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Reply #120 posted 06/28/18 7:45am

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lastdecember said:

It seems that Prince's stuff will be all over the place coming from different labels, also I think Sony will handle physical releases, though there really arent any stores now, and the demand on physical cd's from the era when mainstream forgot Prince, what is the real point UNLESS you are remastering and packaging but that is going to cost $$$, we have to remember that even the more popular 1995- stuff like Emancipation, Musicology, 3121 etc...are still not going to be major sellers by any means even if remasterd and packaged, by study, re-issues sell less than 1% of what the original sold, so as Prince would say "Do the math"



I think the only album that have a (ridiculous) chance to have à physical release through the Sony website (not à chance in stores) are his gold/ Platinum albums : Gold, Rave, Émancipation, Musicology, 3121, Lotus Flower...Côme is still out of print too.
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Three important things that were not discussed yet concerning this deal:
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1. What become of the greatest Hits albums? Are they part of the deal? Or were they simply forgotten? They are the only Prince albums that are selling, with Purple Rain of course.
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2. Sign o the Times Will likely be considéréd as à soundtrack of the movie
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3. Girl 6, as à soundtrack, Will be owned forever by Warner. And it contains 3 tracks from SOTT...1 track from Exodus...2 tracks from the Hits...
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Reply #121 posted 06/28/18 7:51am

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So, as mentioned:

Purple Rain
Parade
Batman
Graffiti Bridge

Meanwhile, there's a possibility that other albums can be available for inclusion in movie soundtracks. Oh baby
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Reply #122 posted 06/28/18 7:57am

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RODSERLING said:

lastdecember said:

It seems that Prince's stuff will be all over the place coming from different labels, also I think Sony will handle physical releases, though there really arent any stores now, and the demand on physical cd's from the era when mainstream forgot Prince, what is the real point UNLESS you are remastering and packaging but that is going to cost $$$, we have to remember that even the more popular 1995- stuff like Emancipation, Musicology, 3121 etc...are still not going to be major sellers by any means even if remasterd and packaged, by study, re-issues sell less than 1% of what the original sold, so as Prince would say "Do the math"

I think the only album that have a (ridiculous) chance to have à physical release through the Sony website (not à chance in stores) are his gold/ Platinum albums : Gold, Rave, Émancipation, Musicology, 3121, Lotus Flower...Côme is still out of print too. . Three important things that were not discussed yet concerning this deal: . 1. What become of the greatest Hits albums? Are they part of the deal? Or were they simply forgotten? They are the only Prince albums that are selling, with Purple Rain of course. . 2. Sign o the Times Will likely be considéréd as à soundtrack of the movie . 3. Girl 6, as à soundtrack, Will be owned forever by Warner. And it contains 3 tracks from SOTT...1 track from Exodus...2 tracks from the Hits... .


The Hits and Girl 6 were both listed as "compilations" (along with The Very Best Of Prince) on princeestate dot com. I don't think they would have an interest in reissuing compilations.

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Reply #123 posted 06/28/18 7:57am

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Dauphin said:

So, as mentioned: Purple Rain Parade Batman Graffiti Bridge


(and their respective movies)

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Reply #124 posted 06/28/18 8:05am

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Cinny said:



Dauphin said:


So, as mentioned: Purple Rain Parade Batman Graffiti Bridge


(and their respective movies)



Sorry didn't finish my thought. I'm wondering if other albums are now available for the, movie, commercial, etc.

I'm hoping the next Sony Spider-Man movie has Prince music!
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Reply #125 posted 06/28/18 8:17am

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Dauphin said:

So, as mentioned: Purple Rain Parade Batman Graffiti Bridge Meanwhile, there's a possibility that other albums can be available for inclusion in movie soundtracks. Oh baby [Edited 6/28/18 8:03am]

I wonder why SOTT isn't considered or listed as a soundtrack? It did have a full fledged motion picture that accompanied it.

