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Reply #60 posted 08/06/20 3:45pm

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Would get rid of the "stoner" character voice in "Now".

"Light another one, dude" NO.

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Reply #61 posted 08/06/20 10:52pm

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Segues removed.

99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment
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Reply #62 posted 08/07/20 3:04am

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All that's required is the replacement of 'We March' with 'Days of Wild'. 'We March' was a late addition to the album anyway and likely would not have been included if the album had been released earlier as Prince intended.

Prince's decision to drop 'Days of Wild' from the set so close to release is a mystery to me. I remember at least one UK review that mentioned the track,so it was definitely on some promo copies. I wonder if Prince had other plans for the track that simply didn't materialise? A shame, as 'Days of Wild' defined that entire era for me and was very much its anthem live.
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Reply #63 posted 08/07/20 3:10am

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OperatingThetan said:

All that's required is the replacement of 'We March' with 'Days of Wild'. 'We March' was a late addition to the album anyway and likely would not have been included if the album had been released earlier as Prince intended. Prince's decision to drop 'Days of Wild' from the set so close to release is a mystery to me. I remember at least one UK review that mentioned the track,so it was definitely on some promo copies. I wonder if Prince had other plans for the track that simply didn't materialise? A shame, as 'Days of Wild' defined that entire era for me and was very much its anthem live.

Which version of Days of Wild did he have on there, do we know?

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Reply #64 posted 08/07/20 7:55am

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herb4 said:

Se7en said:

Add back in:


Interactive
Days Of Wild
Ripopgodazippa
Acknowledge Me

Add the missing NPG Operator segues. Lose the Endorphinemachine cowbell.

Maybe remove We March. I don't dislike it as much as most people do.

Pretty sure I'm over 80 mins eek


Same. I don't get the hate for We March either. It's a weaker track but only in context of what surrounds it. Conversely, I don't get the total love for Dolphin. It's OK but, man, them lyrics are corny. I poked over to Wikipedia just to refrresh myself on the track list and...man...it's a really strong record.

I think the title track is one of his more underrated in that category too. He was obviously aiming at an anthem (again) and, while "Gold" falls a little short, it's a pretty great track. I used to LOVE P Control in my 20's but now not so much. It's a weird lead off track too since it doesn't really set the tone for the rest of the album. Interactive would be a better opening song (you're rigth) and, the older I get, P Control feels more like a b-side, tbh.

Burying Days of Wild is a crime though. And fuck the haters because "NOW" is a banger.

And, wait...you're saying to ADD segues? Hard and strong disagree on all that. Prince fucked up more albums with that goofy shit than I'd care to remember (Love Symbol, The Rainbow Children, Exodus and Gold). They're funny and cute the first time (sometimes) but really mess up the flow on repeated listens and lord if I don't have a custom CD that removes that crap from all those albums.


Odd to think too that on his Big Serious Artistic Statement, Lovesexy, he made it all one track but at the same time included zero seques.

TGE probably holds up the best from every album in his 90's catalog and makes a strong argument for the top five.


Yeah I'm in the minority about the segues. I just happen to like them, even on some songs where they imply a user-error or "glitch". Goes with the whole "Interactive" theme. Maybe not on every song, but maybe add 1-2 in the album.

I do not care for the Love Symbol album segues. Yes, it's a concept album, but that album feels like there are 2 concepts going on.

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Reply #65 posted 08/07/20 8:08am

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jaawwnn said:



OperatingThetan said:


All that's required is the replacement of 'We March' with 'Days of Wild'. 'We March' was a late addition to the album anyway and likely would not have been included if the album had been released earlier as Prince intended. Prince's decision to drop 'Days of Wild' from the set so close to release is a mystery to me. I remember at least one UK review that mentioned the track,so it was definitely on some promo copies. I wonder if Prince had other plans for the track that simply didn't materialise? A shame, as 'Days of Wild' defined that entire era for me and was very much its anthem live.

Which version of Days of Wild did he have on there, do we know?



The shorter studio version apparently.
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If that was on there and maybe an edit of Acknowledge Me, minus the rap mentioning time of the month and titties swinging like a door as broadcast in TBE movie, it would be sheer perfection
[Edited 8/7/20 8:10am]
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Reply #66 posted 08/07/20 10:14am

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SoulAlive said:

Seems that most of us really like "Days Of Wild" and would have loved for that song to be on the album music headbang

Yeah, I don't think loving "Days of Wild" is a controversial opinion and most people around here would put amongst his funkiest tracks I believe.

