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Reply #150 posted 10/05/16 4:04pm

rap

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laurarichardson said:

Nothing. These women are in the their 70s. Their eyes are tired because they are old.

Exactly.

Wonder if Lorna & Sharon were thinking "one day, all this will be ours." Well, a portion of it anyway.

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Reply #151 posted 10/05/16 4:20pm

BillieBalloon

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Astasheiks said:




wisdom7 said:



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According to the video with ET Online the elevator has been covered by a wall of records and other memorabilia. http://www.etonline.com/n...an_museum/




I thought they said the wall of records was next to or opposite the elevator, NOT that they covered the elevator with the wall of records....??? confused Because isn't that elevator is used to also go down to lower level to The Vault from a previous video documentary somebody made...





No. They clearly said the wall of records is covering the elevator. Was that the only one in the building?




I'm glad they covered it but my personal opinion is they shouldn't have revealed that fact. Nobody really needs to know where in the building that particular elevator was. Now I imagine it'll be the " spot" where Prince died. It just makes me uncomfortable that they had to mention the exact spot/ area.. why even tell anyone? They could have just said we are not answering questions on the location of the elevator. Maybe I'm being over sensitive.
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Reply #152 posted 10/05/16 4:23pm

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BillieBalloon said:

babynoz said:



Astasheiks said:




wisdom7 said:



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According to the video with ET Online the elevator has been covered by a wall of records and other memorabilia. http://www.etonline.com/n...an_museum/




I thought they said the wall of records was next to or opposite the elevator, NOT that they covered the elevator with the wall of records....??? confused Because isn't that elevator is used to also go down to lower level to The Vault from a previous video documentary somebody made...





No. They clearly said the wall of records is covering the elevator. Was that the only one in the building?




I'm glad they covered it but my personal opinion is they shouldn't have revealed that fact. Nobody really needs to know where in the building that particular elevator was. Now I imagine it'll be the " spot" where Prince died. It just makes me uncomfortable that they had to mention the exact spot/ area.. why even tell anyone? They could have just said we are not answering questions on the location of the elevator. Maybe I'm being over sensitive.
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I agree. I was quite shocked they did that.
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Reply #153 posted 10/05/16 5:29pm

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Just watched ET. TYKA WAS NOT SUPRISED HE DIED. SHE SAID SHE KNEW FOR 2 YEARS HIS TIME WAS COMING TO AN END.
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Reply #154 posted 10/05/16 5:32pm

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Nice tour. Would love to visit soon.

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Reply #155 posted 10/05/16 7:17pm

Superfan1984

WHAT? Please elaborate I do not have cable! She said he knew he was dying?!!!

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Reply #156 posted 10/05/16 8:04pm

babynoz

BillieBalloon said:

babynoz said:



No. They clearly said the wall of records is covering the elevator. Was that the only one in the building?

I'm glad they covered it but my personal opinion is they shouldn't have revealed that fact. Nobody really needs to know where in the building that particular elevator was. Now I imagine it'll be the " spot" where Prince died. It just makes me uncomfortable that they had to mention the exact spot/ area.. why even tell anyone? They could have just said we are not answering questions on the location of the elevator. Maybe I'm being over sensitive. sad



That was something they should have kept silent about. And even if they talked about it they surely should not have shown it on tv.....it's right near the entrance. eek

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Reply #157 posted 10/05/16 11:06pm

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babynoz said:



BillieBalloon said:


babynoz said:




No. They clearly said the wall of records is covering the elevator. Was that the only one in the building?



I'm glad they covered it but my personal opinion is they shouldn't have revealed that fact. Nobody really needs to know where in the building that particular elevator was. Now I imagine it'll be the " spot" where Prince died. It just makes me uncomfortable that they had to mention the exact spot/ area.. why even tell anyone? They could have just said we are not answering questions on the location of the elevator. Maybe I'm being over sensitive. sad



That was something they should have kept silent about. And even if they talked about it they surely should not have shown it on tv.....it's right near the entrance. eek



I'm sure first-time visitors at Paisley Park will wonder where the elevator is located. Even if no one asks about it during the tour out of respect for Prince, it will be like an elephant in the room type of thing. As I watched the interview, it seemed eerily quiet and dark inside Paisley Park. While I don't believe in ghosts and has never seen one, I'd be scared to find myself alone inside it just because my imagination will run wild and feel his presence everywhere in it with all his stuff there.
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Reply #158 posted 10/06/16 12:26am

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C'mon ... she was his sister. Even if they weren't close for a number of years, they still grew up together, had the same parents, went through the same upbringing. Then as adults their paths separated, but the last few years it seems they were able to have a relationship.

