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Thread started 05/18/19 5:37pm

ItsLetoyaBaby

Leaving Neverland- People are ignorant

I just watched Leaving Neverland and then read all about the train station mistake and it's obvious Jimmie Safechuck is lying. When was the last time y'all got confused over the date of a train station being built? That's a thing I never forget. I know the date of construction of the train station near where I live, don't we all? And would never get that confused. Michael Jackson had given us many clues regarding his attraction TO WOMEN and I feel he sometimes wanted to hide a date and just acted it out with boys like "I'm not dating anyone" but he obviously was seeing some woman. If people weren't so ignarant the man's name would be cleared. IGNORANT!

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Reply #1 posted 05/18/19 6:31pm

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ItsLetoyaBaby said:

I. Michael Jackson had given us many clues regarding his attraction TO WOMEN

bruh...stop it..Let it go.

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
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Reply #2 posted 05/19/19 9:19am

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Can we rest this case until Tajs docu comes up? So then we can really talk about both sides? Although I honestly must say that we, the fans and none fans will never really know what happened, cause we weren't there. The last months as a MJ Fan have been incredibly exhausting.

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Reply #3 posted 05/19/19 10:02am

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rdhull said:

ItsLetoyaBaby said:

I. Michael Jackson had given us many clues regarding his attraction TO WOMEN

bruh...stop it..Let it go.

That's just ignarant.

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Reply #4 posted 05/19/19 10:23am

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The other thread was locked for a reason.

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Reply #5 posted 05/19/19 3:42pm

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Reply #6 posted 05/19/19 5:38pm

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I believe the OP is being facetious.
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Reply #7 posted 05/19/19 6:49pm

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Yeah that’s ignorant cool
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Reply #8 posted 05/20/19 12:09am

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Why were people so quick to believe Robson and Safechuck and are still standing by them even with the incriminating evidence against their stories that's been coming out since the documentary?

Oh yeah, this is a Prince fansite.
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Reply #9 posted 05/20/19 7:00am

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MotownSubdivision said:

Why were people so quick to believe Robson and Safechuck and are still standing by them even with the incriminating evidence against their stories that's been coming out since the documentary?

Oh yeah, this is a Prince fansite.


You’re damn right it’s a Prince Fansite, but that doesn’t explain why people are quick to believe James and Wade, here are MJ Fans too (including myself). There’s plenty of MJ forums out there...
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Reply #10 posted 05/20/19 8:19am

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ThatWhiteDude said:

MotownSubdivision said:

Why were people so quick to believe Robson and Safechuck and are still standing by them even with the incriminating evidence against their stories that's been coming out since the documentary?

Oh yeah, this is a Prince fansite.


You’re damn right it’s a Prince Fansite, but that doesn’t explain why people are quick to believe James and Wade, here are MJ Fans too (including myself). There’s plenty of MJ forums out there...
I'm not saying that for everyone on here or every Prince fan (which I am one of) but there are some on here that seem to put their distaste for MJ above all else and are hiding behind this whole ordeal as a means of further endorsing that already existing bias. At least they come off that way.

As I said though, more facts are being brought to light on this whole thing. Facts that are proving the details of these accusations false (like the train station not even being under construction at the time Safechuck alleged he and Michael "had sex" yet Dan Reed's response is "That wasn't the only place it happened!") yet people are still insisting that there is absolutely no way that these 3 are lying and at worst, make excuses for such gaping holes in their stories.
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Reply #11 posted 05/20/19 11:45am

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These totally real girlfriends should band together and make a rival documentary about what a kind, thorough, attentive male lover they had in Michael Jackson.

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Reply #12 posted 05/20/19 11:55am

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Michael Jackson was an overrated creep. He made a few good records, but almost entirely thanks to his producers, the Mizell Brothers and Quicy Jones. His own songs were generally whiny, expressing fear/disgust of women, putting himself in the role of some kind of World Savior.

Yes,this is a Prince site. Prince never liked MJ. Prince kept MJ at a distance. Prince was the anti-MJ.

