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Date printed: Tue 17th Jul 2018 4:22pm PDT
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Upcoming Prince album (Non-WB Material, TIDAL, 2019) Tidal, Prince Estate agree to release new album in 2019
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/tidal-prince-estate-agree-to-drop-unreleased-album-w520211 "Our only goal is to share Prince's music with his fans as he wanted," Jay-Z says of 2019 album
Tidal and the Prince estate announced Friday that, after a lengthy legal battle, the streaming service will debut a new and unreleased Prince album. Due out in 2019, the album will feature a collection of previously unreleased music from Prince's legendary Vault. Tidal will stream the album exclusively for 14 days as well as make the LP available for download a week after its debut. After that period, the Prince estate will handle the global physical release of the collection. |
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Also reported by Rolling Stone. Release date: 2019 Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/ |
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Fingers crossed for newer non warners stuff - maybe phase three? The word ‘compiling’ is a little worrying - sounding as if there isn’t something that was kinda ready to go. Really hope for Black is the new black but isn’t that rumoured to be with bluenote. But this could be good news. New stuff - which I would prefer from tidal and historic old stuff from Warner’s. They should fall out and try to outdo the others release. 2019 tho. That’s a bit of a wait! Comin str8 outta Preston... |
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"It’s noted in the release that the Prince estate’s partnership with Tidal “'does not involve any of Prince’s music catalogue that is subject to prior agreements with Warner Brothers Records.'” [Edited 5/11/18 11:26am] Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/ |
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so now if the siblings could release something ..we get 3 cds .. |
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Good. Hopefully this finally resolves speculation here about any wrongdoing on Tidal's part. Far from having to remove music or be penalised, Tidal are receiving an additional album of unreleased music. |
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So we know: - This is vault material from the post Warner era. - The estate and Jay-Z are working on song selection for the album. - 2019 release date. - Stream exclusive to Tidal for 14 days. - Available for digital purchase after 7 days. - The estate is going to handle the physical release globally. - The legal matters between the Estate and Tidal have been settled. [Edited 5/11/18 11:40am] no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow |
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I Hope this is separate from the Sept 28th release. Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them. |
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no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow |
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Makes me sad to know so many hands have hold of his work. If anything is released I would prefer it to be compiled considerately by an individual or individuals of expert opinion and great knowledge surrounding his work. Releases which are sympathetic to eras and work he was producing during that time. Jay z choosing songs to put on an album? Man. His legacy deserves more. You'll never know a girl called Nikki and you'll never find Erotic City |
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Strive said:
So we know: - This is vault material from the post Warner era. - The estate and Jay-Z are working on song selection for the album. - 2019 release date. - Stream exclusive to Tidal for 14 days. - Available for digital purchase after 7 days. - The estate is going to handle the physical release globally. - The legal matters between the Estate and Tidal have been settled. [Edited 5/11/18 11:40am] So how does the settling of Tidals steaming rights on a limited number of P’s albums for a limited number of years end up with Jay Z diving into the vaults and being involved with a new album release? Doesn’t make sense to me |
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So after 7 days it will be available for download on Tidal and after 14 days available on other streaming services? Paisley Park is in your heart
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That's my question, also -- but I'm sure it is. . But the bad news is this: The judge approved the short-term Tidal deal over the objections of SNJ who claimed that this was not a good enough deal. SNJ had been given the opportunity to come up with a higher bidder, but could not/did not. . Obviously, the infighting has harmed the estate's future. Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me. |
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purplemist7777 said: Strive said:
So we know: - This is vault material from the post Warner era. - The estate and Jay-Z are working on song selection for the album. - 2019 release date. - Stream exclusive to Tidal for 14 days. - Available for digital purchase after 7 days. - The estate is going to handle the physical release globally. - The legal matters between the Estate and Tidal have been settled. [Edited 5/11/18 11:40am] So how does the settling of Tidals steaming rights on a limited number of P’s albums for a limited number of years end up with Jay Z diving into the vaults and being involved with a new album release? Doesn’t make sense to me Because Tidal were owed another album as per Prince's original deal and were not guilty of any wrongdoing. |
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. This is a short-term, one-album deal only. Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me. |
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PRNelson said: Makes me sad to know so many hands have hold of his work. If anything is released I would prefer it to be compiled considerately by an individual or individuals of expert opinion and great knowledge surrounding his work. Releases which are sympathetic to eras and work he was producing during that time. Jay z choosing songs to put on an album? Man. His legacy deserves more. Prince had an existing deal with Tidal and was still providing exclusive music to the service just days before his death. The Estate are now merely choosing to honour that deal. |
