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Reply #60 posted 10/24/20 1:06pm

uPtoWnNY

Margot said:

I would say the general public has become more self-centered and less interested in the

manners that make life more pleasant for all (the community)

People drive more aggressively, yell into cell phones in public,

Speak lazily using profanity, over-consume stuff, let their kids over-run restaurants etc.

It's called a coarsening of values.

Obviously, you've never been to NYC. It's always been like that here.

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Reply #61 posted 10/24/20 1:30pm

purplethunder3
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uPtoWnNY said:

Margot said:

I would say the general public has become more self-centered and less interested in the

manners that make life more pleasant for all (the community)

People drive more aggressively, yell into cell phones in public,

Speak lazily using profanity, over-consume stuff, let their kids over-run restaurants etc.

It's called a coarsening of values.

Obviously, you've never been to NYC. It's always been like that here.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #62 posted 10/26/20 3:33pm

slyjackson

Sorry guys but most of you are just old, and old people love to romanticize the past and make over the top statements about a past that wasn't all that.

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Reply #63 posted 10/26/20 3:47pm

alphastreet

slyjackson said:

Sorry guys but most of you are just old, and old people love to romanticize the past and make over the top statements about a past that wasn't all that.



Would have felt differently years ago, but I know what you mean
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Reply #64 posted 10/26/20 4:22pm

CynicKill

slyjackson said:

Sorry guys but most of you are just old, and old people love to romanticize the past and make over the top statements about a past that wasn't all that.

I'm guilty of all that.

But I ain't never lied about things being more pornographic and in your face, and I think its to our detriment.

Remember the scandal Madonna ( there were many) erupted with the "Open Your Heart" video?

That's kids stuff now.

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Reply #65 posted 10/26/20 5:26pm

TrivialPursuit

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CynicKill said:

Remember the scandal Madonna ( there were many) erupted with the "Open Your Heart" video?

That's kids stuff now.


Shit, forget "Open Your Heart." Remember the conservative bustle around "Papa Don't Preach?" Go back further to "Like A Virgin." People had no idea what to make about that, and "Dress You Up" ended up on Tipper Gore's Filthy Fifteen (along with "Darling Nikki," "Sugar Walls," "She Bop," Mary Jane Girls' "In My House," and Vanity's "Strap On Robbie Baby"). "Papa Don't Preach" and "Open Your Heart" almost paled in comparison to those congressional hearings, etc.

"Old" is relative, and everyone will end up at the same point in their life. They'll look back with hindsight, a bit more wisdom and smarts, and see a bigger balance to things.

Do we romanticize it? Maybe, a bit. But we also knew our harsh realities (AIDS, the fucking racist ass Reagan drug war, etc), just as subsequent genertions would (9/11, real estate crash, etc). I sorta feel like Gen Z is directly reflecting Gen X in their issues. Reagan, now Trump. Racial and female inequalities to the forefront again, etc. Romanticizing things, as long as there is still reality, is fine. It's a coping mechanism. A filter. And we all have a filter through which we view things, whether we say we do or not.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #66 posted 10/26/20 5:43pm

looby

slyjackson said:

Sorry guys but most of you are just old, and old people love to romanticize the past and make over the top statements about a past that wasn't all that.

Don't knock growing old, because it happens to everyone, and it will happen to you too, if you don't die before......tough one to think about, isn't it? biggrin

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Reply #67 posted 10/27/20 6:24am

Tontoman22

There were more than a few songs from certain musical acts that we couldn't listen to with our parents around.

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Reply #68 posted 10/27/20 5:29pm

slyjackson

looby said:

slyjackson said:

Sorry guys but most of you are just old, and old people love to romanticize the past and make over the top statements about a past that wasn't all that.

Don't knock growing old, because it happens to everyone, and it will happen to you too, if you don't die before......tough one to think about, isn't it? biggrin

NO REALLY I said it right here in this thread, that happens from generation to generation.