Stop pushing your pedophile apologies on Prince fans.
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Reply #13 posted 05/20/19 12:20pm

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MotownSubdivision said:

ThatWhiteDude said:



You’re damn right it’s a Prince Fansite, but that doesn’t explain why people are quick to believe James and Wade, here are MJ Fans too (including myself). There’s plenty of MJ forums out there...
I'm not saying that for everyone on here or every Prince fan (which I am one of) but there are some on here that seem to put their distaste for MJ above all else and are hiding behind this whole ordeal as a means of further endorsing that already existing bias. At least they come off that way.

As I said though, more facts are being brought to light on this whole thing. Facts that are proving the details of these accusations false (like the train station not even being under construction at the time Safechuck alleged he and Michael "had sex" yet Dan Reed's response is "That wasn't the only place it happened!") yet people are still insisting that there is absolutely no way that these 3 are lying and at worst, make excuses for such gaping holes in their stories.


Again, it’s a Prince site, of course you‘ll meet people who dislike MJ and they have every right to do so. And you‘ll meet people here who believe these allegations and they have the right to do so. But I don’t believe it’s cause they are Prince fans. You could meet those on every other platform for other artists. But you‘d also meet MJ Fans on other platforms. You come off as if you want ro start another war between the two fanbases.
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Reply #14 posted 05/20/19 12:22pm

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Michael Jackson was an overrated creep. He made a few good records, but almost entirely thanks to his producers, the Mizell Brothers and Quicy Jones. His own songs were generally whiny, expressing fear/disgust of women, putting himself in the role of some kind of World Savior.

Yes,this is a Prince site. Prince never liked MJ. Prince kept MJ at a distance. Prince was the anti-MJ.

Stop pushing your pedophile apologies on Prince fans.


You’re wrong on the prince disliked MJ part:lol: people who knew both said they had respect for each other. The rest is your opinion of that matter.
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Reply #15 posted 05/20/19 1:10pm

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This again?! rolleyes

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Reply #16 posted 05/20/19 2:48pm

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kitbradley said:

I believe the OP is being facetious.

SAY THAT TO MY FACE. YOU AIN'T BAD, YOU AIN'T NOTHING mad
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Reply #17 posted 05/20/19 4:07pm

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Somebody go get their auntie (or uncle) lol

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Reply #18 posted 05/20/19 4:17pm

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ItsLetoyaBaby said:

kitbradley said:
I believe the OP is being facetious.
SAY THAT TO MY FACE. YOU AIN'T BAD, YOU AIN'T NOTHING mad

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Reply #19 posted 05/20/19 5:20pm

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Same Old Shit! An ignorant hater brings up Michael in a Prince forum and then he/she whines and bitches about the thread. Some of you are so pathetic. The idiot who started this thread is the main Dude or Dudette who whimpers about discussing Michael; yet, is OBSSESED with him. How old are you little girl/boy? You seem very immature. Focus on YOUR favorite and stop being petty, envious and jealous of Mr. Michael Joseph Jackson.

Btw, only the very IGNORANT are believing the pedophilic fantasies of these two liars and perjurers. There are so many holes in their NAMBLA fantasies that even an imbecile could see through them. The IGNORANT people who believe these perjurers WANT these pedophilic fantasies to be true, because a majority of these haters are turned on by NAMBLA references and the child porn that Dan Reed is promoting in his fraudomentary. The REAL pedophiles are besides themselves with glee, because Reed, Robson and Safechuck have given them a platform to molest children and pretend it’s a “love story” aka NAMBLA. Reed needs to be investigated along with the other two monsters who actually are angry because they were NOT molested. I have said this many times and I will repeat, I truly believe that Robson and Safechuck are pedophiles themselves or have pedophilic tendencies. They, along with Reed, are a danger to society. They are not only a danger to other children, they are a danger to their OWN children. I am not being facetious or being trivial, I 100% believe the three men involved in this child porn/NAMBLA inspired movie are sick and dangerous, and should be arrested. If I even heard that they were in my vicinity, I would call the police.
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Reply #20 posted 05/20/19 5:32pm

Free2BMe

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Michael Jackson was an overrated creep. He made a few good records, but almost entirely thanks to his producers, the Mizell Brothers and Quicy Jones. His own songs were generally whiny, expressing fear/disgust of women, putting himself in the role of some kind of World Savior.

