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Thread started 04/27/17 9:32am

Militant

moderator

Purple Rain Deluxe Tracklist CONFIRMED by APPLE. [Plus - Electric Intercourse available to stream/buy]

Previous thread here. Electric Intercouse is available to stream or buy in certain territories already.

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Reply #1 posted 04/27/17 9:34am

Militant

moderator

And as you can see, it confirms my earlier leak smile

Reply #2 posted 04/27/17 9:38am

OnlyNDaUsa

And the order is different which may confirm that they source was not your list. So can we sample any yet?

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #3 posted 04/27/17 9:39am

imtbone

Militant said:

And as you can see, it confirms my earlier leak smile

nicely done! What currency is that in the screeshot? Euros?

Reply #4 posted 04/27/17 9:41am

purpleprime

it says 23rd of june...so not that long to wait.....

Reply #5 posted 04/27/17 9:45am

sulls

Spot on, Militant!

"I like to watch."
Reply #6 posted 04/27/17 9:49am

purpleprime

Militant said:

And as you can see, it confirms my earlier leak smile

highfive ....."and this years prince.org Moderator Of 2017 Award goes to Militant.....thank you Mr Militant.....

Reply #7 posted 04/27/17 9:50am

3stori3s

Militant said:

And as you can see, it confirms my earlier leak smile

Could you stop slapping your logos and shit over everything? Violet Reality isn't gonna be a thing. Stop trying to make fetch happen. lol lol

Reply #8 posted 04/27/17 9:51am

bobgeorge2

Looks like we will be able to get Electric Intercourse straight away.

Reply #9 posted 04/27/17 9:51am

soladeo1

Looks like Electric Entercourse will be the lead single...any chance it could be accompanied by a video?
Reply #10 posted 04/27/17 9:56am

Militant

moderator

3stori3s said:

Militant said:

And as you can see, it confirms my earlier leak smile

Could you stop slapping your logos and shit over everything? Violet Reality isn't gonna be a thing. Stop trying to make fetch happen. lol lol



I think you'll find that if you look at the comments under any of our YouTube videos, it definitely is a thing. I think you'll find that with Variety, Jezebel, The Current, Prince Museum and more all crediting us as the source, it definitely is a thing.

But, it's OK if Violet isn't your color. You seem to prefer green.

Reply #11 posted 04/27/17 9:57am

OnlyNDaUsa

so i can not find it yet in the US Itunes store but i am a nub at itunes...

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #12 posted 04/27/17 9:57am

getxxxx

OnlyNDaUsa said:

And the order is different which may confirm that they source was not your list. So can we sample any yet?

regardless of the order its what he posted... stop hating

Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman
Reply #13 posted 04/27/17 9:59am

Militant

moderator

imtbone said:

Militant said:

And as you can see, it confirms my earlier leak smile

nicely done! What currency is that in the screeshot? Euros?



Nope, it's Rupees. iTunes India may have jumped the gun, or maybe they are the furthest Eastern country time wise that has iTunes and there was a time-based embargo on putting it up?

I'm guessing iTunes in other countries will swiftly follow suit.

By the way, I specifically stated in the earlier leak that what I posted wasn't necessarily the exact order. I specifically said that. It's why I didn't put numbers in front of the tracks on the graphic I made.


Electric Intercourse can currently be streamed on iTunes India too. If you change your location on the store to India, it may work. My friend said you might need an Indian credit card though, so I'm not sure.

Either way, it should be on all iTunes stores within the next few hours I would guess, and if not, a rip will almost certainly begin to circulate. Someone is probably ripping it right now.



Reply #14 posted 04/27/17 10:00am

OnlyNDaUsa

so it looks like it will be about $30 to $35 in the US

(based on a single being 15 there and about 1.50 here)

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #15 posted 04/27/17 10:01am

purpleprime

getxxxx said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

And the order is different which may confirm that they source was not your list. So can we sample any yet?

regardless of the order its what he posted... stop hating

exactly...some right moaners on here...and besides you can just switch disc 2 and 3 around......then it will be in the right order,..if thats what you prefer... lol

Reply #16 posted 04/27/17 10:06am

NewpowerScarfo

Everybody is breaking news about his project except for WB. So the date is now June 23rd? I hope so, because I'm tired of waiting for this. Once again, thanx Militant. PS, The Violet Reality is definitely "an thing". When your page breaks a story that makes international news, it automatically becomes an thing. Just saying.

[Edited 4/27/17 10:11am]

Reply #17 posted 04/27/17 10:06am

soladeo1

Where are the two live concerts??

Reply #18 posted 04/27/17 10:06am

OnlyNDaUsa

getxxxx said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

And the order is different which may confirm that they source was not your list. So can we sample any yet?

regardless of the order its what he posted... stop hating

no, you misunderstood! my point! Militant always said that was not the order. I pointed out the order was different to demonstrate that their source was NOT Militant. But is evidence that is was from an official source.

I am super excited about this set! I have myself been checking 3 or 4 times a day since Feb for the tracks! No hate and not an ounce of moaning from me!

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #19 posted 04/27/17 10:06am

nelcp777

Is that in Euros? That is almost $400 US if that is Euros.

Reply #20 posted 04/27/17 10:07am

OnlyNDaUsa

soladeo1 said:

Where are the two live concerts??

good question! Maybe in the video section of Itunes? maybe they will be sold separately?

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #21 posted 04/27/17 10:07am

Se7en

Not to mention the 2 concert films - this will be a very nice release.

Reply #22 posted 04/27/17 10:07am

purpleprime

nelcp777 said:

Is that in Euros? That is almost $400 US if that is Euros.

no its already been said its Indian rupies......

Reply #23 posted 04/27/17 10:08am

oliviacamron

OnlyNDaUsa said:

so it looks like it will be about $30 to $35  in the US

(based on a single being 15 there and about 1.50 here)  


35 euros to dollars is 38.
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
Reply #24 posted 04/27/17 10:08am

OnlyNDaUsa

nelcp777 said:

Is that in Euros? That is almost $400 US if that is Euros.

he said rupees but as a single is listed as 15 and in the US it is $1.29 I assume $30US...give or take

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #25 posted 04/27/17 10:09am

OnlyNDaUsa

oliviacamron said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

so it looks like it will be about $30 to $35 in the US

(based on a single being 15 there and about 1.50 here)

35 euros to dollars is 38.

it is not euros

[Edited 4/27/17 10:09am]

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #26 posted 04/27/17 10:10am

fabriziovenerandi

The sound quality of Electric Intercourse seems a little low only to me?

BTW the snippet is wonderful.

[Edited 4/27/17 10:14am]

Reply #27 posted 04/27/17 10:11am

OnlyNDaUsa

fabriziovenerandi said:

The sound quality of Electric Intercourse seems quite low to me...

wait you can buy it now?

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #28 posted 04/27/17 10:15am

NewpowerScarfo

fabriziovenerandi said:

The sound quality of Electric Intercourse seems quite low to me...

Huh? Silly goose, it's not for sale yet. lol

Reply #29 posted 04/27/17 10:16am

Crump

I see you can get this as Deluxe with just the vault or Expanded with all the b sides in addition. I hope this pleases some people biggrin

[Edited 4/27/17 10:17am]

Reply #30 posted 04/27/17 10:16am

fabriziovenerandi

OnlyNDaUsa said:

fabriziovenerandi said:

The sound quality of Electric Intercourse seems quite low to me...

wait you can buy it now?

Not in Italy, I'm listening the snippet from Japan Store

Reply #31 posted 04/27/17 10:16am

bfunk

Link to the artwork

Reply #32 posted 04/27/17 10:17am

OnlyNDaUsa

NewpowerScarfo said:

fabriziovenerandi said:

The sound quality of Electric Intercourse seems quite low to me...

Huh? Silly goose, it's not for sale yet. lol

I got all happy! Now we were told it is a studio version and not based on the rehearsal. Prince vault said that he might have used the recording from first ave... but that seems to be inferior to me (based on the quality of the ones i have heard and then based on the quality of the recording not the vocal)

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #33 posted 04/27/17 10:18am

nelcp777

oliviacamron said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

so it looks like it will be about $30 to $35 in the US

(based on a single being 15 there and about 1.50 here)

35 euros to dollars is 38.

Sorry I missed that. Thank you for the information.

Reply #34 posted 04/27/17 10:18am

OnlyNDaUsa

fabriziovenerandi said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

wait you can buy it now?

Not in Italy, I'm listening the snippet from Japan Store

is it a new vocal or is it based on either the rehearsal or the live recording?

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #35 posted 04/27/17 10:18am

purpleprime

Crump said:

I see you can get this as Deluxe with just the vault or Expanded with all the b sides in addition. I hope this pleases some people biggrin

[Edited 4/27/17 10:17am]

cool!!......Im going Expanded!! and im also buying Deluxe!! lol

Reply #36 posted 04/27/17 10:19am

NewpowerScarfo

OnlyNDaUsa said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

Huh? Silly goose, it's not for sale yet. lol

I got all happy! Now we were told it is a studio version and not based on the rehearsal. Prince vault said that he might have used the recording from first ave... but that seems to be inferior to me (based on the quality of the ones i have heard and then based on the quality of the recording not the vocal)

lol

Reply #37 posted 04/27/17 10:20am

OnlyNDaUsa

so i guess at midnight i will check it out!

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #38 posted 04/27/17 10:20am

NewpowerScarfo

bfunk said:

Link to the artwork

OMG! It's beautiful

Reply #39 posted 04/27/17 10:22am

OnlyNDaUsa

NewpowerScarfo said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I got all happy! Now we were told it is a studio version and not based on the rehearsal. Prince vault said that he might have used the recording from first ave... but that seems to be inferior to me (based on the quality of the ones i have heard and then based on the quality of the recording not the vocal)

lol

i am literally having heart palpitations! ok maybe not quite but i am happy like a room without a roof and the forecast is sunny and cool all day baby

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #40 posted 04/27/17 10:23am

Militant

moderator

Ah, so it's in the Japan store as well as India? That supports it most likely being a time-based embargo.

Reply #41 posted 04/27/17 10:24am

MiceElfAgin

3stori3s said:

Militant said:

And as you can see, it confirms my earlier leak smile

Could you stop slapping your logos and shit over everything?

.

Co-sign.

Also: I don't know why this had to be a new sticky, replacing the previous one. (Apart from it being another opportunity for self-promotion.)

Reply #42 posted 04/27/17 10:25am

NewpowerScarfo

OnlyNDaUsa said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

lol

i am literally having heart palpitations! ok maybe not quite but i am happy like a room without a roof and the forecast is sunny and cool all day baby

I'm keeping my emotions in check until WB offically announce the release date......then I will jump up and down like kermit the frog. lol

Reply #43 posted 04/27/17 10:25am

fabriziovenerandi

OnlyNDaUsa said:

fabriziovenerandi said:

Not in Italy, I'm listening the snippet from Japan Store

is it a new vocal or is it based on either the rehearsal or the live recording?

It seems to me a complete studio version. Very "1999"'s sound if I can say.

Reply #44 posted 04/27/17 10:25am

bfunk

Militant said:

Ah, so it's in the Japan store as well as India? That supports it most likely being a time-based embargo.

Yes, Australia too.

Reply #45 posted 04/27/17 10:27am

getxxxx

OnlyNDaUsa said:

so i guess at midnight i will check it out!

you can change your store in the bottom of the page of iTunes

Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman
Reply #46 posted 04/27/17 10:27am

NoVideo

This is really exciting. I can't wait to hear this. I am trying to surpress my automatic response which seems to be "more!!!" becuase we know there was so much more material from which to choose. Wasn't G-Spot in Darling Nikki's place for a while? I would think that would make sense for inclusion. And wasn't All Day, All Night recorded w/ the band around this time? His vocal version of that would be wonderful. There are so many.

.

BUT I do think it's a wonderful track listing, I'm just greedy and want more. Hopefully this is the tip of the iceberg. I'm sure all the buseinss and licensing stuff will get sorted out. There is a lot of $$$$ to be made for the estate and all involved.

.

We'll have Prince archival releases from now thru about eternity. I just hope they are handled with the are they deserve.

.

But in the meantime - - YES!!!! I cannot wait for this release. I hope there is a vinyl set that includes the studio album and the Vault album. Interestingly, the way the tracks are sequenced for the Vault disc, it's a perfect setup for a 2-LP vinyl release, 3-LP overall including the main set. They could probably make it a 4-LP set with an abbreviated version of Disc 2 with the key songs (the single edits don't strike me as particularly essential).

.

Proposed Vinyl Box Set (as a vinyl nut, I have to dream haha)

LP 1: Purple Rain - Remastered

.

LP 2: Purple Rain - B-Sides and Extended Mixes

.

Side One

.

Let's Go Crazy (Special Dance Mix) [7.36]

Erotic City (Extended Version) [7.25]

17 Days [3.58]

God [4.04]

.

Side Two

.

God (Love Them From Purple Rain) [7.59]

Another Lonely Christmas (single edit) [4.56]

I Would Die 4 U (Extended Tour Rehearsal Version) [10.20]


LP 3: From The Vault - Disc one

.

Side One

.

The Dance Electric [11.29]

Love & Sex [5.00]

.

Side Two

.

Computer Blue (Hallways Speech Version [12.18]

Velvet Kitty Cat [2.42]

Katrina's Paper Dolls [3.30]

LP 4: From The Vault - Disc one

.

Side One

.

We Can Fuck [10.17]

Electric Intercourse [4.57]

Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden [6.25]

.

Side Two

.

Possesed [7.56]
Wonderful Ass [6.24]
Father's Song [5.30]

* * *

Prince's Classic Finally Expanded
The Deluxe 'Purple Rain' Reissue

http://www.popmatters.com...n-reissue/
Reply #47 posted 04/27/17 10:28am

Crump

Now we just need DETAILS ON THE TWO DVD'S!!!

I really hope for cleaned up First Av show now as not feeling the studio Electric Intercourse neutral

Reply #48 posted 04/27/17 10:29am

PURPLEIZED3121

Militant said:

3stori3s said:

Could you stop slapping your logos and shit over everything? Violet Reality isn't gonna be a thing. Stop trying to make fetch happen. lol lol



I think you'll find that if you look at the comments under any of our YouTube videos, it definitely is a thing. I think you'll find that with Variety, Jezebel, The Current, Prince Museum and more all crediting us as the source, it definitely is a thing.

But, it's OK if Violet isn't your color. You seem to prefer green.

BOOOOM! great reply!...green indeed!

Reply #49 posted 04/27/17 10:31am

PURPLEIZED3121

Crump said:

Now we just need DETAILS ON THE TWO DVD'S!!!

I really hope for cleaned up First Av show now as not feeling the studio Electric Intercourse neutral

agreed, it's such a historic gig, i guess there's only so much they can do to clean it up? but it really should be released as a historic document.

Reply #50 posted 04/27/17 10:32am

SomeSoldier

Thanks for the information, Casey (I don't uderstand why people here have a problem with you sharing it!). I'm getting excited now (after being quite aprehensive at the beginning!)

Reply #51 posted 04/27/17 10:33am

purpleprime

is "Fathers Song" another version of "God"?.....I cant find any info on it....

Reply #52 posted 04/27/17 10:33am

Crump

Can we expect June 23rd worldwide?

Reply #53 posted 04/27/17 10:36am

Militant

moderator

Electric Intercourse sounds phenomenal!!!!

Reply #54 posted 04/27/17 10:38am

brassneck

Militant said:

Electric Intercourse sounds phenomenal!!!!

Seconded!

Reply #55 posted 04/27/17 10:38am

OnlyNDaUsa

purpleprime said:

is "Fathers Song" another version of "God"?.....I cant find any info on it....



Computer6 blue
"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #56 posted 04/27/17 10:38am

fabriziovenerandi

Militant said:

Electric Intercourse sounds phenomenal!!!!

Yes, here the sound seem a little "flat" (like MoonBeam Levels), but the song is great.

Reply #57 posted 04/27/17 10:40am

fabriziovenerandi

The "deluxe" version (only Purple Rain and The Vault) is 1650 yen (more or less 13,64 euro)

Reply #58 posted 04/27/17 10:40am

purpleprime

OnlyNDaUsa said:

purpleprime said:

is "Fathers Song" another version of "God"?.....I cant find any info on it....

Computer6 blue

thank you Sir/Madame..... highfive

Reply #59 posted 04/27/17 10:41am

Militant

moderator

I thought this was pretty obvious but apparently I need to address it - I made a new thread because


A) The information is now "official"

and

B) Electric Intercourse is now available to stream, so it deserved a new thread.

Reply #60 posted 04/27/17 10:44am

purpleprime

will someone give me a link to Electric Intercourse so i can hear a snippet i cant find it anywhere

Reply #61 posted 04/27/17 10:45am

getxxxx

purpleprime said:

is "Fathers Song" another version of "God"?.....I cant find any info on it....

http://www.princevault.co...r%27s_Song

Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman
Reply #62 posted 04/27/17 10:46am

fabriziovenerandi

Militant said:

B) Electric Intercourse is now available to stream, so it deserved a new thread.

Well, you can buy Electric Intercourse in some places so the thread is right.

Reply #63 posted 04/27/17 10:47am

feeluupp

purpleprime said:

will someone give me a link to Electric Intercourse so i can hear a snippet i cant find it anywhere

Go to iTUNES and change it to INDIA and type in Purple Rain Deluxe then you can listen to the snippet.

Reply #64 posted 04/27/17 10:48am

feeluupp

I love those haunting piano chords on Electric Intercourse, the sound is amazing too. Well done with the remaster.

Reply #65 posted 04/27/17 10:48am

fabriziovenerandi

purpleprime said:

will someone give me a link to Electric Intercourse so i can hear a snippet i cant find it anywhere

https://itunes.apple.com/...6&l=en

[Edited 4/27/17 10:48am]

Reply #66 posted 04/27/17 10:49am

MiceElfAgin

Militant said:

I thought this was pretty obvious but apparently I need to address it - I made a new thread because


A) The information is now "official"

and

B) Electric Intercourse is now available to stream, so it deserved a new thread.

.

A: you could have easily modified the title of the previous thread (as you just did to this one)
B: you've created this new sticky before discovering EI being available to stream.

Anyway, thanks for the news.

Reply #67 posted 04/27/17 10:49am

purpleprime

feeluupp said:

purpleprime said:

will someone give me a link to Electric Intercourse so i can hear a snippet i cant find it anywhere

Go to iTUNES and change it to INDIA and type in Purple Rain Deluxe then you can listen to the snippet.

thank you very much!! hug

Reply #68 posted 04/27/17 10:51am

purpleprime

getxxxx said:

purpleprime said:

is "Fathers Song" another version of "God"?.....I cant find any info on it....

http://www.princevault.co...r%27s_Song

thanks for your help..much appreciated highfive

Reply #69 posted 04/27/17 10:53am

Militant

moderator

MiceElfAgin said:

Militant said:

I thought this was pretty obvious but apparently I need to address it - I made a new thread because


A) The information is now "official"

and

B) Electric Intercourse is now available to stream, so it deserved a new thread.

.

A: you could have easily modified the title of the previous thread (as you just did to this one)
B: you've created this new sticky before discovering EI being available to stream.

Anyway, thanks for the news.



The other thread was several pages look, and had a bunch of people discussing whether it was real, whether it was finalized, and a ton more speculation etc. Now it's real, thus new thread.

I knew Electric Intercourse was available to stream, because when my friend phoned me to say the album was up before I made the graphic, he played it down the phone. I wanted to get the graphic up first and then try changing regions myself to hear the song before I updated the thread title.

Reply #70 posted 04/27/17 10:53am

Polo1026

Electric Intercourse is FIRE! I like the bounce the record has vs the live version tha I've heard. If this is the lead single it's gonna be a nice hit and be copied by Future and Designer immediately.

Reply #71 posted 04/27/17 10:59am

leecaldon

This is genuinely exciting stuff

Reply #72 posted 04/27/17 11:01am

MiceElfAgin

Wondering why 'When Doves Cry (7" Edit)' is credited to 'Prince' instead of 'Prince & The Revolution'. Is it going to be at the end of the CD with the previously unreleased stuff?

Reply #73 posted 04/27/17 11:02am

Dilan

can someone upload it somewhere

I'm feeling a bit fammy™
Reply #74 posted 04/27/17 11:03am

OnlyNDaUsa

MiceElfAgin said:

Wondering why 'When Doves Cry (7" Edit)' is credited to 'Prince' instead of 'Prince & The Revolution'. Is it going to be at the end of the CD with the previously unreleased stuff?


Well it was just prince on that song but it could be a typo

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #75 posted 04/27/17 11:06am

MiceElfAgin

OnlyNDaUsa said:

MiceElfAgin said:

Wondering why 'When Doves Cry (7" Edit)' is credited to 'Prince' instead of 'Prince & The Revolution'. Is it going to be at the end of the CD with the previously unreleased stuff?


Well it was just prince on that song but it could be a typo

.
I know that it's just him on the recording...
(It's just him on 'God' and several others too, yet those are credited to the Revolution...)

Anyway, could be an error of course.

Reply #76 posted 04/27/17 11:09am

SomeSoldier

Wow, what am I listening to??? This is not the Electric Intercourse I know!!! (But equally fantastic!)

Reply #77 posted 04/27/17 11:11am

OnlyNDaUsa

SomeSoldier said:

Wow, what am I listening to??? This is not the Electric Intercourse I know!!! (But equally fantastic!)

and i can not work out how to play it. maybe it will be on amazon soon too? (anyone have access to amazon in japan? is it on there yet?)

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #78 posted 04/27/17 11:12am

RaspBerryGirlFriend

Snippet sounds cool, although looks like you're only able to buy the whole song if you've actually got an Indian iTunes account, tried to do it but was apparently redirected to the UK store but obviously that doesn't have it up yet. How annoying, I'm British-Indian but apparently that ain't enough sad

Heavenly wine and roses seems to whisper to me when you smile...
Always cry for love, never cry for pain...
Reply #79 posted 04/27/17 11:13am

brassneck

MiceElfAgin said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:


Well it was just prince on that song but it could be a typo

.
I know that it's just him on the recording...
(It's just him on 'God' and several others too, yet those are credited to the Revolution...)

Anyway, could be an error of course.

It's not an error. The single "When Doves Cry" was originally only credited to Prince.

Reply #80 posted 04/27/17 11:14am

luv4u

Moderator

moderator

Looking forward to this cool

Edmonton, AB - canada

Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
Reply #81 posted 04/27/17 11:15am

thedance

MiceElfAgin said:

Wondering why 'When Doves Cry (7" Edit)' is credited to 'Prince' instead of 'Prince & The Revolution'. Is it going to be at the end of the CD with the previously unreleased stuff?

When Doves Cry is a Prince song, the band is not on this (the lead single from the album).

Prince did play everything himself on this song (afaik).

woot! music

[Edited 4/27/17 11:15am]

Prince 4Ever. heart
Reply #82 posted 04/27/17 11:15am

SomeSoldier

OnlyNDaUsa said:

SomeSoldier said:

Wow, what am I listening to??? This is not the Electric Intercourse I know!!! (But equally fantastic!)

and i can not work out how to play it. maybe it will be on amazon soon too? (anyone have access to amazon in japan? is it on there yet?)

I'm one of the clumsy ones too, to be fair, I can only play the preview snippet in the Japanese iTunes store...

Reply #83 posted 04/27/17 11:17am

thedance

brassneck said:

MiceElfAgin said:

.
I know that it's just him on the recording...
(It's just him on 'God' and several others too, yet those are credited to the Revolution...)

Anyway, could be an error of course.

It's not an error. The single "When Doves Cry" was originally only credited to Prince.

yeahthat

( you were faster than me, cool.... biggrin )

Prince 4Ever. heart
Reply #84 posted 04/27/17 11:19am

thedance

luv4u said:

Looking forward to this cool

me too, eek cool



I can't wait for June 16, 2017 to happen...



excited

Prince 4Ever. heart
Reply #85 posted 04/27/17 11:21am

MiceElfAgin

thedance said:

MiceElfAgin said:

Wondering why 'When Doves Cry (7" Edit)' is credited to 'Prince' instead of 'Prince & The Revolution'. Is it going to be at the end of the CD with the previously unreleased stuff?

When Doves Cry is a Prince song, the band is not on this (the lead single from the album).

Prince did play everything himself on this song (afaik).

woot! music

[Edited 4/27/17 11:15am]

.
Jeeez, guys, of course I KNOW it was recorded by Prince alone! smile


Just as 'God', 'The Beautiful Ones', 'Darling Nikki', 'Erotic City' and 'Another Lonely Christmas' were, yet they are credited to the Revolution.


Reply #86 posted 04/27/17 11:21am

bfunk

thedance said:

luv4u said:

Looking forward to this cool

me too, eek cool



I can't wait for June 16, 2017 to happen...



excited

Release date on iTunes looks like 6/23.

Reply #87 posted 04/27/17 11:23am

MiceElfAgin

brassneck said:

MiceElfAgin said:

.
I know that it's just him on the recording...
(It's just him on 'God' and several others too, yet those are credited to the Revolution...)

Anyway, could be an error of course.

It's not an error. The single "When Doves Cry" was originally only credited to Prince.

.
OK, thank you.

Reply #88 posted 04/27/17 11:28am

Phishanga

Damn, I'm curious about Electric Intercourse... can't change to iTunes India though, because of the Apple Music subscription.

Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
Reply #89 posted 04/27/17 11:29am

OnlyNDaUsa

Phishanga said:

Damn, I'm curious about Electric Intercourse... can't change to iTunes India though, because of the Apple Music subscription.

could you make a 2nd account and use that?

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #90 posted 04/27/17 11:29am

getxxxx

Crump said:

Can we expect June 23rd worldwide?

Friday is worldwide release dates... so yes

Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman
Reply #91 posted 04/27/17 11:37am

Militant

moderator

I imagine UK and Europe iTunes will follow suit within the next 2-3 hours.... USA might have the longest wait due to timezones...



Reply #92 posted 04/27/17 11:46am

rusty1

I find it strange that Warner Brothers
hasn't said anything yet.
We all know this is the offical tracklist
now.
I don't get it with them
BOB4theFUNK
Reply #93 posted 04/27/17 11:48am

MiceElfAgin

fabriziovenerandi said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

is it a new vocal or is it based on either the rehearsal or the live recording?

It seems to me a complete studio version. Very "1999"'s sound if I can say.

.
Yep. Nice, real, acoustic piano – not the CP70 as on the rehearsal and live versions.

Reply #94 posted 04/27/17 11:51am

laurarichardson

rusty1 said:

I find it strange that Warner Brothers hasn't said anything yet. We all know this is the offical tracklist now. I don't get it with them

I think they are not going to spend any money promoting it. Remember this WB is owned by a private equity group. This is not a big conglomerate

Reply #95 posted 04/27/17 11:52am

SomeSoldier

laurarichardson said:

rusty1 said:

I find it strange that Warner Brothers hasn't said anything yet. We all know this is the offical tracklist now. I don't get it with them

I think they are not going to spend any money promoting it. Remember this WB is owned by a private equity group. This is not a big conglomerate

I think they will, as it could potentially make a lot of money for them...

Reply #96 posted 04/27/17 11:52am

Polo1026

rusty1 said:

I find it strange that Warner Brothers hasn't said anything yet. We all know this is the offical tracklist now. I don't get it with them

My guess is the June 23rd date is a estimated release date, it could be released earlier or later. Also, they are probably in the process of getting the two concert videos set before an official press release is issued about the project. This is a huge release for them this year they can't flub it up, it has to be as perfect as can be.

Reply #97 posted 04/27/17 11:55am

Dilan

dont like i prefer the live version

I'm feeling a bit fammy™
Reply #98 posted 04/27/17 12:02pm

Transformed1

When looking at the Japan iTunes to (unsuccessfully) hear a snip of EI, I saw this...

https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/live-at-syracuse-30-mar-85-remastered/id1178372340?l=en

Remastered Syracuse 1985 concert. Looks official. Is this new? First I heard of it.

Edit...

This too...

https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/live-at-the-omni-atlanta-ga-usa-4-jan-1985-remastered/id1195883496?l=en

Cover art looks like its part of the Deluxe Purple Rain. I'm very sad if this means that there is no First Ave benefit concert debut of PR material (!!!)

[Edited 4/27/17 12:05pm]

Reply #99 posted 04/27/17 12:04pm

MiceElfAgin

Transformed1 said:

When looking at the Japan iTunes to (unsuccessfully) hear a snip of EI, I saw this...

https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/live-at-syracuse-30-mar-85-remastered/id1178372340?l=en

Remastered Syracuse 1985 concert. Looks official. Is this new? First I heard of it.

.
Bootleg.

Reply #100 posted 04/27/17 12:05pm

OnlyNDaUsa

well i heard it... sounds fine but i will need to get used to it

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #101 posted 04/27/17 12:06pm

rusty1

Polo1026 said:

 



rusty1 said:


I find it strange that Warner Brothers hasn't said anything yet. We all know this is the offical tracklist now. I don't get it with them

 


My guess is the June 23rd date is a estimated release date, it could be released earlier or later. Also, they are probably in the process of getting the two concert videos set before an official press release is issued about the project. This is a huge release for them this year they can't flub it up, it has to be as perfect as can be.



I was hoping warner Brothers would put out
a limited deluxe set with other songs such as
"All day, All night, " G-spot", "Traffic Jam"..
In addition to those 2 concerts
BOB4theFUNK
Reply #102 posted 04/27/17 12:06pm

IstenSzek

so just to be clear, is electric intercourse available to buy as a single track yet?

or is it part of the full package and you get it as a direct download with purchase?

also, i want it now lol now now now lol

can't listen to the snippets, but i'll wait until the whole song is available.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #103 posted 04/27/17 12:07pm

Polo1026

Dilan said:

dont like i prefer the live version

I love that bounce! The live version is a slow bluesy number but that style fit in the context of the concert they were playing the night it was recorded.

Reply #104 posted 04/27/17 12:08pm

MiceElfAgin

IstenSzek said:

so just to be clear, is electric intercourse available to buy as a single track yet?

.

It seems to be available in the stores of Australia, Japan, India, Hong Kong etc, etc. – if you have an iTunes account in any of those countries. Surely it will become available by tomorrow in other territories as well.

[Edited 4/27/17 12:11pm]

Reply #105 posted 04/27/17 12:10pm

IstenSzek

MiceElfAgin said:

IstenSzek said:

so just to be clear, is electric intercourse available to buy as a single track yet?

or is it part of the full package and you get it as a direct download with purchase?

also, i want it now lol now now now lol

can't listen to the snippets, but i'll wait until the whole song is available.

.

It is available in the stores of Australia, Japan, India, Hong Kong etc, etc. – if you have an iTunes account in any of those countries. Surely it will become available by tomorrow in other territories as well.


thanks thumbs up! since i'm a complete nunce at anything digital, i don't even know how
to change my location in the itunes store lol so i'll wait until tomorrow and buy it then.
something nice to look forward to woot!

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #106 posted 04/27/17 12:11pm

Marco81

Are we still talking about the sample or is the full song available for purchase already?
Reply #107 posted 04/27/17 12:12pm

brassneck

Transformed1 said:

When looking at the Japan iTunes to (unsuccessfully) hear a snip of EI, I saw this...

https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/live-at-syracuse-30-mar-85-remastered/id1178372340?l=en

Remastered Syracuse 1985 concert. Looks official. Is this new? First I heard of it.

Edit...

This too...

https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/live-at-the-omni-atlanta-ga-usa-4-jan-1985-remastered/id1195883496?l=en

Cover art looks like its part of the Deluxe Purple Rain. I'm very sad if this means that there is no First Ave benefit concert debut of PR material (!!!)

[Edited 4/27/17 12:05pm]

Neither of those is official.

Reply #108 posted 04/27/17 12:12pm

Militant

moderator

You can change your location but then I think you need a debit/credit card and billing address from that location in order to buy/stream. I think that's the case but not 100% sure, I use Google Play Music personally!

So people who are actually in Aus/India/Japan should be able to buy it already and they can definitely stream it already.

Reply #109 posted 04/27/17 12:13pm

MiceElfAgin

IstenSzek said:

MiceElfAgin said:

.

It is available in the stores of Australia, Japan, India, Hong Kong etc, etc. – if you have an iTunes account in any of those countries. Surely it will become available by tomorrow in other territories as well.


thanks thumbs up! since i'm a complete nunce at anything digital, i don't even know how
to change my location in the itunes store lol so i'll wait until tomorrow and buy it then.
something nice to look forward to woot!

.
You can change country within the iTunes store at the bottom right of the page.

Reply #110 posted 04/27/17 12:19pm

lust

Available in New Zealand store too.

Happy flippin Friday it is.
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
Reply #111 posted 04/27/17 12:20pm

OnlyNDaUsa

to hear the 1.5 min sample click on store then go the the bottom and click change country and Japan is like 3 sub-lists below... then search "purple rain deluxe" and then look a little down mine was on the left and click that image to see the full list...

So i was 100% wrong! it sounds like a totally new recording.

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #112 posted 04/27/17 12:22pm

MiceElfAgin

In the iTunes store of Turkmenistan the Expanded Edition is only USD 9.99. (Still not moving there.)

Reply #113 posted 04/27/17 12:23pm

TwiliteKid

laurarichardson said:

rusty1 said:

I find it strange that Warner Brothers hasn't said anything yet. We all know this is the offical tracklist now. I don't get it with them

I think they are not going to spend any money promoting it. Remember this WB is owned by a private equity group. This is not a big conglomerate

Nonsense, as usual. Expect a press release tomorrow.

Reply #114 posted 04/27/17 12:23pm

OnlyNDaUsa

so i guess i will buy EI as soon as i am able.

anyone have any luck with it on amazon?

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #115 posted 04/27/17 12:26pm

laurarichardson

TwiliteKid said:

laurarichardson said:

I think they are not going to spend any money promoting it. Remember this WB is owned by a private equity group. This is not a big conglomerate

Nonsense, as usual. Expect a press release tomorrow.

Okay we will see because outside of initial announcements there was very little promotion for AOA or Forever. I can only go by their track record so far.

I hope you know there is more to promotion then a press release.

Reply #116 posted 04/27/17 12:28pm

getxxxx

Polo1026 said:

rusty1 said:

I find it strange that Warner Brothers hasn't said anything yet. We all know this is the offical tracklist now. I don't get it with them

My guess is the June 23rd date is a estimated release date, it could be released earlier or later. Also, they are probably in the process of getting the two concert videos set before an official press release is issued about the project. This is a huge release for them this year they can't flub it up, it has to be as perfect as can be.

That the date its a Friday worldwide release date, the digital can be dropped before the product is in stores. Things dont go up on iTunes without a release date.

[Edited 4/27/17 12:28pm]

Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman
Reply #117 posted 04/27/17 12:31pm

Militant

moderator

It's pretty insane that this has managed to get this far without a new press release that specified the release date and announced the tracklist officially. A dedicated website to capture email addresses for a mailing list wouldn't have hurt, either. Something... Anything!

If they wanted to do Beyonce style guerrila tactics they should have just dropped the full digital release out of nowhere, with the physical to follow.

I don't doubt that they'll do some promotion, but letting this go live without officially announcing any info and then just waiting for us to find it, is pretty bizarre.




Reply #118 posted 04/27/17 12:31pm

IstenSzek

ok well that sounds....different biggrin i'm sure i'll love it once i've heard it a couple of times.
it's just a bit of a transition, from the live version. but i'm pretty sure i'll be obsessed with
it before long smile

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #119 posted 04/27/17 12:31pm

maceoparker007

Will this be available on CD? I rather have it on CD and then rip it to FLAC.

Reply #120 posted 04/27/17 12:34pm

laurarichardson

Militant said:

It's pretty insane that this has managed to get this far without a new press release that specified the release date and announced the tracklist officially. A dedicated website to capture email addresses for a mailing list wouldn't have hurt, either. Something... Anything!

If they wanted to do Beyonce style guerrila tactics they should have just dropped the full digital release out of nowhere, with the physical to follow.

I don't doubt that they'll do some promotion, but letting this go live without officially announcing any info and then just waiting for us to find it, is pretty bizarre.




Not bizarre more like being cheap. I think they know Prince has a loyat fanbase and do not feel they need to spead a lot of money promoting the product. Prince sold 7.7 millions songs last year. More than anyone WB knows they can make a fourtune without having to spend much money.

Reply #121 posted 04/27/17 12:34pm

tmcjb

Militant said:

It's pretty insane that this has managed to get this far without a new press release that specified the release date and announced the tracklist officially. A dedicated website to capture email addresses for a mailing list wouldn't have hurt, either. Something... Anything!

If they wanted to do Beyonce style guerrila tactics they should have just dropped the full digital release out of nowhere, with the physical to follow.

I don't doubt that they'll do some promotion, but letting this go live without officially announcing any info and then just waiting for us to find it, is pretty bizarre.




They're probably waiting until Friday American time for the press release. iTunes updates at 11 PM in each time zone, and it's currently 1AM Friday in India. Official announcement will most likely come tomorrow.

"Like the drummer said, you got to die."
Reply #122 posted 04/27/17 12:35pm

SomeSoldier

Has anyone listened to the full song yet?

Reply #123 posted 04/27/17 12:37pm

OnlyNDaUsa

so 2200 yen is about $20 US and no mention of videos?

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #124 posted 04/27/17 12:40pm

IstenSzek

Militant said:

It's pretty insane that this has managed to get this far without a new press release that specified the release date and announced the tracklist officially. A dedicated website to capture email addresses for a mailing list wouldn't have hurt, either. Something... Anything!

If they wanted to do Beyonce style guerrila tactics they should have just dropped the full digital release out of nowhere, with the physical to follow.

I don't doubt that they'll do some promotion, but letting this go live without officially announcing any info and then just waiting for us to find it, is pretty bizarre.





exactly. if only for monetary reasons i would like to know the details of the physical release
compared to the digital one etc etc.

if the itunes store updates tonight at 11 MP in europe and i'll be able to pre-order this one,
it will be hard not to do so. but since the dvd's are not part of this pre-order, i feel like i'll
be better off waiting for an anouncement or anything from warners to see which package is
the most complete one and buy that, either physical or download.

it's just plain shitty that they don't release any official information at this point. confused

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #125 posted 04/27/17 12:42pm

Polo1026

Transformed1 said:

When looking at the Japan iTunes to (unsuccessfully) hear a snip of EI, I saw this...

https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/live-at-syracuse-30-mar-85-remastered/id1178372340?l=en

Remastered Syracuse 1985 concert. Looks official. Is this new? First I heard of it.

Edit...

This too...

https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/live-at-the-omni-atlanta-ga-usa-4-jan-1985-remastered/id1195883496?l=en

Cover art looks like its part of the Deluxe Purple Rain. I'm very sad if this means that there is no First Ave benefit concert debut of PR material (!!!)

[Edited 4/27/17 12:05pm]

Purple Patch records? Raspberry records? Nah fam.

Reply #126 posted 04/27/17 12:45pm

djThunderfunk

cool

Will wait for physical release, but very exciting...

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
Reply #127 posted 04/27/17 12:46pm

SayItsJustADream

IstenSzek said:

ok well that sounds....different biggrin i'm sure i'll love it once i've heard it a couple of times.
it's just a bit of a transition, from the live version. but i'm pretty sure i'll be obsessed with
it before long smile

yeahthat nod lol

Reply #128 posted 04/27/17 12:51pm

jstar69

SomeSoldier said:

Has anyone listened to the full song yet?



Yes - a little 1999 and different to the rehearsal versions we all know and love. Similar melody, and lyrics we all know. Vocal delivery a tad bizarre but I'm hooked
Reply #129 posted 04/27/17 12:53pm

FunkOnTheOne

Is there any logical reason that this isn't being released on 7th June?
Reply #130 posted 04/27/17 12:59pm

OnlyNDaUsa

djThunderfunk said:

cool

Will wait for physical release, but very exciting...

I think I will buy the Single and then get the physical... maybe even order it off amazon then pick it up at wal mart if there is a midnight release...or go to a release party?

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #131 posted 04/27/17 1:01pm

FragileUndertow

damn i cant wait to hear and buy this lol

Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
Reply #132 posted 04/27/17 1:07pm

siim



sad that there won't be two extra unreleased albums then.

bugger...

Reply #133 posted 04/27/17 1:07pm

getxxxx

FunkOnTheOne said:

Is there any logical reason that this isn't being released on 7th June?

June 7th is a Wednesday

Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman
Reply #134 posted 04/27/17 1:09pm

getxxxx

getxxxx said:

FunkOnTheOne said:

Is there any logical reason that this isn't being released on 7th June?

June 7th is a Wednesday

and June 23 is closer to the first release date June 25, 1984

Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman
Reply #135 posted 04/27/17 1:10pm

FunkOnTheOne

getxxxx said:

 



FunkOnTheOne said:


Is there any logical reason that this isn't being released on 7th June?

 


June 7th is a Wednesday



Sorry, I don't follow. What reason prevents record companies in this day and age from releasing an Album on a Wednesday?
Reply #136 posted 04/27/17 1:10pm

TwiliteKid

Militant said:

It's pretty insane that this has managed to get this far without a new press release that specified the release date and announced the tracklist officially. A dedicated website to capture email addresses for a mailing list wouldn't have hurt, either. Something... Anything!

If they wanted to do Beyonce style guerrila tactics they should have just dropped the full digital release out of nowhere, with the physical to follow.

I don't doubt that they'll do some promotion, but letting this go live without officially announcing any info and then just waiting for us to find it, is pretty bizarre.




I work for a digital agency that works closely with labels and artists. Digital services routinely spoil announce plans because of the way their automated updates work, but its a risk you have to take if you want the first single available when the press release goes out.



I guarantee there will be a blast tomorrow to formally announce.

[Edited 4/27/17 13:10pm]

Reply #137 posted 04/27/17 1:11pm

MiceElfAgin

They've slightly rotated the main photo on the new artwork counterclockwise – don't know why they felt the need to change it... I hate it when record companies mess up the artwork for rereleases. The smoke behind the bike is now darker too to make Prince stand out more.

The now silver background behind the flowers is OK to make the Extended Edition slightly different, but why did they have to mess with the main photo?...

Reply #138 posted 04/27/17 1:11pm

IstenSzek

siim said:



sad that there won't be two extra unreleased albums then.

bugger...


the physical package may include an audio cd for one of the two concerts?
if one of those two is an unreleased show, that would technically also be an
album of unreleased music.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #139 posted 04/27/17 1:13pm

OnlyNDaUsa

FunkOnTheOne said:

getxxxx said:

June 7th is a Wednesday

Sorry, I don't follow. What reason prevents record companies in this day and age from releasing an Album on a Wednesday?

nothing really. it used to be Tuesday then that got changed to Friday... it seems to be just to make it all uniform.

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #140 posted 04/27/17 1:15pm

TwiliteKid

IstenSzek said:

Militant said:

It's pretty insane that this has managed to get this far without a new press release that specified the release date and announced the tracklist officially. A dedicated website to capture email addresses for a mailing list wouldn't have hurt, either. Something... Anything!

If they wanted to do Beyonce style guerrila tactics they should have just dropped the full digital release out of nowhere, with the physical to follow.

I don't doubt that they'll do some promotion, but letting this go live without officially announcing any info and then just waiting for us to find it, is pretty bizarre.





exactly. if only for monetary reasons i would like to know the details of the physical release
compared to the digital one etc etc.

if the itunes store updates tonight at 11 MP in europe and i'll be able to pre-order this one,
it will be hard not to do so. but since the dvd's are not part of this pre-order, i feel like i'll
be better off waiting for an anouncement or anything from warners to see which package is
the most complete one and buy that, either physical or download.

it's just plain shitty that they don't release any official information at this point. confused

Patience, grasshopper. And for the record - you can always cancel an iTunes pre-order.

Reply #141 posted 04/27/17 1:17pm

SomeSoldier

IstenSzek said:

siim said:



sad that there won't be two extra unreleased albums then.

bugger...


the physical package may include an audio cd for one of the two concerts?
if one of those two is an unreleased show, that would technically also be an
album of unreleased music.

I thought that too, but why wouldn't they make it available on itunes as well?

Reply #142 posted 04/27/17 1:26pm

Loefie

djThunderfunk said:

cool

Will wait for physical release, but very exciting...



Me too, allthough it's pretty hard to stand the curiosity.

Thanks Militant for the scoops!!
Produced, Arranged, Composed & Performed by PRINCE


"Rotterdam, we come to jam!"
Reply #143 posted 04/27/17 1:27pm

Crump

IstenSzek said:

ok well that sounds....different biggrin i'm sure i'll love it once i've heard it a couple of times.
it's just a bit of a transition, from the live version. but i'm pretty sure i'll be obsessed with
it before long smile


Yeah, I suspected the studio would be a shocker but sure it will grow on me.

It was great when he played it at the Birmingham show and you could hear gasps from the hardcore cool

Reply #144 posted 04/27/17 1:33pm

SquirrelMeat

I'm interested in the sound quality. When I saw the track list, I had a feeling that the unreleased material may end up the same quality as Moonbeam Levels.

I put this down to the fact that the track listings read like a bootleg list, rather than how Prince might describe them. e.g., why does Electric Intercourse need "Studio Version" as a sub title, when its never been released?

And what are the chances that Computer Blue would be listed as 'hallway version' rather than 'long version', 'full version' or simply 'unreleased version'?

Hmmm...

.
Reply #145 posted 04/27/17 1:34pm

paulludvig

Anywhere to hear EI without itunes?

The wooh is on the one!
Reply #146 posted 04/27/17 1:40pm

OnlyNDaUsa

...

[Edited 4/27/17 13:40pm]

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #147 posted 04/27/17 1:40pm

IstenSzek

SquirrelMeat said:

I'm interested in the sound quality. When I saw the track list, I had a feeling that the unreleased material may end up the same quality as Moonbeam Levels.

I put this down to the fact that the track listings read like a bootleg list, rather than how Prince might describe them. e.g., why does Electric Intercourse need "Studio Version" as a sub title, when its never been released?

And what are the chances that Computer Blue would be listed as 'hallway version' rather than 'long version', 'full version' or simply 'unreleased version'?

Hmmm...



the tracklist reads like it's specifically geared toward hardcore fans lol

i've already given up on soundquality for now and figured that in a few
years, once the estate is settled and people go into the actual vault to
curate new releases from the actual tapes in there, we'll have to make
do with whatever warners had knocking about in a drawer somewhere.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #148 posted 04/27/17 1:45pm

Revolution81

I love this, this tops any of the other versions IMO

Reply #149 posted 04/27/17 1:51pm

2020

Frst off nice job Militant!

The studio version is a bit more uptempo and took a minute to adjust too...I think I prefer the more slowed down blues version we've all come to know. However, I cant wait to hear the entire thing

Regardless it makes for an awesome birthday present! Thanks P - as always....

[Edited 4/27/17 13:52pm]

The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.

Remember there is only one destination and that place is U
All of it. Everything. Is U.
Reply #150 posted 04/27/17 1:58pm

Phishanga

Heard the snippet now, the vocals are great... I'm glad the studio version is different, we still have the live version in pretty good quality - so two to choose from.

Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
Reply #151 posted 04/27/17 1:59pm

eyewishuheaven

MiceElfAgin said:

The now silver background behind the flowers is OK to make the Extended Edition slightly different, but why did they have to mess with the main photo?...


I noticed this as well. It's possible the silver gradient is there to indicate that the actual physical release will be foil-printed in that area. Seen it before.

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #152 posted 04/27/17 1:59pm

Militant

moderator

TwiliteKid said:

Militant said:

It's pretty insane that this has managed to get this far without a new press release that specified the release date and announced the tracklist officially. A dedicated website to capture email addresses for a mailing list wouldn't have hurt, either. Something... Anything!

If they wanted to do Beyonce style guerrila tactics they should have just dropped the full digital release out of nowhere, with the physical to follow.

I don't doubt that they'll do some promotion, but letting this go live without officially announcing any info and then just waiting for us to find it, is pretty bizarre.




I work for a digital agency that works closely with labels and artists. Digital services routinely spoil announce plans because of the way their automated updates work, but its a risk you have to take if you want the first single available when the press release goes out.



I guarantee there will be a blast tomorrow to formally announce.

[Edited 4/27/17 13:10pm]


Ah, awesome. Which agency?

I did a release through Ingrooves a few years back, and I vaguely remember that it was tough to keep track of this kind of stuff. All the material was submitted at the same time, but certain services needed a much longer processing time.

That said, at the very least they ought to have publicly acknowledged the release by now, even a tweet wouldn't gone amiss.


Reply #153 posted 04/27/17 2:01pm

lust

Grabbed it and I loves it I do.

Made my eyeballs all sweaty.
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
Reply #154 posted 04/27/17 2:01pm

MiceElfAgin

eyewishuheaven said:

MiceElfAgin said:

The now silver background behind the flowers is OK to make the Extended Edition slightly different, but why did they have to mess with the main photo?...


I noticed this as well. It's possible the silver gradient is there to indicate that the actual physical release will be foil-printed in that area. Seen it before.

.
Perhaps – but there's no excuse for rotating the main photo.

Reply #155 posted 04/27/17 2:04pm

purpleprime

just hope its not cased in a cardboard digipak...as i hate them...they wear and tear far too quickly....

Reply #156 posted 04/27/17 2:05pm

eyewishuheaven

MiceElfAgin said:

eyewishuheaven said:


I noticed this as well. It's possible the silver gradient is there to indicate that the actual physical release will be foil-printed in that area. Seen it before.

.
Perhaps – but there's no excuse for rotating the main photo.


I agree. Lucky for me, I've got a 2' square poster of the album art. cool

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #157 posted 04/27/17 2:05pm

FragileUndertow

Just heard the clip of Electric Intercourse eek

I love the live slow version we all know. The studio version sounds cool tho cool

Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
Reply #158 posted 04/27/17 2:11pm

love2thenines2003

Incredible at this stage not a single word from Warner?
Reply #159 posted 04/27/17 2:17pm

BoraBora

Probably I'm in the minority, but I strongly prefer the studio version of EL to the live version.

Finally an outtake long-waited that actually delivers the quality hoped.

To me it's an istant classic.


Reply #160 posted 04/27/17 2:18pm

IstenSzek

the whole song is available for 1,29 euros in the dutch itunes store now.

and it's glorious cool music

the whole thing is slightly off kilter compared to the live version and it's
gonna take some getting used to. but it's gorgeous. and after all, we've
already got the live version since forever.

soundquality is great on my headphones too nod

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #161 posted 04/27/17 2:22pm

paulludvig

Really frustrating not to be able to hear this. confused
The wooh is on the one!
Reply #162 posted 04/27/17 2:27pm

fabriziovenerandi

Available in Italy too (I'm downloading it).

The digital deluxe version is 14,99.

The expanded 19,99.

Release date 23/06/17

Reply #163 posted 04/27/17 2:34pm

jstar69

Very impressed with sound quality of EI... and loving his classic screams! Love love love
[Edited 4/27/17 14:35pm]
Reply #164 posted 04/27/17 2:36pm

siim

available in Estonia too.
I love the studio version. Pure weird Paisley psyhcedelia.

Much better than live, thou it's good as well.

Amazing

Reply #165 posted 04/27/17 2:39pm

fabriziovenerandi

siim said:

available in Estonia too.
I love the studio version. Pure weird Paisley psyhcedelia.

Much better than live, thou it's good as well.

Amazing

+1

A lot of voices and screams. It remember me the Controversy/1999 era more than the Purple Rain one.

A very nice tune, keyboard '80 vibe.

Reply #166 posted 04/27/17 2:40pm

jstar69

Also available to stream on Apple Music
Reply #167 posted 04/27/17 2:41pm

SomeSoldier

So it's available in continental Europe? It will hopefully make it to the UK within an hour then...
Reply #168 posted 04/27/17 2:43pm

214

Is really exciting, this is my first experience with Prince. I look forward to buy this set.

Reply #169 posted 04/27/17 2:43pm

jjam

I like it a lot but it does feel somewhat unfinished...

Reply #170 posted 04/27/17 2:45pm

FragileUndertow

music Electric Intrtcourse (full version)

Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
Reply #171 posted 04/27/17 2:45pm

paulludvig

Love this version!
The wooh is on the one!
Reply #172 posted 04/27/17 2:46pm

Electric2k

jjam said:

I like it a lot but it does feel somewhat unfinished...

Yeah, this. My first impression is closer to "Umm yeah, I see why this was never released" rather than "Wow it's finally here."

Hopefully this version will grow on me.

Reply #173 posted 04/27/17 2:48pm

paulludvig

Sounds like something that would fit more on 1999.
The wooh is on the one!
Reply #174 posted 04/27/17 2:52pm

imprimis

Quite apparently recorded entirely in the studio from scratch, and not a version that even partially retains the First Avenue live multitrack recording (unlike 'I Would Die 4 U')-- and likely to have been recorded before that performance previewed the song.

.