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #126 posted 06/28/18 8:49am

RODSERLING

Cinny said:



RODSERLING said:


lastdecember said:

It seems that Prince's stuff will be all over the place coming from different labels, also I think Sony will handle physical releases, though there really arent any stores now, and the demand on physical cd's from the era when mainstream forgot Prince, what is the real point UNLESS you are remastering and packaging but that is going to cost $$$, we have to remember that even the more popular 1995- stuff like Emancipation, Musicology, 3121 etc...are still not going to be major sellers by any means even if remasterd and packaged, by study, re-issues sell less than 1% of what the original sold, so as Prince would say "Do the math"



I think the only album that have a (ridiculous) chance to have à physical release through the Sony website (not à chance in stores) are his gold/ Platinum albums : Gold, Rave, Émancipation, Musicology, 3121, Lotus Flower...Côme is still out of print too. . Three important things that were not discussed yet concerning this deal: . 1. What become of the greatest Hits albums? Are they part of the deal? Or were they simply forgotten? They are the only Prince albums that are selling, with Purple Rain of course. . 2. Sign o the Times Will likely be considéréd as à soundtrack of the movie . 3. Girl 6, as à soundtrack, Will be owned forever by Warner. And it contains 3 tracks from SOTT...1 track from Exodus...2 tracks from the Hits... .


The Hits and Girl 6 were both listed as "compilations" (along with The Very Best Of Prince) on princeestate dot com. I don't think they would have an interest in reissuing compilations.



But they won t reissue his albums at all! That is not what the deal is About.
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You really thought they were going to reissue 1999 or Dirty Minds with à new Sony logo? That they would repackage his albums, knowing the deal is only for the USa?
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The physical market Will be Dead by 5 years...An album such as Lovesexy sells maybe 5000 ex a year in the USa...what would be the point?
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Reply #127 posted 06/28/18 9:03am

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ChocolateBox3121 said:



Dauphin said:


So, as mentioned: Purple Rain Parade Batman Graffiti Bridge Meanwhile, there's a possibility that other albums can be available for inclusion in movie soundtracks. Oh baby [Edited 6/28/18 8:03am]

I wonder why SOTT isn't considered or listed as a soundtrack? It did have a full fledged motion picture that accompanied it.



That film had a unique distribution through Cineplex Odeon. I believe rights were always Prince's, which is why it was difficult to find rereleases until the 2012 Aussie release. Or was it Canadian. I'm positive somebody here understands more of the details.
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Reply #128 posted 06/28/18 10:15am

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What's the purpose of re releasing albums. I'd prefer they release 35 unreleased albums.
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Reply #129 posted 06/28/18 10:48am

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i agree! 35 previously unreleased prince albums for $350 with some decent artwork would be impossible for any more than casual fan to resist .. i think everyone on the org would buy that today and gladly enjoy listening their way through it for a couple years .. next year drop 35 soundboard concerts ... same price ... make the money now while we want to hand over our cash ... milk the main catalog later

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Reply #130 posted 06/28/18 11:01am

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udo said:

djThunderfunk said:

I might buy Lovesexy again if it's tracked, but then, how many here would complain because "that's not how Prince wanted it".

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You do not own a tracked Lovesexy yet? eek


I bought a US pressing of Lovesexy 30 years ago and tracked it myself 20 years ago when I got a CD burner. At the time the only way I was aware of to get a tracked version was the expensive promo. The online database recognizes my tracked version as THE tracked version, so, I must have done a good job.

I have never seen a tracked copy in a store for retail (or less). I don't care enough to order an import, but, if I see it in a store, at a reasonable price, I'll pick it up.

We were HERE, where were you?

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Reply #131 posted 06/28/18 11:04am

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lastdecember said:

It seems that Prince's stuff will be all over the place coming from different labels, also I think Sony will handle physical releases, though there really arent any stores now, and the demand on physical cd's from the era when mainstream forgot Prince, what is the real point UNLESS you are remastering and packaging but that is going to cost $$$, we have to remember that even the more popular 1995- stuff like Emancipation, Musicology, 3121 etc...are still not going to be major sellers by any means even if remasterd and packaged, by study, re-issues sell less than 1% of what the original sold, so as Prince would say "Do the math"

Yet, for some reason, the record companies usually release multiple reissues of albums that didn't sell any more than 1995+ Prince albums. So, "the math" must work out for them.

