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Reply #30 posted 05/21/19 1:30pm

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John Kerry went from anti-Vietnam war veteran to advocating for the Iraq War.
Maddow and Trump both went from anti- war positions to both being war mongers.
Both launched thier political careers on anti-war position.
Both are now advocating for war with either Iran or Venezuela.
Both trump and Maddow were personally approved of and promoted by Rupert Murdoch.



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“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #31 posted 05/21/19 1:36pm

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hausofmoi7 said:

John Kerry went from anti-Vietnam war veteran to advocating for the Iraq War. Maddow and Trump both went from anti- war positions to being war mongers. Both launched thier political careers off this anti-war position. Both are now advocating for war with either Iran or Venezuela.



Wait a second. John Kerry became anti-Vietnam after actually fighting in that war. He "advocated" for the Iraq War because he - as well as many other foolish Democrats - trusted President George W. Bush and his interpretation of flawed intel. All of them to my knowledge have admitted that they should not have trusted Bush, Cheney and all those other Republican pussies.

I am not aware of John Kerry or Rachel Maddow advocating war with either Iran or Venezuela.

As noted above, unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump is a pussy, as is his National Security Advisor John Bolton. Both of those pussies most certainly have issues in the bedroom and think that killing people will make them real men.

They will never be real men.

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Reply #32 posted 05/21/19 1:53pm

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RodeoSchro said:



hausofmoi7 said:


John Kerry went from anti-Vietnam war veteran to advocating for the Iraq War. Maddow and Trump both went from anti- war positions to being war mongers. Both launched thier political careers off this anti-war position. Both are now advocating for war with either Iran or Venezuela.



Wait a second. John Kerry became anti-Vietnam after actually fighting in that war. He "advocated" for the Iraq War because he - as well as many other foolish Democrats - trusted President George W. Bush and his interpretation of flawed intel. All of them to my knowledge have admitted that they should not have trusted Bush, Cheney and all those other Republican pussies.

I am not aware of John Kerry or Rachel Maddow advocating war with either Iran or Venezuela.

As noted above, unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump is a pussy, as is his National Security Advisor John Bolton. Both of those pussies most certainly have issues in the bedroom and think that killing people will make them real men.

They will never be real men.



Rachel Maddow said John Bolton’s past should be forgotten and that everyone should listen to him about Venezuela.
I was never really familiar with Rachel Maddow, i have heard others mention her before (a neo-liberal Alex Jones I’ve been told)
Anyway, now I totally get it.

Rachel Maddow is shitting all over the bolivarian revolution for John Bolton.
I assumed there was a reason why Fox News hand picked her to be the token lefty.





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“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #33 posted 05/21/19 2:02pm

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hausofmoi7 said:

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Many anti- Vietnam war activists went on to be Iraq war criminals. Many Anti-Iraq war activists are now leading pro-Venezuela and Iran war mongers. It’s a cycle and it’s a very lucrative one.

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IanRG said:

It's a claim and it's a very unsubstantiated one.

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Who are these "Many" Anti-Iraq war activists who are now leading Iran war mongers? Name some people that directly profited from being anti the Iraq war after the event that are now seeking to go to war with Iran. I am not saying they don't exist but if you can do this then people will have an idea about what you are talking about.

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hausofmoi7 said:

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I’m not the one that is projecting though. I can’t answer questions that I didn’t even ask.

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John Kerry went from anti-Vietnam war veteran to advocating for the Iraq War. Maddow and Trump both went from anti- war positions to both being war mongers. Both launched thier political careers on anti-war position. Both are now advocating for war with either Iran or Venezuela. Both trump and Maddow were personally approved of and promoted by Rupert Murdoch. . [Edited 5/21/19 13:39pm]

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Your first response was, what? just to buy time to think? It is an nonsense answer. Read it: YOU can't answer questions YOU didn't even ask! And then YOU actually do answer the question I asked!! With anyone else I would not need to point out that the normal process is a person asks a question and the other person answers it. It would be a very boring site if all it was was you asking questions of yourself.

