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Germanegro

Sananda Maitreya's Prometheus & Pandora (New Triple CD)

Sananda Maitreya's new triple-CD album Prometheus and Pandora is now offered for pre-sale. You get the digital download free on 9-15-17 with your order.

http://www.sanandamaitreya.com/

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Reply #1 posted 08/13/17 10:19am

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Reply #2 posted 08/14/17 7:49pm

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That's too much new-TTD, frankly. I don't expect quality.

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Reply #3 posted 08/14/17 9:06pm

anc282

There's a lot of old stuff on this one that he previously gave away for free in the early days of his website, so it'll be nice to finally have this stuff on an officially pressed disc.

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Reply #4 posted 08/15/17 2:56am

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anc282 said:

There's a lot of old stuff on this one that he previously gave away for free in the early days of his website, so it'll be nice to finally have this stuff on an officially pressed disc.

Yup-- a bunch of music is curated from earlier singles releases that fans will recognize and they're sprinkled with new compositions. I've thus far enjoyed the works cultivated beyond committee agenda and look forward to hearing what's come from his otherwise jaded mind!

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Reply #5 posted 08/15/17 9:30am

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He's our new Prince so pray it is great.

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Reply #6 posted 08/15/17 9:32am

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The Marriage of Nigaro. lol

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Reply #7 posted 08/15/17 9:50am

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Color me hyped. He's figured out how to be marvelously prolific and fly under the radar.

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Reply #8 posted 08/15/17 10:32am

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I listened to a lot of the older music after Wildcard. Especially Sphinx. You all need to clean out those ears. He did lots of great tunes. Really high quality, albeit with his silly lyrics. Certainly many of these tunes are betta than the overhyped leaks from Prince recently. I will take Marry Me or On The Way To Memphis over Emotional Pump any day.

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Reply #9 posted 08/15/17 11:12am

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I've revisited the CD pre-order offer and found that the free download will consist of the 2-disc Prometheus and Pandora portion of the album collection.

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The CD collection is divided into 3 discs, namely, Prometheus, Pegasus, and Pandora. Pegasus's content appears to include alternative versions of songs featured on the Prometheus disc--variations on a theme, I guess!

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While a few of the older singles are placed in the Prometheus disc, the bulk of singles appear to be set in the Pandora disc, outlined below. I bold the older songs that I recognize:

1 Passing The Torture (Pandora) (0:33)

2 The Birds Are Singing (Pandora) (2:28)

3 Hail Mary (4:22)

4 I Don't Know How To Love (Pandora) (5:27)

5 It's Been A Long Time (4:56)

6 If U Lived Here (6:24)

7 Take Good Care Of My Heart (3:48)

8 Windows (2:48)

9 Mona Lisa's Laughing (4:11)

10 Before You Knew What Love Was (4:53)

11 Gold Strings (1:30)

12 Sacred (3:43)

13 Amoeba Strain (00:52)

14 Willow (3:10)

15 Nymphony - Reprise (1:00)

16 Amoeba (4:09)

17 Questions & Ulcers - Encore (0:47)

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Reply #10 posted 08/15/17 11:54am

luvsexy4all

why isnt this on amazon?

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Reply #11 posted 08/15/17 3:08pm

Germanegro

luvsexy4all said:

why isnt this on amazon?

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They're having a go at self distribution? Inevitably this gets asked with every new Sananda album release. I've seen 2nd party sellers offering his CDs on Amazon however, but it is not widespread. Ask them directly, maybe? I Imagine my guess is the reason why.
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Reply #12 posted 08/15/17 8:54pm

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Reply #13 posted 08/16/17 8:19am

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I like and respect him...just never got into his voice much. Wishing Well is a jam though wishe there were more pop sounds like that but Im listening to samples. Sounds coo.

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Reply #14 posted 08/16/17 9:20am

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Great singer.

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Reply #15 posted 08/16/17 9:28am

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2freaky4church1 said:

He's our new Prince so pray it is great.

He's not my new Prince. I really like TTD and I agree that he has a fantastic voice, but he's no Prince!

The old Prince is still the new Prince.

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Reply #16 posted 08/18/17 1:56am

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The bolder songs were free downloads on his old website. I'm guessing he has re-recorded them. One thing I think Sananda should invest in is using a better remastering. If it's all in house then find better remastering plugins or get a professional remastered to work on his songs. Because it devalues his music when it sounds unmastered and arguably even demo like.
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Reply #17 posted 08/18/17 4:39am

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The bolder songs were free downloads on his old website. I'm guessing he has re-recorded them. One thing I think Sananda should invest in is using a better remastering. If it's all in house then find better remastering plugins or get a professional remastered to work on his songs. Because it devalues his music when it sounds unmastered and arguably even demo like.


