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Reply #30 posted 10/11/18 9:25am

EmmaMcG

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I wasn't numb. I was stunned. It was as if he was in my DNA and had been ripped out of me. I have never once accepted his death as "just" an overdose. What hurts more now is the fact that he is consigned to history. Yes, he is featured in a credit card TV ad, but how many people know it is him? How many younger people even knew who he was? It is still very, very sad for me.



In fairness, that was mainly down to decisions made by Prince himself. And if he was still alive now, many younger people still wouldn't know who he was. But that didn't seem to bother him so it shouldn't really bother us either.
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Reply #31 posted 10/11/18 9:29am

Empress

Prince's death deeply effected me and still does. I was at work when I heard the news. I started to cry and phoned my husband to tell him the news. He hadn't heard about it yet. We both sat in silence for a few minutes on the phone, said we loved each other and hung up. I went into the washroom at work and cried my eyes out for about 10 mins. I was devastated. I couldn't listen to his music for at least 6 months afterwards. I still get very sad when I sit back and think that he's gone. 35 years is a long time to be a fan and I think about him in some small way every day.

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Reply #32 posted 10/11/18 9:50am

SkipperLove

It does bother me regardless of what prince thought. Prince also thought that taking black market pills was a good idea. We don't always do what is best for us. I respect his decisions career wise but there is no reason not to feel kind of peeved that his work is so overlooked.

EmmaMcG said:

1Sasha said:

I wasn't numb. I was stunned. It was as if he was in my DNA and had been ripped out of me. I have never once accepted his death as "just" an overdose. What hurts more now is the fact that he is consigned to history. Yes, he is featured in a credit card TV ad, but how many people know it is him? How many younger people even knew who he was? It is still very, very sad for me.

In fairness, that was mainly down to decisions made by Prince himself. And if he was still alive now, many younger people still wouldn't know who he was. But that didn't seem to bother him so it shouldn't really bother us either.

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Reply #33 posted 10/11/18 10:58am

peggyon

EmmaMcG said:

1Sasha said:

I wasn't numb. I was stunned. It was as if he was in my DNA and had been ripped out of me. I have never once accepted his death as "just" an overdose. What hurts more now is the fact that he is consigned to history. Yes, he is featured in a credit card TV ad, but how many people know it is him? How many younger people even knew who he was? It is still very, very sad for me.

In fairness, that was mainly down to decisions made by Prince himself. And if he was still alive now, many younger people still wouldn't know who he was. But that didn't seem to bother him so it shouldn't really bother us either.

My 24 y/o daughter is not a Prince fan though when one of her friends decided to dress as Prince for Halloween last year, I said, "Oh, tell her I am a Prince fan", implying that there were not too many of her generation who knew who Prince was. She said, everyone of her age group knows who Prince is.

I was gratified

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Reply #34 posted 10/11/18 11:10am

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I would say that you had a completely normal reaction. It may be because of the fact that you are a bigger fan of Prince than those other artists, and because Prince seemed ageless and "invulnerable" for so long.

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Personally, I had several reactions... shock, grief, numbness, a bit of denial sprinkled in.

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Reply #35 posted 10/11/18 12:19pm

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these types of threads r more numbing

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Reply #36 posted 10/11/18 12:31pm

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I don't take anyone flogging me, dictating to me how I should feel. I wouldn't do it to you. You feel what you feel.
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Reply #37 posted 10/11/18 12:39pm

42Kristen

No. I grew up listening to both Michael Jackson and Prince back in the early '80's. Both men had their won style of music; and what they thought would made the fans cheer for them. My heart lein more towards Prince. I cried when MJ passed away.I cried harder when the love ofmy life Prince had passes. All those memories of listening and wanting to meet with Prince. Date him. Marry him and have 4 children together was all what I weanted back in '91 when I had turned 18. Unforunately, someone else had beat me to the Purple One. Yes. I was very emotional when I heard of Prince's passing. I have had dreams of Prince since his death. Matter of fact. I dreamt of Prince 2 nights ago when I had stopped Mayte Garcia from being his backup dancer. Yeah, it still hurts that I never gotten the chance to meet the man I loved all of my life. No numbness. Just pain and anger.

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Reply #38 posted 10/11/18 1:04pm

EvilAngel

It was quite the opposite for me. I never expected the death of any celebrity, not even Prince's, would affect me, but I was deeply saddened when I heard the news. The first 24 hrs I broke down in tears about 20 times. That was it though, 2nd day after his passing I was over it.

