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Reply #210 posted 01/30/19 4:46pm

onlyforaminute

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

onlyforaminute said:



She did or he did? Since its along with the video and it's technically illegal to record phone conversations without all parties involved being aware of it, he had to of given his permission if she did it and vis versa.




It is illegal if neither party knows the call is being recorded.

Federal law allows recording phone calls/conversations if one party knows it is being recorded, and most states follow this rule.



Seems weird with all the hubbub of companies always letting you know the conversation is being recorded, since they would be the one party in the convo knowing it's being recorded.

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Reply #211 posted 01/30/19 4:47pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

onlyforaminute said:



She did or he did? Since its along with the video and it's technically illegal to record phone conversations without all parties involved being aware of it, he had to of given his permission if she did it and vis versa.




It is illegal if neither party knows the call is being recorded.

Federal law allows recording phone calls/conversations if one party knows it is being recorded, and most states follow this rule.

Hmmm, I always thought that both parties are legally required to know the call is being recorded, hence, when you call a company you'll get the auto-message saying, "this call may be recorded for quality purposes...". My friend is a Lawyer and works for the US States Attorney's office - she told me it is a Federal offense in any state (I think) to record someone without their knowledge.

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From that video, it is clear that no one was told the call was being recorded eek

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Reply #212 posted 01/30/19 4:51pm

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onlyforaminute said:

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If the Damaris call was staged, he did some fine acting on that one! He sounded geniunely confused, and also very tired. But yes, it woudl be surprising if she took it upon herself to do that without his knowledge at all.



Again it's the whole recording someone over the phone without their knowledge thing, and the fact the station was airing live I believe, seems he would have had to been informed prior to it going to the public. Prince never had a problem suing folks as much as folks liked to sue him, so I guess that was part of the consideration.

But, she did tell him before the call was done, and they all laughed and joked about it. Prince was much more laid back by that point too, so I can see him not having a big issue with it. Especially, since he got the last laugh by hanging up on her...."Damaris?", "Yeah?", "Click - dial tone!"

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Reply #213 posted 01/30/19 4:57pm

onlyforaminute

violetcrush said:

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Again it's the whole recording someone over the phone without their knowledge thing, and the fact the station was airing live I believe, seems he would have had to been informed prior to it going to the public. Prince never had a problem suing folks as much as folks liked to sue him, so I guess that was part of the consideration.

But, she did tell him before the call was done, and they all laughed and joked about it. Prince was much more laid back by that point too, so I can see him not having a big issue with it. Especially, since he got the last laugh by hanging up on her...."Damaris?", "Yeah?", "Click - dial tone!"



He could have given his permission way ahead of time and still been sleep at the time. Who knows? Its still funny.

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Reply #214 posted 01/30/19 5:06pm

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onlyforaminute said:

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But, she did tell him before the call was done, and they all laughed and joked about it. Prince was much more laid back by that point too, so I can see him not having a big issue with it. Especially, since he got the last laugh by hanging up on her...."Damaris?", "Yeah?", "Click - dial tone!"



He could have given his permission way ahead of time and still been sleep at the time. Who knows? Its still funny.

Sure, that is certainly possible. She very well may have said, "hey, I might give you a call while I'm on the show...."

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Reply #215 posted 01/30/19 5:15pm

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violetcrush said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




It is illegal if neither party knows the call is being recorded.

Federal law allows recording phone calls/conversations if one party knows it is being recorded, and most states follow this rule.

Hmmm, I always thought that both parties are legally required to know the call is being recorded, hence, when you call a company you'll get the auto-message saying, "this call may be recorded for quality purposes...". My friend is a Lawyer and works for the US States Attorney's office - she told me it is a Federal offense in any state (I think) to record someone without their knowledge.

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From that video, it is clear that no one was told the call was being recorded eek



I am an attorney.

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Reply #216 posted 01/30/19 5:39pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

violetcrush said:

Hmmm, I always thought that both parties are legally required to know the call is being recorded, hence, when you call a company you'll get the auto-message saying, "this call may be recorded for quality purposes...". My friend is a Lawyer and works for the US States Attorney's office - she told me it is a Federal offense in any state (I think) to record someone without their knowledge.

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From that video, it is clear that no one was told the call was being recorded eek



I am an attorney.

Okay, but the legal if one party knows it's being recorded" doesn't make sense to me at all.

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So, I can record a phone conversation with my friend without his or her knowledge, and I know the call is being recorded. If the friend discovers I've recorded the call, and sues me for obtaining information from that call without his or her knowledge, I won't have any legal repercussions from that lawsuit??

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Reply #217 posted 01/30/19 5:48pm

onlyforaminute

Eh, I got lazy and wiki'd it. It depends on the the country, each country has different laws. In the US it depends on the state. I live in a 2 party consent state so that's what I know. Minni is a single party consent state so he could. Don't remember what country Anna's from.

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Reply #218 posted 01/30/19 7:50pm

violetcrush

onlyforaminute said:

Eh, I got lazy and wiki'd it. It depends on the the country, each country has different laws. In the US it depends on the state. I live in a 2 party consent state so that's what I know. Minni is a single party consent state so he could. Don't remember what country Anna's from.

