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Sign ☮ the Times the movie ~ 1987

discussing only the concert film and everything surrounding it's appreciation

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Sign O the Times era ~ 1987

http://prince.org/msg/7/447837

the Black Album era[aborted] ~1988

http://prince.org/msg/7/448846

Prince & his Madhouse 8

http://prince.org/msg/7/448090

the Camille era[aborted] ~1987

http://prince.org/msg/7/4...?&pg=1

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Reply #1 posted 10/10/17 8:19pm

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Filming "Sign o' The Times"...The reason the movie was put on film was, because, when Prince first exposed the new band, a lot of people in Europe held up signs that said "Where are Wendy and Lisa?" and "Where is The Revolution?" They did, they really did.
It was funny, because, I was the new kid on the block. They weren't warm and welcoming to us. Prince got very upset.
We were doing our shows and something drastic happened. I can't remember what country we were in, but, there was a thunderstorm. Mind you, we were performing outside. But, the show must go on. Prince and I were on wireless microphones. There was rain, lightning and thunder. A bolt of thunder struck one of the signs over Boni Boyer's keyboard and it fell. That's when we said "That's it" and Prince decided to put "Sign o' the Times" on film.
I was in my panties. Okay? I was cold. Everyone else was in clothes. You know how my clothes were. I was cold, I was freezing, but, I was professional. When that sign fell and it took a chunk out of Boyer's keyboard, Prince said "That's it." I think God said "I'm going to save you guys."
As a responsible person, Prince was really concerned with all of the band members. He didn't want anyone to get hurt. He didn't want any of the fans to get hurt. Water, lightning and mikes, what do they equal? Disaster. The wind was blowing so hard we couldn't even see. We actually performed as long as we could until we stopped. -Cat Glover

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Reply #3 posted 10/10/17 11:52pm

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Filming "Sign o' The Times"...The reason the movie was put on film was, because, when Prince first exposed the new band, a lot of people in Europe held up signs that said "Where are Wendy and Lisa?" and "Where is The Revolution?" They did, they really did.
It was funny, because, I was the new kid on the block. They weren't warm and welcoming to us. Prince got very upset.
We were doing our shows and something drastic happened. I can't remember what country we were in, but, there was a thunderstorm. Mind you, we were performing outside. But, the show must go on. Prince and I were on wireless microphones. There was rain, lightning and thunder. A bolt of thunder struck one of the signs over Boni Boyer's keyboard and it fell. That's when we said "That's it" and Prince decided to put "Sign o' the Times" on film.
I was in my panties. Okay? I was cold. Everyone else was in clothes. You know how my clothes were. I was cold, I was freezing, but, I was professional. When that sign fell and it took a chunk out of Boyer's keyboard, Prince said "That's it." I think God said "I'm going to save you guys."
As a responsible person, Prince was really concerned with all of the band members. He didn't want anyone to get hurt. He didn't want any of the fans to get hurt. Water, lightning and mikes, what do they equal? Disaster. The wind was blowing so hard we couldn't even see. We actually performed as long as we could until we stopped. -Cat Glover

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Thx for posting this. I never knew about the audience's hostility to the new band (how sad) nor about the thunderstorm. Do you know which show that was?

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Reply #4 posted 10/11/17 2:20am

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^That was in Holland. The outdoor shows in Utrecht were plagued by bad wheather. As a result of this, the outdoor shows in England were canceled and Prince decided to do some extra gigs in the Ahoy Hall in Rotterdam, where the film was made.
I wasn't there myself, but I've heard and read nothing but positive reactions to those shows. Who knows, maybe somebody did hang up a sign like she says, but if so, they certainly weren't speaking for everybody.
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^That was in Holland. The outdoor shows in Utrecht were plagued by bad wheather. As a result of this, the outdoor shows in England were canceled and Prince decided to do some extra gigs in the Ahoy Hall in Rotterdam, where the film was made. I wasn't there myself, but I've heard and read nothing but positive reactions to those shows. Who knows, maybe somebody did hang up a sign like she says, but if so, they certainly weren't speaking for everybody. [Edited 10/11/17 2:21am] [Edited 10/11/17 2:27am] [Edited 10/11/17 2:39am]

Cool, thx. This explains why the tour never hit UK, something I had always found puzzling given that Prince was always able to sold out quite a number of shows in London.

