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Reply #210 posted 08/18/18 12:11pm

206Michelle

rogifan said:

OK this showed up in my Twitter feed. Not sure what I think about it. At least they’re using the Twitter feature where an account can promote a tweet but you never actually see it on their twitter page as something they’ve tweeted. So when you go to @prince this ‘ad’ doesn’t show up. The last tweet you see is the last thing he tweeted.

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That’s really weird!
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Reply #211 posted 08/18/18 12:17pm

luvsexy4all

instead of the usual "ill give MY compilation which is better than most".....let them know if u consider this comp likely to bring in listeners or not

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Reply #212 posted 08/18/18 12:24pm

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arent the leggers going to contribute???? hype mfers

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Reply #213 posted 08/18/18 12:25pm

206Michelle

Harps said:

So, Tidal now only has Newpowersoul, Exodus, HitnRun Phase 1&2, The Most Beautiful on TGE and some random single uploads like If I could get u’re attention, Free Urself etc... over the other streaming services?

The Black Album and Gold Nigga are unavailable on either.

As usual Tidal is a complete mess with duplicate albums, incorrect categories etc. Crystal Ball doesn’t appear in the albums section but like One Nite Alone....Solo is under Live albums whilst One Nite Alone...the Aftershow is under Albums not Live.

It’s never easy being a Prince fan biggrin
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The Black Album WAS available on Tidal until very recently, possibly yesterday. I see that TBA is no longer listed among his albums on his artist page on Tidal. I still have it because I downloaded it and I can still play it.
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Reply #214 posted 08/18/18 12:37pm

206Michelle

PurpleMedley122 said:

So after all this, the albums that still remain exclusive to TIDAL are:
The Hit n Run albums (also on Apple Music)
Newpower Soul
Exodus
1-800 New Funk
Girl 6
Karmasutra

Singles:
The War
Black Sweat (Live)
Little Red Corvette/Dirty Mind
When Will We B Paid?
Joy in Repetition (Live)
If Eye Could Get Ur Attention

Still missing from all streaming sites: The Black Album (was on TIDAL, but recently removed) and Goldnigga
[Edited 8/17/18 6:55am]
[Edited 8/17/18 7:09am]

I did not know Kamasutra was on Tidal until you mentioned it, Purple Medley! Thanks!
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Reply #215 posted 08/18/18 1:00pm

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206Michelle said:

dustoff said:

Tracklist:

1. Emancipation

2. Black Sweat

3. P. Control

4. Crucial

5. The Love We Make

6. Eye Hate U

7. The Greatest Romance Ever Sold

8. Eye Love U, But Eye Don't Trust U Anymore

9. Gold

10. Guitar

11. Dream Factory

12. The Work Pt. 1

13. Call My Name

14. Strays of the World

15. Shhh

16. Dreamer

17. Chaos and Disorder

18. Endorphinmachine

19. Musicology

20. Northside

21. When Eye Lay My Hands on U

22. Beautiful Strange

23. Future Soul Song

24. Empty Room (Live)

25. 3rd Eye

26. U're Gonna C Me

27. Dinner with Delores

28. Ol' Skool Company

29. 4ever

30. West

31. Xpedition

32. Muse 2 the Pharaoh

33. Somewhere Here on Earth

34. U Make My Sun Shine

35. 1+1+1 is 3

36. Chelsea Rogers

37. We March

I don’t want to sound like I’m bitching, but why wasn’t the anthology 1994 to 2010? Dark and The Most Beautiful Girl in the World should be on this anthology. I know that TMBGITW was on the 4ever compilation. . For the most part, I think the tracks selected are good. But Colonized Mind needs to be on here because it is a masterful track. Also, where is Future Baby Mama; He won a Grammy for that song. . Also, why does the album stop at 2010?


TMBGITW was not part of the 4ever release.

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Reply #216 posted 08/18/18 1:04pm

206Michelle

fabriziovenerandi said:



databank said:


I wonder what the deal is with TMBGITW...





I think it could be related to the italian plagiarism for "Takin' me to paradise".


Prince's Italian Plagiarism Case Drags On
Billboard
https://www.billboard.com...arism-case
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Reply #217 posted 08/18/18 1:07pm

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rogifan said:

leecaldon said:

Those are all pretty reasonable assertions to make, and fairly mainstream thinking. The comment on Lovesexy would be the only questionable one for me.

