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Reply #30 posted 01/30/17 8:34am

RJOrion

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CONFUNKSHUN... was one of the baddest R&B group of the 70' & 80's.


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yeah they were...once they got past trying to be Earth Wind & Fire Jr..."Secrets" is a great lp but sounds like it was produced by Maurice White and Al McKay... they copied EWF like Ready For The World copied Prince/The Time...
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Reply #31 posted 01/30/17 12:42pm

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Sun had a SLAMMIN' horn section and their last three albums have YET 2b remastered/reissued on CD! I've always LOVED their 1982 single, "Slamm Dunk The Ffunk!!! from "Let There Be Sun." smile

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Reply #32 posted 01/31/17 4:42am

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Check the stage photo back of Bar-Kays Too Hot to Stop album, looks like they had a wicked show back then - but how can we see it? I know they were in Wattstax, but not in their mid to late 1970s funk prime, which again is as the Red Hot Chili Peppers would say, a funky crime!

If you've got funk, you've got style.
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Reply #33 posted 01/31/17 12:39pm

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The Music business SUCKS!!!!

and it always has...

why pay musicians and pay for studio time, instruments, living expenses ect.. -

when you can get ANY FOOL with a computer

to sample some REAL music to fool a generation of FOOLS that wouldn't know any better?

confused

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Reply #34 posted 01/31/17 6:46pm

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I was planning on writing on this exact same same topic one day but I keep putting it off.

I cant believe that there is no videos of the Ohio players in their prime or any of the other groups from the 70's. It is crazy. It's not like there were no video recorders during this time. I would have loved to see some of the "in studio video". Where is any video of a Switch concert Barkays, Cameo etc.

I have to believe that some family members some where must have rare video footage.

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Reply #35 posted 01/31/17 7:01pm

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Check out Reelin.In The Years website
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Reply #36 posted 02/05/17 7:57am

NorthC

Why limit ourselves to overlooked black funk acts? One white English woman who perfectly fits this description and could funk with the best of them, is Ruth Copeland. She made some great music with Funkadelic in the early 70s, but unfortunately was forgotten later on.
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Reply #37 posted 02/05/17 10:32am

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They are doing much better than most white groups from the same time. Where is Bread and Starbuck?

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #38 posted 02/06/17 12:15pm

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SoulAlive said:

I have always wondered why there isn't any footage of the Isley Brothers' concerts in the 70s.I would love to see that.

In many respects if we'd had the tech we had know - the last decade and half - we probably would have seen more

Soul / Funk/ RB/ Rock band footage. At that sadly a lot of bands/ singers didn't do what the Eagles did.... hire someone to record them pretty much all the time.

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Reply #39 posted 02/06/17 1:18pm

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Seems like this stuff was only filmed if it was part of a television special or variety show. I suppose the home video market didn't really blow until the eighties.

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Reply #40 posted 02/07/17 12:56am

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New Birth!!!!!

OG Slave!!!!!

Kleeer!!!!!

Fatback!!!!!

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Reply #41 posted 02/07/17 7:06am

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New Birth!!!!!

OG Slave!!!!!

Kleeer!!!!!

Fatback!!!!!


They were killer.

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Reply #42 posted 02/07/17 12:43pm

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How about some OG funk bands like Charles Wright 103 Street Watts Band or Dyke and the Blazers.
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Reply #43 posted 02/07/17 5:11pm

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woogiebear said:

New Birth!!!!!

OG Slave!!!!!

Kleeer!!!!!

Fatback!!!!!

LOVE ME some Fatback! I got their last 10 CD's from 1980 to the end. Amazing FUNK; especially the "Tasty Jam" CD from '81! My #1! smile

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Reply #44 posted 02/07/17 6:04pm

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How about some OG funk bands like Charles Wright 103 Street Watts Band or Dyke and the Blazers.

a young AL McKay played some killer guitar in both those bands b4 joining Earth Wind & Fire... im heavily into both those bands catalogs..

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Reply #45 posted 02/07/17 9:01pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

They are doing much better than most white groups from the same time. Where is Bread and Starbuck?

Rare Earth

Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #46 posted 02/07/17 9:05pm

SoulAlive

Pleasure is an amazing band.Their 1979 hit "Glide" is s classic among funk fans.The Blackbyrds is another band who truly delivered the funk back then.
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Reply #47 posted 02/08/17 8:28pm

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Back in the late 70's early to mid 80's I would see pictures of some of these artist on stage . I asumed there was actually film/footage. I would love to hear some of these guys perform live.
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Reply #48 posted 02/08/17 8:37pm

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whitechocolatebrotha said:

Sun had a SLAMMIN' horn section and their last three albums have YET 2b remastered/reissued on CD! I've always LOVED their 1982 single, "Slamm Dunk The Ffunk!!! from "Let There Be Sun." smile

Sun was tight as hell. I liked the original lineup a little better with Chris Jones on lead vocals

than the new lineup that started with the Sunburn album although Sunburn and Sunpower

are equally great albums. Byron Byrd held it down. Part of the original lineup later formed Dayton.

