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Clinton says Russia is grooming Gabbard to be a third-party candidate

I'm not a fan of Gabbard, and I have no idea what Hillary is thinking, but making these type of accusations without any evidence of such is just not cool.

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Having said that, ...I admit that I have thought dopes like marianne williamson we're plants to make the Dems look like idiots. (not that they need help)

https://www.politico.com/...ias-050991

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in a podcast interview that Russia sees Democratic Rep. Tulsi Gabbard as a potential third-party candidate who could spoil the 2020 presidential election for Democrats.

Clinton, the 2016 Democratic nominee, made the comments on the podcast hosted by David Plouffe, who managed former President Barack Obama’s 2008 campaign. Clinton said that one tool Russians could use to interfere in the 2020 presidential election and aid President Donald Trump is boosting a third-party “spoiler.” While Clinton did not mention Gabbard by name, but she made a clear reference to the Hawaii congresswoman.
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"I’m not making any predictions, but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who’s currently in the Democratic primary and they’re grooming her to be the third-party candidate,” Clinton said in an interview for Plouffe’s Campaign HQ podcast. “She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far and that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up because she’s also a Russian asset.”

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Reply #1 posted 10/18/19 3:14pm

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Truly Russia-gate is the liberal QAnon.
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Reply #2 posted 10/18/19 4:16pm

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https://www.huffpost.com/...fcc31b4a5e

Though Clinton did not name Gabbard, at the fourth Democratic debate in Ohio earlier this week, the congresswoman claimed on stage that The New York Times had called her a Russian asset when, in fact, it had recently reported that she is often discussed by Russia’s state-run media.

“She’s the favorite of the Russians,” said Clinton, who was the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee. “They have a bunch of sites and bots and ways of supporting her so far. And that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not because she’s also a Russian asset.”

Stein later slammed Clinton’s remarks on Twitter, writing that she was “peddling conspiracy theories to justify her failure instead of reflecting on real reasons Dems lost in 2016.”

In a response of her own, Gabbard unleashed a torrent of criticism against Clinton, describing her as “the queen of warmongers” and the “embodiment of corruption,” two attacks that have also been launched by President Donald Trump.

Great! Thank you @HillaryClinton. You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain. From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a ...

... concerted campaign to destroy my reputation. We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you, through your proxies and ...

... powerful allies in the corporate media and war machine, afraid of the threat I pose.

It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me. Don’t cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly.

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Reply #3 posted 10/18/19 4:39pm

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jaawwnn said:

Truly Russia-gate is the liberal QAnon.

Except Russia-gate is real.

"If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."
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Reply #4 posted 10/18/19 6:41pm

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Clinton says Russia is grooming Gabbard to be a third-party candidate.

And???

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Reply #5 posted 10/19/19 2:37am

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13cjk13 said:

jaawwnn said:

Truly Russia-gate is the liberal QAnon.

Except Russia-gate is real.

Epstein and his mates keep proving QAnon right as well though!

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Reply #6 posted 10/19/19 5:25am

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From Jill Stein:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gs...VHkS59p0u5

"In light of the latest slanderous allegations from Hillary Clinton, I challenge her to a debate. It's past time to give the American people the real debate they deserved in 2016, but were denied by the phony DNC/RNC-controlled Commission on Presidential Debates.
It's a shame HRC is peddling conspiracy theories to justify her failure instead of reflecting on real reasons Dems lost in 2016. You can slander progressives as “Russian assets”, but you can't hide the fact that the DNC sabotaged Sanders and elevated Trump to set the stage for Clinton.
Clinton's rant is exhibit A for how the establishment is using the new Cold War to crack down on dissent and feed the war machine. Instead of addressing the crises working people face, they're painting progressives as the enemy. It's as if they're trying to lose to Trump again.
If Clinton really believes all independent campaigns are Russian plots, why isn't she calling for Ranked Choice Voting to make it impossible for evil foreigners to "split the vote"? Until she does, all this Russia hysteria just looks like cynical McCarthyist left-punching."



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Reply #7 posted 10/19/19 6:27am

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jaawwnn said:

13cjk13 said:

Except Russia-gate is real.

Epstein and his mates keep proving QAnon right as well though!

That's hilarious.

