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macaylasdad

So...will there be an "Orginals" Vol.2 set???

If there would be another release, who would have to the rights? Tidal? WB? Also, how many albums is Tidal able to release?

As the estate is in dissarray and no one is really sure of what music is going to be released, I am really intrigued with "Orginals" and what else could be released. So much great music that we could hear!

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Reply #1 posted 06/09/19 9:04am

Strive

The release of Originals completes the Estate's obligations to Tidal. Michael Howe said that there could be Originals Vol. 2 if the first does well enough. If there is a Vol. 2, I'd imagine it will be a Warner Bros album.

As to what could be on Vol 2, Tidal has a "Written By: Prince" playlist. Here's the songs on it that aren't on Originals.

Nasty Girl
777-9311
Get It Up
How Come You DOn't Call Me
Love Song
Sugar Walls
A Love Bizarre
Yo Mister
Jerk Out
Stand Back
Why Should I Love You?
With This Tear
2gether
101
The Belle Of St. Mark
The Bird
He's Mine
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Reply #2 posted 06/09/19 10:30am

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Strive said:

The release of Originals completes the Estate's obligations to Tidal.


Yep, it's part of a settlement between Tidal and the estate over who owned the rights to what, etc. (remember when Jay Z was bragging about having Prince's music and all that.)

I do think Piano and a Microphone and Originals could be testings for a future series of similar releases over 2 or 3 years.

We don't see it anytime soon (ie in a year's time). There is something coming in the late summer. It won't be WB.

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Reply #3 posted 06/09/19 11:19am

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Strive said:

The release of Originals completes the Estate's obligations to Tidal. Michael Howe said that there could be Originals Vol. 2 if the first does well enough. If there is a Vol. 2, I'd imagine it will be a Warner Bros album. As to what could be on Vol 2, Tidal has a "Written By: Prince" playlist. Here's the songs on it that aren't on Originals. Nasty Girl 777-9311 Get It Up How Come You DOn't Call Me Love Song Sugar Walls A Love Bizarre Yo Mister Jerk Out Stand Back Why Should I Love You? With This Tear 2gether 101 The Belle Of St. Mark The Bird He's Mine


I thought Prince only played keyboard on Stand Back?

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Reply #4 posted 06/09/19 12:10pm

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Strive said:

The release of Originals completes the Estate's obligations to Tidal. Michael Howe said that there could be Originals Vol. 2 if the first does well enough. If there is a Vol. 2, I'd imagine it will be a Warner Bros album. As to what could be on Vol 2, Tidal has a "Written By: Prince" playlist. Here's the songs on it that aren't on Originals. Nasty Girl 777-9311 Get It Up How Come You DOn't Call Me Love Song Sugar Walls A Love Bizarre Yo Mister Jerk Out Stand Back Why Should I Love You? With This Tear 2gether 101 The Belle Of St. Mark The Bird He's Mine

Prince did not do any vocals for "stand back." Other than Nicks used the music for LRC the only input Prince had as the Synthisizer... So his verson dosn't exist.


also "How Come You DOn't Call"? what?

"A Love Bizarre" would be cool!

"The Belle Of St. Mark" is something I would LOVE to hear more than any other of the songs he wrote for others.

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Reply #5 posted 06/09/19 12:43pm

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TheEnglishGent said:

Strive said:

The release of Originals completes the Estate's obligations to Tidal. Michael Howe said that there could be Originals Vol. 2 if the first does well enough..... Stand Back


I thought Prince only played keyboard on Stand Back?


He did. He didn't write it. And his keyboard parts have been released/leaked on the internet. He played a few parts (more than just one as the story used to go). There'd be no reason to have "Stand Back" on there, because it's not his original song.

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Reply #6 posted 06/09/19 1:14pm

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TrivialPursuit said:



TheEnglishGent said:




Strive said:


The release of Originals completes the Estate's obligations to Tidal. Michael Howe said that there could be Originals Vol. 2 if the first does well enough..... Stand Back


I thought Prince only played keyboard on Stand Back?