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Then you answer the question I asked you. But even here you get it wrong.

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- Kerry did not make money from being pro war with Iraq.

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- Trump will not not make money from being pro war with Iran. He did not become President on the back of an anti-Iraq war position. He made on a fabricated image, a TV show and by building up a base of racist birthers.

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And the topic, yet again, is not about your projections about Venezuela.

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Reply #34 posted 05/21/19 2:15pm

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IanRG said:





hausofmoi7 said:


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Many anti- Vietnam war activists went on to be Iraq war criminals. Many Anti-Iraq war activists are now leading pro-Venezuela and Iran war mongers. It’s a cycle and it’s a very lucrative one.



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IanRG said:


It's a claim and it's a very unsubstantiated one.


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Who are these "Many" Anti-Iraq war activists who are now leading Iran war mongers? Name some people that directly profited from being anti the Iraq war after the event that are now seeking to go to war with Iran. I am not saying they don't exist but if you can do this then people will have an idea about what you are talking about.



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hausofmoi7 said:


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I’m not the one that is projecting though. I can’t answer questions that I didn’t even ask.


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John Kerry went from anti-Vietnam war veteran to advocating for the Iraq War. Maddow and Trump both went from anti- war positions to both being war mongers. Both launched thier political careers on anti-war position. Both are now advocating for war with either Iran or Venezuela. Both trump and Maddow were personally approved of and promoted by Rupert Murdoch. . [Edited 5/21/19 13:39pm]



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Your first response was, what? just to buy time to think? It is an nonsense answer. Read it: YOU can't answer questions YOU didn't even ask! And then YOU actually do answer the question I asked!! With anyone else I would not need to point out that the normal process is a person asks a question and the other person answers it. It would be a very boring site if all it was was you asking questions of yourself.


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Then you answer the question I asked you. But even here you get it wrong.


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- Kerry did not make money from being pro war with Iraq.


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- Trump will not not make money from being pro war with Iran. He did not become President on the back of an anti-Iraq war position. He made on a fabricated image, a TV show and by building up a base of racist birthers.


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And the topic, yet again, is not about your projections about Venezuela.


You just cut and pasted two seperate replies together.
You didn’t mention that above.
You do this all the time, you have zero credibility at this point.
You’re a mess.

I wasn’t talking about anyone on this site.

I didn’t reply to your question at all!
You just copied at seperate reply that wasn’t even addressing you or anyone on this site. You tried to insert yourself.
Nice try

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Reply #35 posted 05/21/19 2:37pm

IanRG

hausofmoi7 said:

IanRG said:

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Your first response was, what? just to buy time to think? It is an nonsense answer. Read it: YOU can't answer questions YOU didn't even ask! And then YOU actually do answer the question I asked!! With anyone else I would not need to point out that the normal process is a person asks a question and the other person answers it. It would be a very boring site if all it was was you asking questions of yourself.

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Then you answer the question I asked you. But even here you get it wrong.

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- Kerry did not make money from being pro war with Iraq.

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- Trump will not not make money from being pro war with Iran. He did not become President on the back of an anti-Iraq war position. He made on a fabricated image, a TV show and by building up a base of racist birthers.

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And the topic, yet again, is not about your projections about Venezuela.

You just cut and pasted two seperate replies together. You didn’t mention that above. You do this all the time, you have zero credibility at this point. You’re a mess. I wasn’t talking about anyone on this site. Anyone who thinks I was talking about them is projecting. . [Edited 5/21/19 14:21pm]

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Yes, I did join two posts. I showed that I did by putting space between them and by openly stating I did by starting my response with "YOUR FIRST RESPONSE WAS...".

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You can pretend that you were not answering me, but the second post directly answered what I asked you.

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You need to look up what projecting means.

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So, back to the topic: You said the switch between being anti-war after the event to being pro war later is lucrative: How much money will Trump make from being pro a war with Iran?