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what they mean is a week before it is on tidal it will leak and we will all have it anyway Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them. |
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A few more details here than answer many of the questions above: http://variety.com/2018/biz/news/another-new-prince-album-coming-in-2019-via-tidal-1202807371/ |
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OperatingThetan said: PRNelson said: Makes me sad to know so many hands have hold of his work. If anything is released I would prefer it to be compiled considerately by an individual or individuals of expert opinion and great knowledge surrounding his work. Releases which are sympathetic to eras and work he was producing during that time. Jay z choosing songs to put on an album? Man. His legacy deserves more. Prince had an existing deal with Tidal and was still providing exclusive music to the service just days before his death. The Estate are now merely choosing to honour that deal. I see. So they provide a collection of music predetermined before his passing? You'll never know a girl called Nikki and you'll never find Erotic City |
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OperatingThetan said: PRNelson said: Makes me sad to know so many hands have hold of his work. If anything is released I would prefer it to be compiled considerately by an individual or individuals of expert opinion and great knowledge surrounding his work. Releases which are sympathetic to eras and work he was producing during that time. Jay z choosing songs to put on an album? Man. His legacy deserves more. Prince had an existing deal with Tidal and was still providing exclusive music to the service just days before his death. The Estate are now merely choosing to honour that deal. I see. So they provide a collection of music predetermined before his passing? You'll never know a girl called Nikki and you'll never find Erotic City |
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With the estate handing a HITNRUN style store for physical copies. Unless they partner up with someone, I don't think it will be getting a release in traditional stores. no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow |
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I'm glad it will be post-1996 material  We are living in Orwell's 1984 |
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that was messing up is this better?
Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them. |
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they are saying a Global physical release... Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them. |
PRNelson said: Makes me sad to know so many hands have hold of his work. If anything is released I would prefer it to be compiled considerately by an individual or individuals of expert opinion and great knowledge surrounding his work. Releases which are sympathetic to eras and work he was producing during that time. Jay z choosing songs to put on an album? Man. His legacy deserves more. I disagree. Prince trusted JayZ, and I do, too. FUCK DONALD TRUMP |
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OperatingThetan said: PRNelson said: Makes me sad to know so many hands have hold of his work. If anything is released I would prefer it to be compiled considerately by an individual or individuals of expert opinion and great knowledge surrounding his work. Releases which are sympathetic to eras and work he was producing during that time. Jay z choosing songs to put on an album? Man. His legacy deserves more. Prince had an existing deal with Tidal and was still providing exclusive music to the service just days before his death. The Estate are now merely choosing to honour that deal. I know but why would he have access to the vault and pick the songs? He is a rapper..what does he really know about P music and want the fans want? |
might be that they are going to go through the very latest material he was recording and true love lives on lollipops and crisps |
. I don't trust any of these people. "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) |
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Where does that untalented overrated cheating piece of crap thinks he gets even get to be close to P's stuff?
that's not even close to a sentence but you catch my drift |
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where did they get thse songs? from Prince bfore he died ? |
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TheFman said: Where does that untalented overrated cheating piece of crap thinks he gets even get to be close to P's stuff?
that's not even close to a sentence but you catch my drift Probably from the contract that bears his and P's signatures... |
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"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) |
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mikeyaddict said: Fingers crossed for newer non warners stuff - maybe phase three? The word ‘compiling’ is a little worrying - sounding as if there isn’t something that was kinda ready to go. Really hope for Black is the new black but isn’t that rumoured to be with bluenote. But this could be good news. New stuff - which I would prefer from tidal and historic old stuff from Warner’s. They should fall out and try to outdo the others release. 2019 tho. That’s a bit of a wait! Black is the New Black is a bunch of instrumental fusion isn’t it? I’d much rather have almost anything else. |
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Looking forward to this collection. Here's hoping Jay-Z & Tidal pick some great material. Fingers crossed. |
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ALRIGHT!
MORE PRINCE!
Even so...we could take even more Prince! Get it Prince Estate?
Monthly or weekly DAMNIT!
Hurry up and get the music and video to us! We haven't heard any arrangements about the release of more Prince video, besides the 'Nothing Compares...' video.
