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Thread started 08/01/20 10:48am

hhhhdmt

How would you change The Gold Experience?

What songs would you keep? Which ones would you remove? What else would you add from that era?

Personally i would add "Interactive" as a nice rocker instead of P Control. I would open with the brilliance of Endorphinmachine (without cowbells)

Keep: 319, Shy, TMBGITW, Gold, Dolphin

Add: Interactive, Love Sign The Ride

Remove: P Control, Now (even though its a guilty pleasure)

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Reply #1 posted 08/01/20 10:58am

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P said in the liner notes of Crystal Ball that Interactive and Endorphinmachine didn't work back to back and he was right, but Interactive is a better song and fits better with the theme of the album. So in my perfect world, sorry, Endorphinmachine, but you're out.
And then we'd have Days of Wild of course!
And Beautiful Girl without all the sound effects.
Acknowledge Me is also pretty good and I can do without We March.
The rest of the album is fine. Nothing really great, but still pretty good.
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Reply #2 posted 08/01/20 11:03am

AvocadosMax

In my perfect world, combine Come and Gold Experience as a triple album
But with more raw production like early Come iterations so it all sounds good together

I mean, we have The Dawn bootleg, but imagine that actually done by Prince himself
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Reply #3 posted 08/01/20 11:08am

SoulAlive

I love the album,but here are a few changes I would make...

*Remove "P Control" and replace it with the superior "Hide The Bone".

*Remove "We March",replace it with "Days Of Wild" and make it the title track (I think 'The Gold Experience' is a corny title for an album).

*Add the excellent track "Ripopgodazippa" to the album.

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Reply #4 posted 08/01/20 11:52am

herb4

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Add Days of Wild, one of his best songs, and get rid of the seques.


Also, why is "Now" a "guilty pleasure"? That song fucking bangs.

[Edited 8/1/20 11:53am]

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Reply #5 posted 08/01/20 12:11pm

homesquid

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cut "319" and "We March"

add "Days Of Wild"

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Reply #6 posted 08/01/20 12:12pm

IstenSzek

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lately, i've been enjoying it like this:


Interactive

Days Of Wild
Now
Endorphinmachine
Shhh
Acknowledge Me
The Most Beautiful Girl in the World
Ripopgodazippa
Dolphin
319
Billy Jack Bitch
I Hate U
Gold


which came about because i've been listening to a lot of the glam slam shows
and he did 'interactive/days of wild/now' quite a few times in that order and it
sounds great.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #7 posted 08/01/20 12:27pm

dodger

I was so pissed off Days Of Wild didn't make the cut after being obsessed with it in The Beautiful Experience movie. So that would be the first thing I'd add.
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Similar case with Acknowledge Me so that would be in and as someone else said Interactive should be in for the concept.
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There's also Ripopgodazippa. I only noticed recently after all these years on Crystal Ball you can hear the keyboard typing sound effect at the end as was intended on the album.
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Really could have been a superb double album..
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Reply #8 posted 08/01/20 12:29pm

dodger

IstenSzek said:

lately, i've been enjoying it like this:


Interactive

Days Of Wild
Now
Endorphinmachine
Shhh
Acknowledge Me
The Most Beautiful Girl in the World
Ripopgodazippa
Dolphin
319
Billy Jack Bitch
I Hate U
Gold


which came about because i've been listening to a lot of the glam slam shows
and he did 'interactive/days of wild/now' quite a few times in that order and it
sounds great.



This was posted while I was typing.
What a fucking album that is
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Reply #9 posted 08/01/20 1:10pm

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Would not change it

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Reply #10 posted 08/01/20 3:09pm

Empress

I don't understand why some people on this site are always wanting to change Prince's albums. Leave his shit alone! The albums are how he wanted them to be.
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Reply #11 posted 08/01/20 3:52pm

mynameisnotsus
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Don't use it as a ploy to renegotiate with WB and release it in '94 when you have some public momentum behind MBGITW
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Reply #12 posted 08/01/20 4:39pm

Strive

Empress said:

I don't understand why some people on this site are always wanting to change Prince's albums. Leave his shit alone! The albums are how he wanted them to be.


It's fun to wonder what if and The Gold Experience is one album that was definitely overthought by Prince.

The March configuation seems like it would have been cool. Especially if there was an earlier version of Gold on it. There was a good song buried in that overproduction.


  1. NPG Operator
  2. Interactive (shorter version)
  3. NPG Operator
  4. Days Of Wild
  5. NPG Operator
  6. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World
  7. NPG Operator
  8. Now
  9. Acknowledge Me
  10. Ripopgodazippa
  11. NPG Operator
  12. 319
  13. NPG Operator
  14. Shy
  15. Billy Jack Bitch
  16. EyeBlue.png Hate U
  17. NPG Operator
  18. Gold
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Reply #13 posted 08/01/20 6:37pm

SoulAlive

Empress said:

I don't understand why some people on this site are always wanting to change Prince's albums. Leave his shit alone! The albums are how he wanted them to be.


It’s just a fun,”what if” type of thread.I like these type of discussions.
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Reply #14 posted 08/01/20 6:40pm

SoulAlive

dodger said:

I was so pissed off Days Of Wild didn't make the cut after being obsessed with it in The Beautiful Experience movie. So that would be the first thing I'd add.


I feel the same way.I think it’s one of his best,most convincing hip-hop songs.
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Reply #15 posted 08/02/20 1:45am

mediumdry

Empress said:

The albums are how he wanted them to be.

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At the time of delivery to WB (or whatever record label). And for reasons that could be entirely non-musical.