"If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."
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Reply #8 posted 10/19/19 6:27am

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From Jill Stein: https://encrypted-tbn0.gs...VHkS59p0u5 "In light of the latest slanderous allegations from Hillary Clinton, I challenge her to a debate. It's past time to give the American people the real debate they deserved in 2016, but were denied by the phony DNC/RNC-controlled Commission on Presidential Debates. It's a shame HRC is peddling conspiracy theories to justify her failure instead of reflecting on real reasons Dems lost in 2016. You can slander progressives as “Russian assets”, but you can't hide the fact that the DNC sabotaged Sanders and elevated Trump to set the stage for Clinton. Clinton's rant is exhibit A for how the establishment is using the new Cold War to crack down on dissent and feed the war machine. Instead of addressing the crises working people face, they're painting progressives as the enemy. It's as if they're trying to lose to Trump again. If Clinton really believes all independent campaigns are Russian plots, why isn't she calling for Ranked Choice Voting to make it impossible for evil foreigners to "split the vote"? Until she does, all this Russia hysteria just looks like cynical McCarthyist left-punching." https://encrypted-tbn0.gs...VHkS59p0u5 . [Edited 10/19/19 5:56am]

Jill Stein needs to take her stolen "recount" money and disappear back to Russia.

"If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."
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Reply #9 posted 10/19/19 7:44am

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I have said for years that Russia's interferance was intened to hurt Trump or at the very least cause discord. We KNOW the dems fell for the latter.


No one is coming for your abortion: they just want common-sense abortion regulations: background checks, waiting periods, lifetime limits, take a class, and a small tax.
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Reply #10 posted 10/19/19 7:47am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

I have said for years that Russia's interferance was intened to hurt Trump or at the very least cause discord. We KNOW the dems fell for the latter.




And of course, as always, you were proven wrong.
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Reply #11 posted 10/19/19 7:55am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

I have said for years that Russia's interferance was intened to hurt Trump or at the very least cause discord. We KNOW the dems fell for the latter.



And please fix the typos in your Elijah Cummings memorial thread. Considering you rushed to post what a dedicated public servant he was.

Breakinbg: Rep. Elijah Cummings dies at age 68

He was a dedicated public servan public servant. RIP.

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Reply #12 posted 10/19/19 7:57am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I have said for years that Russia's interferance was intened to hurt Trump or at the very least cause discord. We KNOW the dems fell for the latter.


And of course, as always, you were proven wrong.

not at all... we know the Russian dossier was made up in league by Hillary's people to hurt Trump and Russia did make up lies (such as nude photos of Trump which that FOOL Adam Schiff totally fell for and ASKED for copies... and that lie is still being told by the left...

you got TOOK! You got Bamboozled! You Got Run Amuck! You got Lead Astray! Haha... you did what Vlad wanted you to do!


and the best part is You WANT a government more like RUSSIA and less like what we have.... but because you fell for a lie... you use it against trump?

Same with the Biden thing... you want trump impeached for following a treaty to re-open a case that was closed when Joe (who admitted to such) used a billion dollars to end.

No one is coming for your abortion: they just want common-sense abortion regulations: background checks, waiting periods, lifetime limits, take a class, and a small tax.
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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

OnlyNDaUsa said: And of course, as always, you were proven wrong.

not at all... we know the Russian dossier was made up in league by Hillary's people to hurt Trump and Russia did make up lies (such as nude photos of Trump which that FOOL Adam Schiff totally fell for and ASKED for copies... and that lie is still being told by the left...

you got TOOK! You got Bamboozled! You Got Run Amuck! You got Lead Astray! Haha... you did what Vlad wanted you to do!


and the best part is You WANT a government more like RUSSIA and less like what we have.... but because you fell for a lie... you use it against trump?

Same with the Biden thing... you want trump impeached for following a treaty to re-open a case that was closed when Joe (who admitted to such) used a billion dollars to end.

You get your news from Fox News lol

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Reply #14 posted 10/19/19 8:24am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

not at all... we know the Russian dossier was made up in league by Hillary's people to hurt Trump and Russia did make up lies (such as nude photos of Trump which that FOOL Adam Schiff totally fell for and ASKED for copies... and that lie is still being told by the left...

you got TOOK! You got Bamboozled! You Got Run Amuck! You got Lead Astray! Haha... you did what Vlad wanted you to do!


and the best part is You WANT a government more like RUSSIA and less like what we have.... but because you fell for a lie... you use it against trump?

Same with the Biden thing... you want trump impeached for following a treaty to re-open a case that was closed when Joe (who admitted to such) used a billion dollars to end.

You get your news from Fox News lol

nope I do not watch it... with the exception of events like election night or s speech then i go between fox and cnn... you making up that falsehood (as others have) don't make it true... I would not call you a liar but you are making up an unfounded and untrue statement in order to diminish or dismiss my opinion.... and all to cover that--whether you grasp it or not---you were fooled.

