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Thread started 05/30/18 6:09pm

macaylasdad

once the masters are "digitized" ....will they be returned to PP??

First, I can't imagine how long it will take to digitize all that music or how long it takes... But once it's done, will those tapes be returned to PP? Or will they stay with Iron Mountain? If they're not what becomes of the vault, I think it would be cool to see on a tour of PP

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Reply #1 posted 05/30/18 6:18pm

Strive

No.

“After reviewing the storage conditions at Paisley Park and out of concern regarding the consequences of a fire or other loss at the facility, Comerica determined that it was necessary to transfer the audio and visual content to a secure location where all of the original content could be securely stored and digitized as a safeguard against the destruction or loss of any original content,” the company said.
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Reply #2 posted 05/31/18 10:09am

steakfinger

One would hope not.

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Reply #3 posted 05/31/18 11:04am

IstenSzek

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for the feel of the tour they could make replica boxes to put on the shelves.

shouldn't be too hard to just photograph all the original labels and print them
out to put them on new, empty boxes, just so that you get a feel of the vault
when you're on the tour. instead of eyeing all those empty shelves.


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Reply #4 posted 05/31/18 12:48pm

coldasice

😂
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Reply #5 posted 05/31/18 3:56pm

Seahorsie

It would be so wonderful to get to be inside the vault. It is in the basement though, so I would imagine you would have to use the stairs, as the elevator (I think) was walled off. From what I can tell from old tapings, you entered it through a room full of his awards, photos, and gold & platinum records, etc. Who know is all that is still there... shrug

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Reply #6 posted 05/31/18 4:07pm

luvsexy4all

isnt it being digitized for potential releases? so it will stay there probably

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Reply #7 posted 06/01/18 2:19am

BartVanHemelen

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macaylasdad said:

First, I can't imagine how long it will take to digitize all that music or how long it takes... But once it's done, will those tapes be returned to PP? Or will they stay with Iron Mountain? If they're not what becomes of the vault, I think it would be cool to see on a tour of PP

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Digitizing is only part of what they're doing. Conservation is the main goal.

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Reply #8 posted 06/02/18 8:30am

savagedreams

BartVanHemelen said:

macaylasdad said:

First, I can't imagine how long it will take to digitize all that music or how long it takes... But once it's done, will those tapes be returned to PP? Or will they stay with Iron Mountain? If they're not what becomes of the vault, I think it would be cool to see on a tour of PP

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Digitizing is only part of what they're doing. Conservation is the main goal.

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exactly. just like the recent project to save Zappa's vault. if the tapes got returned to paisley they would just continue to deteriorate. even after being preserved in other formats, it would still be sad to me for them just to be left to rot.

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Reply #9 posted 06/02/18 9:18am

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BartVanHemelen said:

macaylasdad said:

First, I can't imagine how long it will take to digitize all that music or how long it takes... But once it's done, will those tapes be returned to PP? Or will they stay with Iron Mountain? If they're not what becomes of the vault, I think it would be cool to see on a tour of PP

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Digitizing is only part of what they're doing. Conservation is the main goal.

EXACT & the Material never will be back 2 PP !

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Reply #10 posted 06/04/18 12:28pm

Se7en

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As an earlier post said, it would be cool to photograph and create empty-box replicas of what was in there (sans the clutter).

I can't imagine it would cost that much, or be that hard to do.

Hell, you could even just have empty boxes in there with no labels, and the "gag" would be acheived. Just don't let the public walk through - only peer in from outside the vault.

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Reply #11 posted 06/04/18 2:28pm

laytonian

Se7en said:

As an earlier post said, it would be cool to photograph and create empty-box replicas of what was in there (sans the clutter).
I can't imagine it would cost that much, or be that hard to do.
Hell, you could even just have empty boxes in there with no labels, and the "gag" would be acheived. Just don't let the public walk through - only peer in from outside the vault.

There will NEVER be tours of the vault (whether fake or real).

Why?
Because there's no easy way for the public to get there.


You either have to take the elevator (nope nope nope), walk all the way around the building and come back in the basement through the parking garage underneath the soundstage -- OR maybe there's a set of scary metal steps to traverse.

People are already starting petitions asking for "disability aides" to get free tours of PP; can you imagine the ADA complaints?

Keep the vault mysterious; otherwise, you're trying to take money from people based on "look at these fake boxes and crates we threw in here".

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Reply #12 posted 06/04/18 4:59pm

luvsexy4all

it could turn into that momentous scene from "Mother!"

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Reply #13 posted 06/04/18 5:16pm

PurplePartyFix

Excuse my ignorance...

Once they are digitized, what is the purpose of preserving or conserving? I would assume that once they are digitized that they could easily be backed-up and there would be no need for the original media. Is this just for sentimental reasons, or is there another importance to the original media once it has been digitized?

Thanks for the insight!

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Reply #14 posted 06/05/18 2:19am

BartVanHemelen

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PurplePartyFix said:

Excuse my ignorance...

Once they are digitized, what is the purpose of preserving or conserving? I would assume that once they are digitized that they could easily be backed-up and there would be no need for the original media. Is this just for sentimental reasons, or is there another importance to the original media once it has been digitized?

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Have you never read anything about archiving movies and recordings, etc.? Or even looked at your own experiences? Never had unreadable CDRs? Defunkt hard drives? Outdated hardware (e.g. Jaz drives,...)?

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Reply #15 posted 06/05/18 2:49am

PurplePartyFix

Maybe I don't undersatnd what is being preserved. I have taken old cassette tapes and digitized them. Now they exist as flac files on my hard drive and I have multiple back-ups of the flac file - like I do with all of my files. But the cassetttes were thrown in the trash - I didn't preseve the cassettes.

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Reply #16 posted 06/05/18 3:01am

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PurplePartyFix said:

Excuse my ignorance...

Once they are digitized, what is the purpose of preserving or conserving? I would assume that once they are digitized that they could easily be backed-up and there would be no need for the original media. Is this just for sentimental reasons, or is there another importance to the original media once it has been digitized?

Thanks for the insight!

Imagine it in terms of the movie industry. A huge amount of films were digitised for release on DVD and a lot of people probably thought "oh we don't need to keep all of these 32mm prints any more now we have the digital version". And then all of a sudden Blu-Ray comes along. Then 4k. And all of these new formats require new transfers to achieve the best possible quality.

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Reply #17 posted 06/05/18 3:56am

PurplePartyFix

Got it. That makes sense. Thank you.

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Reply #18 posted 06/05/18 6:19am

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No record executives want to keep constantly coming back to Minnesnowta during a blizzard that lasts for 5 months straight lol
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