We were HERE, where were you?

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Reply #132 posted 06/28/18 11:05am

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RODSERLING said:

Sign o the Times Will likely be considéréd as à soundtrack of the movie .

Nope. That will never happen.

We were HERE, where were you?

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Reply #133 posted 06/28/18 11:10am

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

I wonder why SOTT isn't considered or listed as a soundtrack? It did have a full fledged motion picture that accompanied it.


Because the album came out in March, 7 months before the movie (and several before the movie was concieved of or made).

Sign "O" The Times, the album, is NOT a soundtrack to the movie, has never been considered a soundtrack to the movie and will never be considered a soundtrack to the movie.

Is Pink Floyd's The Wall considered a "soundtrack"? No. It's not. wink

We were HERE, where were you?

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Reply #134 posted 06/28/18 11:37am

RODSERLING

djThunderfunk said:



udo said:




djThunderfunk said:


I might buy Lovesexy again if it's tracked, but then, how many here would complain because "that's not how Prince wanted it".



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You do not own a tracked Lovesexy yet? eek





I bought a US pressing of Lovesexy 30 years ago and tracked it myself 20 years ago when I got a CD burner. At the time the only way I was aware of to get a tracked version was the expensive promo. The online database recognizes my tracked version as THE tracked version, so, I must have done a good job.

I have never seen a tracked copy in a store for retail (or less). I don't care enough to order an import, but, if I see it in a store, at a reasonable price, I'll pick it up.



Every copie of the album in Cd is tracked since what...15 years? You Can find it at 7 dollars on amazon
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Reply #135 posted 06/28/18 11:52am

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RODSERLING said:

djThunderfunk said:


I bought a US pressing of Lovesexy 30 years ago and tracked it myself 20 years ago when I got a CD burner. At the time the only way I was aware of to get a tracked version was the expensive promo. The online database recognizes my tracked version as THE tracked version, so, I must have done a good job.

I have never seen a tracked copy in a store for retail (or less). I don't care enough to order an import, but, if I see it in a store, at a reasonable price, I'll pick it up.

Every copie of the album in Cd is tracked since what...15 years? You Can find it at 7 dollars on amazon

I guess you missed the part where I explained that I don't want (or need) it enough to order it and pay shipping charges, only to find out when I get it if it really is tracked.

Every copy for 15 years has been tracked? Cool. I haven't seen many copies of that album in a store in the last 15 years and the ones I did see did not state on the cover that they were tracked. And again, since I made my own, I don't want or need a tracked copy bad enough to buy one and wait till I get home to find out if it's tracked or not.

When I see it, in a store, for retail or less, AND, I know for sure it is tracked, I will buy it. Until then, I have the original CD, I have my tracked CDR and I don't even play those... I play my digital rip.


We were HERE, where were you?

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Reply #136 posted 06/28/18 1:21pm

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If they release them in Blu-ray audio they will take my $$$

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Reply #137 posted 06/28/18 2:34pm

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Who wants those albums. lol

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
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Reply #138 posted 06/28/18 2:36pm

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I have lots of Sony Legacy reissues. If it is "Original Album Classics" all you will get is a card sleeve which is like the album cover shrunk down to five inches tall. Nothing extra added, and sure as hell not remastered.

If they are investing more into it, it will be remastered, with maybe three related tracks (live versions).

I think we are getting our hopes WAY up here.

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Reply #139 posted 06/28/18 2:39pm

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djThunderfunk said:



RODSERLING said:


djThunderfunk said:



I bought a US pressing of Lovesexy 30 years ago and tracked it myself 20 years ago when I got a CD burner. At the time the only way I was aware of to get a tracked version was the expensive promo. The online database recognizes my tracked version as THE tracked version, so, I must have done a good job.

I have never seen a tracked copy in a store for retail (or less). I don't care enough to order an import, but, if I see it in a store, at a reasonable price, I'll pick it up.