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Reply #159 posted 10/06/16 2:52am

rap

I can't believe those doves are still alive!!

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Reply #160 posted 10/06/16 5:35am

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Superfan1984 said:

WHAT? Please elaborate I do not have cable! She said he knew he was dying?!!!

Yes, she said she had known for 2 years he was dying & brushed it off as something he'd said along the lines of "I've done all I've come here to do." & that his fans have only had since April to get over his passing & in another 18 months, we'll be in the same place as she is in terms of her grief.

I thought it came off as rather ignorant, as everyone processes grief differently. It was also somewhat suspect. If she knew he was dying, why did she not act to prevent it?

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Reply #161 posted 10/06/16 6:24am

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LittlePurpleYoda said:

Superfan1984 said:

WHAT? Please elaborate I do not have cable! She said he knew he was dying?!!!

Yes, she said she had known for 2 years he was dying & brushed it off as something he'd said along the lines of "I've done all I've come here to do." & that his fans have only had since April to get over his passing & in another 18 months, we'll be in the same place as she is in terms of her grief.

I thought it came off as rather ignorant, as everyone processes grief differently. It was also somewhat suspect. If she knew he was dying, why did she not act to prevent it?


She's weird, his family is weird. I don't think she's this horrible person everyone is saying she is...but she's definitely odd and says odd shit.

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Reply #162 posted 10/06/16 6:40am

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JustErin said:

LittlePurpleYoda said:

Yes, she said she had known for 2 years he was dying & brushed it off as something he'd said along the lines of "I've done all I've come here to do." & that his fans have only had since April to get over his passing & in another 18 months, we'll be in the same place as she is in terms of her grief.

I thought it came off as rather ignorant, as everyone processes grief differently. It was also somewhat suspect. If she knew he was dying, why did she not act to prevent it?


She's weird, his family is weird. I don't think she's this horrible person everyone is saying she is...but she's definitely odd and says odd shit.

Blunt but probably accurate. She says odd cryptic Princely things

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Reply #163 posted 10/06/16 6:43am

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dodger said:

JustErin said:


She's weird, his family is weird. I don't think she's this horrible person everyone is saying she is...but she's definitely odd and says odd shit.

Blunt but probably accurate. She says odd cryptic Princely things


Yeah. Not that Prince ever really talked about others...but can't you see him saying something like this too?

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Reply #164 posted 10/06/16 6:54am

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rap said:

I can't believe those doves are still alive!!



for real! they are the heart of Paisley Park. let's hope they have been properly sheltered from exposure to the construction process safe and warm in a quiet room with good ventilation.....

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Reply #165 posted 10/06/16 6:56am

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XxAxX said:

rap said:

I can't believe those doves are still alive!!



for real! they are the heart of Paisley Park. let's hope they have been properly sheltered from exposure to the construction process safe and warm in a quiet room with good ventilation.....


I doubt very much they are the original birds. They live up to 20 years, max.

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Reply #166 posted 10/06/16 7:07am

dodger

JustErin said:

dodger said:

Blunt but probably accurate. She says odd cryptic Princely things


Yeah. Not that Prince ever really talked about others...but can't you see him saying something like this too?

That's exactly what I thought when I heard it, almost like he left her a script

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Reply #167 posted 10/06/16 7:08am

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JustErin said:

XxAxX said:



for real! they are the heart of Paisley Park. let's hope they have been properly sheltered from exposure to the construction process safe and warm in a quiet room with good ventilation.....


I doubt very much they are the original birds. They live up to 20 years, max.


lol lol that may be. still, no bird should ever, ever be in the midst of construction. the noise is stressful, maybe the doors are left open making it cold, maybe there is carpet glue or paint fumes... all of which are toxic to birds' delicate respiratory systems.

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Reply #168 posted 10/06/16 9:35am

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Beautiful that they've left things things how he left them.

And for our memories is exactly something Prince would have said.

Damn 6 months already. Feels like 2 months. TRC album cover above the couch so cool... not sure I want to see that elevator though... And he made us a Jazz album.... Bless him heart

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Reply #169 posted 10/06/16 11:41am

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pupa1 said:

Sorry guys but everybody who was close to Prince knew he had no real relationship with his relatives, he had Douane working for him, he was his bodyguard around 1990 for a while and disappeared after that. Tyka was around only the last couple of years. And believe me, her only aim is his money..the ones who know the truth stay silent not to loose a piece of the money cake

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Yes, Tyka and Prince did have a "falling out" many years ago, but I think they had made "amends" in recent years, after her recovery.

