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cra1g0s

Have we given up hope of positive news regarding any new releases?

This may come across as me being a bit of a moaning minnie but can we really expect ANY new releases (re-releases) now, or is Prince 4EVER and the expanded Purple Rain editions it?

I can't confidently say there will be any further physical releases, yes, we may as fans think an expanded SOTT or Parade is warranted, but is there a big enough market? Maybe there is, if I can pickup a deluxe edition re-release of Nirvana's Nevermind for example then I guess there's a case for re-releasing Prince's classic albums that would be interesting and worthwhile purchases for not only his fans but a wider audience.

Releasing his last ever show from the Piano & Mic tour, or a compilation of the best tracks from that tour, maybe on DVD/Blu-Ray too - we can all agree that would be amazing and I think there would be enough interest too to make a release worthwhile. I don't think the passing of time will affect sales either because Prince is up there in the pantheon of great artists and we can count him as standing shoulder to shoulder with the true greats like Hendrix, Lennon etc....but I'm starting to ramble.

I guess my question is, can we have any faith that the 'Prince Estate' (whoever that is) at this point will be able to get new releases out there, or do we need a major label like Warner Bros to step up and get it done?

[Edited 1/10/18 6:32am]

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Reply #1 posted 01/10/18 6:39am

JorisE73

With the upcoming 40th aniversay of 'For You', 30th aniversary of 'LoveSexy', 20th aniversary of 'New Power Soul', 'Crystal Ball' and 'The Truth', (and stretching it a bit) 10th aniversary of 'Indigo Nights' you would think someone would do something or even anything.

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Reply #2 posted 01/10/18 6:51am

DarkKnight1

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I have no real expectation of any forthcoming release. Hope was never a thing.

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Reply #3 posted 01/10/18 7:09am

databank

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cra1g0s said:

This may come across as me being a bit of a moaning minnie but can we really expect ANY new releases (re-releases) now, or is Prince 4EVER and the expanded Purple Rain editions it?

I can't confidently say there will be any further physical releases, yes, we may as fans think an expanded SOTT or Parade is warranted, but is there a big enough market? Maybe there is, if I can pickup a deluxe edition re-release of Nirvana's Nevermind for example then I guess there's a case for re-releasing Prince's classic albums that would be interesting and worthwhile purchases for not only his fans but a wider audience.

Releasing his last ever show from the Piano & Mic tour, or a compilation of the best tracks from that tour, maybe on DVD/Blu-Ray too - we can all agree that would be amazing and I think there would be enough interest too to make a release worthwhile. I don't think the passing of time will affect sales either because Prince is up there in the pantheon of great artists and we can count him as standing shoulder to shoulder with the true greats like Hendrix, Lennon etc....but I'm starting to ramble.

I guess my question is, can we have any faith that the 'Prince Estate' (whoever that is) at this point will be able to get new releases out there, or do we need a major label like Warner Bros to step up and get it done?

[Edited 1/10/18 6:32am]

16 new albums will be released in the next few months, but we all agreed that it was better to hide this fact from you, and you alone. So we made sure there would be no announcement anywhere online, and we're discussing it on a hidden board that you will never be given access to. That's the reason why there was no news on the Org or anywhere else about new releases but don't worry, your record store will soon be flooded by Prince CD's.

.

As for the lack of market, you are correct. There is a market for the recent double CD reissue of Apollonia's 1988 album, as well as Martika's Kitchen or albums by André Cymone or Wendy & Lisa that had been out of print for 30 years. But those records were massive hits that sold by the millions. There is also a market for major superstars such as John Zorn or Buckethead to release a new album on CD every month or so, since every teenager will buy anything they release. But while all the aforementioned artists have strong audiences and massive media support, Prince is too forgotten an artist to see any album ever rereleased. Hell, when he died in 2016, there was hardly any article or report in the news, and you'll notice that there hasn't been a single book about him published ever since he died.

.

I'm glad you created this thread, it was much needed.

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Reply #4 posted 01/10/18 7:34am

cra1g0s

databank said:

cra1g0s said:

This may come across as me being a bit of a moaning minnie but can we really expect ANY new releases (re-releases) now, or is Prince 4EVER and the expanded Purple Rain editions it?

I can't confidently say there will be any further physical releases, yes, we may as fans think an expanded SOTT or Parade is warranted, but is there a big enough market? Maybe there is, if I can pickup a deluxe edition re-release of Nirvana's Nevermind for example then I guess there's a case for re-releasing Prince's classic albums that would be interesting and worthwhile purchases for not only his fans but a wider audience.