Yes,this is a Prince site. Prince never liked MJ. Prince kept MJ at a distance. Prince was the anti-MJ.

Stop pushing your pedophile apologies on Prince fans.


You sound IGNORANT, weak and jealous, little girl/boy. No one is pushing anything on you and others like you. If you don’t want to hear MJ’s fans call you out, then keep his name out of your jealous, sorry and vindictive mouth. Don’t bring Michael’s name up, if you don’t like him. We don’t bring up Prince’s name in MJ forums, except to show respect. Of course, you and others like you, don’t have any class. You are ignorant and weak-minded. You think tearing down Michael elevates Prince. Little girl or boy, it doesn’t. It only makes people like you look immature and low class.
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Reply #21 posted 05/20/19 7:33pm

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modified said:

Michael Jackson was an overrated creep. He made a few good records, but almost entirely thanks to his producers, the Mizell Brothers and Quicy Jones. His own songs were generally whiny, expressing fear/disgust of women, putting himself in the role of some kind of World Savior.

Yes,this is a Prince site. Prince never liked MJ. Prince kept MJ at a distance. Prince was the anti-MJ.

Stop pushing your pedophile apologies on Prince fans.
Idiot. Thanks for proving my point.

Dislike MJ, fine but stop projecting your confirmed bias into this and using it to push your opinion as fact. You're acting as though you already know the situation even as more info is being brought to light against your very own beliefs that you stubbornly choose to cling too.
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Reply #22 posted 05/20/19 7:35pm

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ThatWhiteDude said:

MotownSubdivision said:

I'm not saying that for everyone on here or every Prince fan (which I am one of) but there are some on here that seem to put their distaste for MJ above all else and are hiding behind this whole ordeal as a means of further endorsing that already existing bias. At least they come off that way.

As I said though, more facts are being brought to light on this whole thing. Facts that are proving the details of these accusations false (like the train station not even being under construction at the time Safechuck alleged he and Michael "had sex" yet Dan Reed's response is "That wasn't the only place it happened!") yet people are still insisting that there is absolutely no way that these 3 are lying and at worst, make excuses for such gaping holes in their stories.


Again, it’s a Prince site, of course you‘ll meet people who dislike MJ and they have every right to do so. And you‘ll meet people here who believe these allegations and they have the right to do so. But I don’t believe it’s cause they are Prince fans. You could meet those on every other platform for other artists. But you‘d also meet MJ Fans on other platforms. You come off as if you want ro start another war between the two fanbases.
You're missing the point.

I'm not trying to start a war here. I'm just stating what I observe. Again, I'm a Prince fan as I am an MJ fan and I'm not saying these P fans have to like MJ but there's a difference between not liking someone and using that dislike to assume the worst for someone. Some of the people on here seem to do the latter and that's all I'm saying.

BTW, I like this forum. It's where I kickstarted my craving for musical knowledge and I like how well-informed many users are on the subject. I've been to a few MJ fansites and they didn't scratch the itch like this one did. It's not about affiliating exclusively with fans of my favorite artists; I wasn't even a Prince fan (i.e. knew next to nothing about him) when I first joined this site; it's about being impartial and being open for interpretation which some fanboys (such as modified, here) are incapable of being.
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Reply #23 posted 05/20/19 7:55pm

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Free2BMe said:

Same Old Shit! An ignorant hater brings up Michael in a Prince forum and then he/she whines and bitches about the thread. Some of you are so pathetic. The idiot who started this thread is the main Dude or Dudette who whimpers about discussing Michael; yet, is OBSSESED with him. How old are you little girl/boy? You seem very immature. Focus on YOUR favorite and stop being petty, envious and jealous of Mr. Michael Joseph Jackson.