Now, we want more information on the video front and we'll be happy...or happier, at least. Not truly happy, since P is gone but you get the idea... |
Oh, FFS. I'm nowhere near a JAY-Z stan, but let's look at it pragmatically (and leave the "bloated streaming statistics" allegations out of this particular situation):
1) Prince had an exclusive streaming deal with Tidal before his passing, barring WB-era stuff. 2) upon Prince's death (whether it was right or wrong), Tidal released almost all of '96- (then) present-day released material. Tidal didn't get that audio out of thin air, especially the NPGMC stuff in the quality that was streamed. Prince provided it to them somehow. The fact that Tidal may or may not have released it without consent is of no consequence because we don't know what the actual contract or agreement stated. It very well could have been a handshake deal where P told Jay that he very well could have done whatever he wanted with the music in terms of streaming at a certain time. I have my suspicions that the plan was to release the discography on Tidal June 7, 2016 as a birthday surprise - even though he didn't celebrate, but actually "celebrated" at Paisley from time to time. 3) There were also deals in place to release P&M and BITNB (most likely on Tidal initially), so obviously P trusted Jay and Tidal.
The only ones that complained about the deal with Tidal were the ones that are currently fighting among themselves, while putting out their own ego-driven material (as much as I may have somewhat enjoyed John L's album, let's keep it real: no one would care about a Joseph Jackson album - even if it were produced by Tito) and hiring other singers to perform their brother's music.
[Edited 5/11/18 13:24pm] [Edited 5/11/18 13:25pm] |
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Did anyone see the 5/9/18 Forbes article claiming Tidal inflated Beyoncé and Yeszy streaming numbers? And the estate just settle with him. Sad |
If you think TIDAL is the only streaming company allegedly doing that, you're fooling yourself. Sales generally don't mean anything anymore - clicks and streams do. |
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As long as it doesn't contain new "remixes" "featuring" anyone, I'm IN! if it was just a dream, call me a dreamer 2 |
Guest stars!: Migos. Wakka Flockka. Fetty Wap. Cadi B! And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?! |
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This sounds like great news to me 'Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter' Martin Luther King, Jr. |
I thinik it will be a good album. |
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Yes! This makes me happy! 2019 seems so far away though!  |
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This is great news. If this and the WB album go ahead as planned, then this could be the beginning of a constant stream of vault material. |
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Me too! Even better if we are served an album of unreleased Warner Brothers material in September as an appetizer. |
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leecaldon said: This is great news. If this and the WB album go ahead as planned, then this could be the beginning of a constant stream of vault material. Exactly. The more support Tidal receives for this the more likely we will see further post-Warners vault material released on the service. Tidal were Prince's only choice as a streaming platform during his lifetime after all. |
PRNelson said: Makes me sad to know so many hands have hold of his work. If anything is released I would prefer it to be compiled considerately by an individual or individuals of expert opinion and great knowledge surrounding his work. Releases which are sympathetic to eras and work he was producing during that time.
Jay z choosing songs to put on an album? Man. His legacy deserves more. Hmmm.. since Prince chose a partnership with JayZ over any of the major streaming services seems Tidal would be the better he deserves. Why the hate for JayZ? [Edited 5/11/18 17:57pm] 1 over Jordan...the greatest since |
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cloveringold85 said:
. I don't trust any of these people. With ya ...follow the $$ |
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TheFman said: Where does that untalented overrated cheating piece of crap thinks he gets even get to be close to P's stuff?
that's not even close to a sentence but you catch my drift YES to this^^^^^ |
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Of course I'm always excited to get new Prince music. The only thing I find worrisome, and slightly nauseating, is that Jay Z is involved in compiling the tracklist. I don't think he should have access to the vault. "That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide." |
Welcome 2the dawn. |
Is this Jay's attempt at deflecting attention from yesterday's Tidal controversy? Real convenient timing, is all I'm saying... |
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mbdtyler said: Is this Jay's attempt at deflecting attention from yesterday's Tidal controversy? Real convenient timing, is all I'm saying... It was approved by the court on the 9th no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow |
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co sign.... But nt just becasue Prince Trusted him
Becasue I have seen JAYZ Grow and mature as a man and a Person.. Im proud of the way he literlally grew UP and OUT of the Gutters...
