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Musicology, 3121, and Planet Earth - [Pre-Order Available Now]

So apparently Sony is going to re release physically post 1993 album.
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They begin with these 3 albums, available on CD and vinyle.
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Best news of the year for me.
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If they really release the 23 albums unavailable next year, Prince will be a huge physical seller.

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https://www.bullmoose.com...7AbZcAJmE8

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UPDATE:

You can now pre-order the albums from the Prince|Official store

Link: https://store.princeestate.com/store/

Musicology - 3121 - Planet Earth
Pre-order Legacy re-issues: https://store.princeestat...229_104317

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Reply #1 posted 11/30/18 1:11am

NorthC

Interesting. I'd love to have the first two on vinyl.
I may disagree with everything you say, but I will defend your right to say it.
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Reply #2 posted 11/30/18 4:20am

feeluupp

Great news... Wonder what happened with the WB re releases for vinyl... It stopped at SOTT if I remember correctly.

Didn't they announce The Black Album too last year then cancelled that re release.

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Reply #3 posted 11/30/18 4:25am

feeluupp

Musicology was released as a promo on vinyl... 3121 there is some debate, if it ever was released as a promo, they said that one "released" was actually a boot.

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Reply #4 posted 11/30/18 4:42am

RODSERLING

Musicology and 3121 will be double vinyl releases.
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Reply #5 posted 11/30/18 5:01am

darkroman

feeluupp said:

Great news... Wonder what happened with the WB re releases for vinyl... It stopped at SOTT if I remember correctly.

Didn't they announce The Black Album too last year then cancelled that re release.


It was a shame the follow-up releases were cancelled.

From my understanding the cancelled vinyl reissues are;

Black - I don't know what the scheduled date was.
Lovesxy - 31 December 2016.
Graffiti Bridge - 22 November 2016.
Diamonds & Pearls - 22 November 2016.
Symbol - 31 December 2016.
Batman - 31 December 2016.

Hopefully the Sony re-issues will give us vinyl formats we don't have as everyone will already have the CDs.

Time will tell.

wink

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Reply #6 posted 11/30/18 6:19am

coldasice

RODSERLING said:

So apparently Sony is going to re release physically post 1993 album.
.
They begin with these 3 albums, available on CD and vinyle.
.
Best news of the year for me.
.
If they really release the 23 albums unavailable next year, Prince will be a huge physical seller.

I wish they would have started with different titles. These 3 won’t have much appeal to the masses
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Reply #7 posted 11/30/18 6:43am

PURPLEIZED3121

Meh!

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Reply #8 posted 11/30/18 8:35am

skywalker

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coldasice said:

RODSERLING said:
So apparently Sony is going to re release physically post 1993 album. . They begin with these 3 albums, available on CD and vinyle. . Best news of the year for me. . If they really release the 23 albums unavailable next year, Prince will be a huge physical seller.
I wish they would have started with different titles. These 3 won’t have much appeal to the masses

Depends on if/how they are promoted. The masses will buy/get into anything if it's sold correctly.

[Edited 11/30/18 8:35am]

"New Power slide...."
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Reply #9 posted 11/30/18 8:53am

darkroman

skywalker said:

coldasice said:

RODSERLING said: I wish they would have started with different titles. These 3 won’t have much appeal to the masses

Depends on if/how they are promoted. The masses will buy/get into anything if it's sold correctly.

[Edited 11/30/18 8:35am]


Sony are only about units - so it will have to sell otherwise they will be out.

I feel there is very little post 1993 the masses would be interested in.

Yet we hardcore fans will take what we can get and once more I'll be adding multiple pressings to releases we already have.

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Reply #10 posted 11/30/18 8:56am

greyhoodiegirl

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Awesome news!
These kind of fill the gap between The Rainbow Children and Lotusflow3r in my vinyl collection collection yes
Would be awesome to see NEWS and 20Ten next....
The Slaughterhouse, The Chocolate Invasion..
Xpectation...C-Note...Newpower Soul...etc!
So many albums waiting to be pressed to wax biggrin
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Reply #11 posted 11/30/18 9:02am

greyhoodiegirl

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also....source?
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Reply #12 posted 11/30/18 9:18am

Romeoblu

They are listed on Amazon UK. The vinyl prices are extortionate.

Musicology and 3121 are £72.00

Planet Earth is £59
[Edited 11/30/18 9:20am]
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Reply #13 posted 11/30/18 9:26am

Empress

Why? Have they been remastered?

