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Reply #90 posted 04/25/19 7:33am

TheFreakerFant
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Finally, the estate are coming up with something decent, so thanks for listening! (I was starting to lose hope due to all silence and the rush release last year but this really is exciting).

Can't wait to hear the full qualiy version of Baby You're A Trip (hoping it is the 81/82 version but seems to be), I think his version is one of his all time best songs tbh, just for the sheer passion in it.

It will also be really cool to hear his versions of Sex Shooter, Jungle Love and Dear Michaelangelo, bet they are funky as hell!

There are other songs, true, but these are a good choice and it also lays open the possibility of a series of Originals Part 2 to come later if this goes down well.

They have also chosen well with the cover design, love it.

This all just to goes to show that the estate are clearly running a tight ship security wise now as no-one had any inkling this was coming, even the so called people in the know like Funkenberry said they'd be nothing until 2021 which was thankfully, as I suspected, bullshit.

This also gives hope that the 1999 Deluxe may still be a possibility later this year (despite someone on here claiming to be in the know saying it wasn't true, despite no evidence.)

[Edited 4/25/19 7:35am]

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Reply #91 posted 04/25/19 7:34am

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I’m looking forward to it!!!!! I’ve got some songs, but love to have them in good quality. Bring it on!!!!!
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Reply #92 posted 04/25/19 7:35am

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I see this is available for pre-order through the official Prince website. But I can't find it yet on Amazon. Anyone have a link for the pre-order (US version)?

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Reply #93 posted 04/25/19 7:37am

ideation99

Finally, something to get excited about!! Great concept, hopefully this does well so they can add additional volumes in the future. Obviously many more songs they could still put out with his vocals and music.

Cannot wait for Noon Rendezvous!! Not gonna lie, dissapointed not to have G-Spot or Neon Telephone. But at least this is a good start. Bring it on!!

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Reply #94 posted 04/25/19 7:38am

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

Finally, the estate are coming up with something decent, so thanks for listening! (I was starting to lose hope due to all silence and the rush release last year but this really is exciting).

Can't wait to hear the full qualiy version of Baby You're A Trip (hoping it is the 81/82 version but seems to be), I think his version is one of his all time best songs tbh, just for the sheer passion in it.

It will also be really cool to hear his versions of Sex Shooter, Jungle Love and Dear Michaelangelo, bet they are funky as hell!

There are other songs, true, but these are a good choice and it also lays open the possibility of a series of Originals Part 2 to come later if this goes down well.

They have also chosen well with the cover design, love it.

This all just to goes to show that the estate are clearly running a tight ship security wise now as no-one had any inkling this was coming, even the so called people in the know like Funkenberry said they'd be nothing until 2021 which was thankfully, as I suspected, bullshit.

This also gives hope that the 1999 Deluxe may still be a possibility later this year (despite someone on here claiming to be in the know saying it wasn't true, despite no evidence.)

[Edited 4/25/19 7:35am]

That would be ROD...

Funny Jon Bream stated that 1999 Deluxe is complete and will be released 4th quarter holiday season.

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Reply #95 posted 04/25/19 7:41am

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Kares said:

lurker316 said:

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Do we know for certain the stuff so far has been sourced from cassettes? Has that actually been confirmed/admitted? Or is that just an educated guess based on how poor they sound?

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And why would they do that? Why not go into the vault and pull the original tapes, restore them, and put those on the album? Simply because they were in a rush to release content?

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I've stated in other threads that I'm no audiophile and don't necessarily notice subtle differences in music quality, but the stuff on PP Deluxe jumped out at me. Dance Electric in particular. You don't need a sophisticated ear to hear that it's far inferior to the bootleg version.

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The Estate wasn't really involved in producing Purple Rain Deluxe and it was done at the time when Warners didn't yet have access to the vault in Paisley Park. Prince only gave them the album itself (remastered, quite badly) a few years earlier, so the rest is what Warners was able to gather from their own copies of mastertapes (for the singles) and cassettes (for the outtakes). That's all they had to work with.
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(A bit off-topic, but...) What do you think is bad about the PR remasters?