Releasing his last ever show from the Piano & Mic tour, or a compilation of the best tracks from that tour, maybe on DVD/Blu-Ray too - we can all agree that would be amazing and I think there would be enough interest too to make a release worthwhile. I don't think the passing of time will affect sales either because Prince is up there in the pantheon of great artists and we can count him as standing shoulder to shoulder with the true greats like Hendrix, Lennon etc....but I'm starting to ramble.

I guess my question is, can we have any faith that the 'Prince Estate' (whoever that is) at this point will be able to get new releases out there, or do we need a major label like Warner Bros to step up and get it done?

[Edited 1/10/18 6:32am]

16 new albums will be released in the next few months, but we all agreed that it was better to hide this fact from you, and you alone. So we made sure there would be no announcement anywhere online, and we're discussing it on a hidden board that you will never be given access to. That's the reason why there was no news on the Org or anywhere else about new releases but don't worry, your record store will soon be flooded by Prince CD's.

.

As for the lack of market, you are correct. There is a market for the recent double CD reissue of Apollonia's 1988 album, as well as Martika's Kitchen or albums by André Cymone or Wendy & Lisa that had been out of print for 30 years. But those records were massive hits that sold by the millions. There is also a market for major superstars such as John Zorn or Buckethead to release a new album on CD every month or so, since every teenager will buy anything they release. But while all the aforementioned artists have strong audiences and massive media support, Prince is too forgotten an artist to see any album ever rereleased. Hell, when he died in 2016, there was hardly any article or report in the news, and you'll notice that there hasn't been a single book about him published ever since he died.

.

I'm glad you created this thread, it was much needed.

It's called a forum for a reason, don't be so high and mighty...I thiought we'd could throw a few things open for discussion, it's just a question asking for people's opinions because we might consider ourselves fans and wonder about such things.

I don't think my post warranted such a saracastic response, get a life, dude. I'm not sure why I even bother coming to this site when there's people like you here, I've got way more important things to be doing.

[Edited 1/10/18 7:39am]

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Reply #5 posted 01/10/18 7:47am

databank

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cra1g0s said:

databank said:

16 new albums will be released in the next few months, but we all agreed that it was better to hide this fact from you, and you alone. So we made sure there would be no announcement anywhere online, and we're discussing it on a hidden board that you will never be given access to. That's the reason why there was no news on the Org or anywhere else about new releases but don't worry, your record store will soon be flooded by Prince CD's.

.

As for the lack of market, you are correct. There is a market for the recent double CD reissue of Apollonia's 1988 album, as well as Martika's Kitchen or albums by André Cymone or Wendy & Lisa that had been out of print for 30 years. But those records were massive hits that sold by the millions. There is also a market for major superstars such as John Zorn or Buckethead to release a new album on CD every month or so, since every teenager will buy anything they release. But while all the aforementioned artists have strong audiences and massive media support, Prince is too forgotten an artist to see any album ever rereleased. Hell, when he died in 2016, there was hardly any article or report in the news, and you'll notice that there hasn't been a single book about him published ever since he died.

.

I'm glad you created this thread, it was much needed.

It's called a forum for a reason, don't be so high and mighty...I thiought we'd could throw a few things open for discussion, it's just a question asking for people's opinions because we might consider ourselves fans and wonder about such things.

I don't think my post warranted such a saracastic response, get a life, dude. I'm not sure why I even bother coming to this site when there's people like you here, I've got way more important things to be doing.

[Edited 1/10/18 7:39am]

lol lol lol

I so knew that you would say all of that lol lol lol

.

Now that this is all settled, I'll leave you alone so your thread can resume its original course wink

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Reply #6 posted 01/10/18 7:48am

NeptuneHQ

A loooong battle over the rights if his music is blocking it. So we are not going to get a lot of new music in the coming years.

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Reply #7 posted 01/10/18 7:56am

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We won't get anything significant until the probate process has finished and the heirs actually get their inheritance.

RIP sad
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Reply #8 posted 01/10/18 8:06am

cra1g0s

databank said:

cra1g0s said:

It's called a forum for a reason, don't be so high and mighty...I thiought we'd could throw a few things open for discussion, it's just a question asking for people's opinions because we might consider ourselves fans and wonder about such things.

I don't think my post warranted such a saracastic response, get a life, dude. I'm not sure why I even bother coming to this site when there's people like you here, I've got way more important things to be doing.

[Edited 1/10/18 7:39am]

lol lol lol

I so knew that you would say all of that lol lol lol

.

Now that this is all settled, I'll leave you alone so your thread can resume its original course wink

Do you tend to crawl out from underneath your rock with posts like this very often?

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Reply #9 posted 01/10/18 8:09am

databank

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cra1g0s said:

databank said:

lol lol lol

I so knew that you would say all of that lol lol lol

.