Im sorry but IMO these “notes” should be generic and not full of opinion. They shouldn’t include words like unremarkable or bizarre.

Should they include words like "remarkable" or "mainstream"--or, for that matter, "classic" or "among his best work." Honestly, except for tracklistings and recording/release information, almost everything one could say about a musical production is subjective to some degree.

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Reply #218 posted 08/18/18 1:12pm

EddieC

EddieC said:

rogifan said:

leecaldon said: Im sorry but IMO these “notes” should be generic and not full of opinion. They shouldn’t include words like unremarkable or bizarre.

Should they include words like "remarkable" or "mainstream"--or, for that matter, "classic" or "among his best work"? Honestly, except for tracklistings and recording/release information, almost everything one could say about a musical production is subjective to some degree.

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Reply #219 posted 08/18/18 1:36pm

206Michelle

Doozer said:



206Michelle said:


dustoff said:

Tracklist:



1. Emancipation


2. Black Sweat


3. P. Control


4. Crucial


5. The Love We Make


6. Eye Hate U


7. The Greatest Romance Ever Sold


8. Eye Love U, But Eye Don't Trust U Anymore


9. Gold


10. Guitar


11. Dream Factory


12. The Work Pt. 1


13. Call My Name


14. Strays of the World


15. Shhh


16. Dreamer


17. Chaos and Disorder


18. Endorphinmachine


19. Musicology


20. Northside


21. When Eye Lay My Hands on U


22. Beautiful Strange


23. Future Soul Song


24. Empty Room (Live)


25. 3rd Eye


26. U're Gonna C Me


27. Dinner with Delores


28. Ol' Skool Company


29. 4ever


30. West


31. Xpedition


32. Muse 2 the Pharaoh


33. Somewhere Here on Earth


34. U Make My Sun Shine


35. 1+1+1 is 3


36. Chelsea Rogers


37. We March



I don’t want to sound like I’m bitching, but why wasn’t the anthology 1994 to 2010? Dark and The Most Beautiful Girl in the World should be on this anthology. I know that TMBGITW was on the 4ever compilation. . For the most part, I think the tracks selected are good. But Colonized Mind needs to be on here because it is a masterful track. Also, where is Future Baby Mama; He won a Grammy for that song. . Also, why does the album stop at 2010?


TMBGITW was not part of the 4ever release.


My bad, I was thinking of Batdance because that was not on The Hits/The B Sides.
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Reply #220 posted 08/18/18 1:56pm

rogifan

206Michelle said:

rogifan said:


Yeah I don’t know why it stops at 2010. Also I Like It There should be on here. He played it quite a bit live in the later years.

I agree about I Like It There. I think it should replace Chaos and Disorder.

i don’t mind Chaos and Disorder but he definitely played I Like It There more live. I just listen to the live versions because they’re better anyway. lol
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Reply #221 posted 08/18/18 2:06pm

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Why did Tidal removed the Black album?
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Reply #222 posted 08/18/18 2:44pm

lastdecember

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206Michelle said:

lastdecember said:

It’s very interesting that Hit N Run phase one is only a purchase choice and the only one not available to stream. Wonder why, or if they just forgot it.

HNR 1 and 2 havé been available to stream on Tidal ever since I jouned about a year ago.


Yeah tidal had them all and I own all the CDs and saying in general it’s weird that’s the only album lik that on iTunes that isn’t a stream it’s just a sale. As for tidal knowing Jay z and his bs and screwing artists over there I’d never sign up

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Reply #223 posted 08/18/18 2:52pm

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206Michelle said:

fabriziovenerandi said:



databank said:


I wonder what the deal is with TMBGITW...





I think it could be related to the italian plagiarism for "Takin' me to paradise".


Prince's Italian Plagiarism Case Drags On
Billboard
https://www.billboard.com...arism-case


It’s interesting that only in Italy are they receiving some sort of royalties for what is a similar part of the song not a sound a like, if you listen to there song it takes a while before you hear a hint of a similar progression but again I am curious why this case was not taking up wider. They called it a slow moving system, um, the song has been out 24 years now and about 22 at the time of this suit.

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Reply #224 posted 08/18/18 4:41pm

42Kristen

Forgive me if I do not recognize any of these songs from 1995 up until the late '90's. I was in a stupor of San Bernardino Valley College during those years that Prince had his hands full with MAYTE GARCIA!