[Edited 4/27/17 14:59pm]

Reply #175 posted 04/27/17 2:56pm

Xpertlover

The studio version of Electric Intercourse - absolutely amazing! Instant classic.
"How embarrasing to be human!"
- Kurt Vonnegut, 'Hocus Pocus'
Reply #176 posted 04/27/17 2:58pm

AnnaSantana

I'm in the US, when I click "play" on Spotify, it says "song not available."

sad

Just fun....nothing ethereal.
Reply #177 posted 04/27/17 2:59pm

IstenSzek

paulludvig said:

Sounds like something that would fit more on 1999.


probably because it seems to be all prince by himself, with none of that revolution pr sauce
over the top of it.

whatever period it sounds like, it's gorgeous love

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #178 posted 04/27/17 3:00pm

SomeSoldier

Ok, at some point I hope we will get a pristine copy of the live version of the song. But this... this is amazing!
Reply #179 posted 04/27/17 3:02pm

AfricaCaptainCrunch

Any news on the content of the dvds? It should be the 1st Ave Aug 83 and 84 bday shows. But I was dreaming when I typed this......

Reply #180 posted 04/27/17 3:02pm

dance4me3121

Is the album available to pre order on Amazon yet?
Reply #181 posted 04/27/17 3:03pm

imprimis

'The Beautiful Ones' is a vastly superior effort, although this would still be an acceptable album track (although not necessarily with respect to the completed Purple Rain album). The song is a little too 'busy'. It seems somewhere in the post-1999, pre-PR range in terms of the development of his sound.

.

[Edited 4/27/17 15:04pm]

Reply #182 posted 04/27/17 3:05pm

E319

OnlyNDaUsa said:

to hear the 1.5 min sample click on store then go the the bottom and click change country and Japan is like 3 sub-lists below... then search "purple rain deluxe" and then look a little down mine was on the left and click that image to see the full list...

So i was 100% wrong! it sounds like a totally new recording.


Thanks for the excellent instructions that allowed me to hear the snippet from the U.S.


It sounded cool but different. Judging it just on the sample, it does sound unfinished and badly in need of a bass part to fill out the sound. I'm hoping that we also get the First Avenue Debut show with high quality audio so that we can have both the live version (which right now I prefer to the studio snippet) as well as the studio version.


Also prefer how Prince does the live version with the vocals in a lower register as opposed to the falsetto in the studio version... But those screams on the studio version were VINTAGE Purple Rain Era Prince.

[Edited 4/27/17 15:05pm]

[Edited 4/27/17 15:06pm]

Reply #183 posted 04/27/17 3:06pm

djThunderfunk

SquirrelMeat said:

I'm interested in the sound quality. When I saw the track list, I had a feeling that the unreleased material may end up the same quality as Moonbeam Levels.

I put this down to the fact that the track listings read like a bootleg list, rather than how Prince might describe them. e.g., why does Electric Intercourse need "Studio Version" as a sub title, when its never been released?

And what are the chances that Computer Blue would be listed as 'hallway version' rather than 'long version', 'full version' or simply 'unreleased version'?

Hmmm...


Everything you said here... x 2. wink wink

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
Reply #184 posted 04/27/17 3:07pm

NewpowerScarfo

dance4me3121 said:

Is the album available to pre order on Amazon yet?

Nope.

Reply #185 posted 04/27/17 3:08pm

Militant

moderator

Full version now available for stream on Spotify too (at least, in Holland - my girlfriend is Dutch and it's playing on her account, but not my UK account yet).

Interesting how different the vocal melody is to the live version.

Reply #186 posted 04/27/17 3:08pm

thegamecock

imprimis said:

Quite apparently recorded entirely in the studio from scratch, and not a version that even partially retains the First Avenue live multitrack recording (unlike 'I Would Die 4 U'), and likely to have been recorded before that performance previewed the song.

[Edited 4/27/17 14:55pm]

I'm in agreement. It's odd the rest of the "new" songs unveiled that night were extremely close to the final product, with 2 songs pretty much being the final product. Also, I can't see this as ever being in the movie spot that The Beautiful Ones was, which is pretty accepted as true.

I think this is a very early/demo version, and I still think there is another version out there, probably a mastered version of the First Ave performance ala Purple Rain. THAT would have fit perfectly into the movie into The Beautiful Ones slot.

Reply #187 posted 04/27/17 3:09pm

maceoparker007

NewpowerScarfo said:

dance4me3121 said:

Is the album available to pre order on Amazon yet?

Nope.

BUMMER...you cant beat CD quality. Screw compressed digital downloads!

Reply #188 posted 04/27/17 3:12pm

FragileUndertow

SquirrelMeat said:

why does Electric Intercourse need "Studio Version" as a sub title, when its never been released?

And what are the chances that Computer Blue would be listed as 'hallway version' rather than 'long version', 'full version' or simply 'unreleased version'?

Hmmm...

Perhaps if they ever deside to release a live or rehersal version via dvd/cd in the future lol

Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
Reply #189 posted 04/27/17 3:13pm

E319

FragileUndertow said:

Perhaps if they ever deside to release a live or rehersal version via dvd/cd in the future lol

Good point! Hopefully this means we will get the live version on cd too! pray

Reply #190 posted 04/27/17 3:18pm

MIRvmn

I love the studio version of Electric Intercourse cool
Thunder, all through the night
Promise to see Jesus in the morning light
Take my hand, it'll be alright
C'mon save your soul tonight
Reply #191 posted 04/27/17 3:20pm

imprimis

thegamecock said:

imprimis said:

Quite apparently recorded entirely in the studio from scratch, and not a version that even partially retains the First Avenue live multitrack recording (unlike 'I Would Die 4 U'), and likely to have been recorded before that performance previewed the song.

[Edited 4/27/17 14:55pm]

I'm in agreement. It's odd the rest of the "new" songs unveiled that night were extremely close to the final product, with 2 songs pretty much being the final product. Also, I can't see this as ever being in the movie spot that The Beautiful Ones was, which is pretty accepted as true.

I think this is a very early/demo version, and I still think there is another version out there, probably a mastered version of the First Ave performance ala Purple Rain. THAT would have fit perfectly into the movie into The Beautiful Ones slot.

.

This is very 1983 Prince; its hasty production, and the drum programming both remind me of the 1982 'Lust U Always'. The final PR album accomplishes an emergent sound that makes some appreciable headway beyond these types of efforts.

.

I'd say the version here is essentially a completed track, although he may well have been in the process of cleaning up the First Avenue peformance for use in the film until he recorded the better suited 'The Beautiful Ones'.

.

It's [happenstantially] almost a proto-'Pretty Wild Girl' from the AC album.

.

[Edited 4/27/17 15:32pm]

Reply #192 posted 04/27/17 3:22pm

AfricaCaptainCrunch

Polo1026 said:

Transformed1 said:

When looking at the Japan iTunes to (unsuccessfully) hear a snip of EI, I saw this...

https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/live-at-syracuse-30-mar-85-remastered/id1178372340?l=en

Remastered Syracuse 1985 concert. Looks official. Is this new? First I heard of it.

Edit...

This too...

https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/live-at-the-omni-atlanta-ga-usa-4-jan-1985-remastered/id1195883496?l=en

Cover art looks like its part of the Deluxe Purple Rain. I'm very sad if this means that there is no First Ave benefit concert debut of PR material (!!!)

[Edited 4/27/17 12:05pm]

Purple Patch records? Raspberry records? Nah fam.

The Syracuse show is the vhs release from years past. It was the only officially released PR tour show. Omni Atlanta has been available as an official audio soundboard. It might also be available as video unofficially but I'm unsure? If true, this is one of the two shows I feared they would include as the dvd concerts instead of the 83 1st Ave show which should absolutely be included since no less than 3 songs were recorded at that show for the PR album. Very disappointing but not unexpected.

Reply #193 posted 04/27/17 3:27pm

love2thenines2003

Xpertlover said:

The studio version of Electric Intercourse - absolutely amazing! Instant classic.

Astonishing...wonderful. ..marvelous classic Prince Trax. ...this Trax was waiting 4 us during more than 30 years....Prince is GOD. ..i'M in tears Girls and Boys of the purple underground!

Thanks Prince. ...what a Present !
Reply #194 posted 04/27/17 3:30pm

E319

AfricaCaptainCrunch said:

Polo1026 said:

Purple Patch records? Raspberry records? Nah fam.

The Syracuse show is the vhs release from years past. It was the only officially released PR tour show. Omni Atlanta has been available as an official audio soundboard. It might also be available as video unofficially but I'm unsure? If true, this is one of the two shows I feared they would include as the dvd concerts instead of the 83 1st Ave show which should absolutely be included since no less than 3 songs were recorded at that show for the PR album. Very disappointing but not unexpected.


If you click on the links and look at the release dates, you will see that these releases are bootlegs that were released long ago and have nothing to do with the Purple Rain Deluxe release.

Reply #195 posted 04/27/17 3:34pm

OnlyNDaUsa

digging the full version...

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #196 posted 04/27/17 3:35pm

E319

After listening to the entire studio version of "Electric Intercourse" like 6 or 7 times in a row... It's beautiful. Different, but beautiful and amazing and classic Prince... Really happy that it will finally be released for all to enjoy and marvel at.... But I think I still prefer the live version. I think it's superior and hope we get that in pristine quality too.

Reply #197 posted 04/27/17 3:46pm

SomeSoldier

I've read that it lacks a bit of bass and I agree, and the vocal arrangement is a bit bizarre (would have worked better sung in his lower register). But the piano at the beginning (and all throughout) is absolutely stunning. It reminds me of Lust U Always, Extraloveable and even If The Kid Can't Make U Come. It takes a bit of adjusting, but I really love this!
Reply #198 posted 04/27/17 3:47pm

TheEnglishGent

Just listened through a couple of times, first time was weird, quite different to what we know from the live versions. Second time I got goose bumps listening to the details in his vocal, also I'm loving the piano and the ending is great. So many parallels here to the Beautiful Ones and I can see how that was the track which replaced this. The Beautiful Ones is definitely a more powerful track and works far better on the album than this would have, I can see why it was taken out.

And if this is any indication of the state of the vault tracks, in terms of the rumours of the tapes deteriorating then we don't seem to have much to worry about. This sounds great.

RIP sad
Reply #199 posted 04/27/17 3:48pm

RicoN

Fucking iTunes. I wouldn't touch it with a shitty stick.
Yes, I've probably made a spelling mistake, but I can't be arsed to go back and correc tit.
Reply #200 posted 04/27/17 3:52pm

FunkyStrange

RicoN said:

Fucking iTunes. I wouldn't touch it with a shitty stick.

Same here, I had one encounter with that garbage program many many years ago and have never touched it since...

Reply #201 posted 04/27/17 3:55pm

Revolution81

TheEnglishGent said:

Just listened through a couple of times, first time was weird, quite different to what we know from the live versions. Second time I got goose bumps listening to the details in his vocal, also I'm loving the piano and the ending is great. So many parallels here to the Beautiful Ones and I can see how that was the track which replaced this. The Beautiful Ones is definitely a more powerful track and works far better on the album than this would have, I can see why it was taken out.

And if this is any indication of the state of the vault tracks, in terms of the rumours of the tapes deteriorating then we don't seem to have much to worry about. This sounds great.


I don't think this is from the PP vaults. It has some similar tape artifacts as Moonbeam. I reckon this is from warners tapes, despite what they may say
[Edited 4/27/17 15:55pm]
Reply #202 posted 04/27/17 3:55pm

Wolfie87

FunkyStrange said:

RicoN said:

Fucking iTunes. I wouldn't touch it with a shitty stick.

Same here, I had one encounter with that garbage program many many years ago and have never touched it since...

Same. I'm like "Apple, you had your spotlight eight years ago. What the fuck have you done for me lately!"

Reply #203 posted 04/27/17 3:56pm

SignOthetimes1987

They don't have it in US iTunes yet.

Damn, curious.

EDIT: just saw the above post on how to access the Japanese store. Thanks.

[Edited 4/27/17 15:59pm]

Reply #204 posted 04/27/17 3:57pm

IstenSzek

SignOthetimes1987 said:

They don't have it in US iTunes yet.

Damn, curious.

each country seems to get it on itunes at 11 MP april 27th. so just a bit more of a wait in the us i think.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #205 posted 04/27/17 3:58pm

FragileUndertow

Show of hands

wave

Listening to the studio version how many of you were expecting or wating for the extended screams that we hear on the First Ave recording?

You know which part in refering to lol

Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
Reply #206 posted 04/27/17 3:59pm

JudasSmile

Wow. The studio version is beautiful.

U been bamboozled, hoodwinked, took.
Reply #207 posted 04/27/17 3:59pm

TheEnglishGent

IstenSzek said:

SignOthetimes1987 said:

They don't have it in US iTunes yet.

Damn, curious.

each country seems to get it on itunes at 11 MP april 27th. so just a bit more of a wait in the us i think.

Not the UK. I'm wondering if it'll be midnight, which is 11pm GMT? Hanging on for a few minutes to buy it before going to bed cool. If it doesn't turn up in the next 5 minutes though I'm gonna have to pay for it in the morning.

RIP sad
Reply #208 posted 04/27/17 4:03pm

Crump

UK HAS IT eek

Reply #209 posted 04/27/17 4:06pm

RaspBerryGirlFriend

Yeah just got released in the UK, listening now, pretty fucking incredible to finally get this, can't wait for the whole set, roll on June 23rd!

Heavenly wine and roses seems to whisper to me when you smile...
Always cry for love, never cry for pain...
Reply #210 posted 04/27/17 4:06pm

jaawwnn

hey this is great!

Reply #211 posted 04/27/17 4:07pm

PurpleYoda3121

Damnit, the wait here in the US is killing me.
U fall in love 2 fast and hate 2 soon
And take 4 granted the feeling’s mutual
Reply #212 posted 04/27/17 4:09pm

RaspBerryGirlFriend

Wolfie87 said:

FunkyStrange said:

Same here, I had one encounter with that garbage program many many years ago and have never touched it since...

Same. I'm like "Apple, you had your spotlight eight years ago. What the fuck have you done for me lately!"

iTunes is a laggy piece of crap software (on Windows at least, I hear it's better on Mac but I don't have one so haven't experienced it) but once you've bought the song in the store you can just download it, find it in Windows Explorer and then use something else to listen to.

Heavenly wine and roses seems to whisper to me when you smile...
Always cry for love, never cry for pain...
Reply #213 posted 04/27/17 4:09pm

TheEnglishGent

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

Yeah just got released in the UK, listening now, pretty fucking incredible to finally get this, can't wait for the whole set, roll on June 23rd!


Yep, paid my 99p and now I'm going to bed. Loving the track, can't wait for the 23rd.

RIP sad
Reply #214 posted 04/27/17 4:13pm

Militant

moderator

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

Wolfie87 said:

Same. I'm like "Apple, you had your spotlight eight years ago. What the fuck have you done for me lately!"

iTunes is a laggy piece of crap software (on Windows at least, I hear it's better on Mac but I don't have one so haven't experienced it) but once you've bought the song in the store you can just download it, find it in Windows Explorer and then use something else to listen to.


My home desktop machine is Windows 10, my work machine is a Macbook Pro. Honestly, iTunes isn't much better on a Mac. Still a bloated laggy mess. Them forcing Apple Music inside it hasn't helped matters.



Reply #215 posted 04/27/17 4:16pm

Crump

Does anyone know what "Mastered for iTunes" means?

£17.99 just for the download audio sugggests the whole set with DVD's £50 ish

I wouldn't be surprised if we just get Syracuse but hopefully find out tomorrow.

Reply #216 posted 04/27/17 4:31pm

dandan

Well I'll be damned. That is NOT what I would have expected the studio version of Electric Intercourse to sound like. It's so different, yet beautiful in it's own way.

It finally puts to bed the question of whether he should have put Electric Intercourse in place of The Beautiful One. The answer is... HELL NO! The Beautiful Ones is superior in almost every conceivable way compared to this.

[Edited 4/27/17 16:34pm]

I got two sides... and they're both friends.
Reply #217 posted 04/27/17 4:34pm

BoraBora

Excuse me if it was already noted.....

... but the fact that we have "Electric Intercourse (Studio Version)" to me implies that in one of the 2 live CDS in the set there is also one "Electric Intercourse (Live Version)".

Fingers crossed for the First Avenue 1983 concert.


Reply #218 posted 04/27/17 4:39pm

highcalonic

Militant said:

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

iTunes is a laggy piece of crap software (on Windows at least, I hear it's better on Mac but I don't have one so haven't experienced it) but once you've bought the song in the store you can just download it, find it in Windows Explorer and then use something else to listen to.


My home desktop machine is Windows 10, my work machine is a Macbook Pro. Honestly, iTunes isn't much better on a Mac. Still a bloated laggy mess. Them forcing Apple Music inside it hasn't helped matters.



iTunes works great and is fast on my MacBookPro or MacBookAir. And you can deactivate Apple Music from it...

"You can skate around the issue if you like,
But who's gonna get you high in the middle of the night?"
Reply #219 posted 04/27/17 4:41pm

ForceofNature

highcalonic said:

Militant said:


My home desktop machine is Windows 10, my work machine is a Macbook Pro. Honestly, iTunes isn't much better on a Mac. Still a bloated laggy mess. Them forcing Apple Music inside it hasn't helped matters.



iTunes works great and is fast on my MacBookPro or MacBookAir. And you can deactivate Apple Music from it...

True, I have been using iTunes since I think around 2005 and honestly I have never had a single issue with getting it to run how I want it to run and how I want it to look

Reply #220 posted 04/27/17 4:41pm

SquirrelMeat

OK, just listened to the full thing on Spotify. Loved it. I would sound a bit 'raw' had this version made PR. My guess is he knew it was going to be replaced before the final mix.

Also suprised the drum is a 1,2, rather than a 1, 3,4 that he typically puts on tracks like these.

.
Reply #221 posted 04/27/17 4:42pm

KingSausage

GOD DAMMIT I NEED TO HEAR THIS IMMEDIATELY


Also, Militant, you are the man!
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #222 posted 04/27/17 4:52pm

ForceofNature

I wonder if its possible Prince had this studio version laying around but the actual version that was going to be on Purple Rain was a version like the other First Avenue tracks where there were overdubs and edits added to that version? I am curious because there were heavy rumors of that being the case and as far as I know a full studio version wasn't even something we knew existed right?

Reply #223 posted 04/27/17 4:52pm

KlyphIsBackAgain

Once you forget about the live version this one becomes epic.... also, cheap headphones don't do it justice at all!!
Reply #224 posted 04/27/17 4:54pm

mrdxw1213

So my earlier post was right?
I feel some kind of love 4 U
I don't know your name
This is the kind of love that takes 2
I want U and I'm not ashamed
Reply #225 posted 04/27/17 4:56pm

KingSausage

Holy hell, this is fantastic. FANTASTIC.

"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #226 posted 04/27/17 4:57pm

KlyphIsBackAgain

KingSausage said:

Holy hell, this is fantastic. FANTASTIC.



YES!
Reply #227 posted 04/27/17 4:57pm

dannyd5050

omg I'm not used to it!! That's what years of listening to bootlegs gets me. duh

Reply #228 posted 04/27/17 4:58pm

KingSausage

Holy crap. Just, wow. WOW.

"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #229 posted 04/27/17 5:00pm

mrmaxwell

Crump said:

Now we just need DETAILS ON THE TWO DVD'S!!!

I really hope for cleaned up First Av show now as not feeling the studio Electric Intercourse neutral


Me too!

It is amazing to finally hear the studio version and it sounds great but the emotion from the First Avenue benefit show cannot be matched!

Reply #230 posted 04/27/17 5:03pm

mrmaxwell

Militant said:

And as you can see, it confirms my earlier leak smile


Thanks for all the info and updates unlike WB who have vanished from the face of the Earth!!!

You would think their care factor about this project was ZERO!

Reply #231 posted 04/27/17 5:04pm

ForceofNature

KingSausage said:

Holy crap. Just, wow. WOW.

My words exactly haha this is a great version of the song. It took me aback at first because its so different than the live version but I love Prince's high range in this vocally, it knocks it out of the park. Especially with headphones its a trip

Reply #232 posted 04/27/17 5:04pm

AfricaCaptainCrunch

E319 said:

 



AfricaCaptainCrunch said:


 



Polo1026 said:


 


 


Purple Patch records? Raspberry records? Nah fam.



The Syracuse show is the vhs release from years past.  It was the only officially released PR tour show.  Omni Atlanta has been available as an official audio soundboard.  It might also be available as video unofficially but I'm unsure?  If true, this is one of the two shows I feared they would include as the dvd concerts instead of the 83 1st Ave show which should absolutely be included since no less than 3 songs were recorded at that show for the PR album.  Very disappointing but not unexpected.



 



If you click on the links and look at the release dates, you will see that these releases are bootlegs that were released long ago and have nothing to do with the Purple Rain Deluxe release.



You're right. The fact that the photo was from the Nude Tour made it highly suspect. Still not convinced they won't screw up the DVD releases though esp when they thought fans would want a disc of mostly edits
Reply #233 posted 04/27/17 5:06pm

Haystack

Bloody hell!!! Finally hearing Electric Intercourse officially.

Life is good!
Reply #234 posted 04/27/17 5:14pm

sulls

I am totally f**kin' blown away

"I like to watch."
Reply #235 posted 04/27/17 5:15pm

KlyphIsBackAgain

The live version sounds like a love song... this one sounds like a "I wanna fuck the hell outta you" song lol
Reply #236 posted 04/27/17 5:19pm

KingSausage

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

The live version sounds like a love song... this one sounds like a "I wanna fuck the hell outta you" song lol



I almost fucked the hell outta my speakers.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #237 posted 04/27/17 5:31pm

KlyphIsBackAgain

KingSausage said:

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

The live version sounds like a love song... this one sounds like a "I wanna fuck the hell outta you" song lol



I almost fucked the hell outta my speakers.


Sir, put that sausage down right now!
Reply #238 posted 04/27/17 5:32pm

NewpowerScarfo

PurpleYoda3121 said:

Damnit, the wait here in the US is killing me.

Considering folks from overseas are able to stream the song from itunes, it's an safe bet we bloaks in the US should be able to tomorrow. Hopefully the pre order for Purple Rain Deluxe Edition (cd ) will go live tomorrow as well.

[Edited 4/27/17 17:33pm]

Reply #239 posted 04/27/17 5:40pm

SquirrelMeat

KingSausage said:

KlyphIsBackAgain said:
The live version sounds like a love song... this one sounds like a "I wanna fuck the hell outta you" song lol
I almost fucked the hell outta my speakers.


Almost? I was by the first chorus. lol

.
Reply #240 posted 04/27/17 5:49pm

bonatoc

If anyone at WB is reading: stick to Bernie Grundman for the mastering of the next Deluxe albums.
I mean kidnap and lock the guy in the Vault for the next decade, and have him remaster the whole eighties material.
He truly knows how to bring the best out of Prince's studio work. He knows what analog sound means, and I wonder if we're going to have the chance to get a vinyl out of this. AAA would be a miracle, but judging by this, AD/DA will do as well.
I'm sorry, but Paisley Park never sounded that good.
Nothing beats the Kiowa Trail and the Sunset Sound consoles.

This, or rather, these vocal deliveries leave me speechless.
The Kid will continue to astonish music lovers long after he's gone.

Africa, Cap'n Crunch, Norma Jean, Sex and Cheerio's
Play my record double speed, feel the climax fit 4 a king
Reply #241 posted 04/27/17 5:49pm

bluegangsta

As addictive as the studio version of Electric Intercourse is, it does make me want the First Avenue concert just that little bit more.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #242 posted 04/27/17 5:50pm

KingSausage

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

KingSausage said:




I almost fucked the hell outta my speakers.


Sir, put that sausage down right now!



Don't worry, I plugged the bungs first!
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #243 posted 04/27/17 5:50pm

bluegangsta

I wonder if there is an alternate version based on the live version (with the addition of strings), or if that was just a fan theory that's been taken as fact after all these years.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #244 posted 04/27/17 5:52pm

bluegangsta

KingSausage said:

KlyphIsBackAgain said:
The live version sounds like a love song... this one sounds like a "I wanna fuck the hell outta you" song lol
I almost fucked the hell outta my speakers.

Audiophile.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #245 posted 04/27/17 5:52pm

McD

On two listens (courtesy of Spotify UK) I'm not overly impressed.

It just doesn't sound like a genuinely finished piece, nevermind a contender for Purple Rain. As a few have said, it sounds 1999-era. I can only guess there's another version in the Vault if a finished recording if this was seriously considered.

Here's hoping it gets joined by a pristine audio version of the live '83 rehearsal.
Reply #246 posted 04/27/17 5:53pm

NewpowerScarfo

Ok, I just listened to this version of Electric Intercourse, and it's amazing. Fun fact, we've heard the beat of this version before in the movie Purple Rain. It's the scene when the girl is crying backwards on a cassette tape the Kid was playing for Apollonia( before the instrumental to God is played). Play that scene and you'll see what I mean.

Reply #247 posted 04/27/17 5:56pm

OnlyNDaUsa

NewpowerScarfo said:

Ok, I just listened to this version of Electric Intercourse, and it's amazing. Fun fact, we've heard the beat of this version before in the movie Purple Rain. It's the scene when the girl is crying backwards on a cassette tape the Kid was playing for Apollonia( before the instrumental to God is played). Play that scene and you'll see what I mean.

oh wow good call

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #248 posted 04/27/17 5:58pm

SquirrelMeat

bluegangsta said:

As addictive as the studio version of Electric Intercourse is, it does make me want the First Avenue concert just that little bit more.


The studio version is certainly addictive, but not as powerful. It's always hard to tell as we usually gavitate to the version we heard first....but I've got a gut feel, based on the sheer power of the live delivery at First Avenue, that an overdubbed live version would have been the album cut.

This studio version has more production similarity with Moonbeam Levels than it does The Beautiful Ones. It sounds an earlier production. In fact, when the beat kicks it, I can almost here ' Yesterday I tried to write a novel'.

.
Reply #249 posted 04/27/17 5:58pm

NewpowerScarfo

OnlyNDaUsa said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

Ok, I just listened to this version of Electric Intercourse, and it's amazing. Fun fact, we've heard the beat of this version before in the movie Purple Rain. It's the scene when the girl is crying backwards on a cassette tape the Kid was playing for Apollonia( before the instrumental to God is played). Play that scene and you'll see what I mean.

oh wow good call

^_^

Reply #250 posted 04/27/17 6:06pm

bluegangsta

SquirrelMeat said:

bluegangsta said:

As addictive as the studio version of Electric Intercourse is, it does make me want the First Avenue concert just that little bit more.


The studio version is certainly addictive, but not as powerful. It's always hard to tell as we usually gavitate to the version we heard first....but I've got a gut feel, based on the sheer power of the live delivery at First Avenue, that an overdubbed live version would have been the album cut.

This studio version has more production similarity with Moonbeam Levels than it does The Beautiful Ones. It sounds an earlier production. In fact, when the beat kicks it, I can almost here ' Yesterday I tried to write a novel'.

Agreed! This version is great. It' suniquely Prince -something only he could get away with.

The live version though, features possibly the best live vocals Prince has ever delivered, but also some of the best playing by the Revolution.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #251 posted 04/27/17 6:09pm

mrmaxwell

bluegangsta said:

SquirrelMeat said:


The studio version is certainly addictive, but not as powerful. It's always hard to tell as we usually gavitate to the version we heard first....but I've got a gut feel, based on the sheer power of the live delivery at First Avenue, that an overdubbed live version would have been the album cut.

This studio version has more production similarity with Moonbeam Levels than it does The Beautiful Ones. It sounds an earlier production. In fact, when the beat kicks it, I can almost here ' Yesterday I tried to write a novel'.

Agreed! This version is great. It' suniquely Prince -something only he could get away with.

The live version though, features possibly the best live vocals Prince has ever delivered, but also some of the best playing by the Revolution.


We already knew about the best live vocals from the Purple Rain album cut right?

The kid was in fine form that hot August night smile

Reply #252 posted 04/27/17 6:12pm

E319

NewpowerScarfo said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

oh wow good call

^_^

There are some similarities but they are not the same beat. In the video below, the music you guys are referring to starts at about 0:25.

Reply #253 posted 04/27/17 6:13pm

IstenSzek

NewpowerScarfo said:

Ok, I just listened to this version of Electric Intercourse, and it's amazing. Fun fact, we've heard the beat of this version before in the movie Purple Rain. It's the scene when the girl is crying backwards on a cassette tape the Kid was playing for Apollonia( before the instrumental to God is played). Play that scene and you'll see what I mean.


i have an MP3 of that scene, both backwards and forward lol but it's not the same beat at all.



and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #254 posted 04/27/17 6:21pm

bobgeorge77

Electric Intercouse is probably my top unrealeased track of all time (I have the demo versions on constant replay in my car!). I just heard the studio version and I love it!! I especially love that it is different than the demos and live versions (but of course it is still the electric intercouse that we know and love!). This made my night and might go down as the best thing that happened during this diffiicult April! I am looking forward to the release (wish there were actually 2 discs of unrealeased material as promised, but what can u do!). This song is beautiful!! Thank u Prince! music music

[Edited 4/27/17 18:21pm]

Reply #255 posted 04/27/17 6:23pm

PurpleYoda3121

I'm sorry, but this blows the First Avenue version out of the water. The First Avenue version is one of the most emotional things I've ever heard, but this is even more plaintive. And yet, it's so sexually intense in a way the live one didn't even approach.
U fall in love 2 fast and hate 2 soon
And take 4 granted the feeling’s mutual
Reply #256 posted 04/27/17 6:26pm

bluegangsta

bobgeorge77 said:

Electric Intercouse is probably my top unrealeased track of all time (I have the demo versions on constant replay in my car!).

There are no demo versions. There are two rehersal versions and a live one from the PR era.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #257 posted 04/27/17 6:38pm

luvsexy4all

shouldnt this have been on the 1999 remaster? i dont like it....like the version we know

Reply #258 posted 04/27/17 6:44pm

bobgeorge77

bluegangsta said:

 



bobgeorge77 said:


Electric Intercouse is probably my top unrealeased track of all time (I have the demo versions on constant replay in my car!).



There are no demo versions. There are two rehersal versions and a live one from the PR era.


U r right! I stand corrected... the rehearsals r amazing!
Reply #259 posted 04/27/17 6:49pm

luvgirl

NewpowerScarfo said:

Ok, I just listened to this version of Electric Intercourse, and it's amazing. Fun fact, we've heard the beat of this version before in the movie Purple Rain. It's the scene when the girl is crying backwards on a cassette tape the Kid was playing for Apollonia( before the instrumental to God is played). Play that scene and you'll see what I mean.




eek Thanks for pointing that out!
I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
Reply #260 posted 04/27/17 6:49pm

TrivialPursuit

luvsexy4all said:

shouldnt this have been on the 1999 remaster? i dont like it....like the version we know


No. It was intended for Purple Rain, but a shortly after (within the week) he recorded "The Beautiful Ones", and that was a superior song for the purposes of a soundtrack. I do think it should have been a b-side, though. There was no need for "Baby I'm A Star" as a b-side to "Take Me With U". That's where "Electric Intercourse" belonged.

It is hard to hear another version, though. I agree. There was more emotion, etc. on the First Avenue takes. But, if you just listen to it as an outtake from that synergy of post 1999-tour into working on Purple Rain, it makes sense. The drum pattern is quite similar to "The Beautiful Ones", and a tad faster in BPM. It's nice to hear the lyrics without distortion from a VHS tape and a non-soundboard audio source.

I think in the overall realm of this deluxe edition, it'll sound right at home.

"Despite everything, no 1 can dictate who u r 2 other people." - Prince |
http://bit.ly/unboxingprince
Reply #261 posted 04/27/17 6:50pm

OnlyNDaUsa

bluegangsta said:

bobgeorge77 said:

Electric Intercouse is probably my top unrealeased track of all time (I have the demo versions on constant replay in my car!).

There are no demo versions. There are two rehersal versions and a live one from the PR era.

and he did it a few times the last 2 years... and there is an edit of the better rehearsal that someone edited...

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #262 posted 04/27/17 6:59pm

bobgeorge77

OnlyNDaUsa said:

 



bluegangsta said:


 



bobgeorge77 said:


Electric Intercouse is probably my top unrealeased track of all time (I have the demo versions on constant replay in my car!).



There are no demo versions. There are two rehersal versions and a live one from the PR era.



 


 


and he did it a few times the last 2 years... and there is an edit of the better rehearsal that someone edited... 


I definitely heard a live performance that he did not to long ago which sounded great ( where he wouldn't sing "electric intercourse"), but I have not heard the better rehearsal that u are referring to ....hmmm eek I am curious what that edited rehearsal is on....
Reply #263 posted 04/27/17 7:04pm

luvsexy4all

there r 2 rehearsals for the 8/3/83 show

Reply #264 posted 04/27/17 7:15pm

luvgirl

no no no! [Snip - luv4u]
I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
Reply #265 posted 04/27/17 7:16pm

callimnate

For me, this version of EI has more of a 1999 feel than a PR feel to it.

I know it'll grow on me, but the live version is one of my favs.

Cant wait to hear the rest of the unreleased stuff. cool

Reply #266 posted 04/27/17 7:22pm

mrmaxwell

callimnate said:

For me, this version of EI has more of a 1999 feel than a PR feel to it.

I know it'll grow on me, but the live version is one of my favs.

Cant wait to hear the rest of the unreleased stuff. cool



Well it was recorded in 1983 so that only makes sense.....think of the intense amount of output in '83/84 and the musical transition he was going through from RnB Punk Funk hipster to worldwide rockstar!

Reply #267 posted 04/27/17 7:22pm

purpleprime

I absoloutley luv this song...ive never heard this or any other version before now, and it really sounds great.....and I luv the "remastering" of it aswell...which has got me really pumped up for the whole 3 discs!!...

Reply #268 posted 04/27/17 7:31pm

luvgirl

purpleprime said:

 



luvgirl said:


[Snip - luv4u]I don't see it for purchase anywhere in New York!

 


Im listening on Spotify...i just put Elecctric Intercourse (Studio Version) in google and it came up!!



Thanks, I don't have Spotify. I thought it would be on Amazon or Itunes. sad
I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
Reply #269 posted 04/27/17 7:41pm

purpleprime

luvgirl said:

purpleprime said:

Im listening on Spotify...i just put Elecctric Intercourse (Studio Version) in google and it came up!!

Thanks, I don't have Spotify. I thought it would be on Amazon or Itunes. sad

neither do I it just said "log in with facebook" ...so i did and it came on straight away!!...didnt have to download spotify or pay or anything...Id post u a link....but i may get in trouble with the moderator's...

[Edited 4/27/17 19:47pm]

Reply #270 posted 04/27/17 7:47pm

feeluupp

Can we all clarify something in this thread... EI is not available anywhere to stream or buy for the USA.

Reply #271 posted 04/27/17 7:50pm

IstenSzek

feeluupp said:

Can we all clarify something in this thread... EI is not available anywhere to stream or buy for the USA.


going off the availability in all other countries, it's safe to asume that it will become
available on itunes in the usa at 11 PM in your timezone.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #272 posted 04/27/17 7:51pm

ElectricDancer

I love it! As others have said, heavy 1999-era sound here with the synths and Linn drum machine.
I don't think it sounds unfinished. While going for huge production sometimes, other times Prince was super minimalistic. There's like four tracks on Sign O The Times and it doesn't sound unfinished.
Reply #273 posted 04/27/17 7:56pm

luvgirl

Got it! Wow!!!! It's AMAZING!!! eek excited
I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
Reply #274 posted 04/27/17 8:01pm

leecaldon

It took one listen to reset my ears from the previous versions I have heard (my favourite rendition is actually Birmingham 2014, and I've listened to that dozens of times).

Then I switched to the good headphones and yes - this is amazing. If the vault can provide us with genuine unheard treasures like this, then although things will never be the same after 2016, we still have something to look forward to.
Reply #275 posted 04/27/17 8:02pm

imprimis

Are my purple suspicions correct that there's an awkward edit (or censorship) around 1:30? Right after some steamy aspirations? Or perhaps just slightly off tempo when live-play programming the Linn?

.

[Edited 4/27/17 20:08pm]

Reply #276 posted 04/27/17 8:19pm

jaawwnn

imprimis said:

Are my purple suspicions correct that there's an awkward edit (or censorship) around 1:30?  Right after some steamy aspirations?  Or perhaps just slightly off tempo when live-play programming the Linn?


.

[Edited 4/27/17 20:08pm]


I think there might be something, the same double beat appears around 1:06 though, slightly less awkwardly. Let's not start calling things censorship at this early stage without proof or we'll never hear the end of it.
Reply #277 posted 04/27/17 8:21pm

EddieC

laurarichardson said:

Militant said:

It's pretty insane that this has managed to get this far without a new press release that specified the release date and announced the tracklist officially. A dedicated website to capture email addresses for a mailing list wouldn't have hurt, either. Something... Anything!

If they wanted to do Beyonce style guerrila tactics they should have just dropped the full digital release out of nowhere, with the physical to follow.

I don't doubt that they'll do some promotion, but letting this go live without officially announcing any info and then just waiting for us to find it, is pretty bizarre.




Not bizarre more like being cheap. I think they know Prince has a loyat fanbase and do not feel they need to spead a lot of money promoting the product. Prince sold 7.7 millions songs last year. More than anyone WB knows they can make a fourtune without having to spend much money.

Exactly how much do you think a tweet would cost?

Reply #278 posted 04/27/17 8:23pm

oliviacamron

Apple said electric intercourse purchase is only available in Russia
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
Reply #279 posted 04/27/17 8:25pm

thisisreece

EddieC said:

laurarichardson said:

Not bizarre more like being cheap. I think they know Prince has a loyat fanbase and do not feel they need to spead a lot of money promoting the product. Prince sold 7.7 millions songs last year. More than anyone WB knows they can make a fourtune without having to spend much money.

Exactly how much do you think a tweet would cost?

I don't know, about six dollars?

Hundalasiliah!
Reply #280 posted 04/27/17 8:28pm

2020

So cool to have the studio version but just like with Fury I'll stick with the LIVE version

Also cant stop playing the Deliverance EP cool

The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.

Remember there is only one destination and that place is U
All of it. Everything. Is U.
Reply #281 posted 04/27/17 8:28pm

oliviacamron

I have Tidal. Do you think it will be available there? lol
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
Reply #282 posted 04/27/17 8:33pm

scratch

Electric Intercourse is now available to stream on Apple Music in the US.


It's pretty good. It doesn't hold a candle to the classic live version, and I was a bit bewildered when I first heard it. It sounds like a demo, not like a studio version Prince was prepared to release. His vocals on it are a bit strange at times, they don't have the same gut-wrenching passion from the live track. Still a nice track to have. I hope we get the live version in pristine quality soon. Is there a version in excellent quality of the live track circulating? The versions I've heard have all been a bit muddy. Not asking for links or anything, just to know if it is indeed circulating.

Reply #283 posted 04/27/17 8:33pm

rdhull

EI..this is badazz

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #284 posted 04/27/17 8:39pm

imprimis

There is a better song embedded in this track, if it could be disentagled by removing some of the layered vocals during certain portions of it. There seems to be buried underneath those a slightly less forceful run-through of the entire track as we're used to from the rehearsals and live show.

.

The mix is also a little too trebly/chambery, giving it a slightly unpolished feel (although its crisper and easier to hear the finer points than in most of his 80s properly mastered material).

.

I have a contrary theory that our revered August 3, 1983 live take is so hastily rehearsed, and lifelessly performed by the Revolutionaries, that in the effort to imitate the key points of this primarily studio-oriented track, an even better result unintentionally reached (and also greatly bolstered for by the raw emotive energy of his vocals during the actual performance). I presume this song was recorded earlier in the year (even if he 'enhanced' it a bit during the canon-date September 1983 Sunset Sound sessions, perhaps when many of these gratuitous vocal overdubs were added).

.

I would draw a very loose parallel to the studio version of 'Screams of Passion versus its 1985 PR Tour rehearsal/soundcheck of 'Screams of Passion' counterpart, or the studio vs one-off live version of 'Another Lonely Christmas'.

.

[Edited 4/27/17 20:51pm]

Reply #285 posted 04/27/17 8:44pm

rdhull

imprimis said:

There is a better song embedded in this track, if it could be disentagled by removing some of the layered vocals during certain portions of it.

.

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #286 posted 04/27/17 8:47pm

IstenSzek

rdhull said:

imprimis said:

There is a better song embedded in this track, if it could be disentagled by removing some of the layered vocals during certain portions of it.

.


i know, right? people should just give the studio version a bit of time.
we've all been listening to the other version for two decades. it's just
a different version of the song.

a few months from now 90% of the people who dislike it now will be
starting threads singing it's praises. happens all the time.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #287 posted 04/27/17 8:52pm

rdhull

IstenSzek said:

rdhull said:


i know, right? people should just give the studio version a bit of time.
we've all been listening to the other version for two decades. it's just
a different version of the song.

a few months from now 90% of the people who dislike it now will be
starting threads singing it's praises. happens all the time.

Plus, we will get the live one on the dvd live show no doubt. The studio fits right in with the PR-era project. And having no studio version would have folks pissed.

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #288 posted 04/27/17 8:52pm

imprimis

IstenSzek said:

rdhull said:

And here we go. . .


i know, right? people should just give the studio version a bit of time.
we've all been listening to the other version for two decades. it's just
a different version of the song.

a few months from now 90% of the people who dislike it now will be
starting threads singing it's praises. happens all the time.

.

There are often good reasons a song is placed into the vault, or relegated to a B-side. It's fantastic in many ways, and a disappointment in others. But our lives have been enriched by having finally heard it. It deservedly occupies the same league as some of his best regarded outtake material.

.

[Edited 4/27/17 20:57pm]

Reply #289 posted 04/27/17 8:53pm

PurpleTrollster

FUNQ YAAAASS!! TAKE MY MONEY!!! TAKE ALL MY MONEY!!! TAKE MY FAMILY'S MONEY!!! TAKE MY ENTIRE COLLEGE FUND!!!!! TAKE MY SOUL

4chans' ambassador to prince.org
Reply #290 posted 04/27/17 8:56pm

rdhull

PurpleTrollster said:

FUNQ YAAAASS!! TAKE MY MONEY!!! TAKE ALL MY MONEY!!! TAKE MY FAMILY'S MONEY!!! TAKE MY ENTIRE COLLEGE FUND!!!!! TAKE MY SOUL

word up

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #291 posted 04/27/17 8:57pm

camilleblue

I just purchased Electric Intercourse on Itunes USA.

I gotta say the studio version is mesmerising! I hear a little bit of The Beautiful Ones in there at the beginning and the pulsating rythym is intoxicating. I know there are people out there who love the other versions out there that we've heard over the years but I personally dig this one. Well worth the 33 year wait to hear a studio version!

Reply #292 posted 04/27/17 9:00pm

bluegangsta

6/23:

When Doves Cry 12" @ SRP of $12.98
Purple Rain 180g @ SRP of $24.98
Purple Rain Picture Disc @ SRP of $20.98
Purple Rain 3CD/1DVD @ SRP of $32.98
Purple Rain 2CD @ SRP of $20.98
Purple Rain 12" @ SRP of $12.98
Let's Go Crazy 12" @ SRP of $12.98
I Would Die 4 U 12" @ SRP of $12.98

I wonder how they're going to fit two concert films on one DVD...

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #293 posted 04/27/17 9:04pm

rdhull

Them drums. Lawd. The linn, the piano, the synths. This is Anton Ego experience

Y'all did see Ratatouille? hearing the synths and drums like this is like when Ego takes his first bite of the soup and is transported (in his mind) to that 8 year old child and his mama fixed that dish to him.

Thats what happens each time I play this.

This brings (some) balance to the purple force.

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #294 posted 04/27/17 9:12pm

TrivialPursuit

As noted, the song is now on streaming services as of midnight ET. Here's Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/...yfEV6zcEE9

"Despite everything, no 1 can dictate who u r 2 other people." - Prince |
http://bit.ly/unboxingprince
Reply #295 posted 04/27/17 9:19pm

TheQuest

The deluxe edition is also available on amazon music for $18.99

Reply #296 posted 04/27/17 9:33pm

bfunk

bluegangsta said:

6/23:

When Doves Cry 12" @ SRP of $12.98
Purple Rain 180g @ SRP of $24.98
Purple Rain Picture Disc @ SRP of $20.98
Purple Rain 3CD/1DVD @ SRP of $32.98
Purple Rain 2CD @ SRP of $20.98
Purple Rain 12" @ SRP of $12.98
Let's Go Crazy 12" @ SRP of $12.98
I Would Die 4 U 12" @ SRP of $12.98

I wonder how they're going to fit two concert films on one DVD...

Syracuse is 120 minutes

8/3/83 is 70 minutes or so with a long intro and the speech in the middle.

You could get that on one disc with some edits to 8/3/83.

Titanic is 194 minutes on 1 disc. There are some other long films on 1 disc.

Reply #297 posted 04/27/17 9:34pm

thx185

Just got it through iTunes in the US. The quality of the source / master sounds good to me. It's different from the live version, but I love it!

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Very surreal and amazing to have material appearing -- allbeit slowly -- from the vault.

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Between this and the Deliverance EP, I am re-convinced all over again of Prince's genius, and that he has many, many treasures yet to be heard by us.

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crysball crysball crysball

"..free to change your mind"
Reply #298 posted 04/27/17 9:34pm

SchlomoThaHomo

I'm glad the studio version has a falsetto vocal, as I've always preferred the falsetto rehearsal to the others. And what an interesting vocal! Lots of weird extended vibrato, which is different for him and very cool. It takes a few spins to get used to, but how exciting! When the beat kicks in, I instantly thought of Bria's Another Boy.
"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
Reply #299 posted 04/27/17 9:36pm

TrivialPursuit

SchlomoThaHomo said:

I'm glad the studio version has a falsetto vocal, as I've always preferred the falsetto rehearsal to the others. And what an interesting vocal! Lots of weird extended vibrato, which is different for him and very cool. It takes a few spins to get used to, but how exciting! When the beat kicks in, I instantly thought of Bria's Another Boy.


"God" is full of that, actually. It's why I never cared for it.

The fact that you've listened to Bria enough to reference anything on there worries me. LOL

"Despite everything, no 1 can dictate who u r 2 other people." - Prince |
http://bit.ly/unboxingprince
Reply #300 posted 04/27/17 9:42pm

bluegangsta

bfunk said:

bluegangsta said:

6/23:

When Doves Cry 12" @ SRP of $12.98
Purple Rain 180g @ SRP of $24.98
Purple Rain Picture Disc @ SRP of $20.98
Purple Rain 3CD/1DVD @ SRP of $32.98
Purple Rain 2CD @ SRP of $20.98
Purple Rain 12" @ SRP of $12.98
Let's Go Crazy 12" @ SRP of $12.98
I Would Die 4 U 12" @ SRP of $12.98

I wonder how they're going to fit two concert films on one DVD...

Syracuse is 120 minutes

8/3/83 is 70 minutes or so with a long intro and the speech in the middle.

You could get that on one disc with some edits to 8/3/83.

Titanic is 194 minutes on 1 disc. There are some other long films on 1 disc.

Fitting 194 miutes on a single disc means a drastic reduction in audio and video quality.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #301 posted 04/27/17 9:46pm

FragileUndertow

NewpowerScarfo said:

Ok, I just listened to this version of Electric Intercourse, and it's amazing. Fun fact, we've heard the beat of this version before in the movie Purple Rain. It's the scene when the girl is crying backwards on a cassette tape the Kid was playing for Apollonia( before the instrumental to God is played). Play that scene and you'll see what I mean.


YOU know I thought I remembered hearing it in the movie, I just couldn't remember where..nice catch
Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
Reply #302 posted 04/27/17 9:49pm

rdhull

Is that a belch at 3:44?

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #303 posted 04/27/17 9:51pm

dsimp8

Incredible. Love hearing this and contrasting it with the live version. I love them equally. Prince sounds so full of life !
Reply #304 posted 04/27/17 9:52pm

SchlomoThaHomo

TrivialPursuit said:

 



SchlomoThaHomo said:


I'm glad the studio version has a falsetto vocal, as I've always preferred the falsetto rehearsal to the others. And what an interesting vocal! Lots of weird extended vibrato, which is different for him and very cool. It takes a few spins to get used to, but how exciting! When the beat kicks in, I instantly thought of Bria's Another Boy.


"God" is full of that, actually.  It's why I never cared for it.  

The fact that you've listened to Bria enough to reference anything on there worries me.  LOL



Well I consider God his most weird vocal, and also kind of an anomaly, as I can't think of a vocal nearly as weird.

And in regards to Bria, yea, I listen to all of it. lol
[Edited 4/27/17 21:55pm]
"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
Reply #305 posted 04/27/17 9:57pm

Strawberrylova123

SchlomoThaHomo said:

TrivialPursuit said:

 



SchlomoThaHomo said:


I'm glad the studio version has a falsetto vocal, as I've always preferred the falsetto rehearsal to the others. And what an interesting vocal! Lots of weird extended vibrato, which is different for him and very cool. It takes a few spins to get used to, but how exciting! When the beat kicks in, I instantly thought of Bria's Another Boy.


"God" is full of that, actually.  It's why I never cared for it.  

The fact that you've listened to Bria enough to reference anything on there worries me.  LOL



Well I consider God his most weird vocal, and also kind of an anomaly, as I can't think of a vocal nearly as weird.

And in regards to Bria, yea, I listen to all of it. lol
[Edited 4/27/17 21:55pm]

Girl also has weird vocals.
Reply #306 posted 04/27/17 10:00pm

SchlomoThaHomo

Strawberrylova123 said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:



Well I consider God his most weird vocal, and also kind of an anomaly, as I can't think of a vocal nearly as weird.

And in regards to Bria, yea, I listen to all of it. lol
[Edited 4/27/17 21:55pm]

Girl also has weird vocals.


You think? I think of it as a weird song but the vocal doesn't stick out for me.
"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
Reply #307 posted 04/27/17 10:04pm

imprimis

We are also treated to a 'Do Me, Baby'/'3 x 2 = 6'/'Nasty Girl'/'God (Instrumental Version)'-esque trippy synth fadeout and epilogue.

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[Edited 4/27/17 22:13pm]

Reply #308 posted 04/27/17 10:07pm

dance4me3121

TheQuest said:

The deluxe edition is also available on amazon music for $18.99



That's awesome!
But I'm gonna wait to order the physical release.
Reply #309 posted 04/27/17 10:10pm

Strawberrylova123

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Strawberrylova123 said:


Girl also has weird vocals.


You think? I think of it as a weird song but the vocal doesn't stick out for me.

Yes, i love that song.
Reply #310 posted 04/27/17 10:11pm

FragileUndertow

IstenSzek said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

Ok, I just listened to this version of Electric Intercourse, and it's amazing. Fun fact, we've heard the beat of this version before in the movie Purple Rain. It's the scene when the girl is crying backwards on a cassette tape the Kid was playing for Apollonia( before the instrumental to God is played). Play that scene and you'll see what I mean.


i have an MP3 of that scene, both backwards and forward lol but it's not the same beat at all.



Damn there goes that theory lol

Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
Reply #311 posted 04/27/17 10:19pm

Strawberrylova123

Strawberrylova123 said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:



You think? I think of it as a weird song but the vocal doesn't stick out for me.

Yes, i love that song.

Condition of the heart also odd vocals
Reply #312 posted 04/27/17 10:22pm

SchlomoThaHomo

Strawberrylova123 said:

Strawberrylova123 said:


Yes, i love that song.

Condition of the heart also odd vocals


He definitely had weird vocals all over his music. But God is one I would only play if I was alone.
"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
Reply #313 posted 04/27/17 10:25pm

jaawwnn

You can really clear a room with the God vocal version alright.

I suppose Solo would be the closest to a similar kinda thing.

[Edited 4/27/17 22:28pm]

Reply #314 posted 04/27/17 10:28pm

KingSausage

Jesus, I love this song so much. Listened to it like 20 times already.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #315 posted 04/27/17 10:44pm

SomeSoldier

If it is 3 CDs and one DVD, shall we assume that we don't get an audio version of one of the concerts? Shame, having e audio of the First Avenue show would have really lifted his set. I guess someone will rip it soon though...
Reply #316 posted 04/27/17 10:48pm

FragileUndertow

SomeSoldier said:

If it is 3 CDs and one DVD, shall we assume that we don't get an audio version of one of the concerts? Shame, having e audio of the First Avenue show would have really lifted his set. I guess someone will rip it soon though...

in this day and age u can rip dvd audio easily lol

Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
Reply #317 posted 04/27/17 10:52pm

SomeSoldier

FragileUndertow said:

 



SomeSoldier said:


If it is 3 CDs and one DVD, shall we assume that we don't get an audio version of one of the concerts? Shame, having e audio of the First Avenue show would have really lifted his set. I guess someone will rip it soon though...

in this day and age u can rip dvd audio easily  lol


Well, maybe YOU can, I have no idea how to do it 😂.
Fortunately the Prince fan community is full of gentle souls who are always happy to help the technologically challenged!
Reply #318 posted 04/27/17 11:16pm

skipthecharades

Track list of the physical album disc 4, according to bol.com (they only mention 4 CD's/discs).

Syracuse indeed.