Always loved his music, but thought the man was kind of a dick and his interviews and speeches always made me cringe so I never would have guessed I'd get so emotional. shrug

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Reply #39 posted 10/11/18 1:48pm

PeteSilas

Giovanni777 said:

I would say that you had a completely normal reaction. It may be because of the fact that you are a bigger fan of Prince than those other artists, and because Prince seemed ageless and "invulnerable" for so long.

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Personally, I had several reactions... shock, grief, numbness, a bit of denial sprinkled in.

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I was such a huge Prince fan that I felt guilty when michael died, a sentiment I had heard from other fans. I did however worry about michael, I never really worried much about Prince, he was sort of off in his own world not dealing with scandals. I thought michael would be hounded for the rest of his life and when the news broke that he was taken to the hospital my first thought was "don't let them kill you michael" and when I found out, i laid on the floor the rest of the day. Funny how with the most famous person in the history of the universe, barring maybe Jesus who we don't even know existed, the info about the molestations hasn't been so accessible as I would have though, one way or other I expected more info to come out either vindicating him or vilifying him, now, it's still ambiguous enough. Money is a helluva motivator, enought to where wade robson switched up from "michael never touched me" to "he fucked me up, where's my money?". when you dealing with something that obvious it skews things.

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Reply #40 posted 10/11/18 1:57pm

PeteSilas

EmmaMcG said:

PeteSilas said:

he didn't look well, or himself, but what did you put in on? just out of curiousity, not arguing. I've been facsinated by several people who had premonitions going back to 2012 that he'd be gone in 5 years. As far as MJ, did the dancers mean he wouldn't make it physically through the shows or that he'd die? He did not look like he was working very hard to me and from the sounds of it he skipped a lot of rehearsals, apples and oranges in comparison to prince, mj had lost interest in music a long time before, prince squoze everything he could out of himself.

When I seen him at the Grammys I assumed he was just not taking care of himself anymore. I didn't want to think about what might be wrong with him, whether it was an illness or something else, but it was obvious that there was SOMETHING wrong. His appearance at the grammys and his sudden interest in doing an autobiography rang a few alarm bells but that incident on the plane was the the moment it all came together for me. It was obvious, to me, that he didn't have long left. As for MJ, I wasn't there so I can only go on what I was told by the people who were there, but apparently MJ was full of energy one day, then the next he'd be phoning it in and sitting out half the rehearsals. He'd only really come alive when the cameras were there. The general feeling amongst a lot of the crew was that he'd have to postpone the majority of the shows. And that was best case scenario. A few of them thought he would die on stage.

"die on stage" he didn't work that damn hard, he needed to worry about the drugs not overwork. I love mike so i don't want to upset his crazy fans but the this is it footage was revealing and even that was culled from hours and hours of other footage so i'd assume it was the best and to me it looked like he didn't want to be there, the bullshit excuse of not singing just spoke volumes "saving my voice" was either code for "i don't want to work" or "I can't sing anymore" I don't really know which one but neither is good. His singing wasn't horrible but how can you get a voice ready if you ain't working it? It's like a boxer saving his strength for the fight by not training hard, ridiculous. Poor guy, my brother was saying to me the other day how he saw the clip from the bashir docu where Michael was going around pointing out shit and buying it, I pointed out to him that that was why he was in the financial fix he was in. Then, you ad the snakes around him, he got his ass in a pickle. I have to say, both men great artists but Prince still managed way better with his life, even with the drugs. At the end, he honestly never sounded better. I know there are rules about MJ vs. Prince but whether we like it or not, those two will be linked together forever like the beatles and the stones, like Ali and Frazier, they were the dynamic duo.

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Reply #41 posted 10/11/18 2:39pm

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PeteSilas said:

EmmaMcG said:

PeteSilas said: When I seen him at the Grammys I assumed he was just not taking care of himself anymore. I didn't want to think about what might be wrong with him, whether it was an illness or something else, but it was obvious that there was SOMETHING wrong. His appearance at the grammys and his sudden interest in doing an autobiography rang a few alarm bells but that incident on the plane was the the moment it all came together for me. It was obvious, to me, that he didn't have long left. As for MJ, I wasn't there so I can only go on what I was told by the people who were there, but apparently MJ was full of energy one day, then the next he'd be phoning it in and sitting out half the rehearsals. He'd only really come alive when the cameras were there. The general feeling amongst a lot of the crew was that he'd have to postpone the majority of the shows. And that was best case scenario. A few of them thought he would die on stage.

