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Thread started 01/24/19 12:55pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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The D.C. Controversy

[This is being reopened. Please be civil to one another, no baiting or flaming, name calling - you know..... the usual "org rules". Any shitty problems with this thread and it will be shut down and offenders will be dealt with accordingly - this is a warning - luv4u]

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Since the original topic was locked I have made a new one as it is still very much a newsworthy issue.



Nathan Phillips, a Native American activist left an “Indigenous Peoples Rally” to ‘pray’ at students after another group of adult males verbally attacked them. Mr. Philips did not seem to care that the other group of men were yelling insults and slurs at the children, and entered the group of minors beating a drum as he chanted what he claimed to be a ‘spiritual’ song or prayer. Phillips, who has since come under fire for misrepresenting his military record, settled on one student and stood very close to the boy as he beat his drum and sang.



And Edited video was posted with the statements that the students went to the “Indigenous Peoples Rally” and surrounded Mr. Phillips and harassed him with chants and slurs of their own. Later, unedited footage revealed that a group of men from a third group had been yelling at the students with slurs and calling the students “incest babies” and “demons.”



Furthermore, Mr. Philips was found to have both, directly and indirectly, misrepresented his military service. He claimed to be a “Recon Ranger” which is not true as his actual job was a refrigerator repairman. He also failed to correct the record when he was referred to as a combat veteran. It is true he was active duty during the Vietnam War, it was only for basic training for reserve status and not active duty. In his time he was found to be AWOL several times and left service with the rank of E-1 Private.

EDITS made to correct errors and other issues...


Also, more video has emerged where Philips claims to have been "in theater" meaning in the combat zone. There is also some question as to the type of Discharge.
[Edited 1/24/19 15:25pm]
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Reply #1 posted 01/24/19 1:26pm

jaawwnn

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Well i disapprove of people picking on those idiotic kids because they are just kids after all but i approve of people stealing valour and lying about their military service because its hilarious so I suppose id call this one a draw.
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Reply #2 posted 01/24/19 1:58pm

NorthC

Give it a rest. This is old news.
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Reply #3 posted 01/24/19 2:43pm

djThunderfunk

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Seriously? The first thread was closed? For what? A misrepresentative title? lol

When things aren't what you thought they were and don't work out the way you expect, just take your ball and go home. Is that about right?

"Old news"? SMH!

These kids and their families are still being subjected to harassment and death threats. Twitter is still failing to suspend or deplatform people for threats. Some media is still spreading proven lies. This is not over and it's not old.

Ross Perot was right!!
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Reply #4 posted 01/24/19 3:14pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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jaawwnn said:

Well i disapprove of people picking on those idiotic kids because they are just kids after all but i approve of people stealing valour and lying about their military service because its hilarious so I suppose id call this one a draw.

Some people value honesty and integrity... I am sure if you were say passed over for a big promotion because some co-worker lied on their resume... you would not find it so funny.

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Reply #5 posted 01/24/19 3:17pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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djThunderfunk said:

Seriously? The first thread was closed? For what? A misrepresentative title? lol

When things aren't what you thought they were and don't work out the way you expect, just take your ball and go home. Is that about right?

"Old news"? SMH!

These kids and their families are still being subjected to harassment and death threats. Twitter is still failing to suspend or deplatform people for threats. Some media is still spreading proven lies. This is not over and it's not old.

I do not know why it was closed. I guess I need to edit the post...

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Reply #6 posted 01/24/19 3:27pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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NorthC said:

Give it a rest. This is old news.

then why post? But yeah more details are coming out.. and this is very much an ongoing story.

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Reply #7 posted 01/25/19 10:29am

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The Black Hebrew Israelites and their connection to the Covington controversy, explained

How a rarely discussed religious group became part of the viral Covington story.

President Donald Trump, conservative commentators, and a number of prominent journalists responded to the second video and Sandmann’s statement by saying that the early criticism of studen... overblown, and the result of a rush to judgement. Phillips, for his part, explained in interviews that he wanted to separate the students and the Hebrew Israelites, noting that the men were vastly outnumbered by students. “These young men were beastly and these old black individuals was their prey,” Phillips said.