Every copie of the album in Cd is tracked since what...15 years? You Can find it at 7 dollars on amazon


I guess you missed the part where I explained that I don't want (or need) it enough to order it and pay shipping charges, only to find out when I get it if it really is tracked.

Every copy for 15 years has been tracked? Cool. I haven't seen many copies of that album in a store in the last 15 years and the ones I did see did not state on the cover that they were tracked. And again, since I made my own, I don't want or need a tracked copy bad enough to buy one and wait till I get home to find out if it's tracked or not.

When I see it, in a store, for retail or less, AND, I know for sure it is tracked, I will buy it. Until then, I have the original CD, I have my tracked CDR and I don't even play those... I play my digital rip.




I haven't seen a decent sized record store in almost as long
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Reply #140 posted 06/28/18 3:04pm

RODSERLING

djThunderfunk said:



RODSERLING said:


djThunderfunk said:



I bought a US pressing of Lovesexy 30 years ago and tracked it myself 20 years ago when I got a CD burner. At the time the only way I was aware of to get a tracked version was the expensive promo. The online database recognizes my tracked version as THE tracked version, so, I must have done a good job.

I have never seen a tracked copy in a store for retail (or less). I don't care enough to order an import, but, if I see it in a store, at a reasonable price, I'll pick it up.



Every copie of the album in Cd is tracked since what...15 years? You Can find it at 7 dollars on amazon


I guess you missed the part where I explained that I don't want (or need) it enough to order it and pay shipping charges, only to find out when I get it if it really is tracked.

Every copy for 15 years has been tracked? Cool. I haven't seen many copies of that album in a store in the last 15 years and the ones I did see did not state on the cover that they were tracked. And again, since I made my own, I don't want or need a tracked copy bad enough to buy one and wait till I get home to find out if it's tracked or not.

When I see it, in a store, for retail or less, AND, I know for sure it is tracked, I will buy it. Until then, I have the original CD, I have my tracked CDR and I don't even play those... I play my digital rip.




You are a very complicated Man living in à strange World. Every Lovesexy cd is now tracked, no need to mention it on the cover.
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Reply #141 posted 06/28/18 3:06pm

luvsexy4all

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I just sold my copy of Rave IN2 the Joy Fantastic on discogs to someone from Sony New York. Make of that what you will.

at least it will be from an original CD...

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Reply #142 posted 06/28/18 3:08pm

luvsexy4all

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Why everybody is so excited, i don't get it? We are talling about re-releases of already released albums. So what? Boring.

if they can get peeps to get nito his albums ...maybe they will want the outtakes...that must be the logic

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Reply #143 posted 06/28/18 4:16pm

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RODSERLING said:

lastdecember said:

It seems that Prince's stuff will be all over the place coming from different labels, also I think Sony will handle physical releases, though there really arent any stores now, and the demand on physical cd's from the era when mainstream forgot Prince, what is the real point UNLESS you are remastering and packaging but that is going to cost $$$, we have to remember that even the more popular 1995- stuff like Emancipation, Musicology, 3121 etc...are still not going to be major sellers by any means even if remasterd and packaged, by study, re-issues sell less than 1% of what the original sold, so as Prince would say "Do the math"



I think the only album that have a (ridiculous) chance to have à physical release through the Sony website (not à chance in stores) are his gold/ Platinum albums : Gold, Rave, Émancipation, Musicology, 3121, Lotus Flower...Côme is still out of print too.
.
Three important things that were not discussed yet concerning this deal:
.
1. What become of the greatest Hits albums? Are they part of the deal? Or were they simply forgotten? They are the only Prince albums that are selling, with Purple Rain of course.
.
2. Sign o the Times Will likely be considéréd as à soundtrack of the movie
.
3. Girl 6, as à soundtrack, Will be owned forever by Warner. And it contains 3 tracks from SOTT...1 track from Exodus...2 tracks from the Hits...
.