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Reply #225 posted 08/18/18 4:50pm

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42Kristen said:

Forgive me if I do not recognize any of these songs from 1995 up until the late '90's. I was in a stupor of San Bernardino Valley College during those years that Prince had his hands full with MAYTE GARCIA!

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So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #226 posted 08/18/18 6:21pm

206Michelle

I am just finishing listening to Emancipation from start to finish for the first time now that it is on Tidal. I’ve listened to the majority of the album’s songs elsewhere online. I would have liked for Thé Holy River and possibly Saviour to be on Anthology as well, but it thrills me that The Love We Make is on there. I feel that TLWM is in the upper echelon of songs in his Catalogue. Prince seemed to like the song very much also since he played it on tours from 2010 onward. Also, the electric guitar chord progressions in Andy Allo’s song Nothing More are very similar to those in TLWM and Prince was very involved in making Superconductor; it’s probably him playing the electric guitar on NM. So I can infer that he loved the song. His guitar solos during live performances of TLWM were incredible. I’m glad that the song is on Anthology!
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Reply #227 posted 08/18/18 6:57pm

206Michelle

lastdecember said:

206Michelle said:


Prince's Italian Plagiarism Case Drags On
Billboard
https://www.billboard.com...arism-case


It’s interesting that only in Italy are they receiving some sort of royalties for what is a similar part of the song not a sound a like, if you listen to there song it takes a while before you hear a hint of a similar progression but again I am curious why this case was not taking up wider. They called it a slow moving system, um, the song has been out 24 years now and about 22 at the time of this suit.

Arguing that TMBGITW plagiarizes Takin' me to paradise is like saying Ariana Grandés song no tears left to cry plagiarizes Madonna’s Frozen and Christina Aguilera’s Come on Over Baby remix. In other words, it’s a silly argument.
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Reply #228 posted 08/19/18 12:56pm

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Strange Tracklist. Nice to have something post 1993 out there, but again, what a missed opportunity.

Kicking off with Eamcipation????? One of the weaker tracks on that album.

If they are including 10 minute songs why the hell would you choose WEST over Crystal Ball???

Some glaring omissions -

The Holy River

Somebody's somebody

One Kiss at a time

My Computer

The truth

Don't PLay Me

Other side of the pillow

Man 'o' war

She loves me 4 me

Last December (better closer than We March - weakest track on TGE)

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Reply #229 posted 08/19/18 2:58pm

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As nobody has pointed it out before: Tidal features a long, well recherched article about the 1995 - 2010 period, that includes new interviews with Michael B, Chuck Zwicky, Alan Light et al, which contain lots of information and anecdotes, some of which are new to me.

- Michael B says, Michael Jacksons HISTory inspired Prince to release Emancipation as a 3 CD Set.

- Alan Light says, Prince hurt his hip while on the ONA tour.

etc. ect.

Read here:

http://read.tidal.com/article/prince-decade-muse

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Reply #230 posted 08/19/18 5:08pm

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kindofblue said:

As nobody has pointed it out before: Tidal features a long, well recherched article about the 1995 - 2010 period, that includes new interviews with Michael B, Chuck Zwicky, Alan Light et al, which contain lots of information and anecdotes, some of which are new to me.


- Michael B says, Michael Jacksons HISTory inspired Prince to release Emancipation as a 3 CD Set.


- Alan Light says, Prince hurt his hip while on the ONA tour.


etc. ect.


Read here:


http://read.tidal.com/article/prince-decade-muse




Is Bland suggesting Prince was not a great guitar player here or is that just one possible interpretation of his statement?

I'd be interested to see how other people perceived it.
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Reply #231 posted 08/19/18 5:36pm

206Michelle

OperatingThetan said:

kindofblue said:

As nobody has pointed it out before: Tidal features a long, well recherched article about the 1995 - 2010 period, that includes new interviews with Michael B, Chuck Zwicky, Alan Light et al, which contain lots of information and anecdotes, some of which are new to me.


- Michael B says, Michael Jacksons HISTory inspired Prince to release Emancipation as a 3 CD Set.


- Alan Light says, Prince hurt his hip while on the ONA tour.


etc. ect.


Read here:


http://read.tidal.com/article/prince-decade-muse




Is Bland suggesting Prince was not a great guitar player here or is that just one possible interpretation of his statement?

I'd be interested to see how other people perceived it.