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Reply #67 posted 08/07/20 10:31am

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Ditch Kirstie Alley. Replace Dolphin & Gold with some more convincing arena rock. Full version of Eye Hate U. Open the album with Days of Wild

[Edited 8/9/20 10:37am]

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Reply #68 posted 08/07/20 1:09pm

SoulAlive

that's the Love Symbol album,where Kirstie Allie appears biggrin

MendesCity said:

Ditch Kirstie Alley.

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Reply #69 posted 08/07/20 1:24pm

jmfd

Lower the volume level on the cowbell in Endorfinmachnie by a lot.

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Reply #70 posted 08/07/20 3:06pm

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jmfd said:

Lower the volume level on the cowbell in Endorfinmachnie by a lot.

Or remix it with only the cowbell and his vocal.

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Reply #71 posted 08/07/20 3:19pm

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jaawwnn said:

Listen to his released albums in order and the opening one two punch of P Control and Endorphinmachine are a welcome jolt of energy (and i say that as someone who thinks Come is a better record), but man, it's just overproduced to hell. Pretty much every song on it I prefer every alternate version I've heard. I look at the tracklist and it's such a strong record but i can't bring myself to put it on. There's no space in it, everything is revved up to a million.


I can agree with this but will say it's one of the things I actully like about the album. I think the production is quite good and adds another layer to the sound but I get where you're coming from.

I usually dig when Prince goes full on mad scientist mode and shows off but get why one's mileage might vary in that regard.

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Reply #72 posted 08/07/20 4:19pm

alphastreet

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I don't understand why some people on this site are always wanting to change Prince's albums. Leave his shit alone! The albums are how he wanted them to be.


Agree with this, it’s a decent album as it is
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Reply #73 posted 08/07/20 4:24pm

SoulAlive

OperatingThetan said:

All that's required is the replacement of 'We March' with 'Days of Wild'. 'We March' was a late addition to the album anyway and likely would not have been included if the album had been released earlier as Prince intended.

Prince's decision to drop 'Days of Wild' from the set so close to release is a mystery to me. I remember at least one UK review that mentioned the track,so it was definitely on some promo copies. I wonder if Prince had other plans for the track that simply didn't materialise? A shame, as 'Days of Wild' defined that entire era for me and was very much its anthem live.


Yeah,I was disappointed when I saw the final tracklist.I had been enjoying “Days Of Wild” for many months.It was on a bootleg cassette that I obtained in ‘94.It’s such a great song.I think even the hip-hop fans would have been bobbing their heads to this jam.
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Reply #74 posted 08/09/20 10:36am

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SoulAlive said:

that's the Love Symbol album,where Kirstie Allie appears biggrin

MendesCity said:

Ditch Kirstie Alley.

Whoops, ha! Well she and the computer lady can take a long trip together somewhere.

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Reply #75 posted 08/09/20 11:41am

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herb4 said:

jaawwnn said:

Listen to his released albums in order and the opening one two punch of P Control and Endorphinmachine are a welcome jolt of energy (and i say that as someone who thinks Come is a better record), but man, it's just overproduced to hell. Pretty much every song on it I prefer every alternate version I've heard. I look at the tracklist and it's such a strong record but i can't bring myself to put it on. There's no space in it, everything is revved up to a million.


I can agree with this but will say it's one of the things I actully like about the album. I think the production is quite good and adds another layer to the sound but I get where you're coming from.

I usually dig when Prince goes full on mad scientist mode and shows off but get why one's mileage might vary in that regard.

Yeah, I mean, it represents what he was feeling at the time and ultimately that's what matters. I'd like more alternate versions to be officially released but it's a cohesive album as it stands.

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Reply #76 posted 08/09/20 12:18pm

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herb4 said:

Add Days of Wild, one of his best songs, and get rid of the seques.


Also, why is "Now" a "guilty pleasure"? That song fucking bangs.

[Edited 8/1/20 11:53am]

I love the song because it has one of his most menacing screams

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Reply #77 posted 08/12/20 5:30am

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Se7en said:

herb4 said:


Same. I don't get the hate for We March either. It's a weaker track but only in context of what surrounds it. Conversely, I don't get the total love for Dolphin. It's OK but, man, them lyrics are corny. I poked over to Wikipedia just to refrresh myself on the track list and...man...it's a really strong record.

I think the title track is one of his more underrated in that category too. He was obviously aiming at an anthem (again) and, while "Gold" falls a little short, it's a pretty great track. I used to LOVE P Control in my 20's but now not so much. It's a weird lead off track too since it doesn't really set the tone for the rest of the album. Interactive would be a better opening song (you're rigth) and, the older I get, P Control feels more like a b-side, tbh.