Maybe I am missing something obvious, but what is the point of this deal if Sony won't issue physical copies of the mentioned 35 albums? Do you think they will only be added to more streaming platforms and maybe iTunes?
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Reply #144 posted 06/28/18 4:19pm

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Moonbeam said:

RODSERLING said:
I think the only album that have a (ridiculous) chance to have à physical release through the Sony website (not à chance in stores) are his gold/ Platinum albums : Gold, Rave, Émancipation, Musicology, 3121, Lotus Flower...Côme is still out of print too. . Three important things that were not discussed yet concerning this deal: . 1. What become of the greatest Hits albums? Are they part of the deal? Or were they simply forgotten? They are the only Prince albums that are selling, with Purple Rain of course. . 2. Sign o the Times Will likely be considéréd as à soundtrack of the movie . 3. Girl 6, as à soundtrack, Will be owned forever by Warner. And it contains 3 tracks from SOTT...1 track from Exodus...2 tracks from the Hits... .
Maybe I am missing something obvious, but what is the point of this deal if Sony won't issue physical copies of the mentioned 35 albums? Do you think they will only be added to more streaming platforms and maybe iTunes?


why would they pay 30 million just for that? there must be more in it for them. hmmm





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Reply #145 posted 06/28/18 4:29pm

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IstenSzek said:



Moonbeam said:


RODSERLING said:
I think the only album that have a (ridiculous) chance to have à physical release through the Sony website (not à chance in stores) are his gold/ Platinum albums : Gold, Rave, Émancipation, Musicology, 3121, Lotus Flower...Côme is still out of print too. . Three important things that were not discussed yet concerning this deal: . 1. What become of the greatest Hits albums? Are they part of the deal? Or were they simply forgotten? They are the only Prince albums that are selling, with Purple Rain of course. . 2. Sign o the Times Will likely be considéréd as à soundtrack of the movie . 3. Girl 6, as à soundtrack, Will be owned forever by Warner. And it contains 3 tracks from SOTT...1 track from Exodus...2 tracks from the Hits... .

Maybe I am missing something obvious, but what is the point of this deal if Sony won't issue physical copies of the mentioned 35 albums? Do you think they will only be added to more streaming platforms and maybe iTunes?


why would they pay 30 million just for that? there must be more in it for them. hmmm







I guess we don't know the amount of the deal yet, but I am wondering the same.
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Reply #146 posted 06/28/18 4:41pm

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RODSERLING said:

djThunderfunk said:

I guess you missed the part where I explained that I don't want (or need) it enough to order it and pay shipping charges, only to find out when I get it if it really is tracked.

Every copy for 15 years has been tracked? Cool. I haven't seen many copies of that album in a store in the last 15 years and the ones I did see did not state on the cover that they were tracked. And again, since I made my own, I don't want or need a tracked copy bad enough to buy one and wait till I get home to find out if it's tracked or not.

When I see it, in a store, for retail or less, AND, I know for sure it is tracked, I will buy it. Until then, I have the original CD, I have my tracked CDR and I don't even play those... I play my digital rip.


You are a very complicated Man living in à strange World. Every Lovesexy cd is now tracked, no need to mention it on the cover.

That's cause you live in Europe...

Lovesexy has ORIGINALLY was never tracked in the U.S.

A small number of copies eventually were tracked, but when I say small it means it was not a mass production, as Prince intended the album to be one sequence as released on CD.

[Edited 6/28/18 16:47pm]

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Reply #147 posted 06/28/18 6:38pm

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I hope Sony gets it. The only way their getting my $ is if their remastered w/ unreleased/live tracks from same era otherwise bubkas..
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Reply #148 posted 06/28/18 7:05pm

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I'm reading this thread....where does it say that Sony isn't going to release the albums physically as some members stated/speculated?

[Edited 6/28/18 19:06pm]

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Reply #149 posted 06/28/18 8:38pm

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daingermouz2020 said:

What's the purpose of re releasing albums. I'd prefer they release 35 unreleased albums.

Exactly! I'll be damned if I'm buying music again, that I bought a few times over already. hmph!

"Something...do not compute." disbelief

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