Don't know how accurate this is, beacuse the pre-order remastered LP version has only 8 tracks (no Purple Rain wink)

Tracklist 4

  • 1. Let’s Go Crazy
  • 2. Delirious
  • 3. 1999
  • 4. Little Red Corvette
  • 5. Take Me With U
  • 6. Do Me, Baby
  • 7. Irresistible Bitch
  • 8. Possessed
  • 9. How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore?
  • 10. Let’s Pretend We’re Married
  • 11. International Lover
  • 12. God
  • 13. Computer Blue
  • 14. Darling Nikki (explicit)
  • 15. The Beautiful Ones
  • 16. When Doves Cry
  • 17. I Would Die 4 U
  • 18. Baby I’m A Star
  • 19. Purple Rain

Reply #319 posted 04/27/17 11:17pm

FragileUndertow

SomeSoldier said:

FragileUndertow said:

in this day and age u can rip dvd audio easily lol

Well, maybe YOU can, I have no idea how to do it 😂. Fortunately the Prince fan community is full of gentle souls who are always happy to help the technologically challenged!

i downloaded some free dvd audio ripper in the past. it was pretty simple..

pop in a dvd.. scan the dvd.. select what tracks and rip to wav, mp3

but i no longer have the program, so i cant recomend what program it was lol

Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
Reply #320 posted 04/27/17 11:31pm

chompsky

i think it's fun to imagine that he chose electric intercourse instead of the beautiful ones and today we're hearing the beautiful ones for the first time

Reply #321 posted 04/27/17 11:41pm

Sydney

The "4th" disc on "Purple Rain Deluxe" is definitely Syracuse live set.

Prince re-mastered "Purple Rain" himself before he left us as the release has been scheduled now for a few years.

The Revolution do a "track by track" in the CD booklet and Susan Rogers contributes to the liner notes.

There will also be a vinyl version of the Deluxe Edition.

Cant wait!

PS: I think "Electric Intercourse" is beautiful.

Reply #322 posted 04/27/17 11:52pm

LondonIrish1970

Very exciting to open Spotify and see this as a featured new release.

Sounding very good, pleased that we have this as a taster.
Reply #323 posted 04/28/17 12:10am

jaypotton

Not spotted anyone say this and not going to read the whole 11 pages but...

Have you noticed (on Amazon at least) that there is a PR Deluxe (2 CDs, original album + vault album) and PR Deluxe Expanded (with the third CD of single edits, b sides and 12 inch edits). this was under digital music (so not CDs of course) and the listing under CDs and Vinyl (there is a vinyl release) is currently there but with no details...but that is where I guess we will see the DVDs included in the package.

Anyway, that solves the problem for all the people who were moaning about the CD with single edits etc. You don't have to buy it!

Oh unless you do to get the DVDs...hmmmm
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #324 posted 04/28/17 12:36am

Thibaut

Wow unfortunately the live version we knew before is way better... sad

Reply #325 posted 04/28/17 12:39am

highcalonic

So, no First Avenue in the PR deluxe set, really disappointed !!!

"You can skate around the issue if you like,
But who's gonna get you high in the middle of the night?"
Reply #326 posted 04/28/17 12:47am

Dangelus

Interesting.

Got it from Spotify UK and it is available in both Amazon UK and Google music but only Amazon are offering the "single" for purchase. Google have a release date of 25th June and Amazon 23rd June for the album.

It would be cool if this charted wouldn't it? biggrin

Reply #327 posted 04/28/17 1:00am

RODSERLING

I won't buy it.

30/35 euros for one disc of unreleased music no thanks. Are they crazy ?

I hoped there was the two lives in blu ray - but schokingly, there is only 1 dvd (!!). We are not in 2004 anymore...What is the point in remastering a video tape in 2017, if it is not for a HD release ?

That still proves WB can't make a real good deluxe edition, even more than one year after Prince's passing...and this is for Purple Rain ! The only Prince popular album worldwide.

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WB missed the point, like Sony missed the point with MJ's posthumous release. Commercially, MJ's release never recovered from it, to the point where they don' even want to release unreleased track anymore. Because nobody buys them.

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WB could make a music video of EI, using footage from the live version. But they won't do that. They are really lacking commercial sense.

I can't believe they waited more than one year for this disappointment. It could have easily been released last year.

[Edited 4/28/17 1:04am]

Reply #328 posted 04/28/17 1:02am

SoulAlive

listening to "Electric Intercourse" on Spotify right now music this track is amazing!!! I love it

Reply #329 posted 04/28/17 1:09am

mrmaxwell

Great version of Ei however it does seem borderline demo quaility in its completeness. A someone else mentioned earlier this could have been a guide track in preparation for recording at First Ave during the benefit show for inclusion on the PR album however once The Beautiful Ones was recorded it was put on the shelf.

It is amazing how difference each version of this song sounds - the rehersal, the live version and now the studio mix.

Bring on June 23rd.

Reply #330 posted 04/28/17 1:27am

NewpowerScarfo

Question : Did they announce the two concert dvds yet?

Reply #331 posted 04/28/17 1:28am

highcalonic

RODSERLING said:

I hoped there was the two lives in blu ray - but schokingly, there is only 1 dvd (!!). We are not in 2004 anymore...What is the point in remastering a video tape in 2017, if it is not for a HD release ?

It depends on how they filmed it, you cannot make a decent HD release with video...

Even in DVD, i would have been happy to get the remastered version of the First Avenue !

"You can skate around the issue if you like,
But who's gonna get you high in the middle of the night?"
Reply #332 posted 04/28/17 1:29am

vivifiant

https://store.warnermusic.com.au/products/purple-rain-3cd-dvd-deluxe-expanded-edition

.

3CD/1DVD, Syracuse only confirmed.

$75

[Edited 4/28/17 1:31am]

Reply #333 posted 04/28/17 1:29am

highcalonic

NewpowerScarfo said:

Question : Did they announce the two concert dvds yet?

There is only one concert dvd neutral

"You can skate around the issue if you like,
But who's gonna get you high in the middle of the night?"
Reply #334 posted 04/28/17 1:31am

mrmaxwell

vivifiant said:

https://store.warnermusic.com.au/products/purple-rain-3cd-dvd-deluxe-expanded-edition

3CD/1DVD, Syracuse only confirmed



Doesn't look like there will be a second concert DVD?

At least there is Syracuse remastered and polished up along with a vinyl edition of PR.

Reply #335 posted 04/28/17 1:34am

NewpowerScarfo

highcalonic said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

Question : Did they announce the two concert dvds yet?

There is only one concert dvd neutral

Thanx, I mean it's cool, but kind of shitty of WB to say two full concerts but only offer one. Besides that, I'm pleased with this release.

Reply #336 posted 04/28/17 1:40am

bluegangsta

vivifiant said:

https://store.warnermusic.com.au/products/purple-rain-3cd-dvd-deluxe-expanded-edition

.

3CD/1DVD, Syracuse only confirmed.

$75

[Edited 4/28/17 1:31am]

Not a chance in hell I'm paying $75 for a half baked release of 75% content that I already own.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #337 posted 04/28/17 1:55am

BartVanHemelen

Crump said:

Does anyone know what "Mastered for iTunes" means?

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Is Googling it that hard?

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It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
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Reply #338 posted 04/28/17 1:56am

BartVanHemelen

BoraBora said:

Excuse me if it was already noted.....

... but the fact that we have "Electric Intercourse (Studio Version)" to me implies that in one of the 2 live CDS in the set there is also one "Electric Intercourse (Live Version)".

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No it doesn't.

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This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
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Reply #339 posted 04/28/17 1:57am

jasontate

I didn't expect this to make me so emotional. Listening to Electric Intercourse has dropped me like a bag of shit. It's fucking EPIC. Crying like a child and I don't care.

Reply #340 posted 04/28/17 2:02am

bonatoc

jasontate said:

I didn't expect this to make me so emotional. Listening to Electric Intercourse has dropped me like a bag of shit. It's fucking EPIC. Crying like a child and I don't care.


The studio version shocks my wild
with a sexual electricity extraordinaire.

I sure hope the Vault naysayers (we already have everything of interest) gonna shut up for a long while after this.

Are they fingersnaps we're earing?
Know what this is? Orgasm.

Africa, Cap'n Crunch, Norma Jean, Sex and Cheerio's
Play my record double speed, feel the climax fit 4 a king
Reply #341 posted 04/28/17 2:03am

NewpowerScarfo

jasontate said:

I didn't expect this to make me so emotional. Listening to Electric Intercourse has dropped me like a bag of shit. It's fucking EPIC. Crying like a child and I don't care.

It's best to let it all out.

Reply #342 posted 04/28/17 2:05am

bonatoc

Sydney said:

The "4th" disc on "Purple Rain Deluxe" is definitely Syracuse live set.

Prince re-mastered "Purple Rain" himself before he left us as the release has been scheduled now for a few years.

The Revolution do a "track by track" in the CD booklet and Susan Rogers contributes to the liner notes.

There will also be a vinyl version of the Deluxe Edition.

Cant wait!

PS: I think "Electric Intercourse" is beautiful.


Bernie Grundman wasn't involved?
I sure hope Prince did not go for the TGE approach (brickwall).

Hurray for the vinyl confirmation.

Africa, Cap'n Crunch, Norma Jean, Sex and Cheerio's
Play my record double speed, feel the climax fit 4 a king
Reply #343 posted 04/28/17 2:11am

Neversin

mrmaxwell said:

vivifiant said:

https://store.warnermusic.com.au/products/purple-rain-3cd-dvd-deluxe-expanded-edition

3CD/1DVD, Syracuse only confirmed



Doesn't look like there will be a second concert DVD?

At least there is Syracuse remastered and polished up along with a vinyl edition of PR.


Let's hope the Syracuse DVD contains the option for other angles and "When Doves Cry" without the mirror effect like the original broadcast... My guess is this will just be a transfer from the LD master of the official release, to keep the production costs low... A proper remaster of the show with all the bells and whistles would be great...


Neversin.

O(+>NIИ<+)O

“Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?”

- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
Reply #344 posted 04/28/17 2:13am

Phishanga

vivifiant said:

https://store.warnermusic.com.au/products/purple-rain-3cd-dvd-deluxe-expanded-edition

.

3CD/1DVD, Syracuse only confirmed.

$75

[Edited 4/28/17 1:31am]

If that's all there will be... doody storm

Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
Reply #345 posted 04/28/17 2:14am

Phishanga

Man, he recorded some crazy, unique, amazing vocals back then.

Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
Reply #346 posted 04/28/17 2:16am

SoulAlive

Alot of times,when I listen to Prince's unreleased songs,I get so sad/angry that the world never got to hear these amazing tunes."Electric Intercourse" should have been released back in the day!! Maybe as a B-side? It's too good to stay in the vaults all of these years!! I'm thrilled that it's finally beinfg released now,but damn.......can you imagine the impact it would have had back in 84' or '85?!

Reply #347 posted 04/28/17 2:24am

TheEnglishGent

Physical versions available at Amazon uk now.

Expanded at £24.99 https://www.amazon.co.uk/...ain+deluxe

And £15.99 for 2 disc version, with just PR and the vault disc. https://www.amazon.co.uk/...ain+deluxe

RIP sad
Reply #348 posted 04/28/17 2:38am

JorisE73

Late to the party as usuall but holy shit Electric Intercourse is GOOD stuff! It has been on repeat for hours! I always imagined this studio version would have the same echo effect on his voice like I Would Die 4 U tho but still so great!!

Reply #349 posted 04/28/17 2:44am

JorisE73

Does anyone know why they insist on labeling the song a Studio Version? There wasn't ever a live version released officialy right? Or maybe there will be one in the future?

Reply #350 posted 04/28/17 2:54am

antonb

I like it a lot but I have been spoilt by the live version. It's a bit like the differences between Fury live and the studio version. But I still like both versions.
Reply #351 posted 04/28/17 2:59am

TheEnglishGent

JorisE73 said:

Does anyone know why they insist on labeling the song a Studio Version? There wasn't ever a live version released officialy right? Or maybe there will be one in the future?

Because they know all the bootleg collectors already have the live version and they don't want them to look at the track list and think they've got it all already.

RIP sad
Reply #352 posted 04/28/17 3:00am

fabriziovenerandi

I think I'll buy the Purple Rain remaster + The vault. I have less interest in dvd and songs edits.

But I'll buy the deluxe as soon as I can.

Yes, Warner Bros could put more songs, Prince could had relased this years ago, and other da da da.

Prince is dead and I find myself like in a church touching the relics.

Reply #353 posted 04/28/17 3:02am

TheEnglishGent

fabriziovenerandi said:

I think I'll buy the Purple Rain remaster + The vault. I have less interest in dvd and songs edits.

But I'll buy the deluxe as soon as I can.

Yes, Warner Bros could put more songs, Prince could had relased this years ago, and other da da da.

Prince is dead and I find myself like in a church touching the relics.

That's my plan, pre-ordered the 2 disc set this morning. Not too fussed about the concert, which I doubt I'd watch more than once and really not interested in the disc of singlese.

RIP sad
Reply #354 posted 04/28/17 3:02am

Biggs31

This is all very exciting!

I'd always assumed that a 'studio' version of Electric Intercourse would be mastered from the live performance, like some of the other Purple Rain tracks. So it's great to have a different version. Having said that, the live version was killer!

Wonderful Ass is my jam so can't wait to hear a fully mastered version!

Reply #355 posted 04/28/17 3:03am

JorisE73

TheEnglishGent said:

JorisE73 said:

Does anyone know why they insist on labeling the song a Studio Version? There wasn't ever a live version released officialy right? Or maybe there will be one in the future?

Because they know all the bootleg collectors already have the live version and they don't want them to look at the track list and think they've got it all already.

I thought of this but why than don't they call The Dance Electric or Our destiny/Roadhouse Garden Studio Versions because all the bootleg collectors have those live versions.

Reply #356 posted 04/28/17 3:09am

TheEnglishGent

JorisE73 said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Because they know all the bootleg collectors already have the live version and they don't want them to look at the track list and think they've got it all already.

I thought of this but why than don't they call The Dance Electric or Our destiny/Roadhouse Garden Studio Versions because all the bootleg collectors have those live versions.

Well, we should have the studio of Our Destiny/Roadhouse already, but yeah, that's a good point. Can't say it really bothers me though.

While I'm speaking about Roadhouse, I'm hoping that the version here is different to the one which leaked last year as that sounds a bit unfinished to me. Either way though, I'm really looking forward to this release.

RIP sad
Reply #357 posted 04/28/17 3:17am

dodger

SchlomoThaHomo said:

I'm glad the studio version has a falsetto vocal, as I've always preferred the falsetto rehearsal to the others. And what an interesting vocal! Lots of weird extended vibrato, which is different for him and very cool. It takes a few spins to get used to, but how exciting! When the beat kicks in, I instantly thought of Bria's Another Boy.

Just went back and listened to Another Boy - you are correct.

What a fuckin spot that is - pupil of the day award on the way

Reply #358 posted 04/28/17 3:24am

Marco81

TheEnglishGent said:

 



JorisE73 said:


Does anyone know why they insist on labeling the song a Studio Version? There wasn't ever a live version released officialy right? Or maybe there will be one in the future?



Because they know all the bootleg collectors already have the live version and they don't want them to look at the track list and think they've got it all already.


Or....they want to milk on Prince fans and have us buy these editions, then 1 month later comes the supadupa deluxe expanded whatever version with the 2nd disc of unearthed material which contains Electric Intercourse (live version first ave 83", mentioned on Princevault...who knows...
Reply #359 posted 04/28/17 3:37am

TheEnglishGent

Marco81 said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Because they know all the bootleg collectors already have the live version and they don't want them to look at the track list and think they've got it all already.

Or....they want to milk on Prince fans and have us buy these editions, then 1 month later comes the supadupa deluxe expanded whatever version with the 2nd disc of unearthed material which contains Electric Intercourse (live version first ave 83", mentioned on Princevault...who knows...

If that's the case, I want a ticket to the milk train. Still want a super quality version of the live track biggrin

RIP sad
Reply #360 posted 04/28/17 3:43am

Moonbeam

shocked Holy moly! I'm in love!

That ATMOSPHERE is so freaking Prince! The singing! shocked
Feel free to join in the Prince Song Poll 2016! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince songs, as decided by you!
Reply #361 posted 04/28/17 3:45am

Lianachan

TheEnglishGent said:

Physical versions available at Amazon uk now.

Expanded at £24.99 https://www.amazon.co.uk/...ain+deluxe

And £15.99 for 2 disc version, with just PR and the vault disc. https://www.amazon.co.uk/...ain+deluxe


Cool, cheers. Pre-ordered the Expanded edition.

A-nis bidh fios aig daoine nuair a tha mi a 'mionnachadh aig dhaibh.
Reply #362 posted 04/28/17 3:45am

tmcjb

Official press release, per Dr. Funkenberry:

http://www.drfunkenberry....pre-order/

"Like the drummer said, you got to die."
Reply #363 posted 04/28/17 3:46am

Revolution81

TheEnglishGent said:

 



JorisE73 said:


 



TheEnglishGent said:


 


Because they know all the bootleg collectors already have the live version and they don't want them to look at the track list and think they've got it all already.



I thought of this but why than don't they call The Dance Electric or Our destiny/Roadhouse Garden Studio Versions because all the bootleg collectors have those live versions.



Well, we should have the studio of Our Destiny/Roadhouse already, but yeah, that's a good point. Can't say it really bothers me though.

While I'm speaking about Roadhouse, I'm hoping that the version here is different to the one which leaked last year as that sounds a bit unfinished to me. Either way though, I'm really looking forward to this release.


It only sounds unfinished because it's mono from one channel.
The one on PR deluxe will most likely be the same one but obviously a proper stereo version with the missing channel, which contains Lisa backing vox and some extra instrumentation
Reply #364 posted 04/28/17 3:52am

leecaldon

RODSERLING said:

I won't buy it.


30/35 euros for one disc of unreleased music no thanks. Are they crazy ?


I hoped there was the two lives in blu ray - but schokingly, there is only 1 dvd (!!). We are not in 2004 anymore...What is the point in remastering a video tape in 2017, if it is not for a HD release ?


That still proves WB can't make a real good deluxe edition, even more than one year after Prince's passing...and this is for Purple Rain ! The only Prince popular album worldwide.


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WB missed the point, like Sony missed the point with MJ's posthumous release. Commercially, MJ's release never recovered from it, to the point where they don' even want to release unreleased track anymore. Because nobody buys them.


.


WB could make a music video of EI, using footage from the live version. But they won't do that. They are really lacking commercial sense.


I can't believe they waited more than one year for this disappointment. It could have easily been released last year.

[Edited 4/28/17 1:04am]



There's no pleasing some people rolleyes
Reply #365 posted 04/28/17 3:55am

TheEnglishGent

Revolution81 said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Well, we should have the studio of Our Destiny/Roadhouse already, but yeah, that's a good point. Can't say it really bothers me though.

While I'm speaking about Roadhouse, I'm hoping that the version here is different to the one which leaked last year as that sounds a bit unfinished to me. Either way though, I'm really looking forward to this release.

It only sounds unfinished because it's mono from one channel. The one on PR deluxe will most likely be the same one but obviously a proper stereo version with the missing channel, which contains Lisa backing vox and some extra instrumentation

That's interesting and makes sense, didn't know that. Was this gimped for us by the people who shared it?

RIP sad
Reply #366 posted 04/28/17 3:56am

Phishanga

Only Syracuse included. That is a major letdown... neutral I wonder if there might be right issues concerning the 1st Ave recording?

Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
Reply #367 posted 04/28/17 3:58am

TheEnglishGent

leecaldon said:

RODSERLING said:

I won't buy it.

30/35 euros for one disc of unreleased music no thanks. Are they crazy ?

I hoped there was the two lives in blu ray - but schokingly, there is only 1 dvd (!!). We are not in 2004 anymore...What is the point in remastering a video tape in 2017, if it is not for a HD release ?

That still proves WB can't make a real good deluxe edition, even more than one year after Prince's passing...and this is for Purple Rain ! The only Prince popular album worldwide.

.

WB missed the point, like Sony missed the point with MJ's posthumous release. Commercially, MJ's release never recovered from it, to the point where they don' even want to release unreleased track anymore. Because nobody buys them.

.

WB could make a music video of EI, using footage from the live version. But they won't do that. They are really lacking commercial sense.

I can't believe they waited more than one year for this disappointment. It could have easily been released last year.

[Edited 4/28/17 1:04am]

There's no pleasing some people rolleyes


Don't know why they're claiming €30/€35 is it's actually €18.99 for the two disc version on amazon.de, which seems fine to me for the remaster and the new disc.

RIP sad
Reply #368 posted 04/28/17 4:01am

OnlyNDaUsa

so are there 3 versions? 2CDs, 3CDs, and3CD and 1 DVD? (and I predict that $75 price will come way down)

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #369 posted 04/28/17 4:08am

peer1973

the full 4 disc version is now available for pre-order in netherlands

https://www.bol.com/nl/p/...ypedsearch

price at this moment is only 24,99 euros (including shipping within NL), which is a great price.

hope it stays this way smile

[Edited 4/28/17 4:10am]

Reply #370 posted 04/28/17 4:09am

siim

I just got the press-release from WB.
The DVD (and there's only one) is

DVD: Prince And The Revolution, Live at the Carrier Dome, Syracuse, NY, March 30, 1985

Reply #371 posted 04/28/17 4:14am

Revolution81

TheEnglishGent said:

 



Revolution81 said:


TheEnglishGent said:

 


Well, we should have the studio of Our Destiny/Roadhouse already, but yeah, that's a good point. Can't say it really bothers me though.

While I'm speaking about Roadhouse, I'm hoping that the version here is different to the one which leaked last year as that sounds a bit unfinished to me. Either way though, I'm really looking forward to this release.



It only sounds unfinished because it's mono from one channel. The one on PR deluxe will most likely be the same one but obviously a proper stereo version with the missing channel, which contains Lisa backing vox and some extra instrumentation

That's interesting and makes sense, didn't know that. Was this gimped for us by the people who shared it?


Probably lol. Who knows, maybe that person only had a gimped version
Reply #372 posted 04/28/17 4:16am

OnlyNDaUsa

siim said:

I just got the press-release from WB.
The DVD (and there's only one) is

DVD: Prince And The Revolution, Live at the Carrier Dome, Syracuse, NY, March 30, 1985

yeah, so unless there is surprise someplace the Feb press release was just a bunch of hogwash! It is one concert that was already released. But I guess I will buy it!

I am not really complaining...Just disappointed.

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #373 posted 04/28/17 4:17am

theartistirl

I've pre-ordered on www.fnac.com in France. €21.99 3cd+1dvd. Strange, when you search it returns untitled album with no artist name. When I select the album the it shows the artwork and correct title. The same for the vinyl version €19.99, except it says remastered version. I'm going to snap it up before they change their minds on the price. It will be my birthday present this year.

Reply #374 posted 04/28/17 4:23am

KingSausage

TheEnglishGent said:

 



JorisE73 said:


 



TheEnglishGent said:


 


Because they know all the bootleg collectors already have the live version and they don't want them to look at the track list and think they've got it all already.



I thought of this but why than don't they call The Dance Electric or Our destiny/Roadhouse Garden Studio Versions because all the bootleg collectors have those live versions.



Well, we should have the studio of Our Destiny/Roadhouse already, but yeah, that's a good point. Can't say it really bothers me though.

While I'm speaking about Roadhouse, I'm hoping that the version here is different to the one which leaked last year as that sounds a bit unfinished to me. Either way though, I'm really looking forward to this release.




A version of Roadhouse leaked last year? Shit. I totally missed that.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #375 posted 04/28/17 4:25am

SquirrelMeat

I wonder if we'll see some of the tracks appear from collectors in the coming weeks now that their value is about to be wiped out.

Also, am I the only one that thinks The Dance Electric should feature on an ATWIAD remaster and not PR? It was clearly recorded post PR and in the sessions that led to ATWIAD and The Family.
.
Reply #376 posted 04/28/17 4:30am

master

TheEnglishGent said:

leecaldon said:

RODSERLING said: There's no pleasing some people rolleyes


Don't know why they're claiming €30/€35 is it's actually €18.99 for the two disc version on amazon.de, which seems fine to me for the remaster and the new disc.

i told you they would let us down. Warners statements are shocking.

They love the rehash and 7" edits.

They were supposed to deal with estate and get a descent release done. this is even worse than i expected. I imagine Estate wanted deal with universal.

i would have rather paid more and a better release but £20 is descent price.

They just seem to do as little as possibe. Most is already release so took stuff that needed the least work to get to descent standard.

This was purple rain deluxe so i expected more from them. they have done slightly more than there hits until 93 usual still dissapointment as this was the holy grail and could have done a better job.

[Edited 4/28/17 4:34am]

[Edited 4/28/17 4:35am]

Reply #377 posted 04/28/17 4:31am

sulls

OnlyNDaUsa said:

so are there 3 versions? 2CDs, 3CDs, and3CD and 1 DVD? (and I predict that $75 price will come way down)

Give it a few months - you'll find it in the $10.99 bargain bin. It's now obvious why WB sat on it after P delivered it.

[Edited 4/28/17 4:51am]

"I like to watch."
Reply #378 posted 04/28/17 4:35am

Dibblekins

Well, I am gutted...

.

I soooo wanted a properly released version of the First Avenue gig on DVD - over and above the Syraceuse concert, fabulous as that may be.

.

I like the 'studio' EI - but the First Avenue live version is breath-taking - I'd have liked to have had them both in physical format, highest quality possible, to compare.

.

WB has let me down on this - I am sure I can't be the only one...I could kind of forgive the '2 albums of unreleased material' as what we have is a conventional 2 albums' worth - on one CD. However, the failure to deliver the 2 concerts (as was widely believed was coming) isn't really acceptable, to my mind anyway. sad

Reply #379 posted 04/28/17 4:46am

jaawwnn

Hey, at least being a hardcore fan won't lose its lustre, we still have to keep our copies of Work It.

Reply #380 posted 04/28/17 4:56am

TweetyV6

PURPLE RAIN (3CD/DVD) - DELUXE EXPANDED EDITION


Disc One: Original Album (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)
Disc Two: From The Vault & Previously Unreleased
Disc Three: Single Edits & B-Sides

DVD: Prince And The Revolution, Live at the Carrier Dome, Syracuse, NY, March 30, 1985

AUS$ 75

https://store.warnermusic.com.au/products/purple-rain-3cd-dvd-deluxe-expanded-edition

___________________________________________________________________________________

All thinking men are Atheists - Hemingway

P.s. If you find spelling errors, you may keep them
Reply #381 posted 04/28/17 5:00am

jaypotton

SquirrelMeat said:

I wonder if we'll see some of the tracks appear from collectors in the coming weeks now that their value is about to be wiped out.

Also, am I the only one that thinks The Dance Electric should feature on an ATWIAD remaster and not PR? It was clearly recorded post PR and in the sessions that led to ATWIAD and The Family.


I agree. I think they have grouped together by style rather than date of recordings (ie Dance Electric sounds like it could have fitted on Purple Rain).

Still can't believe the deviation from the original press release! I bet no explanation will be forthcoming either!
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #382 posted 04/28/17 5:14am

Crump

jaawwnn said:

Hey, at least being a hardcore fan won't lose its lustre, we still have to keep our copies of Work It.


What would be the most comprehensive outtakes collection currently?

I have The Work V2 but there is no traffic jam or more recent leaks. Any help much appreciated.

Reply #383 posted 04/28/17 5:18am

oliviacamron

highcalonic said:

So, no First Avenue in the PR deluxe set, really disappointed !!!


I know. So disappointing sad .
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
Reply #384 posted 04/28/17 5:18am

tmcjb

Crump said:

jaawwnn said:

Hey, at least being a hardcore fan won't lose its lustre, we still have to keep our copies of Work It.


What would be the most comprehensive outtakes collection currently?

I have The Work V2 but there is no traffic jam or more recent leaks. Any help much appreciated.

Same here, I'm new to the outtakes thing. Would love some pointers/recommendations.

"Like the drummer said, you got to die."
Reply #385 posted 04/28/17 5:24am

skipthecharades

OnlyNDaUsa said:

so are there 3 versions? 2CDs, 3CDs, and3CD and 1 DVD? (and I predict that $75 price will come way down)

If I understood correct the 3CD version is digital only.

Reply #386 posted 04/28/17 5:36am

RODSERLING

sulls said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

so are there 3 versions? 2CDs, 3CDs, and3CD and 1 DVD? (and I predict that $75 price will come way down)

Give it a few months - you'll find it in the $10.99 bargain bin. It's now obvious why WB sat on it after P delivered it.

[Edited 4/28/17 4:51am]

It was supposed to be released in 2014 for the 30th anniversary.

But Prince only delivered it to them in 2015 ?!

.

I still don't understand why WB accepted to release AOA / PLEC ELEC instead. That is an obvious lack of commercial sense.

Or, like I repeat since 2014, it's because Prince only accepted to give 2 or 3 songs. There was also supposed to have huge promotion "a la Diamonds and pearls" according to Funk-U at the time. I still think WB sat on it, simply because without Prince's involvement and promotion, it was not worth selling it.

.

Now that he's dead, they can pick the songs they want in their personnal vault. Because Prince gave them some songs that were initially supposed to be on the album. WB was always involved with the selection of tracks of his albums, even with COME. And remember the SOTT and 1999 episode, a 3 disc set that were cut into two.

.

I don't think WB have the original tape. I could be wrong on this. But they are supposed to be in the vault, still unlocked.This is all bootleg, that they enhanced to some degree.

Reply #387 posted 04/28/17 5:38am

feeluupp

RODSERLING said:

sulls said:

Give it a few months - you'll find it in the $10.99 bargain bin. It's now obvious why WB sat on it after P delivered it.

[Edited 4/28/17 4:51am]

It was supposed to be released in 2014 for the 30th anniversary.

But Prince only delivered it to them in 2015 ?!

.

I still don't understand why WB accepted to release AOA / PLEC ELEC instead. That is an obvious lack of commercial sense.

Or, like I repeat since 2014, it's because Prince only accepted to give 2 or 3 songs. There was also supposed to have huge promotion "a la Diamonds and pearls" according to Funk-U at the time. I still think WB sat on it, simply because without Prince's involvement and promotion, it was not worth selling it.

.

Now that he's dead, they can pick the songs they want in their personnal vault. Because Prince gave them some songs that were initially supposed to be on the album. WB was always involved with the selection of tracks of his albums, even with COME. And remember the SOTT and 1999 episode, a 3 disc set that were cut into two.

.

I don't think WB have the original tape. I could be wrong on this. But they are supposed to be in the vault, still unlocked.This is all bootleg, that they enhanced to some degree.

ROD my friend... You are... Always... Wrong... Always Wrong Rod... Always.

Reply #388 posted 04/28/17 5:39am

rdhull

Image may contain: one or more people, people sitting and indoor

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #389 posted 04/28/17 5:43am

RODSERLING

tmcjb said:

Official press release, per Dr. Funkenberry:

http://www.drfunkenberry....pre-order/

This is all amateurism here : WB says that PURPLE RAIN sold 13 millions in the US. But his sales exceded 15 million, and are probably now standing at 15.7 millions. By the end of the year, it will reach the 16 million mark in the USA (if they ever promote it, of course eek )

.

Wouldn't it be the right time for WB to recertify this album ? It will make great publicity to officially reach the 15 million mark, and recertify it some weeks later with the 16 million mark.

.

PURPLE RAIN is in fact one the 15 best selling album of all time in the USA. This is not uninteresting in a press release to communicate. This would be a good reminder that Prince was a huge seller.

Reply #390 posted 04/28/17 5:45am

feeluupp

RODSERLING said:

tmcjb said:

Official press release, per Dr. Funkenberry:

http://www.drfunkenberry....pre-order/

This is all amateurism here : WB says that PURPLE RAIN sold 13 millions in the US. But his sales exceded 15 million, and are probably now standing at 15.7 millions. By the end of the year, it will reach the 16 million mark in the USA (if they ever promote it, of course eek )

.

Wouldn't it be the right time for WB to recertify this album ? It will make great publicity to officially reach the 15 million mark, and recertify it some weeks later with the 16 million mark.

.

PURPLE RAIN is in fact one the 15 best selling album of all time in the USA. This is not uninteresting in a press release to communicate. This would be a good reminder that Prince was a huge seller.

Sadly last time Purple Rain was certified was in 1996 with 13x Million in the USA.

Surely it has sold over a million since then...

Reply #391 posted 04/28/17 5:48am

RODSERLING

From WB press release :

."In its initial run, the theatrical musical generated over $220 million worldwide at the box office against an estimated $7.2 million budget"

.

.

Not true. They inflated the worldwide grossing, but not the production budget.

Reply #392 posted 04/28/17 5:50am

RODSERLING

feeluupp said:

RODSERLING said:

It was supposed to be released in 2014 for the 30th anniversary.

But Prince only delivered it to them in 2015 ?!

.

I still don't understand why WB accepted to release AOA / PLEC ELEC instead. That is an obvious lack of commercial sense.

Or, like I repeat since 2014, it's because Prince only accepted to give 2 or 3 songs. There was also supposed to have huge promotion "a la Diamonds and pearls" according to Funk-U at the time. I still think WB sat on it, simply because without Prince's involvement and promotion, it was not worth selling it.

.

Now that he's dead, they can pick the songs they want in their personnal vault. Because Prince gave them some songs that were initially supposed to be on the album. WB was always involved with the selection of tracks of his albums, even with COME. And remember the SOTT and 1999 episode, a 3 disc set that were cut into two.

.

I don't think WB have the original tape. I could be wrong on this. But they are supposed to be in the vault, still unlocked.This is all bootleg, that they enhanced to some degree.

ROD my friend... You are... Always... Wrong... Always Wrong Rod... Always.

No FEELUUP.... You are... Always... Wrong... Always Wrong FEELUUP... Always.

Reply #393 posted 04/28/17 5:50am

RODSERLING

feeluupp said:

RODSERLING said:

This is all amateurism here : WB says that PURPLE RAIN sold 13 millions in the US. But his sales exceded 15 million, and are probably now standing at 15.7 millions. By the end of the year, it will reach the 16 million mark in the USA (if they ever promote it, of course eek )

.

Wouldn't it be the right time for WB to recertify this album ? It will make great publicity to officially reach the 15 million mark, and recertify it some weeks later with the 16 million mark.

.

PURPLE RAIN is in fact one the 15 best selling album of all time in the USA. This is not uninteresting in a press release to communicate. This would be a good reminder that Prince was a huge seller.

Sadly last time Purple Rain was certified was in 1996 with 13x Million in the USA.

Surely it has sold over a million since then...

It sold 2.7 millions since then.

Reply #394 posted 04/28/17 5:57am

OnlyNDaUsa

RODSERLING said:

feeluupp said:

ROD my friend... You are... Always... Wrong... Always Wrong Rod... Always.

No FEELUUP.... You are... Always... Wrong... Always Wrong FEELUUP... Always.

okay okay you both can be wrong...always... both...something about a sandwich... wrong with a pickle

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #395 posted 04/28/17 6:00am

TheEnglishGent

OnlyNDaUsa said:

 



RODSERLING said:


 



feeluupp said:


 


 


ROD my friend... You are... Always... Wrong... Always Wrong Rod... Always. 



No FEELUUP.... You are... Always... Wrong... Always Wrong FEELUUP... Always.



 


 


okay okay you both can be wrong...always... both...something about a sandwich... wrong with a pickle


spit
RIP sad
Reply #396 posted 04/28/17 6:03am

rusty1

"The release will have 2 albums of unreleased
material & TWO concerts from the vault"

Boy did they lie too us..
Why did the release suddenly change
With 1 disc of unreleased songs &
Only one concert.
I'm very dissappointed with this news
BOB4theFUNK
Reply #397 posted 04/28/17 6:05am

thebiscuit

Can't get enough of this track. Pure '83/84 Prince. Long may it rain (purple). Curious - anyone know if Susan Rogers had anything to do with the mastering of the unreleased tracks? EI sounds great.
[Edited 4/28/17 6:06am]
Reply #398 posted 04/28/17 6:07am

RODSERLING

rusty1 said:

"The release will have 2 albums of unreleased material & TWO concerts from the vault" Boy did they lie too us.. Why did the release suddenly change With 1 disc of unreleased songs & Only one concert. I'm very dissappointed with this news

They don't even have the balls to adress the matter in their amateurist press release; released 5 days after the leak of the news.

Reply #399 posted 04/28/17 6:11am

getxxxx

OnlyNDaUsa said:

so are there 3 versions? 2CDs, 3CDs, and3CD and 1 DVD? (and I predict that $75 price will come way down)

that $75 is AU not USA $$$$$ geesh

75 AUD = 55.95345 USD

[Edited 4/28/17 6:13am]

Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman
Reply #400 posted 04/28/17 6:16am

thebiscuit

'The two-CD Purple Rain Deluxe set includes the official 2015 Paisley Park Remaster of the original tapes from the soundtrack, presenting an unheard vision of the album overseen by Prince himself.' This is interesting. Anyone else think we may get a vastly different version of the album? Jehovah's Witness Prince might have made some big changes to Darling Nikki for example.
Reply #401 posted 04/28/17 6:17am

Militant

moderator

thebiscuit said:

'The two-CD Purple Rain Deluxe set includes the official 2015 Paisley Park Remaster of the original tapes from the soundtrack, presenting an unheard vision of the album overseen by Prince himself.' This is interesting. Anyone else think we may get a vastly different version of the album? Jehovah's Witness Prince might have made some big changes to Darling Nikki for example.

He oversaw it, no edits made.

Reply #402 posted 04/28/17 6:20am

Dazza

Biggs31 said:

This is all very exciting!

I'd always assumed that a 'studio' version of Electric Intercourse would be mastered from the live performance, like some of the other Purple Rain tracks. So it's great to have a different version. Having said that, the live version was killer!

Wonderful Ass is my jam so can't wait to hear a fully mastered version!

I'm with you - can't wait.

Green virgin teenager, or filthy rich yuppy. Pussy cat pussy cat, where for out thou puppy
Reply #403 posted 04/28/17 6:26am

SquirrelMeat

I'd be very suprised if the content of all 3 discs was not decided by anyone but Prince.

He clearly backed the project and was dipping back into the vault (I'm sure the 2014 performance of Electric Intercourse was no coincidence).

Contractually, the artist normally presents the work, and I very much doubt, with the current state of the estate that WB could release anything from the vault that wasn't already contractually sealed. They estate said they played no part in 4Ever and I doubt in PR.

I think Prince gave them finished packages of 4Ever and PR (possibly in Feb 2015). Maybe someone like Susan Rogers has been involved. She might do the liner notes.

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Reply #404 posted 04/28/17 6:28am

RaspBerryGirlFriend

Crump said:

jaawwnn said:

Hey, at least being a hardcore fan won't lose its lustre, we still have to keep our copies of Work It.


What would be the most comprehensive outtakes collection currently?

I have The Work V2 but there is no traffic jam or more recent leaks. Any help much appreciated.

I don't think there's been a big comprehensive outtake collection that supersedes Work It 2.0, if you're looking for more recent stuff your best bet would probably be trying to find ripped copies of Eye Records' Blast From The Past series. There are 3 volumes and although they're certainly not great and mostly just rip off free releases they do compile the majority of new circulating stuff that you'd want.

Heavenly wine and roses seems to whisper to me when you smile...
Always cry for love, never cry for pain...
Reply #405 posted 04/28/17 6:44am

Crump

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

Crump said:


What would be the most comprehensive outtakes collection currently?

I have The Work V2 but there is no traffic jam or more recent leaks. Any help much appreciated.

I don't think there's been a big comprehensive outtake collection that supersedes Work It 2.0, if you're looking for more recent stuff your best bet would probably be trying to find ripped copies of Eye Records' Blast From The Past series. There are 3 volumes and although they're certainly not great and mostly just rip off free releases they do compile the majority of new circulating stuff that you'd want.


Many thanks, I will have a dig

Reply #406 posted 04/28/17 6:44am

BoraBora

SquirrelMeat said:

I'd be very suprised if the content of all 3 discs was not decided by anyone but Prince.

He clearly backed the project and was dipping back into the vault (I'm sure the 2014 performance of Electric Intercourse was no coincidence).

Contractually, the artist normally presents the work, and I very much doubt, with the current state of the estate that WB could release anything from the vault that wasn't already contractually sealed. They estate said they played no part in 4Ever and I doubt in PR.

I think Prince gave them finished packages of 4Ever and PR (possibly in Feb 2015). Maybe someone like Susan Rogers has been involved. She might do the liner notes.


I agree with you, even if it seems impossible to believe that a song with a title like "We Can Fuck" was actually chosen by P.

That said, I have to say that I don't undestand all this negativity for the set, and especially for the edits/mixes CD.
I, for one, I'm very happy to finally have "God (Instrumental)" and "Another Lonely Christmas (Extended)" on an official CD.

And we are talking of an archival box set, so the inclusion of any audio release linked to the era to me seems absolutely right.

But even accepting conceptually the negativity..... can we go on with all that after seeing the actual price the expanded deluxe will be sell?!?!?!?

Come on, I'd pay that price for the only second disc.

I was expecting prices a lot higher (look at the archival McCartney, to say one).... in this way it looks at a real bargain.


Reply #407 posted 04/28/17 6:46am

feeluupp

RODSERLING said:

feeluupp said:

Sadly last time Purple Rain was certified was in 1996 with 13x Million in the USA.

Surely it has sold over a million since then...

It sold 2.7 millions since then.

Which should bring the sales to almost 16 million... Shame the RIAA didn't recertify it... They certainly recertify The Eagles Greatest Hits, Back in Black and Thriller every year...

Reply #408 posted 04/28/17 6:49am

RODSERLING

SquirrelMeat said:

I'd be very suprised if the content of all 3 discs was not decided by anyone but Prince.

He clearly backed the project and was dipping back into the vault (I'm sure the 2014 performance of Electric Intercourse was no coincidence).

Contractually, the artist normally presents the work, and I very much doubt, with the current state of the estate that WB could release anything from the vault that wasn't already contractually sealed. They estate said they played no part in 4Ever and I doubt in PR.

I think Prince gave them finished packages of 4Ever and PR (possibly in Feb 2015). Maybe someone like Susan Rogers has been involved. She might do the liner notes.

This is highly doubtful.

Prince's unreleased songs were his asset for future releases of his own album as an independant artist. He would have never sold it to WB.

And he would have never released tracks such as "Wonderfull ass" or "we can fuck", that's insane.

.

If he really gave to them the whole CD2, then WB would have never wait 3 years to release it, that's beyond ridiculous. It was even recently pushed back to june 16th, then now june 23th...

Reply #409 posted 04/28/17 6:51am

RODSERLING

feeluupp said:

RODSERLING said:

It sold 2.7 millions since then.

Which should bring the sales to almost 16 million... Shame the RIAA didn't recertify it... They certainly recertify The Eagles Greatest Hits, Back in Black and Thriller every year...

Once their contract with Prince was over, they had no interest in recertify Prince's catalogue.

.

I don't know what are they waiting for now.

Reply #410 posted 04/28/17 6:58am

getxxxx

Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman
Reply #411 posted 04/28/17 7:11am

djThunderfunk

As we've dropped from the expected 4CD/2DVD to 3CD/1DVD, I'm no longer expecting a "deluxe box" that will look awesome displayed on a shelf. Guessing the packaging will be minimal as well?

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
Reply #412 posted 04/28/17 7:19am

JudasSmile

From the press release:

Six tracks that have never been released or distributed in the collector or bootleg community include: “Possessed” – the ’83 Prince solo version, never heard before; “Electric Intercourse”- the studio version not known to exist before it was discovered at Paisley Park; “Father’s Song” – a full, five plus minute version that prior to this fans could only find a minute and half snippet of in the movie; “We Can Fuck” – a track that has never circulated as the full, 10 minute version with these lyrics; and “Katrina’s Paper Dolls” – a finished master of the song, which has previously only circulated as a demo. Additionally, all of the material is taken from the source and mastered by Bernie Grundman, the mastering engineer who worked on the original album.

---

I'm looking forward to hearing all of CD 3.

U been bamboozled, hoodwinked, took.
Reply #413 posted 04/28/17 7:26am

BoraBora

JudasSmile said:

From the press release:

Six tracks that have never been released or distributed in the collector or bootleg community include: “Possessed” – the ’83 Prince solo version, never heard before; “Electric Intercourse”- the studio version not known to exist before it was discovered at Paisley Park; “Father’s Song” – a full, five plus minute version that prior to this fans could only find a minute and half snippet of in the movie; “We Can Fuck” – a track that has never circulated as the full, 10 minute version with these lyrics; and “Katrina’s Paper Dolls” – a finished master of the song, which has previously only circulated as a demo. Additionally, all of the material is taken from the source and mastered by Bernie Grundman, the mastering engineer who worked on the original album.

---

I'm looking forward to hearing all of CD 3.



Well, they listed 5 tracks and there is also as 6th "Love & Sex" that AFAIK isn't circulating in any version.

So "Velvet Kitty Cat" is exactly the same recently leaked?!?!?


Reply #414 posted 04/28/17 7:28am

TheEnglishGent

JudasSmile said:

---

I'm looking forward to hearing all of CD 3.

Me too.

RIP sad
Reply #415 posted 04/28/17 7:32am

bluegangsta

djThunderfunk said:

As we've dropped from the expected 4CD/2DVD to 3CD/1DVD,

4CD? The press release said "two albums of unreleased material", so those plus the original is just 3.

BoraBora said:

Well, they listed 5 tracks and there is also as 6th "Love & Sex" that AFAIK isn't circulating in any version.

A snippet Love & Sex, as played by Questlove.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #416 posted 04/28/17 7:39am

djThunderfunk

bluegangsta said:

djThunderfunk said:

As we've dropped from the expected 4CD/2DVD to 3CD/1DVD,

4CD? The press release said "two albums of unreleased material", so those plus the original is just 3.


Don't remember if it was from a press release, rumour, or if somebody here just pulled it out of their ass... but, pretty sure that's how it was being described at one point.

That said, so many different things have been said and so much has been wrong, so, whatevs... wink

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
Reply #417 posted 04/28/17 7:41am

TheEnglishGent

djThunderfunk said:

bluegangsta said:

4CD? The press release said "two albums of unreleased material", so those plus the original is just 3.


Don't remember if it was from a press release, rumour, or if somebody here just pulled it out of their ass... but, pretty sure that's how it was being described at one point.

That said, so many different things have been said and so much has been wrong, so, whatevs... wink

I'm sure it was a Warner press release which stated there would be two albums of unreleased music.


Here's the Rolling Stone article about it : http://www.rollingstone.c...ic-w466431

[Edited 4/28/17 7:44am]

RIP sad
Reply #418 posted 04/28/17 7:47am

tmcjb

thebiscuit said:

'The two-CD Purple Rain Deluxe set includes the official 2015 Paisley Park Remaster of the original tapes from the soundtrack, presenting an unheard vision of the album overseen by Prince himself.' This is interesting. Anyone else think we may get a vastly different version of the album? Jehovah's Witness Prince might have made some big changes to Darling Nikki for example.

The new Darling Nikki is still listed as "Explicit" on iTunes. I don't think there's anything to worry about.

"Like the drummer said, you got to die."
Reply #419 posted 04/28/17 7:51am

Atty

So we've gone from two albums of unreleased material and two live concert DVDs, to one album and one concert?

This is fucking ridiculous.

Reply #420 posted 04/28/17 7:53am

fen

TheEnglishGent said:

djThunderfunk said:


Don't remember if it was from a press release, rumour, or if somebody here just pulled it out of their ass... but, pretty sure that's how it was being described at one point.

That said, so many different things have been said and so much has been wrong, so, whatevs... wink

I'm sure it was a Warner press release which stated there would be two albums of unreleased music.


Here's the Rolling Stone article about it : http://www.rollingstone.c...ic-w466431

[Edited 4/28/17 7:44am]

Well, that was the only “source” that I ever saw. A case of lazy, inaccurate reporting and Chinese Whispers?

http://www.rollingstone.c...ic-w466431

Reply #421 posted 04/28/17 8:07am

Romeoblu

Really pleased to finally be able to pre order this set.

I just hope Sifi is wrong and Our Destiny does have a Prince vocal.

Electric Intercourse is great, I'm kind of pleased how it differs from the live version, not sure which I prefer but it's great to have both.

Reply #422 posted 04/28/17 8:10am

Romeoblu

Really pleased to finally be able to pre order this set.

I just hope Sifi is wrong and Our Destiny does have a Prince vocal.

Electric Intercourse is great, I'm kind of pleased how it differs from the live version, not sure which I prefer but it's great to have both.

Reply #423 posted 04/28/17 8:11am

IstenSzek

Six tracks that have never been released or distributed in the collector or bootleg community include: “Possessed” – the ’83 Prince solo version, never heard before; “Electric Intercourse”- the studio version not known to exist before it was discovered at Paisley Park; “Father’s Song” – a full, five plus minute version that prior to this fans could only find a minute and half snippet of in the movie; “We Can Fuck” – a track that has never circulated as the full, 10 minute version with these lyrics; and “Katrina’s Paper Dolls” – a finished master of the song, which has previously only circulated as a demo. Additionally, all of the material is taken from the source and mastered by Bernie Grundman, the mastering engineer who worked on the original album.



so what are we to make of that? before it was discovered at paisley park? lol

that completely contradicts prince handing them this material, as i think we
can be pretty sure that prince didn't need to discover that he'd recorded a
studio version of Electric Intercourse lol

they also seem to have a pretty good knowledge about what is and is not
circulating among collectors. even an average org visitor probably doesn't
know exactly the differences between what versions of Possessed are out
there in the small trade circle, or how many versions of Katrina etc.

it's also pretty fcking coincidental that Velvet Kitty Cat of all songs leaked
last year, in good quality. and that Roadhouse Garden followed a bit later.


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #424 posted 04/28/17 8:13am

Romeoblu

BoraBora said:

JudasSmile said:

From the press release:

Six tracks that have never been released or distributed in the collector or bootleg community include: “Possessed” – the ’83 Prince solo version, never heard before; “Electric Intercourse”- the studio version not known to exist before it was discovered at Paisley Park; “Father’s Song” – a full, five plus minute version that prior to this fans could only find a minute and half snippet of in the movie; “We Can Fuck” – a track that has never circulated as the full, 10 minute version with these lyrics; and “Katrina’s Paper Dolls” – a finished master of the song, which has previously only circulated as a demo. Additionally, all of the material is taken from the source and mastered by Bernie Grundman, the mastering engineer who worked on the original album.

---

I'm looking forward to hearing all of CD 3.



Well, they listed 5 tracks and there is also as 6th "Love & Sex" that AFAIK isn't circulating in any version.

So "Velvet Kitty Cat" is exactly the same recently leaked?!?!?


It says Katrinas Paper Dolls has only previously circulated as a demo. I've never heard that before.

Reply #425 posted 04/28/17 8:22am

fen

Romeoblu said:

BoraBora said:



Well, they listed 5 tracks and there is also as 6th "Love & Sex" that AFAIK isn't circulating in any version.

So "Velvet Kitty Cat" is exactly the same recently leaked?!?!?


It says Katrinas Paper Dolls has only previously circulated as a demo. I've never heard that before.

No, neither have I (apart from an inaccurately labelled, unrelated track). Some here appear to have heard it though, so I guess they're referring to a demo circulating among elite collectors. Or I've missed something.

Reply #426 posted 04/28/17 8:23am

7salles

I liked very much this version of EI. But somehow it sounds like he recorded an harmony line instead of the main melody line.

Like this: he did harmony over the original melody and then took out the main melody and we are hearing him singing the second voice. lol

Maybe i am tripping.

Reply #427 posted 04/28/17 8:36am

SuperFurryAnimal

Mother fucking Warner Bros

I AM AMERICAN. ANTI-COMMUNIST. ANTI-FASCIST.
Reply #428 posted 04/28/17 8:54am

jjam

Atty said:

So we've gone from two albums of unreleased material and two live concert DVDs, to one album and one concert?

This is fucking ridiculous.

It is.

Reply #429 posted 04/28/17 8:55am

Romeoblu

IstenSzek said:

Six tracks that have never been released or distributed in the collector or bootleg community include: “Possessed” – the ’83 Prince solo version, never heard before; “Electric Intercourse”- the studio version not known to exist before it was discovered at Paisley Park; “Father’s Song” – a full, five plus minute version that prior to this fans could only find a minute and half snippet of in the movie; “We Can Fuck” – a track that has never circulated as the full, 10 minute version with these lyrics; and “Katrina’s Paper Dolls” – a finished master of the song, which has previously only circulated as a demo. Additionally, all of the material is taken from the source and mastered by Bernie Grundman, the mastering engineer who worked on the original album.



so what are we to make of that? before it was discovered at paisley park? lol

that completely contradicts prince handing them this material, as i think we
can be pretty sure that prince didn't need to discover that he'd recorded a
studio version of Electric Intercourse lol

they also seem to have a pretty good knowledge about what is and is not
circulating among collectors. even an average org visitor probably doesn't
know exactly the differences between what versions of Possessed are out
there in the small trade circle, or how many versions of Katrina etc. 

it's also pretty fcking coincidental that Velvet Kitty Cat of all songs leaked
last year, in good quality. and that Roadhouse Garden followed a bit later. 
 