“If you can see the finish line before you start the race, that’s a true artist,” Bland says of the period, and Prince’s ability to capture our attention, even now, with these records. “His greatest gift was his inspiration and his creativity, because it’s not that he was a great guitar player, for instance, it’s what he was able to say with it.”

OT, I read it the same way as you did. Michael Bland is suggesting that Prince was not a great guitar player, and I think that MB is out of his damn mind for making that suggestion!!! Seriously, has he lost his mind?!?! Prince was an ELITE electric guitar player, one of the greatest of the 20th and 21st centuries.
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Reply #232 posted 08/19/18 6:06pm

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206Michelle said:

OperatingThetan said:
Is Bland suggesting Prince was not a great guitar player here or is that just one possible interpretation of his statement? I'd be interested to see how other people perceived it.
“If you can see the finish line before you start the race, that’s a true artist,” Bland says of the period, and Prince’s ability to capture our attention, even now, with these records. “His greatest gift was his inspiration and his creativity, because it’s not that he was a great guitar player, for instance, it’s what he was able to say with it.” OT, I read it the same way as you did. Michael Bland is suggesting that Prince was not a great guitar player, and I think that MB is out of his damn mind for making that suggestion!!! Seriously, has he lost his mind?!?! Prince was an ELITE electric guitar player, one of the greatest of the 20th and 21st centuries.

It could be read that way... but it could also be that being a great guitar player is not "his greatest gift" or the thing that made him a "true artist," but instead that "it" was his "inspiration and creativity." I don't think that Bland is saying one way or the other whether Prince was a great guitar player... but even if Prince was one, that's not the thing that mattered most.

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Reply #233 posted 08/19/18 6:18pm

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Dazza said:

Strange Tracklist. Nice to have something post 1993 out there, but again, what a missed opportunity.



Kicking off with Eamcipation????? One of the weaker tracks on that album.



If they are including 10 minute songs why the hell would you choose WEST over Crystal Ball???



Some glaring omissions -


The Holy River


Somebody's somebody


One Kiss at a time


My Computer



The truth


Don't PLay Me


Other side of the pillow



Man 'o' war


She loves me 4 me


Last December (better closer than We March - weakest track on TGE)



The interesting thing is some are asking for a physical cd release, but I think people forget that technically from 1995 through 2010 he had no hits crossover and that’s a reality. I Hate U was the only crossover hit hitting number 12 and then 1999 recharted in 2000. Here and there he had rb hits, Call my Name, Somebody’s Somebody, Future Baby Mama etc...but he never crossed over again, with the exception of 2016 which saw songs recharger after his passing.

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Reply #234 posted 08/19/18 6:31pm

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Dazza said:

Strange Tracklist. Nice to have something post 1993 out there, but again, what a missed opportunity.

Kicking off with Eamcipation????? One of the weaker tracks on that album.

If they are including 10 minute songs why the hell would you choose WEST over Crystal Ball???

Some glaring omissions -

The Holy River

Somebody's somebody

One Kiss at a time

My Computer

The truth

Don't PLay Me

Other side of the pillow

Man 'o' war

She loves me 4 me

Last December (better closer than We March - weakest track on TGE)

Excellent choice - Last December should have closed Anthology.

I agree that The Truth, Don't Play Me, The Holy River, My Computer, and She Loves Me 4 Me should be on there too. I'd also add Avalanche, When the Lights Go Down, Rave Unto the Joy Fantastic, Family Name, 3121, Cinnamon Girl, Boom, Colonized Mind, Calhoun Square, Reflection... probably some others.



And Emancipation is terrible - if I wasn't a Prince fan, that alone would be put me off listening to the rest of the playlist/album, nevermind digging deeper into his work. To kick things off, I think songs like Rave Unto the Joy Fantastic, 3121, Endorphinmachine, would have been much stronger choices.

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Reply #235 posted 08/19/18 7:51pm

206Michelle

EddieC said:



206Michelle said:


OperatingThetan said:
Is Bland suggesting Prince was not a great guitar player here or is that just one possible interpretation of his statement? I'd be interested to see how other people perceived it.

“If you can see the finish line before you start the race, that’s a true artist,” Bland says of the period, and Prince’s ability to capture our attention, even now, with these records. “His greatest gift was his inspiration and his creativity, because it’s not that he was a great guitar player, for instance, it’s what he was able to say with it.”
OT, I read it the same way as you did. Michael Bland is suggesting that Prince was not a great guitar player, and I think that MB is out of his damn mind for making that suggestion!!! Seriously, has he lost his mind?!?! Prince was an ELITE electric guitar player, one of the greatest of the 20th and 21st centuries.

