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Reply #60 posted 10/31/18 11:33am

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paulludvig said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Exactly

The 83 Dance Benefit show could be released without embellishments. It is important enough in itself, and Prince put in a great performance. If videoes of rehearsals for this specific show exist, then that would be cool as well. Always fun to hear Prince directing the band. More exited about the documentary though aa it will cover his entire career and possibly include unseen material.

How is the band, who were actually there during rehearsals, conversations, ideas, and the actual performance, speaking about their memories of that show any kind of "embellishment"?? This implies that you think the band members will intentionally exaggerate and/or add details which are false, which is quite unfair to all of them. They were there - we were not there.

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I personally loved the interviews with the band, managers, and director on the Purple Rain 20th Anniversary DVD. It provided so much more information, and there is no reason to believe that anyone who contributed was embellishing or lying about the experience.

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Reply #61 posted 10/31/18 11:46am

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

I just saw "Bohemian Rhapsody" the Freddy Mecury biopic last night. It was BRILLIANTLY done.

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It really isn't. It is a whitewash of Mercury's life, for instance focusing at length on his straight marriage while ignoring his gay life etc. Not showing his debauched parties (including for instance dwarves carrying coke-filled trays on their head) is ridiculous. Etc. It's yet another episode of May & Taylor desperately trying to keep the Queen brand alive despite Freddie being dead longer than he was part of the band(!).

"Straight" marriage?! That woman knew what was going on with him before he did. He wasn't even faithful to her. The movie alluded MANY times his attraction for the same sex during the marriage. Without the graphic sex scenes. Is that what U wanted to see? Sounds more like your fantasy than mine. lol

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #62 posted 10/31/18 11:51am

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I just saw "Bohemian Rhapsody" the Freddy Mecury biopic last night. It was BRILLIANTLY done.

I hope one day I live to see someone portray Prince in this way in respect of his legacy.

I don't want a biopic. Here's why: Prince recorded literally EVERY aspect/moment of his professional career. You don't need to re-create it with an actor "trying" to be Prince. You have the footage of the actual man. Documentary is THE way to go.

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Example: Which is a better film about Muhammed Ali? Ali starring Will Smith? When We Were Kings, starring Muhammad Ali? Catch my drift?

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Reply #63 posted 10/31/18 11:54am

violetcrush

skywalker said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I just saw "Bohemian Rhapsody" the Freddy Mecury biopic last night. It was BRILLIANTLY done.

I hope one day I live to see someone portray Prince in this way in respect of his legacy.

I don't want a biopic. Here's why: Prince recorded literally EVERY aspect/moment of his professional career. You don't need to re-create it with an actor "trying" to be Prince. You have the footage of the actual man. Documentary is THE way to go.

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Example: Which is a better film about Muhammed Ali? Ali starring Will Smith? When We Were Kings, starring Muhammad Ali? Catch my drift?

Agreed. There is enough video footage of Prince. He filmed and photographed just about everything he did. Also, NO ONE can do Prince, but Prince himself. He was too multi-faceted and unique for any actor or performer to realistically replicate.

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Reply #64 posted 10/31/18 12:00pm

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violetcrush said:

paulludvig said:

OldFriends4Sale said: The 83 Dance Benefit show could be released without embellishments. It is important enough in itself, and Prince put in a great performance. If videoes of rehearsals for this specific show exist, then that would be cool as well. Always fun to hear Prince directing the band. More exited about the documentary though aa it will cover his entire career and possibly include unseen material.

How is the band, who were actually there during rehearsals, conversations, ideas, and the actual performance, speaking about their memories of that show any kind of "embellishment"?? This implies that you think the band members will intentionally exaggerate and/or add details which are false, which is quite unfair to all of them. They were there - we were not there.

*

I personally loved the interviews with the band, managers, and director on the Purple Rain 20th Anniversary DVD. It provided so much more information, and there is no reason to believe that anyone who contributed was embellishing or lying about the experience.

I like David Z's part in the background show recording and Roy Bennetts stage lighting information

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

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Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
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Reply #65 posted 10/31/18 12:03pm

violetcrush

OldFriends4Sale said:

violetcrush said:

How is the band, who were actually there during rehearsals, conversations, ideas, and the actual performance, speaking about their memories of that show any kind of "embellishment"?? This implies that you think the band members will intentionally exaggerate and/or add details which are false, which is quite unfair to all of them. They were there - we were not there.

*

I personally loved the interviews with the band, managers, and director on the Purple Rain 20th Anniversary DVD. It provided so much more information, and there is no reason to believe that anyone who contributed was embellishing or lying about the experience.

