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DiminutiveRock
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Mueller subpeonaed to Testify Before Congress

RSM III didn't want to do it, but they are calling him in anyway

BREAKING NEWS

Robert S. Mueller III, th...n July 17.

Tuesday, June 25, 2019 9:20 PM EST

Two House committees issued subpoenas to compel his appearance, setting up a must-see hearing that could reshape the political landscape around Donald J. Trump’s presidency.

"'Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.'' - Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #1 posted 06/26/19 4:46am

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Can't wait.

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Reply #2 posted 06/26/19 5:32am

Musicslave

I'm glad he's testifying but I'm not expecting much.

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Reply #3 posted 06/26/19 5:34am

poppys

Hate to say it, but I think at this point, it's a wash. At least we have the report. Could be helpful in the future.

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Reply #4 posted 06/26/19 6:13am

Musicslave

poppys said:

Hate to say it, but I think at this point, it's a wash. At least we have the report. Could be helpful in the future.

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Mueller's attempt to keep himself above the political fray was futile. trump had already politicized him and the investigation without him saying one word or writing one sentence in the report. There was no way around it.

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I think Mueller might have under estimated his longtime friend, now Attorney General Barr (excuse me, pres. trump's attorney). I think he expected Congress to collect the crumbs that he left and pursue without his involvement. I'm not sure if he anticipated republican senators to be so embedded with trump.

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Mueller applied a "by the book" investigation, while team trump anticipated that and played dirty politics.

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We'll see if his testimony will make a difference in anything or not. I think overall, people are mostly ready to just vote already.

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Reply #5 posted 06/26/19 7:06am

poppys

Musicslave said:

poppys said:

Hate to say it, but I think at this point, it's a wash. At least we have the report. Could be helpful in the future.

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Mueller's attempt to keep himself above the political fray was futile. trump had already politicized him and the investigation without him saying one word or writing one sentence in the report. There was no way around it.

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I think Mueller might have under estimated his longtime friend, now Attorney General Barr (excuse me, pres. trump's attorney). I think he expected Congress to collect the crumbs that he left and pursue without his involvement. I'm not sure if he anticipated republican senators to be so embedded with trump.

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Mueller applied a "by the book" investigation, while team trump anticipated that and played dirty politics.

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We'll see if his testimony will make a difference in anything or not. I think overall, people are mostly ready to just vote already.


Totally agree with your assessment, Musicslave. Mueller probably figured that out, especially about Barr and the Trump embeds. I guess it will put a period at the end of all this, but having to subpoena Mueller to testify is not encouraging. As you said, they beat him and moved on before the report was even available to read.

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Reply #6 posted 06/26/19 7:33am

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Musicslave said:

poppys said:

Hate to say it, but I think at this point, it's a wash. At least we have the report. Could be helpful in the future.

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Mueller's attempt to keep himself above the political fray was futile. trump had already politicized him and the investigation without him saying one word or writing one sentence in the report. There was no way around it.

-

I think Mueller might have under estimated his longtime friend, now Attorney General Barr (excuse me, pres. trump's attorney). I think he expected Congress to collect the crumbs that he left and pursue without his involvement. I'm not sure if he anticipated republican senators to be so embedded with trump.

-

Mueller applied a "by the book" investigation, while team trump anticipated that and played dirty politics.

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We'll see if his testimony will make a difference in anything or not. I think overall, people are mostly ready to just vote already.



I think you're right. Mueller made the same mistake that President Obama made - assuming Republicans have the country's best interests at heart.

But Mueller HAS to know by now that he was played by his own GOP. Hopefully he has woken up and knows that this is his one, only and last chance to do the right thing.

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Reply #7 posted 06/26/19 7:53am

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RodeoSchro said:

Musicslave said:

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Mueller's attempt to keep himself above the political fray was futile. trump had already politicized him and the investigation without him saying one word or writing one sentence in the report. There was no way around it.

-

I think Mueller might have under estimated his longtime friend, now Attorney General Barr (excuse me, pres. trump's attorney). I think he expected Congress to collect the crumbs that he left and pursue without his involvement. I'm not sure if he anticipated republican senators to be so embedded with trump.

-

Mueller applied a "by the book" investigation, while team trump anticipated that and played dirty politics.

-

We'll see if his testimony will make a difference in anything or not. I think overall, people are mostly ready to just vote already.



