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Thread started 12/07/18 5:27am

thebanishedone

Why is Jam Of The Year tour so hated here?

I was watching JOTY tour live from Vegas oct24 and i noticed the following

Prince is very inspired on guitar,there is a lot of guitar

playing by Prince

and he played amazing solos on One Of Us ,The

Cross and all the other songs.

Prince is swearing,hes nasty,he is very inspired in2

performances and delivery is strong

the show have hits but its not a greatest hits show.

so why fans dislike this tour?

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Reply #1 posted 12/07/18 5:42am

JorisE73

thebanishedone said:

I was watching JOTY tour live from Vegas oct24 and i noticed the following

Prince is very inspired on guitar,there is a lot of guitar

playing by Prince

and he played amazing solos on One Of Us ,The

Cross and all the other songs.

Prince is swearing,hes nasty,he is very inspired in2

performances and delivery is strong

the show have hits but its not a greatest hits show.

so why fans dislike this tour?


It was just boring compared to the tours that came before, it wasn't that bad, but Prince set the bar pretty high and this tour just seemed sterile compared to the rest.

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Reply #2 posted 12/07/18 6:34am

dodger

IMO it suffered in the same way Emancipation did because of the change of band.

Losing Michael B and Sonny, and to a lesser extent the Hornheads, was the end of a great era for me. He lost that 'NPG live band sound' in concert and on record.

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Reply #3 posted 12/07/18 8:02am

jmfd

I wouldn't say it's a "hated" tour, but back in 1997 it was seen by fans as being "substandard" compared to the tours he did previously.

The backing band was so-so talented, the stage production was far below his norm, and there was very little prep time to buy tix beforehand by the fans.

Prince was very much in need of $ and doing this tour on the cheap was a quick way to accomplish that goal. He even promoted much of the tour with a little help from Billy Sparks, which also saved a ton of $.


However, looking back at it now in hindsight, the tour was way better than we realized. At least as far as Prince was concerned. He really put out a great effort every night, danced like he was on fire and played a ton of instruments.

The stage production got better as the tour progressed. He would add different features to it, like the Symbol lighting rig, etc.

However nothing could hide the terrible drumming of Kirky J.

Michael B was very much so missed.

Those are my 2 cents worth of a answer to your question.

[Edited 12/7/18 8:05am]

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Reply #4 posted 12/07/18 8:41am

antonb

wasnt it set up to make money for his charity? So i dont think he was desperate for money. Alot of it went to charity.

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Reply #5 posted 12/07/18 8:49am

Krystalkisses

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I really regret not seeing it back when he played Mpls in '97 but my father was like "No way" ..so what can you do? But it would have been awesome.
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Reply #6 posted 12/07/18 9:44am

AnnaSantana

It's not hated by me. I loved that tour, saw it at least 5 times.

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Reply #7 posted 12/07/18 10:04am

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same here...saw it 5 times and loved it. i thought the impromptu nature of the date/venue announcements was a lot of fun. i got to see 3 cities i'd never been to. i got to take my lady to 2 shows. i got to meet and thank prince...i've seen better, i've seen worse. i've never seen a (prince) show i hated. he was all in and threw a great party.

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Reply #8 posted 12/07/18 10:06am

AnnaSantana

peedub said:

same here...saw it 5 times and loved it. i thought the impromptu nature of the date/venue announcements was a lot of fun. i got to see 3 cities i'd never been to. i got to take my lady to 2 shows. i got to meet and thank prince...i've seen better, i've seen worse. i've never seen a (prince) show i hated. he was all in and threw a great party.

The aftershows on that tour were phenomenal.

finger DONALD TRUMP
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Reply #9 posted 12/07/18 10:31am

peedub

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AnnaSantana said:

peedub said:

same here...saw it 5 times and loved it. i thought the impromptu nature of the date/venue announcements was a lot of fun. i got to see 3 cities i'd never been to. i got to take my lady to 2 shows. i got to meet and thank prince...i've seen better, i've seen worse. i've never seen a (prince) show i hated. he was all in and threw a great party.

The aftershows on that tour were phenomenal.


i didn't get to see any...we went to 2 afterparties, hoping he would play. he didn't show at one. he came to the one in pittsburgh, but didn't play. he hung out in the mezzanine with his bodyguards and enjoyed the dj. that's where i got to meet him.

