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Reply #60 posted 05/29/20 7:48pm

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No doubt Reeve is the definitive Superman. When I consider that it laid out the blueprint for comic movies, was very well written, and was very well cast, Superman: The Movie for my oldhead twocents is the GOAT.

Superman is only my second favourite. Superman 2: The Richard Donner cut is my all time favourite superhero movie.


The Superman II Donner Cut is what today's comic movie fans THINK Justice League's Snyder cut is. Difference is, the final Superman II is a good enough film in its own right.

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Reply #61 posted 05/29/20 7:49pm

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I understand what you are say but I don't agree with it. I think the should cast how the character looks like. I don't want a blonde hair blue eye person playing Superman, can't believe it.

What about Nick Fury? His race was changed in the comic books, not just in the MCU. I think Doctor Strange was originally Asian in the comics too. Lois Lane was turned into a black woman in one issue of her comic book. On a related note, there was a white J.J. on an episode of Good Times. razz

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Terrible oversight on my part too.

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Reply #62 posted 05/30/20 3:44pm

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Supposedly Samuel L Jackson allowed Marvel to use his likeness for Nick Fury in the comics in exchange for being cast as that character if a movie featuring Nick Fury were to ever be made. It sounds like an excellent deal in retrospect.

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Reply #63 posted 05/30/20 4:59pm

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Agree Christopher Reeve was the best Superman, though I didn't like how they made him way to nerdy and clumsy as Clark Kent. I know they were going for humour but it wasn't needed in the films since Otis was there for comic relief. Brandon Routh was great in the role too and was a better Clark Kent for sure. Kevin Spacey as a bond villian..................................LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!


No doubt Reeve is the definitive Superman. When I consider that it laid out the blueprint for comic movies, was very well written, and was very well cast, Superman: The Movie for my oldhead twocents is the GOAT.

Reeve was the definitive Superman, but for me, "Man of Steel" is the definitive Superman movie. Great villains, great battle scenes, Supes whipping ass for a change and no corny cringe-worthy scenes like in the Donner films. The Battle of Smallville is one of my time favorite live action superhero fights.

I can't believe folks actually liked that snoozefest 'Superman Returns'...I was nodding off waiting for something exciting to happen. Can they give us a bad guy other than the same ol' Lex Luthor? How about Brainiac, Mongol, Darkseid, Parasite, Metallo or Bizarro?

Being somewhat of a comic book nerd, I'm totally against changing the nationality / gender of the iconic characters. Leave them the way they were written....no need to fuck up the source material. No black Superman or white Blade for me.

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Reply #64 posted 05/31/20 1:26am

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uPtoWnNY said:

namepeace said:


No doubt Reeve is the definitive Superman. When I consider that it laid out the blueprint for comic movies, was very well written, and was very well cast, Superman: The Movie for my oldhead twocents is the GOAT.

Reeve was the definitive Superman, but for me, "Man of Steel" is the definitive Superman movie. Great villains, great battle scenes, Supes whipping ass for a change and no corny cringe-worthy scenes like in the Donner films. The Battle of Smallville is one of my time favorite live action superhero fights.

I can't believe folks actually liked that snoozefest 'Superman Returns'...I was nodding off waiting for something exciting to happen. Can they give us a bad guy other than the same ol' Lex Luthor? How about Brainiac, Mongol, Darkseid, Parasite, Metallo or Bizarro?

Being somewhat of a comic book nerd, I'm totally against changing the nationality / gender of the iconic characters. Leave them the way they were written....no need to fuck up the source material. No black Superman or white Blade for me.

rolleyes hmm hrmph bored tumbleweed

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Reply #65 posted 05/31/20 1:55am

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uPtoWnNY said:



namepeace said:




kpowers said:



Agree Christopher Reeve was the best Superman, though I didn't like how they made him way to nerdy and clumsy as Clark Kent. I know they were going for humour but it wasn't needed in the films since Otis was there for comic relief. Brandon Routh was great in the role too and was a better Clark Kent for sure. Kevin Spacey as a bond villian.....LOVE IT!!!!!




No doubt Reeve is the definitive Superman. When I consider that it laid out the blueprint for comic movies, was very well written, and was very well cast, Superman: The Movie for my oldhead twocents is the GOAT.





Reeve was the definitive Superman, but for me, "Man of Steel" is the definitive Superman movie. Great villains, great battle scenes, Supes whipping ass for a change and no corny cringe-worthy scenes like in the Donner films. The Battle of Smallville is one of my time favorite live action superhero fights.



I can't believe folks actually liked that snoozefest 'Superman Returns'...I was nodding off waiting for something exciting to happen. Can they give us a bad guy other than the same ol' Lex Luthor? How about Brainiac, Mongol, Darkseid, Parasite, Metallo or Bizarro?