"die on stage" he didn't work that damn hard, he needed to worry about the drugs not overwork. I love mike so i don't want to upset his crazy fans but the this is it footage was revealing and even that was culled from hours and hours of other footage so i'd assume it was the best and to me it looked like he didn't want to be there, the bullshit excuse of not singing just spoke volumes "saving my voice" was either code for "i don't want to work" or "I can't sing anymore" I don't really know which one but neither is good. His singing wasn't horrible but how can you get a voice ready if you ain't working it? It's like a boxer saving his strength for the fight by not training hard, ridiculous. Poor guy, my brother was saying to me the other day how he saw the clip from the bashir docu where Michael was going around pointing out shit and buying it, I pointed out to him that that was why he was in the financial fix he was in. Then, you ad the snakes around him, he got his ass in a pickle. I have to say, both men great artists but Prince still managed way better with his life, even with the drugs. At the end, he honestly never sounded better. I know there are rules about MJ vs. Prince but whether we like it or not, those two will be linked together forever like the beatles and the stones, like Ali and Frazier, they were the dynamic duo.

When you hear stories (real stories) from the people who were around for MJ's rehearsals, and seeing what was planned, it makes me sadder. He was REALLY trying to get that come back, leave a good impression on the world and then go off into the sunset. He knew lipsynching so much on the HIStory tour was a bad look so he was working on singing live more, he wanted to change up the setlists

The pop album he was planning

The two TV specials

The classical inspired album

Wanting to go into producing films

(Allegedly) wanted to back to school and try college

Prince always seemed...immortal. He was the guy you expected to live forever, at least that was the vibe I got from him. Dude always seemed otherworldly. It felt like he's not supposed to be able to die

George Michael....I'm a huge fan but the more I thought and reflected, I wasn't as surprised. I was sad because he seemed to back on the right track and had all this plans. George in his last interview said he felt Michael and Prince were more talented than him and Madonna but they were both more "vulnerable"

Just reflecting on losing my 3 favorite artists. Shit sucks sad The industry eats people alive

BTW Pete sent you a link to an interesting podcast smile

[Edited 10/11/18 14:43pm]

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Reply #42 posted 10/11/18 2:47pm

EmmaMcG

PeteSilas said:



EmmaMcG said:


PeteSilas said:


he didn't look well, or himself, but what did you put in on? just out of curiousity, not arguing. I've been facsinated by several people who had premonitions going back to 2012 that he'd be gone in 5 years. As far as MJ, did the dancers mean he wouldn't make it physically through the shows or that he'd die? He did not look like he was working very hard to me and from the sounds of it he skipped a lot of rehearsals, apples and oranges in comparison to prince, mj had lost interest in music a long time before, prince squoze everything he could out of himself.



When I seen him at the Grammys I assumed he was just not taking care of himself anymore. I didn't want to think about what might be wrong with him, whether it was an illness or something else, but it was obvious that there was SOMETHING wrong. His appearance at the grammys and his sudden interest in doing an autobiography rang a few alarm bells but that incident on the plane was the the moment it all came together for me. It was obvious, to me, that he didn't have long left. As for MJ, I wasn't there so I can only go on what I was told by the people who were there, but apparently MJ was full of energy one day, then the next he'd be phoning it in and sitting out half the rehearsals. He'd only really come alive when the cameras were there. The general feeling amongst a lot of the crew was that he'd have to postpone the majority of the shows. And that was best case scenario. A few of them thought he would die on stage.

"die on stage" he didn't work that damn hard, he needed to worry about the drugs not overwork. I love mike so i don't want to upset his crazy fans but the this is it footage was revealing and even that was culled from hours and hours of other footage so i'd assume it was the best and to me it looked like he didn't want to be there, the bullshit excuse of not singing just spoke volumes "saving my voice" was either code for "i don't want to work" or "I can't sing anymore" I don't really know which one but neither is good. His singing wasn't horrible but how can you get a voice ready if you ain't working it? It's like a boxer saving his strength for the fight by not training hard, ridiculous. Poor guy, my brother was saying to me the other day how he saw the clip from the bashir docu where Michael was going around pointing out shit and buying it, I pointed out to him that that was why he was in the financial fix he was in. Then, you ad the snakes around him, he got his ass in a pickle. I have to say, both men great artists but Prince still managed way better with his life, even with the drugs. At the end, he honestly never sounded better. I know there are rules about MJ vs. Prince but whether we like it or not, those two will be linked together forever like the beatles and the stones, like Ali and Frazier, they were the dynamic duo.