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Here is a related thread posted recently entitled "Video: VAN JONES and JAY Z speak about their relationship with PRINCE & Tidal": http://prince.org/msg/7/452423 |
Tidal only gets to stream this album for 14 days. I can wait. It resolves both the Estate and Federal lawsuits. Settlements = compromise. |
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JAY Z involved compiling the track list from the vault is only communication...the final word is up to Troy Carter with the help of the main archivist ...i even suspect that the unreleased album had have been compiled when Prince was yet alive...it's more than my 2 cents! [Edited 5/11/18 22:26pm] |
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And, btw, another example that BartVanHemelen's statement about "nobody has interest in recent Prince's songs" is a hoax. |
You would think some people here on the org will never be happy with any future releases unless Prince himself comes back from the dead to oversee its release. I hardly think JayZ is able to walk down the vault isles with a shopping trolly and drop anything he wants into it. Prince had a plan with the HNR series and from what it looks like is they are compilations of orphaned songs working backwards in time. HNR3 was probably set for outtakes from mid 10's upto 2010 or so. |
Just a couple of days ago, I wondered if Tidal was still a thing. I guess it is. |
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“Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?” - Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche |
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This is my main FEAR....2 !
PS>Neversin...are u aware if in the vaults there are real completed / sequenced Prince albums always unreleased?
thanx 4 ur possible reply?
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“Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?” - Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche |
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Thanx so much 4 ur clarifications Neversin...i appreciate ....i think that u are right about these fears & Now Prince is gone....Windows & Doors of the incompetence are fully open ...People Involved exept maybe 4 Michael Howe (but the final word is not up 2 him) are far away to be credible...Business 1st ...RIGHT ? |
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TrcikyChristopher said:
Oh, FFS. I'm nowhere near a JAY-Z stan, but let's look at it pragmatically (and leave the "bloated streaming statistics" allegations out of this particular situation):
1) Prince had an exclusive streaming deal with Tidal before his passing, barring WB-era stuff. 2) upon Prince's death (whether it was right or wrong), Tidal released almost all of '96- (then) present-day released material. Tidal didn't get that audio out of thin air, especially the NPGMC stuff in the quality that was streamed. Prince provided it to them somehow. The fact that Tidal may or may not have released it without consent is of no consequence because we don't know what the actual contract or agreement stated. It very well could have been a handshake deal where P told Jay that he very well could have done whatever he wanted with the music in terms of streaming at a certain time. I have my suspicions that the plan was to release the discography on Tidal June 7, 2016 as a birthday surprise - even though he didn't celebrate, but actually "celebrated" at Paisley from time to time. 3) There were also deals in place to release P&M and BITNB (most likely on Tidal initially), so obviously P trusted Jay and Tidal.
The only ones that complained about the deal with Tidal were the ones that are currently fighting among themselves, while putting out their own ego-driven material (as much as I may have somewhat enjoyed John L's album, let's keep it real: no one would care about a Joseph Jackson album - even if it were produced by Tito) and hiring other singers to perform their brother's music.
[Edited 5/11/18 13:24pm] [Edited 5/11/18 13:25pm] [b]Well Said! I subscribed to Tidal because of Prince, but Prince is not why I stayed. I wish there was a section exclusively in Tidal for the Vault material. From this, Spotify, Apple and hard copy record producing labels could cherry pick the most profitable stuff. Tidal is for people who love music and want higher quality sound... the type of enthusiasts Prince inspired. |
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I think I worry more about whether or not Tidal will be around in 2019 to release anything at all. Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/ |
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It's highly likely Jay-Z is choosing from a batch of later tracks (likely continuations of Prince's HitnRun series)presented to him by the Estate. I hardly think Jay-Z is wandering around in the vault picking whatever he likes. Please. And there is no suggestion the songs will be remixed. In fact, Jay-Z's comment indicates the opposite if you actually bother to READ the article before commenting (And crying. Or both.). Some of you are too blinded with prejudice to see the potential here and on the only streaming platform Prince approved in his lifetime. I guess you're all good with Spotify though? And then you want to talk about respecting Prince's wishes and legacy? BS. This is all about your whims and preferences. It has no connection to any statements or ethics Prince espoused at all. |
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I'm a little disappointed this thread is on page three already and we don't have a plethora of over excited and deluded, speculative tracklistings! |
05: FRIDAKAHLO and true love lives on lollipops and crisps |
other possible inclusions and true love lives on lollipops and crisps |
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If it's not Hit & Run Phase 3, I vote for Welcome 2 America. If it's newly compiled, I vote to add the song Welcome 2 America. Just sayin'... I want that song. [Edited 5/12/18 7:19am] We were HERE, where were you?