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Reply #69 posted 10/27/20 5:30pm

slyjackson

CynicKill said:

slyjackson said:

Sorry guys but most of you are just old, and old people love to romanticize the past and make over the top statements about a past that wasn't all that.

I'm guilty of all that.

But I ain't never lied about things being more pornographic and in your face, and I think its to our detriment.

Remember the scandal Madonna ( there were many) erupted with the "Open Your Heart" video?

That's kids stuff now.

And it was kids stuff back then

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Reply #70 posted 10/27/20 6:46pm

looby

slyjackson said:

looby said:

Don't knock growing old, because it happens to everyone, and it will happen to you too, if you don't die before......tough one to think about, isn't it? biggrin

NO REALLY I said it right here in this thread, that happens from generation to generation.

It sure does, because like many, I'm one of those from the generation to generation. biggrin

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Reply #71 posted 10/27/20 7:01pm

Margot

purplethunder3121 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Obviously, you've never been to NYC. It's always been like that here

My mother was from NY-had great manners.

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Reply #72 posted 10/27/20 7:33pm

rednblue

RJOrion said:

wildgoldenhoney said:
Oops lol
im know im silly, but that had me laughing for awhile... because i had never heard of anyone who wants to produce bile and activate enzymes... [Edited 10/24/20 8:49am]


lol

But think of the pickup lines.

I wanna activate your enzymes, baby.

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Reply #73 posted 10/27/20 8:00pm

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rednblue said:

RJOrion said:

wildgoldenhoney said: im know im silly, but that had me laughing for awhile... because i had never heard of anyone who wants to produce bile and activate enzymes... [Edited 10/24/20 8:49am]


lol

But think of the pickup lines.

I wanna activate your enzymes, baby.

razz lol lol lol lol

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #74 posted 10/31/20 6:50pm

Tontoman22

TrivialPursuit said:

CynicKill said:

Remember the scandal Madonna ( there were many) erupted with the "Open Your Heart" video?

That's kids stuff now.


Shit, forget "Open Your Heart." Remember the conservative bustle around "Papa Don't Preach?" Go back further to "Like A Virgin." People had no idea what to make about that, and "Dress You Up" ended up on Tipper Gore's Filthy Fifteen (along with "Darling Nikki," "Sugar Walls," "She Bop," Mary Jane Girls' "In My House," and Vanity's "Strap On Robbie Baby"). "Papa Don't Preach" and "Open Your Heart" almost paled in comparison to those congressional hearings, etc.

"Old" is relative, and everyone will end up at the same point in their life. They'll look back with hindsight, a bit more wisdom and smarts, and see a bigger balance to things.

Do we romanticize it? Maybe, a bit. But we also knew our harsh realities (AIDS, the fucking racist ass Reagan drug war, etc), just as subsequent genertions would (9/11, real estate crash, etc). I sorta feel like Gen Z is directly reflecting Gen X in their issues. Reagan, now Trump. Racial and female inequalities to the forefront again, etc. Romanticizing things, as long as there is still reality, is fine. It's a coping mechanism. A filter. And we all have a filter through which we view things, whether we say we do or not.

I don't remember anything surrounding Open Your Heart, but Like A Prayer... with the video of her making out with black jesus in the altar. She certainly knew how to stir up the Catholics, being raised Catholic.

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Reply #75 posted 10/31/20 11:07pm

TrivialPursuit

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Tontoman22 said:

I don't remember anything surrounding "Open Your Heart," but "Like A Prayer"... with the video of her making out with black Jesus in the altar. She certainly knew how to stir up the Catholics, being raised Catholic.


Yeah, the black saint, plus the burning crosses (which was a huge KKK trope unaware to Madonna apparently because I don't think anyone would play with race to that extent, especially in 1989), and the religious overtones. She was smart though. She was provocative and pushed buttons. It's a bit like what Prince told Arsenio, "you're always trying to see how close to the edge you can get."

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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