Okay, that makes more sense. I guess it's "call at your own risk" for those who happen to live in a 1 party consent state or country biggrin I believe Anna was a resident of London England at that time, but not 100% sure.

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Reply #219 posted 01/31/19 12:35pm

onlyforaminute

violetcrush said:

onlyforaminute said:

Eh, I got lazy and wiki'd it. It depends on the the country, each country has different laws. In the US it depends on the state. I live in a 2 party consent state so that's what I know. Minni is a single party consent state so he could. Don't remember what country Anna's from.

Okay, that makes more sense. I guess it's "call at your own risk" for those who happen to live in a 1 party consent state or country biggrin I believe Anna was a resident of London England at that time, but not 100% sure.



Seems my state has the strictest policy even if the person recording is from another state or country, it's still a no without both parties consenting. But outside of that, for personal use seems to be okay as long as there is no 3rd party getting involved. I'd assume the public would be 3rd party but I don't know.

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Reply #220 posted 01/31/19 1:10pm

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onlyforaminute said:



violetcrush said:




onlyforaminute said:


Eh, I got lazy and wiki'd it. It depends on the the country, each country has different laws. In the US it depends on the state. I live in a 2 party consent state so that's what I know. Minni is a single party consent state so he could. Don't remember what country Anna's from.




Okay, that makes more sense. I guess it's "call at your own risk" for those who happen to live in a 1 party consent state or country biggrin I believe Anna was a resident of London England at that time, but not 100% sure.





Seems my state has the strictest policy even if the person recording is from another state or country, it's still a no without both parties consenting. But outside of that, for personal use seems to be okay as long as there is no 3rd party getting involved. I'd assume the public would be 3rd party but I don't know.


Well, if she did record without Prince's knowledge then I guess the entire world is the 3rd party now that she's posted it on YT eek
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Reply #221 posted 01/31/19 2:15pm

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this reminds me that prince's ebony interview was recorded. some have conjectured that he knew this so he had it pulled. the journalist has come up with some weak ass excuse that he accidentally left his recorder on.

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Reply #222 posted 01/31/19 3:04pm

violetcrush

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this reminds me that prince's ebony interview was recorded. some have conjectured that he knew this so he had it pulled. the journalist has come up with some weak ass excuse that he accidentally left his recorder on.

I thought that guy knew his recorder was on. I think he said he hit record on his cell phone and put it in his pocket. No one knew he had it there. He said, no one had asked him for the phone, so he used it for the recording. Really bad form. I think Prince had it pulled as soon as he read it, and knew that it had been recorded. It was out there for a short time before it was removed.

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Reply #223 posted 01/31/19 3:07pm

onlyforaminute

violetcrush said:



PeteSilas said:


this reminds me that prince's ebony interview was recorded. some have conjectured that he knew this so he had it pulled. the journalist has come up with some weak ass excuse that he accidentally left his recorder on.




I thought that guy knew his recorder was on. I think he said he hit record on his cell phone and put it in his pocket. No one knew he had it there. He said, no one had asked him for the phone, so he used it for the recording. Really bad form. I think Prince had it pulled as soon as he read it, and knew that it had been recorded. It was out there for a short time before it was removed.



This is new to me. So an interviewer was trying to record the interview knowing how Prince felt about that?
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Reply #224 posted 01/31/19 4:34pm

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onlyforaminute said:

violetcrush said:



PeteSilas said:


this reminds me that prince's ebony interview was recorded. some have conjectured that he knew this so he had it pulled. the journalist has come up with some weak ass excuse that he accidentally left his recorder on.




I thought that guy knew his recorder was on. I think he said he hit record on his cell phone and put it in his pocket. No one knew he had it there. He said, no one had asked him for the phone, so he used it for the recording. Really bad form. I think Prince had it pulled as soon as he read it, and knew that it had been recorded. It was out there for a short time before it was removed.



This is new to me. So an interviewer was trying to record the interview knowing how Prince felt about that?

Yes. The whole situation sounded absurd. The guy plays piano and he asked Prince if he could play one of his songs for him. I believe he said Prince looked a bit amused by that, but let him use the piano - he did not stay to listen to him play. Then I believe he said he thought the interview was over, but ended up sitting in one of Prince's sports cars talking to him. He even stated that the sound is muffled, because he had his phone in his pocket. A real low-life. No wonder Prince didn't trust journalists.
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Reply #225 posted 01/31/19 5:10pm

onlyforaminute

violetcrush said:

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This is new to me. So an interviewer was trying to record the interview knowing how Prince felt about that?
Yes. The whole situation sounded absurd. The guy plays piano and he asked Prince if he could play one of his songs for him. I believe he said Prince looked a bit amused by that, but let him use the piano - he did not stay to listen to him play. Then I believe he said he thought the interview was over, but ended up sitting in one of Prince's sports cars talking to him. He even stated that the sound is muffled, because he had his phone in his pocket. A real low-life. No wonder Prince didn't trust journalists.



Yikes.

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