I do wonder if this release is where those leaks came from. I really like the recent leaked version of roadhouse but was kind of hoping this version would be different and more in line with the much harder funky live version. Also I need Prince to be on lead vocals for our destiny.
Reply #430 posted 04/28/17 8:56am

E319

Can SiFi provide any inside info on what happened to the 2nd live concert dvd? Was that ever really planned or was that just a rumor? And if it was planned, what happened to it?

[Edited 4/28/17 8:57am]

Reply #431 posted 04/28/17 8:56am

ThirdStrike

So, is there an outlet yet which US fans can pre-order physical copies of whichever set they chose (Deluxe or Deluxe/Expanded)? So far, I've only seen through EB AUS. Not digital copies mind you. Physical ones...

Reply #432 posted 04/28/17 9:01am

tmcjb

ThirdStrike said:

So, is there an outlet yet which US fans can pre-order physical copies of whichever set they chose (Deluxe or Deluxe/Expanded)? So far, I've only seen through EB AUS. Not digital copies mind you. Physical ones...

Physical copies are on Amazon now, but you can't pre-order it yet. Probably by the end of the day.

Personally I'm surprised that there isn't any package with the movie in it.

[Edited 4/28/17 9:01am]

"Like the drummer said, you got to die."
Reply #433 posted 04/28/17 9:03am

brassneck

tmcjb said:

ThirdStrike said:

So, is there an outlet yet which US fans can pre-order physical copies of whichever set they chose (Deluxe or Deluxe/Expanded)? So far, I've only seen through EB AUS. Not digital copies mind you. Physical ones...

Physical copies are on Amazon now, but you can't pre-order it yet. Probably by the end of the day.

Personally I'm surprised that there isn't any package with the movie in it.

[Edited 4/28/17 9:01am]

The "official" Prince store is up just now with all physical editions listed: http://store.officialprin...sic-1.html

*** Site also includes a separate Purple Rain picture disc pre-order!

[Edited 4/28/17 9:05am]

[Edited 4/28/17 9:05am]

Reply #434 posted 04/28/17 9:07am

laurarichardson

IstenSzek said:

Six tracks that have never been released or distributed in the collector or bootleg community include: “Possessed” – the ’83 Prince solo version, never heard before; “Electric Intercourse”- the studio version not known to exist before it was discovered at Paisley Park; “Father’s Song” – a full, five plus minute version that prior to this fans could only find a minute and half snippet of in the movie; “We Can Fuck” – a track that has never circulated as the full, 10 minute version with these lyrics; and “Katrina’s Paper Dolls” – a finished master of the song, which has previously only circulated as a demo. Additionally, all of the material is taken from the source and mastered by Bernie Grundman, the mastering engineer who worked on the original album.



so what are we to make of that? before it was discovered at paisley park? lol

that completely contradicts prince handing them this material, as i think we
can be pretty sure that prince didn't need to discover that he'd recorded a
studio version of Electric Intercourse lol

they also seem to have a pretty good knowledge about what is and is not
circulating among collectors. even an average org visitor probably doesn't
know exactly the differences between what versions of Possessed are out
there in the small trade circle, or how many versions of Katrina etc.

it's also pretty fcking coincidental that Velvet Kitty Cat of all songs leaked
last year, in good quality. and that Roadhouse Garden followed a bit later.


One of the articles in the news today said he worked on this project so if that is true I doubt he stubbled across anything unless that is the story he told WB.

Reply #435 posted 04/28/17 9:07am

purplethunder3121

Atty said:

So we've gone from two albums of unreleased material and two live concert DVDs, to one album and one concert?

This is fucking ridiculous.

confused

Find strength in that which remains...
Reply #436 posted 04/28/17 9:11am

IstenSzek

Romeoblu said:

IstenSzek said:

Six tracks that have never been released or distributed in the collector or bootleg community include: “Possessed” – the ’83 Prince solo version, never heard before; “Electric Intercourse”- the studio version not known to exist before it was discovered at Paisley Park; “Father’s Song” – a full, five plus minute version that prior to this fans could only find a minute and half snippet of in the movie; “We Can Fuck” – a track that has never circulated as the full, 10 minute version with these lyrics; and “Katrina’s Paper Dolls” – a finished master of the song, which has previously only circulated as a demo. Additionally, all of the material is taken from the source and mastered by Bernie Grundman, the mastering engineer who worked on the original album.



so what are we to make of that? before it was discovered at paisley park? lol

that completely contradicts prince handing them this material, as i think we
can be pretty sure that prince didn't need to discover that he'd recorded a
studio version of Electric Intercourse lol

they also seem to have a pretty good knowledge about what is and is not
circulating among collectors. even an average org visitor probably doesn't
know exactly the differences between what versions of Possessed are out
there in the small trade circle, or how many versions of Katrina etc.

it's also pretty fcking coincidental that Velvet Kitty Cat of all songs leaked
last year, in good quality. and that Roadhouse Garden followed a bit later.


I do wonder if this release is where those leaks came from. I really like the recent leaked version of roadhouse but was kind of hoping this version would be different and more in line with the much harder funky live version. Also I need Prince to be on lead vocals for our destiny.


no matter where the leaks came from, i think it's pretty shitty when people, either traders
with inside info on an upcoming release or even people working on the release at warners
or whomever, leak tracks like these when they know that they will be on the next release.

it's one thing (a glorious, wonderful thing) to get something like "come elektra tuesday" or
"adonis and bathsheba" when a possible release is nowhere in sight on the horizon. but for
someone to leak a track from this project, after holding on to it for a decade or more while
dropping hints here and there, is kind of spoiling the fun for everyone who is waiting for the
official release.

these people have to know we have no fucking self control lol

i've been half expecting someone to leak Katrina any day now. i mean, what's the point at
this stage? just wait until the whole package is out and then leak some of the alternate
versions. but hey, that would be too logical. nothing in prince land is logical, on either side
of the fence, either official or bootleg.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #437 posted 04/28/17 9:15am

IstenSzek

laurarichardson said:

IstenSzek said:

Six tracks that have never been released or distributed in the collector or bootleg community include: “Possessed” – the ’83 Prince solo version, never heard before; “Electric Intercourse”- the studio version not known to exist before it was discovered at Paisley Park; “Father’s Song” – a full, five plus minute version that prior to this fans could only find a minute and half snippet of in the movie; “We Can Fuck” – a track that has never circulated as the full, 10 minute version with these lyrics; and “Katrina’s Paper Dolls” – a finished master of the song, which has previously only circulated as a demo. Additionally, all of the material is taken from the source and mastered by Bernie Grundman, the mastering engineer who worked on the original album.



so what are we to make of that? before it was discovered at paisley park? lol

that completely contradicts prince handing them this material, as i think we
can be pretty sure that prince didn't need to discover that he'd recorded a
studio version of Electric Intercourse lol

they also seem to have a pretty good knowledge about what is and is not
circulating among collectors. even an average org visitor probably doesn't
know exactly the differences between what versions of Possessed are out
there in the small trade circle, or how many versions of Katrina etc.

it's also pretty fcking coincidental that Velvet Kitty Cat of all songs leaked
last year, in good quality. and that Roadhouse Garden followed a bit later.


One of the articles in the news today said he worked on this project so if that is true I doubt he stubbled across anything unless that is the story he told WB.



first they said bernie grundman did the remaster, now it's just 'paisley park remaster' done by
prince himself? why is everything about this release so vague?

unless they explain a lot of this shit in the linernotes to the physical release i'll just go on my
gut feeling and see this as a release that they put together with bits and bobs they had in their
own vault since forever. (i.e. disc 2)

too many things don't add up for it to be put together by prince. even if you only look at the
explicit 'new' songs included. no way.

that's not a problem for me either, but just be honest about what it is and who did what.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #438 posted 04/28/17 9:15am

ThirdStrike

brassneck said:

tmcjb said:

Physical copies are on Amazon now, but you can't pre-order it yet. Probably by the end of the day.

Personally I'm surprised that there isn't any package with the movie in it.

[Edited 4/28/17 9:01am]

The "official" Prince store is up just now with all physical editions listed: http://store.officialprin...sic-1.html

*** Site also includes a separate Purple Rain picture disc pre-order!

[Edited 4/28/17 9:05am]

[Edited 4/28/17 9:05am]

Cool! Thanks!! It's actually a nice little store. It is official, right? And the expanded set at $33? Very reasonable for sure!

Reply #439 posted 04/28/17 9:16am

brassneck

ThirdStrike said:

brassneck said:

The "official" Prince store is up just now with all physical editions listed: http://store.officialprin...sic-1.html

*** Site also includes a separate Purple Rain picture disc pre-order!

[Edited 4/28/17 9:05am]

[Edited 4/28/17 9:05am]

Cool! Thanks!! It's actually a nice little store. It is official, right? And the expanded set at $33? Very reasonable for sure!

Yep, official. Warner Music charged my card.

Reply #440 posted 04/28/17 9:16am

DarkKnight1

Amazing. Goosebumps.

This WB release is a gift and homage to Prince fans and everyone should stfu. So much more to discover in the vault and we always have something to look forward to.

This track is on the Hot Tracks of ITunes. It takes some serious spins to be there. Right next to the great Frank Ocean.

[Edited 4/28/17 9:19am]

(Insert something clever here)
Reply #441 posted 04/28/17 9:18am

OnlyNDaUsa

amazon had the 2CD set on the US site but no price yet

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #442 posted 04/28/17 9:18am

donnyenglish

Deliverance and Montreux 2013 DVD remain the best releases since his passing by a long shot. The dude left a vault of thousands of treasures and the best they can do in over a year is one dvd of vault material? The Syracuse dvd and the singles/12 inch cd are truly disappointments. In the words of Billy Sparks "what a f&cking waste."

They delayed the release to give us this crap? I thought Susan Rodgers said they were taking their time to make it extra special. If this is the best they can do then folks need to just put the good stuff out there for free like they did with Montreux and Deiverance. Someone release Second Coming please. These companies, trustees and estate cant get their acts together.

Electric Intercouse sounds like an early version. It is interesting to hear because it shows how the song evolved. But, it almost ruins the live version for me. This studio version makes it an even bigger travesty that the August 1983 live DVD is not part of the box set. Non-Diehard fans won't know the brilliance of that song.

The absense of songs like G-Spot, Wednesday, etc. is also disappointing. Maybe they will release the August 1983 DVD, alternative cuts of the movie, outtakes from the movie, etc. with the re-release of the movie DVD. WB is good for breadcrumbing Prince fans. I feel like they lost a window of opportunity here.

Reply #443 posted 04/28/17 9:24am

ThirdStrike

brassneck said:

ThirdStrike said:

Cool! Thanks!! It's actually a nice little store. It is official, right? And the expanded set at $33? Very reasonable for sure!

Yep, official. Warner Music charged my card.

Already?!? I thought they don't charge until it's actually shipped?

Reply #444 posted 04/28/17 9:24am

donnyenglish

Think about this. So many Purple Rain Era live recordings and the one chance they get to release a DVD it is a recording that was already released over 30 years ago. Granted, it will be in better quality, but this is the best they can do as the first live DVD release over a year after his death? "Warner Brothers used to be a friend of mine and now they are just a monumental waste of time . . ."

Reply #445 posted 04/28/17 9:25am

brassneck

ThirdStrike said:

brassneck said:

Yep, official. Warner Music charged my card.

Already?!? I thought they don't charge until it's actually shipped?

It's "pending." We'll see. I know Amazon doesn't charge until items ship, but not all sites follow that standard.

Reply #446 posted 04/28/17 9:26am

OnlyNDaUsa

brassneck said:

ThirdStrike said:

Already?!? I thought they don't charge until it's actually shipped?

It's "pending." We'll see. I know Amazon doesn't charge until items ship, but not all sites follow that standard.

i will wait for amazon they have a better track record but at that price I will get it at wal mart before it is delivered anyway

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #447 posted 04/28/17 9:26am

MIRvmn

Romeoblu said:

IstenSzek said:

Six tracks that have never been released or distributed in the collector or bootleg community include: “Possessed” – the ’83 Prince solo version, never heard before; “Electric Intercourse”- the studio version not known to exist before it was discovered at Paisley Park; “Father’s Song” – a full, five plus minute version that prior to this fans could only find a minute and half snippet of in the movie; “We Can Fuck” – a track that has never circulated as the full, 10 minute version with these lyrics; and “Katrina’s Paper Dolls” – a finished master of the song, which has previously only circulated as a demo. Additionally, all of the material is taken from the source and mastered by Bernie Grundman, the mastering engineer who worked on the original album.



so what are we to make of that? before it was discovered at paisley park? lol

that completely contradicts prince handing them this material, as i think we
can be pretty sure that prince didn't need to discover that he'd recorded a
studio version of Electric Intercourse lol

they also seem to have a pretty good knowledge about what is and is not
circulating among collectors. even an average org visitor probably doesn't
know exactly the differences between what versions of Possessed are out
there in the small trade circle, or how many versions of Katrina etc. 

it's also pretty fcking coincidental that Velvet Kitty Cat of all songs leaked
last year, in good quality. and that Roadhouse Garden followed a bit later. 
 



I do wonder if this release is where those leaks came from. I really like the recent leaked version of roadhouse but was kind of hoping this version would be different and more in line with the much harder funky live version. Also I need Prince to be on lead vocals for our destiny.

Yes I was also hoping for a different version of Roadhouse Garden since I have the leaked one. This is turning out to be a major disappointment, to much stuff I already have/heard on PR Deluxe
Thunder, all through the night
Promise to see Jesus in the morning light
Take my hand, it'll be alright
C'mon save your soul tonight
Reply #448 posted 04/28/17 9:26am

laytonian

ThirdStrike said:

So, is there an outlet yet which US fans can pre-order physical copies of whichever set they chose (Deluxe or Deluxe/Expanded)?  So far, I've only seen through EB AUS.  Not digital copies mind you.  Physical ones...



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THIS.
Amazon only has MP3s available for pre-order and therefore no version with the concert DVD.
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I want a physical copy that I can put in my devices by myself. I do not want to depend on clouds and electronics.
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Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
Reply #449 posted 04/28/17 9:27am

MiceElfAgin

thebiscuit said:

'The two-CD Purple Rain Deluxe set includes the official 2015 Paisley Park Remaster of the original tapes from the soundtrack, presenting an unheard vision of the album overseen by Prince himself.' This is interesting. Anyone else think we may get a vastly different version of the album? Jehovah's Witness Prince might have made some big changes to Darling Nikki for example.

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It's labelled as "2015 PP Remaster", not "Remix" or "New Version" – so unless they are totally bonkers and don't know what they're talking about, this was remastered from the stereo master, not remixed from the multitracks, therefore it cannot contain any new recordings nor edits performed only on the vocal track.

Reply #450 posted 04/28/17 9:27am

Freek99999

really? the studio version of EI "almost ruins the live version" for you? some people have taken the art of complaining to levels I hadn't heard before...

Reply #451 posted 04/28/17 9:28am

OnlyNDaUsa

laytonian said:

ThirdStrike said:

So, is there an outlet yet which US fans can pre-order physical copies of whichever set they chose (Deluxe or Deluxe/Expanded)? So far, I've only seen through EB AUS. Not digital copies mind you. Physical ones...

. THIS. Amazon only has MP3s available for pre-order and therefore no version with the concert DVD. . I want a physical copy that I can put in my devices by myself. I do not want to depend on clouds and electronics. .

they will! just give them some time. they have the 2cd set listed but it is not finished... but they are working on it. and it is on many other amazon pages already for about $25 so it is okay it will be there soon.

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #452 posted 04/28/17 9:30am

OnlyNDaUsa

MiceElfAgin said:

thebiscuit said:

'The two-CD Purple Rain Deluxe set includes the official 2015 Paisley Park Remaster of the original tapes from the soundtrack, presenting an unheard vision of the album overseen by Prince himself.' This is interesting. Anyone else think we may get a vastly different version of the album? Jehovah's Witness Prince might have made some big changes to Darling Nikki for example.

.

It's labelled as "2015 PP Remaster", not "Remix" or "New Version" – so unless they are totally bonkers and don't know what they're talking about, this was remastered from the stereo master, not remixed from the multitracks, therefore it cannot contain any new recordings nor edits performed only on the vocal track.

Keep in mind that a remaster can also mean a new EQ which may alter some elements of the sound...

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #453 posted 04/28/17 9:31am

MiceElfAgin

brassneck said:

ThirdStrike said:

Already?!? I thought they don't charge until it's actually shipped?

It's "pending." We'll see. I know Amazon doesn't charge until items ship, but not all sites follow that standard.

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It's called 'authorisation hold'. Not actually charged until they're ready to ship the goods, but the amount becomes unavailable for you to spend on something else, unless your order is cancelled and the hold is lifted.

Reply #454 posted 04/28/17 9:33am

Militant

moderator

Who said Katrina's circulated as a demo?

Warners?

If so.... they are wrong.

A small handful of people have it. Of the collectors that I know who post on this site.... 2 that I know of. Also there are different versions of the song, so those people may not even have the same version.

There was a demo on YouTube labelled as Katrina's, but it was mislabelled and was actually Joy aka Paisley Park Instrumental.




Reply #455 posted 04/28/17 9:34am

MiceElfAgin

OnlyNDaUsa said:

MiceElfAgin said:

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It's labelled as "2015 PP Remaster", not "Remix" or "New Version" – so unless they are totally bonkers and don't know what they're talking about, this was remastered from the stereo master, not remixed from the multitracks, therefore it cannot contain any new recordings nor edits performed only on the vocal track.

Keep in mind that a remaster can also mean a new EQ which may alter some elements of the sound...

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I know – but we weren't talking about that. The post I replied to was worried about any changes in the lyrics and such. Not something that'd be possible at the mastering stage.

Reply #456 posted 04/28/17 9:37am

Strive

Amazon has a listing up for just the first two cds.

Purple Rain remains one of history’s most important, indisputable, and influential albums, but you’ve never heard it like this before. Purple Rain Deluxe boasts the official 2015 Paisley Park Remaster of the original tapes overseen by Prince himself in addition to a new “From The Vault & Previously Unreleased” disc with 11 unheard gems from the storied vault. This is Prince’s final word on his definitive masterpiece.

If you’ve never experienced Purple Rain, the 2-CD Deluxe Edition is the best place to start. It features both the 2015 Paisley Park Remaster as well as “From The Vault & Previously Unreleased.” It’s the perfect gateway into the world of Prince and Purple Rain
no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #457 posted 04/28/17 9:37am

OnlyNDaUsa

MiceElfAgin said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Keep in mind that a remaster can also mean a new EQ which may alter some elements of the sound...

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I know – but we weren't talking about that. The post I replied to was worried about any changes in the lyrics and such. Not something that'd be possible at the mastering stage.

no they could mute a given word or section if they choose...but I doubt they would

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #458 posted 04/28/17 9:39am

OnlyNDaUsa

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #459 posted 04/28/17 9:41am

fen

Militant said:

Who said Katrina's circulated as a demo?

Warners?

If so.... they are wrong.

A small handful of people have it. Of the collectors that I know who post on this site.... 2 that I know of. Also there are different versions of the song, so those people may not even have the same version.

There was a demo on YouTube labelled as Katrina's, but it was mislabelled and was actually Joy aka Paisley Park Instrumental.




They might argue that this qualifies as “circulating” then, albeit among a very small group of elite collectors.

Reply #460 posted 04/28/17 9:43am

MiceElfAgin

OnlyNDaUsa said:

MiceElfAgin said:

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I know – but we weren't talking about that. The post I replied to was worried about any changes in the lyrics and such. Not something that'd be possible at the mastering stage.

no they could mute a given word or section if they choose...but I doubt they would

.

No, you cannot mute a word or section from a mixed master without affecting the music too – and I sincerely hope they wouldn't butcher this one up like they did with Sexy MF.

Reply #461 posted 04/28/17 9:45am

brassneck

MiceElfAgin said:

 



brassneck said:


 



ThirdStrike said:


 


Already?!?  I thought they don't charge until it's actually shipped?



It's "pending." We'll see. I know Amazon doesn't charge until items ship, but not all sites follow that standard.



.
It's called 'authorisation hold'. Not actually charged until they're ready to ship the goods, but the amount becomes unavailable for you to spend on something else, unless your order is cancelled and the hold is lifted. 



I've pre-ordered plenty of items where the pending charge went through way before items shipped. Childish Gambino's web store charged me fully in December for his LP, which has still yet to ship.
Reply #462 posted 04/28/17 9:47am

NewpowerScarfo

OnlyNDaUsa said:

amazon US has it but no pre-sale and no price

" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0718ZCS6B/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493397491&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Purple+Rain+Deluxe+3cd

Of course. lol, I just want to pre order this and be done.

Reply #463 posted 04/28/17 9:48am

OnlyNDaUsa

MiceElfAgin said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

no they could mute a given word or section if they choose...but I doubt they would

.

No, you cannot mute a word or section from a mixed master without affecting the music too – and I sincerely hope they wouldn't butcher this one up like they did with Sexy MF.

but they could like they did on what was it? one of the Escudos songs had a word muted on some paintings?

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #464 posted 04/28/17 9:49am

MiceElfAgin

brassneck said:

MiceElfAgin said:

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It's called 'authorisation hold'. Not actually charged until they're ready to ship the goods, but the amount becomes unavailable for you to spend on something else, unless your order is cancelled and the hold is lifted.

I've pre-ordered plenty of items where the pending charge went through way before items shipped. Childish Gambino's web store charged me fully in December for his LP, which has still yet to ship.

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I happens, I know, but it's certainly an unethical practice. But it's also possible that sometimes your online banking might show an amount as charged, while in reality it's still only on hold.

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Reply #465 posted 04/28/17 10:09am

ForceofNature

Overall I am still pretty satisfied with what we are getting. Wonderful Ass, The Dance Electric, and CB Hallway are three of my all time favorite Prince tracks so I am thrilled to finally have those in their full studio quality to enjoy. Syracuse will be cool to have in full quality as well, as well as a fully remastered version of an iconic album. I am a happy fan right now

Reply #466 posted 04/28/17 10:19am

paulludvig

Freek99999 said:

really? the studio version of EI "almost ruins the live version" for you? some people have taken the art of complaining to levels I hadn't heard before...



Yeah. I'm not even sure what he means. How can a studio version ruin a live recording?
The wooh is on the one!
Reply #467 posted 04/28/17 10:21am

feeluupp

Here is a new site that just went up where you can buy it as well as the other remastered reissues so far:

http://www.officialprincemusic.com/

Reply #468 posted 04/28/17 10:22am

feeluupp

http://store.officialprincemusic.com/music-1.html

Reply #469 posted 04/28/17 10:34am

GuyBros

Are any of the outlets in the US releasing the pre-orders for vinyl yet?

Amazon doesn't have it listed and neither does the WB site.

"I mean I always figured you were a trip at times, but now I'm beginning to believe you're a freaking vacation." -2elijah
Reply #470 posted 04/28/17 10:37am

tmcjb

I think the thread title should be updated to say the release is out June 23rd, and the first post should be updated to have pre-order links.

[Edited 4/28/17 10:38am]

"Like the drummer said, you got to die."
Reply #471 posted 04/28/17 10:40am

rdhull

Freek99999 said:

really? the studio version of EI "almost ruins the live version" for you? some people have taken the art of complaining to levels I hadn't heard before...

lol

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #472 posted 04/28/17 10:50am

deebee

Nice to hear the studio version of EI, and it certainly has its charm, but I do hope the live version gets an official release at some point, as it's the definitive version of the song and one of his most sublime moments. I can see why they opted for this, to dangle something new and shiny before expectant fans, but I kinda think it should have been the live version that was included on this set.

Perhaps Warners are holding back the First Avenue concert for a proper release at a future date - DVD and CD; versions with and without overdubs, etc. hmmm (Ok, probably not, but a guy can dream....) lol

"Not everything that is faced can be changed; but nothing can be changed until it is faced." - James Baldwin
Reply #473 posted 04/28/17 10:54am

williamb610

This is a total shitfest! Tracks we already have...no 2 albums of unreleased material, no 2 DVD concerts.

I may not buy any of it!

Warner Brothers and the estate are totally disappointing.

Reply #474 posted 04/28/17 10:58am

TheEnglishGent

laytonian said:

ThirdStrike said:

So, is there an outlet yet which US fans can pre-order physical copies of whichever set they chose (Deluxe or Deluxe/Expanded)? So far, I've only seen through EB AUS. Not digital copies mind you. Physical ones...

. THIS. Amazon only has MP3s available for pre-order and therefore no version with the concert DVD. . I want a physical copy that I can put in my devices by myself. I do not want to depend on clouds and electronics. .


Amazone UK, 2 disc, now £11.99! : https://www.amazon.co.uk/...ain+deluxe

Absolute steal at that price I think, I'd pay that just for disc 2.

RIP sad
Reply #475 posted 04/28/17 11:00am

ThirdStrike

Cool. More for me...

williamb610 said:

This is a total shitfest! Tracks we already have...no 2 albums of unreleased material, no 2 DVD concerts.

I may not buy any of it!

Warner Brothers and the estate are totally disappointing.

Reply #476 posted 04/28/17 11:00am

feeluupp

Since nobody seems to see my post...

There is an OFFICIAL SITE to order and preorder, a new site that was just created today:

http://www.officialprincemusic.com/

[Edited 4/28/17 11:00am]

Reply #477 posted 04/28/17 11:04am

TheEnglishGent

williamb610 said:

This is a total shitfest! Tracks we already have...no 2 albums of unreleased material, no 2 DVD concerts.

I may not buy any of it!

Warner Brothers and the estate are totally disappointing.

I'm disapointed that there's not a second disc but I think people are overreacting. For what is being released the prices are very reasonable, in the UK at least. If they'd announced a price point for two unreleased discs and then released less at that price point, then that's a real shit. As it stands, bummed there's not two unreleased discs but more than happy with what we have for the price.

RIP sad
Reply #478 posted 04/28/17 11:15am

AhPook

williamb610 said:

This is a total shitfest! Tracks we already have...no 2 albums of unreleased material, no 2 DVD concerts.

I may not buy any of it!

Warner Brothers and the estate are totally disappointing.

You're complaining because material that you have acquired illegally is being released officially? What it comes down to is that we're all a bunch of thieves and we're whining that WB doesnt think we're special. What a bunch of cry babies. This is a great release. The fact that the deluxe edition takes the bootleg owning snob fanbase into consideration at all should be applauded. I'm happy with this.

Reply #479 posted 04/28/17 11:17am

brassneck

feeluupp said:

Since nobody seems to see my post...

There is an OFFICIAL SITE to order and preorder, a new site that was just created today:

http://www.officialprincemusic.com/

[Edited 4/28/17 11:00am]

I also posted it a few pages back. People don't read.

Reply #480 posted 04/28/17 11:18am

TheEnglishGent

AhPook said:

williamb610 said:

This is a total shitfest! Tracks we already have...no 2 albums of unreleased material, no 2 DVD concerts.

I may not buy any of it!

Warner Brothers and the estate are totally disappointing.

You're complaining because material that you have acquired illegally is being released officially? What it comes down to is that we're all a bunch of thieves and we're whining that WB doesnt think we're special. What a bunch of cry babies. This is a great release. The fact that the deluxe edition takes the bootleg owning snob fanbase into consideration at all should be applauded. I'm happy with this.

clapping

RIP sad
Reply #481 posted 04/28/17 11:19am

peedub

AhPook said:

williamb610 said:

This is a total shitfest! Tracks we already have...no 2 albums of unreleased material, no 2 DVD concerts.

I may not buy any of it!

Warner Brothers and the estate are totally disappointing.

You're complaining because material that you have acquired illegally is being released officially? What it comes down to is that we're all a bunch of thieves and we're whining that WB doesnt think we're special. What a bunch of cry babies. This is a great release. The fact that the deluxe edition takes the bootleg owning snob fanbase into consideration at all should be applauded. I'm happy with this.



indeed...the tracks are even titled with traditional bootleg titles....

i'm not even that big a fan of this album, but that 2 disc set is sweet. i'm only disappointed that we will seemingly not get a 'purple rain: the new master'. i'd've loved to have heard that...

Reply #482 posted 04/28/17 11:24am

jaypotton

Obviously sound quality and packaging will be the final decider on this but I would say this is a good release.

The issue is clearly that Warners told us we would be getting more and therefore set our expectations and Many of us are now disappointed

In the Rolling Stone article it said...

When we make any of Prince’s music available to fans - from the hits to unreleased gems - we are committed to upholding Prince’s high creative standards and we know fans will be thrilled when they hear these albums and see these films," Warner Bros. Records CEO Cameron Strang said in a statement.

You don't get a more senior source than that to quote! He said albumS and filmS plural (yes albums could mean Purple Rain itself).
[Edited 4/28/17 11:26am]
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #483 posted 04/28/17 11:30am

jaypotton

And for those folks saying THIS package is what Prince delivered to Warners I say NO WAY.

I would be willing to lay money on the Prince version of PR remastered as having, at most, just one or two unreleased songs (one being Electric Intercourse as he played it live in 2014). I truly believe it would have been 2 X CDs with CD 2 being closer to the single edits b sides and 12 inch edits along with one or two unreleased.

There is no way Prince would have included We Can Fuck on there.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #484 posted 04/28/17 11:36am

rlj1010

I would have been satisfied with this set as-is, if it included the 2nd concert video, which was originally announced. That video was widely assumed to be First Avenue 1983, which is so fascinating from a historical perspective, where we can see the actual recording of several songs that have been part of our lives for decades. Such a missed opportunity that they wouldn't include it as part of the set.

And yeah, I'm bummed with the lack of a 2nd disc of unreleased tracks. I always dreamed of hearing the version of When Doves Cry with bass. But I'm more disappointed by the lack of the 2nd video.

[Edited 4/28/17 11:40am]

Reply #485 posted 04/28/17 11:49am

wonderboy

Just finished listening to the studio version of Electric Intercourse. Something that I've waited a long time for. I am always happy to hear something from Prince that I've never heard before.

I can why he chose TBO over this track for inclusion. It would have made a great B side.
Reply #486 posted 04/28/17 11:50am

laurarichardson

jaypotton said:

And for those folks saying THIS package is what Prince delivered to Warners I say NO WAY. I would be willing to lay money on the Prince version of PR remastered as having, at most, just one or two unreleased songs (one being Electric Intercourse as he played it live in 2014). I truly believe it would have been 2 X CDs with CD 2 being closer to the single edits b sides and 12 inch edits along with one or two unreleased. There is no way Prince would have included We Can Fuck on there.

I would not be so sure about that I am sure there was something in the agreement that gave him final say and many people said he was not so hard core JW as he had been.

Think about songs like Exlier. He also appeared to be dating a few young ladies so I do not buy that no sex and no cursing stuff.

Reply #487 posted 04/28/17 11:51am

ForceofNature

williamb610 said:

This is a total shitfest! Tracks we already have...no 2 albums of unreleased material, no 2 DVD concerts.

I may not buy any of it!

Warner Brothers and the estate are totally disappointing.

I disagree I think it is a fitting box set and I am looking forward to buying it. They did alright by me

Reply #488 posted 04/28/17 12:03pm

jaypotton

laurarichardson said:

 



jaypotton said:


And for those folks saying THIS package is what Prince delivered to Warners I say NO WAY. I would be willing to lay money on the Prince version of PR remastered as having, at most, just one or two unreleased songs (one being Electric Intercourse as he played it live in 2014). I truly believe it would have been 2 X CDs with CD 2 being closer to the single edits b sides and 12 inch edits along with one or two unreleased. There is no way Prince would have included We Can Fuck on there.

I would not be so sure about that I am sure there was something in the agreement that gave him final say and many people said he was not so hard core JW as he had been. 


 


Think about songs like Exlier. He also appeared to be dating a few young ladies so I do not buy that no sex and no cursing stuff.  



True. He even swore on Funknroll so I agree there was a relaxing of the JW side.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #489 posted 04/28/17 12:05pm

TrivialPursuit

http://www.officialprincemusic.com/

"Despite everything, no 1 can dictate who u r 2 other people." - Prince |
http://bit.ly/unboxingprince
Reply #490 posted 04/28/17 12:12pm

MitchBloodGreen

So awesome and fascinating to hear this track, infact just to finally hear anything that hasnt been heard b4 from P. Kinda makes me feel like a thief who broke in2 the vault, and Im not ashamed. And while I prefer the live version of EI , this one is cool too in is own unique way. To me it sounds like an 80s video game version of the live performance. Now bring on Fathers Song!

Reply #491 posted 04/28/17 12:19pm

OnlyNDaUsa

jaypotton said:

laurarichardson said:

I would not be so sure about that I am sure there was something in the agreement that gave him final say and many people said he was not so hard core JW as he had been.

Think about songs like Exlier. He also appeared to be dating a few young ladies so I do not buy that no sex and no cursing stuff.

True. He even swore on Funknroll so I agree there was a relaxing of the JW side.

ido not think he said what you heard

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #492 posted 04/28/17 12:25pm

dodger

jaypotton said:

And for those folks saying THIS package is what Prince delivered to Warners I say NO WAY.

I would be willing to lay money on the Prince version of PR remastered as having, at most, just one or two unreleased songs (one being Electric Intercourse as he played it live in 2014). I truly believe it would have been 2 X CDs with CD 2 being closer to the single edits b sides and 12 inch edits along with one or two unreleased.

There is no way Prince would have included We Can Fuck on there.


Totally agree. Even when he sang Electric Intercourse in 2014 he didn't say 'intercourse' so no way he'd sign off on We Can Fuck.
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Reply #493 posted 04/28/17 12:27pm

TheEnglishGent

jaypotton said:

laurarichardson said:

I would not be so sure about that I am sure there was something in the agreement that gave him final say and many people said he was not so hard core JW as he had been.

Think about songs like Exlier. He also appeared to be dating a few young ladies so I do not buy that no sex and no cursing stuff.

True. He even swore on Funknroll so I agree there was a relaxing of the JW side.

What did he say? I can't hear any swearing.

RIP sad
Reply #494 posted 04/28/17 12:30pm

IstenSzek

brassneck said:

feeluupp said:

Since nobody seems to see my post...

There is an OFFICIAL SITE to order and preorder, a new site that was just created today:

http://www.officialprincemusic.com/

[Edited 4/28/17 11:00am]

I also posted it a few pages back. People don't read.






a lot of people on this site don't want to read or understand. the more sense your post makes,
the less inclined they are to read it and the bigger the chance they'll just ask the question again lol


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #495 posted 04/28/17 12:33pm

OnlyNDaUsa

IstenSzek said:

brassneck said:

I also posted it a few pages back. People don't read.






a lot of people on this site don't want to read or understand. the more sense your post makes,
the less inclined they are to read it and the bigger the chance they'll just ask the question again lol


i saw it a few times and went there too! and i am still going to order from Amazon....

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #496 posted 04/28/17 12:43pm

Loefie

Still looking forward to the release, but also slightly disappointed with what is being delivered compared to what they were saying. Not two albums of unreleased material and not 2 DVD's. when you're speaking of two albums, one can imagine people expect two cd's. And when you promise 2 dvd's/concertmovies, deliver 2 DVD's/concertmovies. Just be straight with people, that'll be rewarded in the end. Don't promise things you can't live up to. It almost looks like politics.
Produced, Arranged, Composed & Performed by PRINCE


"Rotterdam, we come to jam!"
Reply #497 posted 04/28/17 12:54pm

Se7en

RODSERLING said:

I won't buy it.

30/35 euros for one disc of unreleased music no thanks. Are they crazy ?

I hoped there was the two lives in blu ray - but schokingly, there is only 1 dvd (!!). We are not in 2004 anymore...What is the point in remastering a video tape in 2017, if it is not for a HD release ?

That still proves WB can't make a real good deluxe edition, even more than one year after Prince's passing...and this is for Purple Rain ! The only Prince popular album worldwide.

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WB missed the point, like Sony missed the point with MJ's posthumous release. Commercially, MJ's release never recovered from it, to the point where they don' even want to release unreleased track anymore. Because nobody buys them.

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WB could make a music video of EI, using footage from the live version. But they won't do that. They are really lacking commercial sense.

I can't believe they waited more than one year for this disappointment. It could have easily been released last year.

[Edited 4/28/17 1:04am]


Is there such a thing as remastering video tape (VHS)? I didn't think there was, at least not the extent of transferring it to HD/Blu-Ray.

Reply #498 posted 04/28/17 1:13pm

TheEnglishGent

Se7en said:

RODSERLING said:

I won't buy it.

30/35 euros for one disc of unreleased music no thanks. Are they crazy ?

I hoped there was the two lives in blu ray - but schokingly, there is only 1 dvd (!!). We are not in 2004 anymore...What is the point in remastering a video tape in 2017, if it is not for a HD release ?

That still proves WB can't make a real good deluxe edition, even more than one year after Prince's passing...and this is for Purple Rain ! The only Prince popular album worldwide.

.

WB missed the point, like Sony missed the point with MJ's posthumous release. Commercially, MJ's release never recovered from it, to the point where they don' even want to release unreleased track anymore. Because nobody buys them.

.

WB could make a music video of EI, using footage from the live version. But they won't do that. They are really lacking commercial sense.

I can't believe they waited more than one year for this disappointment. It could have easily been released last year.

[Edited 4/28/17 1:04am]


Is there such a thing as remastering video tape (VHS)? I didn't think there was, at least not the extent of transferring it to HD/Blu-Ray.

There is if there is better source material than a VHS.

RIP sad
Reply #499 posted 04/28/17 1:16pm

embmmusic

Se7en said:

RODSERLING said:

I won't buy it.

30/35 euros for one disc of unreleased music no thanks. Are they crazy ?

I hoped there was the two lives in blu ray - but schokingly, there is only 1 dvd (!!). We are not in 2004 anymore...What is the point in remastering a video tape in 2017, if it is not for a HD release ?

That still proves WB can't make a real good deluxe edition, even more than one year after Prince's passing...and this is for Purple Rain ! The only Prince popular album worldwide.

.

WB missed the point, like Sony missed the point with MJ's posthumous release. Commercially, MJ's release never recovered from it, to the point where they don' even want to release unreleased track anymore. Because nobody buys them.

.

WB could make a music video of EI, using footage from the live version. But they won't do that. They are really lacking commercial sense.

I can't believe they waited more than one year for this disappointment. It could have easily been released last year.

[Edited 4/28/17 1:04am]


Is there such a thing as remastering video tape (VHS)? I didn't think there was, at least not the extent of transferring it to HD/Blu-Ray.

They wouldn't be remastering the VHS, it was shot on film.

Reply #500 posted 04/28/17 1:17pm

TrivialPursuit

Se7en said:


Is there such a thing as remastering video tape (VHS)? I didn't think there was, at least not the extent of transferring it to HD/Blu-Ray.


Good question! Someone on here in a thread (forgive me if you're reading this) talked about how it might have been captured on BETA which was a better resolution than VHS. If someone had the original BETA, it's a better source to work with to tweak it. I don't really hold out hope for that, though. The video is tinny and high treble and needs a boost of bass, and some color correction. I don't think they did any of that, but we'll find out. It was never on DVD before, so that's the pull, not that the concert itself was remastered; just that it's now on a DVD.

"a never-seen on DVD of Prince and The Revolution Live! in 1985" That's the rub.

"Despite everything, no 1 can dictate who u r 2 other people." - Prince |
http://bit.ly/unboxingprince
Reply #501 posted 04/28/17 1:21pm

IstenSzek

TrivialPursuit said:

Se7en said:


Is there such a thing as remastering video tape (VHS)? I didn't think there was, at least not the extent of transferring it to HD/Blu-Ray.


Good question! Someone on here in a thread (forgive me if you're reading this) talked about how it might have been captured on BETA which was a better resolution than VHS. If someone had the original BETA, it's a better source to work with to tweak it. I don't really hold out hope for that, though. The video is tinny and high treble and needs a boost of bass, and some color correction. I don't think they did any of that, but we'll find out. It was never on DVD before, so that's the pull, not that the concert itself was remastered; just that it's now on a DVD.

"a never-seen on DVD of Prince and The Revolution Live! in 1985" That's the rub.


urgh, exactly. it's like every press release and statement you can't take at face value
anymore, you have to read the small print, and analyse it carefully before you come
to any sort of conclusion.

although, what we're learning from this release is that they will give us the minimum
they can get away with - AFTER they promise double lol

electric intercourse is great soundquality, no complaints there. that's great. but there
are many things about this release that are shoddy.

and then the official site says "This is Prince’s final word on his definitive masterpiece."

falloff


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #502 posted 04/28/17 1:22pm

bonatoc

deebee said:

Nice to hear the studio version of EI, and it certainly has its charm, but I do hope the live version gets an official release at some point, as it's the definitive version of the song and one of his most sublime moments. I can see why they opted for this, to dangle something new and shiny before expectant fans, but I kinda think it should have been the live version that was included on this set.

Perhaps Warners are holding back the First Avenue concert for a proper release at a future date - DVD and CD; versions with and without overdubs, etc. hmmm (Ok, probably not, but a guy can dream....) lol


As a Good Sir said above, how much of a bunch of whiners have we become?

Studio and live are perfectly complementary. There's no definitive in this precise case.
A guy ot there made a compilation with the 3 versions (studio, live, rehearsal) and it proves the strength of the composition. It stands the multiple angles test.
Studio and live, or live and studio, They're A-side and B-side, you pick your favorite.
But to deny this is more than a demo (then that makes "Forever In My Life" what?) than something that could have landed on a double PR , that it is one of his top vocal deliveries and sparse arrangements... The intro and outro alone make for it.
Really, give it some spins.

Curiously, I always found EI '83 live over the top.
Now that I have the studio craft, I'm lovin' the live take way more.
This song is supposed to be over the top, and "Condition Of The Heart" is a sophisticated evolution of Prince at his most vocally unabashed, and he's incredible.
The people not in the know do not realize he's one of the best singers ever, female and male combined.

Man, he was 25.
When you think Prince could not astonish you more,
he shows you a secret entry in his journal.
That surprised everyone.
I'm glad to see praises from hardcore fans.
What a happy sad month.

The PR box
we all dream of
will probably be around 2024.

Please let's stop whining, ad hominem, urbis and fucking orbis ;
We gotta lotta butter 2 go.
I'd say, what a smooth entrance to 7 years of harsh, cruel, unmerciful wait
(Lovesexy Deluxe, SOTT Deluxe, Around The World In A Day Deluxe) for "Purple Rain - The Complete Sessions - Vol I".
Ah la la, 2 B a Prince fan...

[Edited 4/28/17 13:27pm]

Africa, Cap'n Crunch, Norma Jean, Sex and Cheerio's
Play my record double speed, feel the climax fit 4 a king
Reply #503 posted 04/28/17 1:24pm

OnlyNDaUsa

embmmusic said:

Se7en said:


Is there such a thing as remastering video tape (VHS)? I didn't think there was, at least not the extent of transferring it to HD/Blu-Ray.

They wouldn't be remastering the VHS, it was shot on film.

not very likely. It was broadcast live was it not? It sure looked like video to me... it can be (if they have the original tapes and put some $$$ in it) made to look somewhat better and even all new "mix" the should have kept all the original tapes. but again that would cost them money.

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #504 posted 04/28/17 1:48pm

Identity

The second CD of goodies alone makes this collection worth every penny. In spite of the fact that I have plenty of amazing boots, this is soooo much better.

Fear no evil.
Reply #505 posted 04/28/17 1:57pm

paulludvig

bonatoc said:

deebee said:

Nice to hear the studio version of EI, and it certainly has its charm, but I do hope the live version gets an official release at some point, as it's the definitive version of the song and one of his most sublime moments. I can see why they opted for this, to dangle something new and shiny before expectant fans, but I kinda think it should have been the live version that was included on this set.

Perhaps Warners are holding back the First Avenue concert for a proper release at a future date - DVD and CD; versions with and without overdubs, etc. hmmm (Ok, probably not, but a guy can dream....) lol


As a Good Sir said above, how much of a bunch of whiners have we become?

Studio and live are perfectly complementary. There's no definitive in this precise case.
A guy ot there made a compilation with the 3 versions (studio, live, rehearsal) and it proves the strength of the composition. It stands the multiple angles test.
Studio and live, or live and studio, They're A-side and B-side, you pick your favorite.
But to deny this is more than a demo (then that makes "Forever In My Life" what?) than something that could have landed on a double PR , that it is one of his top vocal deliveries and sparse arrangements... The intro and outro alone make for it.
Really, give it some spins.

Curiously, I always found EI '83 live over the top.
Now that I have the studio craft, I'm lovin' the live take way more.
This song is supposed to be over the top, and "Condition Of The Heart" is a sophisticated evolution of Prince at his most vocally unabashed, and he's incredible.
The people not in the know do not realize he's one of the best singers ever, female and male combined.

Man, he was 25.
When you think Prince could not astonish you more,
he shows you a secret entry in his journal.
That surprised everyone.
I'm glad to see praises from hardcore fans.
What a happy sad month.

The PR box
we all dream of
will probably be around 2024.

Please let's stop whining, ad hominem, urbis and fucking orbis ;
We gotta lotta butter 2 go.
I'd say, what a smooth entrance to 7 years of harsh, cruel, unmerciful wait
(Lovesexy Deluxe, SOTT Deluxe, Around The World In A Day Deluxe) for "Purple Rain - The Complete Sessions - Vol I".
Ah la la, 2 B a Prince fan...

[Edited 4/28/17 13:27pm]

Way more than before? Or way more than the studio version?

I love this studio version. It strikes curious poses, if you know what I mean. Anyway - good to have a studio version we didn't even know existed.

The wooh is on the one!
Reply #506 posted 04/28/17 2:03pm

TheEnglishGent

I'm loving EI and really looking forward to the rest of the vault disc. But something just dawned on me this evening. It's nearly two months until this comes out! I'm impatient already. lol

RIP sad
Reply #507 posted 04/28/17 2:17pm

NewpowerScarfo

pre ordered at last. I've waited many years for this moment. I'm an Happy Panda. Yes I live in the US.

[Edited 4/28/17 15:52pm]

Reply #508 posted 04/28/17 2:29pm

love2thenines2003

Back in February WB said




2 months LATER

LIARS ! LIARS!http://www.schkopi.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/WB-annonce.jpg
Reply #509 posted 04/28/17 2:31pm

jaypotton

TrivialPursuit said:

 



Se7en said:


 




Is there such a thing as remastering video tape (VHS)? I didn't think there was, at least not the extent of transferring it to HD/Blu-Ray.




Good question!  Someone on here in a thread (forgive me if you're reading this) talked about how it might have been captured on BETA which was a better resolution than VHS.  If someone had the original BETA, it's a better source to work with to tweak it.  I don't really hold out hope for that, though.  The video is tinny and high treble and needs a boost of bass, and some color correction.  I don't think they did any of that, but we'll find out.  It was never on DVD before, so that's the pull, not that the concert itself was remastered; just that it's now on a DVD.

"a never-seen on DVD of Prince and The Revolution Live! in 1985"  That's the rub.



Nobody ever shot a professional programme on VHS. That just ended up as the preferred home movie format before DVD was invented. Betamax from Sonybwas a far superior format but lost the format war (primarily because unit costs of VHS tapes was lower and so more films were put out on VHS for home consumption (and in particular porn).

Betamax evolved into a professional format called Betacam.

It is almost certain Syracuse would have been shot on Betacam although there were other pro video format back then too.

It definitely wasn't shot on film, you can tell that by watching it.
[Edited 4/28/17 14:32pm]
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #510 posted 04/28/17 2:37pm

williamb610

Why is there no sign of Darling Nikki extended? That should have been on the Vault CD, at least!

They're missing the boat with these releases.

Reply #511 posted 04/28/17 2:46pm

jstar69

AhPook said:

 



williamb610 said:


This is a total shitfest!  Tracks we already have...no 2 albums of unreleased material, no 2 DVD concerts.


 


I may not buy any of it!


 


Warner Brothers and the estate are totally disappointing.



 


 


You're complaining because material that you have acquired illegally is being released officially? What it comes down to is that we're all a bunch of thieves and we're whining that WB doesnt think we're special. What a bunch of cry babies. This is a great release. The fact that the deluxe edition takes the bootleg owning snob fanbase into consideration at all should be applauded. I'm happy with this.



Fabulous release and I'm excited about it. However, for WB to dangle a '2 full concerts from the vault' carrot, then only deliver 1(which most of us already have or have seen albeit in slightly lower quality) is Very deflating! I have the Japanese LD of this concert and not sure this new release could be much better than that. I'm hoping WB will in fact release an additional standalone concert release, which one could argue, aligns with their earlier statement. Not holding my breath though!
Reply #512 posted 04/28/17 2:52pm

jstar69

IstenSzek said:

 



TrivialPursuit said:


 



Se7en said:


 



Is there such a thing as remastering video tape (VHS)? I didn't think there was, at least not the extent of transferring it to HD/Blu-Ray.




Good question!  Someone on here in a thread (forgive me if you're reading this) talked about how it might have been captured on BETA which was a better resolution than VHS.  If someone had the original BETA, it's a better source to work with to tweak it.  I don't really hold out hope for that, though.  The video is tinny and high treble and needs a boost of bass, and some color correction.  I don't think they did any of that, but we'll find out.  It was never on DVD before, so that's the pull, not that the concert itself was remastered; just that it's now on a DVD.

"a never-seen on DVD of Prince and The Revolution Live! in 1985"  That's the rub.




urgh, exactly. it's like every press release and statement you can't take at face value
anymore, you have to read the small print, and analyse it carefully before you come 
to any sort of conclusion. 

although, what we're learning from this release is that they will give us the minimum
they can get away with - AFTER they promise double lol

electric intercourse is great soundquality, no complaints there. that's great. but there
are many things about this release that are shoddy. 

and then the official site says "This is Prince’s final word on his definitive masterpiece."

falloff




Maybe Donald Duck (oops I mean Donald Trump) or Spicey is the spokesman for WB re this stuff - ie don't take anything said or confirmed as literal or at FAce Value.
[Edited 4/28/17 14:56pm]
Reply #513 posted 04/28/17 3:00pm

TrcikyChristopher

jaypotton said:

Obviously sound quality and packaging will be the final decider on this but I would say this is a good release. The issue is clearly that Warners told us we would be getting more and therefore set our expectations and Many of us are now disappointed In the Rolling Stone article it said... When we make any of Prince’s music available to fans - from the hits to unreleased gems - we are committed to upholding Prince’s high creative standards and we know fans will be thrilled when they hear these albums and see these films," Warner Bros. Records CEO Cameron Strang said in a statement. You don't get a more senior source than that to quote! He said albumS and filmS plural (yes albums could mean Purple Rain itself). [Edited 4/28/17 11:26am]

Could very well be that The First Avenue concert and other vault material are in the Estate's hands and since the WB deal technically covered WB catalog material, they needed permission.

I'd heard at some point that WB Purple Rain release was a special deal when it came to the deluxe project - separate from their distribution of the rest of the WB work and that Universal (or whoever takes over if they bail) would handle all other vault stuff.

All that being said, it could be that what we waited for is in the hands of the estate waiting for negotiation.

Reply #514 posted 04/28/17 3:05pm

E319

The Purple Rain Expanded Edition (3CD/1DVD) is now available to pre-order on Amazon.com in the USA for the very low price of $32.98.



https://www.amazon.com/gp...&psc=1

Reply #515 posted 04/28/17 3:07pm

IstenSzek

jstar69 said:

IstenSzek said:


urgh, exactly. it's like every press release and statement you can't take at face value
anymore, you have to read the small print, and analyse it carefully before you come
to any sort of conclusion.

although, what we're learning from this release is that they will give us the minimum
they can get away with - AFTER they promise double lol

electric intercourse is great soundquality, no complaints there. that's great. but there
are many things about this release that are shoddy.

and then the official site says "This is Prince’s final word on his definitive masterpiece."

falloff


Maybe Donald Duck (oops I mean Donald Trump) or Spicey is the spokesman for WB re this stuff - ie don't take anything said or confirmed as literal or at FAce Value. [Edited 4/28/17 14:56pm]



falloff

imagine the hysterical tweets from trump and the press conference where spicer denies the previous press release lol

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #516 posted 04/28/17 3:08pm

Moonbeam

Glad to have an official verification of this! I have to admit to being slightly disappointed by the fact that there is only one concert, but you'd better believe I'll be buying this!
Feel free to join in the Prince Song Poll 2016! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince songs, as decided by you!
Reply #517 posted 04/28/17 3:22pm

jjam

I got to say that the studio version of Electric Intercourse has grown on me a hell of a lot!

Reply #518 posted 04/28/17 3:24pm

Marrk

Se7en said:

RODSERLING said:

I won't buy it.

30/35 euros for one disc of unreleased music no thanks. Are they crazy ?

I hoped there was the two lives in blu ray - but schokingly, there is only 1 dvd (!!). We are not in 2004 anymore...What is the point in remastering a video tape in 2017, if it is not for a HD release ?

That still proves WB can't make a real good deluxe edition, even more than one year after Prince's passing...and this is for Purple Rain ! The only Prince popular album worldwide.