No one is coming for your abortion: they just want common-sense abortion regulations: background checks, waiting periods, lifetime limits, take a class, and a small tax.
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Reply #15 posted 10/19/19 8:58am

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Russia clearly just wanted to sow a bit of discord and cause some chaos, they wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't interfere in some way. Everything else is partisan nonsense, Russia don't care who wins as long as both parties are tearing each other apart with conspiracy theories. See also: CIA record of interference around the globe.
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Reply #16 posted 10/19/19 9:08am

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jaawwnn said:

Russia clearly just wanted to sow a bit of discord and cause some chaos, they wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't interfere in some way. Everything else is partisan nonsense, Russia don't care who wins as long as both parties are tearing each other apart with conspiracy theories. See also: CIA record of interference around the globe.

if nothing else that...

No one is coming for your abortion: they just want common-sense abortion regulations: background checks, waiting periods, lifetime limits, take a class, and a small tax.
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Reply #17 posted 10/19/19 9:09am

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jaawwnn said:

Russia clearly just wanted to sow a bit of discord and cause some chaos, they wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't interfere in some way. Everything else is partisan nonsense, Russia don't care who wins as long as both parties are tearing each other apart with conspiracy theories. See also: CIA record of interference around the globe.


Agree with all that. But that doesn't mean it is lawful. ..just because everyone does it.

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Reply #18 posted 10/19/19 9:29am

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Just goes to show that Tulsi is the real deal. The establishment is afraid of her telling the truth. What a fucking laughable statement by Clinton. She is as bad as Trump and is showing why she wasn’t trusted enough to win in 2016.
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Reply #19 posted 10/19/19 9:51am

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nd33 said:

Just goes to show that Tulsi is the real deal. The establishment is afraid of her telling the truth. What a fucking laughable statement by Clinton. She is as bad as Trump and is showing why she wasn’t trusted enough to win in 2016.

i think tulsi is garbage (policy wise) but not as bad as liz or sanders or joe that racist beto... and yes there is nothing on trump that can not be said about hillary NOT ONE THING... there is however...pleanty to say bad about her that you can not say about trump....(and yes she had many violations of federal law with her emails...if that was anyone else they would have done life)

No one is coming for your abortion: they just want common-sense abortion regulations: background checks, waiting periods, lifetime limits, take a class, and a small tax.
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Reply #20 posted 10/19/19 10:10am

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Well, when I type Tulsi on google, it auto fills "russian stooge' lol

She didn't help her case by repeating it herself during the debate.
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Sadly this will hang over her always.

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Reply #21 posted 10/19/19 10:29am

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Gasp, maybe Hillary should have her vocal chords removed, LOL, she's the antichrist. Whether she should have said it or not, Tulsi is a schill, nothing new here.

Hillary Clinton Cleared of Mishandling Classified Information After 3-Year Private Email Probe, Trump So Far Silent

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Reply #22 posted 10/19/19 10:52am

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poppys said:

Gasp, maybe Hillary should have her vocal chords removed, LOL, she's the antichrist. Whether she should have said it or not, Tulsi is a schill, nothing new here.

Hillary Clinton Cleared of Mishandling Classified Information After 3-Year Private Email Probe, Trump So Far Silent

Remember, facts and the truth mean absolutely NOTHING to the pig squatting in the white house. He'll just keep vomiting lies about her guilt to the slobs that worship him at his pathetic rallies.

"If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."
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Reply #23 posted 10/19/19 11:14am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:



jaawwnn said:


Russia clearly just wanted to sow a bit of discord and cause some chaos, they wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't interfere in some way. Everything else is partisan nonsense, Russia don't care who wins as long as both parties are tearing each other apart with conspiracy theories. See also: CIA record of interference around the globe.


Agree with all that. But that doesn't mean it is lawful. ..just because everyone does it.


No of course not! And even if it's lawful it doesn't mean its ok, I'm just not convinced Russia has the power to cause that much of a difference to your elections, the US is literally the most technologically advanced country on the planet, Russia's main export is crazy dashcam videos. I'd still argue Clinton lost because she was massively unpopular (as was Trump for that matter).
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OnlyNDaUsa said:



nd33 said:


Just goes to show that Tulsi is the real deal. The establishment is afraid of her telling the truth. What a fucking laughable statement by Clinton. She is as bad as Trump and is showing why she wasn’t trusted enough to win in 2016.



i think tulsi is garbage (policy wise) but not as bad as liz or sanders or joe that racist beto... and yes there is nothing on trump that can not be said about hillary NOT ONE THING... there is however...pleanty to say bad about her that you can not say about trump....(and yes she had many violations of federal law with her emails...if that was anyone else they would have done life)


What? That trump is a lowdown crook, liar, insecure, weak, a man child and a racist. Yep...solidly defines him. That is all.
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Reply #25 posted 10/19/19 1:36pm

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13cjk13 said:

poppys said:

Gasp, maybe Hillary should have her vocal chords removed, LOL, she's the antichrist. Whether she should have said it or not, Tulsi is a schill, nothing new here.

