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Reply #30 posted 06/15/17 6:31pm

RJOrion

dacca said:

RJOrion said:

dacca said: yep...have you seen the video of him playing rhythm guitar over the slum village - "conant gardens" instrumental?...wow...

nah i haven't! I gotta check that out

search: "MonoNeon guitar vibe on SLUM VILLAGE" @ youtube

(sorry, i dont know how to post youtube videos here)

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Reply #31 posted 06/15/17 6:57pm

dacca

RJOrion said:

dacca said:

nah i haven't! I gotta check that out

search: "MonoNeon guitar vibe on SLUM VILLAGE" @ youtube

(sorry, i dont know how to post youtube videos here)

will do!

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Reply #32 posted 06/16/17 2:35pm

thekidsgirl

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Bjork.

If you will, so will I
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Reply #33 posted 06/16/17 3:57pm

MD431Madcat

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NOW ?

"holding grudges and anger is a waste of energy, We are all going to die. We are all evolving, trying to become better people, so let it go.”
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Reply #34 posted 06/16/17 4:11pm

heathilly

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NOW ?

Hes actually does look older although he still does look young. You can see the youth in the 1990 photo. I just seen pic like this with adriana lima. As far as a music genius he just been recreating I cant help it by Mj for 20 years in my opinion.

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Reply #35 posted 06/16/17 4:35pm

MD431Madcat

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I 100% do not agree with you!

Mr Williams is extremely prolific and MUCH more 'successful' than even our Beloved PRINCE

when it comes to consistantly making music that the general public can dig!


eathilly said:

MD431Madcat said:

NOW ?

Hes actually does look older although he still does look young. You can see the youth in the 1990 photo. I just seen pic like this with adriana lima. As far as a music genius he just been recreating I cant help it by Mj for 20 years in my opinion.

"holding grudges and anger is a waste of energy, We are all going to die. We are all evolving, trying to become better people, so let it go.”
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Reply #36 posted 06/16/17 5:21pm

dacca

MD431Madcat said:

I 100% do not agree with you!

Mr Williams is extremely prolific and MUCH more 'successful' than even our Beloved PRINCE

when it comes to consistantly making music that the general public can dig!


eathilly said:

Hes actually does look older although he still does look young. You can see the youth in the 1990 photo. I just seen pic like this with adriana lima. As far as a music genius he just been recreating I cant help it by Mj for 20 years in my opinion.

Yeah I love Pharrell. I dont know whether I'd agree that he is/was more successful than Prince but he is definately an influential producer. He also has said in interveiws that he loves steely dan and he thinks the nightfly is in his top 3 albums so I can definately dig that haha and his song It Girl is so good...

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Reply #37 posted 06/16/17 5:22pm

dacca

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Bjork.

Ive been meaning to get into bjork, what would be a good place to start?

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Reply #38 posted 06/16/17 5:59pm

RJOrion

Chad Hugo did alot of the heavy lifting on most of Pharrell's classic joints....he never got the credit he deserves... Pharrell's music is not nearly as good when he works without him...

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Reply #39 posted 06/16/17 6:24pm

heathilly

MD431Madcat said:

I 100% do not agree with you!

Mr Williams is extremely prolific and MUCH more 'successful' than even our Beloved PRINCE

when it comes to consistantly making music that the general public can dig!


eathilly said:

Hes actually does look older although he still does look young. You can see the youth in the 1990 photo. I just seen pic like this with adriana lima. As far as a music genius he just been recreating I cant help it by Mj for 20 years in my opinion.

I didnt say he was talentless I like his reiterations of mj music personally I just struggle to call him genius. I like that song he did with jayz Frontin.

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Reply #40 posted 06/16/17 6:32pm

dacca

heathilly said:

MD431Madcat said:

I 100% do not agree with you!

Mr Williams is extremely prolific and MUCH more 'successful' than even our Beloved PRINCE

when it comes to consistantly making music that the general public can dig!


I didnt say he was talentless I like his reiterations of mj music personally I just struggle to call him genius. I like that song he did with jayz Frontin.

Yeah like i dont know if hes a genius but songs like fun fun fun are really cool (if you ignore the lyrics haha), reminds me heaps of I.G.Y. by Donald Fagen and that kinda steely dan sensibility that I love and like I think songs like It Girl are great but imo he has yet to put out a masterwork himself, though he has worked on a few (TPAB etc.)

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Reply #41 posted 06/16/17 6:39pm

heathilly

dacca said:

heathilly said:

I didnt say he was talentless I like his reiterations of mj music personally I just struggle to call him genius. I like that song he did with jayz Frontin.

Yeah like i dont know if hes a genius but songs like fun fun fun are really cool (if you ignore the lyrics haha), reminds me heaps of I.G.Y. by Donald Fagen and that kinda steely dan sensibility that I love and like I think songs like It Girl are great but imo he has yet to put out a masterwork himself, though he has worked on a few (TPAB etc.)

That brings up an interesting observation can someone do genius work and not be a genius? I believe people have moments of genius and their standard work is dependent on there actual skills how refined those skills are and personal creativity.

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Reply #42 posted 06/16/17 6:47pm

dacca

heathilly said:

dacca said:

Yeah like i dont know if hes a genius but songs like fun fun fun are really cool (if you ignore the lyrics haha), reminds me heaps of I.G.Y. by Donald Fagen and that kinda steely dan sensibility that I love and like I think songs like It Girl are great but imo he has yet to put out a masterwork himself, though he has worked on a few (TPAB etc.)

