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Reply #90 posted 08/05/18 6:22am

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scififilmnerd said:


I just watched Uncovering Prince With Anna Fantastic and she says she has a cassette copy of the uncirculating I Believe I Love U that was recorded for Graffiti Bridge in 1987 and 1988. You forgot to ask H.M. Buff if he kept copies of the songs. Maybe he's got the full length She Gave Her Angels and The Divine? shocked






Yes, Anna has that.

She is a dear friend and a wonderful person. In fact, she consulted with myself and Kim about whether or not she should upload the video demo she did for "Fantasia Erotica" plus the recordings of the phonecalls she had with Prince that are included.



I haven't heard that song - but she did play us the entire "Anna Waiting" whilst we were there, and it's phenomenal.



I don't believe that Hans kept copies of songs, that's not really good practice for an engineer. Prince may have gave him some in some cases, but I very much doubt that he would specifically make copies for himself.

I can ask him - we talk a lot on WhatsApp. After this interview, we spoke a little bit about some other songs, and he also remembers working on "Love Never Has 2 Say Goodbye".





Does Anna Waiting differ musically from Vicky Waiting?
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Reply #91 posted 08/05/18 1:51pm

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Militant said:



Yes, Anna has that.

She is a dear friend and a wonderful person. In fact, she consulted with myself and Kim about whether or not she should upload the video demo she did for "Fantasia Erotica" plus the recordings of the phonecalls she had with Prince that are included.


I haven't heard that song - but she did play us the entire "Anna Waiting" whilst we were there, and it's phenomenal.

I don't believe that Hans kept copies of songs, that's not really good practice for an engineer. Prince may have gave him some in some cases, but I very much doubt that he would specifically make copies for himself.

I can ask him - we talk a lot on WhatsApp. After this interview, we spoke a little bit about some other songs, and he also remembers working on "Love Never Has 2 Say Goodbye".



Does Anna Waiting differ musically from Vicky Waiting?

There's some additional guitar licks and synth parts. There's a circulating demo of "Vicki Waiting" which resembles "Anna Waiting" musically. Most of the differences though are lyrical and arrangement wise - for example, there's an additional high vocal harmony on the chorus that isn't on "Vicki".

Second verse starts with "All is well in Lonely Town" - Lonely being a play on "London".

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Reply #92 posted 08/05/18 2:37pm

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I know this is not the same era but I remember Prince saying during an interview (don't remember the source at all ) that Prince confirmed that an extended 20 mn + version of ADORE from SOTT sessions was recorded and is in the vault ...would be cool if Militant can keep in touch with the engineer who was in charge of this sessions (susan Rogers?) and confirm that?
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Reply #93 posted 08/05/18 3:55pm

paulludvig

Militant said:



paulludvig said:


Militant said:





Yes, Anna has that.

She is a dear friend and a wonderful person. In fact, she consulted with myself and Kim about whether or not she should upload the video demo she did for "Fantasia Erotica" plus the recordings of the phonecalls she had with Prince that are included.



I haven't heard that song - but she did play us the entire "Anna Waiting" whilst we were there, and it's phenomenal.



I don't believe that Hans kept copies of songs, that's not really good practice for an engineer. Prince may have gave him some in some cases, but I very much doubt that he would specifically make copies for himself.

I can ask him - we talk a lot on WhatsApp. After this interview, we spoke a little bit about some other songs, and he also remembers working on "Love Never Has 2 Say Goodbye".





Does Anna Waiting differ musically from Vicky Waiting?


There's some additional guitar licks and synth parts. There's a circulating demo of "Vicki Waiting" which resembles "Anna Waiting" musically. Most of the differences though are lyrical and arrangement wise - for example, there's an additional high vocal harmony on the chorus that isn't on "Vicki".

Second verse starts with "All is well in Lonely Town" - Lonely being a play on "London".







Cool! Thanks.
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Reply #94 posted 08/06/18 9:50am

madhouseman

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I know this is not the same era but I remember Prince saying during an interview (don't remember the source at all ) that Prince confirmed that an extended 20 mn + version of ADORE from SOTT sessions was recorded and is in the vault ...would be cool if Militant can keep in touch with the engineer who was in charge of this sessions (susan Rogers?) and confirm that?