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Reply #36 posted 05/21/19 2:48pm

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IanRG said:



hausofmoi7 said:


IanRG said:


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Your first response was, what? just to buy time to think? It is an nonsense answer. Read it: YOU can't answer questions YOU didn't even ask! And then YOU actually do answer the question I asked!! With anyone else I would not need to point out that the normal process is a person asks a question and the other person answers it. It would be a very boring site if all it was was you asking questions of yourself.


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Then you answer the question I asked you. But even here you get it wrong.


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- Kerry did not make money from being pro war with Iraq.


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- Trump will not not make money from being pro war with Iran. He did not become President on the back of an anti-Iraq war position. He made on a fabricated image, a TV show and by building up a base of racist birthers.


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And the topic, yet again, is not about your projections about Venezuela.



You just cut and pasted two seperate replies together. You didn’t mention that above. You do this all the time, you have zero credibility at this point. You’re a mess. I wasn’t talking about anyone on this site. Anyone who thinks I was talking about them is projecting. . [Edited 5/21/19 14:21pm]

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Yes, I did join two posts. I showed that I did by putting space between them and by openly stating I did by starting my response with "YOUR FIRST RESPONSE WAS...".


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You can pretend that you were not answering me, but the second post directly answered what I asked you.


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You need to look up what projecting means.


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So, back to the topic: You said the switch between being anti-war after the event to being pro war later is lucrative: How much money will Trump make from being pro a war with Iran?


Ian, that is an awfully convoluted way of admitting you lied.

I’m already discussing th with others in this debate.
You can keep trying to desperately fabricate responses to yourself but I’m not talking to you.
Not because you are a vicious serial liar, mostly because you are not very good at this.

Others on here share your perspective, I’m engaging with them.


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“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #37 posted 05/21/19 3:03pm

IanRG

hausofmoi7 said:

IanRG said:

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Yes, I did join two posts. I showed that I did by putting space between them and by openly stating I did by starting my response with "YOUR FIRST RESPONSE WAS...".

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You can pretend that you were not answering me, but the second post directly answered what I asked you.

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You need to look up what projecting means.

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So, back to the topic: You said the switch between being anti-war after the event to being pro war later is lucrative: How much money will Trump make from being pro a war with Iran?

Ian, that is an awfully convoluted way of admitting you lied. . [Edited 5/21/19 14:50pm]

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No. There is no lie by me, the dishonesty is elsewhere. It is not convoluted - I started with "YOUR FIRST RESPONSE WAS..."

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You need to look up what lied means

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So, back to the topic: You said the switch between being anti-war after the event to being pro-war later is lucrative for many people. When asked who these many people you imagine are, you could not answer at first then listed Kerry, Trump and Madden.

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Kerry did not make money from Vietnam and then from mistakenly believing the Iraq war was necessary because they had weapons of mass destruction.

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Trump did not make money from his position on the war with Iraq and will not make money by promoting a war with Iran.

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Madden will not make money from seeking an end to the terrible situation in Venezuela.

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Reply #38 posted 05/21/19 3:11pm

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IanRG said:



hausofmoi7 said:


IanRG said:


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Yes, I did join two posts. I showed that I did by putting space between them and by openly stating I did by starting my response with "YOUR FIRST RESPONSE WAS...".


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You can pretend that you were not answering me, but the second post directly answered what I asked you.


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You need to look up what projecting means.


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So, back to the topic: You said the switch between being anti-war after the event to being pro war later is lucrative: How much money will Trump make from being pro a war with Iran?



Ian, that is an awfully convoluted way of admitting you lied. . [Edited 5/21/19 14:50pm]

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No. There is no lie by me, the dishonesty is elsewhere. It is not convoluted - I started with "YOUR FIRST RESPONSE WAS..."


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You need to look up what lied means


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So, back to the topic: You said the switch between being anti-war after the event to being pro-war later is lucrative for many people. When asked who these many people you imagine are, you could not answer at first then listed Kerry, Trump and Madden.