My guess is that the old songs are going to be the same versions as the free downloads.

You've used the word "remasterring" when you should have just used the word "mastering" - did you notice it?

I agree that he should work with someone else to provide a more professionally mixed and mastered impression on his work. His recordings have sounded straining to the ear for a long time. Adding more electronic stuff would probably help making the albums sound more interesting too. The albums have had so many songs with barebones arrangements following each other that it's just been tiring to listen to them all the way through.

[Edited 8/19/17 6:44am]

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Reply #18 posted 08/19/17 1:30pm

Germanegro

novabrkr said:

thetimefan said:

The bolder songs were free downloads on his old website. I'm guessing he has re-recorded them. One thing I think Sananda should invest in is using a better remastering. If it's all in house then find better remastering plugins or get a professional remastered to work on his songs. Because it devalues his music when it sounds unmastered and arguably even demo like.


My guess is that the old songs are going to be the same versions as the free downloads.

You've used the word "remasterring" when you should have just used the word "mastering" - did you notice it?

I agree that he should work with someone else to provide a more professionally mixed and mastered impression on his work. His recordings have sounded straining to the ear for a long time. Adding more electronic stuff would probably help making the albums sound more interesting too. The albums have had so many songs with barebones arrangements following each other that it's just been tiring to listen to them all the way through.

[Edited 8/19/17 6:44am]

I look forward to each new product that he has to offer, on the contrary, not to detract from your own impression of Sananda's quality of recordings. But his productions are so precious, that I must say that you're missing out by not listening in on these albums. Variety does ensue, and from project to project, the music definitely does not repeat itself. Some of his idenpendent projects have been mastered by Antonio Baglio of Nautilus Mastering of Milan, Italy (& Miami USA). A couple of Sananda's albums appear on the studio's discography of works listed on AllmusicDiscogs (https://www.discogs.com/l...ano?page=5). I'll say that some of the recordings have a bit of a flat stereo sound to them, which may be due to Sananda's own administrative choices toward what he's gonna be able to afford on their final production, but that's easier for me to ingore that bit of imperfection given the content and context of what Sananda is doing. I think that he has worked with different mastering engineers, as a different name of one is listed for his Angels & Vampires I and II album. That album doesn't sound bad at all, in my opinion!

[Edited 8/20/17 8:47am]

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Reply #19 posted 08/20/17 5:37am

anc282

"She's My Baby" was on the B-Side of the "Delicate" single in 1993, so that one's REAL old now. But anyway, in my opinion, if you listen to this album and his previous one, "Zugebrian Time Lords," you can immediately tell the difference between the TTD & the "Sananda" stuff. I'm no singer or player of instruments, but it's obvious to me that the "Sananda" stuff is just... very badly presented, put it that way. OK, I'll leave it at that.

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Reply #20 posted 08/20/17 6:26am

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It's probably pretty good. He usually comes correct. What was that first one he put out under his new moniker, I think it was Wildcard. I enjoyed that one for sure.
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Reply #21 posted 08/20/17 9:26am

Germanegro

2freaky4church1 said:

The Marriage of Nigaro. lol

Yah, that's quite a humourous pun toward that name! I sorted through the lyrics to the song on his website and followed web links that were set to some of the people and objects of that text. It turns out that Lochinvar is a family of Scottish gentry wherein a baron had commissioned one of North America's first settlements of British Isles' origin during the 17th century--a vineland or some kind of farm in Nova Scotia, says Wikipedia.

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Sananda is part Irish-Scots-Irish [Sorry about that!], so this mention probably references his own heritage and makes song somewhat autobiographical, mentioning creative people who've influenced his life, objects and subjects of admiration, and certain personal characteristics.

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Makes me wonder--was "Desdemona's father" really "in pain" over her marriage? bheart kiss2

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Don't be a hater, I say! lol

[Edited 8/26/17 2:05am]

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Reply #22 posted 08/20/17 1:15pm

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Germanegro said:

novabrkr said:


My guess is that the old songs are going to be the same versions as the free downloads.

You've used the word "remasterring" when you should have just used the word "mastering" - did you notice it?

