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Reply #60 posted 07/07/18 10:58am

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what makes JJ a shit is he did all this to make money for the family..not make the kids better people


What.
All the kids seemed perfectly fine until the mid 80s when they all left the nest/Joe's management.
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Reply #61 posted 07/07/18 11:39am

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

luvsexy4all said:

what makes JJ a shit is he did all this to make money for the family..not make the kids better people

What. All the kids seemed perfectly fine until the mid 80s when they all left the nest/Joe's management.

Nuff said...

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Reply #62 posted 07/09/18 12:29pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

luvsexy4all said:

what makes JJ a shit is he did all this to make money for the family..not make the kids better people


What.
All the kids seemed perfectly fine until the mid 80s when they all left the nest/Joe's management.




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Reply #63 posted 07/09/18 8:54pm

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Janet Jackson Addresses Joe Jackson’s Death During Concert https://www.rollingstone....rt-697552/

It was a nice tribute.......but I still like this song.....Janet Jackson - You Need Me (B-Side of Miss You Much)

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Reply #64 posted 07/09/18 10:47pm

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Reply #65 posted 07/10/18 5:26am

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luvsexy4all said:

what makes JJ a shit is he did all this to make money for the family..not make the kids better people

this wasn't said when this stuff meant something

during the hey day, the glory years, where there wasn't all this scapegoating....

when the Jackson Five were at teh forefront all the way up to the end of the 70s, and the beginning to mid 80s......not one of the Jackson siblings from Rebbie all they way down to Janet, not one every got in trouble with the law, convicted of a major crime

and throughout this journey, then odyssey, then tragic ending, the entire family has been gracious with media, and fans alike and never ever said anything negative about either when they've received nothing but pure hatred for 30 years running for absolutely nothing tangible or legit....

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Reply #66 posted 07/10/18 5:31am

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Scorp said:

luvsexy4all said:

what makes JJ a shit is he did all this to make money for the family..not make the kids better people

this wasn't said when this stuff meant something

during the hey day, the glory years, where there wasn't all this scapegoating....

when the Jackson Five were at teh forefront all the way up to the end of the 70s, and the beginning to mid 80s......not one of the Jackson siblings from Rebbie all they way down to Janet, not one every got in trouble with the law, convicted of a major crime

and throughout this journey, then odyssey, then tragic ending, the entire family has been gracious with media, and fans alike and never ever said anything negative about either when they've received nothing but pure hatred for 30 years running for absolutely nothing tangible or legit....

I wouldn't call Latoya's media tour gracious.It was downright SCANDALOUS!

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #67 posted 07/10/18 8:28am

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Scorp said:




luvsexy4all said:


what makes JJ a shit is he did all this to make money for the family..not make the kids better people





this wasn't said when this stuff meant something



during the hey day, the glory years, where there wasn't all this scapegoating....



when the Jackson Five were at teh forefront all the way up to the end of the 70s, and the beginning to mid 80s.....not one of the Jackson siblings from Rebbie all they way down to Janet, not one every got in trouble with the law, convicted of a major crime



and throughout this journey, then odyssey, then tragic ending, the entire family has been gracious with media, and fans alike and never ever said anything negative about either when they've received nothing but pure hatred for 30 years running for absolutely nothing tangible or legit....





I wouldn't call Latoya's media tour gracious.It was downright SCANDALOUS!





Im refering to overall hostile attacks directed towards them over the past 30 years by casts and crews of antagonizers
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Reply #68 posted 07/10/18 9:38am

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Scorp said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I wouldn't call Latoya's media tour gracious.It was downright SCANDALOUS!

Im refering to overall hostile attacks directed towards them over the past 30 years by casts and crews of antagonizers

Oh ok! I know I'll NEVER forgive the press, or "The Industry". on how they blackballed, and attacked, my favorite Jackson Janet, over something that Madonna has done far worse of, show her body.