Hillary Clinton Cleared of Mishandling Classified Information After 3-Year Private Email Probe, Trump So Far Silent

Remember, facts and the truth mean absolutely NOTHING to the pig squatting in the white house. He'll just keep vomiting lies about her guilt to the slobs that worship him at his pathetic rallies.


"and yes there is nothing on trump that can not be said about hillary NOT ONE THING... there is however...pleanty to say bad about her that you can not say about trump....(and yes she had many violations of federal law with her emails...if that was anyone else they would have done life)"

falloff

And yet after 3 years, Republican Senator Chuck GrASSley found "no persuasive evidence of systemic, deliberate mishandling of classified information."

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Reply #26 posted 10/19/19 4:43pm

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Trump and Hillary are probably somewhere on Richard Bransons island or Diego Garcia laughing it up as the peasants fight amongst themselves.





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Reply #27 posted 10/19/19 5:38pm

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13cjk13 said:



jaawwnn said:




13cjk13 said:



Except Russia-gate is real.



Epstein and his mates keep proving QAnon right as well though!



That's hilarious.




Qanon appear to be a disingenuous group that are only politically motivated.
Qanon only focus on predators that don't agree with thier political ideology and agenda.
Conveniently in the world of Qanon sexual predators are only those who don't support the Republican party.
That is a ridiculous premise.
Sexual predators span the political spectrum and can even be of any gender or sex.


https://www.vice.com/en_a...ile-island

FBI agents descended upon Jeffrey Epstein’s private, Caribbean estate, dubbed locally “pedophile Island,” just two days after the accused child sex trafficker appears to have hanged himself in a Manhattan jail cell.


https://en.m.wikipedia.or...anizations

Ipce (formerly International Pedophile and Child Emancipation, changed its name in 1998 to disassociate with the full name). Founded in the early 1990s; in 2005, it had 79 members in 20 countries. The organization's website is available in English, French, German, and Spanish.


Since paedophhila and rape is about control and having power over others im sure that's why there are many elites who are involved.
However a desire for control and power over others doesn't only apply to elites.
All these people involved have a shared interest and they will stick together when it comes to this one issue.

Sometimes you have to laugh to keep from crying.




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“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #28 posted 10/19/19 7:42pm

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Ive always supported Hillary, but this is just too low. I don't think I can support or defend Hillary in anything any more.

She's done in my book unless she can offer something solid that supports such accusations.

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Reply #29 posted 10/20/19 1:51am

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hausofmoi7 said:

13cjk13 said:



jaawwnn said:




13cjk13 said:



Except Russia-gate is real.



Epstein and his mates keep proving QAnon right as well though!



That's hilarious.




Qanon appear to be a disingenuous group that are only politically motivated.
Qanon only focus on predators that don't agree with thier political ideology and agenda.
Conveniently in the world of Qanon sexual predators are only those who don't support the Republican party.
That is a ridiculous premise.
Sexual predators span the political spectrum and can even be of any gender or sex.


https://www.vice.com/en_a...ile-island

FBI agents descended upon Jeffrey Epstein’s private, Caribbean estate, dubbed locally “pedophile Island,” just two days after the accused child sex trafficker appears to have hanged himself in a Manhattan jail cell.


https://en.m.wikipedia.or...anizations

Ipce (formerly International Pedophile and Child Emancipation, changed its name in 1998 to disassociate with the full name). Founded in the early 1990s; in 2005, it had 79 members in 20 countries. The organization's website is available in English, French, German, and Spanish.


Since paedophhila and rape is about control and having power over others im sure that's why there are many elites who are involved.
However a desire for control and power over others doesn't only apply to elites.
All these people involved have a shared interest and they will stick together when it comes to this one issue.

Sometimes you have to laugh to keep from crying.




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You do realize i was kidding? Qanon and Russiagate are not the same in substance in the slightest, although supporters of both theories do react in a similar conspiratorial way where they use their pet theory as their answer to everything.
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