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Kerry did not make money from Vietnam and then from mistakenly believing the Iraq war was necessary because they had weapons of mass destruction.


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Trump did not make money from his position on the war with Iraq and will not make money by promoting a war with Iran.


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Madden will not make money from seeking an end to the terrible situation in Venezuela.



I’m already discussing th with others in this debate.
You can keep trying to desperately fabricate responses to yourself but I’m not talking to you.
Not because you are a vicious serial liar and dishonest, but mostly because you are not very good at this.

Others on here share your same perspective on these issues.
I’m already engaging with them.
So please stop fabricating responses to yourself.





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“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #39 posted 05/21/19 3:13pm

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hausofmoi7 said:

IanRG said:



hausofmoi7 said:


IanRG said:


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Yes, I did join two posts. I showed that I did by putting space between them and by openly stating I did by starting my response with "YOUR FIRST RESPONSE WAS...".


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You can pretend that you were not answering me, but the second post directly answered what I asked you.


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You need to look up what projecting means.


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So, back to the topic: You said the switch between being anti-war after the event to being pro war later is lucrative: How much money will Trump make from being pro a war with Iran?



Ian, that is an awfully convoluted way of admitting you lied. . [Edited 5/21/19 14:50pm]

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No. There is no lie by me, the dishonesty is elsewhere. It is not convoluted - I started with "YOUR FIRST RESPONSE WAS..."


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You need to look up what lied means


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So, back to the topic: You said the switch between being anti-war after the event to being pro-war later is lucrative for many people. When asked who these many people you imagine are, you could not answer at first then listed Kerry, Trump and Madden.


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Kerry did not make money from Vietnam and then from mistakenly believing the Iraq war was necessary because they had weapons of mass destruction.


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Trump did not make money from his position on the war with Iraq and will not make money by promoting a war with Iran.


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Madden will not make money from seeking an end to the terrible situation in Venezuela.



I’m already discussing th with others in this debate.
You can keep trying to desperately fabricate responses to yourself but I’m not talking to you.
Not because you are a vicious serial liar and dishonest, but mostly because you are not very good at this.

Others on here share your perspective on these issues.
I’m engaging with them.
Bye Ian.


That’s one way to sneak out of a losing argument lol
President Turd is the shit.
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Reply #40 posted 05/21/19 3:21pm

IanRG

hausofmoi7 said:

IanRG said:

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No. There is no lie by me, the dishonesty is elsewhere. It is not convoluted - I started with "YOUR FIRST RESPONSE WAS..."

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You need to look up what lied means

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So, back to the topic: You said the switch between being anti-war after the event to being pro-war later is lucrative for many people. When asked who these many people you imagine are, you could not answer at first then listed Kerry, Trump and Madden.

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Kerry did not make money from Vietnam and then from mistakenly believing the Iraq war was necessary because they had weapons of mass destruction.

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Trump did not make money from his position on the war with Iraq and will not make money by promoting a war with Iran.

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Madden will not make money from seeking an end to the terrible situation in Venezuela.

I’m already discussing th with others in this debate. You can keep trying to desperately fabricate responses to yourself but I’m not talking to you. Not because you are a vicious serial liar and dishonest, but mostly because you are not very good at this. Others on here share your perspective on these issues. I’m engaging with them. Bye Ian.

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Look back - You have just made several responses in row directly to me and only me. No one else is discussing this at the moment and the only other person who previously responded to you was responding to your answer to my question.

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As happens so often, you make unsubstantiated claims, cannot support them and, instead, rely on making personal attacks.

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False accusations and pretending your inability to answer a question is someone else's fault is foolling no one.

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I take it that you still cannot support your assertion?

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Reply #41 posted 05/21/19 3:30pm

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RodeoSchro said:



hausofmoi7 said:


John Kerry went from anti-Vietnam war veteran to advocating for the Iraq War. Maddow and Trump both went from anti- war positions to being war mongers. Both launched thier political careers off this anti-war position. Both are now advocating for war with either Iran or Venezuela.