It could be read that way... but it could also be that being a great guitar player is not "his greatest gift" or the thing that made him a "true artist," but instead that "it" was his "inspiration and creativity." I don't think that Bland is saying one way or the other whether Prince was a great guitar player... but even if Prince was one, that's not the thing that mattered most.


Even if his greatest gift was something other than the guitar, to even suggest that Prince was not an elite guitar player is ridiculous!!!
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Reply #236 posted 08/19/18 10:40pm

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This is a decent compilation album,although a couple of glaring omissions (The holy river, somebody's somebody,TMBGITW).
But the problem I have is if it ain't a physical release, i dont see it as real.
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Reply #237 posted 08/19/18 11:57pm

rogifan

206Michelle said:

EddieC said:



206Michelle said:


OperatingThetan said:
Is Bland suggesting Prince was not a great guitar player here or is that just one possible interpretation of his statement? I'd be interested to see how other people perceived it.

“If you can see the finish line before you start the race, that’s a true artist,” Bland says of the period, and Prince’s ability to capture our attention, even now, with these records. “His greatest gift was his inspiration and his creativity, because it’s not that he was a great guitar player, for instance, it’s what he was able to say with it.”
OT, I read it the same way as you did. Michael Bland is suggesting that Prince was not a great guitar player, and I think that MB is out of his damn mind for making that suggestion!!! Seriously, has he lost his mind?!?! Prince was an ELITE electric guitar player, one of the greatest of the 20th and 21st centuries.

It could be read that way... but it could also be that being a great guitar player is not "his greatest gift" or the thing that made him a "true artist," but instead that "it" was his "inspiration and creativity." I don't think that Bland is saying one way or the other whether Prince was a great guitar player... but even if Prince was one, that's not the thing that mattered most.


Even if his greatest gift was something other than the guitar, to even suggest that Prince was not an elite guitar player is ridiculous!!!

Seems to me he just worded what he was trying to say confusingly. I took it that he meant Prince wasn’t just a great guitar player in the clinical/technical sense but that his guitar playing had real heart & soul to it.
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Reply #238 posted 08/20/18 12:06am

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thisisreece said:



Dazza said:


Strange Tracklist. Nice to have something post 1993 out there, but again, what a missed opportunity.



Kicking off with Eamcipation????? One of the weaker tracks on that album.



If they are including 10 minute songs why the hell would you choose WEST over Crystal Ball???



Some glaring omissions -


The Holy River


Somebody's somebody


One Kiss at a time


My Computer



The truth


Don't PLay Me


Other side of the pillow



Man 'o' war


She loves me 4 me


Last December (better closer than We March - weakest track on TGE)



Excellent choice - Last December should have closed Anthology.

I agree that The Truth, Don't Play Me, The Holy River, My Computer, and She Loves Me 4 Me should be on there too. I'd also add Avalanche, When the Lights Go Down, Rave Unto the Joy Fantastic, Family Name, 3121, Cinnamon Girl, Boom, Colonized Mind, Calhoun Square, Reflection... probably some others.




And Emancipation is terrible - if I wasn't a Prince fan, that alone would be put me off listening to the rest of the playlist/album, nevermind digging deeper into his work. To kick things off, I think songs like Rave Unto the Joy Fantastic, 3121, Endorphinmachine, would have been much stronger choices.


I’d love to know who was involved with the track listing. Did they get the input of any NPG members? Or any of the engineers who worked on this stuff like Scottie Baldwin or Dave Hampton?
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Reply #239 posted 08/20/18 2:18am

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206Michelle said:

lastdecember said:
It’s interesting that only in Italy are they receiving some sort of royalties for what is a similar part of the song not a sound a like, if you listen to there song it takes a while before you hear a hint of a similar progression but again I am curious why this case was not taking up wider. They called it a slow moving system, um, the song has been out 24 years now and about 22 at the time of this suit.
Arguing that TMBGITW plagiarizes Takin' me to paradise is like saying Ariana Grandés song no tears left to cry plagiarizes Madonna’s Frozen and Christina Aguilera’s Come on Over Baby remix. In other words, it’s a silly argument.

Not to mention that Takin me to Paradise is virtually unlistenable

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