.

WB missed the point, like Sony missed the point with MJ's posthumous release. Commercially, MJ's release never recovered from it, to the point where they don' even want to release unreleased track anymore. Because nobody buys them.

.

WB could make a music video of EI, using footage from the live version. But they won't do that. They are really lacking commercial sense.

I can't believe they waited more than one year for this disappointment. It could have easily been released last year.

[Edited 4/28/17 1:04am]


Is there such a thing as remastering video tape (VHS)? I didn't think there was, at least not the extent of transferring it to HD/Blu-Ray.

I'll be a crushing bore and point out 'Star Trek - The Next Generation' was filmed on video and was remastered to an amazing quality for Blu-Ray. Obviously money was spent to achieve those results. WB were never going to do that with a Prince concert.



Hate to point this out too, but it seems there are MJ fans who remaster his old videos and concerts, but Prince doesn't seem to have fans putting in the same effort.

Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
Reply #519 posted 04/28/17 3:31pm

NewpowerScarfo

love2thenines2003 said:

Back in February WB said 2 months LATER LIARS ! LIARS!http://www.schkopi.com/wp...nnonce.jpg

Yeah, them plainly saying TWO full concert dvds and only delivering one is an major screw up that merits an explanation.

Reply #520 posted 04/28/17 3:46pm

SoulAlive

"Electric Intercourse" is amazing!!! Wow! I think I have listened to it a hundred times already lol
Reply #521 posted 04/28/17 3:47pm

OnlyNDaUsa

E319 said:

The Purple Rain Expanded Edition (3CD/1DVD) is now available to pre-order on Amazon.com in the USA for the very low price of $32.98.



https://www.amazon.com/gp...&psc=1

took them long enough! They had iit up at 11AM but no price! So now I can preorder...when my replacement credit card comes in!

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #522 posted 04/28/17 3:50pm

Biggs31

AhPook said:

williamb610 said:

This is a total shitfest! Tracks we already have...no 2 albums of unreleased material, no 2 DVD concerts.

I may not buy any of it!

Warner Brothers and the estate are totally disappointing.

You're complaining because material that you have acquired illegally is being released officially? What it comes down to is that we're all a bunch of thieves and we're whining that WB doesnt think we're special. What a bunch of cry babies. This is a great release. The fact that the deluxe edition takes the bootleg owning snob fanbase into consideration at all should be applauded. I'm happy with this.

Agreed. Take press releases with a pinch of salt.

Boots are great, but surely the aim is to own these tracks in pristine quality. The fact that this release includes The Dance Electric, Electric Intercourse, Our Destiny / Roadhouse Garden, Possessed, Wonderful Ass, We Can Fuck and Father's Song means that it has already well exceeded my expectations. I'll be dancing round the house for weeks when it comes out.

As for the 'missing' DVD... I'm glad it doesn't include the First Avenue '83. That deserves its own release.

[Edited 4/28/17 15:51pm]

Reply #523 posted 04/28/17 4:08pm

bluegangsta

Biggs31 said:

As for the 'missing' DVD... I'm glad it doesn't include the First Avenue '83. That deserves its own release.

[Edited 4/28/17 15:51pm]

What the actual fuck?

The First Avenue concert, which served as the basis for the Purple Rain album, shouldn't be released on a Deluxe Edition of Purple Rain?

You're exactly the kind of fan WB are catering to and it's a fucking shame for the rest of us.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #524 posted 04/28/17 4:26pm

oliviacamron

TrivialPursuit said:

http://www.officialprincemusic.com/


Got mine thanks. Electric intercourse studio version is very different. I like it but the live version is so awesome it bri go me to tears
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
Reply #525 posted 04/28/17 4:34pm

oliviacamron

TheEnglishGent said:

I'm loving EI and really looking forward to the rest of the vault disc. But something just dawned on me this evening. It's nearly two months until this comes out! I'm impatient already. lol   


When I ordered it, the shipping method I choose said delivered by May 5 the
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
Reply #526 posted 04/28/17 4:36pm

214

rdhull said:

PurpleTrollster said:

FUNQ YAAAASS!! TAKE MY MONEY!!! TAKE ALL MY MONEY!!! TAKE MY FAMILY'S MONEY!!! TAKE MY ENTIRE COLLEGE FUND!!!!! TAKE MY SOUL

word up

May i take your money,what about your soul?

Reply #527 posted 04/28/17 4:42pm

RaspBerryGirlFriend

Marrk said:

Se7en said:


Is there such a thing as remastering video tape (VHS)? I didn't think there was, at least not the extent of transferring it to HD/Blu-Ray.

I'll be a crushing bore and point out 'Star Trek - The Next Generation' was filmed on video and was remastered to an amazing quality for Blu-Ray. Obviously money was spent to achieve those results. WB were never going to do that with a Prince concert.



Hate to point this out too, but it seems there are MJ fans who remaster his old videos and concerts, but Prince doesn't seem to have fans putting in the same effort.

Apparently TNG was actually shot on 35mm film originally and that was what was scanned for the blu-ray release, while they redid the the special effects or something like that, not 100% sure of the details. I guess my point is that I thought it was impossible to "remaster" old stuff shot on video to modern HD?

Heavenly wine and roses seems to whisper to me when you smile...
Always cry for love, never cry for pain...
Reply #528 posted 04/28/17 4:54pm

MD431Madcat

This is some LAME NEWBIE fucking BULLSHIT!!!!

songs i already own and a concert that i've had on vhs since the mid 80's...

confused

Reply #529 posted 04/28/17 4:55pm

KingSausage

TheEnglishGent said:

I'm loving EI and really looking forward to the rest of the vault disc. But something just dawned on me this evening. It's nearly two months until this comes out! I'm impatient already. lol   




Ugh. I know. Time fucking sucks! mad
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #530 posted 04/28/17 4:58pm

IstenSzek

KingSausage said:

TheEnglishGent said:

I'm loving EI and really looking forward to the rest of the vault disc. But something just dawned on me this evening. It's nearly two months until this comes out! I'm impatient already. lol

Ugh. I know. Time fucking sucks! mad



lord. i'd pay double if i could just have it NOW! lol

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #531 posted 04/28/17 5:00pm

KingSausage

IstenSzek said:

 



KingSausage said:


TheEnglishGent said:

I'm loving EI and really looking forward to the rest of the vault disc. But something just dawned on me this evening. It's nearly two months until this comes out! I'm impatient already. lol   



Ugh. I know. Time fucking sucks! mad



lord. i'd pay double if i could just have it NOW! lol 




I would too. I haven't even listened to Deliverance yet. But I want this deluxe PR set NOW.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #532 posted 04/28/17 5:06pm

pld71

MD431Madcat said:

This is some LAME NEWBIE fucking BULLSHIT!!!!


songs i already own and a concert that i've had on vhs since the mid 80's... 


confused


 



Already own the concert on boot DVD. Meh.
[Edited 4/28/17 17:06pm]
Reply #533 posted 04/28/17 5:06pm

Marrk

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

Marrk said:

I'll be a crushing bore and point out 'Star Trek - The Next Generation' was filmed on video and was remastered to an amazing quality for Blu-Ray. Obviously money was spent to achieve those results. WB were never going to do that with a Prince concert.



Hate to point this out too, but it seems there are MJ fans who remaster his old videos and concerts, but Prince doesn't seem to have fans putting in the same effort.

Apparently TNG was actually shot on 35mm film originally and that was what was scanned for the blu-ray release, while they redid the the special effects or something like that, not 100% sure of the details. I guess my point is that I thought it was impossible to "remaster" old stuff shot on video to modern HD?

You're probably right, I just read the effects only were originally shot on video and replaced, the main bulk of it was on film. I own lots of UK TV from the 70's/80's on DVD that was originally filmed on video. There's not much that can be done with video. Oh well.


It'll be interesting to see some screenshot comparisons between the Syracuse DVD and the VHS. Syracuse was on laser disc too if i recall. Maybe they used that as a starting point. Maybe a slight improvement then. shrug

Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
Reply #534 posted 04/28/17 5:25pm

AnnaSantana

"Electric Intercourse" is...different than what I was expecting. Very interesting, musically and vocally.

Just fun....nothing ethereal.
Reply #535 posted 04/28/17 5:32pm

SoulAlive

E319 said:

The Purple Rain Expanded Edition (3CD/1DVD) is now available to pre-order on Amazon.com in the USA for the very low price of $32.98.





https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0718ZCS6B/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1



Thanks for the info.I'm gonna pre-order it right now!
smile
Reply #536 posted 04/28/17 5:37pm

deebee

bonatoc said:

deebee said:

Nice to hear the studio version of EI, and it certainly has its charm, but I do hope the live version gets an official release at some point, as it's the definitive version of the song and one of his most sublime moments. I can see why they opted for this, to dangle something new and shiny before expectant fans, but I kinda think it should have been the live version that was included on this set.

Perhaps Warners are holding back the First Avenue concert for a proper release at a future date - DVD and CD; versions with and without overdubs, etc. hmmm (Ok, probably not, but a guy can dream....) lol


As a Good Sir said above, how much of a bunch of whiners have we become?

Studio and live are perfectly complementary. There's no definitive in this precise case.
A guy ot there made a compilation with the 3 versions (studio, live, rehearsal) and it proves the strength of the composition. It stands the multiple angles test.
Studio and live, or live and studio, They're A-side and B-side, you pick your favorite.
But to deny this is more than a demo (then that makes "Forever In My Life" what?) than something that could have landed on a double PR , that it is one of his top vocal deliveries and sparse arrangements... The intro and outro alone make for it.
Really, give it some spins.

Curiously, I always found EI '83 live over the top.
Now that I have the studio craft, I'm lovin' the live take way more.
This song is supposed to be over the top, and "Condition Of The Heart" is a sophisticated evolution of Prince at his most vocally unabashed, and he's incredible.
The people not in the know do not realize he's one of the best singers ever, female and male combined.

Man, he was 25.
When you think Prince could not astonish you more,
he shows you a secret entry in his journal.
That surprised everyone.
I'm glad to see praises from hardcore fans.
What a happy sad month.

The PR box
we all dream of
will probably be around 2024.

Please let's stop whining, ad hominem, urbis and fucking orbis ;
We gotta lotta butter 2 go.
I'd say, what a smooth entrance to 7 years of harsh, cruel, unmerciful wait
(Lovesexy Deluxe, SOTT Deluxe, Around The World In A Day Deluxe) for "Purple Rain - The Complete Sessions - Vol I".
Ah la la, 2 B a Prince fan...

[Edited 4/28/17 13:27pm]

See, I find this sort of mannered little disquisition far more dispiriting to wade through than I would imagine anyone found my rather gentle and good-natured comment on the tracklist to be - but, as with so many things in life, I guess it's different strokes for different folks. I'm actually very happy to hear the new track, and already more than sold on the upcoming release, so I don't feel terribly in need of an over-eager homily about the importance of counting my blessings. But then I don't imagine anyone does, do they?

[Edited 4/28/17 17:39pm]

"Not everything that is faced can be changed; but nothing can be changed until it is faced." - James Baldwin
Reply #537 posted 04/28/17 5:47pm

bluegangsta

pld71 said:

MD431Madcat said:

This is some LAME NEWBIE fucking BULLSHIT!!!!

songs i already own and a concert that i've had on vhs since the mid 80's...

confused

Already own the concert on boot DVD. Meh.

Okay, cool. Enjoy your sixth generation VHS rip with mono sound from the early 80s then.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #538 posted 04/28/17 5:52pm

EddieC

All right, finally listening to Electric Intercourse. There's some moments around the 2:30-2:40 period that got the Oh Good Lord response, so I'm pretty happy about this. Even if that synth line makes me think of the end of If the Kid Can't Make You Come (I'm not saying it's the same, just that I'm thinking of it). It's certainly more interesting than I expected from the live/rehearsal versions. Thumbs up.

Now I've got to listen a bunch more times.

Reply #539 posted 04/28/17 5:58pm

214

So, there is not live audio?

Reply #540 posted 04/28/17 5:59pm

rdhull

214 said:

rdhull said:

word up

May i take your money,what about your soul?

we can share it

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #541 posted 04/28/17 6:01pm

GiggityGoo

Sweet! Been waiting for this to go live in the US for days now.

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I just preordered, and the first thing I did was listen to "Electric Intercourse". AWESOME. A crystal clear, vintage 80s-Prince production.

.

I know a lot of people have been griping about the content of this set, but screw 'em. I'm so happy I'm delirious.

.

(See what I did there?...)

Reply #542 posted 04/28/17 6:02pm

bilbolives

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MUSIC_PRINCE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The Associated Press is also reporting on the "Purple Rain" reissue.

Reply #543 posted 04/28/17 6:11pm

214

rdhull said:

214 said:

May i take your money,what about your soul?

we can share it

No sharing, iwant it all for myself. In a serious note, idon't like Electric Intercourse in either way live or not.

Reply #544 posted 04/28/17 6:17pm

bilbolives

http://www.startribune.com/details-of-prince-s-expanded-purple-rain-reissue-revealed-coming-june-23/420722973/

The Minneapolis Star Tribune is reporting on the various iterations of the "Purple Rain" reissue.

Reply #545 posted 04/28/17 6:30pm

ForceofNature

MD431Madcat said:

This is some LAME NEWBIE fucking BULLSHIT!!!!

songs i already own and a concert that i've had on vhs since the mid 80's...

confused

Don't buy it then - keep your low quality VHS video and crappy boots and Ill be jamming to Syracuse and songs like Wonderful Ass in pristine quality smile

Reply #546 posted 04/28/17 6:47pm

sulls

Electric Intercourse sounds amazing blasting from my car speakers. If the Purple Rain deluxe sounds this good, we're in for a real treat!
"I like to watch."
Reply #547 posted 04/28/17 6:47pm

Identity

ForceofNature said:

MD431Madcat said:

This is some LAME NEWBIE fucking BULLSHIT!!!!

songs i already own and a concert that i've had on vhs since the mid 80's...

confused

Don't buy it then - keep your low quality VHS video and crappy boots and Ill be jamming to Syracuse and songs like Wonderful Ass in pristine quality smile


Hahahahahahahaha!
lol lol lol !!!

Fear no evil.
Reply #548 posted 04/28/17 6:54pm

rusty1

I hope that June 7, 1984 legendary first
avenue show comes out one day.
Also the aug 3,1983 show as well.
It's amazing that both of these couldn't
be on this reissue.
I think they are more important then that
syracuse show.
I read that at the PP celebration
The last date of the PR tour was shown on film.
Oh well
BOB4theFUNK
Reply #549 posted 04/28/17 6:59pm

SchlomoThaHomo

KingSausage said:

IstenSzek said:

 



KingSausage said:


TheEnglishGent said:

I'm loving EI and really looking forward to the rest of the vault disc. But something just dawned on me this evening. It's nearly two months until this comes out! I'm impatient already. lol   



Ugh. I know. Time fucking sucks! mad



lord. i'd pay double if i could just have it NOW! lol 




I would too. I haven't even listened to Deliverance yet. But I want this deluxe PR set NOW.


Loving this track so much. However, I'm kind of more into the EP. Musically, Electric Intercourse sounds a little rudimentary, comparatively speaking. Even though I love it.
"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
Reply #550 posted 04/28/17 7:26pm

Revolution81

Warners should do an expanded deluxe "disc 3"
With all the outtakes they left off
Reply #551 posted 04/28/17 7:38pm

luvgirl

On Amazon in the US, I don't see an expanded edition for pre-order... Am I right?
I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
Reply #552 posted 04/28/17 7:42pm

KingSausage

luvgirl said:

On Amazon in the US, I don't see an expanded edition for pre-order... Am I right?



I pre-ordered the expanded set (3 CDs, 1 DVD) on Amazon in the US a few hours ago.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #553 posted 04/28/17 7:54pm

luvgirl

KingSausage said:

luvgirl said:

On Amazon in the US, I don't see an expanded edition for pre-order... Am I right?



I pre-ordered the expanded set (3 CDs, 1 DVD) on Amazon in the US a few hours ago.


eek Is it because I preordered the album with MP3, so no expanded version?


Edit: I found the right one.
[Edited 4/28/17 20:01pm]
I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
Reply #554 posted 04/28/17 8:04pm

Identity

luvgirl said:

On Amazon in the US, I don't see an expanded edition for pre-order... Am I right?





Here's the link:


http://amzn.to/2pqXHIv

Fear no evil.
Reply #555 posted 04/28/17 8:10pm

luvgirl

Identity said:

 



luvgirl said:


On Amazon in the US, I don't see an expanded edition for pre-order... Am I right?

 







Here's the link:


 



http://amzn.to/2pqXHIv



Thank you. I was totes buying the wrong one! whew
[Edited 4/28/17 20:31pm]
I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
Reply #556 posted 04/28/17 8:15pm

purplethunder3121

KingSausage said:

luvgirl said:
On Amazon in the US, I don't see an expanded edition for pre-order... Am I right?
I pre-ordered the expanded set (3 CDs, 1 DVD) on Amazon in the US a few hours ago.

I don't know how you did that--I can only find the 3 CD/1 DVD set on Amazon Canada or UK.

Find strength in that which remains...
Reply #557 posted 04/28/17 8:25pm

getxxxx

luvgirl said:

Identity said:





Here's the link:


http://amzn.to/2pqXHIv

Thank you. I was totes buying the wrong thing! whew

lol @ 32.98 cheaper elsewhere

Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman
Reply #558 posted 04/28/17 8:35pm

luvgirl

purplethunder3121 said:

 



KingSausage said:


luvgirl said:
On Amazon in the US, I don't see an expanded edition for pre-order... Am I right?

I pre-ordered the expanded set (3 CDs, 1 DVD) on Amazon in the US a few hours ago.

I don't know how you did that--I can only find the 3 CD/1 DVD set on Amazon Canada or UK.



They have so many different ones in the US available to pre-order. I bought the one with the MP3 digital download at first, then realized it didn't come with the DVD! I'm good now though. This link has the right one. http://amzn.to/2pqXHIv
[Edited 4/28/17 21:05pm]
I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
Reply #559 posted 04/28/17 8:46pm

oliviacamron

Question . Is the reason WB used the studio version of Electric Intercourse instead of the First Ave live version would be because WB does not have ownership of the live version ? ?
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
Reply #560 posted 04/28/17 8:52pm

purplethunder3121

luvgirl said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I don't know how you did that--I can only find the 3 CD/1 DVD set on Amazon Canada or UK.

They have so many different ones in the US available to pre-order. I bought the one with the MP3 digital download at first, then realized it didn't come with the DVD! I'm good now though. lol [Edited 4/28/17 20:37pm]

I can't find the 3 CD/1 DVD version for presale on the U.S. Amazon site at all. confused

Find strength in that which remains...
Reply #561 posted 04/28/17 8:52pm

SquirrelMeat

oliviacamron said:

Question . Is the reason WB used the studio version of Electric Intercourse instead of the First Ave live version would be because WB does not have ownership of the live version ? ?


I don't thing anyone on here knows the contractual arrangements, but I say this...If WB rights don't inclide live, then how does the 4th disc contain a live performance?

My guess is the whole PR deluxe package was agreed as whole, with PRN, in return for the masters. But if P didn't frame that in a timescale, then that explains the potential feud between WB and Universal.

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Reply #562 posted 04/28/17 8:59pm

dance4me3121

purplethunder3121 said:

 



luvgirl said:


purplethunder3121 said:

 


I don't know how you did that--I can only find the 3 CD/1 DVD set on Amazon Canada or UK.



They have so many different ones in the US available to pre-order. I bought the one with the MP3 digital download at first, then realized it didn't come with the DVD! I'm good now though. lol [Edited 4/28/17 20:37pm]

I can't find the 3 CD/1 DVD version for presale on the U.S. Amazon site at all. confused


Try this
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0718ZCS6B/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Reply #563 posted 04/28/17 9:27pm

purplethunder3121

dance4me3121 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I can't find the 3 CD/1 DVD version for presale on the U.S. Amazon site at all. confused

Try this https://www.amazon.com/gp...&psc=1

Thanks!

Find strength in that which remains...
Reply #564 posted 04/28/17 11:41pm

jaypotton

TrcikyChristopher said:

 



jaypotton said:


Obviously sound quality and packaging will be the final decider on this but I would say this is a good release. The issue is clearly that Warners told us we would be getting more and therefore set our expectations and Many of us are now disappointed In the Rolling Stone article it said... When we make any of Prince’s music available to fans - from the hits to unreleased gems - we are committed to upholding Prince’s high creative standards and we know fans will be thrilled when they hear these albums and see these films," Warner Bros. Records CEO Cameron Strang said in a statement. You don't get a more senior source than that to quote! He said albumS and filmS plural (yes albums could mean Purple Rain itself). [Edited 4/28/17 11:26am]

Could very well be that The First Avenue concert and other vault material are in the Estate's hands and since the WB deal technically covered WB catalog material, they needed permission.


I'd heard at some point that WB Purple Rain release was a special deal when it came to the deluxe project - separate from their distribution of the rest of the WB work and that Universal (or whoever takes over if they bail) would handle all other vault stuff.


All that being said, it could be that what we waited for is in the hands of the estate waiting for negotiation.



I think it has been established that there are two deals with the Universal deal under threat:

1. Warner Bros signed deal in 2014 with Prince that returned to Prince the master tapes but then gave WBR exclusive rights to release the WBR era albums. Some of the albums have specific deals such as Purple Rain (which WBR retain distribution rights to for ever). In addition this deal covered vault material recorded over that same period (clearly the purpose for such a deal would be to enable WBR to compile deluxe editions).

2. Universal Records signed a deal with the estate in Feb 2017 for distribution rights for all of Prince's post Warner albums and all of the vault material from 1996 onwards (however it appears Universal thought they were going to eventually also get access to the golden goose of the Warner years releases).
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #565 posted 04/28/17 11:54pm

jaypotton

jaypotton said:

laurarichardson said:

 



jaypotton said:


And for those folks saying THIS package is what Prince delivered to Warners I say NO WAY. I would be willing to lay money on the Prince version of PR remastered as having, at most, just one or two unreleased songs (one being Electric Intercourse as he played it live in 2014). I truly believe it would have been 2 X CDs with CD 2 being closer to the single edits b sides and 12 inch edits along with one or two unreleased. There is no way Prince would have included We Can Fuck on there.

I would not be so sure about that I am sure there was something in the agreement that gave him final say and many people said he was not so hard core JW as he had been. 


 


Think about songs like Exlier. He also appeared to be dating a few young ladies so I do not buy that no sex and no cursing stuff.  



True. He even swore on Funknroll so I agree there was a relaxing of the JW side.


Actually Laura thought about this some more and still strongly believe THIS set is not what Prince envisaged (swearing point aside).

Pure speculation on my part (just being clear in that before someone like Bart comes along and accuses me of speculating) but Susan Rogers is on record saying Warners were taking their time with this to get it right. Well if Prince had delivered/finalised HIS version then why did they need to take time to get it right?

Also the whole delay would be explained because Prince didn't deliver to WBR what they expected or wanted from a deluxe edition. They are smart enough to know that if you want to sell something to fans again you need to give them something extra/new (although hopefully learned that you shouldn't mislead people with your press release).

Also wasn't Prince quoted back in 14 or 15 saying that Purple Rain remaster was just the album with no extras? I can imagine Prince doing that..."PR is perfect and will sell all over again so it doesn't need anything extra".

That does kind of undermine me saying I think Prince's version would have had one or two extra songs but my "evidence" for that is him performing EI live in 2014. Seems too much of a coincidence.

Back to the swearing. If Prince had relaxed his JW beliefs a bit then I can see him justifying to himself that he shouldn't mess with previous work (Darling Nikki) but that new songs he wrote didn't need to be in a similar vein?

Edit due to bloody iPad autocorrect ggrrr
[Edited 4/28/17 23:59pm]
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #566 posted 04/29/17 12:04am

Sifi

Hi there, I am getting strong signals that Warner is definitely listening to the comments posted here and elsewhere online. They ARE 100% aware of the expectations based on previous statements. I am convinced they are working hard getting the First Avenue 1983 show up to standards for release.

Unfortunately, it won’t be in time for the announced June 23rd release, but that was the original plan.

It's not someone’s deliberate choice or fault, it's just a matter of how things are, production-wise.

I am confident to say though, that our patience will be rewarded BIG TIME, based on a sample of Let’s Go Crazy, I cranked up the volume and was amazed!

[Edited 4/29/17 6:46am]

[Posting of links to download any music or track(s) is illegal and against site rules for legal reasons. Anyone found violating the rules in any way shape or form will be dealt with accordingly - luv4u]

Reply #567 posted 04/29/17 12:10am

jaypotton

Sifi said:

Hi there, I am getting strong signals that Warner is definitely listening to the comments posted here and elsewhere online. They ARE 100% aware of the expectations based on previous statements. I am convinced they are working hard getting the First Avenue 1983 show up to standards for release.


 


Unfortunately, it won’t be in time for the announced June 23rd release, but that was the original plan.


It's not someone’s deliberate choice or fault, it's just a matter of how things are, production-wise.


 


[Snip - luv4u] 


 


 



Thank.

That makes perfect sense. I can easily imagine the CEO being slightly unaware of specific technical issues and making a statement and people lower down going "oh shit did he just say that, someone needs to tell him this vault material is in a bad condition and is going to take a LOT of work to sort out"

However, this is typical of big corporates in that they do not realise the power of social media and that treating their customers with respect and as human beings is so important. They need to make an official statement if this is true and say...

"Sorry guys our original plans were not possible given the quality of the vault materials and we didn't want to delay this release any further. We are working to get the other material we originally intended to include up to scratch and hope it will be coming in future".

Jeez they need better PR people!
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #568 posted 04/29/17 12:14am

bluegangsta

Sifi said:

Hi there, I am getting strong signals that Warner is definitely listening to the comments posted here and elsewhere online. They ARE 100% aware of the expectations based on previous statements. I am convinced they are working hard getting the First Avenue 1983 show up to standards for release.

Unfortunately, it won’t be in time for the announced June 23rd release, but that was the original plan.

It's not someone’s deliberate choice or fault, it's just a matter of how things are, production-wise.

[Snip - luv4u]

Are you aware of any justifacation for the lack of "two albums of unreleased material"?

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #569 posted 04/29/17 12:29am

JudasLChrist

thebiscuit said:

@Sifi, is this from the First Ave performance? How did you get your hands on this? Very intimate footage. Terrific.


I bought a copy of this on VHS in Minneapolis at a record swap around 1996. It's been circulating, but this is definitely the best audio I've ever heard of it!

I spent a full day being pissed at Warner Bros. Now all is right in the world (so to speak). This sample is great!

[Edited 4/29/17 0:30am]

Reply #570 posted 04/29/17 12:30am

ForceofNature

That clip sounds great, it also makes me excited for the potential upgrade in sound quality for the Syracuse show as well

Reply #571 posted 04/29/17 12:44am

SanDiegoFunkDaddy

It’s missing the unedited versions of Take Me With U, The Beautiful Ones, and Darlin Nikki. They could have dumped all the single edits and put them on that CD.

[Edited 4/29/17 0:44am]

Reply #572 posted 04/29/17 12:48am

SomeSoldier

Sifi said:

Hi there, I am getting strong signals that Warner is definitely listening to the comments posted here and elsewhere online. They ARE 100% aware of the expectations based on previous statements. I am convinced they are working hard getting the First Avenue 1983 show up to standards for release.


 


Unfortunately, it won’t be in time for the announced June 23rd release, but that was the original plan.


It's not someone’s deliberate choice or fault, it's just a matter of how things are, production-wise.


 


[Snip - luv4u] 


 


 


That looks and sound amazing. And it SHOULD be part of this release. Thanks for sharing though, much, much appreciated.
Reply #573 posted 04/29/17 12:52am

jaawwnn

My god, well now look at that. Tell them to delay the damn thing and get it done, thats quality worth waiting for!
Reply #574 posted 04/29/17 12:56am

FragileUndertow

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

It’s missing the unedited versions of Take Me With U, The Beautiful Ones, and Darlin Nikki. They could have dumped all the single edits and put them on that CD.

and alt versions of When does cry (with bassline) I would die for you (alt) purple rain with out strings

the countless other versions of computer blue

Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
Reply #575 posted 04/29/17 1:05am

MiceElfAgin

Sifi said:

Hi there, I am getting strong signals that Warner is definitely listening to the comments posted here and elsewhere online. They ARE 100% aware of the expectations based on previous statements. I am convinced they are working hard getting the First Avenue 1983 show up to standards for release.

Unfortunately, it won’t be in time for the announced June 23rd release, but that was the original plan.

It's not someone’s deliberate choice or fault, it's just a matter of how things are, production-wise.

[Snip - luv4u]

.
Thanks, Sifi.
.
I can understand that remastering the First Avenue show takes longer than predicted.
.
What I absolutely cannot understand though is how come such an important release as this Purple Rain Deluxe set come out with a DVD in 2017 and not with a BluRay! I know that the Syracuse show wasn't recorded in HD, but I'm dreading to see and hear a PAL DVD with the 4% speed up. Even if the soundtrack is pitchshifted back to normal key, the tempo would still be 4% faster and these artifacts make me practically unable to enjoy the music. (If it comes out only on NTSC, then picture quality will suffer a bit.)
.
C'mon, Warners, it's 2017. We need a BluRay. Don't go so cheap on this one!
.
And don't even get me started on not having 24bit/96kHz versions included in the set. That is standard practice these days for a lot of deluxe editions, such as Steve Wilson's Jethro Tull and other remixes.
.

Oh yeah, and why on Earth did they have to mess with the artwork and rotate the main photo?
.


[Edited 4/29/17 2:59am]

Reply #576 posted 04/29/17 1:07am

mantaray31

Thanks Sifi for sharing that great sample!

Reply #577 posted 04/29/17 1:08am

JudasLChrist

MiceElfAgin said:

Sifi said:

Hi there, I am getting strong signals that Warner is definitely listening to the comments posted here and elsewhere online. They ARE 100% aware of the expectations based on previous statements. I am convinced they are working hard getting the First Avenue 1983 show up to standards for release.

Unfortunately, it won’t be in time for the announced June 23rd release, but that was the original plan.

It's not someone’s deliberate choice or fault, it's just a matter of how things are, production-wise.

[Snip - luv4u]

.
Thanks, Sifi.
.
I can understand that remastering the First Avenue show takes longer than predicted.
.
What I absolutely cannot understand though is how come such an important release as this Purple Rain Deluxe set come out with a DVD in 2017 and not with a BluRay! I know that the Syracuse show wasn't recorded in HD, but I'm dreading to see and hear a PAL DVD with the 4% speed up. Even if the soundtrack is pitchshifted back to normal key, the tempo would still be 4% faster and these artifacts make me practically unable to enjoy the music. (If it comes out only on NTSC, then picture quality will suffer a bit.)
.
C'mon, Warners, it's 2017. We need a BluRay. Don't go so cheap on this one!
.
And don't even get me started on not having 24bit/96kHz versions included in the set. That is standard practice these days for a lot of deluxe editions, such as Steve Wilson's Jethro Tull and other remixes.
.


I don't have any love for Blueray. It makes films look like video. It's discomfiting! Honestly, just give it to us in high quality MP4 and it will be cool!

Reply #578 posted 04/29/17 1:11am

MiceElfAgin

JudasLChrist said:

MiceElfAgin said:

.
Thanks, Sifi.
.
I can understand that remastering the First Avenue show takes longer than predicted.
.
What I absolutely cannot understand though is how come such an important release as this Purple Rain Deluxe set come out with a DVD in 2017 and not with a BluRay! I know that the Syracuse show wasn't recorded in HD, but I'm dreading to see and hear a PAL DVD with the 4% speed up. Even if the soundtrack is pitchshifted back to normal key, the tempo would still be 4% faster and these artifacts make me practically unable to enjoy the music. (If it comes out only on NTSC, then picture quality will suffer a bit.)
.
C'mon, Warners, it's 2017. We need a BluRay. Don't go so cheap on this one!
.
And don't even get me started on not having 24bit/96kHz versions included in the set. That is standard practice these days for a lot of deluxe editions, such as Steve Wilson's Jethro Tull and other remixes.
.


I don't have any love for Blueray. It makes films look like video.

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If it does on certain releases, then that's a mastering issue – not the characteristics of the BluRay format itself.
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And even with that slight artifact, would you really rather go for a PAL DVD that plays in the wrong key and with wrong tempo? I know I wouldn't.
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[Edited 4/29/17 1:13am]

Reply #579 posted 04/29/17 1:12am

love2thenines2003

I pray 4 a SUPERDELUXE EDITION a la u2 Achtung Baby or Pink Floyd Immersion with 1st Av 83. concert and the demo versions/alternate takes of the PURPLE RAIN ALBUM + goodies/memoralia....WB can do that.....Purple rain & Prince Legacy deserve this kind of release!

Pleaz Sifi....delive this INFO to WB....thanx in advance

Reply #580 posted 04/29/17 1:18am

love2thenines2003

bfunk said:

Sifi said:

Hi there, I am getting strong signals that Warner is definitely listening to the comments posted here and elsewhere online. They ARE 100% aware of the expectations based on previous statements. I am convinced they are working hard getting the First Avenue 1983 show up to standards for release.

Unfortunately, it won’t be in time for the announced June 23rd release, but that was the original plan.

It's not someone’s deliberate choice or fault, it's just a matter of how things are, production-wise.

I am confident to say though, that our patience will be rewarded BIG TIME, based on this sample of Let’s Go Crazy https://we.tl/5lSgbuyLOy I cranked up the volume and was amazed!

OMFG, thank u so much.

Thank u 2 Times SIFI biggrin biggrin biggrin

Reply #581 posted 04/29/17 1:18am

Marco81

Sifi said:

Hi there, I am getting strong signals that Warner is definitely listening to the comments posted here and elsewhere online. They ARE 100% aware of the expectations based on previous statements. I am convinced they are working hard getting the First Avenue 1983 show up to standards for release.


 


Unfortunately, it won’t be in time for the announced June 23rd release, but that was the original plan.


It's not someone’s deliberate choice or fault, it's just a matter of how things are, production-wise.


 


[Snip - luv4u] 


 


 


well that is interesting, could you ask them 2 questions? 1) how many times do they want fans to buy the deluxe package then and 2) where the hell is the 2nd disc of unearthed material?
Reply #582 posted 04/29/17 1:37am

BoraBora


Maybe, simply to avoid more delays, WB decided to do 2 different releases, with the Avenue Show released later this years in a CD/DVD combo.

This would justify the low prices of the Purple Rain Anniversary Editions, the fact that we now have "Electric Intercourse (Studio Version)" and the fact that in the original press release there was the line "2 unreleased albums" ("From The Archive" and "Avenue Show").

We'll see it.



Reply #583 posted 04/29/17 1:37am

jaawwnn

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

It’s missing the unedited versions of Take Me With U, The Beautiful Ones, and Darlin Nikki. They could have dumped all the single edits and put them on that CD.

[Edited 4/29/17 0:44am]


I see people elsewhere saying "thank you for including the 7" edits, pay attention other bands who don't respect the wishes of your fans, this is how its done". So yeah, clearly the correct request is for them to include both, we shouldn't be second guessing WB's budget.
Reply #584 posted 04/29/17 2:18am

mrmaxwell

Sifi said:

Hi there, I am getting strong signals that Warner is definitely listening to the comments posted here and elsewhere online. They ARE 100% aware of the expectations based on previous statements. I am convinced they are working hard getting the First Avenue 1983 show up to standards for release.

Unfortunately, it won’t be in time for the announced June 23rd release, but that was the original plan.

It's not someone’s deliberate choice or fault, it's just a matter of how things are, production-wise.

I am confident to say though, that our patience will be rewarded BIG TIME, based on this sample of Let’s Go Crazy https://we.tl/5lSgbuyLOy I cranked up the volume and was amazed!



Amazing sample thank you!

The sound as expected is perfect - after all it was recorded via a 24 track mobile studio truck!

Regardless of how clean WB can get the footage they need to release this - besides the Small Club aftershow this is the holy grail of Prince bootlegs!

Reply #585 posted 04/29/17 3:14am

KingSausage

My toddler woke me up at 5:00 a.m. because she was sick. I am now happy to be awake so damn early on Saturday because that sample clip is AMAZING. Holy crap.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #586 posted 04/29/17 3:19am

TheEnglishGent

JudasLChrist said:

MiceElfAgin said:

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Thanks, Sifi.
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I can understand that remastering the First Avenue show takes longer than predicted.
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What I absolutely cannot understand though is how come such an important release as this Purple Rain Deluxe set come out with a DVD in 2017 and not with a BluRay! I know that the Syracuse show wasn't recorded in HD, but I'm dreading to see and hear a PAL DVD with the 4% speed up. Even if the soundtrack is pitchshifted back to normal key, the tempo would still be 4% faster and these artifacts make me practically unable to enjoy the music. (If it comes out only on NTSC, then picture quality will suffer a bit.)
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C'mon, Warners, it's 2017. We need a BluRay. Don't go so cheap on this one!
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And don't even get me started on not having 24bit/96kHz versions included in the set. That is standard practice these days for a lot of deluxe editions, such as Steve Wilson's Jethro Tull and other remixes.
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I don't have any love for Blueray. It makes films look like video. It's discomfiting! Honestly, just give it to us in high quality MP4 and it will be cool!

That's just not true, Blu-Ray is the physical format most able to reproduce films with its suport for 24fps, which matches movie format. For an NTSC DVD you get jerky motion due to the 3:2 pulldown in order for the framerate to match over a 2 second period, and with PAL they just double the frames up and play it back resulting in a 4% speed up of video and the assosciated pitch shift in the audio which comes from it playing faster. Both solutions are pretty nasty really.


RIP sad
Reply #587 posted 04/29/17 3:32am

RODSERLING

TheEnglishGent said:

Se7en said:


Is there such a thing as remastering video tape (VHS)? I didn't think there was, at least not the extent of transferring it to HD/Blu-Ray.

There is if there is better source material than a VHS.

I suspect they don't have the original tape thiese morons.

Ptherwise, it would have been remastered in HD and released on blu ray at 25 $ alone. And this is pretty much the price of the entire set (!). So we can expect a very weak video material, just like the dvd transfert of THE HITS, DIAMONDS AND PEARLS. It took monts and a lot of money to remasterise 2 hours movie.

.

Remember the BAD 25 flop. MAinly because of the poor video quality of the live included. Worst than a VHS, frankly. Sony said to calm down fans, that it was remastered by the NASA, and they did as much as they could do. The truth is that they didn't have the original tapes. The ydon't know where they are, and don't want to spend money on it.

BAD 25 flopped so much, Sony didn't want to release DANGEROUS 25 last year.

.

This is what will happen with this PURPLE RAIN release, believe me.

[Edited 4/29/17 3:37am]

Reply #588 posted 04/29/17 3:39am

jjam

That clip of Let's Go Crazy sounds incredible!

Reply #589 posted 04/29/17 3:47am

bluegangsta

RODSERLING said:

I suspect they don't have the original tape thiese morons.

Ptherwise, it would have been remastered in HD and released on blu ray at 25 $ alone. And this is pretty much the price of the entire set (!). So we can expect a very weak video material, just like the dvd transfert of THE HITS, DIAMONDS AND PEARLS. It took monts and a lot of money to remasterise 2 hours movie.

.

Remember the BAD 25 flop. MAinly because of the poor video quality of the live included. Worst than a VHS, frankly. Sony said to calm down fans, that it was remastered by the NASA, and they did as much as they could do. The truth is that they didn't have the original tapes. The ydon't know where they are, and don't want to spend money on it.

BAD 25 flopped so much, Sony didn't want to release DANGEROUS 25 last year.

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This is what will happen with this PURPLE RAIN release, believe me.

[Edited 4/29/17 3:37am]

1. They're not morons for not owning a 30 year old tape that was probaly the property of Prince, who let his vault rot.
2. Remastering a VHS to HD? Ha!

3. "This is what will happen"? We know what's happening. No need for a facile prediction.

[Edited 4/29/17 3:48am]

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #590 posted 04/29/17 3:53am

connorhawke

Hi.

Not sure if this was already posted.

JBHi-Fi for the AU/NZ contingent:

Single vinyl:

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/music/Whats-Hot/rock-pop/purple-rain-vinyl-remastered/442718/

Deluxe:

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/music/browse/rock-pop/purple-rain-deluxe-edition/442710/

Super Deluxe:

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/music/browse/rock-pop/purple-rain-superdeluxe-expanded-edition/442714/

"...and If all of this Love Talk ends with Prince getting married to someone other than me, all I would like to do is give Prince a life size Purple Fabric Cloud Guitar that I made from a vintage bedspread that I used as a Christmas Tree Skirt." Tame, Feb
Reply #591 posted 04/29/17 3:54am

MiceElfAgin

bluegangsta said:

RODSERLING said:

I suspect they don't have the original tape thiese morons.

Ptherwise, it would have been remastered in HD and released on blu ray at 25 $ alone. And this is pretty much the price of the entire set (!). So we can expect a very weak video material, just like the dvd transfert of THE HITS, DIAMONDS AND PEARLS. It took monts and a lot of money to remasterise 2 hours movie.

.

Remember the BAD 25 flop. MAinly because of the poor video quality of the live included. Worst than a VHS, frankly. Sony said to calm down fans, that it was remastered by the NASA, and they did as much as they could do. The truth is that they didn't have the original tapes. The ydon't know where they are, and don't want to spend money on it.

BAD 25 flopped so much, Sony didn't want to release DANGEROUS 25 last year.

.

This is what will happen with this PURPLE RAIN release, believe me.

[Edited 4/29/17 3:37am]

1. They're not morons for owning a 30 year old tae that was probaly the property of Prince, who let his vault rot.
2. Remastering a VHS to HD? Ha!

3. "This is what will happen"? We know what's happening. No need for a facile prediction.

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Jeez, guys! Prince did not let his vault "rot". You (or me) don't even know if the video master for this show was stored at Paisley or perhaps at Warners.

Also: stop talking about "remastering from VHS". Just because it first came out on VHS, that doesn't mean it was recorded on VHS – quite obviously it wasn't! VHS is not a professional format (actually it was the worst of the consumer video formats too) therefore it wasn't ever used for professional recording. Probably it was recorded on U-matic (BVU) or Beta.

Reply #592 posted 04/29/17 3:55am

connorhawke

Also, to confirm: this is the maximum for this release? 2xCD=1DVD? No bluray editions and no second concert?

If I lay down the AU$80 I'm not going to be confronted wuth a SuperMegaDeluxe or some crap in a couple of months?

"...and If all of this Love Talk ends with Prince getting married to someone other than me, all I would like to do is give Prince a life size Purple Fabric Cloud Guitar that I made from a vintage bedspread that I used as a Christmas Tree Skirt." Tame, Feb
Reply #593 posted 04/29/17 3:59am

SomeSoldier

What are the chances of a super deluxe set, including the First Avenue show and the vinyl being released at a later date? I wouldn't have any problems with that, as long as they annnounce it before the others are released!
Reply #594 posted 04/29/17 4:03am

MiceElfAgin

SomeSoldier said:

What are the chances of a super deluxe set, including the First Avenue show and the vinyl being released at a later date? I wouldn't have any problems with that, as long as they annnounce it before the others are released!

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Announcing it before these are released? smile I think that would surely result in WB firing its entire marketing department! smile

Don't count on it.

Reply #595 posted 04/29/17 4:18am

darkroman

I find it a little odd that the two disc edition has the vault tracks as disc 2 rather than the remixes / edit.

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lol lol lol

Reply #596 posted 04/29/17 4:27am

jaypotton

MiceElfAgin said:

 



bluegangsta said:


 



RODSERLING said:


I suspect they don't have the original tape thiese morons.


Ptherwise, it would have been remastered in HD and released on blu ray at 25 $ alone. And this is pretty much the price of the entire set (!). So we can expect a very weak video material, just like the dvd transfert of THE HITS, DIAMONDS AND PEARLS. It took monts and a lot of money to remasterise  2 hours movie.


.


Remember the BAD 25 flop. MAinly because of the poor video quality of the live included. Worst than a VHS, frankly. Sony said to calm down fans, that it was remastered by the NASA, and they did as much as they could do. The truth is that they didn't have the original tapes. The ydon't know where they are, and don't want to spend money on it.


BAD 25 flopped so much, Sony didn't want to release DANGEROUS 25 last year.


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This is what will happen with this PURPLE RAIN release, believe me.


[Edited 4/29/17 3:37am]



1. They're not morons for owning a 30 year old tae that was probaly the property of Prince, who let his vault rot.
2. Remastering a VHS to HD? Ha!


3. "This is what will happen"? We know what's happening. No need for a facile prediction.



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Jeez, guys! Prince did not let his vault "rot". You (or me) don't even know if the video master for this show was stored at Paisley or perhaps at Warners.

Also: stop talking about "remastering from VHS". Just because it first came out on VHS, that doesn't mean it was recorded on VHS – quite obviously it wasn't! VHS is not a professional format (actually it was the worst of the consumer video formats too) therefore it wasn't ever used for professional recording. Probably it was recorded on U-matic (BVU) or Beta.



1. Actually WE all actually KNOW nothing when it comes to the vault. None of us have seen it or been in it. The one thing we do know is that back in the 90s HM Buff (pretty sure it was him) said in an interview that the vault was in a bad way and that many of the tapes were deteriorating and needed to be baked and also digitised but that Prince wasn't that interested (at the time).

2. Professional video formats...I already said this on bottom of page 17 but clearly nobody reads so you need to repeat!
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #597 posted 04/29/17 4:29am

jaypotton

MiceElfAgin said:

 



SomeSoldier said:


What are the chances of a super deluxe set, including the First Avenue show and the vinyl being released at a later date? I wouldn't have any problems with that, as long as they annnounce it before the others are released!

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Announcing it before these are released? smile I think that would surely result in WB firing its entire marketing department! smile

Don't count on it. 



Said it before, I will lay money on their being further Purple Rain releases at some point. 40th anniversary anyone?

As long as there is a market and the revenue opportunity outstrips the cost and effort, they will do it.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #598 posted 04/29/17 4:37am

MiceElfAgin

jaypotton said:


MiceElfAgin said:

stop talking about "remastering from VHS". Just because it first came out on VHS, that doesn't mean it was recorded on VHS – quite obviously it wasn't! VHS is not a professional format (actually it was the worst of the consumer video formats too) therefore it wasn't ever used for professional recording. Probably it was recorded on U-matic (BVU) or Beta.

I already said this on bottom of page 17 but clearly nobody reads so you need to repeat!

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I beg your pardon for not reading back dozens of pages every time before I reply to someone! smile (Especially when there are lunatics around who just have to produce 300 posts daily... Not referring to you.)

Reply #599 posted 04/29/17 4:41am

bluegangsta

jaypotton said:

MiceElfAgin said:

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Jeez, guys! Prince did not let his vault "rot". You (or me) don't even know if the video master for this show was stored at Paisley or perhaps at Warners.

Also: stop talking about "remastering from VHS". Just because it first came out on VHS, that doesn't mean it was recorded on VHS – quite obviously it wasn't! VHS is not a professional format (actually it was the worst of the consumer video formats too) therefore it wasn't ever used for professional recording. Probably it was recorded on U-matic (BVU) or Beta.

1. Actually WE all actually KNOW nothing when it comes to the vault. None of us have seen it or been in it. The one thing we do know is that back in the 90s HM Buff (pretty sure it was him) said in an interview that the vault was in a bad way and that many of the tapes were deteriorating and needed to be baked and also digitised but that Prince wasn't that interested (at the time). 2. Professional video formats...I already said this on bottom of page 17 but clearly nobody reads so you need to repeat!

We've had confirmation from engineers that the environmental control in the vault was broken down for an extended period.

You can tell from the snippet that upscaling the video (whatever format...) would be next to useless. The only benifit for a Blu Ray release would be lossless sound.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #600 posted 04/29/17 4:44am

MiceElfAgin

bluegangsta said:

You can tell from the snippet that upscaling the video (whatever format...) would be next to useless. The only benifit for a Blu Ray release would be lossless sound.

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It's not about upscaling (although a little bit of improvement can be achieved that way too). It's about having it on BluRay to avoid the horrible 4% speed up of PAL DVDs. It's a music video, so even if the picture quality is not that great, at least the music should play in the right key and tempo!

[Edited 4/29/17 4:45am]

Reply #601 posted 04/29/17 4:48am

bluegangsta

MiceElfAgin said:

bluegangsta said:

You can tell from the snippet that upscaling the video (whatever format...) would be next to useless. The only benifit for a Blu Ray release would be lossless sound.

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It's not about upscaling (although a little bit of improvement can be achieved that way too). It's about having it on BluRay to avoid the horrible 4% speed up of PAL DVDs. It's a music video, so even if the picture quality is not that great, at least the music should play in the right key and tempo!

[Edited 4/29/17 4:45am]

Many lables are aware of the 4% speed up, so they correct it before it goes to press. Otherwise, buy the NTSC version?

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #602 posted 04/29/17 4:52am

MiceElfAgin

bluegangsta said:

MiceElfAgin said:

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It's not about upscaling (although a little bit of improvement can be achieved that way too). It's about having it on BluRay to avoid the horrible 4% speed up of PAL DVDs. It's a music video, so even if the picture quality is not that great, at least the music should play in the right key and tempo!

[Edited 4/29/17 4:45am]

Many lables are aware of the 4% speed up, so they correct it before it goes to press. Otherwise, buy the NTSC version?

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You can only correct the key by digital pitchshifting, but that won't correct the speedup in tempo.

NTSC is worse in picture quality.

We need BluRay.

Reply #603 posted 04/29/17 4:55am

bluegangsta

MiceElfAgin said:

You can only correct the key by digital pitchshifting, but that won't correct the speedup in tempo.

What? They change the speed of the playback BEFORE they convert it to PAL. Then, it's the correct speed.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #604 posted 04/29/17 5:13am

MiceElfAgin

bluegangsta said:

MiceElfAgin said:

You can only correct the key by digital pitchshifting, but that won't correct the speedup in tempo.

What? They change the speed of the playback BEFORE they convert it to PAL. Then, it's the correct speed.

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smile It's far from being as simple as you might think. Coverting 24fps to 25fps is a tricky task and is never without negative side-effects.

We need BluRay. I think Warners could afford the the extra cost in mastering.

Reply #605 posted 04/29/17 5:19am

JudasLChrist

MiceElfAgin said:

bluegangsta said:

Many lables are aware of the 4% speed up, so they correct it before it goes to press. Otherwise, buy the NTSC version?

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You can only correct the key by digital pitchshifting, but that won't correct the speedup in tempo.

NTSC is worse in picture quality.

We need BluRay.


I don't know where you get that. NTSC has a faster frame rate than PAL, and besides the show was shot in NTSC. So, there's not going to be any conversion difficuties or anything like that.

Reply #606 posted 04/29/17 5:20am

bluegangsta

MiceElfAgin said:

bluegangsta said:

What? They change the speed of the playback BEFORE they convert it to PAL. Then, it's the correct speed.

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smile It's far from being as simple as you might think. Coverting 24fps to 25fps is a tricky task and is never without negative side-effects.

Oh, boy - I guess I should have spent 3 years in film school or something...

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #607 posted 04/29/17 5:27am

BartVanHemelen

jaypotton said:


1. Actually WE all actually KNOW nothing when it comes to the vault. None of us have seen it or been in it. The one thing we do know is that back in the 90s HM Buff (pretty sure it was him) said in an interview that the vault was in a bad way and that many of the tapes were deteriorating and needed to be baked and also digitised but that Prince wasn't that interested (at the time).

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There have been several independent stories of the vault's AC having failed, of tapes being strewn accross the floor, of it being so full tapes were stacked in the room before the vault, etc. Considering the Elvis estate admitting to having parties each weekend to fund repairs of PP because some parts were in a bad state is also not reassuring.

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Reply #608 posted 04/29/17 5:30am

BartVanHemelen

JudasLChrist said:

I don't have any love for Blueray. It makes films look like video.

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Utter nonsense.

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Reply #609 posted 04/29/17 5:34am

KingSausage

BartVanHemelen said:

 



JudasLChrist said:


 


I don't have any love for Blueray. It makes films look like video. 



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Utter nonsense.




Right?! I wonder if they have the "soap opera effect" but are blaming the blu-ray format rather than changing settings on their HDTV.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #610 posted 04/29/17 5:35am

BartVanHemelen

jaypotton said:

jaypotton said:
True. He even swore on Funknroll so I agree there was a relaxing of the JW side.
Actually Laura thought about this some more and still strongly believe THIS set is not what Prince envisaged (swearing point aside).

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What Prince envisaged was him having his cake and eating it as well.

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Reply #611 posted 04/29/17 5:37am

Militant

moderator

When I had lunch with Manuela in February, she confirmed that there were occasions when Prince would ask for a reel to be brought up to the studio from the vault, and it would be damaged beyond repair cry

And that, of course, was over 10 years ago.



Reply #612 posted 04/29/17 5:39am

BartVanHemelen

Sifi said:

Hi there, I am getting strong signals that Warner is definitely listening to the comments posted here and elsewhere online. They ARE 100% aware of the expectations based on previous statements. I am convinced they are working hard getting the First Avenue 1983 show up to standards for release.