They didn't mean that he'd die on stage because he was overworking himself on that particular show. They meant that he'd likely die on stage because he was physically incapable of performing 50 3 hour concerts. His PREVIOUS tours had left him in bad shape. He did sing more in the rehearsals than the This Is It documentary made out but he could barely make it through 2 songs before he had to take a breather. And he couldn't sing at all while dancing. It was one or the other. He was going to have to lip-sync his faster songs.
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Reply #43 posted 10/11/18 2:52pm

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Empress said:

Prince's death deeply effected me and still does. I was at work when I heard the news. I started to cry and phoned my husband to tell him the news. He hadn't heard about it yet. We both sat in silence for a few minutes on the phone, said we loved each other and hung up. I went into the washroom at work and cried my eyes out for about 10 mins. I was devastated. I couldn't listen to his music for at least 6 months afterwards. I still get very sad when I sit back and think that he's gone. 35 years is a long time to be a fan and I think about him in some small way every day.

I remember getting emails and texts from friends because they knew how much I loved Prince. One of my friends mentioned how in school, while classmates were listening to Beyonce or 50 Cent or whatever rock band was popular, I was there listening to Prince during lunch lol

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Reply #44 posted 10/11/18 4:36pm

PeteSilas

and bboy, i'm not dismissing MJ or anything, he had nothing to prove at that point, which is often one of the problems getting motivated. 50 is old for a dancer but not a singer, he should have been fine vocally. It is tough coming back, just part of life, we all have setbacks, mine are on a much smaller scale but i have times when i can't muster the energy to practice and getting back into form is harder and harder, it's why i've changed things in my life so that I can carry on. And I do have to carry on, in my mind, for all my heroes, mj and elvis included and for all my loved ones who had a hand in creating me. they wouldn't and never approved but that's not the point, i must carry on.

bboy87 said:

PeteSilas said:

"die on stage" he didn't work that damn hard, he needed to worry about the drugs not overwork. I love mike so i don't want to upset his crazy fans but the this is it footage was revealing and even that was culled from hours and hours of other footage so i'd assume it was the best and to me it looked like he didn't want to be there, the bullshit excuse of not singing just spoke volumes "saving my voice" was either code for "i don't want to work" or "I can't sing anymore" I don't really know which one but neither is good. His singing wasn't horrible but how can you get a voice ready if you ain't working it? It's like a boxer saving his strength for the fight by not training hard, ridiculous. Poor guy, my brother was saying to me the other day how he saw the clip from the bashir docu where Michael was going around pointing out shit and buying it, I pointed out to him that that was why he was in the financial fix he was in. Then, you ad the snakes around him, he got his ass in a pickle. I have to say, both men great artists but Prince still managed way better with his life, even with the drugs. At the end, he honestly never sounded better. I know there are rules about MJ vs. Prince but whether we like it or not, those two will be linked together forever like the beatles and the stones, like Ali and Frazier, they were the dynamic duo.

When you hear stories (real stories) from the people who were around for MJ's rehearsals, and seeing what was planned, it makes me sadder. He was REALLY trying to get that come back, leave a good impression on the world and then go off into the sunset. He knew lipsynching so much on the HIStory tour was a bad look so he was working on singing live more, he wanted to change up the setlists

The pop album he was planning

The two TV specials

The classical inspired album

Wanting to go into producing films

(Allegedly) wanted to back to school and try college

Prince always seemed...immortal. He was the guy you expected to live forever, at least that was the vibe I got from him. Dude always seemed otherworldly. It felt like he's not supposed to be able to die

George Michael....I'm a huge fan but the more I thought and reflected, I wasn't as surprised. I was sad because he seemed to back on the right track and had all this plans. George in his last interview said he felt Michael and Prince were more talented than him and Madonna but they were both more "vulnerable"

Just reflecting on losing my 3 favorite artists. Shit sucks sad The industry eats people alive

BTW Pete sent you a link to an interesting podcast smile

[Edited 10/11/18 14:43pm]

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Reply #45 posted 10/11/18 4:53pm

PeteSilas

EmmaMcG said:

PeteSilas said:

"die on stage" he didn't work that damn hard, he needed to worry about the drugs not overwork. I love mike so i don't want to upset his crazy fans but the this is it footage was revealing and even that was culled from hours and hours of other footage so i'd assume it was the best and to me it looked like he didn't want to be there, the bullshit excuse of not singing just spoke volumes "saving my voice" was either code for "i don't want to work" or "I can't sing anymore" I don't really know which one but neither is good. His singing wasn't horrible but how can you get a voice ready if you ain't working it? It's like a boxer saving his strength for the fight by not training hard, ridiculous. Poor guy, my brother was saying to me the other day how he saw the clip from the bashir docu where Michael was going around pointing out shit and buying it, I pointed out to him that that was why he was in the financial fix he was in. Then, you ad the snakes around him, he got his ass in a pickle. I have to say, both men great artists but Prince still managed way better with his life, even with the drugs. At the end, he honestly never sounded better. I know there are rules about MJ vs. Prince but whether we like it or not, those two will be linked together forever like the beatles and the stones, like Ali and Frazier, they were the dynamic duo.

