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MickyDolenz

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songs that sound similar

all of these:

Four Tops ~ I Can't Help Myself
Otis Redding & Carla Thomas ~ Tramp
Daryl Hall & John Oates ~ I Can't Go For That
Michael Jackson ~ Billie Jean
Lydia Murdock ~ Superstar
Midnight Star ~ Night Rider
Bar-Kays - Dirty Dancer
Billy Ocean ~ Caribbean / European / African Queen
Miki Matsubara ~ Wangan High Way
Madonna ~ Like A Virgin
Robert Palmer ~ Addicted To Love

I've heard people say Billie Jean sounds like Do It Again by Steely Dan, but I don't hear it unless they're talking about one of the percussion instruments on both songs. There was a song from the early 1980s by Sligshot that mixed them together though.

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Reply #1 posted 10/21/20 11:07am

UncleGrandpa

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I remember hearing an interview of Daryl Hall, he said that Billie Jean sounded just like ICGFT. He, John, I'll assume Quincy and company negotiated some percentage of the publishing and each walked away satisfied. I don't know who came first, Otis Redding or Lowell Fulson but Tramp is Tramp. cool

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Reply #2 posted 10/21/20 11:26am

RJOrion

BarKays - "Shine" & EW&F - "On Your Face"

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Reply #3 posted 10/21/20 12:02pm

MickyDolenz

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Dokken ~ Alone Again

Michael Jackson ~ Give In To Me

Marvin Gaye ~ Got To Give It Up
Bunny Sigler ~ Let Me Party With You

The Jacksons ~ Shake Your Body (only the chorus, not the music)


David Bowie ~ Fame
James Brown ~ Hot (I Need To Be Loved, Loved, Loved, Loved)

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #4 posted 10/21/20 12:23pm

RJOrion

Prince - "Lavaux"

and


Pointer Sisters - "Automatic"
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Reply #5 posted 10/21/20 1:05pm

alphastreet

MickyDolenz said:

all of these:

Four Tops ~ I Can't Help Myself
Otis Redding & Carla Thomas ~ Tramp
Daryl Hall & John Oates ~ I Can't Go For That
Michael Jackson ~ Billie Jean
Lydia Murdock ~ Superstar
Midnight Star ~ Night Rider
Bar-Kays - Dirty Dancer
Billy Ocean ~ Caribbean / European / African Queen
Miki Matsubara ~ Wangan High Way
Madonna ~ Like A Virgin
Robert Palmer ~ Addicted To Love

I've heard people say Billie Jean sounds like Do It Again by Steely Dan, but I don't hear it unless they're talking about one of the percussion instruments on both songs. There was a song from the early 1980s by Sligshot that mixed them together though.



I would add Donna summer she works hard for the money cause of the baseline in it

Also the guitar hook in I wear my sunglasses at night in the choruses sounds like beat it and the strings like eurythmics sweet dreams
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Reply #6 posted 10/21/20 8:33pm

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The song Unbreakable feat. Biggie from Invincible sounds like Biggie's own song Unbelievable from Ready to Die .

I don't know, maybe I gotta have my ears checked but Lavaux sounds like Shake your Body slowed down. And something in Life Can Be So Nice also sounds like Shake.

Tears for Fears' Everybody wants to rule the world and The Way You Make Me Feel, which in turn somebody claimed it was a bite of Gavin Christopher's One Step Closer.

The chorus of Prince's We Can Work it Out recalls the breakdown in the Jacksons Show You The Way To Go.
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Reply #7 posted 10/21/20 8:51pm

KoolEaze

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The BarKays Dance, Party, etc. sounds like a shameless rip-off of DMSR.

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6s8D867U1Y

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Reply #8 posted 10/21/20 8:56pm

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The BarKays "Your Place or Mine" has a lot of elements that sound reminiscent of Erotic City.

And yes, their song Dirty Dancer sounds a lot like Billie Jean. They copied so many other songs...how did they get away with it? lol

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Reply #9 posted 10/21/20 11:12pm

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-Spice Of Life - Manhattan Transfer / Baby Be Mine - Michael Jackson (Both Rod Temperton Tracks)

-Maneater - Hall & Oates / Part-Time Lover - Stevie Wonder

I Want A New Drug by Huey Lewis has that "Shake Your Body Down To The Ground" riff throughout it.

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Reply #10 posted 10/22/20 12:27am

SoulAlive

KoolEaze said:

The BarKays "Your Place or Mine" has a lot of elements that sound reminiscent of Erotic City.

And yes, their song Dirty Dancer sounds a lot like Billie Jean. They copied so many other songs...how did they get away with it? lol

and of course,"Freakshow On The Dancefloor" sounds alot like Midnight Star's "No Parking On The Dancefloor smile I love Bar Kays,but yeah,they "borrowed" alot of elements from other tunes.

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Reply #11 posted 10/22/20 12:34am

SoulAlive

KoolEaze said:

The BarKays Dance, Party, etc. sounds like a shameless rip-off of DMSR.