He did. He didn't write it. And his keyboard parts have been released/leaked on the internet. He played a few parts (more than just one as the story used to go). There'd be no reason to have "Stand Back" on there, because it's not his original song.


Likewise for “Why Should I Love You?” as that’s Kate Bush’s song. Whoever made that playlist mustn’t have known what they were doing.
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Reply #7 posted 06/09/19 1:33pm

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Likewise for “Why Should I Love You?” as that’s Kate Bush’s song. Whoever made that playlist mustn’t have known what they were doing.



Prince added vocals, but also added many instrumental parts to the song, at his Paisley Park Studios. When Kate Bush and Del Palmer listened to Prince's returned track, they weren't sure what to do with it. They worked on it on and off for two years to try to "turn it back into a Kate Bush song".


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Reply #8 posted 06/09/19 1:42pm

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hmmm Any chance there might be an uncredited original lurking someplace for one of these tracks:



Wendy & Lisa - Waterfall



Wendy & Lisa - Lolly Lolly



Madonna - Like a Prayer



Madonna - Keep It Together



[Edited 6/9/19 13:43pm]

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Reply #9 posted 06/09/19 2:45pm

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TrivialPursuit said:



Strive said:


The release of Originals completes the Estate's obligations to Tidal.


Yep, it's part of a settlement between Tidal and the estate over who owned the rights to what, etc. (remember when Jay Z was bragging about having Prince's music and all that.)

I do think Piano and a Microphone and Originals could be testings for a future series of similar releases over 2 or 3 years.

We don't see it anytime soon (ie in a year's time). There is something coming in the late summer. It won't be WB.


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So if it isn’t WB, that means it’s sony, which means legacy. Get ready for more purple vinyl at triple the price of a normal record.
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Reply #10 posted 06/09/19 4:08pm

macaylasdad

TrivialPursuit said:

Strive said:

The release of Originals completes the Estate's obligations to Tidal.


Yep, it's part of a settlement between Tidal and the estate over who owned the rights to what, etc. (remember when Jay Z was bragging about having Prince's music and all that.)

I do think Piano and a Microphone and Originals could be testings for a future series of similar releases over 2 or 3 years.

We don't see it anytime soon (ie in a year's time). There is something coming in the late summer. It won't be WB.

Thanks Trivs. What would you like to see released?? I would like to see a 2 disc set of various songs from P&M 2016 tour...so many great performances!

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Reply #11 posted 06/09/19 4:27pm

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I would like to hear Prince's version of So strong (Dale) and Time Waits for No One (Mavis Staples) on Vol.2
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Reply #12 posted 06/09/19 4:46pm

Strive

mikeyaddict said:

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So if it isn’t WB, that means it’s sony, which means legacy. Get ready for more purple vinyl at triple the price of a normal record.


I guess it could be the First Ave 83 concert that Apple bought the rights to (along with the rights to make a documentary out of it and the rehearsal footage leading up to that show)

People were saying that a CD/DVD were being planned for release.

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Reply #13 posted 06/09/19 5:56pm

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mikeyaddict said:


. So if it isn’t WB, that means it’s sony, which means legacy. Get ready for more purple vinyl at triple the price of a normal record.


Not really. Remember, WB is only thru the early 90s. NPG Records was what Sony took over. I mean, we don't know exactly what it is, but I'm not totally sure it's just going to be another purple vinyl cash grab. Of course, we'll see.

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Reply #14 posted 06/09/19 8:53pm

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First they sell you the albums.

Then they sell you the originals.

Then they sell you the demoes.

And then they remaster them all.

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Reply #15 posted 06/09/19 11:19pm

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Strive said:



mikeyaddict said:


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So if it isn’t WB, that means it’s sony, which means legacy. Get ready for more purple vinyl at triple the price of a normal record.


I guess it could be the First Ave 83 concert that Apple bought the rights to (along with the rights to make a documentary out of it and the rehearsal footage leading up to that show)

People were saying that a CD/DVD were being planned for release.


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If it was that then I would cum in my pants. Literally.
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Reply #16 posted 06/09/19 11:22pm

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TrivialPursuit said:



mikeyaddict said:



. So if it isn’t WB, that means it’s sony, which means legacy. Get ready for more purple vinyl at triple the price of a normal record.