Wait a second. John Kerry became anti-Vietnam after actually fighting in that war. He "advocated" for the Iraq War because he - as well as many other foolish Democrats - trusted President George W. Bush and his interpretation of flawed intel. All of them to my knowledge have admitted that they should not have trusted Bush, Cheney and all those other Republican pussies.

I am not aware of John Kerry or Rachel Maddow advocating war with either Iran or Venezuela.

As noted above, unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump is a pussy, as is his National Security Advisor John Bolton. Both of those pussies most certainly have issues in the bedroom and think that killing people will make them real men.

They will never be real men.



The same people who lied about Iraq war are behind Iran and Venezuela lies.
Rachel Maddow aware of this is trying desperately to rehabilitate John Bolton’s reputation.
Maddow is an western capitalist elitist and that’s where her loyalty is.
Her views on Venezuela is steeped in white supramacy and colonialism.


White liberalism is the most annoying kind of racism.
White liberals don’t view themselves as racist so it’s much harder for them to see it than conservatives.





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“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #42 posted 05/21/19 4:01pm

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hausofmoi7 said:

RodeoSchro said:



Wait a second. John Kerry became anti-Vietnam after actually fighting in that war. He "advocated" for the Iraq War because he - as well as many other foolish Democrats - trusted President George W. Bush and his interpretation of flawed intel. All of them to my knowledge have admitted that they should not have trusted Bush, Cheney and all those other Republican pussies.

I am not aware of John Kerry or Rachel Maddow advocating war with either Iran or Venezuela.

As noted above, unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump is a pussy, as is his National Security Advisor John Bolton. Both of those pussies most certainly have issues in the bedroom and think that killing people will make them real men.

They will never be real men.

The same people who lied about Iraq war are behind Iran and Venezuela lies. Rachel Maddow aware of this is trying desperately to rehabilitate John Bolton’s reputation. Maddow is an western capitalist elitist and that’s where her loyalty is. Her views on Venezuela is steeped in white supramacy and colonialism. White liberalism is the most annoying kind of racism. White liberals don’t view themselves as racist so it’s much harder for them to see it than conservatives. . [Edited 5/21/19 15:53pm]




Are we talking about the same Rachel Maddow? The one I'm referring to is an anchor on MSNBC.

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Reply #43 posted 05/21/19 4:11pm

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RodeoSchro said:



hausofmoi7 said:


RodeoSchro said:




Wait a second. John Kerry became anti-Vietnam after actually fighting in that war. He "advocated" for the Iraq War because he - as well as many other foolish Democrats - trusted President George W. Bush and his interpretation of flawed intel. All of them to my knowledge have admitted that they should not have trusted Bush, Cheney and all those other Republican pussies.

I am not aware of John Kerry or Rachel Maddow advocating war with either Iran or Venezuela.

As noted above, unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump is a pussy, as is his National Security Advisor John Bolton. Both of those pussies most certainly have issues in the bedroom and think that killing people will make them real men.

They will never be real men.



The same people who lied about Iraq war are behind Iran and Venezuela lies. Rachel Maddow aware of this is trying desperately to rehabilitate John Bolton’s reputation. Maddow is an western capitalist elitist and that’s where her loyalty is. Her views on Venezuela is steeped in white supramacy and colonialism. White liberalism is the most annoying kind of racism. White liberals don’t view themselves as racist so it’s much harder for them to see it than conservatives. . [Edited 5/21/19 15:53pm]




Are we talking about the same Rachel Maddow? The one I'm referring to is an anchor on MSNBC.


Yep, that one.
Wants Trump to overthrow the bolivarian revolution.
Supports John Bolton on foreign policy.
Claims if Trump doesn’t follow John Bolton’s foreign policy agenda then he must be a secret foreign agent.







