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Reply #120 posted 08/17/18 8:43am

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Despite this weird ass Anthology tracklist, I'm enjoying listening to it IMMENSELY!



The anthology is an interesting thing could hook in some new people but the fact that it’s there is the thing. Interesting list of course we all have our changes, but still interesting.

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Reply #121 posted 08/17/18 8:43am

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TKO said:

Where are Hit N Run Phase 1 and 2???????

Phase 2 is my favorite album from the 00s and 10s mad

It’s not on the anthology since it cuts off 2010 , but both albums have been up for sale and streaming since day one on Apple and others


I have never seen Phase 1 on Apple Music, only Phase 2.

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Reply #122 posted 08/17/18 8:44am

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Kares said:



lastdecember said:


Silvertongue7 said:
Strange that they haven’t included at least the Gold Experience versión of The Most Beautiful Girl In The World. Cool track list though.

There is a legal battle over the song.

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And the Italian composers claim they've taken action immediately upon hearing Prince's song, so that must've been early 1994, I wonder if their claim was the real reason behind the delay in releasing The Gold Experience, as Prince was publicly blaiming WB for not releasing the album.
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The article I saw didn’t mention the cause just said a legal battle is holding up the song.

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Reply #123 posted 08/17/18 8:47am

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Doozer said:

Listening to Anthology out of curiosity…

The end of The Work Pt. 1 includes what I'd consider the segue into or the beginning of "Everywhere" with the slowed-down-voice narration. Should've ended the song before that…really weird flow into "Call My Name" with that segue present.

I understand that the way TRC is tracked, that spoken word portion is in fact part of the end of The Work Pt. 1, but on the album, the flow is fine. As a single track on Anthology, it should've been handled differently IMHO.



I would have never put anything from NEWS or expectation not because I don’t like it but it just kills the flow of him vocally. I would have tossed in 3121, joy and repetition live, planet earth easily.

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Reply #124 posted 08/17/18 8:48am

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Doozer said:



lastdecember said:


TKO said:

Where are Hit N Run Phase 1 and 2?????



Phase 2 is my favorite album from the 00s and 10s mad



It’s not on the anthology since it cuts off 2010 , but both albums have been up for sale and streaming since day one on Apple and others


I have never seen Phase 1 on Apple Music, only Phase 2.



Correct

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Reply #125 posted 08/17/18 8:48am

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TKO said:


Where are Hit N Run Phase 1 and 2?????



Phase 2 is my favorite album from the 00s and 10s mad







I think Sony gets those in a couple of years as part of the deal.

https://www.prnewswire.co...72798.html

" Additional album titles from the 2014-2015 era will also be distributed with worldwide rights under the deal in the future."
[Edited 8/17/18 8:56am]

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Reply #126 posted 08/17/18 8:55am

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Jup, I like Anthology. Ofcourse, we could have picked other songs, in a better sequence, ladila, but for newcomers this is an eye opener.



hmph!


I agree. I’m sure that we can all come up with our own tracklist that we would consider better, and that there are some bizarre choices, but it’s a cool compitaltion. The sequence that starts with Strays Of the World and goes to Endorphinmachine is brutal. I don’t know if it will bring many more fans onboard, but it is a good introduction to Prince’s later catalogue.
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Reply #127 posted 08/17/18 8:55am

luvsexy4all

this should get dumbasses to see all the good stuff from those years

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Reply #128 posted 08/17/18 8:58am

Kares

lastdecember said:

Kares said:

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And the Italian composers claim they've taken action immediately upon hearing Prince's song, so that must've been early 1994, I wonder if their claim was the real reason behind the delay in releasing The Gold Experience, as Prince was publicly blaiming WB for not releasing the album.
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The article I saw didn’t mention the cause just said a legal battle is holding up the song.

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I was reading an older article about the plagiarism claim that mentioned the Italian composers took action immediately in 1994. And I was referring to the delay in releasing The Gold Experience before it came out eventually in late 1995.
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Reply #129 posted 08/17/18 9:12am

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lastdecember said:

TKO said:

Where are Hit N Run Phase 1 and 2???????

Phase 2 is my favorite album from the 00s and 10s mad

It’s not on the anthology since it cuts off 2010 , but both albums have been up for sale and streaming since day one on Apple and others

Apple Music is not available in my country. I HATE Tidal. I got Spotify Premium.

I own the album physical copies. But i wanted HNR P2 on Spotify since it's one of my favorite albums by P. mad

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Reply #130 posted 08/17/18 9:32am

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any word on physical CDs ?