I see on Pvault that this is the 06/21 show in Utrecht. Is there an audience recording or video of that Utrecht show in circulation?

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Reply #6 posted 10/11/17 3:08am

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Oh yeah, there's recordings of all of those shows.
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Oh yeah, there's recordings of all of those shows.

I assumed so. Can u hear the turmoil related to the storm?

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How do you see the storyline of this film?

We have Cat and her lover Gregory Brooks who is the not so good boyfriend, and Prince who takes the spot as the 'object of affect' or even rescuer 2 Cat

After he removed Gregory in 1988 Miko Weaver sorta filled the role..

But for SOTT what do you see as the storyline for the movie/musical?

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Reply #9 posted 10/11/17 6:23am

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Underated, I wish the SOTT tour would have been worldwide. The film, while excellent, does not capture the true concert.

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Reply #10 posted 10/11/17 4:01pm

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Reply #11 posted 10/11/17 4:45pm

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Reply #12 posted 10/12/17 4:21am

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Trivia: The last panoramic shot of the crowd, at the very end of IGBABN, is neither Rotterdam, nor Antwerp.
It's actually the Palais Omnisports de Paris Bercy.

Since the "U Got The Look" video was shot in Paris (presumably June 16th 1987),
there is a reasonable probability that at least a whole Paris SOTT concert was filmed,
before, like the Netherlands ones, being deemed unusable.

See the shots in the "U Got The Look" video intro.
These are excerpts of songs we don't see in the film ("Kiss" being the most obvious),
which again, makes one wonder where they are taken from.
They're not on the SOTT bootleg video outtakes from PP.


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Reply #13 posted 10/12/17 4:31am

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nelcp777 said:

Underated, I wish the SOTT tour would have been worldwide. The film, while excellent, does not capture the true concert.


Being someone who witnessed it from the first row, right in front of Prince's mike, I can only agree.
Seeing the man doing the splits so close you can see a drop of sweat falling from his forehead
is something I wish I could telepathically share with everyone.

That, and having a peek at Sheila's panties during the Transmississippirap (she weared a mini-skirt that night).
I swear, our eyes crossed and she pulled it down a bit when she saw my horny adolescent look at them.


Africa, Cap'n Crunch, Norma Jean, Sex and Cheerio's
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Reply #14 posted 10/12/17 4:51am

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^That was in Holland. The outdoor shows in Utrecht were plagued by bad wheather. As a result of this, the outdoor shows in England were canceled and Prince decided to do some extra gigs in the Ahoy Hall in Rotterdam, where the film was made. I wasn't there myself, but I've heard and read nothing but positive reactions to those shows. Who knows, maybe somebody did hang up a sign like she says, but if so, they certainly weren't speaking for everybody.

I can only remember raving reviews of this tour in Dutch media, right from the start in Sweden, but of course also for the shows in 'de Galgenwaard' in Utrecht. The audience was in it form madhouse on, and certainly fro that magic moment when smoke came from behind the curtain and Prince, behind it, started the guitarsolo to get us into SOTT (the song).

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Reply #15 posted 10/12/17 5:41am

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Who knows more about the screening of Sign O the Times this november?

It seems to be remastered by 'Nexo Digital' and will be in cinemas on november 20 to 22. Is this a new remaster?????

More info on: http://www.nexodigital.it...the-times/

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That, and having a peek at Sheila's panties during the Transmississippirap (she weared a mini-skirt that night).
I swear, our eyes crossed and she pulled it down a bit when she saw my horny adolescent look at them.