I think you're right. Mueller made the same mistake that President Obama made - assuming Republicans have the country's best interests at heart.

But Mueller HAS to know by now that he was played by his own GOP. Hopefully he has woken up and knows that this is his one, only and last chance to do the right thing.


Mueller just wanted to present the facts (the report). Now I think he is going to be asked for his own assessment and he was trying to avoid that, but it is inevitable.

"'Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.'' - Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #8 posted 06/26/19 7:57am

Musicslave

RodeoSchro said:

Musicslave said:

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Mueller's attempt to keep himself above the political fray was futile. trump had already politicized him and the investigation without him saying one word or writing one sentence in the report. There was no way around it.

-

I think Mueller might have under estimated his longtime friend, now Attorney General Barr (excuse me, pres. trump's attorney). I think he expected Congress to collect the crumbs that he left and pursue without his involvement. I'm not sure if he anticipated republican senators to be so embedded with trump.

-

Mueller applied a "by the book" investigation, while team trump anticipated that and played dirty politics.

-

We'll see if his testimony will make a difference in anything or not. I think overall, people are mostly ready to just vote already.



I think you're right. Mueller made the same mistake that President Obama made - assuming Republicans have the country's best interests at heart.

But Mueller HAS to know by now that he was played by his own GOP. Hopefully he has woken up and knows that this is his one, only and last chance to do the right thing.

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What is the right thing?

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Reply #9 posted 06/26/19 7:59am

DiminutiveRock
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Musicslave said:

RodeoSchro said:



I think you're right. Mueller made the same mistake that President Obama made - assuming Republicans have the country's best interests at heart.

But Mueller HAS to know by now that he was played by his own GOP. Hopefully he has woken up and knows that this is his one, only and last chance to do the right thing.

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What is the right thing?

His professional assessment? I think they (Congress) want him to say that the president broke the law.

"'Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.'' - Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #10 posted 06/26/19 8:01am

Musicslave

DiminutiveRocker said:

RodeoSchro said:



I think you're right. Mueller made the same mistake that President Obama made - assuming Republicans have the country's best interests at heart.

But Mueller HAS to know by now that he was played by his own GOP. Hopefully he has woken up and knows that this is his one, only and last chance to do the right thing.


Mueller just wanted to present the facts (the report). Now I think he is going to be asked for his own assessment and he was trying to avoid that, but it is inevitable.

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Like I said in a previous thread. It's not Mueller's fault that the president obstructed justice.

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Reply #11 posted 06/26/19 8:08am

DiminutiveRock
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Musicslave said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


Mueller just wanted to present the facts (the report). Now I think he is going to be asked for his own assessment and he was trying to avoid that, but it is inevitable.

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Like I said in a previous thread. It's not Mueller's fault that the president obstructed justice.


Um... Ok lol I think that Mueller wants Congress to assess the facts and make the pronouncement that Orange obstructed justice and take action if they so choose to pursue.

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Reply #12 posted 06/26/19 8:08am

Musicslave

poppys said:

Musicslave said:

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Mueller's attempt to keep himself above the political fray was futile. trump had already politicized him and the investigation without him saying one word or writing one sentence in the report. There was no way around it.

-

I think Mueller might have under estimated his longtime friend, now Attorney General Barr (excuse me, pres. trump's attorney). I think he expected Congress to collect the crumbs that he left and pursue without his involvement. I'm not sure if he anticipated republican senators to be so embedded with trump.

-

Mueller applied a "by the book" investigation, while team trump anticipated that and played dirty politics.

-

We'll see if his testimony will make a difference in anything or not. I think overall, people are mostly ready to just vote already.


Totally agree with your assessment, Musicslave. Mueller probably figured that out, especially about Barr and the Trump embeds. I guess it will put a period at the end of all this, but having to subpoena Mueller to testify is not encouraging. As you said, they beat him and moved on before the report was even available to read.

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Smart move for whomever came up with that one! I know trump didn't think of it. lol

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I hope Mueller doesn't leave anymore voids only for the people from trumptopia to fill and control the narrative.

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Reply #13 posted 06/26/19 8:09am

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Popcorn time.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #14 posted 06/26/19 8:10am

Musicslave

DiminutiveRocker said:

Musicslave said:

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Like I said in a previous thread. It's not Mueller's fault that the president obstructed justice.