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Reply #96 posted 04/25/19 7:46am

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luv4u said:

Song Title First Released by (Artist: Album – year) Year of Prince’s Recording Included on Originals

1. Sex Shooter Apollonia 6: Apollonia 6 – 1984 1983

2. Jungle Love The Time: Ice Cream Castle – 1984 1983

3. Manic Monday The Bangles: Different Light – 1985 1984

4. Noon Rendezvous Sheila E.: The Glamorous Life – 1984 1984

5. Make-Up Vanity 6: Vanity 6 – 1982 1981

6. 100 MPH Mazarati: Mazarati – 1986 1984

7. You’re My Love Kenny Rogers: They Don’t Make Them Like They Used To – 1986 1982

8. Holly Rock Sheila E.: Krush Groove (OST) – 1985 1985

9. Baby, You’re a Trip Jill Jones: Jill Jones – 1987 1982

10. The Glamorous Life Sheila E.: The Glamorous Life – 1984 1983

11. Gigolos Get Lonely Too The Time: What Time Is It? – 1982 1982

12. Love… Thy Will Be Done Martika: Martika’s Kitchen – 1991 1991

13. Dear Michaelangelo Sheila E.: Romance 1600 – 1985 1985

14. Wouldn’t You Love to Love Me? Taja Sevelle: Taja Sevelle – 1987 1981

15. Nothing Compares 2 U The Family: The Family – 1985 1984


Looking through my boots, it looks like we have:

3. Manic Monday (low quality) whoops! No, I was thinking of the Apollonia 6 version.

6. 100 MPH (awful quality)

9. Baby, You're A Trip (decent quality)

10. The Glamorous Life (decent quality)

12. Love... Thy Will Be Done (decent quality)

13. Dear Michaelangelo (low quality)

14. Wouldn't You Love To Love Me? (decent quality)

15. Nothing Compares 2 U (excellent quality)

That's less than half with most in need of an upgrade. So, for everyone other than the "elite" hoarders, this should be a welcome release. Who want to bet some of these tracks leak in better quality than we've had over the next 2 months? wink

Ross Perot was right!!
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Reply #97 posted 04/25/19 7:47am

KlyphIsBackAga
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Kares said:

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

Like I said, no proof. I will continue to think (notice I said think, not state it as fact) that it's not a coincidence that the studio tapes of virtually all of the "new" songs that we've heard, official or otherwise, since after he announced his new deal with WB are all there, either right beside each other or in close proximity, in the police vault pictures.

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Like I said, it's proof FOR ME. I've no intention to convince you.
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But I don't know what you mean on that "it's no coincidence" that all the new songs are there next to each other? Are they? biggrin (Pls see the Vault database files in my signature, it contains all the titles I could read from the police photos.) And what are you implying?

Yes, the tapes are pretty much all together in one of the pics. I'm implying this: PR Deluxe gets announced. Prince (or an associate) goes through the vault, finds some stuff to give to WB for the album, makes some basic stereo mixdown and give it to them (more than likely in MP3 format) to listen to/choose from/etc. Between the the time it's announced and finally comes out bootleg versions of many of the songs (including some that ended up on PR Deluxe) are leaked (more than likely from someone at WB or involved in the project somewhere). Almost ALL of the tapes of those leaked and official "new" songs are next to each in one of the vault pics (Come Electra Tuesday, Love and Sex, Velvet Kitty , Moonbeam Levels, Electric Intercourse, etc).

Prince keeps dicking around, never gets the actual multi-tracks to WB, keeps putting off remastering PR (I doubt WB actually wanted him to be the one to do it anyway), finally gets it done, dies. WB ends up using the subpar digital files that Prince gave them....but they are not cassette copies. Might as well be, but they're not.

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Reply #98 posted 04/25/19 7:49am

Genesia

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TheEnglishGent said:

So am I the only person excited for this? Got shitty versions of most of these, so having great versions is something I'm looking forward to. Not sure I've even heard a version of Manic Monday with Prince on lead or Jungle Love.

Looking forward to this.


I'm so excited, I wet myself a little when I read about it on Facebook. I'm so excited, I will probably buy it twice - as a download and on vinyl.

I am not excited enough to pay for Tidal, however.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #99 posted 04/25/19 7:53am

Genesia

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darkroman said:

I've seen on the official store there are THREE vinyl pressings in BLACK, PURPLE and WHITE.

I think it is unfair of the Estate to expect fans and collectors to buy THREE versions of the vinyl which always costs fans a premium but it is cheap to produce.