I agree that he should work with someone else to provide a more professionally mixed and mastered impression on his work. His recordings have sounded straining to the ear for a long time. Adding more electronic stuff would probably help making the albums sound more interesting too. The albums have had so many songs with barebones arrangements following each other that it's just been tiring to listen to them all the way through.

[Edited 8/19/17 6:44am]

I look forward to each new product that he has to offer, on the contrary, not to detract from your own impression of Sananda's quality of recordings. But his productions are so precious, that I must say that you're missing out by not listening in on these albums. Variety does ensue, and from project to project, the music definitely does not repeat itself. Some of his idenpendent projects have been mastered by Antonio Baglio of Nautilus Mastering of Milan, Italy (& Miami USA). A couple of Sananda's albums appear on the studio's discography of works listed on AllmusicDiscogs (https://www.discogs.com/l...ano?page=5). I'll say that some of the recordings have a bit of a flat stereo sound to them, which may be due to Sananda's own administrative choices toward what he's gonna be able to afford on their final production, but that's easier for me to ingore that bit of imperfection given the content and context of what Sananda is doing. I think that he has worked with different mastering engineers, as a different name of one is listed for his Angels & Vampires I and II album. That album doesn't sound bad at all, in my opinion!

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The problem with the overall sound on the albums isn't really the mastering. It's the mixing, the way the instruments have been recorded and the arrangements being plain dull on too many of the tracks.

A lot of people mix up mastering and the final stages of the mixing process with each other. It's probably because many of those people have done home recordings themselves and have used the same computer programs ("plugins") for the mixing and the mastering. Typically, people who do mastering professionally do not change the sound of the recordings significantly. Some do, but that's really just due to the abuse of the mastering tools.

I have listened to all of the TTD / SM albums. I have listened to his music for over twenty years and know all of the records he put out as TTD by heart. Some of my favourite tracks by him are B-sides, so yeah, I am a fan. The new albums have all been disappointing. I've found a few tracks here and there that I have liked, but the albums contain a lot of stuff that he obviously hasn't made seriously and it makes it tough to listen to them all the way through.

"Oh Jacaranda, I wanna be your panda".

Oh, c'mon. lol

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Reply #23 posted 08/20/17 3:01pm

Germanegro

novabrkr said:

Germanegro said:

I look forward to each new product that he has to offer, on the contrary, not to detract from your own impression of Sananda's quality of recordings. But his productions are so precious, that I must say that you're missing out by not listening in on these albums. Variety does ensue, and from project to project, the music definitely does not repeat itself. Some of his idenpendent projects have been mastered by Antonio Baglio of Nautilus Mastering of Milan, Italy (& Miami USA). A couple of Sananda's albums appear on the studio's discography of works listed on AllmusicDiscogs (https://www.discogs.com/l...ano?page=5). I'll say that some of the recordings have a bit of a flat stereo sound to them, which may be due to Sananda's own administrative choices toward what he's gonna be able to afford on their final production, but that's easier for me to ingore that bit of imperfection given the content and context of what Sananda is doing. I think that he has worked with different mastering engineers, as a different name of one is listed for his Angels & Vampires I and II album. That album doesn't sound bad at all, in my opinion!

[Edited 8/20/17 8:47am]


The problem with the overall sound on the albums isn't really the mastering. It's the mixing, the way the instruments have been recorded and the arrangements being plain dull on too many of the tracks.

A lot of people mix up mastering and the final stages of the mixing process with each other. It's probably because many of those people have done home recordings themselves and have used the same computer programs ("plugins") for the mixing and the mastering. Typically, people who do mastering professionally do not change the sound of the recordings significantly. Some do, but that's really just due to the abuse of the mastering tools.

I have listened to all of the TTD / SM albums. I have listened to his music for over twenty years and know all of the records he put out as TTD by heart. Some of my favourite tracks by him are B-sides, so yeah, I am a fan. The new albums have all been disappointing. I've found a few tracks here and there that I have liked, but the albums contain a lot of stuff that he obviously hasn't made seriously and it makes it tough to listen to them all the way through.

"Oh Jacaranda, I wanna be your panda".

Oh, c'mon. lol

It's cool that you're a fan. I can respect your opinion regarding the arrangements that he does today. He's working a different angle to his craft that speaks for itself and not everyone will care for it. I differ in reaction to his later works, as for me they are a refreshing change of pace--the simplicity and space of some of them allows me room to think and react. So obviously I enjoy the music. I enjoy so many of the songs, even the enigmatic ones--I can't easily surmise what is "Giraffe" about, but it sounds so cool.