4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all! |
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Yeah, they're not exactly overflooding the market... I may disagree with everything you say, but I will defend your right to say it. |
"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013 |
I agree that it doesnt exonerate Tidal. The problem for the Estate was Phaedra went over to the side of Tidal mostly because she needed to cover up her shady dealings and forged documents. |
Even if this did happen there are folks here on the Org. that would still b*tch and complain about what songs were on the tracklist.
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I'd be interested to hear Phase 3 or whatever it will be if they don't mess around with the songs. They should have plenty of completed songs to pick from. U been bamboozled, hoodwinked, took. |
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I don't get why everybody's so down on this news. . Saying that Jay-Z is involved in the song selection is probably nothing more than a publicity stunt. That or the estate is planning on giving him a usb stick full of songs without a home and say "here pick your favorites & sequence them" ... which isn't much different than what Prince use to do. Everybody loved HITNRUN Part 2 but it was a mishmash of misfit songs. . Fans have to let go of this idea that we should only get Prince compiled projects. It's cool that we're getting late era material so soon. no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow |
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Strive said: I don't get why everybody's so down on this news. . Saying that Jay-Z is involved in the song selection is probably nothing more than a publicity stunt. That or the estate is planning on giving him a usb stick full of songs without a home and say "here pick your favorites & sequence them" ... which isn't much different than what Prince use to do. Everybody loved HITNRUN Part 2 but it was a mishmash of misfit songs. . Fans have to let go of this idea that we should only get Prince compiled projects. It's cool that we're getting late era material so soon. Jay_Z has got absolutely nothing to do with Prince. Of course from now on, someone else is going to compile the albums, but it should be someone who knows Prince's work and, maybe, worked with him. For the later years that would be... Josh Welton? Yes, even he would be better! (As long as he leaves the tracks alone.) I may disagree with everything you say, but I will defend your right to say it. |
I hope that they also sell it in stores on CD format. I like to have the art work, CD package. I'm ol' school like that. Tangible objects! |
Who gives a stuff what that cretin thinks. The Spooky Electric. |
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DBW said: I hope that they also sell it in stores on CD format. I like to have the art work, CD package. I'm ol' school like that. Tangible objects! The report does talk about a physical release. I may disagree with everything you say, but I will defend your right to say it. |
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A guy who lives in Minneapolis has just posted this on his FB page ? "1 june 2018.....Piano and microphone stay tune;)" Supposed to be released by WBR https://www.facebook.com/FUNKARTIST-41462400828/ |
Wolves in sheep clothing. "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) |
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Good Dick and a Job is coming people. The earthquake is coming to an earhole near u. "My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him." |
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and true love lives on lollipops and crisps |
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IstenSzek said:
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Or the Tony M remix album. "My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him." |
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I will wait for the download and the vinyl. Edmonton, AB - 
Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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I'm actually more excited about this album since chances are that I've already heard most of what will be on the WB album. I think this could very well be HnR3  We are living in Orwell's 1984 |
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IstenSzek said:
05: FRIDAKAHLO I’ve just tweeted this to Jay. Let’s hope he don’t replace Shelby’s rap on Same Page Different Book with his own |
IF it exists and true love lives on lollipops and crisps |
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leadline said:
The Estate attempted to prosecute Tidal for wrongdoing and failed in court. Far from Tidal being fined or having to remove any Prince music, they're receiving an exclusive new album of material. Troy himself is on record as stating that he is pleased the Estate is choosing to 'honour' Prince's existing arrangement with Tidal. Most of the Estate's previous objections to the Tidal deal could be disproven by one look at Prince's twitter account and all the exclusive music he continued to provide Tidal up until the week of his death. But the Estate is being rinsed by lawyers. |
Money-hungry, in-fighting, clueless siblings and their lawyers willing to do their bidding... |
I hope they do a decent job... The world is done...
