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Reply #120 posted 04/21/19 9:04am

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PeteSilas said:

Also, Michael was criticized for touring with the bros when everyone knew he was the star and no one wanted to see the others

He could have done both. Phil Collins had really successful solo albums and still continued to participate in Genesis. Phil was also in the band Brand X. Phil did songs on soundtracks and duets (Separate Lives, Easy Lover). Phil played drums on other acts records (Robert Plant, Peter Gabriel, Howard Jones, Philip Bailey). Mike Rutherford from Genesis did Mike + The Mechanics. Tony Banks released solo albums too, but his were not really commercially successful. Lionel Richie has said that he did not want to leave the Commodores, just do solo albums on the side.

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #121 posted 04/21/19 5:07pm

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The Motown 60 special is on now on CBS. Stevie just performed Sir Duke. Now Smokey Robinson is talking and Berry Gordy is sitting behind him. I guess Cedric The Entertainer is doing the Richard Pryor part from Motown 25. razz

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Reply #122 posted 04/21/19 5:20pm

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MickyDolenz said:

The Motown 60 special is on now on CBS. Stevie just performed Sir Duke. Now Smokey Robinson is talking and Berry Gordy is sitting behind him. I guess Cedric The Entertainer is doing the Richard Pryor part from Motown 25. razz



I met Cedric when I worked on a movie set.
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Reply #123 posted 04/21/19 6:30pm

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Stevie & Smokey are performing just about the entire show. I guess Diana Ross is going to do Reach Out And Touch at the end of the program like she always does. lol Thelma Houston did Don't Leave Me This Way. Everybody else is mainly modern acts like Jennifer Lopez, John Legend, Ciara, Ne-Yo, etc.

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #124 posted 04/21/19 6:58pm

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MickyDolenz said:

Stevie & Smokey are performing just about the entire show. I guess Diana Ross is going to do Reach Out And Touch at the end of the program like she always does. lol Thelma Houston did Don't Leave Me This Way. Everybody else is mainly modern acts like Jennifer Lopez, John Legend, Ciara, Ne-Yo, etc.

Diana sung a tribute to Berry & a little medley.

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
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Reply #125 posted 04/22/19 9:12am

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

Diana sung a tribute to Berry & a little medley.

I wasn't expecting the Billie Holiday songs.

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #126 posted 04/22/19 9:15am

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Mikado said:

SoulAlive said:

when do you think that Prince should have stopped? hmmm

It feels weird to delineate a specific album, but, gun to my head, probably The Gold Experience.

Warner Bros agrees lol

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Reply #127 posted 04/22/19 9:22am

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MickyDolenz said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Diana sung a tribute to Berry & a little medley.

I wasn't expecting the Billie Holiday songs.

Diana made sure EVERYONE knew SHE was the QUEEN of Motown.

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
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Reply #128 posted 04/22/19 10:39am

Mikado

Cinny said:

Mikado said:

SoulAlive said: It feels weird to delineate a specific album, but, gun to my head, probably The Gold Experience.

Warner Bros agrees lol


Great minds think alike? eek

A certain kind of mellow.
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Reply #129 posted 04/22/19 12:40pm

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MickyDolenz said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Diana sung a tribute to Berry & a little medley.

I wasn't expecting the Billie Holiday songs.

i love the crackhead/strungout scene in lady sings the blues, she never looked more normal.

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Reply #130 posted 04/22/19 3:03pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

Diana made sure EVERYONE knew SHE was the QUEEN of Motown.

Well sure she was since she was sleeping with the boss & the vice-president. lol She took the Dorothy part from Stephanie Mills, who was supposed to do The Wiz movie. Stephanie was around the right age, Miss Ross wasn't. Plus Stephanie originated the part on Broadway.

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Reply #131 posted 04/22/19 4:25pm

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MickyDolenz said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Diana made sure EVERYONE knew SHE was the QUEEN of Motown.

Well sure she was since she was sleeping with the boss & the vice-president. lol She took the Dorothy part from Stephanie Mills, who was supposed to do The Wiz movie. Stephanie was around the right age, Miss Ross wasn't. Plus Stephanie originated the part on Broadway.

Yes ! Diana was the reason that movie flopped. I can't even imagine MJ & Stephanie Mills on one song. They would have hit that right out of the ballpark! Plus they were friends also.

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
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Reply #132 posted 04/22/19 4:45pm

PeteSilas

Diana looked ridiculous trying to portray innocence. She was pure as new York slush.
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Reply #133 posted 04/22/19 5:09pm

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Yes ! Diana was the reason that movie flopped. I can't even imagine MJ & Stephanie Mills on one song. They would have hit that right out of the ballpark! Plus they were friends also.

