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Reply #30 posted 09/12/17 8:45am

paisleypark4

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bboy87 said:

paisleypark4 said:

Why Metallica can do this but all what MJ issues are compilations??

Easy answer: They ain't trying to put THAT much money and material into one release lol

They've been pretty good on not putting out compilations since he's passed, considering Number Ones and The Essential Michael Jackson still sell (Essential is at #113 on the Billboard 200), but it's obvious his estate have been more focused on casual consumers (although the people who bought the previous releases were mostly the hardcore fans, who have been critical since jump for good reason)

Since he's died, we've seen:
This Is It which they could've put more effort into
Michael- no comment
Immortal- simple tie in to the Vegas show
Bad 25- could've been better but an improvement
Xscape

Off The Wall (just the CD and the Spike Lee documentary)

not to mention the DVDs. You'd think with Michael and what fans and other consumers have been asking for, it would be easy to decide on what to put out

-2 CD sets of unreleased songs, demos, and alternate takes

-Blu Ray collection of all his videos remastered

-Blu ray releases of Thriller (I assume that's coming this year) and Ghosts
-Releases of the Destiny, Triumph, Victory, Bad, and Dangerous tours

-Expanded/super deluxe editions of the solo and Jacksons albums

-The classical album he was putting together

-An album of the songs he was working on when he passed

but instead...we get "Scream" and remixes with Timbaland and Pitbull
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[Edited 9/8/17 17:28pm]

They got money up the wazoo to put out some realy good product from Michael Jackson! I did like Bad 25 release and Xscape alot actually. Off The Wall could have been better but at least the DVD was great.

Otherwise, not sure why they have not capitalized on all of his albums recieving some treatment. A History re-release, Dangerous 25, Moonwalker BlueRay, Captain Eo remaster DVD, all the jackson albums remaster with demos...so much they can do!!!

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Reply #31 posted 09/12/17 9:16am

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finger MJ.

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Reply #32 posted 09/12/17 9:46am

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It's an obvious cash grab, and I won't be buying it. 😒




I also don't understand why he's become some kind of a Halloween icon? Just because of Thriller? It just cheapens his legacy and contributions to music. Like he's a novelty act.
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Reply #33 posted 09/12/17 12:22pm

TrivialPursuit

dancerella said:

Identity said:

It's an obvious cash grab, and I won't be buying it. 😒

I also don't understand why he's become some kind of a Halloween icon? Just because of Thriller? It just cheapens his legacy and contributions to music. Like he's a novelty act.


Thriller. The 45-minute Ghosts movie. I don't think he's ever been a Halloween icon; he's just had a song that people played a lot on Halloween. He has delved into fantasy beyond those two things with Moonwalker and Captain EO as well. It makes sense to highlight that part of him that loved spooky stories or fantasy elements in his music. But no - I don't believe he's ever been considered as just a Halloween icon.

All that aside - it is just another compilation. Meh.

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Reply #34 posted 09/12/17 2:17pm

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finger MJ.

Get the fuck out of here hater.

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Reply #35 posted 09/12/17 3:29pm

dancerella

TrivialPursuit said:



dancerella said:


Identity said:

It's an obvious cash grab, and I won't be buying it. 😒



I also don't understand why he's become some kind of a Halloween icon? Just because of Thriller? It just cheapens his legacy and contributions to music. Like he's a novelty act.


Thriller. The 45-minute Ghosts movie. I don't think he's ever been a Halloween icon; he's just had a song that people played a lot on Halloween. He has delved into fantasy beyond those two things with Moonwalker and Captain EO as well. It makes sense to highlight that part of him that loved spooky stories or fantasy elements in his music. But no - I don't believe he's ever been considered as just a Halloween icon.

All that aside - it is just another compilation. Meh.




I agree this compilation is pointless. But even more relieved to hear people don't see him as a Halloween novelty act, for crying out loud.
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Reply #36 posted 09/12/17 5:43pm

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paisleypark4 said:

bboy87 said:

Easy answer: They ain't trying to put THAT much money and material into one release lol

They've been pretty good on not putting out compilations since he's passed, considering Number Ones and The Essential Michael Jackson still sell (Essential is at #113 on the Billboard 200), but it's obvious his estate have been more focused on casual consumers (although the people who bought the previous releases were mostly the hardcore fans, who have been critical since jump for good reason)

Since he's died, we've seen:
This Is It which they could've put more effort into
Michael- no comment
Immortal- simple tie in to the Vegas show
Bad 25- could've been better but an improvement
Xscape

Off The Wall (just the CD and the Spike Lee documentary)

not to mention the DVDs. You'd think with Michael and what fans and other consumers have been asking for, it would be easy to decide on what to put out

-2 CD sets of unreleased songs, demos, and alternate takes

-Blu Ray collection of all his videos remastered

-Blu ray releases of Thriller (I assume that's coming this year) and Ghosts
-Releases of the Destiny, Triumph, Victory, Bad, and Dangerous tours

-Expanded/super deluxe editions of the solo and Jacksons albums

-The classical album he was putting together

-An album of the songs he was working on when he passed

but instead...we get "Scream" and remixes with Timbaland and Pitbull
giphy.gif

[Edited 9/8/17 17:28pm]

They got money up the wazoo to put out some realy good product from Michael Jackson! I did like Bad 25 release and Xscape alot actually. Off The Wall could have been better but at least the DVD was great.