Not really. Remember, WB is only thru the early 90s. NPG Records was what Sony took over. I mean, we don't know exactly what it is, but I'm not totally sure it's just going to be another purple vinyl cash grab. Of course, we'll see.



Fingers crossed, and thanks for giving my hard early cynicism a knock.
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Reply #17 posted 06/09/19 11:51pm

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macaylasdad said:

TrivialPursuit said:

We don't see it anytime soon (ie in a year's time). There is something coming in the late summer. It won't be WB.

Thanks Trivs. What would you like to see released?? I would like to see a 2 disc set of various


songs from P&M 2016 tour...so many great performances!


Logically, WB should schedule 1999 Deluxe next spring, about this time. I think they're still not ready to release more than one album a year. So beyond that, we're looking at 2021. I'm not sure what Sony could release. Maybe The Undertaker?

I believe, as noted in other's posts, that if Piano and a Microphone and Originals does well, they could be a setup for a series over time, maybe every 2 or 3 years. I said that about PAAM when it came out, too.

There are many things I'd like to see come out. But what is logical to actually sell records to a larger market... that remains to be seen. With PAAM & Originals, I stay optimistic. I'll ride the Originals wave for a year, it's such a rich set.

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Reply #18 posted 06/10/19 1:27am

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Strive said:

I guess it could be the First Ave 83 concert that Apple bought the rights to

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WTF did let that happen?

Nice coherent releases will not be releaised this way.

Please provide some backgrounds.

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Reply #19 posted 06/10/19 3:09am

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FUNKNROLL said:



hmmm Any chance there might be an uncredited original lurking someplace for one of these tracks:



Wendy & Lisa - Waterfall



Wendy & Lisa - Lolly Lolly



Madonna - Like a Prayer



Madonna - Keep It Together



[Edited 6/9/19 13:43pm]

I remember hearing that there is a prince cover of Like a Prayer.

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Reply #20 posted 06/10/19 7:06am

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pld71 said:

FUNKNROLL said:



hmmm Any chance there might be an uncredited original lurking someplace for one of these tracks:



Wendy & Lisa - Waterfall



Wendy & Lisa - Lolly Lolly



Madonna - Like a Prayer



Madonna - Keep It Together



[Edited 6/9/19 13:43pm]

I remember hearing that there is a prince cover of Like a Prayer.



It isn't a "cover" it's just him blazing guitar over the track and actually turn it into a good track...
I want to hear his cover of Jacko's "Bad" that supposedly exists somewhere in his vault...

Neversin.

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FUNKNROLL said:



hmmm Any chance there might be an uncredited original lurking someplace for one of these tracks:



Wendy & Lisa - Waterfall



Wendy & Lisa - Lolly Lolly



Madonna - Like a Prayer



Madonna - Keep It Together



[Edited 6/9/19 13:43pm]

Very unlikely, I see no reason why.

However there is the mystery of Are You My Baby? and that instrumental sometimes titled Pickle that appears to be a genuine Prince outtake and that shares its fundations with Are You My Baby?. It's possible Are You My Baby? was based on that track Prince sent to W&L and this is what BigChick believes, but it's still a bit unclear what happened and how. Neversin do you know anything about this?

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Neversin said:

pld71 said:

I remember hearing that there is a prince cover of Like a Prayer.



It isn't a "cover" it's just him blazing guitar over the track and actually turn it into a good track...
I want to hear his cover of Jacko's "Bad" that supposedly exists somewhere in his vault...

Neversin.

If I’m not mistaken, his full guitar track is on the “Club Version” and the “Dub Beats” remix of “LAP”.

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Reply #23 posted 06/10/19 7:38am

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databank said:

FUNKNROLL said:



hmmm Any chance there might be an uncredited original lurking someplace for one of these tracks:



Wendy & Lisa - Waterfall



Wendy & Lisa - Lolly Lolly



Madonna - Like a Prayer



Madonna - Keep It Together



[Edited 6/9/19 13:43pm]

Very unlikely, I see no reason why.