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #69 posted 07/10/18 5:54pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

Scorp said:

ChocolateBox3121 said: Im refering to overall hostile attacks directed towards them over the past 30 years by casts and crews of antagonizers

Oh ok! I know I'll NEVER forgive the press, or "The Industry". on how they blackballed, and attacked, my favorite Jackson Janet, over something that Madonna has done far worse of, show her body.

I mean to the point where they could have said screw everyone who vilififed them over the past 30 years...and screw is the PG rated term....

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Reply #70 posted 07/11/18 6:32pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:



Scorp said:




luvsexy4all said:


what makes JJ a shit is he did all this to make money for the family..not make the kids better people





this wasn't said when this stuff meant something



during the hey day, the glory years, where there wasn't all this scapegoating....



when the Jackson Five were at teh forefront all the way up to the end of the 70s, and the beginning to mid 80s.....not one of the Jackson siblings from Rebbie all they way down to Janet, not one every got in trouble with the law, convicted of a major crime



and throughout this journey, then odyssey, then tragic ending, the entire family has been gracious with media, and fans alike and never ever said anything negative about either when they've received nothing but pure hatred for 30 years running for absolutely nothing tangible or legit....





I wouldn't call Latoya's media tour gracious.It was downright SCANDALOUS!


and a few of the family have had trouble with the law

The family has gotten a lot of flack from the press. Some of it justified but a lot of it was unfair
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #71 posted 07/11/18 7:31pm

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bboy87 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:



Scorp said:




luvsexy4all said:


what makes JJ a shit is he did all this to make money for the family..not make the kids better people





this wasn't said when this stuff meant something



during the hey day, the glory years, where there wasn't all this scapegoating....



when the Jackson Five were at teh forefront all the way up to the end of the 70s, and the beginning to mid 80s.....not one of the Jackson siblings from Rebbie all they way down to Janet, not one every got in trouble with the law, convicted of a major crime



and throughout this journey, then odyssey, then tragic ending, the entire family has been gracious with media, and fans alike and never ever said anything negative about either when they've received nothing but pure hatred for 30 years running for absolutely nothing tangible or legit....





I wouldn't call Latoya's media tour gracious.It was downright SCANDALOUS!


and a few of the family have had trouble with the law

The family has gotten a lot of flack from the press. Some of it justified but a lot of it was unfair

After they left Joe's guidance they got into trouble.
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Reply #72 posted 07/11/18 7:43pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

bboy87 said:


and a few of the family have had trouble with the law

The family has gotten a lot of flack from the press. Some of it justified but a lot of it was unfair

After they left Joe's guidance they got into trouble.

Tito's situation was during the J5 heyday

but Johnny Jackson was to blame. Can't be out here smoking weed while driving confused
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Reply #73 posted 07/11/18 8:14pm

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bboy87 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:
After they left Joe's guidance they got into trouble.
Tito's situation was during the J5 heyday but Johnny Jackson was to blame. Can't be out here smoking weed while driving confused

Tito went to jail because he purchased some equipment that ened up being stole and he didn't know. Charges were dropped the next day. See, the movie wasn't lying, should've taken that equipment Joe was offering, just don't mary Dee, lol.

And, what's this weed situation ... lol

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Reply #74 posted 07/12/18 12:03am

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

bboy87 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said: Tito's situation was during the J5 heyday but Johnny Jackson was to blame. Can't be out here smoking weed while driving confused

Tito went to jail because he purchased some equipment that ened up being stole and he didn't know. Charges were dropped the next day. See, the movie wasn't lying, should've taken that equipment Joe was offering, just don't mary Dee, lol.

And, what's this weed situation ... lol

You were right lol It was the theft arrest. I remembered Johnny getting caught with weed and got it mixed up with the arrest with Tito

When did Joe fire Johnny from the band?

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Reply #75 posted 07/12/18 7:22am

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bboy87 said:



LittleBLUECorvette said:




bboy87 said:


LittleBLUECorvette said: Tito's situation was during the J5 heyday but Johnny Jackson was to blame. Can't be out here smoking weed while driving confused

Tito went to jail because he purchased some equipment that ened up being stole and he didn't know. Charges were dropped the next day. See, the movie wasn't lying, should've taken that equipment Joe was offering, just don't mary Dee, lol.