I've never seen that quote. Where is that from? That is a cool bit of information. Thanx!

My book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2017. (https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538105497/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) or go to https://www.facebook.com/...s/10915961
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Reply #95 posted 08/06/18 10:25am

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madhouseman said:

love2thenines2003 said:

I know this is not the same era but I remember Prince saying during an interview (don't remember the source at all ) that Prince confirmed that an extended 20 mn + version of ADORE from SOTT sessions was recorded and is in the vault ...would be cool if Militant can keep in touch with the engineer who was in charge of this sessions (susan Rogers?) and confirm that?

I've never seen that quote. Where is that from? That is a cool bit of information. Thanx!

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That was from the Peach and Black Podcast. Two of the guys got to hang out with Prince and he mentioned the 20 minute version of Adore as well as a deluxe version of 20TEN among other things. I can't remember the exact episode number, but I'm sure if you contact the fellas they would be more than happy to hook you up. I should point out that they just recount the story because they weren't allowed to record the interview.

https://peachandblack.podbean.com/

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Reply #96 posted 08/07/18 9:25am

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Great interview. Congrats to both of you at the Violet Realty, Militant.


Great job keeping us informed with new and insightful information.


Don't bother feeding the trolls. They're beneath you, (and us) and not worth a response. In truth, I think we all would be better served if you just deleted their posts. They're antagonistic and not productive in the least.

I second that.

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Reply #97 posted 08/07/18 12:42pm

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TheBoneRanger said:



madhouseman said:




love2thenines2003 said:


I know this is not the same era but I remember Prince saying during an interview (don't remember the source at all ) that Prince confirmed that an extended 20 mn + version of ADORE from SOTT sessions was recorded and is in the vault ...would be cool if Militant can keep in touch with the engineer who was in charge of this sessions (susan Rogers?) and confirm that?


I've never seen that quote. Where is that from? That is a cool bit of information. Thanx!



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That was from the Peach and Black Podcast. Two of the guys got to hang out with Prince and he mentioned the 20 minute version of Adore as well as a deluxe version of 20TEN among other things. I can't remember the exact episode number, but I'm sure if you contact the fellas they would be more than happy to hook you up. I should point out that they just recount the story because they weren't allowed to record the interview.



https://peachandblack.podbean.com/


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Oh for a box set of 20TEN deluxe and the Welcome 2 America album, along with any other oddities from the era. Would be a fairly good choice since 20TEN was never officially released outside Europe.
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Reply #98 posted 08/07/18 1:25pm

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Totally unrelated to H.M. Buff, but speaking of who has copies of what, I just watched Uncovering Prince With Elisa Fiorillo. She says she has a cassette copy of a previously unknown outtake I Think U Wanna Dance from her I Am album. That's interesting. Also, she mentions Dolphin, Strays Of The World and Dark as examples of Prince's great songwriting ability - I like that! biggrin

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Reply #99 posted 08/07/18 3:00pm

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Blue Light is just alright? Unforgivable! razz. Thanks, I thought the interview at just under an hour and twenty minutes was a bit short. Should have been at least five days longer. Thanks to Hans, as well. Loved hearing about Larry Graham. Dude gets a bad rap from certain parts, nice to hear something positive from someone who actually met the man.

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Reply #100 posted 08/07/18 4:17pm

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OperatingThetan said:

TheBoneRanger said:

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That was from the Peach and Black Podcast. Two of the guys got to hang out with Prince and he mentioned the 20 minute version of Adore as well as a deluxe version of 20TEN among other things. I can't remember the exact episode number, but I'm sure if you contact the fellas they would be more than happy to hook you up. I should point out that they just recount the story because they weren't allowed to record the interview.

https://peachandblack.podbean.com/

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Oh for a box set of 20TEN deluxe and the Welcome 2 America album, along with any other oddities from the era. Would be a fairly good choice since 20TEN was never officially released outside Europe.

we'll all be dead before they delve into that time period

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Reply #101 posted 08/07/18 4:53pm

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scififilmnerd said:

Totally unrelated to H.M. Buff, but speaking of who has copies of what, I just watched Uncovering Prince With Elisa Fiorillo. She says she has a cassette copy of a previously unknown outtake I Think U Wanna Dance from her I Am album. That's interesting. Also, she mentions Dolphin, Strays Of The World and Dark as examples of Prince's great songwriting ability - I like that! biggrin

i always loved strays, i felt a kinship with that notion which prince always embodied anyway.