I like Dream On and Wanna Make Love from their debut album.

Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #49 posted 02/10/17 8:54pm

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Good lord a gang of funk out there from back then. All kinds of mugs comes to mind. I like to dig into some of that "Deep Funk" genre. Some gut bucket stuff in there.

As for MF, George Clinton personally told Bootsy Collins he wanted him to pattern his persona and stage presence directly from their bassist, Wyzard. And if my memory serves correct, it was MF who first posed the question on wax, something to the tune of Niggizz Can't Sing Rock or somn.
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Reply #50 posted 02/11/17 7:09am

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^ Yep. Niggiz Can't Sang Rock & Roll. It's on their self-titled "debut" LP from 1976.
(I put debut between " " because they also released a self-titled LP in 1972, but were unhappy with it and later made a new album with a different track list.) Fire- Give You All the Love- Niggiz Can't... Those three in a row are fantastic! headbang
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Reply #51 posted 02/12/17 4:35pm

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Im thinking no one was paying to watch or record them enough. Even Temptations and jackson 5 regular shows were not taped until they were getting older.

Unless they were some really popular stadium rock band like Pink Floyd, Eagles, or Led Zeppelin that made a lot of money, I would guess many of these acts didn't have enough money to hire a film crew to lug around. Many of them didn't sell a lot of albums unless they managed to crossover to pop Top 40 like Earth Wind & Fire, Kool & The Gang (JT era), or Commodores. A few like War & Ohio Players got some rock station airplay. So the labels weren't likely to pay for a film crew. I don't think there was that much of an audience for filmed concerts in general in the 1960s & 1970s ( live albums were kinda popular though). Few, if any were shown on TV. There were variety show specials filmed for the 3 TV networks (ig. Chicago, Natalie Cole, Carpenters, Temptations & Supremes, Jackson 5, Osmonds, etc). Those usually had comedy skits and not just music only. The networks were known to tape over music programs to save money, especially pre-1970s. They didn't think the shows had any rerun value. A lot of American Bandstand episodes were lost in this way. There were some R&B concerts with multiple acts that were filmed like Wattstax, Save The Children, Soul To Soul, Harlem Cultural Festival, Rumble In The Jungle, etc. In the case of Wattstax, only a small portion of the concert that was filmed made it to the movie and it had some portions that were people in the neighborhood & Richard Pryor talking about different things.

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #52 posted 02/12/17 7:47pm

mrwiggles

A group that got plenty accolades but surprisingly hardly comes up in a funk discussion is The Commodores. One listen to a track like Fancy Dancer and you are forced to say well these boys not only could funk with the best of em but rightly could be placed near the top of the list.
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Reply #53 posted 02/12/17 11:29pm

Comser

Skyy came out at the end of the 70s

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Reply #54 posted 02/13/17 10:47am

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mrwiggles said:

A group that got plenty accolades but surprisingly hardly comes up in a funk discussion is The Commodores. One listen to a track like Fancy Dancer and you are forced to say well these boys not only could funk with the best of em but rightly could be placed near the top of the list.

Too much ballads in their later years is what keeps them away from top Funk outfits.
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Reply #55 posted 02/13/17 11:41am

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I'd love to see a Family Stand live concert in full.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #56 posted 02/13/17 3:47pm

NorthC

The Family Stand were great... Such a shame I never saw them live...
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Reply #57 posted 02/13/17 5:31pm

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mrwiggles said:

A group that got plenty accolades but surprisingly hardly comes up in a funk discussion is The Commodores. One listen to a track like Fancy Dancer and you are forced to say well these boys not only could funk with the best of em but rightly could be placed near the top of the list.

Fancy Dancer indeed great. Ever heard Gimme My Mule?

If you've got funk, you've got style.
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Reply #58 posted 02/15/17 11:18pm

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Im thinking no one was paying to watch or record them enough. Even Temptations and jackson 5 regular shows were not taped until they were getting older. My mom said they went to her school in the Bronx. of course...no footage of that as big as they were. That's with many back in the day though. if you were not on some documentary segment or TV show may have been out of luck unless the management bought taping footage to bring at the concert.

Same here-the OP's expecting way too much.

Another reason is that most of the artists the OP likes that they mentioned didn't appear on something like Soul Train or any local variety TV show in the USA.

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Reply #59 posted 02/16/17 3:58am

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

mrwiggles said:

A group that got plenty accolades but surprisingly hardly comes up in a funk discussion is The Commodores. One listen to a track like Fancy Dancer and you are forced to say well these boys not only could funk with the best of em but rightly could be placed near the top of the list.

Too much ballads in their later years is what keeps them away from top Funk outfits.


There it is!
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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