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Reply #44 posted 05/21/19 9:46pm

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Reply #45 posted 05/22/19 3:57am

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RodeoSchro said:



hausofmoi7 said:


RodeoSchro said:




Wait a second. John Kerry became anti-Vietnam after actually fighting in that war. He "advocated" for the Iraq War because he - as well as many other foolish Democrats - trusted President George W. Bush and his interpretation of flawed intel. All of them to my knowledge have admitted that they should not have trusted Bush, Cheney and all those other Republican pussies.

I am not aware of John Kerry or Rachel Maddow advocating war with either Iran or Venezuela.

As noted above, unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump is a pussy, as is his National Security Advisor John Bolton. Both of those pussies most certainly have issues in the bedroom and think that killing people will make them real men.

They will never be real men.



The same people who lied about Iraq war are behind Iran and Venezuela lies. Rachel Maddow aware of this is trying desperately to rehabilitate John Bolton’s reputation. Maddow is an western capitalist elitist and that’s where her loyalty is. Her views on Venezuela is steeped in white supramacy and colonialism. White liberalism is the most annoying kind of racism. White liberals don’t view themselves as racist so it’s much harder for them to see it than conservatives. . [Edited 5/21/19 15:53pm]




Are we talking about the same Rachel Maddow? The one I'm referring to is an anchor on MSNBC.



Maddow like other political pundits I think is aware that she can only get to keep her lucrative TV hosting job if she supports u.s foreign policy.
She would be fired if she supported the bolivarian revoultion.
I do also think that she actually believes in u.s exceptionalism and supremacy and is not actually self-editing herself.
Maddow has been shitting all over the bolivarian revolution since her days with Tucker Carlson on Fox News.
I think she is only labelled a liberal/progressive because she is LGBT.
Which is a very low bar since conservatives and even neo-Nazis in 2019 are inclusive of white LGBT people.

This debate was actually about Iran.
Of course the similarity here is the socialist party of Venezuela and Mossadegh.
The west hate socialism when it’s for black and brown people.
Any form of socialism in non western countries is always crushed.
Western capitalism falls apart if black and brown people the world over form socialist systems.
People like Maddow and Bolton are aware of this.
Maddow is protecting her privilege by shitting all over Venezuela at the behest of John Bolton.


I think there is some strong support for the Iran neuclear deal on the left and just a general sense that there should be no war with Iran, which is great.
I’m not sure why there seems to be support for Iran and not Venezuela on the left.
perhaps because the Iran deal was a Democratic Party initiative?
Regardless, it’s one of thier best achievements.
It’s a blue print for international co-existence and peace.


I think opposition to war with Iran has much more support than opposition to war with Venezuela.
I think perhaps because Venezuela is considered a “socialist” nation.
Socialism is the only threat to white supremacy and western capitalism that there is.
The perpetually intertwined nature of class and racism rears it’s ugly head again.
Yes, I believe that class and race is why Venezuela and the bolivarian revolution is struggling to gain traction and support.
Black and brown people asserting themselves so boldly is always going to cause people to clutch thier pearls.




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“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #46 posted 05/22/19 5:09am

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lust said:

hausofmoi7 said:



If you are a war criminal and a murderer, then I think it’s safe to say that “adulterer” becomes a redundant insult at that point.



Tell that to his wife!


Trump is no Kenny Lattimore.
That’s for sure.





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“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #47 posted 05/22/19 6:09am

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Iran doesn't think they need Nukes because people will and do attack them or set them back with military strikes anymore than Obama thinking make a deal means they will not try to still acquire Nukes or make threats against US allies. This is more to do with the destruction of everything and it will happen if we elect another pansy that makes deals with terrorist regimes and strategy is to arm terrorists to take out political enemies. If you hand money to enemies of the USA only one way to define you. The problem with Obama's deal was he injected too much personal bias into decisions.

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Obama would have thought by making a deal with people like Hitler it would change them. Fuck no it will not. No dealing with those types of assholes.