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Reply #170 posted 10/06/16 1:37pm

Identity

JustErin said:

dodger said:

Blunt but probably accurate. She says odd cryptic Princely things


Yeah. Not that Prince ever really talked about others...but can't you see him saying something like this too?



She spoke of his passing in an eerily calm, matter-of-fact way. Prince was prone to saying corny, odd things too. I guess it runs in the family.

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Reply #171 posted 10/06/16 2:18pm

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LittlePurpleYoda said:

Superfan1984 said:

WHAT? Please elaborate I do not have cable! She said he knew he was dying?!!!

Yes, she said she had known for 2 years he was dying & brushed it off as something he'd said along the lines of "I've done all I've come here to do." & that his fans have only had since April to get over his passing & in another 18 months, we'll be in the same place as she is in terms of her grief.

I thought it came off as rather ignorant, as everyone processes grief differently. It was also somewhat suspect. If she knew he was dying, why did she not act to prevent it?

Becasue she DIDN'T know and he gave no details other that his vague nonsense about, "I've done all I've come here to do." She brushed it off, just as you would have done after all the other cryptic, unbelievable shit Prince has said over the years. He didn't say he was dying and he didn't say what was killing him, if anything. There was no information upon which to act.


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Reply #172 posted 10/06/16 2:34pm

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steakfinger said:

LittlePurpleYoda said:

Yes, she said she had known for 2 years he was dying & brushed it off as something he'd said along the lines of "I've done all I've come here to do." & that his fans have only had since April to get over his passing & in another 18 months, we'll be in the same place as she is in terms of her grief.

I thought it came off as rather ignorant, as everyone processes grief differently. It was also somewhat suspect. If she knew he was dying, why did she not act to prevent it?

Becasue she DIDN'T know and he gave no details other that his vague nonsense about, "I've done all I've come here to do." She brushed it off, just as you would have done after all the other cryptic, unbelievable shit Prince has said over the years. He didn't say he was dying and he didn't say what was killing him, if anything. There was no information upon which to act.


yeahthat I think people are really stretching if they assume that Tyka's confirming he had a terminal illness (or any illness). She says he made one comment a couple years ago, and SHE interpreted it a certain way. It could very well have more of a spiritual-type comment/interpretation (more like, Tyka had a "premonition" of sorts that his time may be ending sooner than later), rather than actually referencing a physical-health issue. Plus in the Today show she kinda said something different -- that she was essentially stunned by his death when she first heard the news, not that she was anticipating it.

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Full disclosure: I haven't seen the actual ET video clip where she says this. I can't seem to find that part of it online anywhere.

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Reply #173 posted 10/06/16 2:54pm

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disch said:

steakfinger said:

Becasue she DIDN'T know and he gave no details other that his vague nonsense about, "I've done all I've come here to do." She brushed it off, just as you would have done after all the other cryptic, unbelievable shit Prince has said over the years. He didn't say he was dying and he didn't say what was killing him, if anything. There was no information upon which to act.


yeahthat I think people are really stretching if they assume that Tyka's confirming he had a terminal illness (or any illness). She says he made one comment a couple years ago, and SHE interpreted it a certain way. It could very well have more of a spiritual-type comment/interpretation (more like, Tyka had a "premonition" of sorts that his time may be ending sooner than later), rather than actually referencing a physical-health issue. Plus in the Today show she kinda said something different -- that she was essentially stunned by his death when she first heard the news, not that she was anticipating it.

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Full disclosure: I haven't seen the actual ET video clip where she says this. I can't seem to find that part of it online anywhere.

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DISCH: Here is a link for the interview where she states that she knew for 2 years.

http://www.wusa9.com/entertainment/entertainment-tonight/exclusive-princes-sister-tyka-nelson-says-she-knew-his-death-was-coming-ive-been-preparing-for/329377870

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Reply #174 posted 10/06/16 5:17pm

babynoz

LittlePurpleYoda said:

Superfan1984 said:

WHAT? Please elaborate I do not have cable! She said he knew he was dying?!!!

Yes, she said she had known for 2 years he was dying & brushed it off as something he'd said along the lines of "I've done all I've come here to do." & that his fans have only had since April to get over his passing & in another 18 months, we'll be in the same place as she is in terms of her grief.

I thought it came off as rather ignorant, as everyone processes grief differently. It was also somewhat suspect. If she knew he was dying, why did she not act to prevent it?