Burying Days of Wild is a crime though. And fuck the haters because "NOW" is a banger.

And, wait...you're saying to ADD segues? Hard and strong disagree on all that. Prince fucked up more albums with that goofy shit than I'd care to remember (Love Symbol, The Rainbow Children, Exodus and Gold). They're funny and cute the first time (sometimes) but really mess up the flow on repeated listens and lord if I don't have a custom CD that removes that crap from all those albums.


Odd to think too that on his Big Serious Artistic Statement, Lovesexy, he made it all one track but at the same time included zero seques.

TGE probably holds up the best from every album in his 90's catalog and makes a strong argument for the top five.


Yeah I'm in the minority about the segues. I just happen to like them, even on some songs where they imply a user-error or "glitch". Goes with the whole "Interactive" theme. Maybe not on every song, but maybe add 1-2 in the album.

I do not care for the Love Symbol album segues. Yes, it's a concept album, but that album feels like there are 2 concepts going on.

I recall a review saying that the segues would make the album date badly. I still love them.

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Reply #78 posted 08/12/20 5:52am

Milty2

I wouldn't change it at all except for maybe the cover art. If I had one gripe about Prince's physical releases, it would be the art work in some cases. This cover art here makes it difficult to look at the images.

Otherwise, it's a great album. Top 5 for me.

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Reply #79 posted 08/12/20 11:25pm

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Get rid of Mayte!

"Badder than a wicked witch-a"
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Reply #80 posted 08/13/20 1:25pm

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hhhhdmt said:

What songs would you keep? Which ones would you remove? What else would you add from that era?



Personally i would add "Interactive" as a nice rocker instead of P Control. I would open with the brilliance of Endorphinmachine (without cowbells)



Keep: 319, Shy, TMBGITW, Gold, Dolphin



Add: Interactive, Love Sign The Ride



Remove: P Control, Now (even though its a guilty pleasure)



For me the whole period is a mess. We don’t even get the single version of tmbgitw. If it was possible to delete the whole album I’d be tempted.
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Reply #81 posted 08/13/20 2:32pm

Doalwa

MOAR COWBELL lol
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Reply #82 posted 08/14/20 9:46am

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PurplePerson said:

Get rid of Mayte!


And where is she on the record so prominently that you're triggered by her?

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #83 posted 08/14/20 1:30pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

PurplePerson said:

Get rid of Mayte!


And where is she on the record so prominently that you're triggered by her?


I was wondering the same thing.

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Reply #84 posted 08/14/20 3:05pm

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CAL3 said:

Great topic. . De-clutter the production, less aggressive mastering. . And entirely lose any “interactive” seques. . That would be a great start. .

Agreed!

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time!
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Reply #85 posted 08/14/20 4:11pm

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herb4 said:

TrivialPursuit said:


And where is she on the record so prominently that you're triggered by her?


I was wondering the same thing.


I mean, she speaks some Spanish at the end of "Endorphinmacine" into "We March," but that's it, really.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #86 posted 08/15/20 12:07am

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TrivialPursuit said:



herb4 said:




TrivialPursuit said:




And where is she on the record so prominently that you're triggered by her?




I was wondering the same thing.




I mean, she speaks some Spanish at the end of "Endorphinmacine" into "We March," but that's it, really.



At a guess he/she thinks Mayte is the NPG operator
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Reply #87 posted 08/16/20 10:35am

TheKid94

Put that long version of Billy Jack Bitch on there!

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Reply #88 posted 08/16/20 2:33pm

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luv4u said:

Would not change it

Agree with this...love it just the way it is because it came from his brain to make it that way...

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Reply #89 posted 08/16/20 8:07pm

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Yeah... the Love Symbol album and this one are two LPs that could have been really great, but got kind of butchered by Prince's pretensions and (in the latter case) battles with Warners.

As ever with Prince, there was enough first-rate material for a great album in 1994, but The Gold Experience is not a great album -- it's just a 'good' album, with some bad moments mixed in with several great ones. The "NPG Operator" segues are annoying and were never going to age well. I don't think the album starts well, as "Pussy Control" is funny but too silly for an artist at age 36 or whatever, and I have never been able to get into "Endorphinmachine" (Prince seemed to love this song and played it all the time - however, it annoys me when it's on and I have to switch it off).

The album improves from there, and the last three songs are the best three.

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