Now that this is all settled, I'll leave you alone so your thread can resume its original course wink

Do you tend to crawl out from underneath your rock with posts like this very often?

Not often. Sometimes.

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Reply #10 posted 01/10/18 8:15am

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I haven't given up hope of new bootleg releases... lol

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Reply #11 posted 01/10/18 8:21am

cra1g0s

databank said:

cra1g0s said:

Do you tend to crawl out from underneath your rock with posts like this very often?

Not often. Sometimes.

Then the Troll rushed at Big Billy Goat Gruff who bent his head and bravely charged at the Troll, catching him up in his horns and tossing him into the stream below. The Troll disappeared under the rushing water, never to be seen again. From then on, anyone could cross the bridge and enjoy the sweet green grass with the Three Billy Goats Gruff.

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Reply #12 posted 01/10/18 8:24am

TrivialPursuit

cra1g0s said:

This may come across as me being a bit of a moaning minnie but can we really expect ANY new releases (re-releases) now, or is Prince 4EVER and the expanded Purple Rain editions it?


Prince fans are so entitled.

Two releases in two years, plus merchandise on https://www.officialprincemusic.com/ and https://officialpaisleypark.com/ but no one is satisfied.

SMH

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Reply #13 posted 01/10/18 8:25am

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There will be more releases. Have patience.

Most likely the next release will be a deluxe version of Parade.

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Reply #14 posted 01/10/18 8:31am

namepeace

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A loooong battle over the rights if his music is blocking it. So we are not going to get a lot of new music in the coming years.


I tend to agree.

My hunch is that the rights to the WB back catalogue are more clearly defined, so releases will come from that source. Which is what most fans most desire anyway. But a flood of re-releases on vinyl from the back catalogue were pushed back, so who knows?

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Reply #15 posted 01/10/18 8:40am

TrivialPursuit

djThunderfunk said:

There will be more releases. Have patience.

Most likely the next release will be a deluxe version of Parade.


Let's be clear, as much as we'd l-o-v-e that, it's not fact yet. If I were in charge (and I should be - just sayin'), I'd do a dual (not packaged together) release of deluxe editions of ATWIAD & Parade. They're sister albums and round out The Revolution's run. End of an era, etc. It's past time to do the 30th anniversary of some albums, so they can skip the idea of "anniversary" editions. Just do the deluxe versions of the outtakes we want. Clean up the bootleg market. We are willing to pay a fair price for this stuff.

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Reply #16 posted 01/10/18 8:41am

cra1g0s

TrivialPursuit said:

cra1g0s said:

This may come across as me being a bit of a moaning minnie but can we really expect ANY new releases (re-releases) now, or is Prince 4EVER and the expanded Purple Rain editions it?


Prince fans are so entitled.

Two releases in two years, plus merchandise on https://www.officialprincemusic.com/ and https://officialpaisleypark.com/ but no one is satisfied.

SMH

No, that's not it, I don't feel entitled at all, whatever comes our way as new releases will be great but I'm not expecting anything.

I'm not sure what it was like for other artists with never released material, all this talk for years of a vault of completed never see the light of day projects, I just hope one day some of this stuff will be released.

Like any artist of worth with such an amazing body of work and then an awful lot of unreleased work, albums, live shows etc. why wouldn't we be interested in seeing this released but I certainly don't feel entitled to this. There's plenty of other music from other artists to listen to in the meantime.

Man, you ask a genuine question and it's interesting to see the reponses you get sometimes.

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Reply #17 posted 01/10/18 8:42am

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Hope for a new release? No, Hope for a new release in our lifetime? Yes

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Reply #18 posted 01/10/18 8:44am

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TheEnglishGent said:

We won't get anything significant until the probate process has finished and the heirs actually get their inheritance.



Probably closest to the truth so never lose hope.

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Reply #19 posted 01/10/18 8:46am

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Who knows?

And in that regard, it's very much like when Prince was alive. New stuff dropped when new stuff dropped.

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databank

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cra1g0s said:

databank said:

Not often. Sometimes.

Then the Troll rushed at Big Billy Goat Gruff who bent his head and bravely charged at the Troll, catching him up in his horns and tossing him into the stream below. The Troll disappeared under the rushing water, never to be seen again. From then on, anyone could cross the bridge and enjoy the sweet green grass with the Three Billy Goats Gruff.

lol

Yeah but I really don't do it much, and I've been a pretty active contributor for 16 years, so I guess I'm forgiven nod

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Reply #21 posted 01/10/18 8:53am

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TrivialPursuit said:

djThunderfunk said:

There will be more releases. Have patience.

Most likely the next release will be a deluxe version of Parade.