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Reply #14 posted 11/30/18 11:39am

greyhoodiegirl

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Romeoblu said:

They are listed on Amazon UK. The vinyl prices are extortionate.

Musicology and 3121 are £72.00

Planet Earth is £59
[Edited 11/30/18 9:20am]


Thanks...hopefully these prices are placeholders and will come down...
Links for anyone interested:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/...logy+vinyl

https://www.amazon.co.uk/...3121+vinyl

https://www.amazon.co.uk/...arth+vinyl
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Reply #15 posted 11/30/18 11:45am

greyhoodiegirl

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Also- they all say “Jap Import” in the description..
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Reply #16 posted 11/30/18 12:02pm

FullLipsDotNos
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I want new music, nothing else!!!

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Reply #17 posted 11/30/18 12:24pm

luvsexy4all

these r vinyl only

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Reply #18 posted 11/30/18 12:34pm

luvsexy4all

finally released --illegally --Small Club CD............why is amazon selling bootlegs of prince , van halen etc ????

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Reply #19 posted 12/01/18 3:07am

RODSERLING

darkroman said:



feeluupp said:


Great news... Wonder what happened with the WB re releases for vinyl... It stopped at SOTT if I remember correctly.



Didn't they announce The Black Album too last year then cancelled that re release.




It was a shame the follow-up releases were cancelled.

From my understanding the cancelled vinyl reissues are;

Black - I don't know what the scheduled date was.
Lovesxy - 31 December 2016.
Graffiti Bridge - 22 November 2016.
Diamonds & Pearls - 22 November 2016.
Symbol - 31 December 2016.
Batman - 31 December 2016.

Hopefully the Sony re-issues will give us vinyl formats we don't have as everyone will already have the CDs.

Time will tell.

wink



These albums were sold only during their promotion, then out of print.
It s been more than 10 years, 15 for Musicology in 2019 (!) That these albums are not available anymore in wrecastore, or Amazon at. A normal price.
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So no, not everybody has it, that s for sure.
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Reply #20 posted 12/01/18 3:48am

Moonbeam

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Great news! I will look to pick up the vinyls for sure.
Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you!
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Reply #21 posted 12/01/18 5:49am

RODSERLING

coldasice said:

RODSERLING said:

So apparently Sony is going to re release physically post 1993 album.
.
They begin with these 3 albums, available on CD and vinyle.
.
Best news of the year for me.
.
If they really release the 23 albums unavailable next year, Prince will be a huge physical seller.

I wish they would have started with different titles. These 3 won’t have much appeal to the masses


No you can t be more wrong : these trilogy are the 3 best selling albums post Warner.
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It symbolises the Prince commercial come back he made.
Musicology made him the best paid musician of 2004.
3121 is his first album to go directly to #1 in the USa.
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Planèt Earth was promoted by a 21 nights tour in the UK, it sold more 3.5 millions by the daily mail only. And how can you forget the Superbowl show? The intronisation to the RNR hall of fame?
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Prince was hype all over again.
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Contrary to the period where he changed his name...
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Reply #22 posted 12/01/18 2:06pm

controversy99

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RODSERLING said:

coldasice said:


I wish they would have started with different titles. These 3 won’t have much appeal to the masses


No you can t be more wrong : these trilogy are the 3 best selling albums post Warner.
.
It symbolises the Prince commercial come back he made.
Musicology made him the best paid musician of 2004.
3121 is his first album to go directly to #1 in the USa.
.
Planèt Earth was promoted by a 21 nights tour in the UK, it sold more 3.5 millions by the daily mail only. And how can you forget the Superbowl show? The intronisation to the RNR hall of fame?
.
Prince was hype all over again.
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Contrary to the period where he changed his name...

I like Musicology a lot (call me weird), 3121 some, and Planet Earth less so.
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But I can’t see physical re-releases of these selling much, unless they somehow (re)release singles or make some compelling viral videos.
"Love & honesty, peace & harmony"
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Reply #23 posted 12/01/18 3:44pm

feeluupp

RODSERLING said:

coldasice said:
I wish they would have started with different titles. These 3 won’t have much appeal to the masses
No you can t be more wrong : these trilogy are the 3 best selling albums post Warner. . It symbolises the Prince commercial come back he made. Musicology made him the best paid musician of 2004. 3121 is his first album to go directly to #1 in the USa. . Planèt Earth was promoted by a 21 nights tour in the UK, it sold more 3.5 millions by the daily mail only. And how can you forget the Superbowl show? The intronisation to the RNR hall of fame? . Prince was hype all over again. . Contrary to the period where he changed his name...