Um... Ok lol I think that Mueller wants Congress to assess the facts and make the pronouncement that Orange obstructed justice and take action if they so choose to pursue.

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Right. Basically, he wants Congress to do their jobs. lol

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Reply #15 posted 06/26/19 8:10am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

Musicslave said:

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What is the right thing?

His professional assessment? I think they (Congress) want him to say that the president broke the law.



Yes, or at least say that in his opinion, unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump committed obstruction of justice multiple times, as well as other high crimes and misdemeanors (lying about Russian meeting; being a Russian operative; etc.).

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Reply #16 posted 06/26/19 8:11am

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Interesting how Republicans even question him.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #17 posted 06/26/19 8:12am

Musicslave

2freaky4church1 said:

Popcorn time.

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We'll see. If there's any fireworks it will come from both sides being frustrated with Mueller answers non-answers. lol

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Reply #18 posted 06/26/19 8:14am

DiminutiveRock
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RodeoSchro said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

His professional assessment? I think they (Congress) want him to say that the president broke the law.



Yes, or at least say that in his opinion, unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump committed obstruction of justice multiple times, as well as other high crimes and misdemeanors (lying about Russian meeting; being a Russian operative; etc.).



yeahthat nod

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Reply #19 posted 06/26/19 8:15am

Musicslave

RodeoSchro said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

His professional assessment? I think they (Congress) want him to say that the president broke the law.



Yes, or at least say that in his opinion, unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump committed obstruction of justice multiple times, as well as other high crimes and misdemeanors (lying about Russian meeting; being a Russian operative; etc.).

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That would be nice. I'm just not holding my breath. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised though.

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Reply #20 posted 06/26/19 8:52am

poppys

Musicslave said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Popcorn time.

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We'll see. If there's any fireworks it will come from both sides being frustrated with Mueller answers non-answers. lol


It'll be old stale popcorn. Just fulfilling the subpoena he never wanted, I imagine.

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Reply #21 posted 06/27/19 4:46am

DiminutiveRock
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poppys said:

Musicslave said:

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We'll see. If there's any fireworks it will come from both sides being frustrated with Mueller answers non-answers. lol


It'll be old stale popcorn. Just fulfilling the subpoena he never wanted, I imagine.



It will all depend on the questions he gets asked..... popcorn

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Reply #22 posted 06/27/19 5:56am

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I think this will harm the democrats...

Being a die-hard civil rights champion,
Being a die-hard libertarian,
Sometimes I have to defend
that which I find distasteful.
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Reply #23 posted 06/27/19 7:25am

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You hope.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #24 posted 06/27/19 8:39am

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2freaky4church1 said:

You hope.

if there is justice it will. the whole thing was a poltical hit by team hillary...

Being a die-hard civil rights champion,
Being a die-hard libertarian,
Sometimes I have to defend
that which I find distasteful.
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Reply #25 posted 06/27/19 9:18am

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Musicslave said:

I'm glad he's testifying but I'm not expecting much.


Same

Persistent Turd is the shit.
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Reply #26 posted 06/27/19 9:19am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

I think this will harm the democrats...

nawwwwwww

Anytime we get the nation to focus is good.

Persistent Turd is the shit.
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Reply #27 posted 06/27/19 9:42am

Musicslave

OnlyNDaUsa said:

2freaky4church1 said:

You hope.

if there is justice it will. the whole thing was a poltical hit by team hillary...

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So if Barack Obama or Bill Clinton had the support of a foreign government the same way the trump campaign did, you wouldn't have a problem with it?

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Reply #28 posted 06/27/19 9:50am

Musicslave

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Musicslave said:

I'm glad he's testifying but I'm not expecting much.


Same

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I'm just hoping he can at the least correct the record about his investigation. Maybe he can get some good questions that will force him to expose some of the ugly truths he found to the American people.

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But he's not going to go after the sitting president directly. They are going to have to be deliberate and skillful in what they ask him.

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Reply #29 posted 06/27/19 10:15am

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Musicslave said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:


Same

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I'm just hoping he can at the least correct the record about his investigation. Maybe he can get some good questions that will force him to expose some of the ugly truths he found to the American people.

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But he's not going to go after the sitting president directly. They are going to have to be deliberate and skillful in what they ask him.

Exactly.

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