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Reply #131 posted 08/17/18 9:35am

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I’m not sure that is on the way, the anthology is the only thing for sale now on Apple outside of what was there all the albums are for streaming. Not sure if the deal allows physical CDs releases

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Reply #132 posted 08/17/18 9:43am

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I’m not sure that is on the way, the anthology is the only thing for sale now on Apple outside of what was there all the albums are for streaming. Not sure if the deal allows physical CDs releases

I think all the albums are for sale, other than The Gold Experience.
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Reply #133 posted 08/17/18 9:51am

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lastdecember said:

I’m not sure that is on the way, the anthology is the only thing for sale now on Apple outside of what was there all the albums are for streaming. Not sure if the deal allows physical CDs releases

They're certainly ALLOWED to release CDs, but that doesn't mean they will bother for the older titles. Steaming is the future, folks.

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Reply #134 posted 08/17/18 9:54am

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What's streaming... razz

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Reply #135 posted 08/17/18 9:55am

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Thankful for the convenience of having everything 95+ on Spotify. If they distribute all these on cd, vinyl remastered and release on hdtracks they may as well take one of my paychecks. lol Anthology is difficult rather playlist, best Prince ballads and another of Funk. Make own.

I think we can all collectively say.
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Reply #136 posted 08/17/18 10:10am

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Kares said:

lastdecember said:

Kares said: The article I saw didn’t mention the cause just said a legal battle is holding up the song.

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I was reading an older article about the plagiarism claim that mentioned the Italian composers took action immediately in 1994. And I was referring to the delay in releasing The Gold Experience before it came out eventually in late 1995.
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Prince Rebuffed In Italian Plagiarism Case

An Italian court has ruled that Prince's 1994 hit "The Most Beautiful Girl in the World" was plagiarized from a song by two Italian writers. However, it could take several years for a definitive ruling in the case, which has already dragged on since the 1990s.

According to a sentence handed down by the Court of Appeal in Rome, the song borrowed heavily from "Takin' Me to Paradise," written by Bruno Bergonzi and Michele Vicino.

Under the ruling, Prince must stop distributing the song on Italian territory. He also faces having to pay the royalties he has so far accumulated to Bergonzi and Vicino and their publishers, but only if a final hearing confirms the Italian songwriting duo was plagiarized.

this case has been dragging on for 15 years and it isn't over yet, such is the slowness of the Italian legal system. We only decided to go public with our story now."

The ruling is in fact an appeal against the original sentence, which, in 2003, rejected Bergonzi and Vicino's claim. This latest ruling was actually made in December 2007 and registered on Feb. 11 last year, but Bergonzi and Vicino have only now spoken out.

For a sentence to become definitive in Italy, a "third degree" ruling is necessary and this could take several more years.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/269635/prince-rebuffed-in-italian-plagiarism-case

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #137 posted 08/17/18 10:17am

Kares

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Kares said:

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I was reading an older article about the plagiarism claim that mentioned the Italian composers took action immediately in 1994. And I was referring to the delay in releasing The Gold Experience before it came out eventually in late 1995.
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Prince Rebuffed In Italian Plagiarism Case

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/269635/prince-rebuffed-in-italian-plagiarism-case

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And you're quoting me this article because?... smile

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Seriously, I know my English isn't perfect but why is it so hard to understand from my post that I'm talking about the initial delay in releasing TGE back in 1994-95, not about the current deal and digital releases? smile
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I was merely speculating that the Italian case could've been the real reason behind the delay in releasing TGE before late 1995, while Prince was publicly blaming WB instead and asking fans to petition WB to "free the Gold Experience".

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Reply #138 posted 08/17/18 10:19am

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ChocolateBox3121 said:



Kares said:




lastdecember said:


Kares said: The article I saw didn’t mention the cause just said a legal battle is holding up the song.

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I was reading an older article about the plagiarism claim that mentioned the Italian composers took action immediately in 1994. And I was referring to the delay in releasing The Gold Experience before it came out eventually in late 1995.
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Prince Rebuffed In Italian Plagiarism Case






An Italian court has ruled that Prince's 1994 hit "The Most Beautiful Girl in the World" was plagiarized from a song by two Italian writers. However, it could take several years for a definitive ruling in the case, which has already dragged on since the 1990s.

According to a sentence handed down by the Court of Appeal in Rome, the song borrowed heavily from "Takin' Me to Paradise," written by Bruno Bergonzi and Michele Vicino.

Under the ruling, Prince must stop distributing the song on Italian territory. He also faces having to pay the royalties he has so far accumulated to Bergonzi and Vicino and their publishers, but only if a final hearing confirms the Italian songwriting duo was plagiarized.



this case has been dragging on for 15 years and it isn't over yet, such is the slowness of the Italian legal system. We only decided to go public with our story now."

The ruling is in fact an appeal against the original sentence, which, in 2003, rejected Bergonzi and Vicino's claim. This latest ruling was actually made in December 2007 and registered on Feb. 11 last year, but Bergonzi and Vicino have only now spoken out.