The Black Hebrew Israelites, meanwhile, have said that they are being used as a scapegoat for the students’ behavior. Now, more than three days after the video first went viral, the small group finds itself in the middle of a controversy over very different framings of the rally incident.

https://www.vox.com/ident...llips-maga

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Reply #8 posted 01/25/19 12:12pm

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The Sandmann family has hired an attorney known for libel suits against the media.

https://www.cincinnati.co...672391002/

Ross Perot was right!!
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Reply #9 posted 01/25/19 12:30pm

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Beau Friedlander at NBC has written an article which attempts to make the case that it is racist and anti-semetic to question the media's false narrative about the Covington Catholic students, Mr. Phillips and the black hebrew israelites.

https://www.nbcnews.com/t...ncna961901

So the media gets proven to be liars that can't do research that independents on the internet are able to do, like watching all the videos to see what really happened or investigate Phillips' military records to find out the truth about him, and they react by attacking the people that exposed their unprofessionalism, partisanship, and lies by calling them racist?

This is what we mean by "Fake News".

Ross Perot was right!!
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Reply #10 posted 01/25/19 1:59pm

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The Bishop at the Diocese of Covington has apologized to the students and parents of Covington Catholic.

“We should not have allowed ourselves to be bullied and pressured into making a statement premature.”

http://www.fox19.com/2019...your-side/



At this point, t's safe to assume these kids will not be punished by the school much less expelled.

Ross Perot was right!!
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Reply #11 posted 01/25/19 4:50pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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djThunderfunk said:

The Bishop at the Diocese of Covington has apologized to the students and parents of Covington Catholic.

“We should not have allowed ourselves to be bullied and pressured into making a statement premature.”

http://www.fox19.com/2019...your-side/



At this point, t's safe to assume these kids will not be punished by the school much less expelled.

I was fooled too. I still think he should have walked away. To see people happy the kids were going be punished was odd before we found out the truth... but what was worst was how some refused to back off once we did.

And then the scary part was how people were calling for the kids to be attacked.. some offering sex acts or other valuable things... those people should be charged. I did hear that many of them did backtrack or delete posts. And one producer apparently was fired for calling for the kids to be murdered.

Like you said the media failed in this case.

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Reply #12 posted 01/25/19 5:36pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

djThunderfunk said:

The Bishop at the Diocese of Covington has apologized to the students and parents of Covington Catholic.

“We should not have allowed ourselves to be bullied and pressured into making a statement premature.”

http://www.fox19.com/2019...your-side/



At this point, t's safe to assume these kids will not be punished by the school much less expelled.

I was fooled too. I still think he should have walked away. To see people happy the kids were going be punished was odd before we found out the truth... but what was worst was how some refused to back off once we did.

And then the scary part was how people were calling for the kids to be attacked.. some offering sex acts or other valuable things... those people should be charged. I did hear that many of them did backtrack or delete posts. And one producer apparently was fired for calling for the kids to be murdered.

Like you said the media failed in this case.


The media did not do their jobs, they just got their "facts" from social media and ran with it. It took independent journalists and curious people that were willing to watch hours of video to uncover the truth about what happened in DC and Phillips' real military record.

Ross Perot was right!!
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Reply #13 posted 01/25/19 5:40pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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djThunderfunk said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I was fooled too. I still think he should have walked away. To see people happy the kids were going be punished was odd before we found out the truth... but what was worst was how some refused to back off once we did.

And then the scary part was how people were calling for the kids to be attacked.. some offering sex acts or other valuable things... those people should be charged. I did hear that many of them did backtrack or delete posts. And one producer apparently was fired for calling for the kids to be murdered.

Like you said the media failed in this case.


The media did not do their jobs, they just got their "facts" from social media and ran with it. It took independent journalists and curious people that were willing to watch hours of video to uncover the truth about what happened in DC and Phillips' real military record.

They saw white kids that they assumed are affluent and were MAGA hat wearing Trump supporters who dared to commit "facecrime" a war hero! LOL

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Reply #14 posted 01/26/19 6:13am

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Not controversial, the Indian was in the right and the kids were being racist little dicks.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #15 posted 01/26/19 6:34am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Not controversial, the Indian was in the right and the kids were being racist little dicks.



Jimmy Dore disagrees with you.

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Reply #16 posted 01/26/19 6:35am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Not controversial, the Indian was in the right and the kids were being racist little dicks.

wrong and the video proves it... it was that other group of ADULTS that were yelling racial slurs and other horrible insults at the kids... and the LIAR Philips decided he better go scold the kids? and what did they do? the LOOKED at him and did not run away? Why should they back down when Solen Valor Mr Refigerator Repair... AWOL... Loser (Most people get E2 in less than a year and E3 in 18 months and E4 in 3 years) E1 Buck private... intruded into their space?