And, what's this weed situation ... lol



You were right lol It was the theft arrest. I remembered Johnny getting caught with weed and got it mixed up with the arrest with Tito








When did Joe fire Johnny from the band?


Johnny left when then went to CBS (or stayed which ever way you want to say it) I think Ronnie didn't go with CBS too.
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Reply #76 posted 07/12/18 8:37am

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bboy87 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I wouldn't call Latoya's media tour gracious.It was downright SCANDALOUS!

and a few of the family have had trouble with the law The family has gotten a lot of flack from the press. Some of it justified but a lot of it was unfair

I liked when MJ staged an attack toward his label & head of Sony Tommy Mottolla and called him a "RACIST DEVIL"! Then threatened to not renew his contract with Sony and threw in their face that he outsmarted them with his ownership of the Sony?Atv catalog & was taking half his ownership with him. He went SAVAGE on them! Because they pulled the plug on & stopped promoting his album 'Invincible".

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #77 posted 07/12/18 10:47am

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Michael Jackson Was 'Chemically Castrated' by Late Father Joe, Claims Dr. Conrad Murray: Report

Following the death of Joe Jackson, Michael Jackson‘s controversial doctor Conrad Murray has made explosive claims about the father-son relationship, according to a new report.

Murray, who was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and served two years in prison for administering an overdose of propofol to the late King of Pop in June 2009, called 89-year-old Joe “one of the worst fathers to his children in history” in a video obtained by The Blast.

“The cruelty expressed by Michael that he experienced at the hand of his father…” Murray, 65, alleged, trailing off before adding, “The fact that he was chemically castrated to maintain his high-pitched voice is beyond words.”

This is not the first time Murray has made allegations about Michael being “chemically castrated.”

The former cardiologist previously shared similar claims in his 2016 book, This Is It! The Secret Lives of Dr. Conrad Murray and Michael Jackson, accusing Joe of forcing Michael to get hormone injections at age 12 to cure his acne and prevent his voice from changing.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/michael-jackson-was-chemically-castrated-by-late-father-joe-claims-dr-conrad-murray-report/ar-AAzWONz?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=mailsignout

I wonder did Joe really do this to MJ??? eek confused Thoughts?

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Reply #78 posted 07/12/18 12:21pm

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Astasheiks said:

Michael Jackson Was 'Chemically Castrated' by Late Father Joe, Claims Dr. Conrad Murray: Report

Following the death of Joe Jackson, Michael Jackson‘s controversial doctor Conrad Murray has made explosive claims about the father-son relationship, according to a new report.

Murray, who was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and served two years in prison for administering an overdose of propofol to the late King of Pop in June 2009, called 89-year-old Joe “one of the worst fathers to his children in history” in a video obtained by The Blast.

“The cruelty expressed by Michael that he experienced at the hand of his father…” Murray, 65, alleged, trailing off before adding, “The fact that he was chemically castrated to maintain his high-pitched voice is beyond words.”

This is not the first time Murray has made allegations about Michael being “chemically castrated.”

The former cardiologist previously shared similar claims in his 2016 book, This Is It! The Secret Lives of Dr. Conrad Murray and Michael Jackson, accusing Joe of forcing Michael to get hormone injections at age 12 to cure his acne and prevent his voice from changing.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/michael-jackson-was-chemically-castrated-by-late-father-joe-claims-dr-conrad-murray-report/ar-AAzWONz?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=mailsignout

I wonder did Joe really do this to MJ??? eek confused Thoughts?

eek eek eek eek if this is true,I hope Joe is burning in hell right now

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Reply #79 posted 07/12/18 12:57pm

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SoulAlive said:



Astasheiks said:


Michael Jackson Was 'Chemically Castrated' by Late Father Joe, Claims Dr. Conrad Murray: Report




Following the death of Joe Jackson, Michael Jackson‘s controversial doctor Conrad Murray has made explosive claims about the father-son relationship, according to a new report.