Being somewhat of a comic book nerd, I'm totally against changing the nationality / gender of the iconic characters. Leave them the way they were written....no need to fuck up the source material. No black Superman or white Blade for me.




I'll take a "boring" story over shitty CGI destruction any day. The Man of Steel fights would have been better if they had effects as good as those seen in the Marvel movies but the fact is, they didn't. Awful, cartoony looking CGI ruined that movie for me. Michael Shannon was a good Zod. Nowhere near Terrence Stamp but still really good. I don't even know the other two villains names. They were non-entities in that movie. Ursa and Non were memorable. But the worst thing about Man of Steel for me was the theme song. The Reeve movies had a great theme. THE definitive Superman theme. The animated series of the 90s had a great theme. Even the Dean Cain show had a theme song that when you hear it, you think "Superman". That was completely absent in Man of Steel.
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Reply #66 posted 05/31/20 8:02am

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Did anyone like the Smallville TV series?

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #67 posted 05/31/20 10:04am

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Did anyone like the Smallville TV series?



I liked it but it dragged on a bit.
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Reply #68 posted 05/31/20 12:11pm

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Did anyone like the Smallville TV series?

Yup, both Emma and I feel the first 5 years should have been Smallville and the last 5 years should have been Metropolis. It dragged because Clark should have been Superman by then and not the Blur.

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Reply #69 posted 05/31/20 12:49pm

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kpowers said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Did anyone like the Smallville TV series?

Yup, both Emma and I feel the first 5 years should have been Smallville and the last 5 years should have been Metropolis. It dragged because Clark should have been Superman by then and not the Blur.

Yeah, my son and I felt the same way... After Clark moved to Metropolis the show stagnated and quickly went nowhere. I got impatient when promising storylines hit dead ends and lost interest when the characters stopped developing. But the show was good while Supes lived in Smallville. BTW we really enjoyed Chris Reeves' cameo on the series.

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Reply #70 posted 05/31/20 1:21pm

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Yup, both Emma and I feel the first 5 years should have been Smallville and the last 5 years should have been Metropolis. It dragged because Clark should have been Superman by then and not the Blur.

Yeah, my son and I felt the same way... After Clark moved to Metropolis the show stagnated and quickly went nowhere. I got impatient when promising storylines hit dead ends and lost interest when the characters stopped developing. But the show was good while Supes lived in Smallville. BTW we really enjoyed Chris Reeves' cameo on the series.

Yeah they had a lot of actors associated with the Superman movies and Lois Lane appear on Smallville on it. The Flash series does the same.

[Edited 5/31/20 14:03pm]

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Reply #71 posted 05/31/20 2:01pm

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EmmaMcG said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Did anyone like the Smallville TV series?

I liked it but it dragged on a bit.

Come to think of it the CW crossover ruined Smallville. They made Clark give up his powers, lame, and that world in which Smallville took place was destroyed. Worse of all now the crappy Superman on Supergirl is the official Superman barf . With the exception of the Flash I refuse to watch all the other DC shows on the CW. I am watching Stargirl right now and it's not bad because they are just focusing on her being a super hero. Once the show starts getting preachy and PC I will tune out.

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Reply #72 posted 06/01/20 2:18am

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Emma and I disapprove

I co-sign with both of you. Robert Pattinson looks NOTHING like Bruce Wayne.

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Reply #73 posted 06/01/20 2:20am

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purplethunder3121 said:

What people don't know is that Prince stopped by the Hall of Justice and did a show for us.

Did Prince performed Electric Chair?

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Reply #74 posted 06/01/20 10:38pm

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TonyVanDam said:

kpowers said:

What people don't know is that Prince stopped by the Hall of Justice and did a show for us.

Did Prince performed Electric Chair?

He played When Doves Cry for the first time ever

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Reply #75 posted 06/02/20 5:02am

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He'll do fine, just like Keaton and Ledger did even after the public outcry of neckbeards...
The only thing these neckbeards were right about was that flaphead Affleck... His stuntman was the perfect Batman though...

Neversin.

[Edited 6/2/20 5:02am]

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Reply #76 posted 06/02/20 5:07am

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He'll do fine, just like Keaton and Ledger did even after the public outcry of neckbeards...
The only thing these neckbeards were right about was that flaphead Affleck... His stuntman was the perfect Batman though...

Neversin.

[Edited 6/2/20 5:02am]


lol thumbs up!

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Reply #77 posted 06/02/20 9:35am

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Neversin said:

He'll do fine, just like Keaton and Ledger did even after the public outcry of neckbeards...
The only thing these neckbeards were right about was that flaphead Affleck... His stuntman was the perfect Batman though...

Neversin.

[Edited 6/2/20 5:02am]

That's what they said about Clooney

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Reply #78 posted 06/02/20 9:47am

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kpowers said:



Neversin said:


He'll do fine, just like Keaton and Ledger did even after the public outcry of neckbeards...
The only thing these neckbeards were right about was that flaphead Affleck... His stuntman was the perfect Batman though...