But you don't have to be. Darkness gathers around the light... Hold on, hold on... There is a Light--don't let it go out! |
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IstenSzek said:
IF it exists I wasn’t serious. And I know you were taking the piss being fake tracklist master 🤣😂 |
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He sounds pretty sure of himself. Seems really unlikely though. |
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The guy is RIGHT...we don't have the details yet but is about PIAN0 & MICROPHONE ..more news soon ! |
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I'll believe that when I see it. I may disagree with everything you say, but I will defend your right to say it. |
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but its been stated its unreleased songs..not live...so is this an additional release? |
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Piano & Microphone release with other things will B announced on the 1st of June by WBR....99% sure at this stage confirmed 2 me few minutes ago by a reporter in musical industry ...i have his OK 2 share this with u....no more details at this stage!! |
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Alright... That's not so far away.. I may disagree with everything you say, but I will defend your right to say it. |
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is this the 9/28 release???? |
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its unfortunate ...."we" dont have a say....maybe militant can plead his case to the right people |
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It seems there will B differents things announced ! |
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luvsexy4all said:
its unfortunate ...."we" dont have a say....maybe militant can plead his case to the right people I don't think any of us are going to argue a court appointed settlement. There's no suggestion any songs will be remixed. Jay-Z's statement indicates the direct opposite if you bother to read the full press release. Besides, Prince dealt directly with Jay-Z before as part of his original agreement with Tidal and praised him publically. I hardly think Jay-Z is going to be wandering the vault, cherry-picking whatever he fancies. It's much more likely he'll merely select from a batch of later material presented to him by the Estate. Whatever, Prince had a positive relationship with Jay-Z, and Tidal was the only streaming service he approved in his lifetime, so Jay-Z seems to be the least offensive individual to help select the compilation. How do you think Prince felt about the Warners executives who chose the unreleased material for the 'Purple Rain' remaster? How many of you were whining then? Do you think Troy is more approved by Prince to select vault material? Prince had no relationship with him and Troy worked for Spotify - a company Prince could not have been more publically critical of. Yet hardly anyone here seems to have a similar issue with Troy.The real issue is simply a prejudice and contention towards Jay-Z that Prince himself did not share. * [Edited 5/13/18 11:03am] [Edited 5/13/18 11:04am] [Edited 5/13/18 11:05am] |
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Amazing!! Thanks for the info. |
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TITLES, anyone?
What should the estate call the next two releases?
Get Princely with it...let's pick a title and maybe they'll use it!
Mine...The Dawn and The Afterworld... |
I think there are at least two if not more releases.
Troy's statements about a release was well before the Estate came to an agreement with Tidal last week. |
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Looking forward to this. Edmonton, AB -
Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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We'll see, I'm hoping for Hit 'n Run Part 3 just to finish the deal. [Edited 5/14/18 2:33am] |
Some clueless people here do not seem to understand the term "remixed" used by me on this topic, so let me clarify: O(+>NIИ<+)O
“Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?” - Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche |
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So the Clare Fisher strings and the backing vocals by St. Paul were never included in any version by Prince? That's somewhat sad, the fact that they needed to add tracks completely unrelated to the original recording in order to "complete" it. [Edited 5/14/18 4:37am] "Don't need no Reefer. Don't need Cocaine. Purple Music does the same to my brain." |
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It will be interesting to see who has a better marketing department, Tidal or Warners? PR reissue was one of the cheapest, sloppiest marketing ventures of a major release. |
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What do you consider the better outtakes? The wooh is on the one! |
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Prince considered it to be his sound... even finger cymbals and rain stick up to 11.
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Tens of thousands, at the very least. |
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Bart, Gold Experience was great, right? "My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him." |
Hey B., you haven't really left your baby box to grow up, have you? Same gripes for more than 15 years and the crying goes on... |
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A never promoted "volume 2" of old songs without radio and video rotation did not sell well? VERY STRANGE |
Why is this dude still atround?!?!? His miserable nature and agressive postings have long been stale, old, and unwelcomed. Leave already. My goodness... [Edited 5/15/18 15:14pm] |
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ThirdStrike said:
Why is this dude still atround?!?!? His miserable nature and agressive postings have long been stale, old, and unwelcomed. Leave already. My goodness... [Edited 5/15/18 15:14pm] Bart was highly critical of Prince in his posts when I first joined prince.org in 1998. Despite apparently not enjoying a single Prince album or song in over 20 years he's still here... |
I have no idea why he's even tolerated in here. He's a troll with some data. That's it. And watch, there'll be those who defenbd him. "He brings valuable knowledge" they'll say. But for fuck's sake, he's rude, obnoxious, and has absoluetely no tact. He needs to be taught a lesson for sure... |
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Bart could be a valuable part of the org, but he seems to revel being a fly in the ointment. |
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Please guys, let's not turn this into another anti-Bart thread and have this  I may disagree with everything you say, but I will defend your right to say it. |
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imagine an org world...bart and laura only posts |
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It's easy of you try Above us only ghosts I may disagree with everything you say, but I will defend your right to say it. |
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"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) |
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kinda make your head spin ..in all directions |
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. Imagine the look on Prince's face when reading it. "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) |
Its no new music,but aa all good!  Prouddaddyfunkateer |
littlefrank said: Its no new music,but aa all good! Cocoboys  Prouddaddyfunkateer |
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https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/now-tidal-is-accused-of-failing-to-pay-record-labels-on-time/
"fresh revelations from Dagens Næringsliv suggest that TIDAL is significantly behind with its royalty payments to music industry rights-holders.