I'm not sure that was the reason. It was an expenisve disco movie musical. I read that at the time The Wiz was one of the most expensive movies ever made in Hollywood period. I don't think Zanadu, Thank God It's Friday, Sgt. Pepper, Can't Stop The Music, or that movie with Earth Wind & Fire did well either. And Sgt. Pepper had the Bee Gees & Peter Frampton who were huge sellers at the time. I think Rocky Horror Picture Show was a flop too, but became a cult hit in the 1980s with the goth crowd. They resurrected it. I think musicals were just out of style by that point with the general movie public. The exception was Grease, but that wasn't really disco related though. It fit in with the popularity of the retro Happy Days, Laverne & Shirley, Sha Na Na, & Blues Brothers. I don't know if the Tommy movie was a hit or not. With The Wiz, I think the only person from the play was Ted Ross the lion. I've heard the Broadway album, and I do like Nipsey Russell better than the stage play singer.

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #134 posted 04/22/19 6:04pm

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MickyDolenz said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Yes ! Diana was the reason that movie flopped. I can't even imagine MJ & Stephanie Mills on one song. They would have hit that right out of the ballpark! Plus they were friends also.

I'm not sure that was the reason. It was an expenisve disco movie musical. I read that at the time The Wiz was one of the most expensive movies ever made in Hollywood period. I don't think Zanadu, Thank God It's Friday, Sgt. Pepper, Can't Stop The Music, or that movie with Earth Wind & Fire did well either. And Sgt. Pepper had the Bee Gees & Peter Frampton who were huge sellers at the time. I think Rocky Horror Picture Show was a flop too, but became a cult hit in the 1980s with the goth crowd. They resurrected it. I think musicals were just out of style by that point with the general movie public. The exception was Grease, but that wasn't really disco related though. It fit in with the popularity of the retro Happy Days, Laverne & Shirley, Sha Na Na, & Blues Brothers. I don't know if the Tommy movie was a hit or not. With The Wiz, I think the only person from the play was Ted Ross the lion. I've heard the Broadway album, and I do like Nipsey Russell better than the stage play singer.

i remember the scandalous gossip about it back then and Diana was a COMPLETE laughing stalk of the industry insisitng on this role as Dorothy. But I was right there at the screening of 'The Wiz' and was COMPLETELY mesmerized by this motion picture. The music orchestrated by Quincy Jones was AMAZING! MJ was INCREDIBLE!

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
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Reply #135 posted 04/23/19 3:30pm

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Diana looked ridiculous trying to portray innocence. She was pure as new York slush.

I was gonna post a picture of a Gremlin from GREMLINS 2... but I'll get accused of being racist (though I'm not) and ..well, it might confuse others, generating compliments... OH MY, SHE LOOKS SO RADIANT!

♫"Trollin, Trolling! We could have fun just trollin'!"♫
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Reply #136 posted 04/24/19 11:54pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

But I was right there at the screening of 'The Wiz' and was COMPLETELY mesmerized by this motion picture. The music orchestrated by Quincy Jones was AMAZING! MJ was INCREDIBLE!

What about the newer version that was on NBC a couple of years ago. It had Mary J. Blige & Queen Latifah in it.

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #137 posted 04/25/19 6:14am

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MickyDolenz said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

But I was right there at the screening of 'The Wiz' and was COMPLETELY mesmerized by this motion picture. The music orchestrated by Quincy Jones was AMAZING! MJ was INCREDIBLE!

What about the newer version that was on NBC a couple of years ago. It had Mary J. Blige & Queen Latifah in it.

It was good. Especially Ne-yo's performance as the Tin man. But something was off about it. It didn't have that magic.

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
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Reply #138 posted 05/02/19 6:10pm

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On this note, have any of you heard Stevie’s demo of “Crying Through The Night”? It sounds so funky and like a Donny Hathaway song. I can’t believe it’s been since 2005 since we had a proper Stevie album. Dig this, I was 17 when I got into old-school and MJ in particular. Invincible was out. Never got a new MJ album. Got into Stevie after A Time To Love was released. Lots of concerts, no album though. I did get Prince albums and saw a concert, but still had 5 years before he passed. Still disappointed. I am a John Legend fan, maybe I need to dig my feet further into that.
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Reply #139 posted 05/10/19 6:07am

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I would love if he released a new album, but, if not, I'm fine with his catalog
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Reply #140 posted 05/17/19 6:21pm

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For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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