I disagree for Planet Earth... Yes the Daily Mail sold millions, but it didn't count as a "sale" in terms of charts for Planet Earth... Planet Earth sold very low numbers in the U.S. and really had no significant impact worldwide on the charts.

In terms of sales the biggest post WB selling albums are: (Technically The Very Best of Prince is "post WB" but lets not include that one...

1. MUSICOLOGY

2. EMANCIPATION

3. 3121

4. ULTIMATE PRINCE

5. RAVE UN2 THE JOY FANTASTIC

6. LOTUSFLOW3R

7. PLANET EARTH

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Reply #24 posted 12/02/18 11:19pm

RODSERLING

controversy99 said:

RODSERLING said:



No you can t be more wrong : these trilogy are the 3 best selling albums post Warner.
.
It symbolises the Prince commercial come back he made.
Musicology made him the best paid musician of 2004.
3121 is his first album to go directly to #1 in the USa.
.
Planèt Earth was promoted by a 21 nights tour in the UK, it sold more 3.5 millions by the daily mail only. And how can you forget the Superbowl show? The intronisation to the RNR hall of fame?
.
Prince was hype all over again.
.
Contrary to the period where he changed his name...

I like Musicology a lot (call me weird), 3121 some, and Planet Earth less so.
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But I can’t see physical re-releases of these selling much, unless they somehow (re)release singles or make some compelling viral videos.


You can t blame Sony for re releasing these albums that really need it... Musicology and Call my Name were hits and nobody could buy it for almost 15 years.
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I agree this is way too late, but it s better than nothing. If it doesn't t sell well, blame it on Prince and his estate.
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Reply #25 posted 12/02/18 11:28pm

RODSERLING

feeluupp said:



RODSERLING said:


coldasice said:
I wish they would have started with different titles. These 3 won’t have much appeal to the masses

No you can t be more wrong : these trilogy are the 3 best selling albums post Warner. . It symbolises the Prince commercial come back he made. Musicology made him the best paid musician of 2004. 3121 is his first album to go directly to #1 in the USa. . Planèt Earth was promoted by a 21 nights tour in the UK, it sold more 3.5 millions by the daily mail only. And how can you forget the Superbowl show? The intronisation to the RNR hall of fame? . Prince was hype all over again. . Contrary to the period where he changed his name...


I disagree for Planet Earth... Yes the Daily Mail sold millions, but it didn't count as a "sale" in terms of charts for Planet Earth... Planet Earth sold very low numbers in the U.S. and really had no significant impact worldwide on the charts.



In terms of sales the biggest post WB selling albums are: (Technically The Very Best of Prince is "post WB" but lets not include that one...





1. MUSICOLOGY


2. EMANCIPATION


3. 3121


4. ULTIMATE PRINCE


5. RAVE UN2 THE JOY FANTASTIC


6. LOTUSFLOW3R


7. PLANET EARTH




Are you aware that streaming counts in the album charts today ?
They count even two times : for the track, and for an album (which is completely arbitrary when this track is on many albums, such as Purple Rain for instance...)
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The sales with the daily mail are true sales, in the contrary of the streaming.
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Don t fall in the trap of the labels, that Prince tried for decades to emancipate us with new and legitimate ways of selling albums, that even inspired the industry.
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Hell, that was his main message during 25 years.
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Free albums or 10 cent albums in the music club, were always eligible in the charts, so is the streaming now.
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Prince was the only artist (with maybe David Bowie) who could free himself enough from the labels and the industry to release a new studio album in the press with such huge numbers.
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Even for 2010, the copies were sold out within hours, he could have print it 4 times more...That s a great achievement.
[Edited 12/2/18 23:34pm]
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Reply #26 posted 12/03/18 3:55am

feeluupp

RODSERLING said:

feeluupp said:

I disagree for Planet Earth... Yes the Daily Mail sold millions, but it didn't count as a "sale" in terms of charts for Planet Earth... Planet Earth sold very low numbers in the U.S. and really had no significant impact worldwide on the charts.

In terms of sales the biggest post WB selling albums are: (Technically The Very Best of Prince is "post WB" but lets not include that one...