They didn't mean that he'd die on stage because he was overworking himself on that particular show. They meant that he'd likely die on stage because he was physically incapable of performing 50 3 hour concerts. His PREVIOUS tours had left him in bad shape. He did sing more in the rehearsals than the This Is It documentary made out but he could barely make it through 2 songs before he had to take a breather. And he couldn't sing at all while dancing. It was one or the other. He was going to have to lip-sync his faster songs.

he was in that bad of shape where he'd suddenly die onstage? I don't believe that, joint issues won't kill you on the spot, they'll just make you wish you were dead. And he had to be in sad decline if he couldn't do a couple songs, i believe it. He got himself in a helluva pickle. They say Prince cancelled his rehearsals when MJ died and someone, forget who, snarkily assumed it was because he was gonna try to kick the opioids, anyone remember? shit i listen to too much of this info.

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Reply #46 posted 10/11/18 5:06pm

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PeteSilas said:

EmmaMcG said:

PeteSilas said: They didn't mean that he'd die on stage because he was overworking himself on that particular show. They meant that he'd likely die on stage because he was physically incapable of performing 50 3 hour concerts. His PREVIOUS tours had left him in bad shape. He did sing more in the rehearsals than the This Is It documentary made out but he could barely make it through 2 songs before he had to take a breather. And he couldn't sing at all while dancing. It was one or the other. He was going to have to lip-sync his faster songs.

he was in that bad of shape where he'd suddenly die onstage? I don't believe that, joint issues won't kill you on the spot, they'll just make you wish you were dead. And he had to be in sad decline if he couldn't do a couple songs, i believe it. He got himself in a helluva pickle. They say Prince cancelled his rehearsals when MJ died and someone, forget who, snarkily assumed it was because he was gonna try to kick the opioids, anyone remember? shit i listen to too much of this info.

According to people, MJ was fine then got progressively worse then got better...then June 25th happened

I didn't think Prince was in such bad shape until I watched the recent special on ABC. To think he was taking fraudulent pills... eek

There's so many questions in his death and I can't fathom where to start. It still doesn't feel right that Prince Rogers Nelson isn't walking the earth. Same goes for Bowie

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Reply #47 posted 10/11/18 5:34pm

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PeteSilas said:



EmmaMcG said:


PeteSilas said:


"die on stage" he didn't work that damn hard, he needed to worry about the drugs not overwork. I love mike so i don't want to upset his crazy fans but the this is it footage was revealing and even that was culled from hours and hours of other footage so i'd assume it was the best and to me it looked like he didn't want to be there, the bullshit excuse of not singing just spoke volumes "saving my voice" was either code for "i don't want to work" or "I can't sing anymore" I don't really know which one but neither is good. His singing wasn't horrible but how can you get a voice ready if you ain't working it? It's like a boxer saving his strength for the fight by not training hard, ridiculous. Poor guy, my brother was saying to me the other day how he saw the clip from the bashir docu where Michael was going around pointing out shit and buying it, I pointed out to him that that was why he was in the financial fix he was in. Then, you ad the snakes around him, he got his ass in a pickle. I have to say, both men great artists but Prince still managed way better with his life, even with the drugs. At the end, he honestly never sounded better. I know there are rules about MJ vs. Prince but whether we like it or not, those two will be linked together forever like the beatles and the stones, like Ali and Frazier, they were the dynamic duo.



They didn't mean that he'd die on stage because he was overworking himself on that particular show. They meant that he'd likely die on stage because he was physically incapable of performing 50 3 hour concerts. His PREVIOUS tours had left him in bad shape. He did sing more in the rehearsals than the This Is It documentary made out but he could barely make it through 2 songs before he had to take a breather. And he couldn't sing at all while dancing. It was one or the other. He was going to have to lip-sync his faster songs.

he was in that bad of shape where he'd suddenly die onstage? I don't believe that, joint issues won't kill you on the spot, they'll just make you wish you were dead. And he had to be in sad decline if he couldn't do a couple songs, i believe it. He got himself in a helluva pickle. They say Prince cancelled his rehearsals when MJ died and someone, forget who, snarkily assumed it was because he was gonna try to kick the opioids, anyone remember? shit i listen to too much of this info.