Otherwise, not sure why they have not capitalized on all of his albums recieving some treatment. A History re-release, Dangerous 25, Moonwalker BlueRay, Captain Eo remaster DVD, all the jackson albums remaster with demos...so much they can do!!!

Moonwalker is on blu ray. I showed you on Facebook when my copy came in the mail lol

someone on MattyJam's forum compared what the estate and sony has put out to what what released the deaths of Lennon, Elvis, Sinatra, Queen, George Harrison, Johnny Cash, and James Brown and it put things in perspective.

In the 8 years since his death, the estate has put out 2 documentaries, a soundtrack/greatest hits package, a movie, a remix/mashup album in Immortal, 2 re-releases, 2 albums of unreleased music, a DVD set of most of his videos, collaborated on a video game series, re-released his autobiography, and now remastering and re-releasing Thriller and Making of Thriller (it premiered in Toronto today), and a digital compilation of non-album tracks.

oh and the Bad re-released featured unreleased songs, a live album and a concert DVD. That's A LOT

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Reply #37 posted 09/12/17 10:57pm

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So the only thing new we are getting is a remix??
Damn that sucks but I suddenly have the urge to buy it but I have to resist!!!
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Reply #38 posted 09/13/17 8:40am

TrivialPursuit

dance4me3121 said:

So the only thing new we are getting is a remix?? Damn that sucks but I suddenly have the urge to buy it but I have to resist!!!


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Reply #39 posted 09/13/17 12:25pm

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If Dangerous were to get the anniversary, numbers may not be sufficient enough. Given that the story was retold regarding its legacy and how outside the US including Canada he was massive and had iconic pop culture moments for the next overall generation, and the good that came out of it during the era musically outside the controversies. Not just fan accounts but general public accounts recapturing the era and giving more validity to the re release. Also this would entail bringing to light the fact nevermind did knock dangerous off number one but there's more to that story statistically. Enough accounts are needed from a different angle than what was done for Quincy era albums being profiled to invest in commomerrations of dangerous

I don't even know why this is considered so significant. I guess because of what it "represents" but Dangerous wouldn't have stayed at #1 forever anyways. Dangerous ended up selling 32 million copies while Nevermind sold 30 million, so I am at a loss trying to understand why this point is always cited as some groundbreaking zeitgeist shift (not saying you were doing that, just speaking generally).

[Edited 9/13/17 12:26pm]

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Reply #40 posted 09/13/17 1:52pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

dance4me3121 said:

So the only thing new we are getting is a remix?? Damn that sucks but I suddenly have the urge to buy it but I have to resist!!!


lol lol lol lol That was soofunny.

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Reply #41 posted 09/13/17 2:48pm

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TrivialPursuit said:



dance4me3121 said:


So the only thing new we are getting is a remix?? Damn that sucks but I suddenly have the urge to buy it but I have to resist!!!



I'll probably buy the vinyl release since I'm trying to build my vinyl collection.
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Reply #42 posted 09/13/17 6:55pm

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lol...dude has more complilations than actual album releases.


I might be wrong, but I think The Beatles, The Beach Boys, & ABBA are still ahead of Michael when it comes to complilations.

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Reply #43 posted 09/13/17 6:57pm

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TonyVanDam said:



Graycap23 said:


lol...dude has more complilations than actual album releases.




I might be wrong, but I think The Beatles, The Beach Boys, & ABBA are still ahead of Michael when it comes to complilations.



And probably Elvis too
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Reply #44 posted 09/14/17 9:07am

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dance4me3121 said:

TonyVanDam said:


I might be wrong, but I think The Beatles, The Beach Boys, & ABBA are still ahead of Michael when it comes to complilations.

And probably Elvis too

I certainly hope they are better than this nonsense.

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Reply #45 posted 09/14/17 3:59pm

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dance4me3121 said:

TrivialPursuit said:


I'll probably buy the vinyl release since I'm trying to build my vinyl collection.

Don't encourage them. They'll only keep on with the rehash releases.

Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
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Reply #46 posted 09/14/17 9:38pm

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smoothcriminal12 said:

alphastreet said:

If Dangerous were to get the anniversary, numbers may not be sufficient enough. Given that the story was retold regarding its legacy and how outside the US including Canada he was massive and had iconic pop culture moments for the next overall generation, and the good that came out of it during the era musically outside the controversies. Not just fan accounts but general public accounts recapturing the era and giving more validity to the re release. Also this would entail bringing to light the fact nevermind did knock dangerous off number one but there's more to that story statistically. Enough accounts are needed from a different angle than what was done for Quincy era albums being profiled to invest in commomerrations of dangerous

I don't even know why this is considered so significant. I guess because of what it "represents" but Dangerous wouldn't have stayed at #1 forever anyways. Dangerous ended up selling 32 million copies while Nevermind sold 30 million, so I am at a loss trying to understand why this point is always cited as some groundbreaking zeitgeist shift (not saying you were doing that, just speaking generally).