Unfortunately, it won’t be in time for the announced June 23rd release, but that was the original plan.

It's not someone’s deliberate choice or fault, it's just a matter of how things are, production-wise.

.

Exactly. And there couldn't be much more delay, because then they were competing with long-planned Autumn releases and the compilations etc. for the Christmas market etc. This needed to be out ASAP, simple as that. I wouldn't be surprised if there are other promo activities tied to this, including perhaps exclusive magazine features etc., and those were tied to a schedule as well. Delaying this more weeks or even months was likely not an option.

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Reply #613 posted 04/29/17 5:41am

BartVanHemelen

bluegangsta said:

Are you aware of any justifacation for the lack of "two albums of unreleased material"?

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As I've said before: August 1983 show = "album of unreleased material". I've warned in the past that you shouldn't take record company promises literally.

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Reply #614 posted 04/29/17 5:42am

tbokris

That's not good. Not good at all

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Militant said:

When I had lunch with Manuela in February, she confirmed that there were occasions when Prince would ask for a reel to be brought up to the studio from the vault, and it would be damaged beyond repair cry

And that, of course, was over 10 years ago.



Reply #615 posted 04/29/17 5:51am

KingSausage

Militant said:

When I had lunch with Manuela in February, she confirmed that there were occasions when Prince would ask for a reel to be brought up to the studio from the vault, and it would be damaged beyond repair cry  


 


And that, of course, was over 10 years ago. 



 




That's awful.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #616 posted 04/29/17 5:59am

JudasLChrist

BartVanHemelen said:

JudasLChrist said:

I don't have any love for Blueray. It makes films look like video.

.

Utter nonsense.


Fuck you Bart! smile

Reply #617 posted 04/29/17 6:04am

JudasLChrist

KingSausage said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Utter nonsense.

Right?! I wonder if they have the "soap opera effect" but are blaming the blu-ray format rather than changing settings on their HDTV.


Et tu, Brute?

Honestly, my only experiene with Blue Ray is going over to my friends house and watching classic movies, and they just look really weird. They look like video, that's the only way I can describe it. I don't know what 'the soap opera effect' is.

Note: I used to work in video production, and spent hours upon hours dealing with issues of video quality, but that was before blu-ray, really.

Reply #618 posted 04/29/17 6:07am

Identity

BartVanHemelen said:

There have been several independent stories of the vault's AC having failed, of tapes being strewn accross the floor, of it being so full tapes were stacked in the room before the vault, etc. Considering the Elvis estate admitting to having parties each weekend to fund repairs of PP because some parts were in a bad state is also not reassuring.




Indeed, PP had suffered from long-neglected maintenance and needed repairs:


Several million dollars were spent last year to rehabilitate the 30-year-old building, including work on the roof and the heating and cooling systems. More structural work was needed. Money for all this could not come from the estate, which has the first priority of paying off an estimated $100 million tax bill heightened by Prince’s lack of a will. (Star Tribune, April 2017)

Fear no evil.
Reply #619 posted 04/29/17 6:09am

KingSausage

JudasLChrist said:

 



KingSausage said:


BartVanHemelen said:

 


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Utter nonsense.



Right?! I wonder if they have the "soap opera effect" but are blaming the blu-ray format rather than changing settings on their HDTV.


Et tu, Brute?

Honestly, my only experiene with Blue Ray is going over to my friends house and watching classic movies, and they just look really weird. They look like video, that's the only way I can describe it. I don't know what 'the soap opera effect' is.

Note: I used to work in video production, and spent hours upon hours dealing with issues of video quality, but that was before blu-ray, really.




The settings on your friend's TV are probably good for things like sports but shitty for films. For example, Samsung HDTVs have a setting called "Action Motion Plus" or some bullshit. It's terrible for movies. It WILL make them look like video because it messes with the frame rate.
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Reply #620 posted 04/29/17 6:46am

eyewishuheaven

Much appreciation to SiFi for bringing the real talk in here.

And you folks complaining that you have these (unreleased) songs already: are you the same ones who said, "hey man, I'd buy 'em if I could!"? lol

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Reply #621 posted 04/29/17 6:51am

tbokris

Touché. So many whiners up in this nasty joint

said:

Much appreciation to SiFi for bringing the real talk in here.

And you folks complaining that you have these (unreleased) songs already: are you the same ones who said, "hey man, I'd buy 'em if I could!"?  lol

Reply #622 posted 04/29/17 7:07am

bluegangsta

eyewishuheaven said:

Much appreciation to SiFi for bringing the real talk in here.

And you folks complaining that you have these (unreleased) songs already: are you the same ones who said, "hey man, I'd buy 'em if I could!"? lol

The primary complaint regarding the unreleased song is that there are supposed to be "two albums".

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #623 posted 04/29/17 7:13am

leecaldon

JudasLChrist said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Utter nonsense.


Fuck you Bart! smile

I'm with Bart on this one smile

Reply #624 posted 04/29/17 7:13am

eyewishuheaven

bluegangsta said:

eyewishuheaven said:

Much appreciation to SiFi for bringing the real talk in here.

And you folks complaining that you have these (unreleased) songs already: are you the same ones who said, "hey man, I'd buy 'em if I could!"? lol

The primary complaint regarding the unreleased song is that there are supposed to be "two albums".


I get that, and they have a fair point. I was talking to the people saying, "I already have these!"

That said, while it was pretty sketchy to say "two albums", we are getting 76 minutes of unreleased music here. That's longer than 1999, and almost as long as Sign o' the Times!

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Reply #625 posted 04/29/17 7:15am

leecaldon

KingSausage said:

Militant said:

When I had lunch with Manuela in February, she confirmed that there were occasions when Prince would ask for a reel to be brought up to the studio from the vault, and it would be damaged beyond repair cry

And that, of course, was over 10 years ago.



That's awful.

I'd not heard this before, and it fills me with sadness. I wonder if 'beyond repair' is beyond what they could do in PP or beyond what is possible with money and expertise.

Reply #626 posted 04/29/17 7:25am

Revolution81

Militant said:

When I had lunch with Manuela in February, she confirmed that there were occasions when Prince would ask for a reel to be brought up to the studio from the vault, and it would be damaged beyond repair cry

And that, of course, was over 10 years ago.



Manuela chats shite. No tapes are gonna be damaged "beyond repair" just laying in a room. Damaged sure, but not beyond repair

Reply #627 posted 04/29/17 7:35am

NorthC

BartVanHemelen said:

 



bluegangsta said:



 



Are you aware of any justifacation for the lack of "two albums of unreleased material"?



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As I've said before: August 1983 show = "album of unreleased material". I've warned in the past that you shouldn't take record company promises literally.


If you promise two albums of unreleased music PLUS two concert films, then those are oviously two different things. And, no matter how you look at it, WB didn't keep that promise.
Don't ever lose your dreams.
Reply #628 posted 04/29/17 7:37am

djThunderfunk

Revolution81 said:

Militant said:

When I had lunch with Manuela in February, she confirmed that there were occasions when Prince would ask for a reel to be brought up to the studio from the vault, and it would be damaged beyond repair cry

And that, of course, was over 10 years ago.



Manuela chats shite. No tapes are gonna be damaged "beyond repair" just laying in a room. Damaged sure, but not beyond repair


Of course tapes can be damaged beyond repair. In fact, stored properly tapes still deteriorate, given enough time they deteriorate beyond repair. Stored improperly, it happens even faster.


We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
Reply #629 posted 04/29/17 7:40am

jjam

Revolution81 said:

Militant said:

When I had lunch with Manuela in February, she confirmed that there were occasions when Prince would ask for a reel to be brought up to the studio from the vault, and it would be damaged beyond repair cry

And that, of course, was over 10 years ago.



Manuela chats shite. No tapes are gonna be damaged "beyond repair" just laying in a room. Damaged sure, but not beyond repair

Yep. You even had the recent case of some Bob Marley reels having been discovered in a London hotel basement, which were heavily water damaged - but they've been restored.

I know I've mentioned this before but the multis for his albums were digitally transferred in the early 2000s - so I don't buy into this whole thing of a lot of what's in the vault being beyond salvaging.

Reply #630 posted 04/29/17 7:43am

jjam

djThunderfunk said:

Revolution81 said:

Manuela chats shite. No tapes are gonna be damaged "beyond repair" just laying in a room. Damaged sure, but not beyond repair


Of course tapes can be damaged beyond repair. In fact, stored properly tapes still deteriorate, given enough time they deteriorate beyond repair. Stored improperly, it happens even faster.


It's pretty rare these days though, such is the level of progression in audio techniques - it can be painstaking and expensive though.

Reply #631 posted 04/29/17 7:45am

Revolution81

jjam said:

Revolution81 said:

Manuela chats shite. No tapes are gonna be damaged "beyond repair" just laying in a room. Damaged sure, but not beyond repair

Yep. You even had the recent case of some Bob Marley reels having been discovered in a London hotel basement, which were heavily water damaged - but they've been restored.

I know I've mentioned this before but the multis for his albums were digitally transferred in the early 2000s - so I don't buy into this whole thing of a lot of what's in the vault being beyond salvaging.

Exactly. Those Marley tapes were sat in a flooded basement for 40 YEARS. They were in an awful state, truly "beyond repair". Yet they were able to clean those up to audiophile grade sound quality (done just down the road from where i live incidently).

So i dont doubt tapes in PP may have some damage and need work, but no way are they beyond saving

Reply #632 posted 04/29/17 7:53am

jaypotton

MiceElfAgin said:

 



jaypotton said:




MiceElfAgin said:


stop talking about "remastering from VHS". Just because it first came out on VHS, that doesn't mean it was recorded on VHS – quite obviously it wasn't! VHS is not a professional format (actually it was the worst of the consumer video formats too) therefore it wasn't ever used for professional recording. Probably it was recorded on U-matic (BVU) or Beta.



I already said this on bottom of page 17 but clearly nobody reads so you need to repeat!

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I beg your pardon for not reading back dozens of pages every time before I reply to someone! smile (Especially when there are lunatics around who just have to produce 300 posts daily... Not referring to you.)



lol and I beg your pardon for appearing to lambast you. I wasn't. It does just feel like the same things have to be repeated so often as some folk simply don't get some simple basic facts sigh
[Edited 4/29/17 8:12am]
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Reply #633 posted 04/29/17 7:57am

jaypotton

BartVanHemelen said:

 



jaypotton said:



1. Actually WE all actually KNOW nothing when it comes to the vault. None of us have seen it or been in it. The one thing we do know is that back in the 90s HM Buff (pretty sure it was him) said in an interview that the vault was in a bad way and that many of the tapes were deteriorating and needed to be baked and also digitised but that Prince wasn't that interested (at the time).  

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There have been several independent stories of the vault's AC having failed, of tapes being strewn accross the floor, of it being so full tapes were stacked in the room before the vault, etc. Considering the Elvis estate admitting to having parties each weekend to fund repairs of PP because some parts were in a bad state is also not reassuring. 



There we go then. I could only actually remember the HM Buff interview but suspected there were others who witnessed and reported similar concerns.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #634 posted 04/29/17 8:00am

jaypotton

Militant said:

When I had lunch with Manuela in February, she confirmed that there were occasions when Prince would ask for a reel to be brought up to the studio from the vault, and it would be damaged beyond repair cry  


 


And that, of course, was over 10 years ago. 



 



Sad to think but I suspect there are some vault classics that will remain forever available only amongst bootleg collections!
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #635 posted 04/29/17 8:03am

jaypotton

BartVanHemelen said:

 



Sifi said:


Hi there, I am getting strong signals that Warner is definitely listening to the comments posted here and elsewhere online. They ARE 100% aware of the expectations based on previous statements. I am convinced they are working hard getting the First Avenue 1983 show up to standards for release.


 


Unfortunately, it won’t be in time for the announced June 23rd release, but that was the original plan.


It's not someone’s deliberate choice or fault, it's just a matter of how things are, production-wise.


 



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Exactly. And there couldn't be much more delay, because then they were competing with long-planned Autumn releases and the compilations etc. for the Christmas market etc. This needed to be out ASAP, simple as that. I wouldn't be surprised if there are other promo activities tied to this, including perhaps exclusive magazine features etc., and those were tied to a schedule as well. Delaying this more weeks or even months was likely not an option.



Bart you are flip flopping a bit with your views on this release (not like you). On another thread you called this release "pathetic" and not acceptable in 2017. And yet here you are accepting and even implying support for Warners approach.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #636 posted 04/29/17 8:05am

dance4me3121

Just heard the studio version of "electric intercourse"....And it's AWESOME!! biggrin
Reply #637 posted 04/29/17 8:06am

getxxxx

MiceElfAgin said:

bluegangsta said:

What? They change the speed of the playback BEFORE they convert it to PAL. Then, it's the correct speed.

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smile It's far from being as simple as you might think. Coverting 24fps to 25fps is a tricky task and is never without negative side-effects.

We need BluRay. I think Warners could afford the the extra cost in mastering.

not everyone has a BLU RAY player

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Reply #638 posted 04/29/17 8:07am

jaypotton

BartVanHemelen said:

 



bluegangsta said:



 



Are you aware of any justifacation for the lack of "two albums of unreleased material"?



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As I've said before: August 1983 show = "album of unreleased material". I've warned in the past that you shouldn't take record company promises literally.



And now you are starting to sound like a Warners apologist eek

The original press release promised two albums of unreleased AND two concerts.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #639 posted 04/29/17 8:07am

rdhull

getxxxx said:

MiceElfAgin said:

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smile It's far from being as simple as you might think. Coverting 24fps to 25fps is a tricky task and is never without negative side-effects.

We need BluRay. I think Warners could afford the the extra cost in mastering.

not everyone has a BLU RAY player

why not?

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #640 posted 04/29/17 8:23am

BartVanHemelen

jaypotton said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Exactly. And there couldn't be much more delay, because then they were competing with long-planned Autumn releases and the compilations etc. for the Christmas market etc. This needed to be out ASAP, simple as that. I wouldn't be surprised if there are other promo activities tied to this, including perhaps exclusive magazine features etc., and those were tied to a schedule as well. Delaying this more weeks or even months was likely not an option.

Bart you are flip flopping a bit with your views on this release (not like you). On another thread you called this release "pathetic" and not acceptable in 2017. And yet here you are accepting and even implying support for Warners approach.

.

Why is it that you lot continue to mistake explanations for support?

.

Do I think this release is underwhelming? Yes. But matter of fact, I don't blame Warners. I blame Prince. He's the one who failed to curate his back catalogue, he's the one who obstructed and sabotaged this release for two years, and he continues to be an impediment due to the fact that the vault appears to be a complete mess. Prince has sat on that tape of the August 1983 show for thirty years and appears to have done zero work on it -- bitch about that! Prince signed a deal for this PR Deluxe in May 2014 -- and then apparently did nothing except a remaster in 2015.

.

And these days Warners have to deal with warring factions in the estate, plus obviously a significant amount of practical (locating the correct tapes, for instance) and legal issues (the estate selling off rights to unreleased music to Universal in a shady deal).

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Reply #641 posted 04/29/17 8:25am

BartVanHemelen

jaypotton said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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As I've said before: August 1983 show = "album of unreleased material". I've warned in the past that you shouldn't take record company promises literally.

And now you are starting to sound like a Warners apologist eek The original press release promised two albums of unreleased AND two concerts.

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So what? I've pointed out at the time that taking such promises literally is a recipe for heartbreak. They aren't contracts.

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Reply #642 posted 04/29/17 8:28am

BartVanHemelen

getxxxx said:

MiceElfAgin said:

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smile It's far from being as simple as you might think. Coverting 24fps to 25fps is a tricky task and is never without negative side-effects.

We need BluRay. I think Warners could afford the the extra cost in mastering.

not everyone has a BLU RAY player

.

So? A decent one costs less than $100, and nobody's forcing you to buy one. So why are you forcing fans who do have one to settle for lesser quality (a Blu-ray doesn't just have a better picture, but also a broader color range)?

.

And Warners could easily throw in a DVD as well.

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It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
Reply #643 posted 04/29/17 8:31am

OnlyNDaUsa

BartVanHemelen said:

jaypotton said:

BartVanHemelen said: And now you are starting to sound like a Warners apologist eek The original press release promised two albums of unreleased AND two concerts.

.

So what? I've pointed out at the time that taking such promises literally is a recipe for heartbreak. They aren't contracts.



yup they are not! Even now they can cancel it all! and WB is not legally obligated to do so, they OWE an explanation as to what happened.

and any suggestion that the do not or that people are not justified in being an expressing disappointment over the changes is silly...but we all have the right to be silly.

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Reply #644 posted 04/29/17 8:33am

BartVanHemelen

Marrk said:

I'll be a crushing bore and point out 'Star Trek - The Next Generation' was filmed on video and was remastered to an amazing quality for Blu-Ray.

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No, it was filmed on film. And then edited on video. That's why for the BD they went back to those films, scanned them at a high resolution and re-edited the resulting digital video EXACTLY like the existing episodes, and did CGI that for the most part exatly matched the existing (cheesy) original one. This has been widely reported on. This has cost a fuckton of money and apparently it isn't making them enough money so they're not gonna do it for DS9 or Voyager.

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Reply #645 posted 04/29/17 9:06am

TrivialPursuit

Marrk said:

I'll be a crushing bore and point out 'Star Trek - The Next Generation' was filmed on video and was remastered to an amazing quality for Blu-Ray. Obviously money was spent to achieve those results. WB were never going to do that with a Prince concert.


Except it wasn't. It was on film. As Bart stated, they spent a lot of money to remaster those episodes, and greatly update the effects. They look great overall considering the time they were filmed, and how little effort they put into preserving them to the point of the remasters. But to think that was shot on video like Sesame Street is just not getting the facts right.

One could surmise that they were hoping for a windfall based on the Star Trek movie reboot to sell TNG blurays, but it didn't work out like that. Plus, they're just so fucking expensive.

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Reply #646 posted 04/29/17 9:12am

getxxxx

BartVanHemelen said:

getxxxx said:

not everyone has a BLU RAY player

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So? A decent one costs less than $100, and nobody's forcing you to buy one. So why are you forcing fans who do have one to settle for lesser quality (a Blu-ray doesn't just have a better picture, but also a broader color range)?

.

And Warners could easily throw in a DVD as well.

i dont know who you are talking to with that tone. like i said NOT EVERYONE has a Blu Ray Player thats a fan. some older fans may not even be interested in a Blu Ray. these elitist fans kill me thinking its their way or no way at all.

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Reply #647 posted 04/29/17 9:16am

Germanegro

BartVanHemelen said:

bluegangsta said:

Are you aware of any justifacation for the lack of "two albums of unreleased material"?

.

As I've said before: August 1983 show = "album of unreleased material". I've warned in the past that you shouldn't take record company promises literally.

Heh--you could also apply the same sentiment to Prince's past promises that you'd ritually slam? And--to beat you to your next statement--of course WB breaking their promises is that darn Prince's fault, too.

>

So you admit that this kind of marketing is just one of those selling games to build product anticipation, with less indignation toward the industry agent? lol

>

I'm hoping that they get the stuff out soon too, but whenever the stuff is actally readly to be sold is when it will be time for it to be sold. The situation isn't quite like a climate control agreement--although climate control of Prince's vault may be greater reason for the delay. All bootleg collectors should just be sure to buy it so that funds can eventually pipeline to the caretakers of Paisley Park, if U care.

>

And I'm out!

razz

Reply #648 posted 04/29/17 9:20am

linus4000

BartVanHemelen said:

jaypotton said:

BartVanHemelen said: Bart you are flip flopping a bit with your views on this release (not like you). On another thread you called this release "pathetic" and not acceptable in 2017. And yet here you are accepting and even implying support for Warners approach.

.

Why is it that you lot continue to mistake explanations for support?

.

Do I think this release is underwhelming? Yes. But matter of fact, I don't blame Warners. I blame Prince. He's the one who failed to curate his back catalogue, he's the one who obstructed and sabotaged this release for two years, and he continues to be an impediment due to the fact that the vault appears to be a complete mess. Prince has sat on that tape of the August 1983 show for thirty years and appears to have done zero work on it -- bitch about that! Prince signed a deal for this PR Deluxe in May 2014 -- and then apparently did nothing except a remaster in 2015.

.

And these days Warners have to deal with warring factions in the estate, plus obviously a significant amount of practical (locating the correct tapes, for instance) and legal issues (the estate selling off rights to unreleased music to Universal in a shady deal).

Maybe because Prince was more interested in creating new music than to work on old stuff for a Deluxe version....?

This release is more than we thought we would get before maybe two years ago....

Reply #649 posted 04/29/17 9:23am

MiceElfAgin

getxxxx said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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So? A decent one costs less than $100, and nobody's forcing you to buy one. So why are you forcing fans who do have one to settle for lesser quality (a Blu-ray doesn't just have a better picture, but also a broader color range)?

.

And Warners could easily throw in a DVD as well.

i dont know who you are talking to with that tone. like i said NOT EVERYONE has a Blu Ray Player thats a fan. some older fans may not even be interested in a Blu Ray. these elitist fans kill me thinking its their way or no way at all.

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Well, not everyone has a CD player either, so they shouldn't release stuff on CD?


BluRay has been around for a decade now and by now it's a widely adopted format. A cheap player costs about $60 new, maybe half for a second hand one. So I don't think it's an unrealistic expectation that a record collector (I think I can safely assume that most of us here are collectors) invests a bit in the current format.

We all want high quality releases – and they shouldn't be technically crippled by some stupid decision to stick to a legacy format.

Reply #650 posted 04/29/17 9:58am

NewpowerScarfo

BartVanHemelen said:

jaypotton said:

BartVanHemelen said: Bart you are flip flopping a bit with your views on this release (not like you). On another thread you called this release "pathetic" and not acceptable in 2017. And yet here you are accepting and even implying support for Warners approach.

.

Why is it that you lot continue to mistake explanations for support?

.

Do I think this release is underwhelming? Yes. But matter of fact, I don't blame Warners. I blame Prince. He's the one who failed to curate his back catalogue, he's the one who obstructed and sabotaged this release for two years, and he continues to be an impediment due to the fact that the vault appears to be a complete mess. Prince has sat on that tape of the August 1983 show for thirty years and appears to have done zero work on it -- bitch about that! Prince signed a deal for this PR Deluxe in May 2014 -- and then apparently did nothing except a remaster in 2015.

.

And these days Warners have to deal with warring factions in the estate, plus obviously a significant amount of practical (locating the correct tapes, for instance) and legal issues (the estate selling off rights to unreleased music to Universal in a shady deal).

This. So much truth wrapped up in one post.

[Edited 4/29/17 10:00am]

Reply #651 posted 04/29/17 10:22am

eyewishuheaven

Man... I don't recall who mentioned that the cover photo is rotated slightly, but now that I've seen it, I can't unsee it.

Apollonia's doorway normally is pretty much parallel with the photo's border, but on this release it sorta veers off toward it. A small thing, but that's gonna bug me... razz

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #652 posted 04/29/17 10:25am

MiceElfAgin

eyewishuheaven said:

Man... I don't recall who mentioned that the cover photo is rotated slightly, but now that I've seen it, I can't unsee it.

Apollonia's doorway normally is pretty much parallel with the photo's border, but on this release it sorta veers off toward it. A small thing, but that's gonna bug me... razz

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Yep. I've posted about it before. I really don't understand why they had to mess with the photo.

Reply #653 posted 04/29/17 10:30am

KingSausage

The artwork was on the floor in the vault for decades. It got warped beyond repair. lol
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Reply #654 posted 04/29/17 10:52am

luvsexy4all

hello...this is a WARNERBROS vault rlease ...NOT a paisley park vault release...wheres the 2nd dvd?????

Reply #655 posted 04/29/17 10:56am

MiceElfAgin

luvsexy4all said:

hello...this is a WARNERBROS vault rlease ...NOT a paisley park vault release...

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I give up...

Reply #656 posted 04/29/17 11:00am

TrivialPursuit

luvsexy4all said:

hello...this is a WARNERBROS vault rlease ...NOT a paisley park vault release...wheres the 2nd dvd?????


OMG seriously? WTF cares! Y'all fussin' over stupid shit.

Gheezus, let's go over this: This was part of the 2014 deal with Warner.
The PR part of the deal fell through because Prince didn't think WB wanted to pay him what he thought was fair for the release (he tweeted that).

However, part of that deal was Prince getting his masters back.

Prince oversaw the whole PR compilation. He signed off on it.
There is no second DVD. Things change. It's 1 DVD w/ Syracuse.

So yeah, it is a vault release - it's Prince's masters, that he agreed to remaster, and dig into and put this out. Period.

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Reply #657 posted 04/29/17 11:03am

AhPook

getxxxx said:

 



BartVanHemelen said:


 



getxxxx said:


 


 


not everyone has a BLU RAY player



.


So? A decent one costs less than $100, and nobody's forcing you to buy one. So why are you forcing fans who do have one to settle for lesser quality (a Blu-ray doesn't just have a better picture, but also a broader color range)?


.


And Warners could easily throw in a DVD as well.



 


i dont know who you are talking to with that tone. like i said NOT EVERYONE has a Blu Ray Player thats a fan. some older fans may not even be interested in a Blu Ray. these elitist fans kill me thinking its their way or no way at all.




Let's just release this shit on cassette. Not everyone has a compact disc player.
Reply #658 posted 04/29/17 11:25am

jaypotton

BartVanHemelen said:

 



jaypotton said:


BartVanHemelen said:

 


.


As I've said before: August 1983 show = "album of unreleased material". I've warned in the past that you shouldn't take record company promises literally.



And now you are starting to sound like a Warners apologist eek The original press release promised two albums of unreleased AND two concerts.

.


So what? I've pointed out at the time that taking such promises literally is a recipe for heartbreak. They aren't contracts.



And yet you never applied the same rationale to any action taken by Prince in the last 20 years or so. You ALWAYS bitched about pretty much every decision or change of mind Prince made or had. Double standards Bart. Double standards!
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #659 posted 04/29/17 11:30am

jaypotton

BartVanHemelen said:

 



jaypotton said:


BartVanHemelen said:

 


.


Exactly. And there couldn't be much more delay, because then they were competing with long-planned Autumn releases and the compilations etc. for the Christmas market etc. This needed to be out ASAP, simple as that. I wouldn't be surprised if there are other promo activities tied to this, including perhaps exclusive magazine features etc., and those were tied to a schedule as well. Delaying this more weeks or even months was likely not an option.



Bart you are flip flopping a bit with your views on this release (not like you). On another thread you called this release "pathetic" and not acceptable in 2017. And yet here you are accepting and even implying support for Warners approach.

.


Why is it that you lot continue to mistake explanations for support?


.


Do I think this release is underwhelming? Yes. But matter of fact, I don't blame Warners. I blame Prince. He's the one who failed to curate his back catalogue, he's the one who obstructed and sabotaged this release for two years, and he continues to be an impediment due to the fact that the vault appears to be a complete mess. Prince has sat on that tape of the August 1983 show for thirty years and appears to have done zero work on it -- bitch about that! Prince signed a deal for this PR Deluxe in May 2014 -- and then apparently did nothing except a remaster in 2015.


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And these days Warners have to deal with warring factions in the estate, plus obviously a significant amount of practical (locating the correct tapes, for instance) and legal issues (the estate selling off rights to unreleased music to Universal in a shady deal).



Mistaking explanations for support (by you) is easy because of the way in which you couch pretty much every post you make.

I have seen some inconsistency creeping in Bart. One thing I will say was that in the past you have at least been consistent in your utter contempt for anything Prince ever did post 1992. However, over the last few days I have seen you flip flopping sround and contradicting your own posts across different treads. What is the world coming to!!!!
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #660 posted 04/29/17 11:52am

jungleluv

No Apollonia 6, No The Time, no Dez.................................so I ain't gonna bother buying it

Reply #661 posted 04/29/17 12:21pm

MD431Madcat

WARNING---> IGNORANT NEWBIE ALERT!!!! confused

pld71 said:

MD431Madcat said:

This is some LAME NEWBIE fucking BULLSHIT!!!!

songs i already own and a concert that i've had on vhs since the mid 80's...

confused

Already own the concert on boot DVD. Meh. [Edited 4/28/17 17:06pm]

Reply #662 posted 04/29/17 12:38pm

MD431Madcat

4 all the hype it better be damn good! the vhs copy was really difficult to watch at times even when it first came out.. i remember thinking the dark bits were too dark and the red bits were too red...

i hope this looks MUCH BETTER!

bluegangsta said:

pld71 said:

MD431Madcat said: Already own the concert on boot DVD. Meh.

Okay, cool. Enjoy your sixth generation VHS rip with mono sound from the early 80s then.

Reply #663 posted 04/29/17 12:44pm

jjam

Sifi, do you know if Warners have located a proper master of Moonbeam Levels?
Reply #664 posted 04/29/17 12:50pm

2freaky4church1

It's more uptempo? wow. His falsetto is crazed. My man is having mass fun. A lot different from the live version. The synth is really weird. This is strange Prince at his best. My man is wacked out on this track. whewhoo. How about that ending.

DJ is da man
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Reply #665 posted 04/29/17 12:55pm

JudasLChrist

AhPook said:

getxxxx said:

i dont know who you are talking to with that tone. like i said NOT EVERYONE has a Blu Ray Player thats a fan. some older fans may not even be interested in a Blu Ray. these elitist fans kill me thinking its their way or no way at all.

Let's just release this shit on cassette. Not everyone has a compact disc player.

Cassettes are really hot right now, actually. That would be awesome.

Reply #666 posted 04/29/17 1:04pm

jjam

I won't be happy until this shit is pressed up onto a series of shellac 78 rpm discs.
Reply #667 posted 04/29/17 1:51pm

dovestardust

thought i might mention that i went to the revolution show last night in nyc they played a new hardrock version of roadhouse garden . this might be the version thats on the new album as opposed to the one thats been in circulation for ages

Reply #668 posted 04/29/17 2:06pm

SchlomoThaHomo

dovestardust said:

thought i might mention that i went to the revolution show last night in nyc they played a new hardrock version of roadhouse garden . this might be the version thats on the new album as opposed to the one thats been in circulation for ages 



Cool! They just did the normal one when I saw them Monday.
"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
Reply #669 posted 04/29/17 2:12pm

FunkOnTheOne

BartVanHemelen said:

 



jaypotton said:


jaypotton said:
True. He even swore on Funknroll so I agree there was a relaxing of the JW side.


Actually Laura thought about this some more and still strongly believe THIS set is not what Prince envisaged (swearing point aside).

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What Prince envisaged was him having his cake and eating it as well. 


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I was strongly under the impression he said Another Mother Further.
Reply #670 posted 04/29/17 2:12pm

luv4u

Moderator

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Reply #671 posted 04/29/17 2:39pm

love2thenines2003

dovestardust said:

thought i might mention that i went to the revolution show last night in nyc they played a new hardrock version of roadhouse garden . this might be the version thats on the new album as opposed to the one thats been in circulation for ages 



Are u talking about a studio version played over The P.A or a live version played by the band?
Reply #672 posted 04/29/17 3:05pm

bonatoc

jjam said:

Sifi, do you know if Warners have located a proper master of Moonbeam Levels?


The good master of MB began circulating ca. october 2014, if I remember well.
Astounding dynamics. Like EI.

Africa, Cap'n Crunch, Norma Jean, Sex and Cheerio's
Play my record double speed, feel the climax fit 4 a king
Reply #673 posted 04/29/17 3:08pm

bonatoc

love2thenines2003 said:

dovestardust said:

thought i might mention that i went to the revolution show last night in nyc they played a new hardrock version of roadhouse garden . this might be the version thats on the new album as opposed to the one thats been in circulation for ages

Are u talking about a studio version played over The P.A or a live version played by the band?


Nope, there's another one, it's pretty laid back.
I think it's Roadhouse Garden only, not mixed with Our Destiny.
It's pretty different from the versions you mention.

Africa, Cap'n Crunch, Norma Jean, Sex and Cheerio's
Play my record double speed, feel the climax fit 4 a king
Reply #674 posted 04/29/17 3:08pm

bonatoc

dance4me3121 said:

Just heard the studio version of "electric intercourse"....And it's AWESOME!! biggrin

yes

Africa, Cap'n Crunch, Norma Jean, Sex and Cheerio's
Play my record double speed, feel the climax fit 4 a king
Reply #675 posted 04/29/17 3:35pm

NewpowerScarfo

Ok.....I can see my previous comment outright vanished. Not snipped but outright deleted. Anyone care 2 xplain?

Reply #676 posted 04/29/17 4:03pm

purplethunder3121

NewpowerScarfo said:

Ok.....I can see my previous comment outright vanished. Not snipped but outright deleted. Anyone care 2 xplain?

Been happening to me, too... hmm confuse

Find strength in that which remains...
Reply #677 posted 04/29/17 4:45pm

luvgirl

Militant said:

When I had lunch with Manuela in February, she confirmed that there were occasions when Prince would ask for a reel to be brought up to the studio from the vault, and it would be damaged beyond repair cry  


 


And that, of course, was over 10 years ago. 



 




eek wow!!! cry
I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
Reply #678 posted 04/29/17 5:11pm

TwiliteKid

jungleluv said:

No Apollonia 6, No The Time, no Dez.....so I ain't gonna bother buying it



I don't know why some of you think that stuff belongs on this set, but it was never going to happen.
Reply #679 posted 04/29/17 5:23pm

jjam

bonatoc said:

 



jjam said:


Sifi, do you know if Warners have located a proper master of Moonbeam Levels?


The good master of MB began circulating ca. october 2014, if I remember well.
Astounding dynamics. Like EI.


That version's about two generations away from a master. EI sounds better.
Reply #680 posted 04/29/17 5:29pm

OnlyNDaUsa

NewpowerScarfo said:

Ok.....I can see my previous comment outright vanished. Not snipped but outright deleted. Anyone care 2 xplain?



1) are you sure it was posted in this topic? Might it be in another one?



2) Mods seem to have the option to remove posts with or without any sign they where ever there.

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #681 posted 04/29/17 5:40pm

darkroman

I've read on another forum that the First Avenue concert (the one used to record PR), is being saved for another release later this year as a CD / DVD set.

.

I have NO evidence of this, but this is exactly what I was thinking and hoping.

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Fingers crossed!!!

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lol lol lol lol

Reply #682 posted 04/29/17 5:49pm

AndyForbes

I'm bummed about no songs from The Time, Apolonia and Dez Dickerson. Or even the instrumental version of "Possessed". It would have been fun to make a playlist of the songs in order from the film.

Another disappointment is lack of including the First Ave video of the show Purple Rain music premiered live in public.

There's absolutely no point in those EIGHT edit versions. Ugh!
[Edited 4/29/17 17:56pm]
Reply #683 posted 04/29/17 6:09pm

AndyForbes

E319 said:

 



NewpowerScarfo said:


 



OnlyNDaUsa said:


 


 


 


oh wow good call



^_^



 


 


There are some similarities but they are not the same beat. In the video below, the music you guys are referring to starts at about 0:25.


 




I don't hear it. It's totally different to me.
Reply #684 posted 04/29/17 7:02pm

NewpowerScarfo

OnlyNDaUsa said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

Ok.....I can see my previous comment outright vanished. Not snipped but outright deleted. Anyone care 2 xplain?



1) are you sure it was posted in this topic? Might it be in another one?



2) Mods seem to have the option to remove posts with or without any sign they where ever there.

It was in this one on page 20. It was nothing serious, it was just me telling sifi sorry I doubted him (or her). Again nothing serious, I just thought it was strange. smile

[Edited 4/29/17 19:04pm]

Reply #685 posted 04/29/17 7:07pm

NewpowerScarfo

purplethunder3121 said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

Ok.....I can see my previous comment outright vanished. Not snipped but outright deleted. Anyone care 2 xplain?

Been happening to me, too... hmm confuse

Hmmmm, it's an mystery on top an enigma. smile

Reply #686 posted 04/29/17 7:38pm

Crump

I just see this on facebook eek


"Apparently WB has been working on cleaning up Prince's legendary 1983 First Ave show...unfortunately it won't be ready for the "Purple Rain Deluxe Expanded Edition" as hinted earlier this year, but I presume it will still see a proper release...here's a sample of the work in progress..."

https://www.facebook.com/...187252445/

Reply #687 posted 04/29/17 7:51pm

OnlyNDaUsa

I hope so.
"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #688 posted 04/29/17 9:17pm

rdhull

Crump said:

I just see this on facebook eek


"Apparently WB has been working on cleaning up Prince's legendary 1983 First Ave show...unfortunately it won't be ready for the "Purple Rain Deluxe Expanded Edition" as hinted earlier this year, but I presume it will still see a proper release...here's a sample of the work in progress..."

https://www.facebook.com/...187252445/

Yup...it's comin' y'all!! not on this deluxe release but it will come and I will buy it for whatever they ask.

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #689 posted 04/29/17 9:25pm

mbdtyler

bonatoc said:

love2thenines2003 said:

dovestardust said: Are u talking about a studio version played over The P.A or a live version played by the band?


Nope, there's another one, it's pretty laid back.
I think it's Roadhouse Garden only, not mixed with Our Destiny.
It's pretty different from the versions you mention.

The version they're playing on this tour sounds SO much better than both the studio demo that leaked and the live version from 84.

Reply #690 posted 04/30/17 12:15am

love2thenines2003

@Sifi

I'd like 2 know.....Fathers song on PR Deluxe will be a full instrumental version or with vocals?

Thanx in advance
Reply #691 posted 04/30/17 1:44am

bluegangsta

love2thenines2003 said:

@Sifi I'd like 2 know.....Fathers song on PR Deluxe will be a full instrumental version or with vocals? Thanx in advance

You can't wait 2 months and be surprised wither way?

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #692 posted 04/30/17 1:58am

OperatingThetan

EI is genius. Pure, classic Prince. If the vault holds more gems like this we're in for quite a ride.

Purple Rain Deluxe might not contain a few cuts fans were looking for, but what it does feature is promising and at a good price overall.
Reply #693 posted 04/30/17 2:26am

BartVanHemelen

TrivialPursuit said:

One could surmise that they were hoping for a windfall based on the Star Trek movie reboot to sell TNG blurays, but it didn't work out like that. Plus, they're just so fucking expensive.

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New HD also means new (premium) licenses to be sold to various services. IIRC they did an exclusive at the start.

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But the sales of the BDs has been disappointing, IMHO because:

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a) they were waaaaay too expensive compared to other sets (Paramount always overprices these things; I recall TNG and DS9 etc being freakishly expensive on DVD while other shows were a fraction of the price despite offering much more extras, e.g. commentary tracks and bonus video etc.).

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b) There were numerous technical blunders (bad audio etc.) which Paramount refused to acknowledge and correct for a looong time. (Paramount also fucked up the European Blu-ray release of Deadwood, even though all they needed to do was use the HBO release and change the region setting. Instead they fucked up the sound and even the menu, and no extras were available.)

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It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
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Reply #694 posted 04/30/17 2:29am

BartVanHemelen

linus4000 said:

Maybe because Prince was more interested in creating new music than to work on old stuff for a Deluxe version....?

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You lot always have some BS excuse. Prince can never fail.

.

This release is more than we thought we would get before maybe two years ago....

.

Nonsense. The 2014 reporting already mentioned unreleased music, and the inclusion of a concert video (i.e. Syracuse) in a box set was basically a given.

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It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
Reply #695 posted 04/30/17 2:34am

BartVanHemelen

jaypotton said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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So what? I've pointed out at the time that taking such promises literally is a recipe for heartbreak. They aren't contracts.

And yet you never applied the same rationale to any action taken by Prince in the last 20 years or so. You ALWAYS bitched about pretty much every decision or change of mind Prince made or had. Double standards Bart. Double standards!

.

I just gotta love how you lot continue to praise Prince as "doing his own thing", and whenever he fucks up it's "big companies make the same mistakes". Prince had full control, Warners don't, simple as that. Prince posted his brainfarts in public and then later pretended he never said anything (even erasing posts from the newsfeeds of his websites or denying a press release he put out as lies); Warners announced plans and then encountered far more problems than they'd expected. Yeah, I don't hold them to the same standards, because that's simply not fair.

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This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
Reply #696 posted 04/30/17 3:22am

minneapolisgenius

Sifi unfortunately cannot reply to questions since he has been blocked now.
"I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven
Reply #697 posted 04/30/17 4:12am

Phishanga

minneapolisgenius said:

Sifi unfortunately cannot reply to questions since he has been blocked now.

Why the fuck? neutral

Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
Reply #698 posted 04/30/17 4:19am

OnlyNDaUsa

minneapolisgenius said:

Sifi unfortunately cannot reply to questions since he has been blocked now.



Could be it was a self closure
"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #699 posted 04/30/17 5:15am

love2thenines2003

minneapolisgenius said:

Sifi unfortunately cannot reply to questions since he has been blocked now.

.....it's a joke ??? WHY?? neutral

@Militan > can u enlighten us ??

thanx

[Edited 4/30/17 5:22am]

Reply #700 posted 04/30/17 5:46am

jaypotton

BartVanHemelen said:

 



jaypotton said:


BartVanHemelen said:

 


.


So what? I've pointed out at the time that taking such promises literally is a recipe for heartbreak. They aren't contracts.



And yet you never applied the same rationale to any action taken by Prince in the last 20 years or so. You ALWAYS bitched about pretty much every decision or change of mind Prince made or had. Double standards Bart. Double standards!

.


I just gotta love how you lot continue to praise Prince as "doing his own thing", and whenever he fucks up it's "big companies make the same mistakes". Prince had full control, Warners don't, simple as that. Prince posted his brainfarts in public and then later pretended he never said anything (even erasing posts from the newsfeeds of his websites or denying a press release he put out as lies); Warners announced plans and then encountered far more problems than they'd expected. Yeah, I don't hold them to the same standards, because that's simply not fair.



"You lot" Hmmm there you go lumping me in with others again Bart. For 20 years I have both praised and criticised Prince. I have always been realistic and fair in my critique of what Prince (or in fact anyone) has done.

If Prince had done a press release stating "2 albums or unreleased material and 2 concert DVDs/films" and then when the release came it was less than that YOU would have gone all Rambo on him.but because Warners have done that you are defending them.

I have been clear all along that I think this is not a bad release. The issue is the misinformation setting false expectations AND no official statement from Warners saying why they had to pull back from their original plans. Simple straightforward good PR. Not rocket science.

You have double standard Bart and even after his death you still cannot help but do all you can to attack everything Prince did. For over 20 years he has been your nemesis and target of your ire and now he has gone you still cannot let that go!

Face facts. YOU Have no idea (and nor do any of us) what EXACTLY transpired between Prince and Warners in relation to the Purple Rain remaster and why it was delayed and why it has ended up being the track list that it is. NONE OF US KNOW!
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #701 posted 04/30/17 5:57am

linus4000

BartVanHemelen said:

linus4000 said:

Maybe because Prince was more interested in creating new music than to work on old stuff for a Deluxe version....?

.

You lot always have some BS excuse. Prince can never fail.

.

This release is more than we thought we would get before maybe two years ago....

.

Nonsense. The 2014 reporting already mentioned unreleased music, and the inclusion of a concert video (i.e. Syracuse) in a box set was basically a given.

2014 press release did not say anything specific at all...

"Forthcoming projects are in the works, but first up is a digitally remastered deluxe edition of the classic Purple Rain, which celebrates its 30th anniversary this summer.

The press release promises "long-awaited, previously unheard music," but it is unclear what that means."

And yes, Bart....Instead of complaining all the time like you, Prince liked to record new music all the time...

Reply #702 posted 04/30/17 6:06am

jaypotton

BartVanHemelen said:

the inclusion of a concert video (i.e. Syracuse) in a box set was basically a given.



So when I speculate about a potential realistic scenario that there will be further Purple Rain releases in the future based on standard industry practice to repackage and resell existing works, you accuse me of baseless speculation.

But when YOU say the inclusion of Syracuse was a given, which is clearly speculation on your part, that is ok?

YOU have no idea if Syracuse was intended to be included as of the deal in 2014. I would agree it was a highly likely scenario though. So perhaps you can concede that despite once again attacking someone (in this case me) for speculating, that I too was putting forward something that is a highly likely scenario?
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #703 posted 04/30/17 6:19am

dodger

linus4000 said:

 



BartVanHemelen said:


 



linus4000 said:


 


Maybe because Prince was more interested in creating new music than to work on old stuff for a Deluxe version....? 



.


You lot always have some BS excuse. Prince can never fail.


.



This release is more than we thought we would get before maybe two years ago....


 


 


 



.


Nonsense. The 2014 reporting already mentioned unreleased music, and the inclusion of a concert video (i.e. Syracuse) in a box set was basically a given.



 


2014 press release did not say anything specific at all...


"Forthcoming projects are in the works, but first up is a digitally remastered deluxe edition of the classic Purple Rain, which celebrates its 30th anniversary this summer.


The press release promises "long-awaited, previously unheard music," but it is unclear what that means."


 


And yes, Bart....Instead of complaining all the time like you, Prince liked to record new music all the time...


 


 



Exactly, unreleased music and concert video (i.e. Syracuse) was never mentioned.
You lot speculating and making (un)educated guesses again
Reply #704 posted 04/30/17 6:30am

luv4u

Moderator

moderator

love2thenines2003 said:

minneapolisgenius said:

Sifi unfortunately cannot reply to questions since he has been blocked now.

.....it's a joke ??? WHY?? neutral

@Militan > can u enlighten us ??

thanx

[Edited 4/30/17 5:22am]


[Posting of links to download any music or track(s) is illegal and against site rules for legal reasons. Anyone found violating the rules in any way shape or form will be dealt with accordingly - luv4u]


yeahthat

Guess folks want the org in legal hot water or shut down lol

Let's move on folks........................

Edmonton, AB - canada

Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
Reply #705 posted 04/30/17 6:53am

eyewishuheaven

luv4u said:

love2thenines2003 said:

.....it's a joke ??? WHY?? neutral

@Militan > can u enlighten us ??

thanx

[Edited 4/30/17 5:22am]


[Posting of links to download any music or track(s) is illegal and against site rules for legal reasons. Anyone found violating the rules in any way shape or form will be dealt with accordingly - luv4u]


yeahthat

Guess folks want the org in legal hot water or shut down lol

Let's move on folks........................


Bummer. I'd got the sense that SiFi had been authorized to share that clip as a sign of goodwill from WB...

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #706 posted 04/30/17 6:58am

love2thenines2003

eyewishuheaven said:

luv4u said:


[Posting of links to download any music or track(s) is illegal and against site rules for legal reasons. Anyone found violating the rules in any way shape or form will be dealt with accordingly - luv4u]


yeahthat

Guess folks want the org in legal hot water or shut down lol

Let's move on folks........................


Bummer. I'd got the sense that SiFi had been authorized to share that clip as a sign of goodwill from WB...

This is what i thought....seriously...we have a lot of Orgers here who are talking for nothing...bring no trusty news ( i'm this kind of orger too sometimes) ...and here we have some1 who brings us interresting news...banned in one second....SERIOUSLY 2 times....Flexibility of Mind is a good thing ....this thing piss me off !

[Edited 4/30/17 6:59am]

Reply #707 posted 04/30/17 7:31am

FunkOnTheOne

love2thenines2003 said:

eyewishuheaven said:


Bummer. I'd got the sense that SiFi had been authorized to share that clip as a sign of goodwill from WB...

This is what i thought....seriously...we have a lot of Orgers here who are talking for nothing...bring no trusty news ( i'm this kind of orger too sometimes) ...and here we have some1 who brings us interresting news...banned in one second....SERIOUSLY 2 times....Flexibility of Mind is a good thing ....this thing piss me off !

[Edited 4/30/17 6:59am]

It is interesting how different the world of the Prince forum and Facebook are now. Links to anything realeased are made avilable on Facebook within minutes and continue to be shared but obviously on forums like this they are not.

Is it possible to explain why Youtube are immune from these issues by the Safe Harbour laws, but Prince.org are not? It's not a criticism of the Org, I just assume that better lawyers buy you more rights.

Reply #708 posted 04/30/17 7:42am

luv4u

Moderator

moderator

eyewishuheaven said:

luv4u said:


[Posting of links to download any music or track(s) is illegal and against site rules for legal reasons. Anyone found violating the rules in any way shape or form will be dealt with accordingly - luv4u]


yeahthat

Guess folks want the org in legal hot water or shut down lol

Let's move on folks........................


Bummer. I'd got the sense that SiFi had been authorized to share that clip as a sign of goodwill from WB...


Nope. No 'official' permission from WB

Edmonton, AB - canada

Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
Reply #709 posted 04/30/17 7:46am

purplethunder3121

FB gets shut down by the web sheriff, too.

Find strength in that which remains...
Reply #710 posted 04/30/17 7:57am

rogifan

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#PrinceForever 💜
Reply #711 posted 04/30/17 7:57am

leecaldon

getxxxx said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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So? A decent one costs less than $100, and nobody's forcing you to buy one. So why are you forcing fans who do have one to settle for lesser quality (a Blu-ray doesn't just have a better picture, but also a broader color range)?

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And Warners could easily throw in a DVD as well.

i dont know who you are talking to with that tone. like i said NOT EVERYONE has a Blu Ray Player thats a fan. some older fans may not even be interested in a Blu Ray. these elitist fans kill me thinking its their way or no way at all.

I think the point is everyone CAN have a blu ray player, and not at any great cost. It's currently the best widely available format in the physical market.

Reply #712 posted 04/30/17 7:59am

leecaldon

jaypotton said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Why is it that you lot continue to mistake explanations for support?

.

Do I think this release is underwhelming? Yes. But matter of fact, I don't blame Warners. I blame Prince. He's the one who failed to curate his back catalogue, he's the one who obstructed and sabotaged this release for two years, and he continues to be an impediment due to the fact that the vault appears to be a complete mess. Prince has sat on that tape of the August 1983 show for thirty years and appears to have done zero work on it -- bitch about that! Prince signed a deal for this PR Deluxe in May 2014 -- and then apparently did nothing except a remaster in 2015.

.

And these days Warners have to deal with warring factions in the estate, plus obviously a significant amount of practical (locating the correct tapes, for instance) and legal issues (the estate selling off rights to unreleased music to Universal in a shady deal).

Mistaking explanations for support (by you) is easy because of the way in which you couch pretty much every post you make. I have seen some inconsistency creeping in Bart. One thing I will say was that in the past you have at least been consistent in your utter contempt for anything Prince ever did post 1992. However, over the last few days I have seen you flip flopping sround and contradicting your own posts across different treads. What is the world coming to!!!!

I thought Bart's issue was with post-95 Prince?

Reply #713 posted 04/30/17 8:40am

FunkOnTheOne

purplethunder3121 said:

FB gets shut down by the web sheriff, too.

It does but firstly, Facebook themselves don't face action and secondly it's simply up 3 seconds later in 15 different groups.

Reply #714 posted 04/30/17 8:57am

IstenSzek

FunkOnTheOne said:

purplethunder3121 said:

FB gets shut down by the web sheriff, too.

It does but firstly, Facebook themselves don't face action and secondly it's simply up 3 seconds later in 15 different groups.


yes, but the org can't run/hide/diffuse like that. and since this is the place where a lot
of people get their initial information and the one place that everyone seems to monitor
from the prince camp to warners, to at least some degree, it's only logical that they are
also coming down hard on the org if actual files or links to files get posted here.

and since this is the only real place we can all discuss prince and his music and all other
things, it's probably a good thing that the mods are relentless because otherwise they
might have shut this place down for good already.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #715 posted 04/30/17 9:08am

KingSausage

Facebook and YouTube have shit-tons of cash and lawyers. The Org does not.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #716 posted 04/30/17 9:10am

OnlyNDaUsa

luv4u said:

eyewishuheaven said:


Bummer. I'd got the sense that SiFi had been authorized to share that clip as a sign of goodwill from WB...


Nope. No 'official' permission from WB

and the fact is that the MODs do not have the time and can not be expected to determine who is and who is not authorized to post stuff that falls under IP protections.

I do hope the 'ban' is a temp one but if not it is what it is. and i respect the mods decisions and rulings.

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #717 posted 04/30/17 9:28am

OnlyNDaUsa

WB and PP. both need to seek out some of the big collectors and fans and get their input as to what needs to be put out. As far as we all know many...Most.. shows were recorded some with video most with soundboard audio. As well as outtakes and alt versions circulating or just assumed to exist.

but they need to reach out...

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #718 posted 04/30/17 9:42am

rdhull

SNIP - OF4S

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #719 posted 04/30/17 10:01am

love2thenines2003

rdhull said:SNIP - OF4S


Please message 4 the mods.....be indulgent with Sifi this time .....bring back 2 his memory the rules about the audio video Unauthorised posted things....please Bring scifi back again...one more chance!?
Reply #720 posted 04/30/17 10:08am

Dilan

rdhull said:

SNIP - OF4S

SNIP

I'm feeling a bit fammy™
Reply #721 posted 04/30/17 10:23am

Marrk

BartVanHemelen said:

Marrk said:

I'll be a crushing bore and point out 'Star Trek - The Next Generation' was filmed on video and was remastered to an amazing quality for Blu-Ray.