You know I did a search on here to look back and see if I remember anything being posted about opioid usage and did actually find a thread from 2009 that I think I actually remembered reading at the time . It's funny looking back it was right in front of our faces ...i remember thinking " Oh that can't be true , consider the source" and ofcourse there was always others quick to discredit the drug rumors...but honestly I felt liime some people might have been coming to the org trying to out him...i think now looking back this was a long time coming and sadly an inevitable outcome when an addict runs the show. I hope this serves as a cautionary tale to others.

http://prince.org/msg/7/310635
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Reply #48 posted 10/11/18 5:59pm

PeteSilas

Krystalkisses said:

PeteSilas said:

he was in that bad of shape where he'd suddenly die onstage? I don't believe that, joint issues won't kill you on the spot, they'll just make you wish you were dead. And he had to be in sad decline if he couldn't do a couple songs, i believe it. He got himself in a helluva pickle. They say Prince cancelled his rehearsals when MJ died and someone, forget who, snarkily assumed it was because he was gonna try to kick the opioids, anyone remember? shit i listen to too much of this info.

You know I did a search on here to look back and see if I remember anything being posted about opioid usage and did actually find a thread from 2009 that I think I actually remembered reading at the time . It's funny looking back it was right in front of our faces ...i remember thinking " Oh that can't be true , consider the source" and ofcourse there was always others quick to discredit the drug rumors...but honestly I felt liime some people might have been coming to the org trying to out him...i think now looking back this was a long time coming and sadly an inevitable outcome when an addict runs the show. I hope this serves as a cautionary tale to others. http://prince.org/msg/7/310635

I remember the rumours coming out but that's not what i was referring to, someone, forget who, said after he died that the shutting himself in after MJ died was not grieving as many of us would have thought, but that he was trying to go cold turkey.

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Reply #49 posted 10/11/18 6:27pm

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Krystalkisses said:

PeteSilas said:

he was in that bad of shape where he'd suddenly die onstage? I don't believe that, joint issues won't kill you on the spot, they'll just make you wish you were dead. And he had to be in sad decline if he couldn't do a couple songs, i believe it. He got himself in a helluva pickle. They say Prince cancelled his rehearsals when MJ died and someone, forget who, snarkily assumed it was because he was gonna try to kick the opioids, anyone remember? shit i listen to too much of this info.

You know I did a search on here to look back and see if I remember anything being posted about opioid usage and did actually find a thread from 2009 that I think I actually remembered reading at the time . It's funny looking back it was right in front of our faces ...i remember thinking " Oh that can't be true , consider the source" and ofcourse there was always others quick to discredit the drug rumors...but honestly I felt liime some people might have been coming to the org trying to out him...i think now looking back this was a long time coming and sadly an inevitable outcome when an addict runs the show. I hope this serves as a cautionary tale to others. http://prince.org/msg/7/310635

Not only that, I don't think any of us even considered he was perscription pills

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #50 posted 10/11/18 7:49pm

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PeteSilas said:



Krystalkisses said:


PeteSilas said:


he was in that bad of shape where he'd suddenly die onstage? I don't believe that, joint issues won't kill you on the spot, they'll just make you wish you were dead. And he had to be in sad decline if he couldn't do a couple songs, i believe it. He got himself in a helluva pickle. They say Prince cancelled his rehearsals when MJ died and someone, forget who, snarkily assumed it was because he was gonna try to kick the opioids, anyone remember? shit i listen to too much of this info.



You know I did a search on here to look back and see if I remember anything being posted about opioid usage and did actually find a thread from 2009 that I think I actually remembered reading at the time . It's funny looking back it was right in front of our faces ...i remember thinking " Oh that can't be true , consider the source" and ofcourse there was always others quick to discredit the drug rumors...but honestly I felt liime some people might have been coming to the org trying to out him...i think now looking back this was a long time coming and sadly an inevitable outcome when an addict runs the show. I hope this serves as a cautionary tale to others. http://prince.org/msg/7/310635

I remember the rumours coming out but that's not what i was referring to, someone, forget who, said after he died that the shutting himself in after MJ died was not grieving as many of us would have thought, but that he was trying to go cold turkey.