Murray, who was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and served two years in prison for administering an overdose of propofol to the late King of Pop in June 2009, called 89-year-old Joe “one of the worst fathers to his children in history” in a video obtained by The Blast.


“The cruelty expressed by Michael that he experienced at the hand of his father…” Murray, 65, alleged, trailing off before adding, “The fact that he was chemically castrated to maintain his high-pitched voice is beyond words.”




This is not the first time Murray has made allegations about Michael being “chemically castrated.”


The former cardiologist previously shared similar claims in his 2016 book, This Is It! The Secret Lives of Dr. Conrad Murray and Michael Jackson, accusing Joe of forcing Michael to get hormone injections at age 12 to cure his acne and prevent his voice from changing.



https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/michael-jackson-was-chemically-castrated-by-late-father-joe-claims-dr-conrad-murray-report/ar-AAzWONz?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=mailsignout



I wonder did Joe really do this to MJ??? eek confused Thoughts?





eek eek eek eek if this is true,I hope Joe is burning in hell right now


Conrad Murray said this. And apparently Mike told him this. Lol.
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Reply #80 posted 07/12/18 1:23pm

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SoulAlive said:

Astasheiks said:

Michael Jackson Was 'Chemically Castrated' by Late Father Joe, Claims Dr. Conrad Murray: Report

Following the death of Joe Jackson, Michael Jackson‘s controversial doctor Conrad Murray has made explosive claims about the father-son relationship, according to a new report.

Murray, who was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and served two years in prison for administering an overdose of propofol to the late King of Pop in June 2009, called 89-year-old Joe “one of the worst fathers to his children in history” in a video obtained by The Blast.

“The cruelty expressed by Michael that he experienced at the hand of his father…” Murray, 65, alleged, trailing off before adding, “The fact that he was chemically castrated to maintain his high-pitched voice is beyond words.”

This is not the first time Murray has made allegations about Michael being “chemically castrated.”

The former cardiologist previously shared similar claims in his 2016 book, This Is It! The Secret Lives of Dr. Conrad Murray and Michael Jackson, accusing Joe of forcing Michael to get hormone injections at age 12 to cure his acne and prevent his voice from changing.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/michael-jackson-was-chemically-castrated-by-late-father-joe-claims-dr-conrad-murray-report/ar-AAzWONz?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=mailsignout

I wonder did Joe really do this to MJ??? eek confused Thoughts?

eek eek eek eek if this is true,I hope Joe is burning in hell right now

I always thought Michael talked like somebody was squeezing his nuts, like the Diane Sawyer interview, etc. etc. biggrin razz lol

But seriously, don't you think the other brothers would know? Surely they would have not gone for this or would have went off on Joe.....???!!!

[Edited 7/12/18 13:28pm]

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Reply #81 posted 07/12/18 1:45pm

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Astasheiks said:

SoulAlive said:

eek eek eek eek if this is true,I hope Joe is burning in hell right now

I always thought Michael talked like somebody was squeezing his nuts, like the Diane Sawyer interview, etc. etc. biggrin razz lol

But seriously, don't you think the other brothers would know? Surely they would have not gone for this or would have went off on Joe.....???!!!

maybe it was a deep,dark family secret that they all agreed to keep quiet about hmmm

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SoulAlive said:



Astasheiks said:




SoulAlive said:





eek eek eek eek if this is true,I hope Joe is burning in hell right now




I always thought Michael talked like somebody was squeezing his nuts, like the Diane Sawyer interview, etc. etc. biggrin razz lol


But seriously, don't you think the other brothers would know? Surely they would have not gone for this or would have went off on Joe.....???!!!






maybe it was a deep,dark family secret that they all agreed to keep quiet about hmmm


If it's a sectet than how does Conrad Murray know of all people.
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Reply #83 posted 07/12/18 1:53pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

SoulAlive said:

maybe it was a deep,dark family secret that they all agreed to keep quiet about hmmm

If it's a sectet than how does Conrad Murray know of all people.

Michael told him? hmmm nuts lol,I don't know

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just the other day,Whitney's mother and Dionne Warwick released a long statement,denying(?) that Dee Dee Warwick molested Whitney and her brother.Perhaps the Jackson family will respond to Conrad's accusation soon? Stay tuned.