Btw, only the very IGNORANT are believing the pedophilic fantasies of these two liars and perjurers. There are so many holes in their NAMBLA fantasies that even an imbecile could see through them. The IGNORANT people who believe these perjurers WANT these pedophilic fantasies to be true, because a majority of these haters are turned on by NAMBLA references and the child porn that Dan Reed is promoting in his fraudomentary. The REAL pedophiles are besides themselves with glee, because Reed, Robson and Safechuck have given them a platform to molest children and pretend it’s a “love story” aka NAMBLA. Reed needs to be investigated along with the other two monsters who actually are angry because they were NOT molested. I have said this many times and I will repeat, I truly believe that Robson and Safechuck are pedophiles themselves or have pedophilic tendencies. They, along with Reed, are a danger to society. They are not only a danger to other children, they are a danger to their OWN children. I am not being facetious or being trivial, I 100% believe the three men involved in this child porn/NAMBLA inspired movie are sick and dangerous, and should be arrested. If I even heard that they were in my vicinity, I would call the police.
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Ugh... you...
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Reply #24 posted 05/20/19 9:40pm

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MotownSubdivision said:

Free2BMe said:

Same Old Shit! An ignorant hater brings up Michael in a Prince forum and then he/she whines and bitches about the thread. Some of you are so pathetic. The idiot who started this thread is the main Dude or Dudette who whimpers about discussing Michael; yet, is OBSSESED with him. How old are you little girl/boy? You seem very immature. Focus on YOUR favorite and stop being petty, envious and jealous of Mr. Michael Joseph Jackson.

Btw, only the very IGNORANT are believing the pedophilic fantasies of these two liars and perjurers. There are so many holes in their NAMBLA fantasies that even an imbecile could see through them. The IGNORANT people who believe these perjurers WANT these pedophilic fantasies to be true, because a majority of these haters are turned on by NAMBLA references and the child porn that Dan Reed is promoting in his fraudomentary. The REAL pedophiles are besides themselves with glee, because Reed, Robson and Safechuck have given them a platform to molest children and pretend it’s a “love story” aka NAMBLA. Reed needs to be investigated along with the other two monsters who actually are angry because they were NOT molested. I have said this many times and I will repeat, I truly believe that Robson and Safechuck are pedophiles themselves or have pedophilic tendencies. They, along with Reed, are a danger to society. They are not only a danger to other children, they are a danger to their OWN children. I am not being facetious or being trivial, I 100% believe the three men involved in this child porn/NAMBLA inspired movie are sick and dangerous, and should be arrested. If I even heard that they were in my vicinity, I would call the police.
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Ugh... you...

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Reply #25 posted 05/21/19 12:02am

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Why aren't the moderators of this Prince forum banning these obnoxious MJ devotees/pedophile apologists?

Why aren't these Neverland posts locked and deleted? They are spam. They have nothing to do with Prince or music in general.
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Reply #26 posted 05/21/19 2:05am

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modified said:

Why aren't the moderators of this Prince forum banning these obnoxious MJ devotees/pedophile apologists?

Why aren't these Neverland posts locked and deleted? They are spam. They have nothing to do with Prince or music in general.
Yes, anybody who isn't blindly believing someone's word at face value like you and dares to question these accusations in any way must be a pedophile apologist. People who think like you are part of the problem.

Also, maybe because this is the NON-Prince section, genius. Ever thought of that?
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Reply #27 posted 05/21/19 3:46am

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Why aren't the moderators of this Prince forum banning these obnoxious MJ devotees/pedophile apologists?

Why aren't these Neverland posts locked and deleted? They are spam. They have nothing to do with Prince or music in general.


Maybe you need to tell that to the Prince fan who started this thread. Oops, I guess you conveniently overlooked that. wink
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Reply #28 posted 05/21/19 4:20am

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MotownSubdivision said:

ThatWhiteDude said:
Again, it’s a Prince site, of course you‘ll meet people who dislike MJ and they have every right to do so. And you‘ll meet people here who believe these allegations and they have the right to do so. But I don’t believe it’s cause they are Prince fans. You could meet those on every other platform for other artists. But you‘d also meet MJ Fans on other platforms. You come off as if you want ro start another war between the two fanbases.
but there's a difference between not liking someone and using that dislike to assume the worst for someone.

This sentence right here is what I was talking about. You're making assumptions about these particular Prince Fans as well, don't you see it? Maybe they just believe Wade and James cause they just believe them, ever thought of that? That's what I meant.

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Reply #29 posted 05/21/19 4:28am

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Free2BMe said:

Maybe you need to tell that to the Prince fan who started this thread. Oops, I guess you conveniently overlooked that. wink

A Prince fan named 'ItsLetoyaBaby'? Or 'MotownSubdivision'?
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