Neversin.


[Edited 6/2/20 5:02am]



That's what they said about Clooney



To be honest, I don't remember any reaction, good or bad, to Clooney's casting because I would have been too young to pay attention to such things so I can only judge it in hindsight. I can see people thinking he might do well as Bruce Wayne but did anyone really expect him to be a good Batman? Especially knowing that Joel Schumacher was directing again after Batman Forever? They could have had Michael Keaton return and it would still have been a disaster with that idiot directing.
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Reply #79 posted 06/02/20 10:33am

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EmmaMcG said:

kpowers said:

That's what they said about Clooney

To be honest, I don't remember any reaction, good or bad, to Clooney's casting because I would have been too young to pay attention to such things so I can only judge it in hindsight. I can see people thinking he might do well as Bruce Wayne but did anyone really expect him to be a good Batman? Especially knowing that Joel Schumacher was directing again after Batman Forever? They could have had Michael Keaton return and it would still have been a disaster with that idiot directing.

Well that's all before the internet. Yeah there was talk good and bad about George Clooney. Yes George Clooney fans liked the pick and hard core comic book fans not so much.

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Reply #80 posted 06/03/20 2:04am

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kpowers said:

Neversin said:

He'll do fine, just like Keaton and Ledger did even after the public outcry of neckbeards...
The only thing these neckbeards were right about was that flaphead Affleck... His stuntman was the perfect Batman though...

Neversin.

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That's what they said about Clooney


hmmm
I remember a lot of bad articles from then about the casting of Clooney and Swarzenegger loong before the movie came out. Maybe in the US they thought he would be fine tho.
After Batman Forever these casting choices were considered even worse than Kilmer, Carrey and Jones (at last according to Dutch movie reviewers) and they were right.

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Reply #81 posted 06/03/20 9:13am

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JorisE73 said:

kpowers said:

That's what they said about Clooney


hmmm
I remember a lot of bad articles from then about the casting of Clooney and Swarzenegger loong before the movie came out. Maybe in the US they thought he would be fine tho.
After Batman Forever these casting choices were considered even worse than Kilmer, Carrey and Jones (at last according to Dutch movie reviewers) and they were right.

His fans and hollywood friends were for casting Clooney. Carrey was the worse choice for Joker.

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Reply #82 posted 06/03/20 11:47am

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kpowers said:



JorisE73 said:




kpowers said:



That's what they said about Clooney




hmmm
I remember a lot of bad articles from then about the casting of Clooney and Swarzenegger loong before the movie came out. Maybe in the US they thought he would be fine tho.
After Batman Forever these casting choices were considered even worse than Kilmer, Carrey and Jones (at last according to Dutch movie reviewers) and they were right.



His fans and hollywood friends were for casting Clooney. Carrey was the worse choice for Joker.



Jim Carrey played the Riddler. You must have taken one too many blows to the head crime fighting in Gotham City πŸ˜‹
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Reply #83 posted 06/03/20 12:48pm

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EmmaMcG said:

kpowers said:



JorisE73 said:




kpowers said:



That's what they said about Clooney




hmmm
I remember a lot of bad articles from then about the casting of Clooney and Swarzenegger loong before the movie came out. Maybe in the US they thought he would be fine tho.
After Batman Forever these casting choices were considered even worse than Kilmer, Carrey and Jones (at last according to Dutch movie reviewers) and they were right.



His fans and hollywood friends were for casting Clooney. Carrey was the worse choice for Joker.



Jim Carrey played the Riddler. You must have taken one too many blows to the head crime fighting in Gotham City πŸ˜‹

Ooops meant to say riddler
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Reply #84 posted 06/03/20 3:13pm

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kpowers said:

EmmaMcG said:
Jim Carrey played the Riddler. You must have taken one too many blows to the head crime fighting in Gotham City πŸ˜‹
Ooops meant to say riddler

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Reply #85 posted 06/04/20 12:52am

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EmmaMcG said:

kpowers said:

His fans and hollywood friends were for casting Clooney. Carrey was the worse choice for Joker.

Jim Carrey played the Riddler. You must have taken one too many blows to the head crime fighting in Gotham City πŸ˜‹

You know I'm sensitive about that

MRW a Christian podcaster claims that Batman represents Satan ...

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Reply #86 posted 06/04/20 3:20am

JorisE73

kpowers said:

EmmaMcG said:

kpowers said: Jim Carrey played the Riddler. You must have taken one too many blows to the head crime fighting in Gotham City πŸ˜‹

You know I'm sensitive about that

MRW a Christian podcaster claims that Batman represents Satan ...


I understand the mistake perfectly. Batman Forever had two rogues in name only but both played a variantion of the Joker.

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