I like David Z's part in the background show recording and Roy Bennetts stage lighting information

Yes!! Two guys who were there from the start....

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Reply #66 posted 10/31/18 12:03pm

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skywalker said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I just saw "Bohemian Rhapsody" the Freddy Mecury biopic last night. It was BRILLIANTLY done.

I hope one day I live to see someone portray Prince in this way in respect of his legacy.

I don't want a biopic. Here's why: Prince recorded literally EVERY aspect/moment of his professional career. You don't need to re-create it with an actor "trying" to be Prince. You have the footage of the actual man. Documentary is THE way to go.

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Example: Which is a better film about Muhammed Ali? Ali starring Will Smith? When We Were Kings, starring Muhammad Ali? Catch my drift?

I was thinking the same thing.

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the m
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Reply #67 posted 10/31/18 12:16pm

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skywalker said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I just saw "Bohemian Rhapsody" the Freddy Mecury biopic last night. It was BRILLIANTLY done.

I hope one day I live to see someone portray Prince in this way in respect of his legacy.

I don't want a biopic. Here's why: Prince recorded literally EVERY aspect/moment of his professional career. You don't need to re-create it with an actor "trying" to be Prince. You have the footage of the actual man. Documentary is THE way to go.

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Example: Which is a better film about Muhammed Ali? Ali starring Will Smith? When We Were Kings, starring Muhammad Ali? Catch my drift?

GREAT example! I'll accept that.

Except for the Will Smith quote. I worked in "Ali" starring Will Smith and experienced him up,close, & personal. He put his heart & soul in that movie. Also is one of the BEST actors in his generation!

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #68 posted 10/31/18 3:34pm

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I really hope with the dance benefit we get the show in its entirety and not just a documentary. It would be a kick in the nuts to know they had access to it in near pristine quality and then we only see snippets as part of a doc!

leggers have the 105 minute version

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Reply #69 posted 10/31/18 4:51pm

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I’m glad it’s a multi-part documentary because every era deserves a full episode.
There is a lot to cover. Socio-political, race, sexuality, masculity and then all the artistic stuff. The creation of his own brand of music.

I think it should be at LEAST FOUR PARTS

1. the rise of a star.
2. Pop life and the creation of all his side projects.
3. His 90’s downfall.
4, And his renaissance in the 2000’s
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Reply #70 posted 10/31/18 6:25pm

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SNIP
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #71 posted 11/02/18 8:35am

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The unseen footage must be mind blowing, if they allow it. They have to trust Ava. Six hour doc would be best. lol

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #72 posted 11/02/18 8:52am

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This sounds pretty dayum exciting!

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Reply #73 posted 11/02/18 8:59am

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There should be an informed collective from the fan community (Bart, Militant, Ben, Org, Princevault, etc.) who organizes vital video, music and biographical recommendations for Ava.
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Reply #74 posted 11/02/18 9:00am

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jdcxc said:

There should be an informed collective from the fan community (, Militant, Ben, Org, Princevault, etc.) who organizes vital video, music and biographical recommendations for Ava.

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Reply #75 posted 11/02/18 9:16am

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So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #76 posted 11/02/18 11:21am

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I've heard its already finished & ready & will be out soon.

This is TRRRRUEE?

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Reply #77 posted 11/02/18 12:05pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

I've heard its already finished & ready & will be out soon.

"soon" is relative, probably. I would think that when word like this comes out that it's closer than further away, but that could still be 4 or 5 months down the road. I can't see it being released and lost in the shuffle during the holiday season. I don't look for it until after the new year, at least. Just a guess.

This experience will cover courtship, sex, commitment, fetishes, loneliness, vindication, love, and hate.
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Reply #78 posted 11/02/18 1:35pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

I've heard its already finished & ready & will be out soon.

Where have you heard this? smile Looking forward to it.

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Reply #79 posted 11/03/18 6:10am

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This has the BBC Omnibus doco to live up to. Which has set the bar. Hope it can live up to that standard...

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Reply #80 posted 11/03/18 9:57am

violetcrush

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This has the BBC Omnibus doco to live up to. Which has set the bar. Hope it can live up to that standard...

You mean the one called "Prince - A Purple Reign"?? I liked that one as well. It was organized and presented very well. Just wondering how in the world they will document his entire life, plus interviews, plus performance footage....maybe in parts by decade?? Sooooo much information to cover, and if it's done right there should be at least a few hours worth of length to it.

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Reply #81 posted 11/03/18 11:48am

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violetcrush said:



milesb said:


This has the BBC Omnibus doco to live up to. Which has set the bar. Hope it can live up to that standard...




