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Reply #480 posted 11/27/17 4:05am

1Sasha

Agree!

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Reply #481 posted 11/27/17 8:28am

Mumio

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We try to call them out Dave but it's immensely helpful when people like yourself who were directly involved provide more info like you have been doing here. Much appreciated!



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Mumio said:



Is that Youtube channel monetized? Because if it is, then that's your answer. I'm not impressed.

This guy is reading docs without fact checking. He means well but he is dangerious. By his own admission "he didn't read it corrrectly". He has limited knowledge and has never been there so when he says that Comerica is lying he is also calling all of us engineers a lie as well when it comes to the conditions of the Vault. The fact is the tapes are at Iron Mountain and to continue to slander them should be something that stops. now he is taking Sharon's statements ands trying to blame Comerica for the failed UMG deal. The failure lies on the special advisors and Bremer. The problem is that Sharon and her legal advisors have to take a stance so they attack, attack, and attack all who are "presently", responsible instead of making the original people who fucked up accountable. They almost have to do that since one of Sharons advisors was one of the same advisors who originally was involved in the messed up the UMG deal. It's all legal posturing. In the end advisors and lawsuits will cheat the family out of precious time and whatever money that's left. If Comerica stopped tomorrow and it was all turned over to the family would they have a plan? would they be able to work together? We don't know. With each day time moves on and so does a large amoiunt of Princes unhandelled business. Please call people on their Bullshit do not let the validation of unsound theories keep going on. It's waisted air.

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Reply #482 posted 11/27/17 10:04am

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Someone should call Danny Ocean.

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Reply #483 posted 11/27/17 12:25pm

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Once they got their shit together, they just have to up an online music club again.
And release something weekly for a decade. And multimedia is much needed.
Handwritten lyrics, instrumental versions, isolated track versions,
you can do production masterclasses, intruments online courses, he's a musicians' musician.
Live, old rehearsals, there is a fanbase out there who will stay loyal as long as the price is fair and good deeds get done.
As a museum only, I'm not so sure. Private evenings can't pay for a full year. PP suffers a little from geography, tourists-wise.

Goodness will guide us if love is inside us
The colors are brighter, the bond is much tighter
You know no child's a failure
Until the blue sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't ever lose, don't ever lose, don't ever lose your dreams
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Reply #484 posted 11/27/17 4:26pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Someone should call Danny Ocean.

Danny Ocean the 'Me Rehúso" singer?

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Reply #485 posted 11/29/17 1:38pm

AnnaSantana

pps said:



Mumio said:




ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



Does anyone know who this person is?


He makes a video to cause the masses to become hysterical and then issues a retraction?





Is that Youtube channel monetized? Because if it is, then that's your answer. I'm not impressed.



This guy is reading docs without fact checking. He means well but he is dangerious. By his own admission "he didn't read it corrrectly". He has limited knowledge and has never been there so when he says that Comerica is lying he is also calling all of us engineers a lie as well when it comes to the conditions of the Vault. The fact is the tapes are at Iron Mountain and to continue to slander them should be something that stops. now he is taking Sharon's statements ands trying to blame Comerica for the failed UMG deal. The failure lies on the special advisors and Bremer. The problem is that Sharon and her legal advisors have to take a stance so they attack, attack, and attack all who are "presently", responsible instead of making the original people who fucked up accountable. They almost have to do that since one of Sharons advisors was one of the same advisors who originally was involved in the messed up the UMG deal. It's all legal posturing. In the end advisors and lawsuits will cheat the family out of precious time and whatever money that's left. If Comerica stopped tomorrow and it was all turned over to the family would they have a plan? would they be able to work together? We don't know. With each day time moves on and so does a large amoiunt of Princes unhandelled business. Please call people on their Bullshit do not let the validation of unsound theories keep going on. It's waisted air.


Right on.
FUCK DONALD TRUMP
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Reply #486 posted 11/29/17 2:44pm

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Fact-checking is a must, absolutely. As content creators there's a responsibility to get things right.

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Reply #487 posted 12/05/17 1:28pm

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Is the iron mountain in Los Angeles underground and or fire proof?
I'm at work and saw the weather channel and my heart goes out to all the people in so cal. I am praying for them. Secondarily I thought I hope the vault is safe even if it's damaged by water, hopefully it's safe and protected.

There is an iron mountain in pa and I assure you we have no fire here.
I guess they had better restoration in cali for Hollywood film music etc.
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Reply #488 posted 12/05/17 2:20pm

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sexyisintheimagination said:

Is the iron mountain in Los Angeles underground and or fire proof? I'm at work and saw the weather channel and my heart goes out to all the people in so cal. I am praying for them. Secondarily I thought I hope the vault is safe even if it's damaged by water, hopefully it's safe and protected. There is an iron mountain in pa and I assure you we have no fire here. I guess they had better restoration in cali for Hollywood film music etc.