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Reply #16 posted 08/02/20 1:48am

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Wouldn’t change a thing about the album we actually got, although I’m sure I’d have loved some of the alternate configurations as well. Maybe just tack on Interactive, Days of Wild and Acknowledge Me as bonus tracks somewhere. Pretty much everything he did in this era seems to reach ‘personal favourite’ status for me.
[Edited 8/2/20 1:50am]
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Reply #17 posted 08/02/20 4:21am

NouveauDance

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Between Come and TGE, Interactive, Acknowledge Me and Days Of Wild definately deserved to be released at that time. I don't know what you'd eject from TGE other than the obvious musical weaklink of We March.

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Reply #18 posted 08/02/20 8:22am

leecaldon

We March has to go (how on earth did that end up on the Anthology??)

I thought Interactive worked pretty well live with Endorphinmachine. I would try to find a space for it somewhere.

Some version of Days of Wild needs to be there.

The Ride and Ripopgodazippa are worthy of inclusion.

Achnowledge Me makes a good case.

The question is, how long should the album be. If we're keeping it at it's current run time, it gets more interesting on what gets bumped. Because I'm struggling to lose anything apart from We March.

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Reply #19 posted 08/02/20 9:04am

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Deffo add Days of Wild Studio version. Tagged it on to the of my iPod album anyway!
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Reply #20 posted 08/02/20 10:29am

mspolym00g

It's my all-time favorite, so I wouldn't change much other than to add Days of Wild and Rock n Roll is Alive (And it Lives in Minneapolis) as a bonus track because it slaps so hard.

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Reply #21 posted 08/02/20 11:47am

mtlfan

Unless the swearing offends people, I don’t get the hate for P Control. I’ve read critics call it misogynist and they obviously weren’t listening. It’s pretty much the template for Beyoncé’s whole consumer feminism shtick. Always loved it, especially how the hooks merge, and think it’s a great opener. If I could make one change, it would be removing “please access another experience” from the jam on Billy Jack Bitch. Ruins it for the DJ booth. I’m not crazy about a few of the others but rate this album high because the A-material is tremendous.
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Reply #22 posted 08/02/20 11:48am

mtlfan

I want to add that I love BJB.
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Reply #23 posted 08/02/20 12:10pm

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Remove "Shy." I fucking hate that song. I sequenced it the fuck out and mixed the segues so it flows right the fuck over it.

Otherwise, it's a perfect album. The Purple Rain of the 90s.

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Reply #24 posted 08/02/20 1:54pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

Remove "Shy." I fucking hate that song. I sequenced it the fuck out and mixed the segues so it flows right the fuck over it.

Otherwise, it's a perfect album. The Purple Rain of the 90s.


No, it's not. It doesn't even come close to Purple Rain. That album was Prince at the peak of his power, TGE is him trying to stay relevant in a music world that was changing. There's nothing on TGE as great as When Doves Cry or The Beautiful Ones or any other PR song.
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Reply #25 posted 08/02/20 1:57pm

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this album was a bit of a mess

id change it to the following, to make it a bit more cohesive and more like the band sounded at that time, though i know that is all relative with an artist like prince.

  1. Interactive
  2. Endorphinmachine (4:06)
  3. Shhh (7:16)
  4. Dolphin (4:59)
  5. 319 (3:05)
  6. Shy (5:04)
  7. Billy Jack Bitch (5:32) 2
  8. EyeBlue.png Hate U (5:54)
  9. Gold (7:23)
  10. rock n roll is alive and it lives in minneapolis (hidden track)

i know thats a short album, but not all albums need to be more than 40/45 mins. most 90s prince albums really needed cutting.

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Reply #26 posted 08/02/20 2:07pm

SoulAlive

SantanaMaitreya said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Remove "Shy." I fucking hate that song. I sequenced it the fuck out and mixed the segues so it flows right the fuck over it.

Otherwise, it's a perfect album. The Purple Rain of the 90s.

No, it's not. It doesn't even come close to Purple Rain. That album was Prince at the peak of his power, TGE is him trying to stay relevant in a music world that was changing. There's nothing on TGE as great as When Doves Cry or The Beautiful Ones or any other PR song.

I get why some think of this album as "the Purple Rain of the 90s".

the title track is a big,arena rock anthem like the Purple Rain title song.

"I Hate U" is a big,over-the-top ballad that gets more aggressive and louder at the end,similiar to "The Beautiful Ones".

In one review,a critic described "319" as a "Kiss" for the 90s.

TGE is a very "loud" album......similiar to the Purple Rain album.

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Reply #27 posted 08/02/20 3:01pm

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"Purple Rain of the 90s" = people who like electric rawk guitar/fuzzbox/a general arena rock approach.

Oddly enough "Shy" probably makes my Top 3 on this record, just beneath "Shhh" and "I Hate U".

[Edited 8/2/20 15:03pm]

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Reply #28 posted 08/02/20 3:34pm

TrivialPursuit

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SantanaMaitreya said:


No, it's not. It doesn't even come close to Purple Rain. That album was Prince at the peak of his power, TGE is him trying to stay relevant in a music world that was changing. There's nothing on TGE as great as When Doves Cry or The Beautiful Ones or any other PR song....to me.


There. Fixed it. lol


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Reply #29 posted 08/02/20 3:52pm

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Remove: P Control, Now (even though its a guilty pleasure)

Why a guilty pleasure?

I'd say it's overall my favorite prince track and quite simply my favorite song.

It speaks the ULTIMATE truth in a way that only prince could tell it.

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