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Prince Vault Archivist Michael Howe Interview

Meet The Guy Tasked With Archiving Prince’s Entire Vault
By Dee Lockett

http://www.vulture.com/am...rview.html
[Edited 9/20/18 9:34am]
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Reply #1 posted 09/20/18 10:17am

databank

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Quite interesting.

The sad parts:

"I should issue the caveat that I’ve had to sign an NDA, so I can’t be specific about a lot of things." --> I can't see why. Speaking would help.

"And you would never consider putting out unfinished work?
Correct. That all gets to stay with the family. There are some things that’ll never emerge." --> Sad. Very honestly I think this won't be a consideration that lasts forever, because music historians will have the last say in a century or so, and they'll want to hear everything. Unfortunately we'll be long gone.

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Reply #2 posted 09/20/18 10:38am

Romeoblu

This interview gives me hope. It sounds as if they are handling things correctly. I was very happy to read the word chronologically.

The Piano and Micro phone release really wouldn't have come close to my choice for a first release but I like the way it's been handled and released as stand alone as opposed to being broken down or incorporated into a massive box set. I have warmed to it and am looking forward to receiving my my copy.
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Reply #3 posted 09/20/18 10:49am

antonb

What a lucky sod! i would do that for free. And probably release something better!

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Reply #4 posted 09/20/18 11:18am

PennyPurple

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Lot's of music and we get P & M 1983... rolleyes

We don't stand much of a chance with the unfinished work cause it stays with the family.


At this rate my grandchildren (which I don't have yet) will be streaming it at my grave.


I give up on hoping that they'll release something that is worth a shit.

And you would never consider putting out unfinished work?
Correct. That all gets to stay with the family. There are some things that’ll never emerge.


Have you successfully competed cataloguing all the items or is this still a work in progress?
I’m very much still finding new things every day.

Do you have an estimate for how much music we’re talking about here?
Yes, but I can’t convey it. It’s lots.


Less than a million or …?
Less.

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Reply #5 posted 09/20/18 11:27am

Genesia

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PennyPurple said:

And you would never consider putting out unfinished work?

Correct. That all gets to stay with the family. There are some things that’ll never emerge.



All I can say is, I hope somewhere in there, they find the finished version of Cosmic Day. beg

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #6 posted 09/20/18 11:31am

IstenSzek

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databank said:

Quite interesting.

The sad parts:

"I should issue the caveat that I’ve had to sign an NDA, so I can’t be specific about a lot of things." --> I can't see why. Speaking would help.

"And you would never consider putting out unfinished work?
Correct. That all gets to stay with the family. There are some things that’ll never emerge." --> Sad. Very honestly I think this won't be a consideration that lasts forever, because music historians will have the last say in a century or so, and they'll want to hear everything. Unfortunately we'll be long gone.


yet the very first release is a rehearsal of unfinished, demo versions of some songs that
were later released and others which remain unreleased.

falloff

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #7 posted 09/20/18 11:33am

antonb

Well if its up to Tyka , everything is going to come out, so they is hope! But its took this long to release one tape demo! When we know there is hundreds of songs in there. Not to mention all the concert recordings, etc. We better not hold our breath!

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Reply #8 posted 09/20/18 11:47am

PennyPurple

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antonb said:

Well if its up to Tyka , everything is going to come out, so they is hope! But its took this long to release one tape demo! When we know there is hundreds of songs in there. Not to mention all the concert recordings, etc. We better not hold our breath!

Tyka said 1 collection a year. confused

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Reply #9 posted 09/20/18 12:33pm

nelcp777

PennyPurple said:

antonb said:

Well if its up to Tyka , everything is going to come out, so they is hope! But its took this long to release one tape demo! When we know there is hundreds of songs in there. Not to mention all the concert recordings, etc. We better not hold our breath!

Tyka said 1 collection a year. confused

I believe it when I see it happen.

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Reply #10 posted 09/20/18 3:02pm

PennyPurple

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nelcp777 said:

PennyPurple said:

Tyka said 1 collection a year. confused

I believe it when I see it happen.

I know. sad

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Reply #11 posted 09/20/18 3:06pm

TheFman

If that's the interviewer's level, than everybody can be (a better) interviewer. A million?? That guy has dust for brains.

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Reply #12 posted 09/20/18 3:21pm

luvsexy4all

Genesia said:

PennyPurple said:

And you would never consider putting out unfinished work?

Correct. That all gets to stay with the family. There are some things that’ll never emerge.



All I can say is, I hope somewhere in there, they find the finished version of Cosmic Day. beg

but THIS P&M recording should be considered unfinished...

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Reply #13 posted 09/20/18 4:25pm

OperatingTheta
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luvsexy4all said:



Genesia said:




PennyPurple said:


And you would never consider putting out unfinished work?


Correct. That all gets to stay with the family. There are some things that’ll never emerge.








All I can say is, I hope somewhere in there, they find the finished version of Cosmic Day. beg



but THIS P&M recording should be considered unfinished...



Exactly. 'Why The Butterflies' is barely a sketch. Clearly, Prince is privately working out material and tentative ideas. It is an inherently incomplete and fragmentary artifact.
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Reply #14 posted 09/20/18 4:38pm

SquirrelMeat

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Very contradictory interview.

