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Reply #180 posted 09/30/19 4:59pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Toejam, what is awareness and how do you know you are aware? You become aware because God thinks humans are special.

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I trust you and I have a similar enough shared understanding of the terms 'aware' / 'awareness' that we don't need to waste time articulating our own definitions. I'll roll with whatever the standard dictionaries supply and how I understand the word generally functioning amongst English speakers.
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I know I'm aware because I perceive myself to be. I think therefore I am, etc. My awareness is contingent on my brain, it seems. I know there are times in my life when my sense of awareness fluctuates between the barely aware (slowly waking up in the morning) to the very aware (normally around 10am, after a good-but-not-too-filling breakfast and a coffee). There are times when I'm in a deep sleep and I don't think I'm aware at all.

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I don't see good reasons to think that a god exists, let alone further good reasons to conclude that a god must think humans are special, let alone why this hypothetical god's thinking humans are special necessitates him making us aware, nor how this would even function as a satisfying explanation for how we are aware when it doesn't actually get into the nitty gritty of the how a God made us aware. Did God just wake up one day and think "Wow. I think those humans are special. Awareness NOW!" lightning and then we were aware? How does that work?

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Reply #181 posted 10/03/19 4:23am

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IanRG said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

cherry piking is one thing it is when you spit the pits out at some people for some 'sins' but excuse other people for theirs.

Seems a person obsessed with any particular issue may either be guilty of or the victim of that 'offence.'

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On those terms, I absolutely agree.

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But I am not looking at reinstating the types of slavery and rules of war from the past lest I be accused of cherry picking.

right. but there is a diffrence between that and actualy citieng the same passage you violate on the regulat... like a person with tattos ( Leviticus 19:28) calling out gay people.

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Reply #182 posted 10/03/19 1:31pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

IanRG said:

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On those terms, I absolutely agree.

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But I am not looking at reinstating the types of slavery and rules of war from the past lest I be accused of cherry picking.

right. but there is a diffrence between that and actualy citieng the same passage you violate on the regulat... like a person with tattos ( Leviticus 19:28) calling out gay people.

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It is quite likely that anyone who uses Leviticus to seek to judge other people in the 21st century has missed the point of Jesus' actions 2000 years ago and of his teachings.

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Reply #183 posted 10/03/19 3:21pm

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IanRG said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

right. but there is a difference between that and actually citing the same passage you violate on the regulat... like a person with tattos ( Leviticus 19:28) calling out gay people.

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It is quite likely that anyone who uses Leviticus to seek to judge other people in the 21st century has missed the point of Jesus' actions 2000 years ago and of his teachings.

Which was my point... Leviticus has some gems like do not have sex with your mother because she's married to your dad...

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