This is very expoitative!


sad sad sad



Please learn the difference between an expectation and a choice. Thank you.

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Reply #100 posted 04/25/19 7:53am

djThunderfunk

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lurker316 said:

Kares said:

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The Estate wasn't really involved in producing Purple Rain Deluxe and it was done at the time when Warners didn't yet have access to the vault in Paisley Park. Prince only gave them the album itself (remastered, quite badly) a few years earlier, so the rest is what Warners was able to gather from their own copies of mastertapes (for the singles) and cassettes (for the outtakes). That's all they had to work with.
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(A bit off-topic, but...) What do you think is bad about the PR remasters?

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I'll answer that. The PR remaster is the absolute worst example of brickwalling of any Prince release ever. It's so distorted that it is literally painful to listen to. Sure, some of the quiet parts of The Beautiful Ones sound amazing, then you get to the loud parts of Darling Nikki and it's just distorted noise. It's awful. It's unlistenable. It's a waste of the disc it was pressed on. The original master is superior in every single way imaginable. If the original CD doesn't do it for you, find an original vinyl or the 180gm vinyl rerelease. Avoid the PR remaster at all costs. Buy it for the vault tracks, just don't ever play the album.

In my not-so-humble opinion, of course... wink

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Reply #101 posted 04/25/19 7:56am

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djThunderfunk said:


Looking through my boots, it looks like we have:

3. Manic Monday (low quality) whoops! No, I was thinking of the Apollonia 6 version.

6. 100 MPH (awful quality)

9. Baby, You're A Trip (decent quality)

10. The Glamorous Life (decent quality)

12. Love... Thy Will Be Done (decent quality)

13. Dear Michaelangelo (low quality)

14. Wouldn't You Love To Love Me? (decent quality)

15. Nothing Compares 2 U (excellent quality)

That's less than half with most in need of an upgrade. So, for everyone other than the "elite" hoarders, this should be a welcome release. Who want to bet some of these tracks leak in better quality than we've had over the next 2 months? wink

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I have an instrumental version of Jungle Love that's labeled "Original Jesse Johnson Demo". Anyone know if such a thing truely exists? Is what I have legit or some fanmade song?

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The only other things I have on that list as a decent (not great, but not horrible) copy of 100 MPH and the standalone version of NC2U that was released last year.

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Reply #102 posted 04/25/19 7:57am

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

Finally, the estate are coming up with something decent, so thanks for listening! (I was starting to lose hope due to all silence and the rush release last year but this really is exciting).

Can't wait to hear the full qualiy version of Baby You're A Trip (hoping it is the 81/82 version but seems to be), I think his version is one of his all time best songs tbh, just for the sheer passion in it.

It will also be really cool to hear his versions of Sex Shooter, Jungle Love and Dear Michaelangelo, bet they are funky as hell!

There are other songs, true, but these are a good choice and it also lays open the possibility of a series of Originals Part 2 to come later if this goes down well.

They have also chosen well with the cover design, love it.

This all just to goes to show that the estate are clearly running a tight ship security wise now as no-one had any inkling this was coming, even the so called people in the know like Funkenberry said they'd be nothing until 2021 which was thankfully, as I suspected, bullshit.

This also gives hope that the 1999 Deluxe may still be a possibility later this year (despite someone on here claiming to be in the know saying it wasn't true, despite no evidence.)

[Edited 4/25/19 7:35am]



actually, funkenberry said there would be no releases of post WB era material, or of the last things
prince recorded, until 2021.

he followed that up by saying that there would be releases, in fact there were a couple compilations
that would be released before that time.

far as i can tell, "Originals" is in fact a compilation. so funkenberry did know. i guess everyone was
aksed to keep quiet about it and it was intended to be a surprise to be announced at celebration '19.


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #103 posted 04/25/19 8:00am

djThunderfunk

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lurker316 said:

djThunderfunk said:


Looking through my boots, it looks like we have:

3. Manic Monday (low quality) whoops! No, I was thinking of the Apollonia 6 version.

6. 100 MPH (awful quality)

9. Baby, You're A Trip (decent quality)

10. The Glamorous Life (decent quality)

12. Love... Thy Will Be Done (decent quality)

13. Dear Michaelangelo (low quality)

14. Wouldn't You Love To Love Me? (decent quality)

15. Nothing Compares 2 U (excellent quality)

That's less than half with most in need of an upgrade. So, for everyone other than the "elite" hoarders, this should be a welcome release. Who want to bet some of these tracks leak in better quality than we've had over the next 2 months? wink

.