Maybe it was both, confronted with his own mortality I can only imagine.
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Reply #51 posted 10/11/18 8:09pm

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I am a music-lover and many musicians have touched me. I have studied the lives of many of my favorite musicians/singers such as Jerry Garcia, Leon Russell, Elvis, Gram Parsons, Roy Orbison, Johnny Cash, Joni Mitchell, Brian Wilson etc., but none have affected me the way Prince has. He seemed to have such depth and magnetism. I had zero feelings when MJ died.

I have annoyed my friends and family with many enthusiastic stories about the aforementioned musicians but my zeal would usually subside after several months. With Prince, this feeling is lasting much much longer. Sometimes I wonder if he somehow hypnotized me! Or used that mental telepathy thing?

Agree. Prince runs in your blood. It's unknowable how he does that. crysball


Love your musician's list and everyone on it. Gram Parsons, haven't heard anyone mention him in a long time. Wore a bunch of old cassettes out falling asleep over him every night for years.

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Reply #52 posted 10/11/18 8:12pm

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these types of threads r more numbing

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Reply #53 posted 10/11/18 8:18pm

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Krystalkisses said:

PeteSilas said:



EmmaMcG said:


PeteSilas said:


"die on stage" he didn't work that damn hard, he needed to worry about the drugs not overwork. I love mike so i don't want to upset his crazy fans but the this is it footage was revealing and even that was culled from hours and hours of other footage so i'd assume it was the best and to me it looked like he didn't want to be there, the bullshit excuse of not singing just spoke volumes "saving my voice" was either code for "i don't want to work" or "I can't sing anymore" I don't really know which one but neither is good. His singing wasn't horrible but how can you get a voice ready if you ain't working it? It's like a boxer saving his strength for the fight by not training hard, ridiculous. Poor guy, my brother was saying to me the other day how he saw the clip from the bashir docu where Michael was going around pointing out shit and buying it, I pointed out to him that that was why he was in the financial fix he was in. Then, you ad the snakes around him, he got his ass in a pickle. I have to say, both men great artists but Prince still managed way better with his life, even with the drugs. At the end, he honestly never sounded better. I know there are rules about MJ vs. Prince but whether we like it or not, those two will be linked together forever like the beatles and the stones, like Ali and Frazier, they were the dynamic duo.



They didn't mean that he'd die on stage because he was overworking himself on that particular show. They meant that he'd likely die on stage because he was physically incapable of performing 50 3 hour concerts. His PREVIOUS tours had left him in bad shape. He did sing more in the rehearsals than the This Is It documentary made out but he could barely make it through 2 songs before he had to take a breather. And he couldn't sing at all while dancing. It was one or the other. He was going to have to lip-sync his faster songs.

he was in that bad of shape where he'd suddenly die onstage? I don't believe that, joint issues won't kill you on the spot, they'll just make you wish you were dead. And he had to be in sad decline if he couldn't do a couple songs, i believe it. He got himself in a helluva pickle. They say Prince cancelled his rehearsals when MJ died and someone, forget who, snarkily assumed it was because he was gonna try to kick the opioids, anyone remember? shit i listen to too much of this info.



You know I did a search on here to look back and see if I remember anything being posted about opioid usage and did actually find a thread from 2009 that I think I actually remembered reading at the time . It's funny looking back it was right in front of our faces ...i remember thinking " Oh that can't be true , consider the source" and ofcourse there was always others quick to discredit the drug rumors...but honestly I felt liime some people might have been coming to the org trying to out him...i think now looking back this was a long time coming and sadly an inevitable outcome when an addict runs the show. I hope this serves as a cautionary tale to others.

http://prince.org/msg/7/310635


And 2009 was an exceptionally “thin” year for Prince. micheals death, his own struggle. Your right about it being right in front of us.
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Reply #54 posted 10/11/18 8:44pm

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I'm sure you're not alone in feeling numb, probably just on this site. I have never cried over a celebrity but I'm not much of a crier. Prince's passing troubles me more than any other celebrity's though...obviously I'm on a fan-site 2+ years later trying to make sense of it all. I did get teary at the 4U Tribute when they closed with Purple Rain but it was more of a wow! I'm so proud of him and all he accomplished kind of feeling. I think Prince was truly a once in a lifetime artist and his journey will forever fascinate me.
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Reply #55 posted 10/11/18 10:51pm

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pricetag said:


Analyzing your response to the death of person you never met and never would. This is going to sound old-fashioned but my advice is to get a grip on yourself. Gotta love the internet.




Wow, all I can say is, I'm so glad I'm not like you.


