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Reply #30 posted 07/17/17 10:20am

wishuhvn

sulls said:

How cool is this?!!! lol

I'm only piggy-backing off Sull because U cracked me up yesterday about being at the pool as leaks were dripping. Instead of running around town taking care of a few things about be working around the car, waxing the car and keeping an eye out so something soesn't get by me today. With all of my travel for work and an insane family life late latley, the leaks have been a mini salvation and the best therapy than discussing a bipolar wife who's been having manic episodes for a year since her father passed away...So no pool, for this boy who loves the sun or running to the store smile Lessone learned from Sull~~

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Reply #31 posted 07/17/17 10:22am

IstenSzek

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i'm liking it more and more. always thought the early take was my favorite but now
i don't know.

the emptyness of this one, coupled with the reverb and those backin vocals, it's all
so freakin' dark and sexual eek

i love it. after you've listened to this on headphones you really do feel like you were
in some dark soundstage area and you've been touched up, heavily. you just don't
know if you should tell all your friends or scrub yourself in the shower lol



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Reply #32 posted 07/17/17 12:11pm

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Its coo. We already had the full one circulating but this demo is in better quality than that one. The vocals and all are the same and the ending.

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Reply #33 posted 07/17/17 3:51pm

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Prince just 2 fonky! Genius in the making. Never ever thought the original take would be rivaled.

This is just soooo cool!

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Reply #34 posted 07/17/17 5:03pm

EddieC

Okay--that was different. I'm gonna say--I like it better than the Irresistible Bitch one. I'm not sure how I feel about it versus the released version--I'm definitely thinking about it, though. I'd love a provenance for this thing.

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Reply #35 posted 07/17/17 5:10pm

scorp84

The main high-pitched synth line is still in there throughout the whole song. Just have to listen to it really loud lol.

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Reply #36 posted 07/17/17 6:12pm

jaawwnn

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tbokris said:

Early house came out of Disco so I wouldn't have said it came from Prince at all really.

Housequake and these sort of repettive '4 to the floor' jams from that 86 era, I would say, was Prince being influenced by House and 'club' music at the time.

jaawwnn said:

tbokris said: I kind of agree except early house was influenced by Prince wasn't? Who's to say he didn't stumble onto.this sound and then not know what to do with it?

well I mean more that he stumbled onto this sound before it had a name and he couldn't see what to do with it so he dumped this version, the early house lads could see a direction for this kind of music. Just a thought anyway.

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Reply #37 posted 07/17/17 6:12pm

MIRvmn

I think I prefer this one to the released version, it's really good smile
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Reply #38 posted 07/17/17 6:37pm

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Love this sparse arrangement over the original. His vocals are raw and his delivery has more urgency, great take of this classic b-side . Damn dude is missed!

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Reply #39 posted 07/17/17 7:46pm

imprimis

Semi-Fake, Semi-Legitimate. Further evidence that the well-connected trading community enjoys stub digital multitrack copies (in all their 8 to 16 channel glory here). Inauthentic homemade mix, some bad P impersonations thrown in blender (@1:38-1:54) with legitimate rare outtake material. Dry vocal tracks sped up and slowed down, and instrumental stabs muted, at leaker's discretion. Hints of possession of stubs of a 1981 or 1985 version of 'Jerk Out' as well.

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[Edited 7/17/17 19:56pm]

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Reply #40 posted 07/17/17 8:42pm

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imprimis said:

Semi-Fake, Semi-Legitimate. Further evidence that the well-connected trading community enjoys stub digital multitrack copies (in all their 8 to 16 channel glory here). Inauthentic homemade mix, some bad P impersonations thrown in blender (@1:38-1:54) with legitimate rare outtake material. Dry vocal tracks sped up and slowed down, and instrumental stabs muted, at leaker's discretion. Hints of possession of stubs of a 1981 or 1985 version of 'Jerk Out' as well.

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[Edited 7/17/17 19:56pm]

Yeah?

Well goddam.

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Reply #41 posted 07/17/17 8:53pm

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imprimis said:

Semi-Fake, Semi-Legitimate. Further evidence that the well-connected trading community enjoys stub digital multitrack copies (in all their 8 to 16 channel glory here). Inauthentic homemade mix, some bad P impersonations thrown in blender (@1:38-1:54) with legitimate rare outtake material. Dry vocal tracks sped up and slowed down, and instrumental stabs muted, at leaker's discretion. Hints of possession of stubs of a 1981 or 1985 version of 'Jerk Out' as well.

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[Edited 7/17/17 19:56pm]

Jeebus Gripes how long did it take you to edit this non-sequitur hobble dobble?

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Reply #42 posted 07/17/17 11:34pm

BlueShakooo

A predecessor of "WhenDoves Cry"?

A dance track without a bass!

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Reply #43 posted 07/18/17 4:26am

novabrkr

Hmmm.