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Reply #18 posted 10/16/17 3:14pm

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bonatoc said:

nelcp777 said:

Underated, I wish the SOTT tour would have been worldwide. The film, while excellent, does not capture the true concert.


Being someone who witnessed it from the first row, right in front of Prince's mike, I can only agree.
Seeing the man doing the splits so close you can see a drop of sweat falling from his forehead
is something I wish I could telepathically share with everyone.

That, and having a peek at Sheila's panties during the Transmississippirap (she weared a mini-skirt that night).
I swear, our eyes crossed and she pulled it down a bit when she saw my horny adolescent look at them.


i would think that paris soundboard audio is from a video

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Reply #19 posted 10/18/17 8:32am

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Such a great film. I was in college when it came out, and my friend (who died a few years later) and I were the only ones in the theater when we saw it. Good for us, bad for commercial success.

It would be great to see in the theater again. They should do a limited-event showing for its 30th anniversary (like the kind of showing that Fathom Events does in theaters). It's probably too late to get that ball rolling now.

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Reply #20 posted 10/19/17 3:59am

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scratchtasia said:

Such a great film. I was in college when it came out, and my friend (who died a few years later) and I were the only ones in the theater when we saw it. Good for us, bad for commercial success.

It would be great to see in the theater again. They should do a limited-event showing for its 30th anniversary (like the kind of showing that Fathom Events does in theaters). It's probably too late to get that ball rolling now.

It's already rolling....

check the thread in the concerts forum!

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Reply #21 posted 10/19/17 4:22am

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scratchtasia said:



Such a great film. I was in college when it came out, and my friend (who died a few years later) and I were the only ones in the theater when we saw it. Good for us, bad for commercial success.


It would be great to see in the theater again. They should do a limited-event showing for its 30th anniversary (like the kind of showing that Fathom Events does in theaters). It's probably too late to get that ball rolling now.





It's already rolling....



check the thread in the concerts forum!



Here is the thread with more details regarding the 30th anniversary worldwide film screenings of "Sign O' The Times":

http://prince.org/msg/12/448046

It was originally posted on this forum, but that thread was moved to the "Concerts" forum....
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SOTT movie performance

What's the matter with your life
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What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
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Reply #24 posted 10/19/17 2:35pm

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I remember seeing this film in the theatre.I wanted to stand up and start dancing in the aisle biggrin this movie is incredible!!

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Reply #25 posted 10/19/17 2:41pm

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scratchtasia said:

Such a great film. I was in college when it came out, and my friend (who died a few years later) and I were the only ones in the theater when we saw it. Good for us, bad for commercial success.

yeah,when I saw it in the theatre,there were only about 5 other people there.

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Reply #26 posted 10/19/17 2:45pm

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nelcp777 said:

Underated, I wish the SOTT tour would have been worldwide. The film, while excellent, does not capture the true concert.

In my opinion,one of Prince's biggest career mistakes is not doing a SOTT worldwide tour.In the fall of 1987 (when "U Got The Look" was high on the charts),the momentum around this album was really high.That would have been a perfect time to launch a US tour.

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SoulAlive said:

nelcp777 said:

Underated, I wish the SOTT tour would have been worldwide. The film, while excellent, does not capture the true concert.

In my opinion,one of Prince's biggest career mistakes is not doing a SOTT worldwide tour.In the fall of 1987 (when "U Got The Look" was high on the charts),the momentum around this album was really high.That would have been a perfect time to launch a US tour.

I think the fear of the fame of the purple rain affected Prince in some major decisions of his career

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SoulAlive said:

scratchtasia said:

Such a great film. I was in college when it came out, and my friend (who died a few years later) and I were the only ones in the theater when we saw it. Good for us, bad for commercial success.

yeah,when I saw it in the theatre,there were only about 5 other people there.


Man, in Paris the theatre was packed!
They projected in Cinemascope, on one of the biggest screen available at the time, with THX sound.
It was like going back to the concert a second time.

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