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #49 posted 05/22/19 6:30am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

Obama would have thought by making a deal with people like Hitler it would change them. Fuck no it will not. No dealing with those types of assholes.



I have never lived in Iran, but I have lived in the west and have experienced racism and anti-lgbt hatred.
None of those people were actually Iranian.


As someone who is considered “dark skin” in my family and community I get this.
Although as someone who grew up being called “the ugly one” because of my dark complexion which was “dark” in comparison to the rest of my family is that I also gained a great understanding of how within broader society I experience privilege because in that context I am considered “light skinned” or “acceptable” for a black/mixed/multi racial person which results in privilege.
As a result of this I have always understood how my skin complexion plays into the privilege I experience in wider society.
This privilege is in contrast to how my complexion works against me within my family and community as I am considered “dark skin” in that context.


My enemies are right here, I don’t need to to look to Iran for white supremacists.









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“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #50 posted 05/22/19 7:56am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

Obama would have thought by making a deal with people like Hitler it would change them. Fuck no it will not. No dealing with those types of assholes.



I have never lived in Iran, but I have lived in the west and have experienced racism and anti-lgbt hatred.
None of those people who were racist or bigoted towards me were actually Iranian.


As someone who is considered “dark skin” in my family and community I get this.
Although as someone who grew up being called “the ugly one” because of my dark complexion which is in comparison to the rest of my family is that I also gained a great understanding of how within broader society I experience privilege because in some contexts I am considered “light skinned” or “acceptable” for a black/mixed/multi racial person which results in privilege.
As a result of this I have always understood how my skin complexion plays into the privilege I experience in wider society.
This privilege is in contrast to how my complexion works against me within my family and community as I am considered “dark skin” in that context.


My enemies are right here, I don’t need to to look to Iran for white supremacists.




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“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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SuperFurryAnimal said:

Obama would have thought by making a deal with people like Hitler it would change them. Fuck no it will not. No dealing with those types of assholes.

LOL yet the dumbed down idiot MAGA fucktwats cheered when orange fat fuck talked to Kim Jong-Un, a guy and nation 1000 times worse than Iran in any shape or form


MAGA fucks are simply phoney hypcritic shitheads LMFAO

Ideally speaking, the President of the United States and the dumbest person in the country would be two different people. Oh well.... money can't fix stupid
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SuperFurryAnimal said:

Obama would have thought by making a deal with people like Hitler it would change them. Fuck no it will not. No dealing with those types of assholes.



Somehow I don't think two pussies who avoided military service for their country like unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump and John Bolton did are going to be a match for pretty much anyone.

All they will do is get a lot of people killed.

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Reply #53 posted 05/22/19 8:29am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

Obama would have thought by making a deal with people like Hitler it would change them. Fuck no it will not. No dealing with those types of assholes.


The Conservative party in Australia was actually where Nazis were given safe haven as a result of operation paperclip!
I never knew this fact.
But it makes perfect sense now why the country is so racist.


https://www.greenleft.org...ered-nazis

Coalition governments have for decades sheltered Nazi collaborators, some accused of horrific crimes. Many of them joined the Liberal Party and became influential within it.

The respected Simon Wiesenthal Centre, which tracks down Nazi fugitives, estimates that there could be as many as 400 Nazis in Australia who committed serious crimes during World War II.





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“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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BombSquad said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Obama would have thought by making a deal with people like Hitler it would change them. Fuck no it will not. No dealing with those types of assholes.

LOL yet the dumbed down idiot MAGA fucktwats cheered when orange fat fuck talked to Kim Jong-Un, a guy and nation 1000 times worse than Iran in any shape or form


MAGA fucks are simply phoney hypcritic shitheads LMFAO

His button is bigger.

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #55 posted 05/22/19 11:19am

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hausofmoi7 said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Obama would have thought by making a deal with people like Hitler it would change them. Fuck no it will not. No dealing with those types of assholes.