[Edited 9/13/17 12:26pm]

not to mention a week later, Garth Brooks pushed it from #1 while Dangerous jumped from #5 to #2. Nirvana ended up being #4 behind Hammer

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Reply #47 posted 09/14/17 11:11pm

Free2BMe

I've already pre-ordered the vinyl and CD. It doesn't matter to me that I have these songs. I love the artwork. Can't wait to receive it.
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Reply #48 posted 10/13/17 6:28pm

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Reply #49 posted 10/13/17 7:23pm

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Love, Love, LOVE this video!!! The mash-up and video are pure FIRE!!!!

Thank you for posting this. biggrin
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Reply #50 posted 10/14/17 3:28am

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I own up, I bought it, did anyone else buy this album yet. At least it has Someone's Watching me on it.

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Reply #51 posted 10/14/17 6:00am

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I own up, I bought it, did anyone else buy this album yet. At least it has Someone's Watching me on it.



I bought it, and PROUDLY proclaim it!!! I am loving having all of these songs on one album and having been listening non-stop. Especially Heartbreak Hotel, Torture, Threatened, Someone's Watching Me, etc. Damn, I'm enjoying listening to all of them. I'm loving it and this new mash-up video is giving me goosebumps. It's that good.
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Reply #52 posted 10/14/17 11:15am

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paisleypark4 said:




Derek1984 said:


What would they put on Dangerous 25 that we haven't heard yet? Mediocre unfinished Bryan Loren tracks?




1. Someone Put Your Hand Out

2. Monkey Business

3. She Got It

5. If You Don't Love Me

7. Serious Effect (feat. LL Cool J)

8. Work That Body

They also can put out a disc of the video edit versions (7" versions) or any extended versions. History on the making of the album....re-release of the Dangerous Video Collection on Blue Ray



You forgot :


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9. JOY


10. For all time



Just to clarify For All Time is already on Thriller 25 when it was released in 2008, years and I have that album.
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Reply #53 posted 10/16/17 1:42pm

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Free2BMe said:

Adorecream said:

I own up, I bought it, did anyone else buy this album yet. At least it has Someone's Watching me on it.

I bought it, and PROUDLY proclaim it!!! I am loving having all of these songs on one album and having been listening non-stop. Especially Heartbreak Hotel, Torture, Threatened, Someone's Watching Me, etc. Damn, I'm enjoying listening to all of them. I'm loving it and this new mash-up video is giving me goosebumps. It's that good.

Maybe I'll buy the vinyl if its like 14.99 or something...thats more worth it than just a mp3 of all the songs I have already

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Reply #54 posted 10/16/17 2:15pm

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bboy87 said:

but instead...we get "Scream" and remixes with Timbaland and Pitbull

[Edited 9/8/17 17:28pm]

.

But wait where the remixes at?

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Reply #55 posted 10/16/17 4:36pm

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StrangeButTrue said:

bboy87 said:

but instead...we get "Scream" and remixes with Timbaland and Pitbull

[Edited 9/8/17 17:28pm]

.

But wait where the remixes at?

I think he was referring to Xscape and Bad 25

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Reply #56 posted 10/16/17 9:25pm

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paisleypark4 said:

StrangeButTrue said:

.

But wait where the remixes at?

I think he was referring to Xscape and Bad 25

Mercifully just one remix on this and it is quite short. Otherwise I bought mainly as it is a Michael Jackson release and he is up there with Prince in my world, any official or official sounding release and I buy it, no matter how mediocre or repeated it may be.

.

I agree though, the remixes on Bad 25 and Xscape are true shite. I feel sorry for anyone who bought the standard edition of Xscape with the remixes on it only.

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Reply #57 posted 10/19/17 7:35pm

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What a pointless release!

Daddy MJ was right, $ony sucks!!

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Reply #58 posted 10/20/17 4:39am

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Adorecream said:

paisleypark4 said:

I think he was referring to Xscape and Bad 25

Mercifully just one remix on this and it is quite short. Otherwise I bought mainly as it is a Michael Jackson release and he is up there with Prince in my world, any official or official sounding release and I buy it, no matter how mediocre or repeated it may be.

.

I agree though, the remixes on Bad 25 and Xscape are true shite. I feel sorry for anyone who bought the standard edition of Xscape with the remixes on it only.

I actually liked most of the remixes better than the originals especially Chicago, Blue Gangsta and Lovin' You. Gave those songs fresh sound and new air. They didnt sound like demos anymore.

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Reply #59 posted 10/20/17 7:56am

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I like the remix baby
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