It's possible that this is just a partial downmix of a version he was working on. Comparable to the so-called "early versions" or "demos" of "Gold" that have only some of the tracks from the full-multitrack production audible on them. In short, "stuff's missing from it".

The synth line being faintly audible throughout the song could be due to channel leakage, the "send" control from a muted track sent to a bus having been set haphazardly, etc.

I wouldn't completely exclude the possibility that this is something that involves fan tinkering. You can do wonders with phase cancellation and layering of sounds.

However, if the multitracks really circulated among collectors I'd expect more "fanmade" stuff having surfaced as a result. People can't help themselves, you know?

[Edited 7/18/17 7:04am]

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Reply #44 posted 07/18/17 2:00pm

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Yes there's something a bit odd about it. Part of it sounds like 81 as the song title suggests but other elements like the Jerk Out like drums and other effects suggest this was worked on later - 1986, maybe soon before he did the released cut. It does sound like some elements have been 'faked', toyed with, vocals sound unusual in some places.

[Edited 7/18/17 14:10pm]

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Reply #45 posted 07/18/17 10:28pm

imprimis

Farfunknugin said:

imprimis said:

Semi-Fake, Semi-Legitimate. Further evidence that the well-connected trading community enjoys stub digital multitrack copies (in all their 8 to 16 channel glory here). Inauthentic homemade mix, some bad P impersonations thrown in blender (@1:38-1:54) with legitimate rare outtake material. Dry vocal tracks sped up and slowed down, and instrumental stabs muted, at leaker's discretion. Hints of possession of stubs of a 1981 or 1985 version of 'Jerk Out' as well.

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[Edited 7/17/17 19:56pm]

Jeebus Gripes how long did it take you to edit this non-sequitur hobble dobble?

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Stream-of-conscious in my inimitable [non-]style. My speculations are reasonably well grounded, nevertheless, and pertinent to the discussion in this thread.

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Reply #46 posted 07/18/17 10:35pm

imprimis

novabrkr said:

Hmmm.

It's possible that this is just a partial downmix of a version he was working on. Comparable to the so-called "early versions" or "demos" of "Gold" that have only some of the tracks from the full-multitrack production audible on them. In short, "stuff's missing from it".

The synth line being faintly audible throughout the song could be due to channel leakage, the "send" control from a muted track sent to a bus having been set haphazardly, etc.

I wouldn't completely exclude the possibility that this is something that involves fan tinkering. You can do wonders with phase cancellation and layering of sounds.

However, if the multitracks really circulated among collectors I'd expect more "fanmade" stuff having surfaced as a result. People can't help themselves, you know?

[Edited 7/18/17 7:04am]

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Your technical contributions are noted, but the entire feel of the track fails to strongly suggest a true downmix (unlike with 'Gold').

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It appears that an isolated vocal track is speeded up and slowed down in different segments of the song (haphazardly and for no discernible artistic reason, as if to taunt that a m/t is in hand); and, in others, some random bloke's passable-on-effort imitation of P's original vocal (an escalation in marking tactics?).

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It also (perhaps) excerpts a higher-quality-than-commonly-circulating pre-Pandemonium version of 'Jerk Out'. Which, of course, is from roughly the same time period, and may be part of the same arsenal of rare material this spurious 'Feel U Up' is partially constructed from, and may hint at another leak coming down the pike in the near term.

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It's an interesting thing to listen to, but it strains credibility to presume it is from 1981, 1982 or 1986, and also of official origin.

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I believe someone with a slightly nuanced understanding of the entire scope of P's discography is trying to intimate (fraudulently) that this is something akin to the development between the two studio versions of 'Something in the Water'. It seems to be trying hard at that angle. And it benefits also from the cognitive dissonance of having been paired at one time or another with 'Irresistible Bitch' which in turn was performed live with 'Possessed' in various interpretations (also add the multiple versions of 'Lust U Always' for some Camille mindf*ckery).

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I appreciate the desire to rationalize something like this into P's being on top of his game (w.r.t. the claims that this is an ahead-of-its-time house/dub type effort), but this would seem to be a strange vehicle through which to advance such pursuits.

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'Stubs' are circulating for many major artists, including MJJ (even before the Sony hack).

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I don't see why we should exempt the grey and black market around P's material from any possibility of some digital copy m/t's circulating in the higher echela.

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'The Dance Electric' alternate mix also seems fan-/homemade (teasing with portions of the song not widely circulating), but is possibly some 1984/85 working mix stemming from the material dredged up for the 2012 A.C. deluxe re-release (or the demo-through-to-completed-song tapes and ~1985 alternate extended mix vinyl rediscovered about five or six years ago).

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[Edited 7/18/17 23:24pm]

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Reply #47 posted 07/20/17 10:33am

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I dunno about this being fanmade. It sounds like the real deal to me - an early version of the track before it got overdubbed and segued with Irresistable Bitch. Either way, I like it. smile

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