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SoulAlive said:



LittleBLUECorvette said:


SoulAlive said:



maybe it was a deep,dark family secret that they all agreed to keep quiet about hmmm



If it's a sectet than how does Conrad Murray know of all people.


Michael told him? hmmm nuts lol,I don't know


This would have been in La Toya or Jermaine's book if true, lol.
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Reply #86 posted 07/12/18 3:34pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

SoulAlive said:



LittleBLUECorvette said:


SoulAlive said:



maybe it was a deep,dark family secret that they all agreed to keep quiet about hmmm



If it's a sectet than how does Conrad Murray know of all people.


Michael told him? hmmm nuts lol,I don't know


This would have been in La Toya or Jermaine's book if true, lol.


Every close collaborators of MJ, and even his wife Lisa Marie Presley Said the same thing :in private MJ had à deep voice. Hé faked his voice when hé spoke publicly, to make it more childish.
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So the theory that he was castrated chimically to keep his high voice Can t be true. No doctors could have done that, or they would have been in jail.
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I heard the story the day MJ died on the radio. It was a french Old actres, very famous in France, Who said that MJ told her that Motown forced him to Take hormones to keep his juvénile voice à little longer.
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I first heard this in the early 2000, and I speculated at the time ( I was very young) that the hormones were responsible for his vitiligo. It makes some sensé.
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Did hé Take hormones? Probably.
Was hé chemically castrated ? Highly improbable, to Say the least.
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If it were case, as someone said it, Latoya would have thrown it to the press.
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She was, I think rétrospectively, responsible for breaking his carreer in the USa, because she corroborated Jordie Chandler s allégation.
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Joe Jackson made MJ à living legend, but Latoya destroyed him forever.
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RODSERLING said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:
This would have been in La Toya or Jermaine's book if true, lol.
Every close collaborators of MJ, and even his wife Lisa Marie Presley Said the same thing :in private MJ had à deep voice. Hé faked his voice when hé spoke publicly, to make it more childish. . So the theory that he was castrated chimically to keep his high voice Can t be true. No doctors could have done that, or they would have been in jail. . I heard the story the day MJ died on the radio. It was a french Old actres, very famous in France, Who said that MJ told her that Motown forced him to Take hormones to keep his juvénile voice à little longer. . I first heard this in the early 2000, and I speculated at the time ( I was very young) that the hormones were responsible for his vitiligo. It makes some sensé. . Did hé Take hormones? Probably. Was hé chemically castrated ? Highly improbable, to Say the least. . If it were case, as someone said it, Latoya would have thrown it to the press. . She was, I think rétrospectively, responsible for breaking his carreer in the USa, because she corroborated Jordie Chandler s allégation. . Joe Jackson made MJ à living legend, but Latoya destroyed him forever. [Edited 7/12/18 15:37pm]

Chemical castration is not a permenant thing, it stops when you stop being medicated.

Joe is frying wherever he is, no amount of cultural excuse is acceptable - you dont grease your kids up naked and whip them with cords and mentally torture them to keep them off the street. He was just a naturally born vile person, misogenist, homophobe and child abuser an all round nasty person. And there is lots of verifiable proof of this even if people here or the idiotic Jackson clan try to deny so.

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Reply #88 posted 07/12/18 5:35pm

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The chemica lcastration story makes no sense. If you look at MJ thorugh the years..his development was quite apropriate for an adolescent male. It was only after "Off the Wall" that he seemed to feminize himself. By which time he was no longer under Joe's control. I remember around that time , the main rumours about MJ was that he was gay and that he was having a sex change. So if he ws "chemically castrated"..he did that as an adult, not a kid.

I also do no put it pass MJ to have told Dr. Murray that story. Many people have said things like "MJ exaggerates." Also why doesn't Dr.Murray just go away. He reminds me of OJ Simpson before he was sent to prison...just don't know how to keep the hell out of the spotlight.

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It’s a shocking claim and I think the family needs to address it
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