You mean the one called "Prince - A Purple Reign"?? I liked that one as well. It was organized and presented very well. Just wondering how in the world they will document his entire life, plus interviews, plus performance footage....maybe in parts by decade?? Sooooo much information to cover, and if it's done right there should be at least a few hours worth of length to it.



So much music and performances and interesting details about his life. His effect on music, the music industry, sexuality, being able to be a sex symbol as a short man who wore effeminate attire. The beautiful and talented people he worked worked and associated with. His look. His symbol.

There is soooo much to cover!
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Reply #82 posted 11/03/18 2:08pm

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milesb said:

This has the BBC Omnibus doco to live up to. Which has set the bar. Hope it can live up to that standard...

Same here... photo-12759.gif

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Reply #83 posted 11/03/18 2:16pm

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It's been a while since I seen the BBC Omnibus but I think I recall there was some proper thinking going on in it, actual consideration of the work, not just mindless superlatives about how Prince was everything to everyone all the time.

Netflix have the money to make a series, Prince has the documentation to make a series of serieses, they should go deep.

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Reply #84 posted 11/03/18 8:02pm

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The Omnibus documentary is the best Prince documentary so far. It came out around the time Diamonds and Pearls was being released. It went into the man behind the music and included tantalising snips from the Camden 88 aftershow, The Ladder soundcheck, Prince in the studio with Mavis, Diamonds and Pearls tour rehearsals.

The best music documentary series I've ever seen was The Beatles Anthology.

6 part series. If you haven't seen it, it's worth checking out.

If Ava can do something even half as good as that, I'll be happy smile

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Reply #85 posted 11/03/18 8:31pm

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milesb said:

The Omnibus documentary is the best Prince documentary so far. It came out around the time Diamonds and Pearls was being released. It went into the man behind the music and included tantalising snips from the Camden 88 aftershow, The Ladder soundcheck, Prince in the studio with Mavis, Diamonds and Pearls tour rehearsals.

The best music documentary series I've ever seen was The Beatles Anthology.

6 part series. If you haven't seen it, it's worth checking out.

If Ava can do something even half as good as that, I'll be happy smile

Another great music doc was Rock and Roll--a ten part American-British series from 1995. I liked it so much I bought it from over-seas years ago on DVD... Still have it; gonna have to look at it again! And, yes, The Beatles Anthology was excellent.

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Reply #86 posted 11/03/18 11:35pm

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milesb said:

The Omnibus documentary is the best Prince documentary so far. It came out around the time Diamonds and Pearls was being released. It went into the man behind the music and included tantalising snips from the Camden 88 aftershow, The Ladder soundcheck, Prince in the studio with Mavis, Diamonds and Pearls tour rehearsals.

The best music documentary series I've ever seen was The Beatles Anthology.

6 part series. If you haven't seen it, it's worth checking out.

If Ava can do something even half as good as that, I'll be happy smile

Another great music doc was Rock and Roll--a ten part American-British series from 1995. I liked it so much I bought it from over-seas years ago on DVD... Still have it; gonna have to look at it again! And, yes, The Beatles Anthology was excellent.

Haven't seen that. Will have to check it out. Thanks for the tip.

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Reply #87 posted 11/04/18 5:11am

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That sounds so cool smile

Although I have to admit I know little about Duvernay's work. I've only seen the Family Feud video by her, but it was awesome.

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Reply #88 posted 11/04/18 6:16am

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milesb said:

The Omnibus documentary is the best Prince documentary so far. It came out around the time Diamonds and Pearls was being released. It went into the man behind the music and included tantalising snips from the Camden 88 aftershow, The Ladder soundcheck, Prince in the studio with Mavis, Diamonds and Pearls tour rehearsals.

The best music documentary series I've ever seen was The Beatles Anthology.

6 part series. If you haven't seen it, it's worth checking out.

If Ava can do something even half as good as that, I'll be happy smile

The BBC docu Prince - A Purple Reign, which was released in 2011, uses footage from that Omnibus film. I like the way it's narrated, and it captures key points in his life from the beginning. It's only about an hour long though, so it just scratches the surface of each time period up to 2011.

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How long was the Ominibus film? What is the actual title of the film?

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Here is the YT video for the BBC Prince - A Purple Reign video:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlTwe9LxZ8w&t=566s

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Reply #89 posted 11/04/18 6:42am

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Why did the Estate choose one network instead of an independent producer?

Now we will not (soon, legally) see this docco.

Not everybody pays for video.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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