Oh, and he apparently has a criminal record! Other than AWOL (which I do not really understand... I thought he was just a Reservist... and unless activated (and drills are not activation) you cannot be AWOL.

But anyway... Philips was wrong...

but you know if you ignore the videos... and facts...

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Reply #17 posted 01/26/19 7:09am

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Fuck any person that wears a MAGA hat. Especially these self entitled little racist assholes.

"If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."
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Reply #18 posted 01/26/19 7:10am

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13cjk13 said:

Fuck any person that wears a MAGA hat. Especially these self entitled little racist assholes.

maybe go read the red text in the top post...

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Reply #19 posted 01/26/19 7:15am

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13cjk13 said:

Fuck any person that wears a MAGA hat. Especially these self entitled little racist assholes.


Are you creating "shitty problems" to get the thread shut down? SMH

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Reply #20 posted 01/26/19 9:13am

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In a nutshell:

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Reply #21 posted 01/26/19 11:53am

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CynicKill said:

In a nutshell:



Excellent clip!

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Reply #22 posted 01/26/19 12:53pm

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Mainstream media kept it silent for most part that Phillips was never deployed to Vietnam or more to the video. This I know after speaking to some old people at a coffee shop this morning. D Lemon and Cuomo are doing the work, working overtime to sell more false narratives. Crashing the church service was kept quiet. I probably reach 1000 people just telling them about alternative media. Word of mouth. The truth will spread. The truth will win. They will have to kill me to win.
What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #23 posted 01/26/19 12:56pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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djThunderfunk said:

CynicKill said:

In a nutshell:



Excellent clip!

so far it is interesting... i like when he mentions 'russian ads' sad how the far left just believed the false story that russia helped hillary lose because someone on russia exercised free speech to post ads and then some cheer when the US government charges them with a crime? of what? LOL sick and scary.

(and russia said they wanted to mess with the US...and they did... thus all the trump haters being tricked into thinking that russia agents were able to influence the outcome... )

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Reply #24 posted 01/26/19 1:02pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

Mainstream media kept it silent for most part that Phillips was never deployed to Vietnam or more to the video. This I know after speaking to some old people at a coffee shop this morning. D Lemon and Cuomo are doing the work, working overtime to sell more false narratives. Crashing the church service was kept quiet. I probably reach 1000 people just telling them about alternative media. Word of mouth. The truth will spread. The truth will win. They will have to kill me to win.

it is not that they got took! it is not that many people totally accepted the lie... we saw that in the original topic from the first word in the title... I get some were mad at the kid... i was mad! I still say he should have backed down. (as if some of his main critics would have)

the evil was in not retracing and not backing down... not having the moral fiber to admit they made a mistake... sad.


but again we all know it had everything to do with the hat...

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Reply #25 posted 01/26/19 9:14pm

13cjk13

"It's not rape if you enjoy it". Those sweet little catholic kids say such cute things. Fuck them and their MAGA hats.

"If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."
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Reply #26 posted 01/26/19 9:15pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

13cjk13 said:

Fuck any person that wears a MAGA hat. Especially these self entitled little racist assholes.

maybe go read the red text in the top post...

No thanks.

"If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."
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Reply #27 posted 01/26/19 9:15pm

13cjk13

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Mainstream media kept it silent for most part that Phillips was never deployed to Vietnam or more to the video. This I know after speaking to some old people at a coffee shop this morning. D Lemon and Cuomo are doing the work, working overtime to sell more false narratives. Crashing the church service was kept quiet. I probably reach 1000 people just telling them about alternative media. Word of mouth. The truth will spread. The truth will win. They will have to kill me to win.

nuts nuts nuts

"If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."
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Reply #28 posted 01/26/19 9:16pm

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The Sandmann family has hired an attorney known for libel suits against the media.

https://www.cincinnati.co...672391002/

Ahhh, poor little baby.

"If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."
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Reply #29 posted 01/28/19 9:33am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

jaawwnn said:

Well i disapprove of people picking on those idiotic kids because they are just kids after all but i approve of people stealing valour and lying about their military service because its hilarious so I suppose id call this one a draw.

Some people value honesty and integrity... I am sure if you were say passed over for a big promotion because some co-worker lied on their resume... you would not find it so funny.

I wasn't aware this guy got promoted recently. I'd definitely be more impressed if he had gone to prison as a conscientious objector though, that's true.

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