Prince.org: With fans like these he didn't need haters.
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Reply #102 posted 08/07/18 11:45pm

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luvsexy4all said:

OperatingThetan said:

TheBoneRanger said: Oh for a box set of 20TEN deluxe and the Welcome 2 America album, along with any other oddities from the era. Would be a fairly good choice since 20TEN was never officially released outside Europe.

we'll all be dead before they delve into that time period

That would be a shame.

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Reply #103 posted 08/08/18 1:49am

madhouseman

TheBoneRanger said:

madhouseman said:

I've never seen that quote. Where is that from? That is a cool bit of information. Thanx!

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That was from the Peach and Black Podcast. Two of the guys got to hang out with Prince and he mentioned the 20 minute version of Adore as well as a deluxe version of 20TEN among other things. I can't remember the exact episode number, but I'm sure if you contact the fellas they would be more than happy to hook you up. I should point out that they just recount the story because they weren't allowed to record the interview.

https://peachandblack.podbean.com/

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Thank you. Love Peach & Black! I'll check it out.

My book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2017. (https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538105497/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) or go to https://www.facebook.com/...s/10915961
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Reply #104 posted 08/08/18 11:30am

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madhouseman said:

TheBoneRanger said:

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That was from the Peach and Black Podcast. Two of the guys got to hang out with Prince and he mentioned the 20 minute version of Adore as well as a deluxe version of 20TEN among other things. I can't remember the exact episode number, but I'm sure if you contact the fellas they would be more than happy to hook you up. I should point out that they just recount the story because they weren't allowed to record the interview.

https://peachandblack.podbean.com/

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Thank you. Love Peach & Black! I'll check it out.

You're welcome. I just listened to the most recent show (non album tracks VOL 2) and when they reviewed "Rich Friends," which was supposed to be on 20TEN deluxe, they said the meeting with Prince happened in 2010. So that particular show after the meet probably came out in 2010 or early 2011.

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I'm looking forward to more in your "Studio Sessions" series. You're doing important work! Perhaps you and Hans can get together if/when you're able to do the 1996-2000 era.

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Reply #105 posted 08/09/18 6:11pm

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If anyone's interested, our new episode is up with Tamar smile

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Reply #106 posted 08/12/18 7:03pm

TheBoneRanger

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Militant said:

If anyone's interested, our new episode is up with Tamar smile

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Cool, thanks! I'll have to check out some more of your interviews. Great work!

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Reply #107 posted 08/13/18 3:17am

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Ditto on the "Release It" beat sample. That's the one I would most want, too.

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Isn't that sample just the opening bars of Squib Cakes by Tower of Power?

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Reply #108 posted 08/13/18 4:49am

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TheBoneRanger said:

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Ditto on the "Release It" beat sample. That's the one I would most want, too.

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Isn't that sample just the opening bars of Squib Cakes by Tower of Power?

Is it? I'll be damned.

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Reply #109 posted 08/13/18 9:26am

timmie

Great work on those interviews - Cheers ! Love hearing things from the people who knew him. So interesting !

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Reply #110 posted 08/16/18 5:33am

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Hans Martin Buff says : "There's two albums for every one that was released..."

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THAT'S ABOUT WHAT ? 50/70 OR SO UNRELEASED ALBUMS ???

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eek

"...no matter what, all will be fine, always."
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Reply #111 posted 08/16/18 4:59pm

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I LOVE Han's quirky sense of humor. I can imagine him and Prince had a LOT of laughs together.