1. MUSICOLOGY

2. EMANCIPATION

3. 3121

4. ULTIMATE PRINCE

5. RAVE UN2 THE JOY FANTASTIC

6. LOTUSFLOW3R

7. PLANET EARTH

Are you aware that streaming counts in the album charts today ? They count even two times : for the track, and for an album (which is completely arbitrary when this track is on many albums, such as Purple Rain for instance...) . The sales with the daily mail are true sales, in the contrary of the streaming. . Don t fall in the trap of the labels, that Prince tried for decades to emancipate us with new and legitimate ways of selling albums, that even inspired the industry. . Hell, that was his main message during 25 years. . Free albums or 10 cent albums in the music club, were always eligible in the charts, so is the streaming now. . Prince was the only artist (with maybe David Bowie) who could free himself enough from the labels and the industry to release a new studio album in the press with such huge numbers. . Even for 2010, the copies were sold out within hours, he could have print it 4 times more...That s a great achievement. [Edited 12/2/18 23:34pm]

Still Rod, it wasn't counted as a sale in the charts... So Planet Earth technically was not one of his biggest selling post WB albums.

Go look up the streaming numbers for Planet Earth on spotify... It is not one of his biggest selling post WB albums period.

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Reply #27 posted 12/03/18 2:59pm

luvsexy4all

why bother releasing this stuff WITHOUT bonus tracks ?

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Reply #28 posted 12/04/18 12:26am

RODSERLING

feeluupp said:



RODSERLING said:


feeluupp said:



I disagree for Planet Earth... Yes the Daily Mail sold millions, but it didn't count as a "sale" in terms of charts for Planet Earth... Planet Earth sold very low numbers in the U.S. and really had no significant impact worldwide on the charts.



In terms of sales the biggest post WB selling albums are: (Technically The Very Best of Prince is "post WB" but lets not include that one...





1. MUSICOLOGY


2. EMANCIPATION


3. 3121


4. ULTIMATE PRINCE


5. RAVE UN2 THE JOY FANTASTIC


6. LOTUSFLOW3R


7. PLANET EARTH




Are you aware that streaming counts in the album charts today ? They count even two times : for the track, and for an album (which is completely arbitrary when this track is on many albums, such as Purple Rain for instance...) . The sales with the daily mail are true sales, in the contrary of the streaming. . Don t fall in the trap of the labels, that Prince tried for decades to emancipate us with new and legitimate ways of selling albums, that even inspired the industry. . Hell, that was his main message during 25 years. . Free albums or 10 cent albums in the music club, were always eligible in the charts, so is the streaming now. . Prince was the only artist (with maybe David Bowie) who could free himself enough from the labels and the industry to release a new studio album in the press with such huge numbers. . Even for 2010, the copies were sold out within hours, he could have print it 4 times more...That s a great achievement. [Edited 12/2/18 23:34pm]



Still Rod, it wasn't counted as a sale in the charts... So Planet Earth technically was not one of his biggest selling post WB albums.



Go look up the streaming numbers for Planet Earth on spotify... It is not one of his biggest selling post WB albums period.



Go look up the sales in the press of other artists...
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If it s so easy, why nobody can t do that besides Prince ?
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Why is that that more than 3 millions people in the UK owns Planet Earth?
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I m sorry but you didn't t understand the point.
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Music club sales never counted in the charts too. NEVER. But it counted in the final sales.
There was a time (until 1994) where music club sales didn't t even count in the certifications!
These "sales" : we are talking about albums given for free in bundles or at 10 cents...
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Some Albums, such as Blood On the Dance Floor, sold more than 3/4 of its total sales (!) By being given for free In albums bundles !
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How ridiculous is that?
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There was also a time where internet physical sales, digital sales, ticket album sales, streaming sales, etc. Didn't t count in the charts.
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Prince was always ahead of the industry, and helped redefine it.
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He wanted to sue the UK charts in 2007 for planet earth. The facts are that people get out of their houses, paid for the album, and have its physical copies. You can t say that for streaming or even digital sales.
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Now, more than 10 years later, with the music industry having changed so much, it s almost insulting to not acknowledge these numbers.
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That s the real proof you really didn't t understand what Prince did in the last two decades, and what the music industry is.
[Edited 12/4/18 0:42am]
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Reply #29 posted 12/04/18 12:32am

RODSERLING

luvsexy4all said:

why bother releasing this stuff WITHOUT bonus tracks ?



The real question is : why these albums were out of print in the first place.
Why Prince did that everytime? What was the point?
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Technically and contractually, nothing prevents Sony to load these re releases with B sides, remixes, radio edits, music video, etc.
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Remember, Musicology had a music video track on it.
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So wait and see...
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