Your kind is a lot rarer. Thankfully. I mean, just imagine what the world look like if dominated by people with your psychological and emotional dysfunction? Shudder.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #56 posted 10/12/18 12:04am

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pricetag said:


Your kind is a lot rarer. Thankfully. I mean, just imagine what the world look like if dominated by people with your psychological and emotional dysfunction? Shudder.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.

You started this thread by stating the exact opposite. That you weren’t mourning. See? Utterly disorded mind.
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Reply #57 posted 10/12/18 12:38am

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PeteSilas said:



EmmaMcG said:


PeteSilas said:


"die on stage" he didn't work that damn hard, he needed to worry about the drugs not overwork. I love mike so i don't want to upset his crazy fans but the this is it footage was revealing and even that was culled from hours and hours of other footage so i'd assume it was the best and to me it looked like he didn't want to be there, the bullshit excuse of not singing just spoke volumes "saving my voice" was either code for "i don't want to work" or "I can't sing anymore" I don't really know which one but neither is good. His singing wasn't horrible but how can you get a voice ready if you ain't working it? It's like a boxer saving his strength for the fight by not training hard, ridiculous. Poor guy, my brother was saying to me the other day how he saw the clip from the bashir docu where Michael was going around pointing out shit and buying it, I pointed out to him that that was why he was in the financial fix he was in. Then, you ad the snakes around him, he got his ass in a pickle. I have to say, both men great artists but Prince still managed way better with his life, even with the drugs. At the end, he honestly never sounded better. I know there are rules about MJ vs. Prince but whether we like it or not, those two will be linked together forever like the beatles and the stones, like Ali and Frazier, they were the dynamic duo.



They didn't mean that he'd die on stage because he was overworking himself on that particular show. They meant that he'd likely die on stage because he was physically incapable of performing 50 3 hour concerts. His PREVIOUS tours had left him in bad shape. He did sing more in the rehearsals than the This Is It documentary made out but he could barely make it through 2 songs before he had to take a breather. And he couldn't sing at all while dancing. It was one or the other. He was going to have to lip-sync his faster songs.

he was in that bad of shape where he'd suddenly die onstage? I don't believe that, joint issues won't kill you on the spot, they'll just make you wish you were dead. And he had to be in sad decline if he couldn't do a couple songs, i believe it. He got himself in a helluva pickle. They say Prince cancelled his rehearsals when MJ died and someone, forget who, snarkily assumed it was because he was gonna try to kick the opioids, anyone remember? shit i listen to too much of this info.



Well I didn't believe it at the time but considering this comes from people who were working with him every day, I think they'd probably know more about his condition than we would. I can't speak for how Prince reacted to the news of MJ's death but I met Prince in Denmark in 2011 and I thought he looked pretty healthy at the time. Maybe he had taken a break from the painkillers or perhaps he hadn't yet become so dependent on them.
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Reply #58 posted 10/12/18 1:26am

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EmmaMcG said:

PeteSilas said:

he was in that bad of shape where he'd suddenly die onstage? I don't believe that, joint issues won't kill you on the spot, they'll just make you wish you were dead. And he had to be in sad decline if he couldn't do a couple songs, i believe it. He got himself in a helluva pickle. They say Prince cancelled his rehearsals when MJ died and someone, forget who, snarkily assumed it was because he was gonna try to kick the opioids, anyone remember? shit i listen to too much of this info.

Well I didn't believe it at the time but considering this comes from people who were working with him every day, I think they'd probably know more about his condition than we would. I can't speak for how Prince reacted to the news of MJ's death but I met Prince in Denmark in 2011 and I thought he looked pretty healthy at the time. Maybe he had taken a break from the painkillers or perhaps he hadn't yet become so dependent on them.

they say prince od'd in 2011 so he probably wasn't that healthy. I find it interesting that some of the guys like morris hays will not speak about the drugs, not that he should or shouldn't but it's obvious that he's stipulated that before his interviews.

Prince.org: With fans like these he didn't need haters.
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Reply #59 posted 10/12/18 1:47am

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pricetag said:

MoBettaBliss said:


so there's nobody throughout history that you've felt an emotional connection to, even though you've never met them?

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[Edited 10/10/18 15:52pm]

Lol. Of course this makes no sense and is in no way relevant to what I said. In any event, based on your entirely separate premise, I suppose one is to assume it’s perfectly fine to feel numb about the death of a stranger for nearly three years, so long as they have an ‘emotional connection’ to them? Jeez. I can’t even.



feel better?

clearly, you're an emotional giant... i appreciate your wisdom on this matter ... sure, you come across as condescending ... but i know it'll only do me good

thanks! biggrin

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