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6s8D867U1Y

nod this is such an obvious rip-off.They even came up with a similiar title for it,lol.

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Reply #12 posted 10/22/20 12:41am

SoulAlive

I also recall Stacy Lattisaw released a single called "Million Dollar Babe" in 1983.It kinda resembles those songs,too.All of these tracks had to have been inspired by 60s Motown/Supremes songs.

Superstition said:

Maneater - Hall & Oates / Part-Time Lover - Stevie Wonder

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Reply #13 posted 10/22/20 12:50am

SoulAlive

MickyDolenz said:


I've heard people say Billie Jean sounds like Do It Again by Steely Dan, but I don't hear it unless they're talking about one of the percussion instruments on both songs. There was a song from the early 1980s by Sligshot that mixed them together though.

nod I remember that mix and I like it alot.The two songs blend perfectly together.

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Reply #14 posted 10/22/20 12:35pm

TrivialPursuit

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KoolEaze said:

The BarKays Dance, Party, etc. sounds like a shameless rip-off of DMSR.

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6s8D867U1Y


OMG why has no one done a mash-up of these yet?! Holy smokes.

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Reply #15 posted 10/22/20 12:37pm

TrivialPursuit

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RJOrion said:

Prince - "Lavaux" and Pointer Sisters - "Automatic"


Lavautomatic. lol

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Reply #16 posted 10/22/20 7:00pm

MickyDolenz

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Most reggaeton songs sound alike to me. It's like the same exact music with different people on each track. I'd say the same thing for Tejano. Tejano songs even end the same, the songs generally don't fade out like other records, they just end.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #17 posted 10/22/20 7:16pm

alphastreet

MickyDolenz said:

Most reggaeton songs sound alike to me. It's like the same exact music with different people on each track. I'd say the same thing for Tejano. Tejano songs even end the same, the songs generally don't fade out like other records, they just end.



I agree many are similar in sound but there are standout tracks in those genres too
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Reply #18 posted 10/23/20 1:29am

wilmer

alphastreet said:

MickyDolenz said:

Most reggaeton songs sound alike to me. It's like the same exact music with different people on each track. I'd say the same thing for Tejano. Tejano songs even end the same, the songs generally don't fade out like other records, they just end.



I agree many are similar in sound but there are standout tracks in those genres too


I don't know how much reggaeton you guys are exposed to, but down here in Havana you hear it blasting from every house. I'm just number to it. People used to complain about rap being monotonous, but reggaeton makes rap sound like classical music. I too agree that there are some catchy songs here and there, but it's like drops of water in an ocean. I guess it sounds better to my ears when it's fused with other genres.
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Reply #19 posted 10/23/20 10:58am

KoolEaze

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MickyDolenz said:

Most reggaeton songs sound alike to me. It's like the same exact music with different people on each track. I'd say the same thing for Tejano. Tejano songs even end the same, the songs generally don't fade out like other records, they just end.

That´s because they all use the same Dem Bow riddim of Shabba Ranks from the early 90s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQqwea8ZSbk

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Reply #20 posted 10/23/20 11:00am

KoolEaze

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wilmer said:

alphastreet said:
I agree many are similar in sound but there are standout tracks in those genres too
I don't know how much reggaeton you guys are exposed to, but down here in Havana you hear it blasting from every house. I'm just number to it. People used to complain about rap being monotonous, but reggaeton makes rap sound like classical music. I too agree that there are some catchy songs here and there, but it's like drops of water in an ocean. I guess it sounds better to my ears when it's fused with other genres.

Yes, it´s quite monotonous compared to other genres. lol

Nice to see someone from Havana post here. I´ve never seen a Cuban on the org before.

I stayed in Havana a decade ago. It was an interesting and unforgettable experience. I miss that time.

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Reply #21 posted 10/23/20 11:53pm

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KoolEaze said:

The BarKays "Your Place or Mine" has a lot of elements that sound reminiscent of Erotic City.


And yes, their song Dirty Dancer sounds a lot like Billie Jean. They copied so many other songs...how did they get away with it? lol



One name Allen Jones as in Barkays producer Allen Jones. His modus operandi was
get his acts to make hits based off the current top 10. In Larry Dodson's book he said it often frustrated the band particularly James Alexander who felt Allen Jones hand was a little too heavy. Larry said the band agreed with James but was too chicken shit to go against Allen. The Barkays had their own sound when you listen to songs like Let's Have Some Fun, Holy Ghost,She Talks To Me With Her Body, Body Fever, Up In Here, etc but Allen for whatever weird reason wanted the band to create songs based off the top 10. If you look at other acts Allen Jones worked with in the 80's like Ebonee Webb had that Prince/Minneapolis flavor due to the lead singer's Prince like falsetto while Kwick(whom members of the Barkays wrote,played,and produced for)and Chocolate Milk had the Barkays sound.
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Reply #22 posted 10/24/20 12:09am