Let's be clear, as much as we'd l-o-v-e that, it's not fact yet. If I were in charge (and I should be - just sayin'), I'd do a dual (not packaged together) release of deluxe editions of ATWIAD & Parade. They're sister albums and round out The Revolution's run. End of an era, etc. It's past time to do the 30th anniversary of some albums, so they can skip the idea of "anniversary" editions. Just do the deluxe versions of the outtakes we want. Clean up the bootleg market. We are willing to pay a fair price for this stuff.


I thought using the words "Most likely" did make it "clear" that "it's not fact yet". No?

Obviously nothing is "fact" yet. This thread is an exercise in speculation. wink

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Reply #22 posted 01/10/18 9:07am

novabrkr

I think I still need some time to digest the newer bootleg releases, so I'm not even really craving for official releases at the moment.

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Reply #24 posted 01/10/18 10:47am

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The lawyers on the file havent made enough money yet to settle the issues blocking releases. I'm thinking maybe in four years when they've nearly sucked the estate dry
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Reply #25 posted 01/10/18 11:13am

Anthoknee

Well, I know I haven't given up hope regarding ANY releases (bootleg or legit), hey the sky's the limit: we are talking about a man who did things musically that we mere mortals couldn't even conceive of before HE did them! I'm guessing here but I'll bet the vault has tons of stuff that will contain surprise after surprise for years to come...been pretty surprised so far music

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Reply #26 posted 01/10/18 11:23am

luvsexy4all

doesnt WB or universal have an interest in keeping him "alive" while they try to make money off him????

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Reply #27 posted 01/10/18 1:43pm

rapper

I heard Parade will be the next re-issue, around the same time of year Purple Rain deluxe came out.

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Reply #28 posted 01/10/18 1:52pm

coldasice

cra1g0s said:



databank said:




cra1g0s said:


This may come across as me being a bit of a moaning minnie but can we really expect ANY new releases (re-releases) now, or is Prince 4EVER and the expanded Purple Rain editions it?



I can't confidently say there will be any further physical releases, yes, we may as fans think an expanded SOTT or Parade is warranted, but is there a big enough market? Maybe there is, if I can pickup a deluxe edition re-release of Nirvana's Nevermind for example then I guess there's a case for re-releasing Prince's classic albums that would be interesting and worthwhile purchases for not only his fans but a wider audience.



Releasing his last ever show from the Piano & Mic tour, or a compilation of the best tracks from that tour, maybe on DVD/Blu-Ray too - we can all agree that would be amazing and I think there would be enough interest too to make a release worthwhile. I don't think the passing of time will affect sales either because Prince is up there in the pantheon of great artists and we can count him as standing shoulder to shoulder with the true greats like Hendrix, Lennon etc....but I'm starting to ramble.



I guess my question is, can we have any faith that the 'Prince Estate' (whoever that is) at this point will be able to get new releases out there, or do we need a major label like Warner Bros to step up and get it done?


[Edited 1/10/18 6:32am]



16 new albums will be released in the next few months, but we all agreed that it was better to hide this fact from you, and you alone. So we made sure there would be no announcement anywhere online, and we're discussing it on a hidden board that you will never be given access to. That's the reason why there was no news on the Org or anywhere else about new releases but don't worry, your record store will soon be flooded by Prince CD's.


.


As for the lack of market, you are correct. There is a market for the recent double CD reissue of Apollonia's 1988 album, as well as Martika's Kitchen or albums by André Cymone or Wendy & Lisa that had been out of print for 30 years. But those records were massive hits that sold by the millions. There is also a market for major superstars such as John Zorn or Buckethead to release a new album on CD every month or so, since every teenager will buy anything they release. But while all the aforementioned artists have strong audiences and massive media support, Prince is too forgotten an artist to see any album ever rereleased. Hell, when he died in 2016, there was hardly any article or report in the news, and you'll notice that there hasn't been a single book about him published ever since he died.


.


I'm glad you created this thread, it was much needed.




It's called a forum for a reason, don't be so high and mighty...I thiought we'd could throw a few things open for discussion, it's just a question asking for people's opinions because we might consider ourselves fans and wonder about such things.



I don't think my post warranted such a saracastic response, get a life, dude. I'm not sure why I even bother coming to this site when there's people like you here, I've got way more important things to be doing.

[Edited 1/10/18 7:39am]


If you ever see on the news the estate has been settled, count a year or two after that. When Hendrix died, they got 3 albums and nothing for 30 years. The family was acting the same way. So unless you’re really young I wouldn’t count the days
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Reply #29 posted 01/10/18 1:54pm

coldasice

luvsexy4all said:

doesnt WB or universal have an interest in keeping him "alive" while they try to make money off him????


Not at all...we still don’t even know what WB can release.
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