.

No, it was filmed on film. And then edited on video. That's why for the BD they went back to those films, scanned them at a high resolution and re-edited the resulting digital video EXACTLY like the existing episodes, and did CGI that for the most part exatly matched the existing (cheesy) original one. This has been widely reported on. This has cost a fuckton of money and apparently it isn't making them enough money so they're not gonna do it for DS9 or Voyager.

Well that news upsets me. confused

Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
Reply #722 posted 04/30/17 10:27am

Romeoblu

Dilan said:

 



rdhull said:


SNIP -OF4S.



 


SNIP




SNIP - OF4S
Reply #723 posted 04/30/17 10:40am

KingSausage

It's always possible that someone will argue with mods instead of agreeing to not make further mistakes. In which case a ban could be appropriate. I'm not saying that's what happened here. But there might be stuff we don't know.

Regardless, I'd like to see SiFi back because he or she has GREAT inside information.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #724 posted 04/30/17 10:43am

NewpowerScarfo

SNIP - OF4S

Reply #725 posted 04/30/17 10:45am

Dilan

I've noticed that they have started to PM/publicly post disinfo propaganda to accept the Violet Reality regime because more people are waking up to whats happening behind the scenes at the org. Don't fall for it

I'm feeling a bit fammy™
Reply #726 posted 04/30/17 10:59am

love2thenines2003

KingSausage said:

It's always possible that someone will argue with mods instead of agreeing to not make further mistakes. In which case a ban could be appropriate. I'm not saying that's what happened here. But there might be stuff we don't know.

Regardless, I'd like to see SiFi back because he or she has GREAT inside information.

EXACT cool
Reply #727 posted 04/30/17 11:08am

rdhull

KingSausage said:

It's always possible that someone will argue with mods instead of agreeing to not make further mistakes. In which case a ban could be appropriate. I'm not saying that's what happened here. But there might be stuff we don't know. Regardless, I'd like to see SiFi back because he or she has GREAT inside information.

I just want them back even if they dont give any further info. We have been gien enough from Mil and Sci to be satisfied. No need to prod them for anymoe tidbits imho. Im just thinking dude or dudette wasnt sure of what they were doing and now probabaly are.

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #728 posted 04/30/17 11:23am

OnlyNDaUsa

when mods take action and issue a ban or time out or delete a post or whatever... it is best to not debate it or take action or appeal on their behalf as this is not the place to do that... I would think that such posts would be frowned upon.

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #729 posted 04/30/17 11:26am

FunkOnTheOne

IstenSzek said:

FunkOnTheOne said:

It does but firstly, Facebook themselves don't face action and secondly it's simply up 3 seconds later in 15 different groups.


yes, but the org can't run/hide/diffuse like that. and since this is the place where a lot
of people get their initial information and the one place that everyone seems to monitor
from the prince camp to warners, to at least some degree, it's only logical that they are
also coming down hard on the org if actual files or links to files get posted here.

and since this is the only real place we can all discuss prince and his music and all other
things, it's probably a good thing that the mods are relentless because otherwise they
might have shut this place down for good already.

I take your point, although whilst this is a great place to discuss Prince relate news it is pretty small comnpared to the facebook groups which often have over 40-50,000 members.

It just seems a sad world where you can have as much justice as you can afford. Youtube have put up billions of hours of material which they probably don't have permission to do. The sheer voloume of Prince material is huge. Don't get me wrong, it's great that people can listen to Prince's work but perhapd the estate need to have some clear policy otherwise it just appears random as to what they choose to allow.

Reply #730 posted 04/30/17 11:27am

FunkOnTheOne

Dilan said:

rdhull said:

Why not just have the post deleted (which it was) and bring scifi back? Nobody said boo when the WB PR tracklist was posted by Mil.

That's because Prince.org original government has been infiltrated by the Violet Reality we are the cattle and the mods are above the rules

As I understand it WB asked Militant to remove his facebook post regarding this release. I might be wrong.

Reply #731 posted 04/30/17 11:43am

Dilan

FunkOnTheOne said:

Dilan said:

That's because Prince.org original government has been infiltrated by the Violet Reality we are the cattle and the mods are above the rules

As I understand it WB asked Militant to remove his facebook post regarding this release. I might be wrong.

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves" Vladimir Lenin

I'm feeling a bit fammy™
Reply #732 posted 04/30/17 11:58am

JudasLChrist

eyewishuheaven said:

luv4u said:


[Posting of links to download any music or track(s) is illegal and against site rules for legal reasons. Anyone found violating the rules in any way shape or form will be dealt with accordingly - luv4u]


yeahthat

Guess folks want the org in legal hot water or shut down lol

Let's move on folks........................


Bummer. I'd got the sense that SiFi had been authorized to share that clip as a sign of goodwill from WB...


That seemed obvious. I thought Sifi was a WB plant. I bet Warners had a meeting about slipping that video snippet to the Org. The best thing would have been to have snipped his/her link and given a warning. Sifi was our only legitimate lifeline to info about what was actually happening on the PR reissue.

Reply #733 posted 04/30/17 12:01pm

OnlyNDaUsa

FunkOnTheOne said:

Dilan said:

That's because Prince.org original government has been infiltrated by the Violet Reality we are the cattle and the mods are above the rules

As I understand it WB asked Militant to remove his facebook post regarding this release. I might be wrong.

yeah WB had it removed... over some half-baked claim of copyright violation based on there being some Prince artwork on the original image. A list of songs can not itself be copyrighted... so they played a little dirty. So he reposted it without the image.

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #734 posted 04/30/17 12:13pm

MD431Madcat

I cant believe that this meaningless WB quick money grab actually means so much to so many of you... neutral

Reply #735 posted 04/30/17 12:22pm

FunkOnTheOne

I never thought I'd ever say this but I actually agree with something Bart said ages ago that if the project is actually a Beautiful object ie an nice well presented physical object it will be great. The filed will be all over Facebook in under 10 Minutes for free but the object might be a nice thing to own.
Reply #736 posted 04/30/17 12:29pm

TheEnglishGent

MD431Madcat said:

I cant believe that this meaningless WB quick money grab actually means so much to so many of you... neutral

A remastered PR and a nice disc of vault stuff for £11.99, they can keep grabbing my money all day long if they keep putting out stuff like this at this price point.

RIP sad
Reply #737 posted 04/30/17 12:56pm

IstenSzek

TheEnglishGent said:

MD431Madcat said:

I cant believe that this meaningless WB quick money grab actually means so much to so many of you... neutral

A remastered PR and a nice disc of vault stuff for £11.99, they can keep grabbing my money all day long if they keep putting out stuff like this at this price point.


yeahthat

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #738 posted 04/30/17 1:38pm

KingSausage

TheEnglishGent said:

 



MD431Madcat said:


I cant believe that this meaningless WB quick money grab actually means so much to so many of you...  neutral


 



A remastered PR and a nice disc of vault stuff for £11.99, they can keep grabbing my money all day long if they keep putting out stuff like this at this price point.




Mine too. Shit, I'll allocate a portion of my future paychecks' direct deposit to WB.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #739 posted 04/30/17 2:17pm

Crump

Okayplayer are reporting this set has a 32 minute I Would Die 4 U

I assume they are mistaken?

Reply #740 posted 04/30/17 2:24pm

JudasLChrist

Crump said:

Okayplayer are reporting this set has a 32 minute I Would Die 4 U

I assume they are mistaken?


Probably not, I have one wich is 30:40. It's the unmixed, uncut version of the version that appeared on the 12-inch with Another Loenly Christmas on the back.

Reply #741 posted 04/30/17 2:29pm

ForceofNature

MD431Madcat said:

I cant believe that this meaningless WB quick money grab actually means so much to so many of you... neutral

I suppose anything you personally don't like is a money grab? If you can't see how people would be happy about it, then might as well stop complaining over and over again online about it

[Edited 4/30/17 14:32pm]

Reply #742 posted 04/30/17 2:36pm

SoulAlive

MD431Madcat said:

I cant believe that this meaningless WB quick money grab actually means so much to so many of you... neutral

With everything that this set includes,they can take my money lol I'll gladly give it to them

Reply #743 posted 04/30/17 3:18pm

EddieC

FunkOnTheOne said:

love2thenines2003 said:

This is what i thought....seriously...we have a lot of Orgers here who are talking for nothing...bring no trusty news ( i'm this kind of orger too sometimes) ...and here we have some1 who brings us interresting news...banned in one second....SERIOUSLY 2 times....Flexibility of Mind is a good thing ....this thing piss me off !

[Edited 4/30/17 6:59am]

It is interesting how different the world of the Prince forum and Facebook are now. Links to anything realeased are made avilable on Facebook within minutes and continue to be shared but obviously on forums like this they are not.

Is it possible to explain why Youtube are immune from these issues by the Safe Harbour laws, but Prince.org are not? It's not a criticism of the Org, I just assume that better lawyers buy you more rights.

Here's the thing (I assume, not being a mod)--but when people get dinged on Facebook and Youtube for copyright, it's individual account holders that get gotten, and that person can make the choice to risk their own account. But a post here puts the entire forum at risk, and, quite honestly, we as individuals don't have the right to make the choice to risk things for everyone. I'm not sure why this is so confusing to everyone that somebody gets all up in arms about it every month or two, but it's really not that complicated. Sure, I'd like it if Prince/Prince's estate/Prince's record company had a different approach to the issue, but unless they decide officially that they do, we need to be sensible and keep the forum safe.

Reply #744 posted 04/30/17 4:20pm

love2thenines2003

It seems that the version of 17 days 12inch does exist....saw this on Twitter ...picture from Queslove's Vault it seems. ....hope a Christmas's box of PR superdeluxe with this kind of goodies ?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-gWBcfV0AA-7zq.jpg
Reply #745 posted 04/30/17 4:22pm

bluegangsta

love2thenines2003 said:

It seems that the version of 17 days 12inch does exist....saw this on Twitter ...picture from Queslove's Vault it seems. ....hope a Christmas's box of PR superdeluxe with this kind of goodies ? https://pbs.twimg.com/med...AA-7zq.jpg

And this is yet another example of why Warners/ Estate should be woking with fans. It wouldn't s

surprise me if we have more than what they do.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #746 posted 04/30/17 4:27pm

rdhull

love2thenines2003 said:

It seems that the version of 17 days 12inch does exist....saw this on Twitter ...picture from Queslove's Vault it seems. ....hope a Christmas's box of PR superdeluxe with this kind of goodies ? https://pbs.twimg.com/med...AA-7zq.jpg

If this is authentic and not the fan made one, how is it he has it now. Did the collector-leggers or those in the estate who have it, just give it to him?

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #747 posted 04/30/17 4:41pm

feeluupp

rdhull said:

love2thenines2003 said:

It seems that the version of 17 days 12inch does exist....saw this on Twitter ...picture from Queslove's Vault it seems. ....hope a Christmas's box of PR superdeluxe with this kind of goodies ? https://pbs.twimg.com/med...AA-7zq.jpg

If this is authentic and not the fan made one, how is it he has it now. Did the collector-leggers or those in the estate who have it, just give it to him?

Acoording to Quest there is a segment of Brenda speaking a dialouge...

Reply #748 posted 04/30/17 4:45pm

rdhull

feeluupp said:

rdhull said:

If this is authentic and not the fan made one, how is it he has it now. Did the collector-leggers or those in the estate who have it, just give it to him?

Acoording to Quest there is a segment of Brenda speaking a dialouge...

This is my holy grail. Maybe one day it will get leaked or released...Susan are you listening ?lol.

I just want to hear it..once. Then I can die.

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[Edited 4/30/17 19:19pm]

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #749 posted 04/30/17 6:32pm

MD431Madcat

WHEN U PUT IT THAT WAY... lol

TheEnglishGent said:

MD431Madcat said:

I cant believe that this meaningless WB quick money grab actually means so much to so many of you... neutral

A remastered PR and a nice disc of vault stuff for £11.99, they can keep grabbing my money all day long if they keep putting out stuff like this at this price point.

Reply #750 posted 04/30/17 6:33pm

MD431Madcat

i'LL SAY AND DO WHAT I WISH THANK YOU.

ForceofNature said:

MD431Madcat said:

I cant believe that this meaningless WB quick money grab actually means so much to so many of you... neutral

I suppose anything you personally don't like is a money grab? If you can't see how people would be happy about it, then might as well stop complaining over and over again online about it

[Edited 4/30/17 14:32pm]

Reply #751 posted 04/30/17 7:10pm

mrmaxwell

I hadn't posted on the Org for 6 years until this thread started and pulled me back in because it was talking about the new release and the MUSIC!

SNIP
clip which is clearly available now on several sites such as CNN and surely comes under fair use policy of the DCMA.

Warner Bros have been terrible in their communication with their silence and backtracking on their press release yet a user here gives the only updates we have seen and is banned!

I guess I won't post here for another 6 years as nothing has changed.
SNIP
Reply #752 posted 04/30/17 7:22pm

rdhull

mrmaxwell said:

I hadn't posted on the Org for 6 years until this thread started and pulled me back in because it was talking about the new release and the MUSIC! I don't understand why the main contributors here have been banned for supplying a small clip which is clearly available now on several sites such as CNN and surely comes under fair use policy of the DCMA. Warner Bros have been terrible in their communication with their silence and backtracking on their press release yet a user here gives the only updates we have seen and is banned! I guess I won't post here for another 6 years as nothing has changed. Even after our guy has passed the mods still have no clue what Love4OneAnother means...

You only have a total of 35 posts though lol.

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #753 posted 04/30/17 8:00pm

EddieC

love2thenines2003 said:

It seems that the version of 17 days 12inch does exist....saw this on Twitter ...picture from Queslove's Vault it seems. ....hope a Christmas's box of PR superdeluxe with this kind of goodies ? https://pbs.twimg.com/med...AA-7zq.jpg

I know I'm in the minority here, but as much as I love 17 Days (and I probably am a Prince fan today because that b-side, on the back of the first Prince record I bought, let me know that Prince's extras were as good as everybody else's best)--I've never felt anything was missing from it, and I've never been able to work up any great interest in the possibility of an extended version. Now, the fact that Quest has a file with that name... might mean something. But it might not. Unless I eventually have a file with that name--it don't mean a thing to me.

Reply #754 posted 04/30/17 8:13pm

SquirrelMeat

EddieC said:

love2thenines2003 said:

It seems that the version of 17 days 12inch does exist....saw this on Twitter ...picture from Queslove's Vault it seems. ....hope a Christmas's box of PR superdeluxe with this kind of goodies ? https://pbs.twimg.com/med...AA-7zq.jpg

I know I'm in the minority here, but as much as I love 17 Days (and I probably am a Prince fan today because that b-side, on the back of the first Prince record I bought, let me know that Prince's extras were as good as everybody else's best)--I've never felt anything was missing from it, and I've never been able to work up any great interest in the possibility of an extended version. Now, the fact that Quest has a file with that name... might mean something. But it might not. Unless I eventually have a file with that name--it don't mean a thing to me.


I can understand that, but I felt the same about She's Always In My Hair (here in the UK, only the 7" version was available). But when I finally got the 12", it became the definitive. I don't think many of us would just want an 'extended beats' type version, but a full version is a very different thing.

In regards to 17 Days, although we have always thought there is a longer version, I think WB just legitimised it. The listing for 17 Days on the PR Deluxe is clearly listed as 7" edit. So therefore, there must be a full verion.

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Reply #755 posted 04/30/17 8:17pm

rdhull

EddieC said:

love2thenines2003 said:

It seems that the version of 17 days 12inch does exist....saw this on Twitter ...picture from Queslove's Vault it seems. ....hope a Christmas's box of PR superdeluxe with this kind of goodies ? https://pbs.twimg.com/med...AA-7zq.jpg

I know I'm in the minority here, but as much as I love 17 Days (and I probably am a Prince fan today because that b-side, on the back of the first Prince record I bought, let me know that Prince's extras were as good as everybody else's best)--I've never felt anything was missing from it, and I've never been able to work up any great interest in the possibility of an extended version. Now, the fact that Quest has a file with that name... might mean something. But it might not. Unless I eventually have a file with that name--it don't mean a thing to me.

At the very least, it means that it EXISTS. Ive heard t and others report about it over the years but nothing seemed tangble and could have been bullshitting, who knew? But now that it is definitive that the posibility of something so great exists just adds something to the world regarding this thing of ours.

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #756 posted 04/30/17 8:31pm

pld71

MD431Madcat said:

WARNING---> IGNORANT NEWBIE ALERT!!!!  confused


 




pld71 said:


MD431Madcat said:

This is some LAME NEWBIE fucking BULLSHIT!!!!


songs i already own and a concert that i've had on vhs since the mid 80's... 


confused


 



Already own the concert on boot DVD. Meh. [Edited 4/28/17 17:06pm]

 



I own the vhs also. Who's a newbie?
Reply #757 posted 04/30/17 10:06pm

EddieC

rdhull said:

EddieC said:

I know I'm in the minority here, but as much as I love 17 Days (and I probably am a Prince fan today because that b-side, on the back of the first Prince record I bought, let me know that Prince's extras were as good as everybody else's best)--I've never felt anything was missing from it, and I've never been able to work up any great interest in the possibility of an extended version. Now, the fact that Quest has a file with that name... might mean something. But it might not. Unless I eventually have a file with that name--it don't mean a thing to me.

At the very least, it means that it EXISTS. Ive heard t and others report about it over the years but nothing seemed tangble and could have been bullshitting, who knew? But now that it is definitive that the posibility of something so great exists just adds something to the world regarding this thing of ours.

Hey, I get it--probably it exists (the 7'' edit description Squirrel Meat cited just adds to the evidence). Quest probably doesn't just have a mislabeled file--heck, he might have even gotten it from P--but until I have it myself, I'm not gonna think about it that much. Actually, that's not true--until I hear that some of you guys have it, I'm not gonna think about it that much. If a bunch of orgers come on here, saying they've got it, that it's out--yeah, I'll be on it instantly. The second I hear it leaks, I'll be googling and contacting anyone I think might help. I'm just saving my vault fantasizing for lots of other stuff until it actually shows up. And that's even if everyone reports it is just an "extended beats" version, not the glorious thing so many people seem to expect.

Reply #758 posted 05/01/17 1:34am

FunkOnTheOne

EddieC said:

FunkOnTheOne said:

It is interesting how different the world of the Prince forum and Facebook are now. Links to anything realeased are made avilable on Facebook within minutes and continue to be shared but obviously on forums like this they are not.

Is it possible to explain why Youtube are immune from these issues by the Safe Harbour laws, but Prince.org are not? It's not a criticism of the Org, I just assume that better lawyers buy you more rights.

Here's the thing (I assume, not being a mod)--but when people get dinged on Facebook and Youtube for copyright, it's individual account holders that get gotten, and that person can make the choice to risk their own account. But a post here puts the entire forum at risk, and, quite honestly, we as individuals don't have the right to make the choice to risk things for everyone. I'm not sure why this is so confusing to everyone that somebody gets all up in arms about it every month or two, but it's really not that complicated. Sure, I'd like it if Prince/Prince's estate/Prince's record company had a different approach to the issue, but unless they decide officially that they do, we need to be sensible and keep the forum safe.

Whilst I understand your point, it is a little complicated. You are stating that when Facebook or Youtube users upload a Prince video, Facebook and Youtube are not responsible for the upload, the individual users are.

However, when Prince.Org users upload a Prince video, Prince.Org are responisble. I am not criticising either policy, but it needs to be consistent. Are the org currently operating under different laws to the rest of the world or is it simply that in the USA your rights are determined by your wealth and your access to lawyers?


Or are you saying that WB have different policies for Facebook, Youtube and the Org?

[Edited 5/1/17 1:36am]

Reply #759 posted 05/01/17 1:48am

thedance

Electric Intercourse (Studio).. what a great track.... heart

Thanks to Warner and those who made the release. cloud9

Prince 4Ever. heart
Reply #760 posted 05/01/17 2:02am

dance4me3121

Already number 8 in best sellers rank and we still have about 2 months before it's released.thats a really good sign


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Reply #761 posted 05/01/17 2:09am

dodger

rdhull said:

 



love2thenines2003 said:


It seems that the version of 17 days 12inch does exist....saw this on Twitter ...picture from Queslove's Vault it seems. ....hope a Christmas's box of PR superdeluxe with this kind of goodies ? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-gWBcfV0AA-7zq.jpg

 


 


If this is authentic and not the fan made one, how is it he has it now. Did the collector-leggers or those in the estate who have it, just give it to him?



Questlove insists its real and I think he's had it for a while.
.
The plot thickens with Mathieu Bitton saying on Twitter 'the master was not at WB and wasn't found anywhere. 7.21 version was sent back to Prince in June 87.'
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Reply #762 posted 05/01/17 8:52am

PacManPlus

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Ugh.

'17 Days' is one of my all-time favorite songs of his. So much so that I had made myself my own long edit of the song. It kills me seeing this... I hope this gets released at some point sad

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[Edited 5/1/17 8:52am]

Reply #763 posted 05/01/17 9:09am

Ugot2shakesumthin

PacManPlus said:

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Ugh.

'17 Days' is one of my all-time favorite songs of his. So much so that I had made myself my own long edit of the song. It kills me seeing this... I hope this gets released at some point sad

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[Edited 5/1/17 8:52am]

Isn't the long version on The Hits The B-Sides.

Facebook is for losers.
Reply #764 posted 05/01/17 9:15am

rdhull

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

PacManPlus said:

.

Ugh.

'17 Days' is one of my all-time favorite songs of his. So much so that I had made myself my own long edit of the song. It kills me seeing this... I hope this gets released at some point sad

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[Edited 5/1/17 8:52am]

Isn't the long version on The Hits The B-Sides.

confused

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #765 posted 05/01/17 9:44am

eyewishuheaven

It's always boggled my mind that the 7" version was on the 12" single. If there's an extended version out there somewhere, I'd wager that Prince wasn't particularly fond of it.

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #766 posted 05/01/17 11:05am

TheThem

No Modernaire, No Wednesday, No Lust U Always, No G-Spot...No get.

Reply #767 posted 05/01/17 11:13am

bonatoc

MiceElfAgin said:

Sifi said:

Hi there, I am getting strong signals that Warner is definitely listening to the comments posted here and elsewhere online. They ARE 100% aware of the expectations based on previous statements. I am convinced they are working hard getting the First Avenue 1983 show up to standards for release.

Unfortunately, it won’t be in time for the announced June 23rd release, but that was the original plan.

It's not someone’s deliberate choice or fault, it's just a matter of how things are, production-wise.

[Snip - luv4u]

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Thanks, Sifi.
.
I can understand that remastering the First Avenue show takes longer than predicted.
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What I absolutely cannot understand though is how come such an important release as this Purple Rain Deluxe set come out with a DVD in 2017 and not with a BluRay! I know that the Syracuse show wasn't recorded in HD, but I'm dreading to see and hear a PAL DVD with the 4% speed up. Even if the soundtrack is pitchshifted back to normal key, the tempo would still be 4% faster and these artifacts make me practically unable to enjoy the music. (If it comes out only on NTSC, then picture quality will suffer a bit.)
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C'mon, Warners, it's 2017. We need a BluRay. Don't go so cheap on this one!
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And don't even get me started on not having 24bit/96kHz versions included in the set. That is standard practice these days for a lot of deluxe editions, such as Steve Wilson's Jethro Tull and other remixes.
.

Oh yeah, and why on Earth did they have to mess with the artwork and rotate the main photo?
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[Edited 4/29/17 2:59am]


This box is not aimed at the hardcore fans and collectors.
I sure hope an incredible one goes out in a few years.

On, and the artwork, what a missed opportunity. Doesn't make any sense to me.

Africa, Cap'n Crunch, Norma Jean, Sex and Cheerio's
Play my record double speed, feel the climax fit 4 a king
Reply #768 posted 05/01/17 12:34pm

SomeSoldier

TheThem said:

No Modernaire, No Wednesday, No Lust U Always, No G-Spot...No get.

Your loss.

Reply #769 posted 05/01/17 1:31pm

jjam

There being a 17 Days official long version was confirmed a few years ago.

It's a no-brainer even getting this reissue considering how inexpensive it is. Plus future expanded reissues will be reliant on the sales figures of this one - in other words, in other words, don't be a dick, buy it, and we'll see more of these releases.

Reply #770 posted 05/01/17 1:33pm

dance4me3121

Alright! I just preordered ny copy of Purple Rain-deluxe (3 CDs/1 DVD). I can't wait!!!
Reply #771 posted 05/01/17 1:52pm

lust

Apologies if it's been covered but I note there's no explicit warning for possessed. Does this mean no pussy sugar for us?
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
Reply #772 posted 05/01/17 2:06pm

Dilan

SomeSoldier said:

TheThem said:

No Modernaire, No Wednesday, No Lust U Always, No G-Spot...No get.

Your loss.

Ita not their loss, they don't necesarilly have to pay for it to "get it".

[Edited 5/1/17 14:07pm]

I'm feeling a bit fammy™
Reply #773 posted 05/01/17 2:23pm

dance4me3121

Am I right that only the purple rain remastered Album is available to order? There isn't a version of the vinyl that comes with the single and unreleased songs?
Reply #774 posted 05/01/17 3:42pm

march

So did Prince rerecord all the songs or does remastered mean something else?
Reply #775 posted 05/01/17 3:53pm

jjam

I also think that Sifi should set up a page called The Sifi Reality or something wink I appreciate that rules are rules but I'll miss the insight that they offered.

Reply #776 posted 05/01/17 3:57pm

bluegangsta

march said:

So did Prince rerecord all the songs or does remastered mean something else?

This is a joke, right? neutral

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #777 posted 05/01/17 3:59pm

rdhull

bluegangsta said:

march said:

So did Prince rerecord all the songs or does remastered mean something else?

This is a joke, right? neutral

lol

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #778 posted 05/01/17 3:59pm

TrivialPursuit

march said:

So did Prince rerecord all the songs or does remastered mean something else?


Remastered never means re-recorded. ELO's Jeff Lynne set to release a 1-disk greatest hits type package. His manager had encouraged him to rerecord 2 or 3 of the songs. He ended up re-recorded the whole disk of songs. Amazingly, they sound exactly, but clearer, like the originals. It's pretty amazing, considering the vocoder and other FX on vocals they used back in the day.

A re-master is simply going back to the mastering process, and retweaking it (for lack of a better word). You pull out the master tapes, clean them up, and go through the mastering process again. That's a really, really layman way of putting it. I'm sure an audiophile on here is going to elaborate on that. So no, Prince did not re-record anything.

And thank God, frankly. Prince isn't one to revisit the past like that, so I cannot see him sitting down and pulling out the Linn, and reconfiguring everything like 1983 and doing it all again. I want those tracks and those tapes, cleared up a bit as much as possible without blasting out the board, and just have a better take on the songs. It pays to remaster stuff these days, because folks will buy it, and there is so much technology at our fingertips with better speakers, better headphones, etc to really experience that stuff in a whole new way.

"Despite everything, no 1 can dictate who u r 2 other people." - Prince |
http://bit.ly/unboxingprince
Reply #779 posted 05/01/17 5:12pm

MD431Madcat

If you own the VHS tape also.. why did you make this comment... confused

"Already own the concert on boot DVD. Meh"

pld71 said:

MD431Madcat said:

WARNING---> IGNORANT NEWBIE ALERT!!!! confused

I own the vhs also. Who's a newbie?

Reply #780 posted 05/01/17 5:25pm

ForceofNature

TheThem said:

No Modernaire, No Wednesday, No Lust U Always, No G-Spot...No get.

Wonderful Ass, Computer Blue Hallways version, We Can Fuck, The Dance Electric.... if no get is your MO, well that IMO is a big loss

Reply #781 posted 05/01/17 5:32pm

pld71

MD431Madcat said:

If you own the VHS tape also.. why did you make this comment... confused


"Already own the concert on boot DVD. Meh"



pld71 said:


MD431Madcat said:

WARNING---> IGNORANT NEWBIE ALERT!!!!  confused


 



 



I own the vhs also. Who's a newbie?

 



I dont even have a vhs player anymore. So I watch the DVD instead. I'm excited about the unreleased tracks but the new DVD not so much.
Reply #782 posted 05/01/17 8:21pm

SoulAlive

^^ I still have my VHS copy,too....bought it in 1985 lol
Reply #783 posted 05/01/17 8:50pm

EnDoRpHn

So WTH happened to the "two complete concert films" promised by WBR back in February?

Reply #784 posted 05/01/17 9:21pm

bluegangsta

EnDoRpHn said:

So WTH happened to the "two complete concert films" promised by WBR back in February?

Try reading the last couple of pages?

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #785 posted 05/02/17 12:43am

RODSERLING

getxxxx said:

MiceElfAgin said:

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smile It's far from being as simple as you might think. Coverting 24fps to 25fps is a tricky task and is never without negative side-effects.

We need BluRay. I think Warners could afford the the extra cost in mastering.

not everyone has a BLU RAY player

Sony re-released OF THE WALL last year along with a documentary. You can buy the dvd version or the bluray version of the set.

Reply #786 posted 05/02/17 1:15am

mrmaxwell

RODSERLING said:

getxxxx said:

not everyone has a BLU RAY player

Sony re-released OF THE WALL last year along with a documentary. You can buy the dvd version or the bluray version of the set.



For Blu Ray you need a high defintion source (either film or HD video). Syracuse was shot on video so no high defintion - releasing a Blu Ray version would be pointless becasue the resolution would be almost the same as DVD (upscaled and digitally corrected to try and acheive a better picture).

The rumored Controversy show that was shot to be included on the Second Coming project WAS shot on film and could be remastered into high defintion for release on Blu Ray. Only footage shot on film or HD video by Prince would benefit from a remastered Blu Ray release.

[Edited 5/2/17 1:16am]

Reply #787 posted 05/02/17 1:22am

love2thenines2003

I wonder if in the end ...latter this year...WB is considering to release a SUPERbox Deluxe Ed. of PR with more outtakes.....demos/alternate takes and of course a DVD or Blueray version of the 1st AV 83 Performance ????

This would be so great 4 us fans....anyway PR deserve a release like this !!

cool

[Edited 5/2/17 1:23am]

[Edited 5/2/17 1:33am]

Reply #788 posted 05/02/17 1:26am

RODSERLING

jaypotton said:

BartVanHemelen said:

the inclusion of a concert video (i.e. Syracuse) in a box set was basically a given.

So when I speculate about a potential realistic scenario that there will be further Purple Rain releases in the future based on standard industry practice to repackage and resell existing works, you accuse me of baseless speculation. But when YOU say the inclusion of Syracuse was a given, which is clearly speculation on your part, that is ok? YOU have no idea if Syracuse was intended to be included as of the deal in 2014. I would agree it was a highly likely scenario though. So perhaps you can concede that despite once again attacking someone (in this case me) for speculating, that I too was putting forward something that is a highly likely scenario?

The original 2014 deal didn't include video material. It was officially stated at the time.

Reply #789 posted 05/02/17 1:36am

dance4me3121

love2thenines2003 said:

I wonder if in the end ...latter this year...WB is considering to release a SUPERbox Deluxe Ed. of PR with more outtakes.....demos/alternate takes and of course a DVD or Blueray version of the 1st AV 83 Performance ????


This would be so great 4 us fans....anyway PR deserve a release like this !!


 


cool


[Edited 5/2/17 1:23am]

[Edited 5/2/17 1:33am]


I can see the super box edition going for sale just in time for Christmas
[Edited 5/2/17 1:36am]
Reply #790 posted 05/02/17 2:10am

bluegangsta

love2thenines2003 said:

I wonder if in the end ...latter this year...WB is considering to release a SUPERbox Deluxe Ed. of PR with more outtakes.....demos/alternate takes and of course a DVD or Blueray version of the 1st AV 83 Performance ????

This would be so great 4 us fans....anyway PR deserve a release like this !!

That would be fucking terrible. And you'd have to be a massive moron to support a company that would do that.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #791 posted 05/02/17 2:25am

TheEnglishGent

bluegangsta said:

love2thenines2003 said:

I wonder if in the end ...latter this year...WB is considering to release a SUPERbox Deluxe Ed. of PR with more outtakes.....demos/alternate takes and of course a DVD or Blueray version of the 1st AV 83 Performance ????

This would be so great 4 us fans....anyway PR deserve a release like this !!

That would be fucking terrible. And you'd have to be a massive moron to support a company that would do that.

No really, depends on what is in the package. If they do that and just release what they put out in June, plus one extra disc and they're charging even more for it, then that's no good as they will obvioulsy trying to rinse us of more cash for that extra essential disc. If it's a set which includes plenty of extra stuff which isn't coming out in June and it has loads more outtakes from the era, then how is that a problem?

[Edited 5/2/17 2:28am]

RIP sad
Reply #792 posted 05/02/17 2:25am

love2thenines2003

bluegangsta said:

love2thenines2003 said:

I wonder if in the end ...latter this year...WB is considering to release a SUPERbox Deluxe Ed. of PR with more outtakes.....demos/alternate takes and of course a DVD or Blueray version of the 1st AV 83 Performance ????

This would be so great 4 us fans....anyway PR deserve a release like this !!

That would be fucking terrible. And you'd have to be a massive moron to support a company that would do that.

I'm rassured because there cant' be more MORON than U!

wink

Reply #793 posted 05/02/17 3:21am

bluegangsta

love2thenines2003 said:

bluegangsta said:

That would be fucking terrible. And you'd have to be a massive moron to support a company that would do that.

I'm rassured because there cant' be more MORON than U!

wink

*Reassured
*Can't
*You
*"more of a moron"

Well done.

[Edited 5/2/17 3:22am]

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #794 posted 05/02/17 3:31am

TheEnglishGent

bluegangsta said:

love2thenines2003 said:

I'm rassured because there cant' be more MORON than U!

wink

*Reassured
*Can't
*You
*"more of a moron"

Well done.

[Edited 5/2/17 3:22am]

This exchange amuses me. I especially like how you've corrected love2thenines2003 by showing to use capitalised words in the middle of their sentence. wink

RIP sad
Reply #795 posted 05/02/17 3:36am

RODSERLING

mrmaxwell said:

RODSERLING said:

Sony re-released OF THE WALL last year along with a documentary. You can buy the dvd version or the bluray version of the set.



For Blu Ray you need a high defintion source (either film or HD video). Syracuse was shot on video so no high defintion - releasing a Blu Ray version would be pointless becasue the resolution would be almost the same as DVD (upscaled and digitally corrected to try and acheive a better picture).

The rumored Controversy show that was shot to be included on the Second Coming project WAS shot on film and could be remastered into high defintion for release on Blu Ray. Only footage shot on film or HD video by Prince would benefit from a remastered Blu Ray release.

[Edited 5/2/17 1:16am]

The Syracuse live was obviously shot on film.

Reply #796 posted 05/02/17 3:38am

bluegangsta

RODSERLING said:

The Syracuse live was obviously shot on film.

It obviously wasn't. Do you have any idea how difficult it would be to televise a concert live while it's being shot on film in that kind of setting? Not to mention, there's no apparent film artifacts on any of the video transfers.

It was not shot on film.

[Edited 5/2/17 3:39am]

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #797 posted 05/02/17 3:55am

HideTheBong

TheEnglishGent said:

bluegangsta said:

That would be fucking terrible. And you'd have to be a massive moron to support a company that would do that.

No really, depends on what is in the package. If they do that and just release what they put out in June, plus one extra disc and they're charging even more for it, then that's no good as they will obvioulsy trying to rinse us of more cash for that extra essential disc. If it's a set which includes plenty of extra stuff which isn't coming out in June and it has loads more outtakes from the era, then how is that a problem?

[Edited 5/2/17 2:28am]

Indeed. I couldn't give a hoot how many PR Deluxes come out eventually - just as long as any additional material doesn't conflict with previous configurations.

I'm really suprised at a few ppl on here who are turning their noses up on this initial release. Apart from the mis-leading statement regarding two live shows, this ain't a bad start, imo.

I bought a Dolphin - just in case
Reply #798 posted 05/02/17 4:13am

TheEnglishGent

bluegangsta said:

RODSERLING said:

The Syracuse live was obviously shot on film.

It obviously wasn't. Do you have any idea how difficult it would be to televise a concert live while it's being shot on film in that kind of setting? Not to mention, there's no apparent film artifacts on any of the video transfers.

It was not shot on film.

[Edited 5/2/17 3:39am]

I don't know what it was or wasn't shot on but either way I'd imagine that they also have a separate audio source regardless of how the video was shot. This could be re-mastered and you could have a much better soundtrack on the Blu-Ray even if the picture wasn't much better. People seem to forget that Blu-Ray can have lossless audio.

RIP sad
Reply #799 posted 05/02/17 5:07am

RODSERLING

bluegangsta said:

RODSERLING said:

The Syracuse live was obviously shot on film.

It obviously wasn't. Do you have any idea how difficult it would be to televise a concert live while it's being shot on film in that kind of setting? Not to mention, there's no apparent film artifacts on any of the video transfers.

It was not shot on film.

[Edited 5/2/17 3:39am]

So what is the point in re-releasing this live in bad audio / video quality ? I don't buy this is the only live that actually shot in its entirety from the PR tour.

Reply #800 posted 05/02/17 5:20am

tbokris

TheEnglishGent said:

bluegangsta said:

*Reassured
*Can't
*You
*"more of a moron"

Well done.

[Edited 5/2/17 3:22am]

This exchange amuses me. I especially like how you've corrected love2thenines2003 by showing to use capitalised words in the middle of their sentence. wink

.

Yeah especially as bluegangsta corrected a very 'Prince' spelling of 'U' to 'You'.

Bluegangsta (Blue Gangster?) was obviously behind the botched retitling on the new Record Store Day Batman 12"s.

.

Reply #801 posted 05/02/17 5:39am

JorisE73

RODSERLING said:

bluegangsta said:

It obviously wasn't. Do you have any idea how difficult it would be to televise a concert live while it's being shot on film in that kind of setting? Not to mention, there's no apparent film artifacts on any of the video transfers.

It was not shot on film.

[Edited 5/2/17 3:39am]

So what is the point in re-releasing this live in bad audio / video quality ? I don't buy this is the only live that actually shot in its entirety from the PR tour.

I've heard that all LA shows were filmed (on video not film) and most east coast shows (also video and not film) if I remember correctly I read somewhere that the Syracuse show was also shot on video and not on film because it was broadcast via satelite. I believe the Musicology soundcheck and show that was broadcast via satelite to American theaters was also on video and not film.

Reply #802 posted 05/02/17 5:59am

RODSERLING

JorisE73 said:

RODSERLING said:

So what is the point in re-releasing this live in bad audio / video quality ? I don't buy this is the only live that actually shot in its entirety from the PR tour.

I've heard that all LA shows were filmed (on video not film) and most east coast shows (also video and not film) if I remember correctly I read somewhere that the Syracuse show was also shot on video and not on film because it was broadcast via satelite. I believe the Musicology soundcheck and show that was broadcast via satelite to American theaters was also on video and not film.

With all the hype created by the album, the movie, the oscar, and the US tour in 1985, they'd had only shot the concerts on video ? eek

That would be very incredible if WB were so cheap on that.

.

Some suits at WB must have thought in 1985 that after the success of the movie on theaters, they could release a concert as a sequel, especially since the PR tour didn't come outside the US, and make additionnal money out of it.

.

It would be such a smart-less and illogical decision to shot concerts only on video, even in 1985; especially from a firm/ artist that revolutionized the music industry by being #1 in album, radio, singles and theaters at the same time. I have hard time to actually believe that.

Reply #803 posted 05/02/17 6:25am

love2thenines2003

I hope that SIFI will reply again here on this forum....we need person like him/her on this forum !

Thanx in advance to enlighten us again whenever u want or can ?

biggrin

Reply #804 posted 05/02/17 6:37am

TheEnglishGent

love2thenines2003 said:

I hope that SIFI will reply again here on this forum....we need person like him/her on this forum !

Thanx in advance to enlighten us again whenever u want or can ?

biggrin

You must have missed the part where Sifi got a ban for posting a link to some video of the First Avenue concert. Don't know how long it's for.

RIP sad
Reply #805 posted 05/02/17 6:43am

tbokris

Sifi did us all a favour, and that's how he gets repaid? That's a shame.

Reply #806 posted 05/02/17 7:38am

master

KingSausage said:

It's always possible that someone will argue with mods instead of agreeing to not make further mistakes. In which case a ban could be appropriate. I'm not saying that's what happened here. But there might be stuff we don't know.

Regardless, I'd like to see SiFi back because he or she has GREAT inside information.

Anyone from Warner's should be banned until they release truthful statements or stop with the cashgrab releases.
They are causing a lot of disappointment.
Reply #807 posted 05/02/17 7:45am

TheEnglishGent

master said:

KingSausage said:
It's always possible that someone will argue with mods instead of agreeing to not make further mistakes. In which case a ban could be appropriate. I'm not saying that's what happened here. But there might be stuff we don't know. Regardless, I'd like to see SiFi back because he or she has GREAT inside information.
Anyone from Warner's should be banned until they release truthful statements or stop with the cashgrab releases. They are causing a lot of disappointment.

How is this a cash grab? Let's see what happens in the future. This release seems good value for what you get, especially in the 2 disc configuration.

RIP sad
Reply #808 posted 05/02/17 7:57am

jungleluv

TwiliteKid said:

jungleluv said:

No Apollonia 6, No The Time, no Dez.................................so I ain't gonna bother buying it

I don't know why some of you think that stuff belongs on this set, but it was never going to happen.

So u think that 17 days & Erotic City( which were not in Purple Rain ) should be on there as opposed 2 songs that were actually in the film???!!! Bullshit.

Reply #809 posted 05/02/17 8:16am

TheEnglishGent

jungleluv said:

TwiliteKid said:

jungleluv said: I don't know why some of you think that stuff belongs on this set, but it was never going to happen.

So u think that 17 days & Erotic City( which were not in Purple Rain ) should be on there as opposed 2 songs that were actually in the film???!!! Bullshit.

Personally I'm only interested in the Prince stuff, I have zero desire for any of the other artist stuff.

RIP sad
Reply #810 posted 05/02/17 8:20am

djThunderfunk

TheEnglishGent said:

bluegangsta said:

It obviously wasn't. Do you have any idea how difficult it would be to televise a concert live while it's being shot on film in that kind of setting? Not to mention, there's no apparent film artifacts on any of the video transfers.

It was not shot on film.

[Edited 5/2/17 3:39am]

I don't know what it was or wasn't shot on but either way I'd imagine that they also have a separate audio source regardless of how the video was shot. This could be re-mastered and you could have a much better soundtrack on the Blu-Ray even if the picture wasn't much better. People seem to forget that Blu-Ray can have lossless audio.


If it's on DVD, it will most assureadly have lossy (MP3) audio, not even 320kbps, probably 192kbps.

SOME DVDs do have lossless PCM audio, but that is a rarity...

Blurays can handle full HD, lossless audio.

Also hoping for the option of 5.1 or stereo audio. I personally prefer stereo for things like this.

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
Reply #811 posted 05/02/17 8:32am

eyewishuheaven

djThunderfunk said:

Also hoping for the option of 5.1 or stereo audio. I personally prefer stereo for things like this.


Yeah, fake surround mixes of stereo sources are pretty pointless, and always underwhelming.

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #812 posted 05/02/17 8:55am

sexton

dodger said:



rdhull said:



love2thenines2003 said:

It seems that the version of 17 days 12inch does exist....saw this on Twitter ...picture from Queslove's Vault it seems. ....hope a Christmas's box of PR superdeluxe with this kind of goodies ? https://pbs.twimg.com/med...AA-7zq.jpg



If this is authentic and not the fan made one, how is it he has it now. Did the collector-leggers or those in the estate who have it, just give it to him?



Questlove insists its real and I think he's had it for a while. . The plot thickens with Mathieu Bitton saying on Twitter 'the master was not at WB and wasn't found anywhere. 7.21 version was sent back to Prince in June 87.' .


Lost in the vault. sad

Reply #813 posted 05/02/17 9:03am

BartVanHemelen

RODSERLING said:

It would be such a smart-less and illogical decision to shot concerts only on video, even in 1985; especially from a firm/ artist that revolutionized the music industry by being #1 in album, radio, singles and theaters at the same time. I have hard time to actually believe that.

.

Based on what? Go on, list all of those concerts that were filmed on film and not on video. Doing things on film was back then a fuckload harder than video, and more expensive. Sheesh, Prince filmed SOTT on film and then had close to zero workable footage and ended up reshooting a phoney concert at PP.

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It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
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Reply #814 posted 05/02/17 9:10am

BartVanHemelen

bluegangsta said:

love2thenines2003 said:

It seems that the version of 17 days 12inch does exist....saw this on Twitter ...picture from Queslove's Vault it seems. ....hope a Christmas's box of PR superdeluxe with this kind of goodies ? https://pbs.twimg.com/med...AA-7zq.jpg

And this is yet another example of why Warners/ Estate should be woking with fans. It wouldn't s

surprise me if we have more than what they do.

.

If they can't locate the master tape in the mess that Prince's vault seems to be, then it is pointless.

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It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
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Reply #815 posted 05/02/17 9:14am

BartVanHemelen

rdhull said:

If this is authentic and not the fan made one, how is it he has it now.

.

Dude, come on, there have been countless examples in the past years where prisitine versions suddenly appear because elite collectors have had them for years and decades and some of them have slipped out.

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Reply #816 posted 05/02/17 9:16am

BartVanHemelen

linus4000 said:

And yes, Bart....Instead of complaining all the time like you, Prince liked to record new music all the time...

.

He spent the summer ofbitching to reporters about warners not wanting to release 3EG and/or not releasing his new album fast enough, and then he couldn't be arsed to show up for the premiere of it on GMA.

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Reply #817 posted 05/02/17 9:21am

BartVanHemelen

jaypotton said:

BartVanHemelen said:

the inclusion of a concert video (i.e. Syracuse) in a box set was basically a given.

So when I speculate about a potential realistic scenario that there will be further Purple Rain releases in the future based on standard industry practice to repackage and resell existing works, you accuse me of baseless speculation.

.

Because you presented it as if this is planned. It isn't. You're forgetting about Hanlon's razor.

.


But when YOU say the inclusion of Syracuse was a given, which is clearly speculation on your part, that is ok? YOU have no idea if Syracuse was intended to be included as of the deal in 2014.

.

Correct. But it would be absurd to release a box set and not include an already released concert.

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This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
Reply #818 posted 05/02/17 9:32am

nelcp777

sexton said:

dodger said:





Questlove insists its real and I think he's had it for a while. . The plot thickens with Mathieu Bitton saying on Twitter 'the master was not at WB and wasn't found anywhere. 7.21 version was sent back to Prince in June 87.' .


Lost in the vault. sad

How is Questlove getting all these tracks?

Reply #819 posted 05/02/17 9:54am

NorthC

BartVanHemelen said:

 



RODSERLING said:


 


It would be such a smart-less and illogical decision to shot concerts only on video, even in 1985; especially from a firm/ artist that revolutionized the music industry by being #1 in album, radio, singles and theaters at the same time. I have hard time to actually believe that.



.


Based on what? Go on, list all of those concerts that were filmed on film and not on video. Doing things on film was back then a fuckload harder than video, and more expensive. Sheesh, Prince filmed SOTT on film and then had close to zero workable footage and ended up reshooting a phoney concert at PP.


Ehhh... Dortmund 88? That one shows what could be done when Prince worked with a good director, the late great Egbert van Hees.
Don't ever lose your dreams.
Reply #820 posted 05/02/17 10:19am

RaspBerryGirlFriend

NorthC said:

BartVanHemelen said:

.

Based on what? Go on, list all of those concerts that were filmed on film and not on video. Doing things on film was back then a fuckload harder than video, and more expensive. Sheesh, Prince filmed SOTT on film and then had close to zero workable footage and ended up reshooting a phoney concert at PP.

Ehhh... Dortmund 88? That one shows what could be done when Prince worked with a good director, the late great Egbert van Hees.

Was that not filmed on video as well?

Heavenly wine and roses seems to whisper to me when you smile...
Always cry for love, never cry for pain...
Reply #821 posted 05/02/17 10:26am

minneapolisgenius

Hey everyone, I have a message to deliver here on behalf of Sifi:

"Hi all, due to the blocking of my account, I cannot read or answer any orgnotes. The block will last another 5 days I believe. However, I will cancel my account after that time anyway. Thank you for listening. Ciao! Sifi."
"I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven
Reply #822 posted 05/02/17 10:30am

jaypotton

BartVanHemelen said:

 



jaypotton said:


BartVanHemelen said:

the inclusion of a concert video (i.e. Syracuse) in a box set was basically a given.




So when I speculate about a potential realistic scenario that there will be further Purple Rain releases in the future based on standard industry practice to repackage and resell existing works, you accuse me of baseless speculation.

.


Because you presented it as if this is planned. It isn't. You're forgetting about Hanlon's razor.


.




But when YOU say the inclusion of Syracuse was a given, which is clearly speculation on your part, that is ok? YOU have no idea if Syracuse was intended to be included as of the deal in 2014. 

.


Correct. But it would be absurd to release a box set and not include an already released concert.



REALLY BART! oh FFS there is no difference in how I presented a speculative idea and how you did and don't talk about Hanlon's Razor because you do that all the time!

Just tell me, which of us is stupid and which of us has malice?
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'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #823 posted 05/02/17 10:47am

jjam

If it can't be found in the vault, I think Jesus would want that long version of 17 Days to be leaked.

Reply #824 posted 05/02/17 10:59am

Strive

BartVanHemelen said:

RODSERLING said:

It would be such a smart-less and illogical decision to shot concerts only on video, even in 1985; especially from a firm/ artist that revolutionized the music industry by being #1 in album, radio, singles and theaters at the same time. I have hard time to actually believe that.

.

Based on what? Go on, list all of those concerts that were filmed on film and not on video. Doing things on film was back then a fuckload harder than video, and more expensive. Sheesh, Prince filmed SOTT on film and then had close to zero workable footage and ended up reshooting a phoney concert at PP.


The Second Coming was shot on film and Prince bought the concert reels back from the director.

After about three days of meetings and discussions with Prince and his management, I spent a few days on the road watching and blocking the live show for the film shoot. We shot it at the Met Center [in Bloomington, Minnesota] on March 7, 1982. That was a very cold night towards the end of the tour. I’m pretty sure we covered it with five principal cameras—16mm color—and a possible sixth rolling camera for audience shots.

(...)

We were still in the process of cutting the concert at the same time. His management did come back to me several times over the years to discuss the project, but nothing materialized. The film just sat there.

(...)

About five years ago, I get a call from someone saying, “Prince wants to talk to you.” He gets on the phone and says, “You’re not gonna hold me hostage are you?” [laughs] I told him no, I just want to get paid what was due back then! There was no other issue—I just wanted to get my due. After we settled up, I turned over the Met Center footage to him. Including all the camera originals and work prints.

He was very protective of his image back in the day, a little less today, but still wants to keep everything under lock and key. At the time, he didn’t ask about the dramatic scenes; it was like they didn’t exist. Nothing has been done with it. There’s not a lot there though, because it was just the start of the whole idea.


In fact, I thought the footage of those sequences was lost. I called the film lab we originally used and various post-houses around Minneapolis looking for it. No luck. But a little over a year ago, I did manage to locate it in my vault. I sent him a few letters and never heard anything. So if I see him one day, I’ll let him know it’s safe and secure. Maybe if he sees this interview, he’ll reach out to me. Or sue me—one of the two. [laughs] I technically own the footage but can’t do anything with it due to licensing restrictions.

no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #825 posted 05/02/17 10:59am

love2thenines2003

minneapolisgenius said:

Hey everyone, I have a message to deliver here on behalf of Sifi:

"Hi all, due to the blocking of my account, I cannot read or answer any orgnotes. The block will last another 5 days I believe. However, I will cancel my account after that time anyway. Thank you for listening. Ciao! Sifi."


What a disappointment. ...pleaz Sifi. ..if u read me reconsider ur decision...please 2 times!
Reply #826 posted 05/02/17 11:03am

NorthC

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

 



NorthC said:


BartVanHemelen said:

 


.


Based on what? Go on, list all of those concerts that were filmed on film and not on video. Doing things on film was back then a fuckload harder than video, and more expensive. Sheesh, Prince filmed SOTT on film and then had close to zero workable footage and ended up reshooting a phoney concert at PP.



Ehhh... Dortmund 88? That one shows what could be done when Prince worked with a good director, the late great Egbert van Hees.

Was that not filmed on video as well? 


I don't know, that's why I'm asking.
Don't ever lose your dreams.
Reply #827 posted 05/02/17 11:06am

NorthC

love2thenines2003 said:

minneapolisgenius said:

Hey everyone, I have a message to deliver here on behalf of Sifi:

"Hi all, due to the blocking of my account, I cannot read or answer any orgnotes. The block will last another 5 days I believe. However, I will cancel my account after that time anyway. Thank you for listening. Ciao! Sifi."


What a disappointment. ...pleaz Sifi. ..if u read me reconsider ur decision...please 2 times!