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Reply #10 posted 12/07/18 11:51am

luv2tha99s

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peedub said:



AnnaSantana said:




peedub said:


same here...saw it 5 times and loved it. i thought the impromptu nature of the date/venue announcements was a lot of fun. i got to see 3 cities i'd never been to. i got to take my lady to 2 shows. i got to meet and thank prince...i've seen better, i've seen worse. i've never seen a (prince) show i hated. he was all in and threw a great party.




The aftershows on that tour were phenomenal.




i didn't get to see any...we went to 2 afterparties, hoping he would play. he didn't show at one. he came to the one in pittsburgh, but didn't play. he hung out in the mezzanine with his bodyguards and enjoyed the dj. that's where i got to meet him.


That sounds awesome. How did u get his attention if I may ask? Even if he was right in front of me and seemed like he wanted to chat, I wouldn't have know what to say. Maybe after some liquid courage though...
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Reply #11 posted 12/07/18 12:07pm

peedub

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luv2tha99s said:

peedub said:


i didn't get to see any...we went to 2 afterparties, hoping he would play. he didn't show at one. he came to the one in pittsburgh, but didn't play. he hung out in the mezzanine with his bodyguards and enjoyed the dj. that's where i got to meet him.

That sounds awesome. How did u get his attention if I may ask? Even if he was right in front of me and seemed like he wanted to chat, I wouldn't have know what to say. Maybe after some liquid courage though...


he was about 2 steps below and in front of me in what i recall was some sort of private booth area in the mezzanine. he was standing between 2 bodyguards, watching the dance floor. i assumed he was gauging the crowd in order to decide if he wanted to play or not. i reached down and put my hand on his shoulder. he turned and i said 'thank you for the show'. he gave me (maybe a slightly annoyed) smile and a peace sign. a bodyguard shoo-ed me away. so, maybe not really a 'meeting', but the experience of being able to personally thank him is a memory i treasure. and, yeah...i was pretty lit.

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Reply #12 posted 12/07/18 12:52pm

jmfd

antonb said:

wasnt it set up to make money for his charity? So i dont think he was desperate for money. Alot of it went to charity.

Partially yes, or at least the early on in 1997. But he was mainly in dire need of $, he was spending freely like it was 1984 but with not so much coming in. If you remember, he fired almost everyone that was left at Paisley Park right after he got back from the Hawaii shows order to save on payroll. This was probably the third purge or so since about 1989.

[Edited 12/7/18 12:54pm]

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Reply #13 posted 12/07/18 1:50pm

Genesia

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I thought it was great. But then, I had very good seats and it was the first time seeing him since the Purple Rain tour, when I sat in the nosebleeds.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #14 posted 12/07/18 2:34pm

motherfunka

I wouldn't say I hated it, but it was a huge let down to have a new 3 CD set and hardly anything was played from it. That was a first. I saw 3 regular shows and 2 after shows at Paisley Park.

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Reply #15 posted 12/07/18 4:41pm

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motherfunka said:

I wouldn't say I hated it, but it was a huge let down to have a new 3 CD set and hardly anything was played from it. That was a first. I saw 3 regular shows and 2 after shows at Paisley Park.



Yeah, I never understood why he abandoned the album like that. I know some fans theorised about him associating the record with the loss of his baby etc, and there could be something in that, but it's such a shame. Songs like The Holy River and The Love We Make should've been live staples on the JOTY tour. And I'm gutted he never played In This Bed Eye Scream or Joint 2 Joint or FLSMW live.

Even in the subsequent years, the only Emancipation cut that got any live in the live shows was The Love We Make.
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Reply #16 posted 12/08/18 6:54am

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Hell, I loved it. It was the first time I got to see Prince in concert twice in the same year (July and December). And that December show...OMG!!! Good damn times indeed! touched mushy

"Those that KNEW the number and didn't call...FUCK ALL Y'ALL!"
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Reply #17 posted 12/08/18 7:43am

thebanishedone

terrible drumming by Kirk???? r u sure? he was not a virtoso

but he is a very good in the pocket drummer never missed a beat.

if u think terrible look nout 4 metallicas drummer

[Edited 12/8/18 7:47am]

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Reply #18 posted 12/08/18 9:23am

jdcxc

Hated by who? Brilliant show...front row seats, my best friend made it on stage and a lot of memories.
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Reply #19 posted 12/14/18 1:04am

PeteSilas

no idea, it never got to seattle, but one guy who said he saw it complained that prince wouldn't sing the wb hits,he had the band play the songs and let the audience sing them but he wouldn't.

Prince.org: With fans like these he didn't need haters.
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