In a new report, DN suggests that multiple sources have informed it that TIDAL is “behind with payments directly to the three major international record companies”."
Friends don't let friends clap on 1 and 3.
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I am happy on one hand that we are getting more new music, but on the other, I am a little bit uneasy. Just hope if Jay Z is such a huge P fan like he claims, he will respect and honor P's music and not put a bunch of lame hip hop rappers and remixes on it. Love is God, God is love, girls and boys love God above.
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Me neither. Fingers crossed Jay Z will do the right thing. Love is God, God is love, girls and boys love God above.
RIP Sweet Prince |
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. Oh God, Please No!! Prince would not want that. "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) |
I was thinking that and I am all for new folks getting into P's music. I just don't want the quality to suffer. Yep, at the end of the day though, it is whatever brings in the most money. Love is God, God is love, girls and boys love God above.
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They could do both, I suppose - release 'pure' versions of the vault tracks to us, and then make separate compilations of (what I'd call) necroduets for people who enjoy that sort of thing. |
I doubt they’ll be a TIDAL in 2019 |
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His critique of the music is entirely personal and subjective. His opinions on other matters are debateable. Anyone who stays around for that long after enjoying an artists music likely has a personal grudge or problem. Even Prince's death hasn't softened him or caused him to give even the most begrudging respect. Whatever, I'm looking forward to the Tidal album which is now rumoured to be a Phase 3 album with unreleased 2014-15 material (See recent Twin Cities article). |
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I hope it’s Phase 3. If I Could Get Ur Attention and Free Urself (and even Stare) sound like they belong together. Maybe we’ll get a bit of Pangaea, Rumeta, Frida Kahlo, and whatever else there is of the “redefined” Minneapolis sound. "That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide." |
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FREEURSELF was supposed to be on the same album as RUFF ENUFF. I'm fairly confident Prince recorded its own solo version of RUFF ENUFF leaving the one that was released on Black is the New Black. Fingers crossed for Phase 3. |
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Marco81 said: FREEURSELF was supposed to be on the same album as RUFF ENUFF. I'm fairly confident Prince recorded its own solo version of RUFF ENUFF leaving the one that was released on Black is the New Black. Fingers crossed for Phase 3. Yeah! I'm hopeful for that too. |
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liked he did with the synths as horns i n the 80's |
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djThunderfunk said: If it's not Hit & Run Phase 3, I vote for Welcome 2 America. If it's newly compiled, I vote to add the song Welcome 2 America. Just sayin'... I want that song. [Edited 5/12/18 7:19am] I’m hoping for a continuation of the HNR releases as it’s possible he had a direct hand in picking the material for the next several albums. However W2A is a great choice & would be a completed album. I love the song itself. A long lingering slow funk groove with great deep vocals from the ladies. It was a great opener for a couple of the US shows. Shame he lost interest in the entire project for reasons unknown. |
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This is not a Prince compiled project. The estate and Jay-Z are making the tracklist. That was in the press release. no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow |
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Strive said: This is not a Prince compiled project. The estate and Jay-Z are making the tracklist. That was in the press release. That doesn't mean the Estate and Jay-Z aren't selecting from a batch of 2014-15 tracks intended for further HitnRun phases does it? Prince himself tweeted that 'Free Urself' (a later track already available on Tidal) was intended for a future album release, sequenced alongside (his possibly solo version) of 'Ruff Enuff'. |
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I'd like all previous 'internet age' orphan songs/web only singles to be collected together. Going right back to the stuff like One Song, Glass Cutter, Turn It Loose, etc. Prince: Lost In The Digital Garden
But in this case just the most recently recorded/sequenced songs would be the best option (for now).
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It will be "new" Prince music regardless of what tracks Jay-Z and the Estate choose. |
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that f'ing funk album with turn me loose.... |
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luvsexy4all said:
that f'ing funk album with turn me loose.... There are fan made compilations that have these all together. It’d be good for something like this as a bonus, but a shame to miss out on genuine new material for stuff already ‘available’ so to speak. Comin str8 outta Preston... |
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Ya both still going on and on about some shit that happened in 1998? Download all the shit hop that you can for your kids, neices, nephews, and their friends also. That will prevent them from going out and buying it and will prevent some shit hop sales. Every little bit helps - Andy
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that f'ing funk album with turn me loose.... 