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #112 posted 08/21/18 8:42am

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Good stuff but where is the NewPowerSoul chat?
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Reply #113 posted 08/27/18 10:48am

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If anyone's interested, our new episode is up with Tamar smile

Another great interview!!! Love, love, love your knowledge and enthusiasm for all things Prince!! Your episodes are well organized, include smart and interesting questions, and are also very entertaining. You and Kim are certainly part of the "Prince-o-pedia" club, which is impressive, because I don't think you two were around, or old enough for Prince in the 80's smile

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Tamar is a fantastic singer, and seems to be a sweet and geniune person. Being a teen in the 80's and a HUGE Revolution fan, however, I was sad when she said she did not know who Wendy and Lisa were when she was performing on stage with them at the 2006 Brit awards. I know her age and musical exposure at that time played a part, but even more disheartening was that Prince did not tell her they would be on stage prior to the show sad I can only imagine how she felt afterward.

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Reply #114 posted 08/27/18 10:50am

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madhouseman said:

TheBoneRanger said:

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That was from the Peach and Black Podcast. Two of the guys got to hang out with Prince and he mentioned the 20 minute version of Adore as well as a deluxe version of 20TEN among other things. I can't remember the exact episode number, but I'm sure if you contact the fellas they would be more than happy to hook you up. I should point out that they just recount the story because they weren't allowed to record the interview.

https://peachandblack.podbean.com/

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Thank you. Love Peach & Black! I'll check it out.

Madhouseman - LOVED your book. Read it in two days!! You MUST do the 85-87 recordings!!!

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Reply #115 posted 08/28/18 9:56am

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I enjoyed the Támar interview. I hope she got a copy of On Your Own. It's amazing that she doesn't have a copy of her previously unknown Milk & Honey-outtake Esther either. eek Anyway, watching the interview made me pull out my copy of Milk & Honey and giving it a few spins. As Prince's latter-day protegées go, this album was among the better. Love Redhead Stepchild, too. biggrin

I've been listening to prince's 1993-1996 recordings of late, including On Your Own, so it was fun hearing the story behind that recording. razz

Now, as for other people from that era...Chronic Freeze had a questionnaire thread on the Org once and he didn't remember much of interest regarding the prince Era recordings, but might I suggest Ricky Peterson for an upcoming episode of Uncovering Prince by The Violet Reality? He co-produced some songs back then, including for The Gold Experience and Madhouse: 24 - he even worked on The Most Beautiful Girl In The World. Maybe he knows who it was originally about before prince sent it to his entire harem? And maybe he knows if there was a pre-existing recording of 319 from the Batman Era sessions (as Cat has claimed) before prince re-recorded it with The NPG with Ricky's help? Just a suggestion. wink

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Reply #116 posted 08/28/18 1:28pm

violetcrush

scififilmnerd said:

I enjoyed the Támar interview. I hope she got a copy of On Your Own. It's amazing that she doesn't have a copy of her previously unknown Milk & Honey-outtake Esther either. eek Anyway, watching the interview made me pull out my copy of Milk & Honey and giving it a few spins. As Prince's latter-day protegées go, this album was among the better. Love Redhead Stepchild, too. biggrin

I've been listening to prince's 1993-1996 recordings of late, including On Your Own, so it was fun hearing the story behind that recording. razz

Now, as for other people from that era...Chronic Freeze had a questionnaire thread on the Org once and he didn't remember much of interest regarding the prince Era recordings, but might I suggest Ricky Peterson for an upcoming episode of Uncovering Prince by The Violet Reality? He co-produced some songs back then, including for The Gold Experience and Madhouse: 24 - he even worked on The Most Beautiful Girl In The World. Maybe he knows who it was originally about before prince sent it to his entire harem? And maybe he knows if there was a pre-existing recording of 319 from the Batman Era sessions (as Cat has claimed) before prince re-recorded it with The NPG with Ricky's help? Just a suggestion. wink

Ricky Peterson is a great suggestion. He goes all the way back to the early days with Prince, and would certainly have loads of information to share on both 80's and 90's recording.

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Redheaded Stepchild is my favorite Prince/Tamar song, and 319 is probably my favorite track on the Gold album, along with I Hate U smile I had not heard that 319 was possibly recorded back in '89. Wow, that would be an interesting story to hear.