However there is the mystery of Are You My Baby? and that instrumental sometimes titled Pickle that appears to be a genuine Prince outtake and that shares its fundations with Are You My Baby?. It's possible Are You My Baby? was based on that track Prince sent to W&L and this is what BigChick believes, but it's still a bit unclear what happened and how. Neversin do you know anything about this?


If you mean that "Tickle my Pickle" thing, I believe it to be 100% fake, it doesn't even remotely sound like Prince or anything he would do...
The backing track is probably lifted from the instrumental promo of the "Are You My Baby?"...

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TheSilentMikey said:

Neversin said:



It isn't a "cover" it's just him blazing guitar over the track and actually turn it into a good track...
I want to hear his cover of Jacko's "Bad" that supposedly exists somewhere in his vault...

Neversin.

If I’m not mistaken, his full guitar track is on the “Club Version” and the “Dub Beats” remix of “LAP”.


That's just a small part, he wailed over the entire song and actually murders it... Death by way of the Blue Angel...

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Neversin said:

databank said:

Very unlikely, I see no reason why.

However there is the mystery of Are You My Baby? and that instrumental sometimes titled Pickle that appears to be a genuine Prince outtake and that shares its fundations with Are You My Baby?. It's possible Are You My Baby? was based on that track Prince sent to W&L and this is what BigChick believes, but it's still a bit unclear what happened and how. Neversin do you know anything about this?


If you mean that "Tickle my Pickle" thing, I believe it to be 100% fake, it doesn't even remotely sound like Prince or anything he would do...
The backing track is probably lifted from the instrumental promo of the "Are You My Baby?"...

Neversin.

Yes, that one. OK thanks, that's interesting. BigChick was totally convinced it was real but I can't recall if it had to do with the way he obtained it before it leaked, or if it was just his personal belief. I agree at first I wasn't sure but it sounded like something Prince could have done on one of these days he does something unusual and toys with new tools and concepts.

I once wrote to W&L's website to ask but never got a reply.

So OK, your take on it makes sense. Let's see if further info on this emerges but if not, then maybe it was a fake. For reasons I won't reveal here because I don't think you have, but you'll see what I mean, I'll trust your hears more than the average person's wink

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Reply #26 posted 06/10/19 7:47am

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I hope so. I really love Originals!

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Reply #27 posted 06/10/19 8:27am

AnnaSantana

I certainly hope so.

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Reply #28 posted 06/10/19 8:34am

Strive

udo said:



Strive said:


I guess it could be the First Ave 83 concert that Apple bought the rights to



.


WTF did let that happen?


Nice coherent releases will not be releaised this way.


Please provide some backgrounds.



Variety reported it around the same time as the Netflix documentary series.

A source also told Variety that a documentary about Prince and the Revolution’s legendary concert at Minneapolis’ First Avenue in August of 1983 has landed at Apple Music. The show marked the debut of guitarist Wendy Melvoin and the “Purple Rain”-era incarnation of the Revolution, along with the premieres of several songs that would later appear in the album and film nearly a year later (in fact, the album versions of three of those songs were recorded at the show, albeit with significant overdubs added later).


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Reply #29 posted 06/10/19 7:02pm

macaylasdad

TrivialPursuit said:

macaylasdad said:

Thanks Trivs. What would you like to see released?? I would like to see a 2 disc set of various


songs from P&M 2016 tour...so many great performances!


Logically, WB should schedule 1999 Deluxe next spring, about this time. I think they're still not ready to release more than one album a year. So beyond that, we're looking at 2021. I'm not sure what Sony could release. Maybe The Undertaker?

I believe, as noted in other's posts, that if Piano and a Microphone and Originals does well, they could be a setup for a series over time, maybe every 2 or 3 years. I said that about PAAM when it came out, too.

There are many things I'd like to see come out. But what is logical to actually sell records to a larger market... that remains to be seen. With PAAM & Originals, I stay optimistic. I'll ride the Originals wave for a year, it's such a rich set.

you are speaking truths... thank you.

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