Supposedly it may have also included the ridiculously funky re-recording of "Sexy MF" as well. (Ok, maybe not the C+C Music Factory sample but the rest was crazy). [Edited 6/6/18 7:43am] [Edited 6/6/18 8:59am] |
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My guess, after learning about the WB release, is that this one will be the long-lost classic ‘The Million Dollar Experience’, which contains seven previously unreleased remixes of The Million Dollar Show. If you get the Deluxe edition (priced eponymously) you get a piece of A4 paper with the lyrics of the second verse. It’s just a guess, but I so can see it happening! Someone's in my body, someone's in my body... |
Imagine if TIDAL's release is Piano & A Microphone 2016 -- a direct response to WB's Piano & A Microphone 1983. |
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Se7en said: Imagine if TIDAL's release is Piano & A Microphone 2016 -- a direct response to WB's Piano & A Microphone 1983. The latest rumour from the Violet Reality (who were reliable with the latest release) was that 'Prince and the Band' was one of the songs being considered. |
I would much rather have an album of unreleased post WB material than some hundred year old copy of a bootleg. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. |
Silvertongue7 said: My guess, after learning about the WB release, is that this one will be the long-lost classic ‘The Million Dollar Experience’, which contains seven previously unreleased remixes of The Million Dollar Show. If you get the Deluxe edition (priced eponymously) you get a piece of A4 paper with the lyrics of the second verse. It’s just a guess, but I so can see it happening! I actually wouldn’t mind that. |
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I'd like to see this too, P did hint @ the 'Future' of muisc. AOA touched on that. Peace ... & Stay Funky ...
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Amazing isnt it how Diverse he was even to the very end... This sound , BIG ad Orchestral complete with horns and strings.. and then on the other side what he was doing with Mono Neon... stripped back, Crunchy FUNK...
Constantly challenging us to bend our musical ears...
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I hope it Will be phase 3 too, with à tracklist and cover design more or less wanted by Prince. . Some people here hope some songs to be included- free urself, Ruff enough. Etc. I hope too. Never heard this songs. . But won t you be disappointed if they "only" release songs you already know, with maybe one or two really unreleased? |
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Why do I get the sneaking suspicion that WB said to Tidal "ya'll can have that post 90s crap, we want the 80s gold". FUCK DONALD TRUMP |
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AnnaSantana said: Why do I get the sneaking suspicion that WB said to Tidal "ya'll can have that post 90s crap, we want the 80s gold". WB wouldn't have needed to say anything to Tidal. Prince was already in a working relationship with Tidal with his newer material and WB has no ownership. But you already knew that didn't you? You just wanted to make a shitty comment. Of course, your opinion on Prince's post-Warners work is necessarily subjective. But I do wonder why people who perceive no value in two decades worth of Prince's material are even here. I wonder what the public would be more interested in - the 1983 WB release of Prince noodling on the piano for 30 minutes or some of the best of his post-Warners material? Even I'm surprised to say it might be the later. At the moment, WB has fools gold at best, considering the treasures available. |
I really don't feel that the general public is going to be interested in the 'new' release from 1983 of Prince alone at a piano. I certainly am, but the general public isn't going to be shouting from the rooftops about this release. I'll be surprised if it even sells 50,000 copies. They need to release the new songs and fast because the interest in his music is going to diminish over time if the releases are like the ones we've gotten since his death.
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we really shouldnt complain so much...we got tidal for newer songs...WB for old songs...and EYE for whatever |
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Welcome to "the org", daqueria1998… open your heart, open your mind. |
based unscientifically on my extended friend group they would very much prefer Prince noodling at his piano in 1983. |
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jaawwnn said:
based unscientifically on my extended friend group they would very much prefer Prince noodling at his piano in 1983. To clarify, I'm very interested in Prince noodling on the piano in 1983 myself and think the vocal performance on 'Mary Don't You Weep' is amazing. That being said, I still consider it an odd choice as an opening salvo and even odder from Warner Brothers usually corporate mind-set in terms of marketing. |
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Estate... Next thing you know they'll have QuestLove write the liner notes full of imagined "facts"...
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the regulars here are gonna kill me if this is released since 3/4