I have an instrumental version of Jungle Love that's labeled "Original Jesse Johnson Demo". Anyone know if such a thing truely exists? Is what I have legit or some fanmade song?

.

The only other things I have on that list as a decent (not great, but not horrible) copy of 100 MPH and the standalone version of NC2U that was released last year.

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From PrinceVault:

"Jesse Johnson demoed the song, likely in 1982 on a Tascam 8-track recorder in his Cedar Square West Apartment, playing guitar, bass guitar and keyboard (Oberheim OB-SX), over a Roland 808 Drum Machine beat. He presented it to Prince who then took it to flesh it out with Johnson and Morris Day."

https://www.princevault.c...ungle_Love

Ross Perot was right!!
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Reply #104 posted 04/25/19 8:02am

Urine

This looks cool.

someone else suggested a single tomorrow. That would b cool.

I vote 4 Love Thy Wll Be Done.

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Reply #105 posted 04/25/19 8:03am

Kares

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KlyphIsBackAgain said:

Kares said:

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Like I said, it's proof FOR ME. I've no intention to convince you.
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But I don't know what you mean on that "it's no coincidence" that all the new songs are there next to each other? Are they? biggrin (Pls see the Vault database files in my signature, it contains all the titles I could read from the police photos.) And what are you implying?

Yes, the tapes are pretty much all together in one of the pics. I'm implying this: PR Deluxe gets announced. Prince (or an associate) goes through the vault, finds some stuff to give to WB for the album, makes some basic stereo mixdown and give it to them (more than likely in MP3 format) to listen to/choose from/etc. Between the the time it's announced and finally comes out bootleg versions of many of the songs (including some that ended up on PR Deluxe) are leaked (more than likely from someone at WB or involved in the project somewhere). Almost ALL of the tapes of those leaked and official "new" songs are next to each in one of the vault pics (Come Electra Tuesday, Love and Sex, Velvet Kitty , Moonbeam Levels, Electric Intercourse, etc).

Prince keeps dicking around, never gets the actual multi-tracks to WB, keeps putting off remastering PR (I doubt WB actually wanted him to be the one to do it anyway), finally gets it done, dies. WB ends up using the subpar digital files that Prince gave them....but they are not cassette copies. Might as well be, but they're not.

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Could you please show me the photo where you've seen "almost all of the tapes of those leaked and official new songs are next to each other"? Or look them up on my PP Vault spreadsheet (see link below) and tell me the photo number?
Make sure they are mixdown tapes and not multitracks, because multitracks aren't needed to put together a release. So Prince never would've delivered the multitracks to Warners anyway.
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Note that at least one of the heirs confirmed in an interview that PRD was put together by Warners without their involvement. Also: while both mp3 files and cassette copies sound inferior to a master, they sound DIFFERENT. The negative side-effects of mp3 encoding and of a cassette tape are very different and distinctive. The PRD outtakes were not sourced from mp3 but from cassettes.
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Friends don't let friends clap on 1 and 3.

The Paisley Park Vault spreadsheet: https://goo.gl/zzWHrU
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Reply #106 posted 04/25/19 8:05am

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Urine said:

This looks cool.

someone else suggested a single tomorrow. That would b cool.

I vote 4 Love Thy Wll Be Done.



i would love that eek cool

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Reply #107 posted 04/25/19 8:06am

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Kares said:

Also: while both mp3 files and cassette copies sound inferior to a master, they sound DIFFERENT. The negative side-effects of mp3 encoding and of a cassette tape are very different and distinctive. The PRD outtakes were not sourced from mp3 but from cassettes.


yeahthat

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Reply #108 posted 04/25/19 8:20am

rapper

Bravo. I am really looking forward to this.

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Reply #109 posted 04/25/19 8:21am

jaypotton

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Can't wait to crank Holly Rock and Sex Shooter in the Jeep this summer. Just watched the Sex Shooter video to whet my appetite. Forgot about the little storyline. lol She makes the little tap on the cymbal look absolutely rapturous! Who says she couldn't act? lol lol



Oh man watching that was nostalgic! Those songs were the soundtrack to my early teens. Watching that cleavage, err I mean video is it any wonder I grew up a bit Pervy LOL
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
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Reply #110 posted 04/25/19 8:34am

LenguaDePlata

ideation99 said:

Finally, something to get excited about!! Great concept, hopefully this does well so they can add additional volumes in the future. Obviously many more songs they could still put out with his vocals and music.