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Reply #117 posted 08/30/18 4:16pm

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scififilmnerd said:

I enjoyed the Támar interview. I hope she got a copy of On Your Own. It's amazing that she doesn't have a copy of her previously unknown Milk & Honey-outtake Esther either. eek Anyway, watching the interview made me pull out my copy of Milk & Honey and giving it a few spins. As Prince's latter-day protegées go, this album was among the better. Love Redhead Stepchild, too. biggrin

I've been listening to prince's 1993-1996 recordings of late, including On Your Own, so it was fun hearing the story behind that recording. razz

Now, as for other people from that era...Chronic Freeze had a questionnaire thread on the Org once and he didn't remember much of interest regarding the prince Era recordings, but might I suggest Ricky Peterson for an upcoming episode of Uncovering Prince by The Violet Reality? He co-produced some songs back then, including for The Gold Experience and Madhouse: 24 - he even worked on The Most Beautiful Girl In The World. Maybe he knows who it was originally about before prince sent it to his entire harem? And maybe he knows if there was a pre-existing recording of 319 from the Batman Era sessions (as Cat has claimed) before prince re-recorded it with The NPG with Ricky's help? Just a suggestion. wink




Funny you should say that.... in April, Kim and I were invited to Paul (and Ricky's) family house to watch fDeluxe rehearse the day before their set at Paisley.

It was just the band, their manager, myself, Kim and Ricky there.

I made sure to tell him how much I enjoyed his work on songs like TMBGITW and Letitgo.

He's a busy guy, and I believe is now on the road with Fleetwood Mac, but we'd definitely love to interview him sometime.






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Reply #118 posted 08/31/18 9:52am

violetcrush

Militant said:

scififilmnerd said:

I enjoyed the Támar interview. I hope she got a copy of On Your Own. It's amazing that she doesn't have a copy of her previously unknown Milk & Honey-outtake Esther either. eek Anyway, watching the interview made me pull out my copy of Milk & Honey and giving it a few spins. As Prince's latter-day protegées go, this album was among the better. Love Redhead Stepchild, too. biggrin

I've been listening to prince's 1993-1996 recordings of late, including On Your Own, so it was fun hearing the story behind that recording. razz

Now, as for other people from that era...Chronic Freeze had a questionnaire thread on the Org once and he didn't remember much of interest regarding the prince Era recordings, but might I suggest Ricky Peterson for an upcoming episode of Uncovering Prince by The Violet Reality? He co-produced some songs back then, including for The Gold Experience and Madhouse: 24 - he even worked on The Most Beautiful Girl In The World. Maybe he knows who it was originally about before prince sent it to his entire harem? And maybe he knows if there was a pre-existing recording of 319 from the Batman Era sessions (as Cat has claimed) before prince re-recorded it with The NPG with Ricky's help? Just a suggestion. wink




Funny you should say that.... in April, Kim and I were invited to Paul (and Ricky's) family house to watch fDeluxe rehearse the day before their set at Paisley.

It was just the band, their manager, myself, Kim and Ricky there.

I made sure to tell him how much I enjoyed his work on songs like TMBGITW and Letitgo.

He's a busy guy, and I believe is now on the road with Fleetwood Mac, but we'd definitely love to interview him sometime.






Wow, what a treat. I believe they streamed on FB Live at Paul's house after that rehearsal.

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What about an interview with Susannah? She has so much information on recordings for the 83-87 years. I loved her interview with Toure, which was more focused on her relationship with Prince, but it would also be great to hear more about her experiences with recording the songs with him during that period.

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Reply #119 posted 09/04/18 8:40am

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hi,

Thanks a lot for the interview, good stuff!!

One question on the interview: Hans-Martin refers 2 times to the decision to "open the studio". what is this about? making Paisley Park available to be rented by musicians as in the first years?

Secondly, general question: would you consider sharing the audio-only of your interviews similar to podcasts like Peach and Black and the Prince Podcat? I'm sure there's quite an audience interested in that (i converted the audio now to mp3 to listen to it on my commute).

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