That brings up an interesting observation can someone do genius work and not be a genius? I believe people have moments of genius and their standard work is dependent on there actual skills how refined those skills are and personal creativity.

Yeah i definately think thats true, but yeah i would think a genius is able to spontaneously produce amazing work and contanlty raise the bar, which I dont know if pharrel does but i can say that of alot of zappa's work and artists like the guys in steely dan put out a masterpeice every year in the 70s as Prince did in the 80s. I guess you could also say that about bands like zeppelin did this as well though Im not sure if I'd consider all their work to be of genius standard, though imo the rain song definately is haha

But yeah watching guys like Jacob collier on youtube kinda shows me the level of brilliance guys like that are on

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Reply #43 posted 06/16/17 7:28pm

RJOrion

Pharrells best joints always been with/for Jay or The Clipse...

"Frontin"

"Excuse Me Miss"

"Change Clothes" (my alltime favorite Neptunes beat)

"I Just Wanna Love U (Give It To Me)"

"Grindin"

"Cot Damn"

"Momma Im So Sorry"

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Reply #44 posted 06/17/17 7:41am

MD431Madcat

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That's a lot of hits! especially when you consider its not even close to a full list of his hits and its about 1% of his total output! cool

RJOrion said:

Pharrells best joints always been with/for Jay or The Clipse...

"Frontin"

"Excuse Me Miss"

"Change Clothes" (my alltime favorite Neptunes beat)

"I Just Wanna Love U (Give It To Me)"

"Grindin"

"Cot Damn"

"Momma Im So Sorry"

"holding grudges and anger is a waste of energy, We are all going to die. We are all evolving, trying to become better people, so let it go.”
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Reply #45 posted 06/17/17 7:44am

MD431Madcat

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Prince and MJ spent the latter part of their careers chasing 'hits' pharrell and chad (neptunes)

made nothing but hits for nearly a decade! and the hits are still coming! wink

dacca said:

MD431Madcat said:

I 100% do not agree with you!

Mr Williams is extremely prolific and MUCH more 'successful' than even our Beloved PRINCE

when it comes to consistantly making music that the general public can dig!


Yeah I love Pharrell. I dont know whether I'd agree that he is/was more successful than Prince but he is definately an influential producer. He also has said in interveiws that he loves steely dan and he thinks the nightfly is in his top 3 albums so I can definately dig that haha and his song It Girl is so good...

"holding grudges and anger is a waste of energy, We are all going to die. We are all evolving, trying to become better people, so let it go.”
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Reply #46 posted 06/18/17 5:49am

TheFman

MD431Madcat said:

That's a lot of hits! especially when you consider its not even close to a full list of his hits and its about 1% of his total output! cool

RJOrion said:

Pharrells best joints always been with/for Jay or The Clipse...

"Frontin"

"Excuse Me Miss"

"Change Clothes" (my alltime favorite Neptunes beat)

"I Just Wanna Love U (Give It To Me)"

"Grindin"

"Cot Damn"

"Momma Im So Sorry"

hits? than why dont i know any of that?

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Reply #47 posted 06/18/17 7:04am

Dasein

2Pac

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Reply #48 posted 06/18/17 7:16am

MD431Madcat

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You've been Dead for the past decade or not hip to what's happening in black music?

TheFman said:

MD431Madcat said:

That's a lot of hits! especially when you consider its not even close to a full list of his hits and its about 1% of his total output! cool

hits? than why dont i know any of that?

"holding grudges and anger is a waste of energy, We are all going to die. We are all evolving, trying to become better people, so let it go.”
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Reply #49 posted 06/19/17 3:05am

TheFman

MD431Madcat said:

You've been Dead for the past decade or not hip to what's happening in black music?

TheFman said:

hits? than why dont i know any of that?

if any music is good enough, it will come to me

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Reply #50 posted 06/19/17 10:24am

heathilly

TheFman said:



MD431Madcat said:


You've been Dead for the past decade or not hip to what's happening in black music?



TheFman said:



hits? than why dont i know any of that?





if any music is good enough, it will come to me


Meh I disagree more like any artist with a giant machine behind them will come to you. Doesn't matter how good the music is it means nothing if there's nothing backing it and pushing it out front in the public.
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Reply #51 posted 06/19/17 4:53pm

mjscarousal

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Dasein said:

2Pac

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Stand, you`ve been sitting much too long, there`s a permanent crease in your right or wrong.~Sly Stone
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Reply #52 posted 06/20/17 1:30am

EmmaMcG

I think a lot of people on here are confusing their musical preferences with actual musical genius.
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Reply #53 posted 06/20/17 4:53am

dacca

EmmaMcG said:

I think a lot of people on here are confusing their musical preferences with actual musical genius.

yeah it is getting that way haha

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Reply #54 posted 06/20/17 4:36pm

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EmmaMcG said:

I think a lot of people on here are confusing their musical preferences with actual musical genius.

Nothing new under the sun. Enlighten us please.

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Reply #55 posted 06/24/17 8:42am

Psychoniff

Curtis Mayfield, why? Well he was "master stoyteller" as the late Don Cornelius once said and quite prolific songwriter. He wrote almost ALL his own songs from the his time with Impresssions right up til the last album before his death and wrote 100s of songs for other artists like The Staple Singers and The Five Stairsteps. To give you an examle, he wtote "Gypsy Women" when he was 12 years old.....that's f**king genius right their.

Also:

Prince

David Bowie

Stevie Wonder

Sly Stone

Brian Wilson

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