Cannot wait for Noon Rendezvous!! Not gonna lie, dissapointed not to have G-Spot or Neon Telephone. But at least this is a good start. Bring it on!!


If Noon Rendezvous is similar to the rehearsal, with all the guitar work and the ‘sitting in this cafe, waiting for my baby’ coda, that will be so sweet...
Life is just a party, and parties weren’t meant to last...
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Reply #111 posted 04/25/19 8:36am

timmie

cool

this should finish off the contracts with Tidal & WB too !

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Reply #112 posted 04/25/19 8:42am

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LenguaDePlata said:

ideation99 said:

Finally, something to get excited about!! Great concept, hopefully this does well so they can add additional volumes in the future. Obviously many more songs they could still put out with his vocals and music.



Cannot wait for Noon Rendezvous!! Not gonna lie, dissapointed not to have G-Spot or Neon Telephone. But at least this is a good start. Bring it on!!


If Noon Rendezvous is similar to the rehearsal, with all the guitar work and the ‘sitting in this cafe, waiting for my baby’ coda, that will be so sweet...

Donut that’s what’s coming as the cafe bit was from the live and rehearsal
c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
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Reply #113 posted 04/25/19 8:42am

LenguaDePlata

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Can't wait to crank Holly Rock and Sex Shooter in the Jeep this summer. Just watched the Sex Shooter video to whet my appetite. Forgot about the little storyline. lol She makes the little tap on the cymbal look absolutely rapturous! Who says she couldn't act? lol lol


The line ‘I’m a sex shooter, shooting love in your direction’ is going to sound a lot more... erm... literal in a guy’s voice...
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Reply #114 posted 04/25/19 8:47am

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

This all just to goes to show that the estate are clearly running a tight ship security wise now as no-one had any inkling this was coming, even the so called people in the know like Funkenberry said they'd be nothing until 2021 which was thankfully, as I suspected, bullshit.


We knew this release was coming, we just didn't have any idea what form it would take. We knew there was going to be a release in assosciation with Tidal, this is it.

RIP sad
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Reply #115 posted 04/25/19 9:03am

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Can't wait!! Awesome news.

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Reply #116 posted 04/25/19 9:06am

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Remember the press release said it would be new music, guess it is "new music" that has never been officially released.

Many people were assuming it was HitnRun 3, or Black Is The New Black.

TheEnglishGent said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

This all just to goes to show that the estate are clearly running a tight ship security wise now as no-one had any inkling this was coming, even the so called people in the know like Funkenberry said they'd be nothing until 2021 which was thankfully, as I suspected, bullshit.


We knew this release was coming, we just didn't have any idea what form it would take. We knew there was going to be a release in assosciation with Tidal, this is it.

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Reply #117 posted 04/25/19 9:06am

PURPLEIZED3121

nosajd said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

yes & it's bloody brilliant! much easier interface than apple etc.


Tidal is great, but it's still not without it's flaws. Don't get me wrong, I agree it is way easier than apple music or spotify. The content they have is pretty impressive. I am a big Tidal fan and have garnered a few new fans of the streaming service and they love it as well.

agreed. The most annoying thing is my playlist for associated artists inc Vanity 6 / Apollia 6, ALL The Family tracks [!] are no longer available.

Besides that they seem to have everything I want.

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Reply #118 posted 04/25/19 9:10am

PURPLEIZED3121

this is a truly great release for casual fans, the majority of which won't even understand the whole 'he did these tracks first' scenario!

Really hope the liner notes are great.

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Reply #119 posted 04/25/19 9:11am

PURPLEIZED3121

feeluupp said:

Remember the press release said it would be new music, guess it is "new music" that has never been officially released.

Many people were assuming it was HitnRun 3, or Black Is The New Black.

TheEnglishGent said:


We knew this release was coming, we just didn't have any idea what form it would take. We knew there was going to be a release in assosciation with Tidal, this is it.

must admit I am a bit gutted that it's not these instead BUT happy non the less.

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