Google is your friend.

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Reply #489 posted 12/05/17 6:37pm

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sexyisintheimagination said:

Is the iron mountain in Los Angeles underground and or fire proof? I'm at work and saw the weather channel and my heart goes out to all the people in so cal. I am praying for them. Secondarily I thought I hope the vault is safe even if it's damaged by water, hopefully it's safe and protected. There is an iron mountain in pa and I assure you we have no fire here. I guess they had better restoration in cali for Hollywood film music etc.



You mean except for the one that's been burning underground for 50+ years?

Centralia PA mine fire:

https://www.huffingtonpos...c09486d4a0

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Reply #490 posted 12/06/17 6:42pm

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nevermind, I stand corrected

I'm sure the stuff is safe and protected
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Reply #491 posted 12/06/17 9:36pm

pps

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1Sasha said:

I am so grateful for Dave's comments. He is one person whose expertise in these matters I would trust. Thank you, Dave.

Me too.

Dave, I heard from someone I know in the industry who knew someone who worked as an engineer at Paisley Park in the early 2000s that the multitracks for Prince's albums up to that point had been digitally transferred. Was this definitely done?

depends upon what tapes you refer to. The Warner Brothers stuff has probably all been digitized as most majors have been transistioning their masters for some time. Now as far as Paisley park and what he was working on. When the facility ran out of 2" analog tape all music was being created on Hard drives and was generated as first stage digital material at it's inception. So literally it was already in a "digitized"state. I hope that answers your question. Let me know if you know the engineer and the time you are referring to?

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Reply #492 posted 12/08/17 4:52am

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Mumio said:



sexyisintheimagination said:


Is the iron mountain in Los Angeles underground and or fire proof? I'm at work and saw the weather channel and my heart goes out to all the people in so cal. I am praying for them. Secondarily I thought I hope the vault is safe even if it's damaged by water, hopefully it's safe and protected. There is an iron mountain in pa and I assure you we have no fire here. I guess they had better restoration in cali for Hollywood film music etc.



You mean except for the one that's been burning underground for 50+ years?

Centralia PA mine fire:

https://www.huffingtonpos...c09486d4a0


——— This is an old mine shaft it has nothing to do with storage.
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Reply #493 posted 12/08/17 5:21am

1Sasha

People simply have to accept the fact that Prince is gone and Paisley Park is no longer a mythic wonderland of sound. It is now a for-profit business enterprise/tourist attraction. We can remember what Prince did there, but that time is over. Vault (and other) materials had to be removed for restoration, protection and future distribution. I am sorry to be so blunt, but I read posts on various social media platforms and people are acting as if anything Prince-related should be at Paisley Park or in Minnesota. Wrong. Even Prince wasn't full-time at PP less than 10 years ago.

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Reply #494 posted 12/08/17 5:36am

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1Sasha said:

People simply have to accept the fact that Prince is gone and Paisley Park is no longer a mythic wonderland of sound. It is now a for-profit business enterprise/tourist attraction. We can remember what Prince did there, but that time is over. Vault (and other) materials had to be removed for restoration, protection and future distribution. I am sorry to be so blunt, but I read posts on various social media platforms and people are acting as if anything Prince-related should be at Paisley Park or in Minnesota. Wrong. Even Prince wasn't full-time at PP less than 10 years ago.


—Exactly it appear he was transiting it to a public space and he was even having another home built so I suspect that the vault material may have been moved at some point.
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Reply #495 posted 12/08/17 6:24am

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When can we expect to see the first invoices from the IM facility?

How well will these be specified?

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Reply #496 posted 12/08/17 2:22pm

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Re invoice specification - based on experience of IM invoicing, the level of specification is usually as agreed betweeen Iron Mountain and the customer and it would be unlikely to disclose much of any particular interest other than cost and volume.

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Reply #497 posted 12/09/17 5:05pm

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Re invoice specification - based on experience of IM invoicing, the level of specification is usually as agreed betweeen Iron Mountain and the customer and it would be unlikely to disclose much of any particular interest other than cost and volume.

Langebleu, would you please tell us more about your experience with Iron Mountain?

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Reply #498 posted 12/10/17 12:14pm

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I have over 10 years' professional experience of dealing with them as one of their customers, negotiating and managing contracts for the purposes of storage and cataloging.

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Reply #499 posted 12/10/17 12:33pm

FlyOnTheWall

langebleu said:

I have over 10 years' professional experience of dealing with them as one of their customers, negotiating and managing contracts for the purposes of storage and cataloging.

Thanks for that bit of information about your background...and Iron Mountain.

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Reply #500 posted 12/10/17 2:27pm

kingricefan

So can you sneak into the facility and make copies of all Prince-ly things for us? razz

langebleu said:

I have over 10 years' professional experience of dealing with them as one of their customers, negotiating and managing contracts for the purposes of storage and cataloging.

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