I have never lived in Iran, but I have lived in the west and have experienced racism and and anti-lgbt sentiment. None of those people who were racist or bigoted towards me were actually Iranian. As someone who is considered “dark skin” in my family and community I get this. Although as someone who grew up being called “the ugly one” because of my dark complexion which is in comparison to the rest of my family is that I also gained a great understanding of how within broader society I experience privilege because in some contexts I am considered “light skinned” or “acceptable” for a black/mixed/multi racial person which results in privilege. As a result of this I have always understood how my skin complexion plays into the privilege I experience in wider society. This privilege is in contrast to how my complexion works against me within my family and community as I am considered “dark skin” in that context. My enemies are right here, I don’t need to to look to Iran for white supremacists. . [Edited 5/22/19 10:52am]

From what you personally experienced? ok

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #56 posted 05/22/19 11:23am

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RodeoSchro said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Obama would have thought by making a deal with people like Hitler it would change them. Fuck no it will not. No dealing with those types of assholes.



Somehow I don't think two pussies who avoided military service for their country like unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump and John Bolton did are going to be a match for pretty much anyone.

All they will do is get a lot of people killed.

Have they gotten a lot of people killed? Enlighten me on the War.

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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SuperFurryAnimal said:

RodeoSchro said:



Somehow I don't think two pussies who avoided military service for their country like unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump and John Bolton did are going to be a match for pretty much anyone.

All they will do is get a lot of people killed.

Have they gotten a lot of people killed? Enlighten me on the War.



Not yet but John Bolton has wanted a war with Iran for 30+ years, and unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump is just stupid enough to let him start one.

I'm curious - what makes you think two pussies like unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump and John Bolton have what it takes to wage war?

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Reply #58 posted 05/22/19 1:30pm

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hausofmoi7 said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Obama would have thought by making a deal with people like Hitler it would change them. Fuck no it will not. No dealing with those types of assholes.

The Conservative party in Australia was actually where Nazis were given safe haven as a result of operation paperclip! I never knew this fact. But it makes perfect sense now why the country is so racist. https://www.greenleft.org...ered-nazis
Coalition governments have for decades sheltered Nazi collaborators, some accused of horrific crimes. Many of them joined the Liberal Party and became influential within it. The respected Simon Wiesenthal Centre, which tracks down Nazi fugitives, estimates that there could be as many as 400 Nazis in Australia who committed serious crimes during World War II.
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The Simon Wiesenthal Centre has had more than 90,000 former Nazis on it lists of which there could have as few as up to 400 who came to Australia!

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That is 0.44% of Weisenthal's list.

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Look at it from another perspective, the European immigration into Australia in the 20 years after WWII was 2,000,000 people. If it is that as many as 400 of these were on Weisenthal's list, then this is 0.02% of the immigrants. A veritiable flood that changed the nature of politics? Not.

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All of which means what to the topic? An absolute zero. The topic is not about your personal experience of abuse by your family because you are darker and LGBTIQA or how you benefited from white (or at least lighter) privilege compared to other families in your area. It is not about your theories on socialism and race. It is not about Venezuela. It is not about your theories on Kerry, Maddow and Trump changing from being after the event peace protestors to becoming war mongers because it is "lucrative". It is about the increasing tensions between the US and Iran and the resulting threats and counter-threats.

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It is a serious topic: Tensions on the world stage are being deliberately increased in the run up to 2020 with Iran, North Korea and China, the latter on two fronts with a trade war and naval challenges in the South China Sea. In the meantime, Putin's is sabre rattling for his own reasons.

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BombSquad said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Obama would have thought by making a deal with people like Hitler it would change them. Fuck no it will not. No dealing with those types of assholes.

LOL yet the dumbed down idiot MAGA fucktwats cheered when orange fat fuck talked to Kim Jong-Un, a guy and nation 1000 times worse than Iran in any shape or form


MAGA fucks are simply phoney hypcritic shitheads LMFAO

lol

Why do we have to keep telling furry that Obama is no longer in office???

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