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Reply #175 posted 10/06/16 5:59pm

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Identity said:

JustErin said:


Yeah. Not that Prince ever really talked about others...but can't you see him saying something like this too?



She spoke of his passing in an eerily calm, matter-of-fact way. Prince was prone to saying corny, odd things too. I guess it runs in the family.

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What do you mean? Tyka doesn't say "odd, cryptic things". She's usually pretty straight forward, at least I find her to be understandable - a lot more so than Prince.

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Reply #176 posted 10/06/16 6:05pm

phatphuk



steakfinger said:



LittlePurpleYoda said:



Superfan1984 said:



"...WHAT? Please elaborate I do not have cable! She said he knew he was dying?!!!..."





"...Yes, she said she had known for 2 years he was dying & brushed it off as something he'd said along the lines of “I've done all I've come here to do.” & that his fans have only had since April to get over his passing & in another 18 months, we'll be in the same place as she is in terms of her grief.

I thought it came off as rather ignorant, as everyone processes grief differently. It was also somewhat suspect. If she knew he was dying, why did she not act to prevent it?
..."





"...Becasue she DIDN'T know and he gave no details other that his vague nonsense about, “I've done all I've come here to do.” She brushed it off, just as you would have done after all the other cryptic, unbelievable shit Prince has said over the years. He didn't say he was dying and he didn't say what was killing him, if anything. There was no information upon which to act...."





Nice one steakfinger! thumbs up!






Here is another one of more considered interpretations of the sister's cryptic riddle, which I'm favoring right now...






By Jayme Deerwester , USA TODAY 3:30 p.m. EDT October 6, 2016



"...“I have been preparing for two years, so I knew that it was coming”...



...Though her choice of words may suggest that Nelson was aware of her brother's use of prescription painkillers, drugs never explicitly came up in the interview...



...Instead, her explanation for why she was prepared for his death was that Prince himself seemed to sense the end was near...



...“He said it a couple of years ago: 'I've done everything that I've come to do,' I was crushed for about two years”..."








It astounds me how people misinterpret "I've done everything that I've come to do" to mean "I'm terminally ill".



"I've done everything that I've come to do" could also be interpreted to mean — "I've accepted that the well of brilliantly original musical ideas has finally run dry".



But hey! If imagining Prince's being terminally ill is what people need to believe to get themselves out of bed in the morning, far be it for me to begrudge them their own spin on the sister's cryptic riddle.




















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    “Sometimes People Don't Want To Hear The Truth Because They Don't Want Their Illusions Destroyed” — Friedrich Nietzsche 
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Reply #177 posted 10/06/16 6:34pm

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I don't think it's what he said that has people wondering. It's that she's been grieving his passing for nearly two years. She said that, too. She said she's been crushed for two years. How are you crushed by a comment someone makes that they've accomplished everything they set out to accomplish (or that they felt God wanted them to accomplish)? Does that make you grieve their death so much that you aren't surprised when they die?

No. She worded it the way you do when someone has been sick -- officially terminal or just sick enough to die. That's when you're not shocked. That's when no more is needed than "he's gone." When my dad called me when my mom passed away after an 11-year illness, he simply said "it's over" when I answered the phone. I knew exactly what he meant. (And we had been told she would live for at least a few months longer...but I knew.)

phatphuk said:



steakfinger said:





Nice one steakfinger! thumbs up!






Here is another one of more considered interpretations of the sister's cryptic riddle, which I'm favoring right now...






By Jayme Deerwester , USA TODAY 3:30 p.m. EDT October 6, 2016



"...“I have been preparing for two years, so I knew that it was coming”...



...Though her choice of words may suggest that Nelson was aware of her brother's use of prescription painkillers, drugs never explicitly came up in the interview...



...Instead, her explanation for why she was prepared for his death was that Prince himself seemed to sense the end was near...



...“He said it a couple of years ago: 'I've done everything that I've come to do,' I was crushed for about two years”..."








It astounds me how people misinterpret "I've done everything that I've come to do" to mean "I'm terminally ill".



"I've done everything that I've come to do" could also be interpreted to mean — "I've accepted that the well of brilliantly original musical ideas has finally run dry".



But hey! If imagining Prince's being terminally ill is what people need to believe to get themselves out of bed in the morning, far be it for me to begrudge them their own spin on the sister's cryptic riddle.




