For a sentence to become definitive in Italy, a "third degree" ruling is necessary and this could take several more years.




https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/269635/prince-rebuffed-in-italian-plagiarism-case



Listened to the track there is nothing there at all that sounds like it, but most of these cases are ridiculous anyway, some deaf judges and listeners in Italy apparently

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Reply #139 posted 08/17/18 10:22am

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TwiliteKid said:



lastdecember said:


I’m not sure that is on the way, the anthology is the only thing for sale now on Apple outside of what was there all the albums are for streaming. Not sure if the deal allows physical CDs releases


They're certainly ALLOWED to release CDs, but that doesn't mean they will bother for the older titles. Steaming is the future, folks.



With any reissue is only a fan thing you really are not going to get new fans. Purple rain sold 25 million, the reissue worldwide sold less than a million, so that’s actually telling on how people buy reissues and who buys them regardless of streaming services now, fans will stream it but no new people are gonna

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Reply #140 posted 08/17/18 10:25am

Kares

lastdecember said:


Listened to the track there is nothing there at all that sounds like it, but most of these cases are ridiculous anyway, some deaf judges and listeners in Italy apparently

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Don't know who's deaf but the melody of the chorus is actually the same in both songs. I'm not saying it's definitely stolen, as it's a very simple 4-note melody that two people can come up with by accident, but it's the same melody in both songs so the Italians actually do have a strong case.

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Reply #141 posted 08/17/18 10:39am

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lastdecember said:

TwiliteKid said:

They're certainly ALLOWED to release CDs, but that doesn't mean they will bother for the older titles. Steaming is the future, folks.

With any reissue is only a fan thing you really are not going to get new fans. Purple rain sold 25 million, the reissue worldwide sold less than a million, so that’s actually telling on how people buy reissues and who buys them regardless of streaming services now, fans will stream it but no new people are gonna

rolleyes

Speak for yourself...

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #142 posted 08/17/18 10:46am

Kares

TwiliteKid said:

lastdecember said:

I’m not sure that is on the way, the anthology is the only thing for sale now on Apple outside of what was there all the albums are for streaming. Not sure if the deal allows physical CDs releases

They're certainly ALLOWED to release CDs, but that doesn't mean they will bother for the older titles. Steaming is the future, folks.

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Streaming in its current form is a dead-end, it is big right now but its business modell is unsustainable and it will be history sooner than you think.

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Reply #143 posted 08/17/18 11:06am

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Kares said:



TwiliteKid said:




lastdecember said:


I’m not sure that is on the way, the anthology is the only thing for sale now on Apple outside of what was there all the albums are for streaming. Not sure if the deal allows physical CDs releases


They're certainly ALLOWED to release CDs, but that doesn't mean they will bother for the older titles. Steaming is the future, folks.



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Streaming in its current form is a dead-end, it is big right now but its business modell is unsustainable and it will be history sooner than you think.


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Exactly it's a dead business model that artists are trying to get more money out if because they get pennies when this is sorted out prices for services will go up more, streaming is basically a vendor that sells nothing but a service, designed to fail.

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Reply #144 posted 08/17/18 11:45am

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https://www.youtube.com/w...J_ANfb3WyE

Here is the Italian song.

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Reply #145 posted 08/17/18 11:49am

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Doozer said:

djThunderfunk said:

New cover for The Truth? Anybody able to post?




Thanks, Doozer!

Is this new? I could swear I've seen this cover before.


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Reply #146 posted 08/17/18 12:11pm

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djThunderfunk said:

Doozer said:




Thanks, Doozer!

Is this new? I could swear I've seen this cover before.



the previous one is a bit more of a close up (same picture) and the colours are more pink/reddish.
also the prince is in the left bottom corner in the previous one. but they are very similar. i think i'm
liking this one more since the picture is beter resolution and the colours are a bit more real.

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Reply #147 posted 08/17/18 12:15pm

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IstenSzek said:

djThunderfunk said:


Thanks, Doozer!

Is this new? I could swear I've seen this cover before.



the previous one is a bit more of a close up (same picture) and the colours are more pink/reddish.
also the prince is in the left bottom corner in the previous one. but they are very similar. i think i'm
liking this one more since the picture is beter resolution and the colours are a bit more real.


Ahh... Thanks!

I didn't look at the other, just going by my faulty memory. lol

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Reply #148 posted 08/17/18 12:44pm

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The Antology does not have nothing from "The Vault... Old Friends 4 Sale" too.

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Reply #149 posted 08/17/18 12:53pm

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The Antology does not have nothing from "The Vault... Old Friends 4 Sale" too.

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That's on Warner and was already up on the streaming services.

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