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Fatback Band-I Found Lovin and Ca$hflow-Mine All Mine
Kwick-MTV and Dazz Band -SCL&P(Style,Class,Looks,and Personality)
S.O.S Band-Just The Way You Like It and Sweet Obsession - Gonna Get Over You
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Reply #23 posted 10/24/20 6:47am

KoolEaze

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phunkdaddy said:

Fatback Band-I Found Lovin and Ca$hflow-Mine All Mine Kwick-MTV and Dazz Band -SCL&P(Style,Class,Looks,and Personality) S.O.S Band-Just The Way You Like It and Sweet Obsession - Gonna Get Over You

Thanks for the Allan Jones info. That explains some things. lol

And even though I´m very familiar with the Minneapolis Sound, I had never heard of Obsession and their SOS Band rip-off. It really does sound very similar, and some elements of the song sound like they´ve been lifted straight from Just The Way You Like It and a couple of other SOS songs.

It´s surprising that there are so many copycat songs without lawsuits, and yet there are so many other songs where people sued even though the similarities are vague at best.

The music business is really complicated.

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Reply #24 posted 10/24/20 6:49am

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Prince´s Erotic City sounds a bit like Laid Back´s club hit White Horse.

I wonder how they felt about Erotic City. I´ve read on the org that Prince and Laid Back met and liked each other and I think there was even a WB maxi single (promotional copy ?) with a Prince song on one side and a Laid Back song on the other. Personally, I never liked Laid Back . lol

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Reply #25 posted 10/25/20 2:36am

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KoolEaze said:



phunkdaddy said:


Fatback Band-I Found Lovin and Ca$hflow-Mine All Mine Kwick-MTV and Dazz Band -SCL&P(Style,Class,Looks,and Personality) S.O.S Band-Just The Way You Like It and Sweet Obsession - Gonna Get Over You

Thanks for the Allan Jones info. That explains some things. lol


And even though I´m very familiar with the Minneapolis Sound, I had never heard of Obsession and their SOS Band rip-off. It really does sound very similar, and some elements of the song sound like they´ve been lifted straight from Just The Way You Like It and a couple of other SOS songs.


It´s surprising that there are so many copycat songs without lawsuits, and yet there are so many other songs where people sued even though the similarities are vague at best.


The music business is really complicated.



I didn't even mention Sweet Obsession's Being In Love Ain't Easy which channels Prince The Beautiful Ones and got a lot of airplay peaking at number 10 R&B. Gonna Get Over You peaked at number 8 R&B. They recorded a 2nd album which didn't generate as much success as their first album. The 3 girls in the group were sisters.
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Reply #26 posted 10/25/20 7:20am

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phunkdaddy said:

KoolEaze said:

Thanks for the Allan Jones info. That explains some things. lol

And even though I´m very familiar with the Minneapolis Sound, I had never heard of Obsession and their SOS Band rip-off. It really does sound very similar, and some elements of the song sound like they´ve been lifted straight from Just The Way You Like It and a couple of other SOS songs.

It´s surprising that there are so many copycat songs without lawsuits, and yet there are so many other songs where people sued even though the similarities are vague at best.

The music business is really complicated.

I didn't even mention Sweet Obsession's Being In Love Ain't Easy which channels Prince The Beautiful Ones and got a lot of airplay peaking at number 10 R&B. Gonna Get Over You peaked at number 8 R&B. They recorded a 2nd album which didn't generate as much success as their first album. The 3 girls in the group were sisters.

I just checked it out on Youtube and it really does sound like they´re using an interpolation of The Beautiful Ones.

And in the comments section there are people argueing about the credits, and who wrote the song and who didn´t, and how the people involved in this project stole ideas from another....somebody even chimed in to claim that her uncle wrote the song. Interesting.

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Reply #27 posted 10/25/20 7:30am

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Fatback Band-I Found Lovin and Ca$hflow-Mine All Mine

I wonder what the story is with these two songs."Mine All Mine" is one of my favorite 80s jams.I loved it back in 1986.Then years later,someone told me that it has the music from a previous song: Fatback Band's "I Found Lovin" ( a track from 1983 that I hadn't heard).I was shocked.It's the exact same music and groove! hmmm

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Reply #28 posted 10/26/20 5:06pm

MickyDolenz

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Chuck Berry ~ Sweet Little Sixteen
Beach Boys ~ Surfin' U.S.A.

The Coasters ~ Searchin'
Oak Ridge Boys ~ Elvira

The Rivingtons ~ Papa Oom Mow Mow
The Trashmen ~ Surfin Bird

Bootsy Collins ~ I'd Rather Be With You
Childish Gambino ~ Redbone

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Reply #29 posted 10/26/20 5:39pm

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Jennifer Lopez - Waiting for Tonight
Kylie Minogue - On a Night Like This

Cher - All or Nothing
Tina Turner - When the Heartache Is Over

Brandy - Anybody
Aaliyah - Read Between the Lines

ABBA - Dancing Queen
Shania Twain - C’est La Vie

Mariah Carey - I Don’t Wanna Cry
Lisa Fischer - How Can I Ease the Pain
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