They would never allow unfinished material to be release. Then choose a home tape of unfinished early versions to be the first release.

Feels lazy, rather than legacy building.

This disc does deserve release, but as part of a hardcore 'lost tapes' type box set, or as an extra disc for the 1999 era.

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Reply #15 posted 09/20/18 6:02pm

jennalynn

“All these recordings in the vault at some point would see the light of day after I’m gone.” and "That all gets to stay with the family. There are some things that’ll never emerge." sure don't line up too well... hmm rolleyes

~everything is a prince reference~
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Reply #16 posted 09/21/18 3:35am

MacDaddy

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IstenSzek said:

databank said:

Quite interesting.

The sad parts:

"I should issue the caveat that I’ve had to sign an NDA, so I can’t be specific about a lot of things." --> I can't see why. Speaking would help.

"And you would never consider putting out unfinished work?
Correct. That all gets to stay with the family. There are some things that’ll never emerge." --> Sad. Very honestly I think this won't be a consideration that lasts forever, because music historians will have the last say in a century or so, and they'll want to hear everything. Unfortunately we'll be long gone.


yet the very first release is a rehearsal of unfinished, demo versions of some songs that
were later released and others which remain unreleased.

falloff

ba-dum-tish.

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Reply #17 posted 09/21/18 5:06am

BartVanHemelen

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He's been doing a ton of interviews, you can find them linked throughout this thread: http://prince.org/msg/7/456078

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Reply #18 posted 09/21/18 7:45am

PURPLEIZED3121

fucking scary that nut job Tyka & her clueless so called Heirs are any where near decison making on the vault.

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Reply #19 posted 09/21/18 7:56am

rdhull

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behave

[Edited 9/21/18 12:39pm]

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
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Reply #20 posted 09/21/18 8:17am

SchlomoThaHomo

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So, essentially this is the first release because Michael Howe had a boner for it, and specifically searched for it in the vault. I hope someone with a broader taste and general knowledge of his music is in charge of the releases at some point.

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #21 posted 09/21/18 8:43am

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

So, essentially this is the first release because Michael Howe had a boner for it, and specifically searched for it in the vault. I hope someone with a broader taste and general knowledge of his music is in charge of the releases at some point.



Agreed. It's a wholly unsatisfying listening experience and release.

Worse still, as I wrote earlier, there are far superior recordings of Prince solo at the piano that we're aware of, let alone considering all that is unheard.
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Reply #22 posted 09/21/18 10:37am

luvsexy4all

when it doesnt sell much..they'll reconsider whats being done

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Reply #23 posted 09/21/18 11:02am

BartVanHemelen

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

So, essentially this is the first release because Michael Howe had a boner for it, and specifically searched for it in the vault.

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He already told this IN JULY.

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Sheesh, aren't you guys reading anything? There was one major article in July, so it's not like you had to work through thousands of it. And I posted the relevant excerpt in the sticky thread WRT P&AM83 at the time.

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Reply #24 posted 09/21/18 11:04am

luvsexy4all

any way to contact this guy??

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Reply #25 posted 09/21/18 1:09pm

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IstenSzek said:

databank said:

Quite interesting.

The sad parts:

"I should issue the caveat that I’ve had to sign an NDA, so I can’t be specific about a lot of things." --> I can't see why. Speaking would help.

"And you would never consider putting out unfinished work?
Correct. That all gets to stay with the family. There are some things that’ll never emerge." --> Sad. Very honestly I think this won't be a consideration that lasts forever, because music historians will have the last say in a century or so, and they'll want to hear everything. Unfortunately we'll be long gone.


yet the very first release is a rehearsal of unfinished, demo versions of some songs that
were later released and others which remain unreleased.

falloff

That was exactly what I was going to say !!!

If a man is considered guilty
For what goes on in his mind
Then give me the electric chair
For all my future crimes"
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Reply #26 posted 09/22/18 3:59am

Romeoblu

I wonder if he has found the Russell Ave 1976 tape. That could be the next release.
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Reply #27 posted 09/22/18 5:15am

love2thenines2
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NEW BRAND INTERVIEW BY M.HOWE POSTED 2day...Very instructive!

https://variety.com/2018/...202952085/

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Reply #28 posted 09/22/18 9:58am

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databank said:

Quite interesting.

The sad parts:

"I should issue the caveat that I’ve had to sign an NDA, so I can’t be specific about a lot of things." --> I can't see why. Speaking would help.

"And you would never consider putting out unfinished work?
Correct. That all gets to stay with the family. There are some things that’ll never emerge." --> Sad. Very honestly I think this won't be a consideration that lasts forever, because music historians will have the last say in a century or so, and they'll want to hear everything. Unfortunately we'll be long gone.

The Prince sex tapes found in the Vault will never emerge 4 sure....unfortunately !

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Reply #29 posted 09/22/18 1:26pm

herb4

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IN a way I envy this dude's job and in another way I feel sorry for him. Must be great going through all that stuff but good fucking luck picking out material that will satisfy folks around here. Not sure what people expected but a 20 CD box set with DVD concerts is gonna cost $500 and not only shoot the entire wad but limit its scope to the hardcore audience only.

One solid release a year is fine and a good way to go about it.

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