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I cannot relate to many of the problems that people oberve in the quality of the recordings. I too can detect imperfections, but the sound is warm with plenty of varience in tones and textures of all the keyboards, percussions, horn and string arrangements, and those many lovey guitars and stringed instruments, and I listen to enough music across the board to feel that what I'm hearing from him today is fine. When I hear Sananda and the Nudge Nudge's live performances they sound pretty much the same, so their integrity stands for me. I guess record engineering can be a point for the audiophiles to dither upon, and perhaps he is listening to those who complain about it and may make some favorable changes along the way. shrug

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I do like his occasional whimsical approach to lyrics--that's the guy, unadulterated, and you're right to laugh, it also gives me a chuckle every time! The world needs levity (and fairy tales, parables, and such) to help us process our experience. He's penned a whole lot of really great lyrics, too, both earlier and today. Amen to it all.

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Reply #24 posted 08/20/17 11:33pm

anc282

mrwiggles said:

It's probably pretty good. He usually comes correct. What was that first one he put out under his new moniker, I think it was Wildcard. I enjoyed that one for sure.

The earlier copies had both names, but then later ones just had the "Sananda" name on it, but IMO technically his first TRUE "Sananda" album is "Angels & Vampires."

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Reply #25 posted 08/27/17 4:57pm

Germanegro

Writings: Prometheus and Pandora - Intro (Treehouse Publishing.com)

Chapter 1: Spades & Queens (Passing the Torture).

"The World Would Never Again know A Love Story as Profound & Provoking As PROMETHEUS & PANDORA Nor could the Earth Afford Again To Withstand it."

http://www.sanandamaitrey...dora-intro

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Reply #26 posted 08/27/17 8:05pm

anc282

He points out that ciuccio is Italian for baby pacifier, but it also means donkey.

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Reply #27 posted 08/28/17 12:07pm

Germanegro

^^^anc282, your interpretation could be slang or false(a clarification was provided to me!).

http://context.reverso.ne...sh/ciuccio

https://www.instagram.com...s/ciuccio/

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Pacifier, it is! yay!

*Or follow the discussion below for further insight to the Italian "ciuccio" vs "ciuco."

https://forum.wordreferen...cio.15768/.

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Reply #28 posted 08/28/17 4:44pm

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Yes! cool

2freaky4church1 said:

Great singer.

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T.T.D. to Me = 1987-1988 New - Cocky, future king ---> Maybe? era

1989 ------> New - Less Cocky, future king ---> Maybe? era lol




novabrkr said:

Germanegro said:

I look forward to each new product that he has to offer, on the contrary, not to detract from your own impression of Sananda's quality of recordings. But his productions are so precious, that I must say that you're missing out by not listening in on these albums. Variety does ensue, and from project to project, the music definitely does not repeat itself. Some of his idenpendent projects have been mastered by Antonio Baglio of Nautilus Mastering of Milan, Italy (& Miami USA). A couple of Sananda's albums appear on the studio's discography of works listed on AllmusicDiscogs (https://www.discogs.com/l...ano?page=5). I'll say that some of the recordings have a bit of a flat stereo sound to them, which may be due to Sananda's own administrative choices toward what he's gonna be able to afford on their final production, but that's easier for me to ingore that bit of imperfection given the content and context of what Sananda is doing. I think that he has worked with different mastering engineers, as a different name of one is listed for his Angels & Vampires I and II album. That album doesn't sound bad at all, in my opinion!

[Edited 8/20/17 8:47am]


The problem with the overall sound on the albums isn't really the mastering. It's the mixing, the way the instruments have been recorded and the arrangements being plain dull on too many of the tracks.

A lot of people mix up mastering and the final stages of the mixing process with each other. It's probably because many of those people have done home recordings themselves and have used the same computer programs ("plugins") for the mixing and the mastering. Typically, people who do mastering professionally do not change the sound of the recordings significantly. Some do, but that's really just due to the abuse of the mastering tools.

I have listened to all of the TTD / SM albums. I have listened to his music for over twenty years and know all of the records he put out as TTD by heart. Some of my favourite tracks by him are B-sides, so yeah, I am a fan. The new albums have all been disappointing. I've found a few tracks here and there that I have liked, but the albums contain a lot of stuff that he obviously hasn't made seriously and it makes it tough to listen to them all the way through.

"Oh Jacaranda, I wanna be your panda".

Oh, c'mon. lol

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