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Reply #178 posted 10/06/16 7:47pm

phatphuk

teach49 said:



"...When my dad called me when my mom passed away after an 11-year illness, he simply said “it's over” when I answered the phone. I knew exactly what he meant. (And we had been told she would live for at least a few months longer...but I knew.)..."



phatphuk said:



steakfinger said:



LittlePurpleYoda said:



Superfan1984 said:



"...WHAT? Please elaborate I do not have cable! She said he knew he was dying?!!!..."





"...Yes, she said she had known for 2 years he was dying & brushed it off as something he'd said along the lines of “I've done all I've come here to do.” & that his fans have only had since April to get over his passing & in another 18 months, we'll be in the same place as she is in terms of her grief.

I thought it came off as rather ignorant, as everyone processes grief differently. It was also somewhat suspect. If she knew he was dying, why did she not act to prevent it?
..."





"...Becasue she DIDN'T know and he gave no details other that his vague nonsense about, “I've done all I've come here to do.” She brushed it off, just as you would have done after all the other cryptic, unbelievable shit Prince has said over the years. He didn't say he was dying and he didn't say what was killing him, if anything. There was no information upon which to act...."





"...Nice one steakfinger! thumbs up!..."






"...Here is another one of more considered interpretations of the sister's cryptic riddle, which I'm favoring right now..."






By Jayme Deerwester , USA TODAY 3:30 p.m. EDT October 6, 2016



"...“I have been preparing for two years, so I knew that it was coming”...



...Though her choice of words may suggest that Nelson was aware of her brother's use of prescription painkillers, drugs never explicitly came up in the interview...



...Instead, her explanation for why she was prepared for his death was that Prince himself seemed to sense the end was near...



...“He said it a couple of years ago: 'I've done everything that I've come to do,' I was crushed for about two years”..."








"...It astounds me how people misinterpret “I've done everything that I've come to do” to mean “I'm terminally ill”...



...I've done everything that I've come to do” could also be interpreted to mean — “I've accepted that the well of brilliantly original musical ideas has finally run dry...



...But hey! If imagining Prince's being terminally ill is what people need to believe to get themselves out of bed in the morning, far be it for me to begrudge them their own spin on the sister's cryptic riddle..."







Very interesting!



You have a real life experience in your past personal history that parallels your "Prince was definitely terminally ill" interpretation.



While I have a real life experience in my past personal history that parallels my "Prince died of a Fentanyl overdose. Period. And in the absence of any scientically verifiable evidence of any other illness, then there was none" interpretation.



It's fascinating how that works. Ain't it?



    “Sometimes People Don't Want To Hear The Truth Because They Don't Want Their Illusions Destroyed” — Friedrich Nietzsche 
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Reply #179 posted 10/06/16 8:32pm

teach49

phatphuk said:

teach49 said:



"...When my dad called me when my mom passed away after an 11-year illness, he simply said “it's over” when I answered the phone. I knew exactly what he meant. (And we had been told she would live for at least a few months longer...but I knew.)..."







Very interesting!



You have a real life experience in your past personal history that parallels your "Prince was definitely terminally ill" interpretation.



While I have a real life experience in my past personal history that parallels my "Prince died of a Fentanyl overdose. Period. And in the absence of any scientically verifiable evidence of any other illness, then there was none" interpretation.



It's fascinating how that works. Ain't it?



Actually, you are incorrect. I have not been a proponent of the "Prince was definitely terminally ill" theory. I never took that line of thinking too seriously (until Tyka's comments, which are consistent with some kind of serious illness, but addiction can be that illness). My argument was nuanced, rather than black and white. I am saying that you are focusing on what Prince told Tyka and that what he told her doesn't mean he had a terminal illness. But others do not think he had an illness because of what he told her, but because of her reaction....being crushed (her words) with grief for two years.

My personal example was an analogy that illustrates how a different interpretation of Tyka's statements is reasonable, even likely. It is simply not reasonable to begin to grieve someone's impending death just because they tell you they have fulfilled their purpose in life. I would call that hysteria, actually, if I told someone I had fulfilled the purpose I felt God had for me, and they were crushed because they thought I was going to die.

And, last, you do not know that he did not have an illness. We have the ME's report, not the full autopsy. Just because you are not in possession of the scientific evidence, doesn't mean it doesn't exist, especially in a case like this where we know, for a fact, we do not have the full report that would include any illnesses. Hell, we don't even know what the tests results were that Dr. S. was delivering to P on that day.

I'm not saying there was an illness or that it killed him. However, an overdose can be the cause of death on that day without an even serious illness being a contributing factor...on that day.

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