Maybe WB didn't like it that Sifi was giving away insiders' information?
Don't ever lose your dreams.
Reply #828 posted 05/02/17 11:13am

RaspBerryGirlFriend

NorthC said:

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

Was that not filmed on video as well?

I don't know, that's why I'm asking.

Ah fair enough, sorry :-p

I'm no expert but I think since the concert was broadcast live it would have almost certainly been shot on video.

Heavenly wine and roses seems to whisper to me when you smile...
Always cry for love, never cry for pain...
Reply #829 posted 05/02/17 11:22am

KingSausage

master said:

KingSausage said:

It's always possible that someone will argue with mods instead of agreeing to not make further mistakes. In which case a ban could be appropriate. I'm not saying that's what happened here. But there might be stuff we don't know.

Regardless, I'd like to see SiFi back because he or she has GREAT inside information.

Anyone from Warner's should be banned until they release truthful statements or stop with the cashgrab releases.
They are causing a lot of disappointment.



WB can grab the fuck outta my cash as long as they keep releasing sets like this. Are they perfect? No. But it's not even $40 for the deluxe set. What the fuck.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #830 posted 05/02/17 11:31am

jaypotton

NorthC said:

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

 



NorthC said:


BartVanHemelen said:

 


.


Based on what? Go on, list all of those concerts that were filmed on film and not on video. Doing things on film was back then a fuckload harder than video, and more expensive. Sheesh, Prince filmed SOTT on film and then had close to zero workable footage and ended up reshooting a phoney concert at PP.



Ehhh... Dortmund 88? That one shows what could be done when Prince worked with a good director, the late great Egbert van Hees.

Was that not filmed on video as well? 


I don't know, that's why I'm asking.


Video
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #831 posted 05/02/17 11:41am

NorthC

Okay.
Don't ever lose your dreams.
Reply #832 posted 05/02/17 11:46am

dsimp8

One other thing I would like to see included in the release is the Purple Rain movie on Bluray. I know it's been released but maybe that would be a nice option to include in case someone does not own the Blu Ray
Reply #833 posted 05/02/17 12:15pm

KingSausage

dsimp8 said:

One other thing I would like to see included in the release is the Purple Rain movie on Bluray. I know it's been released but maybe that would be a nice option to include in case someone does not own the Blu Ray



They could just, I don't know, buy it right now or something. I wouldn't want to give them any crazy suggestions though.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #834 posted 05/02/17 1:30pm

djThunderfunk

love2thenines2003 said:

minneapolisgenius said:
Hey everyone, I have a message to deliver here on behalf of Sifi: "Hi all, due to the blocking of my account, I cannot read or answer any orgnotes. The block will last another 5 days I believe. However, I will cancel my account after that time anyway. Thank you for listening. Ciao! Sifi."
What a disappointment. ...pleaz Sifi. ..if u read me reconsider ur decision...please 2 times!


yeahthat Solid info that's not mired in biased opinion is always welcome here. Please give us a 2nd chance. wink

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
Reply #835 posted 05/02/17 1:38pm

love2thenines2003

djThunderfunk said:

 



love2thenines2003 said:


minneapolisgenius said:
Hey everyone, I have a message to deliver here on behalf of Sifi: "Hi all, due to the blocking of my account, I cannot read or answer any orgnotes. The block will last another 5 days I believe. However, I will cancel my account after that time anyway. Thank you for listening. Ciao! Sifi."

What a disappointment. ...pleaz Sifi. ..if u read me reconsider ur decision...please 2 times!


yeahthat Solid info that's not mired in biased opinion is always welcome here. Please give us a 2nd chance. wink




I'M with u on this one....please. ...Minneapolisgenius transmit this message 2 Sifi !? Thanx
Reply #836 posted 05/02/17 1:44pm

djThunderfunk

KingSausage said:

master said:
Anyone from Warner's should be banned until they release truthful statements or stop with the cashgrab releases. They are causing a lot of disappointment.
WB can grab the fuck outta my cash as long as they keep releasing sets like this. Are they perfect? No. But it's not even $40 for the deluxe set. What the fuck.


Well said, KS!

Rather than focus on what the set doesn't include, I'll judge it by what is included and the price point.

Sure, I'd rather have an 8CD/4BD set, housed in a truly deluxe packaging that looks great displayed on a shelf and includes every possible track and video with any whatsoever relation to the Purple Rain project plus other collectible goodies like a t-shirt or reprint of the tour book. I'd gladly pay premium prices for such a release.

That said, for what IS included, I'm happy to drop less than $35 for the remaster, a disc of vault tracks, a disc of singles tracks and a DVD of the LOOOOONG out of print Syracuse show.

I get the feelings some have about the the singles tracks, but, including such things in sets like this is standard and logical and who isn't happy to finally get God Instrumental & Another Lonely Christmas Extended on CD? As for the DVD release of Syracuse, it's about fricking time! No?

I can't wait. Especially looking forward to pristine copies of Prince doing Dance Electric, Computer Blue Extended & We Can Fuck. Those 3 tracks alone make it a must have in my opinion.

cool


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We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
Reply #837 posted 05/02/17 1:57pm

NorthC

djThunderfunk said:

 



love2thenines2003 said:


minneapolisgenius said:
Hey everyone, I have a message to deliver here on behalf of Sifi: "Hi all, due to the blocking of my account, I cannot read or answer any orgnotes. The block will last another 5 days I believe. However, I will cancel my account after that time anyway. Thank you for listening. Ciao! Sifi."

What a disappointment. ...pleaz Sifi. ..if u read me reconsider ur decision...please 2 times!


yeahthat Solid info that's not mired in biased opinion is always welcome here. Please give us a 2nd chance. wink


Like I said before, it may not be Si's decision. It could be that WB doesn't want Si leaking information. Or videos. That's an explanation that would make sense to me.
Don't ever lose your dreams.
Reply #838 posted 05/02/17 3:56pm

bluegangsta

BartVanHemelen said:

bluegangsta said:

And this is yet another example of why Warners/ Estate should be woking with fans. It wouldn't s

surprise me if we have more than what they do.

.

If they can't locate the master tape in the mess that Prince's vault seems to be, then it is pointless.

There have been plenty of "Deluxe Edition" where the bonus content hasn't been sourced from a master tape.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #839 posted 05/02/17 4:11pm

dance4me3121

I wonder if best buy or Target will have a exclusive extra song if u buy the purple rain cd from their store? That's a pretty common thing now days.
Just imagine , "17 days" extended version available on purple rain cd ONLY if you buy it from best buy
Reply #840 posted 05/02/17 4:15pm

Dilan

Hey everyone, Ive been in contact sifi outside of the org after messaging them and they have let me know there will infact be an additional harcore version centred release with G-Spot, Wednesday, etc, (hasn't given me full info) Additionally there maybe a release of movie outtakes (not clear). An outtake called Amnesia, Jailbait was also mentioned as part of something unlisted from one of the 100 tracks Magnoli was claimed to be given

[Edited 5/2/17 16:15pm]

[Edited 5/2/17 16:57pm]

[Edited 5/2/17 16:59pm]

I'm feeling a bit fammy™
Reply #841 posted 05/02/17 4:26pm

leecaldon

jungleluv said:

TwiliteKid said:

jungleluv said: I don't know why some of you think that stuff belongs on this set, but it was never going to happen.

So u think that 17 days & Erotic City( which were not in Purple Rain ) should be on there as opposed 2 songs that were actually in the film???!!! Bullshit.

17 Days and Erotic City were Purple Rain b-sides. This a release of the album, not the movie.

Reply #842 posted 05/02/17 4:27pm

djThunderfunk

dance4me3121 said:

I wonder if best buy or Target will have a exclusive extra song if u buy the purple rain cd from their store? That's a pretty common thing now days. Just imagine , "17 days" extended version available on purple rain cd ONLY if you buy it from best buy


Exclusives screw fans that don't have access to the specific store.

Also, different exclusives at different stores (say 17 Days only at best buy AND Wednesday only Target) is just rude and disrepectful to collectors. They know some fans will buy multiple versions and are willing to gouge. Bad idea in an age where it's not hard to buy one version and pirate the others. As physical media becomes more and more a niche market the fans who collect should be catered to if for no other reason but to keep them. Gouging tricks would alienate many and encourage piracy.

Just sayin'... wink

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
Reply #843 posted 05/02/17 4:30pm

dance4me3121

Dilan said:

Hey everyone, Ive been in contact sifi outside of the org after messaging them and they have let me know there will infact be an additional harcore version centred release with G-Spot, Wednesday, etc, (hasn't given me full info) Additionally there maybe a release of movie outtakes (not clear). An outtake called Amnesia was also mentioned as part of something unlisted from one of the 100 tracks Magnoli was claimed to be given

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That's so awesome! I've always wanted to see the purple rain movie outtakes. Thanks for sharing the information
Reply #844 posted 05/02/17 5:40pm

blacknote

Dilan said:

Hey everyone, Ive been in contact sifi outside of the org after messaging them and they have let me know there will infact be an additional harcore version centred release with G-Spot, Wednesday, etc, (hasn't given me full info) Additionally there maybe a release of movie outtakes (not clear). An outtake called Amnesia, Jailbait was also mentioned as part of something unlisted from one of the 100 tracks Magnoli was claimed to be given

[Edited 5/2/17 16:15pm]

[Edited 5/2/17 16:57pm]

[Edited 5/2/17 16:59pm]

While not exactly concrete info, this certainly is intriguing. By "additional hardcore version", do you mean "hardcore"in terms of content or "hardcore" in terms of something for hardcore fans/historians?

It would certainly be a dream come true to see additional footage from PR. I hope Sifi is right on this one.

Reply #845 posted 05/02/17 6:01pm

bluegangsta

djThunderfunk said:

dance4me3121 said:

I wonder if best buy or Target will have a exclusive extra song if u buy the purple rain cd from their store? That's a pretty common thing now days. Just imagine , "17 days" extended version available on purple rain cd ONLY if you buy it from best buy


Exclusives screw fans that don't have access to the specific store.

Also, different exclusives at different stores (say 17 Days only at best buy AND Wednesday only Target) is just rude and disrepectful to collectors. They know some fans will buy multiple versions and are willing to gouge. Bad idea in an age where it's not hard to buy one version and pirate the others. As physical media becomes more and more a niche market the fans who collect should be catered to if for no other reason but to keep them. Gouging tricks would alienate many and encourage piracy.

Just sayin'... wink

Yep x10. But people on here will still buy it.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #846 posted 05/02/17 6:38pm

Militant

moderator

Dilan said:

Hey everyone, Ive been in contact sifi outside of the org after messaging them and they have let me know there will infact be an additional harcore version centred release with G-Spot, Wednesday, etc, (hasn't given me full info) Additionally there maybe a release of movie outtakes (not clear). An outtake called Amnesia, Jailbait was also mentioned as part of something unlisted from one of the 100 tracks Magnoli was claimed to be given



Seems unlikely.

If this were the case, those songs would be registered now. They are not.

Unless Warners are planning ANOTHER Purple Rain Deluxe release later on in the year, which would be the quickest way to piss the entire fanbase off by making us buy the same release twice in one year.

I know who Sifi is, he's a Dutch fan, but unless he can prove his link to WB, I remain sceptical.






Reply #847 posted 05/02/17 7:10pm

bluegangsta

Militant said:

I know who Sifi is, he's a Dutch fan, but unless he can prove his link to WB, I remain sceptical.

I remain skeptical too, but he did provide the First Avenue snippet, so there seems to be some level of reliability in his claims.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #848 posted 05/02/17 7:15pm

oliviacamron

jjam said:

If it can't be found in the vault, I think Jesus would want that long version of 17 Days to be leaked.


biggrin
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
Reply #849 posted 05/02/17 7:21pm

KingSausage

Militant said:

 



Dilan said:


Hey everyone, Ive been in contact sifi outside of the org after messaging them and they have let me know there will infact be an additional harcore version centred release with G-Spot, Wednesday, etc, (hasn't given me full info) Additionally there maybe a release of movie outtakes (not clear). An outtake called Amnesia, Jailbait was also mentioned as part of something unlisted from one of the 100 tracks Magnoli was claimed to be given


 






Seems unlikely. 


 


If this were the case, those songs would be registered now. They are not. 

Unless Warners are planning ANOTHER Purple Rain Deluxe release later on in the year, which would be the quickest way to piss the entire fanbase off by making us buy the same release twice in one year.

I know who Sifi is, he's a Dutch fan, but unless he can prove his link to WB, I remain sceptical. 






 




Yeah, this smells like bullshit.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #850 posted 05/02/17 8:16pm

Ugot2shakesumthin

A lot of posts for a product that both the consumer as well as the hardcore fan will ignore. All anybody cares is that a certain song or another is on Spotify.
Record sales a term from days of yore.

:wave:
Facebook is for losers.
Reply #851 posted 05/02/17 8:20pm

rdhull

minneapolisgenius said:

Hey everyone, I have a message to deliver here on behalf of Sifi: "Hi all, due to the blocking of my account, I cannot read or answer any orgnotes. The block will last another 5 days I believe. However, I will cancel my account after that time anyway. Thank you for listening. Ciao! Sifi."

Hey, dont delete your account just because of this. Just stay and be part of the conversation in general. I undertand you may have to delete the acct just do to your name and the info connection connected to it though. If not, stay.

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #852 posted 05/02/17 8:20pm

djThunderfunk

KingSausage said:

Militant said:



Seems unlikely.

If this were the case, those songs would be registered now. They are not.

Unless Warners are planning ANOTHER Purple Rain Deluxe release later on in the year, which would be the quickest way to piss the entire fanbase off by making us buy the same release twice in one year.

I know who Sifi is, he's a Dutch fan, but unless he can prove his link to WB, I remain sceptical

Yeah, this smells like bullshit.


Agreed. Sifi seems on the level but this info via Dilan... less so.

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
Reply #853 posted 05/02/17 11:42pm

RODSERLING

BartVanHemelen said:

RODSERLING said:

It would be such a smart-less and illogical decision to shot concerts only on video, even in 1985; especially from a firm/ artist that revolutionized the music industry by being #1 in album, radio, singles and theaters at the same time. I have hard time to actually believe that.

.

Based on what? Go on, list all of those concerts that were filmed on film and not on video. Doing things on film was back then a fuckload harder than video, and more expensive. Sheesh, Prince filmed SOTT on film and then had close to zero workable footage and ended up reshooting a phoney concert at PP.

Based on the fact that even in the 60's, there were concerts shot on film, that were released later on blu ray. From artists that sold way less than Prince with Purple Rain.

Reply #854 posted 05/03/17 12:31am

JorisE73

Dilan said:

Hey everyone, Ive been in contact sifi outside of the org after messaging them and they have let me know there will infact be an additional harcore version centred release with G-Spot, Wednesday, etc, (hasn't given me full info) Additionally there maybe a release of movie outtakes (not clear). An outtake called Amnesia, Jailbait was also mentioned as part of something unlisted from one of the 100 tracks Magnoli was claimed to be given

[Edited 5/2/17 16:15pm]

[Edited 5/2/17 16:57pm]

[Edited 5/2/17 16:59pm]

This sounds way to good to be true. I missed sifi's message of the First Avenue clip of Let's go crazy. Was it audio only or also video? I know that some elite traders have a copy of the mobile truck soundboard tapes could it be just a sample of that? There was a radio tribute show last year where Purple Rain was played complete from these tapes.

Reply #855 posted 05/03/17 1:01am

cbosdad

dance4me3121 said:

I wonder if best buy or Target will have a exclusive extra song if u buy the purple rain cd from their store? That's a pretty common thing now days. Just imagine , "17 days" extended version available on purple rain cd ONLY if you buy it from best buy

I know this isn't comfirmation, but the Japanese version doesn't have any bonus tracks. That's often a good indication that there won't be any store-specific exclusives. That seems to be becoming less common anyway. I may be wrong but I can't think of any recent Target, Walmart, Best Buy exclusives.

Also, if you look at discs 2 and 3, there really isn't any room for any other tracks given that a CD is potentially 80 minutes long. Those discs seem to be full. It could fit at the end of the remastered album, but it'd be weird to stick one track at the end of the original 9 tracks.

Not saying we shouldn't dream of getting everything we want from this project, but at this point I'm excited for what I know is coming. It's not perfect, but it's pretty exciting all the same.

Reply #856 posted 05/03/17 1:55am

TheEnglishGent

JorisE73 said:

Dilan said:

Hey everyone, Ive been in contact sifi outside of the org after messaging them and they have let me know there will infact be an additional harcore version centred release with G-Spot, Wednesday, etc, (hasn't given me full info) Additionally there maybe a release of movie outtakes (not clear). An outtake called Amnesia, Jailbait was also mentioned as part of something unlisted from one of the 100 tracks Magnoli was claimed to be given

[Edited 5/2/17 16:15pm]

[Edited 5/2/17 16:57pm]

[Edited 5/2/17 16:59pm]

This sounds way to good to be true. I missed sifi's message of the First Avenue clip of Let's go crazy. Was it audio only or also video? I know that some elite traders have a copy of the mobile truck soundboard tapes could it be just a sample of that? There was a radio tribute show last year where Purple Rain was played complete from these tapes.

It was a video clip. I saw it on Facebook too and the tim of the Facebook post was before Sifi's post here.

RIP sad
Reply #857 posted 05/03/17 3:40am

minneapolisgenius

Just posting on behalf of Sifi (who would post this himself if he could) to clarify that the post up there from that Dilan person is BS. He does not know him.
"I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven
Reply #858 posted 05/03/17 4:03am

TheEnglishGent

minneapolisgenius said:

Just posting on behalf of Sifi (who would post this himself if he could) to clarify that the post up there from that Dilan person is BS. He does not know him.

Thanks for clarification.

RIP sad
Reply #859 posted 05/03/17 5:29am

love2thenines2003

minneapolisgenius said:

Just posting on behalf of Sifi (who would post this himself if he could) to clarify that the post up there from that Dilan person is BS. He does not know him.

Pleaz Transmit >>can he coming back on his decison to cancel for real his count here on the Org?

thanx

Reply #860 posted 05/03/17 5:48am

laurarichardson

BartVanHemelen said:

linus4000 said:

And yes, Bart....Instead of complaining all the time like you, Prince liked to record new music all the time...

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He spent the summer ofbitching to reporters about warners not wanting to release 3EG and/or not releasing his new album fast enough, and then he couldn't be arsed to show up for the premiere of it on GMA.

Has it ever occured to you that issues with his health may have effected his behavior in the last few years. Also WB did do a bad job promoting AOA as well Prince4ever. Music sales are not what they use to be so I can see the reason there was not a big marketing campaign but I doubt Prince could see t hat.

Reply #861 posted 05/03/17 6:00am

djThunderfunk

minneapolisgenius said:

Just posting on behalf of Sifi (who would post this himself if he could) to clarify that the post up there from that Dilan person is BS. He does not know him.


Thanks for the clarification.

What's up with this Dilan? What motiates you to spread disinformation on the org and attribute it to someone else? Not cool, dude.

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
Reply #862 posted 05/03/17 6:26am

Militant

moderator

If some folks have a high quality soundboard of First Ave 1983, it's possible that clip was just the existing footage synced to the soundboard audio. The video footage itself didn't seem drastically better than what is already circulating, did it?

Reply #863 posted 05/03/17 6:31am

rdhull

Militant said:

If some folks have a high quality soundboard of First Ave 1983, it's possible that clip was just the existing footage synced to the soundboard audio. The video footage itself didn't seem drastically better than what is already circulating, did it?

To me it did. It seemed prisitne qulaity. Like the footage straight from the originally filmed/videoed source.

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #864 posted 05/03/17 6:32am

Militant

moderator

rdhull said:

Militant said:

If some folks have a high quality soundboard of First Ave 1983, it's possible that clip was just the existing footage synced to the soundboard audio. The video footage itself didn't seem drastically better than what is already circulating, did it?

To me it did. It seemed prisitne qulaity. Like the footage straight from the originally filmed/videoed source.

I wasn't blown away by the video footage in that clip. The audio was what sounded great to me.



Reply #865 posted 05/03/17 6:37am

RODSERLING

laurarichardson said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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He spent the summer ofbitching to reporters about warners not wanting to release 3EG and/or not releasing his new album fast enough, and then he couldn't be arsed to show up for the premiere of it on GMA.

Has it ever occured to you that issues with his health may have effected his behavior in the last few years. Also WB did do a bad job promoting AOA as well Prince4ever. Music sales are not what they use to be so I can see the reason there was not a big marketing campaign but I doubt Prince could see t hat.

They did everything they could to promote AOA. They even did lyrics video everytime they could with the few performances Prince did at the time.

What could you do more without Prince's involvement ?

Reply #866 posted 05/03/17 6:38am

OnlyNDaUsa

Militant said:

rdhull said:

To me it did. It seemed prisitne qulaity. Like the footage straight from the originally filmed/videoed source.

I wasn't blown away by the video footage in that clip. The audio was what sounded great to me.



To me it looks about as good as one would expect given it was low light and not meant to be sold. And that video quality as seen in that clip would be just fine for me!


"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #867 posted 05/03/17 6:48am

jaypotton

RODSERLING said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Based on what? Go on, list all of those concerts that were filmed on film and not on video. Doing things on film was back then a fuckload harder than video, and more expensive. Sheesh, Prince filmed SOTT on film and then had close to zero workable footage and ended up reshooting a phoney concert at PP.

Based on the fact that even in the 60's, there were concerts shot on film, that were released later on blu ray. From artists that sold way less than Prince with Purple Rain.

Rodserling - you cannot compare format/technology between the 60s and the 80s. Video was in a different league in the 80s compared to the 60s!

Syracuse was shot on video (pro video format, likely either Betacam or U-Matic). You can tell that simply by looking at it. Even shooting on 16mm would have had a "film feel" to it.

'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #868 posted 05/03/17 6:50am

KingSausage

Militant said:

If some folks have a high quality soundboard of First Ave 1983, it's possible that clip was just the existing footage synced to the soundboard audio. The video footage itself didn't seem drastically better than what is already circulating, did it?  




I had the same thought but I WANT TO BELIEVE.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #869 posted 05/03/17 6:51am

TheEnglishGent

Militant said:

rdhull said:

To me it did. It seemed prisitne qulaity. Like the footage straight from the originally filmed/videoed source.

I wasn't blown away by the video footage in that clip. The audio was what sounded great to me.



I agree, I would not have described the video as pristine.

RIP sad
Reply #870 posted 05/03/17 6:52am

dodger

Militant said:

If some folks have a high quality soundboard of First Ave 1983, it's possible that clip was just the existing footage synced to the soundboard audio. The video footage itself didn't seem drastically better than what is already circulating, did it?

Looked a lot better to me, like they'd had a go at digitally enchancing it

Reply #871 posted 05/03/17 6:56am

scratchtasia

cbosdad said:

I know this isn't comfirmation, but the Japanese version doesn't have any bonus tracks. That's often a good indication that there won't be any store-specific exclusives. That seems to be becoming less common anyway. I may be wrong but I can't think of any recent Target, Walmart, Best Buy exclusives.

Also, if you look at discs 2 and 3, there really isn't any room for any other tracks given that a CD is potentially 80 minutes long. Those discs seem to be full. It could fit at the end of the remastered album, but it'd be weird to stick one track at the end of the original 9 tracks.

Not saying we shouldn't dream of getting everything we want from this project, but at this point I'm excited for what I know is coming. It's not perfect, but it's pretty exciting all the same.


Target still does exclusive editions on a regular basis. Some recent examples are the latest albums from Sheryl Crow, Allison Krauss, John Mellencamp, and Gwen Stefani. They do seem to be becoming less common elsewhere--Best Buy has done them less frequently of late, and I haven't heard of any at Walmart for quite a while.


That said, I wouldn't expect any exclusive versions of this release. In fact, Target has the 2-CD version of Purple Rain up for preorder on their website, with no mention of exclusives.

Reply #872 posted 05/03/17 7:05am

TheEnglishGent

NewpowerScarfo said:

fabriziovenerandi said:

The sound quality of Electric Intercourse seems quite low to me...

Huh? Silly goose, it's not for sale yet. lol

The digital download is available for sale just about everywhere.

RIP sad
Reply #873 posted 05/03/17 7:07am

rdhull

It looked ex++ to me. I don't know what quality you guys are used to you guys must have some good shit in your stash. Whenever this gets released I'm sure everybody will be very happy with the quality


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[Edited 5/3/17 7:08am]
And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #874 posted 05/03/17 7:09am

TheEnglishGent

rdhull said:

It looked ex++ to me, he found. I don't know what quality you guys are used to you guys must have some good shit in your stash. Whenever this gets released I'm sure everybody will be very happy with the quality


My collection is mostly Blu-Ray movies, that's pristine for the moment. Don't get me wrong, all things considered, the clip did look very good.

RIP sad
Reply #875 posted 05/03/17 7:09am

RaspBerryGirlFriend

dodger said:

Militant said:

If some folks have a high quality soundboard of First Ave 1983, it's possible that clip was just the existing footage synced to the soundboard audio. The video footage itself didn't seem drastically better than what is already circulating, did it?

Looked a lot better to me, like they'd had a go at digitally enchancing it

Yeah I got that impression as well after comparing it to the Makings of Rain DVD, the colours seemed vastly better than what we've had previously

Heavenly wine and roses seems to whisper to me when you smile...
Always cry for love, never cry for pain...
Reply #876 posted 05/03/17 7:24am

Revolution81

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

dodger said:

Looked a lot better to me, like they'd had a go at digitally enchancing it

Yeah I got that impression as well after comparing it to the Makings of Rain DVD, the colours seemed vastly better than what we've had previously

I havnt checked the sample myself but has anyone compared it to the more recent "First Avenue 83 - The Right Way" boot? The video was digitally cleaned up altho the audio on that was still video sourced, so if the sample audio is soundboard it would have had to come from warners or one of the collectors that have it

Reply #877 posted 05/03/17 9:11am

Militant

moderator

Revolution81 said:

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

Yeah I got that impression as well after comparing it to the Makings of Rain DVD, the colours seemed vastly better than what we've had previously

I havnt checked the sample myself but has anyone compared it to the more recent "First Avenue 83 - The Right Way" boot? The video was digitally cleaned up altho the audio on that was still video sourced, so if the sample audio is soundboard it would have had to come from warners or one of the collectors that have it


Just compared.


The new clip is marginally better in terms of brightness, contrast and color grading, but only slightly. I'd say it's no more than a 5-10% max improvement on First Avenue The Right Way.

It's the audio that's far better, so this could still be this footage, ran through some digital enhancement filters and color grading, blended with the soundboard audio.

Not discounting the idea that WB are working on this, but this clip is far from solid proof on it's own.







Reply #878 posted 05/03/17 9:33am

sexton

minneapolisgenius said:

Just posting on behalf of Sifi (who would post this himself if he could) to clarify that the post up there from that Dilan person is BS. He does not know him.


Thanks.


Dilan said:

Hey everyone, Ive been in contact sifi outside of the org after messaging them and they have let me know there will infact be an additional harcore version centred release with G-Spot, Wednesday, etc, (hasn't given me full info) Additionally there maybe a release of movie outtakes (not clear). An outtake called Amnesia, Jailbait was also mentioned as part of something unlisted from one of the 100 tracks Magnoli was claimed to be given

[Edited 5/2/17 16:15pm]

[Edited 5/2/17 16:57pm]

[Edited 5/2/17 16:59pm]


banned

Reply #879 posted 05/03/17 9:36am

RaspBerryGirlFriend

Militant said:

Revolution81 said:

I havnt checked the sample myself but has anyone compared it to the more recent "First Avenue 83 - The Right Way" boot? The video was digitally cleaned up altho the audio on that was still video sourced, so if the sample audio is soundboard it would have had to come from warners or one of the collectors that have it


Just compared.


The new clip is marginally better in terms of brightness, contrast and color grading, but only slightly. I'd say it's no more than a 5-10% max improvement on First Avenue The Right Way.

It's the audio that's far better, so this could still be this footage, ran through some digital enhancement filters and color grading, blended with the soundboard audio.

Not discounting the idea that WB are working on this, but this clip is far from solid proof on it's own.







Ah fair enough, wasn't previously aware of The Right Way actually so thanks for this. Guess this does mean that there's a fair possibility that it was just a fan created clip after all, hope that's not the case but you're right, the clip doesn't really confirm anything.

Heavenly wine and roses seems to whisper to me when you smile...
Always cry for love, never cry for pain...
Reply #880 posted 05/03/17 9:42am

feeluupp

Militant said:

Revolution81 said:

I havnt checked the sample myself but has anyone compared it to the more recent "First Avenue 83 - The Right Way" boot? The video was digitally cleaned up altho the audio on that was still video sourced, so if the sample audio is soundboard it would have had to come from warners or one of the collectors that have it


Just compared.


The new clip is marginally better in terms of brightness, contrast and color grading, but only slightly. I'd say it's no more than a 5-10% max improvement on First Avenue The Right Way.

It's the audio that's far better, so this could still be this footage, ran through some digital enhancement filters and color grading, blended with the soundboard audio.

Not discounting the idea that WB are working on this, but this clip is far from solid proof on it's own.







.. Then why did u post on ur site and say this was the footage from WB...

Reply #881 posted 05/03/17 9:46am

OnlyNDaUsa

Militant said:

Revolution81 said:

I havnt checked the sample myself but has anyone compared it to the more recent "First Avenue 83 - The Right Way" boot? The video was digitally cleaned up altho the audio on that was still video sourced, so if the sample audio is soundboard it would have had to come from warners or one of the collectors that have it


Just compared.


The new clip is marginally better in terms of brightness, contrast and color grading, but only slightly. I'd say it's no more than a 5-10% max improvement on First Avenue The Right Way.

It's the audio that's far better, so this could still be this footage, ran through some digital enhancement filters and color grading, blended with the soundboard audio.

Not discounting the idea that WB are working on this, but this clip is far from solid proof on it's own.



And if applied to the whole thing (the copy I had was on VHS from 25 years ago) I would be more that pleased!

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #882 posted 05/03/17 12:02pm

IstenSzek

so now the thread about purple rain deluxe, which we've waited for, for well over 2 years,
and the current release of "electric intercourse" has now become a thread about a concert
that is not even in the package, and a really rather pathetic plea-fest for a user who may
or may not have had relevant information about a future release.


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #883 posted 05/03/17 12:10pm

Neversin

Comparison between Prince's raw uncleaned footage of "First Avenue 1983" in the vault (blue) and the best bootleg version (purple) and as you can see not much difference (even though pics are low quality)...


https://goo.gl/photos/CsHfiB9aYaBe5aMA8
https://goo.gl/photos/16JMgoDR3djvKP1C6
https://goo.gl/photos/2cDNjkvnnampwiCDA
https://goo.gl/photos/vr9rUYyJjCTD9QBz5
https://goo.gl/photos/8DZo8yERZkKs9Get5
https://goo.gl/photos/MdrcPEYBQcKZY7nH9

Neversin.

[Edited 5/3/17 12:11pm]

O(+>NIИ<+)O

“Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?”

- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
Reply #884 posted 05/03/17 12:43pm

rdhull

Neversin said:

Comparison between Prince's raw uncleaned footage of "First Avenue 1983" in the vault (blue) and the best bootleg version (purple) and as you can see not much difference (even though pics are low quality)...


https://goo.gl/photos/CsHfiB9aYaBe5aMA8
https://goo.gl/photos/16JMgoDR3djvKP1C6
https://goo.gl/photos/2cDNjkvnnampwiCDA
https://goo.gl/photos/vr9rUYyJjCTD9QBz5
https://goo.gl/photos/8DZo8yERZkKs9Get5
https://goo.gl/photos/MdrcPEYBQcKZY7nH9

Neversin.

[Edited 5/3/17 12:11pm]

and that LGC snippet looks 10x better than all of that

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #885 posted 05/03/17 12:58pm

nayroo2002

Yesterday i could pre-order the expanded edition on amazon from Germany.

Today it's not available???

Anyone else in Europe have this notice?

"Whatever skin Ur in
we all need 2 b friends"
Reply #886 posted 05/03/17 1:15pm

TheEnglishGent

nayroo2002 said:

Yesterday i could pre-order the expanded edition on amazon from Germany.

Today it's not available???

Anyone else in Europe have this notice?

Still available in the UK. Price for regular one has gone up to £12.99, glad I ordered at £11.99 biggrin

RIP sad
Reply #887 posted 05/03/17 1:48pm

bfunk

No one can argue that the audio is 1000x better on that snippet than what is circulating.

What might be argued is the video quality. The circulating video is definitely multi-generation VHS dubbed. There is ghosting, muddy detail, colrs are off, etc...

Now, one thing to keep in mind is that the master recording itself is 34 years old. It was probably shot on beta (still tape, not digital). Taking age into consideration, when you compare what is circulating with this snippet, the video quality is actually very much improved. The venue is obviously lowly lit so that plays a part in the overall quality. But looking at this snippet, what I see is, no ghosting at all, The colors are very close to accurate (look at Prince's guitar), but the lighting in the venue will affect that too. There is much more detail in the image. Look at Prince and Wendy's faces, the cymbal stands behind them, the shot of the crowd when the light hits them.

I created a clip of the circulating video, followed by the snippet and the improvement in video quality is very notceable to me. I would share, but doesn't seem like that is allowed.

[Edited 5/3/17 13:58pm]

Reply #888 posted 05/03/17 1:51pm

Neversin

rdhull said:

 



Neversin said:


Comparison between Prince's raw uncleaned footage of "First Avenue 1983" in the vault (blue) and the best bootleg version (purple) and as you can see not much difference (even though pics are low quality)...



https://goo.gl/photos/CsHfiB9aYaBe5aMA8
https://goo.gl/photos/16JMgoDR3djvKP1C6
https://goo.gl/photos/2cDNjkvnnampwiCDA
https://goo.gl/photos/vr9rUYyJjCTD9QBz5
https://goo.gl/photos/8DZo8yERZkKs9Get5
https://goo.gl/photos/MdrcPEYBQcKZY7nH9

Neversin.


[Edited 5/3/17 12:11pm]



 


 


and that LGC snippet looks 10x better than all of that



Hence "raw uncleaned footage"... I was asked to post these old pics because some said only Prince had the raw footage which could be cleaned... These pics prove otherwise...

Neversin.
O(+>NIИ<+)O

“Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?”

- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
Reply #889 posted 05/03/17 2:03pm

Phishanga

I actually like the blue/purple colours and the slightly crappy picture quality. Just add perfect sound to it.

Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
Reply #890 posted 05/03/17 2:07pm

KingSausage

IstenSzek said:

so now the thread about purple rain deluxe, which we've waited for, for well over 2 years,
and the current release of "electric intercourse" has now become a thread about a concert
that is not even in the package, and a really rather pathetic plea-fest for a user who may
or may not have had relevant information about a future release.





Bless the Org.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #891 posted 05/03/17 2:26pm

Militant

moderator

feeluupp said:

Militant said:


Just compared.


The new clip is marginally better in terms of brightness, contrast and color grading, but only slightly. I'd say it's no more than a 5-10% max improvement on First Avenue The Right Way.

It's the audio that's far better, so this could still be this footage, ran through some digital enhancement filters and color grading, blended with the soundboard audio.

Not discounting the idea that WB are working on this, but this clip is far from solid proof on it's own.







.. Then why did u post on ur site and say this was the footage from WB...



I said that was the rumor. Which right now, it is. We don't know either way right now. I'm just considering all (well...both of) the options.

As Neversin has just proven, others had access to the raw footage and could clean it up. We already knew some folks had the soundboard.

So as of right now, all that Sifi has, is his word. I'm not saying he is lying, nor saying he's telling the truth. Just saying that clip isn't enough to go on.



Reply #892 posted 05/03/17 2:41pm

love2thenines2003

Can we consider that these details 1st given by Sifi on this post about the Outtakes on the cd3 of PRDeluxe are B.S or straight away from his imagination?

Disc 3: From the Vault

The Dance Electric – 11:29

This song is best-known from André Cymone’s 1985 recording; Prince also occasionally performed it live.

Love & Sex – 5:00

A previously unreleased song from the Purple Rain sessions.

Computer Blue (Hallway Speech Version) – 12:18

A previously unreleased version of this track, including a section known as the “hallway speech” because it refers to a metaphorical passage through hallways marked “lust” and “fear.”

Velvet Kitty Cat – 2:42

A previously unreleased recording.

Katrina’s Paper Dolls – 3:30

A demo version of this song has circulated, but this finished master has never before been heard.

We Can Fuck – 10:17

This song was released on Graffiti Bridge as a George Clinton collaboration called “We Can Funk.” This earlier version has never before circulated at its full ten-minute length.

Electric Intercourse (Studio Version) – 4:57

Live versions of this song have circulated, but this studio recording has never before been heard — and was not even previously known to exist.

Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden – 6:25

These two songs, connected by a segue, have been performed live.

Possessed – 7:56

This song was widely performed live, and a 1984 recording has been circulated; this is an earlier, never-before-heard 1983 Prince solo version.

Wonderful Ass – 6:24

A previously unreleased collaboration with Wendy and Lisa.

Father’s Song – 5:30

One of the holy grails of Prince’s Vault, this piano piece co-written by Prince and his father is heard briefly in the film. It’s previously been heard only in an abbreviated version taken from the film — never before at its full length
Reply #893 posted 05/03/17 2:54pm

Militant

moderator

That info is generic anyway and in some cases incorrect - the demo of Katrina's hasn't circulated widely.

Reply #894 posted 05/03/17 3:22pm

Ugot2shakesumthin

Not a fan of the studio version of Electric Intercourse. The live version is much more soulful.
Facebook is for losers.
Reply #895 posted 05/03/17 4:39pm

Crump

Amazon UK now £22.99 for 3 CD's and DVD omfg




Reply #896 posted 05/03/17 5:22pm

NewpowerScarfo

TheEnglishGent said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

Huh? Silly goose, it's not for sale yet. lol

The digital download is available for sale just about everywhere.

Good lawd kind sir, you do realize how old that comment is? It pre dates when the official tracklist was revealed or on sale globally. For what it's worth, it's on sale everywhere now. Silly Goose.

Reply #897 posted 05/03/17 5:38pm

NewpowerScarfo

Neversin said:

Comparison between Prince's raw uncleaned footage of "First Avenue 1983" in the vault (blue) and the best bootleg version (purple) and as you can see not much difference (even though pics are low quality)...


https://goo.gl/photos/CsHfiB9aYaBe5aMA8
https://goo.gl/photos/16JMgoDR3djvKP1C6
https://goo.gl/photos/2cDNjkvnnampwiCDA
https://goo.gl/photos/vr9rUYyJjCTD9QBz5
https://goo.gl/photos/8DZo8yERZkKs9Get5
https://goo.gl/photos/MdrcPEYBQcKZY7nH9

Neversin.

[Edited 5/3/17 12:11pm]

All those pics looks blurry AF when compared to Sifi's snippit footage. However, I can understand Militant's point that it's still unverified info. I say IF what Sifi said happens and we get an PR expanded - expanded edition that includes even more unreleased tracks like Wednesday, Gspot, and others, then that would vindicate his claim to the iron throne of westeros...oops, I mean to being an WB insider.

[Edited 5/3/17 17:41pm]

Reply #898 posted 05/03/17 6:15pm

musicman

cbosdad said:

dance4me3121 said:

I wonder if best buy or Target will have a exclusive extra song if u buy the purple rain cd from their store? That's a pretty common thing now days. Just imagine , "17 days" extended version available on purple rain cd ONLY if you buy it from best buy

I know this isn't comfirmation, but the Japanese version doesn't have any bonus tracks. That's often a good indication that there won't be any store-specific exclusives. That seems to be becoming less common anyway. I may be wrong but I can't think of any recent Target, Walmart, Best Buy exclusives.

Also, if you look at discs 2 and 3, there really isn't any room for any other tracks given that a CD is potentially 80 minutes long. Those discs seem to be full. It could fit at the end of the remastered album, but it'd be weird to stick one track at the end of the original 9 tracks.

Not saying we shouldn't dream of getting everything we want from this project, but at this point I'm excited for what I know is coming. It's not perfect, but it's pretty exciting all the same.

Although I don't think there will be store exclusives with this. But Target does exclusive tracks all the time. Mary J Blige's new album has 2 Target bonus tracks. John Legend's new album, Nora Jones, New Kids on The BLock's new album that comes out Friday 5/12, Sheryl Crow, John Mellencamp etc...

They actually have a section with "Target exclusives" in the store.

Reply #899 posted 05/03/17 8:05pm

oliviacamron

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Not a fan of the studio version of Electric Intercourse. The live version is much more soulful.

The live version is sung with such emotion it makes me cry. The studio version is still awesome though. Especially from a female point of view. Both versions cause me to need a cold shower so to speak

I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
Reply #900 posted 05/03/17 11:11pm

TrivialPursuit

I saw a post earlier today on a FB group (so take it for what it's worth). They said they had close ties to Warner Bros. And that WB had really been listening to the fanbase (perhaps the org as well) and did want to include the First Avenue video. But the sound & color correction was taking too long, so that's why it went from 2 DVDs to 1 DVD. It seemed they still want to release it, but it will be a separate disk.

If that is true, I'm willing to wait if they can clean it up, and have a better source tape to work from. It won't be perfect, but I've seen some really shitty copies out there, although I did have a pretty decent one back in the day.

Anyway - we'll see.

"Despite everything, no 1 can dictate who u r 2 other people." - Prince |
http://bit.ly/unboxingprince
Reply #901 posted 05/03/17 11:48pm

lust

TrivialPursuit said:

I saw a post earlier today on a FB group (so take it for what it's worth).  They said they had close ties to Warner Bros.  And that WB had really been listening to the fanbase (perhaps the org as well) and did want to include the First Avenue video.  But the sound & color correction was taking too long, so that's why it went from 2 DVDs to 1 DVD.  It seemed they still want to release it, but it will be a separate disk.  

If that is true, I'm willing to wait if they can clean it up, and have a better source tape to work from.  It won't be perfect, but I've seen some really shitty copies out there, although I did have a pretty decent one back in the day.  

Anyway - we'll see.



That's what's been said here over the last week from Sifi. The source of the info is likely the same so let's hope it's true. I'm skeptical however that the video quality and duration of the show would make a stand alone realease commercially viable from a label point of view. Seems like one for the hardcore only or a nice addition to a wider project.
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
Reply #902 posted 05/03/17 11:51pm

TrivialPursuit

lust said:


That's what's been said here over the last week from Sifi. The source of the info is likely the same so let's hope it's true. I'm skeptical however that the video quality and duration of the show would make a stand alone realease commercially viable from a label point of view. Seems like one for the hardcore only or a nice addition to a wider project.


It's really a good time for them to find the opening night of the PR tour, or another PR show to put on the same disk to make it more viable.

"Despite everything, no 1 can dictate who u r 2 other people." - Prince |
http://bit.ly/unboxingprince
Reply #903 posted 05/03/17 11:59pm

JorisE73

NewpowerScarfo said:

Neversin said:

Comparison between Prince's raw uncleaned footage of "First Avenue 1983" in the vault (blue) and the best bootleg version (purple) and as you can see not much difference (even though pics are low quality)...


https://goo.gl/photos/CsHfiB9aYaBe5aMA8
https://goo.gl/photos/16JMgoDR3djvKP1C6
https://goo.gl/photos/2cDNjkvnnampwiCDA
https://goo.gl/photos/vr9rUYyJjCTD9QBz5
https://goo.gl/photos/8DZo8yERZkKs9Get5" target="_blank">;t https://goo.gl/photos/8DZo8yERZkKs9Get5
https://goo.gl/photos/MdrcPEYBQcKZY7nH9

Neversin.

[Edited 5/3/17 12:11pm]

All those pics looks blurry AF when compared to Sifi's snippit footage. However, I can understand Militant's point that it's still unverified info. I say IF what Sifi said happens and we get an PR expanded - expanded edition that includes even more unreleased tracks like Wednesday, Gspot, and others, then that would vindicate his claim to the iron throne of westeros...oops, I mean to being an WB insider.

[Edited 5/3/17 17:41pm]

I think he means to say that Prince's version of the tape isn;t the only source that can be cleaned. I believe the Makings of Rain version is the purple one whcih I think was T's version so maybe that one was a direct copy of Prince's version which was cleaned, brightend and purple-ized. I heard the original tape is in the hands of someone who worked at First Avenue, maybe that version is the one being worked on to clean up. Maybe the guy from Minneapolis who provided the Purple Rain version from the mobile truck soundboard for that tribute radio show also has the master video and WB is working with this guy.

Reply #904 posted 05/04/17 12:07am

lust

TrivialPursuit said:

 



lust said:


 
That's what's been said here over the last week from Sifi. The source of the info is likely the same so let's hope it's true. I'm skeptical however that the video quality and duration of the show would make a stand alone realease commercially viable from a label point of view. Seems like one for the hardcore only or a nice addition to a wider project.


It's really a good time for them to find the opening night of the PR tour, or another PR show to put on the same disk to make it more viable.



Yep. That's my hope. The fact that they can't tack it now means they need to put something else out with it. My fear, it will stay on the shelf.

I think there needs to be two streams for releases. One, the polished mainstream
marketable stuff and then the stuff that we'll buy every damn week. The Elvis estate do that.
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
Reply #905 posted 05/04/17 3:08am

master

KingSausage said:

IstenSzek said:

so now the thread about purple rain deluxe, which we've waited for, for well over 2 years,
and the current release of "electric intercourse" has now become a thread about a concert
that is not even in the package, and a really rather pathetic plea-fest for a user who may
or may not have had relevant information about a future release.


giphy_zpsis2hulrl.gif

Bless the Org.

If you worked for warners and said what is the least they could get away with. There purple rain deluxe would be it.

. They probably felt by their standards 1 cd and 1 dvd of unreleased stuff would too much for us . Think about this how much commercial success would syracuse and alot of 7inch edits be as a stand alone releases. none . They probably feel they can scrape another release out of first avenue 83 as it is a legendary show . They may even do it as a cd and dvd releases . It just shows how low the excitement levels can get when all the talk is about first avenue 83. Anyone on here could make a more exciting release out of pr deluxe than this. They have had ages to get this ready. For me they are completely milking the releases with far too much rehash anyone who can not see it is a muppet

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Reply #906 posted 05/04/17 3:14am

TheEnglishGent

master said:

Anyone on here could made a more exciting releasae out of pr deluxe than this.


Absolutely 100% agree with this. However...

I'd have to charge more for that release than they are charing for this one. That is why I'm not too bothered at the moment. What's being offered is being put out at a reasonable price. On Amazon UK, a new CD is £9.99. So for my money, I'm getting the new CD of vault material and paying an extra £2 for the remastered PR and I've really got no problem with this as I'd pay the total price just for the vault disc.

RIP sad
Reply #907 posted 05/04/17 3:24am

master

TheEnglishGent said:

master said:

Anyone on here could made a more exciting releasae out of pr deluxe than this.


Absolutely 100% agree with this. However...

I'd have to charge more for that release than they are charing for this one. That is why I'm not too bothered at the moment. What's being offered is being put out at a reasonable price. On Amazon UK, a new CD is £9.99. So for my money, I'm getting the new CD of vault material and paying an extra £2 for the remastered PR and I've really got no problem with this as I'd pay the total price just for the vault

Hopefully that sifi guy will not comeback. Tired of excuses for disappointing releases. He should get an apology from Warner's for missing an open goal with this release. Warners need to put more effort in in future .

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Reply #908 posted 05/04/17 4:48am

tbokris

I think the PR boxset could have been bigger and more exciting. Imagine if it included all the outtakes and songs he worked on before from 77-83 and then also some post-PR stuff such as Parade up until 1994?

Reply #909 posted 05/04/17 5:48am

leecaldon

tbokris said:

I think the PR boxset could have been bigger and more exciting. Imagine if it included all the outtakes and songs he worked on before from 77-83 and then also some post-PR stuff such as Parade up until 1994?


That wouldn't really be a PR boxset anymore would it? Just a Warner years collection.

Reply #910 posted 05/04/17 5:49am

thisisreece

tbokris said:

I think the PR boxset could have been bigger and more exciting. Imagine if it included all the outtakes and songs he worked on before from 77-83 and then also some post-PR stuff such as Parade up until 1994?

Imagine if it included all the unreleased songs he ever recorded.

Hundalasiliah!
Reply #911 posted 05/04/17 5:52am

NewpowerScarfo

JorisE73 said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

All those pics looks blurry AF when compared to Sifi's snippit footage. However, I can understand Militant's point that it's still unverified info. I say IF what Sifi said happens and we get an PR expanded - expanded edition that includes even more unreleased tracks like Wednesday, Gspot, and others, then that would vindicate his claim to the iron throne of westeros...oops, I mean to being an WB insider.

[Edited 5/3/17 17:41pm]

I think he means to say that Prince's version of the tape isn;t the only source that can be cleaned. I believe the Makings of Rain version is the purple one whcih I think was T's version so maybe that one was a direct copy of Prince's version which was cleaned, brightend and purple-ized. I heard the original tape is in the hands of someone who worked at First Avenue, maybe that version is the one being worked on to clean up. Maybe the guy from Minneapolis who provided the Purple Rain version from the mobile truck soundboard for that tribute radio show also has the master video and WB is working with this guy.

I know, I was agreeing with Neversin's point.

[Edited 5/4/17 6:10am]

Reply #912 posted 05/04/17 8:02am

Neversin

rdhull said:

and that LGC snippet looks 10x better than all of that



These comparison pictures were made 11 years ago...
I just did a comparison of the "Let's Go Crazy" "cleaned" sample that was posted here and the VHS version used for the "Makings Of Rain" DVDR (the blue Prince version, not the purple enhanced version) and the difference is extremely minimal to non-existent...
The sample isn't sharper nor are the colours any different, if Warners was doing this release they would do a better job in cleaning this or actually DO a clean up job, the sample only has the soundboard track synced (badly) to the video... Watch the sample in fullscreen and then do a comparison at the same resolution with "The Makings Of Rain" DVDR and the only difference you'll notice is the brightness and contrast which is minimal...
The smaller video frame of this "cleaned" sample is deceiving your eyes...

IMO WBR isn't doing shit with this show and the sample is just some fanmade hoax to get fans riled up for nothing...

Neversin.

[Edited 5/4/17 8:04am]

O(+>NIИ<+)O

“Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?”

- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
Reply #913 posted 05/04/17 8:09am

rdhull

Neversin said:

rdhull said:

and that LGC snippet looks 10x better than all of that



These comparison pictures were made 11 years ago...
I just did a comparison of the "Let's Go Crazy" "cleaned" sample that was posted here and the VHS version used for the "Makings Of Rain" DVDR (the blue Prince version, not the purple enhanced version) and the difference is extremely minimal to non-existent...
The sample isn't sharper nor are the colours any different, if Warners was doing this release they would do a better job in cleaning this or actually DO a clean up job, the sample only has the soundboard track synced (badly) to the video... Watch the sample in fullscreen and then do a comparison at the same resolution with "The Makings Of Rain" DVDR and the only difference you'll notice is the brightness and contrast which is minimal...
The smaller video frame of this "cleaned" sample is deceiving your eyes...

IMO WBR isn't doing shit with this show and the sample is just some fanmade hoax to get fans riled up for nothing...

Neversin.

[Edited 5/4/17 8:04am]

I felt that snippet going around was better than the examples you showed of the differences. Not that the og was worse or better than whats out there etc. But the example that was shown and deleted shows that SOMEONE out there has it. Its a shame if it isnt really being worked on by WB etc or the powers that be to have it released.

Im tripping that everyone here is saying that snippet was ho hum quality lol. I have a cover pic of a screen cap from that show in ex quality. Of course its from the actual photographer who was there at that performance. Seems like the snippet was of the same ex quality

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #914 posted 05/04/17 8:22am

Neversin

rdhull said:

But the example that was shown and deleted shows that SOMEONE out there has it. Its a shame if it isnt really being worked on by WB etc or the powers that be to have it released.

Im tripping that everyone here is saying that snippet was ho hum quality lol.


All fans out there have it who have "The Makings Of Rain" DVDR save for the audio...
People who criticise the quality of the sample have compared it to what they have ("The Makings Of Rain") and that isn't too much quality wise...
Rumour has it that the owner of First Avenue has the original tape (and that of the 1986 Parade gig)...
My guess is it won't be long before the soundboard audio of the 1983 show will be widely spread since it's already being shopped around and traded like fuck... Panic is spreading amongst some traders who can't keep their cool thanks to that sample...

Neversin.

O(+>NIИ<+)O

“Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?”

- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
Reply #915 posted 05/04/17 8:27am

rdhull

Neversin said:

rdhull said:

But the example that was shown and deleted shows that SOMEONE out there has it. Its a shame if it isnt really being worked on by WB etc or the powers that be to have it released.

Im tripping that everyone here is saying that snippet was ho hum quality lol.


All fans out there have it who have "The Makings Of Rain" DVDR save for the audio...
People who criticise the quality of the sample have compared it to what they have ("The Makings Of Rain") and that isn't too much quality wise...
Rumour has it that the owner of First Avenue has the original tape (and that of the 1986 Parade gig)...
My guess is it won't be long before the soundboard audio of the 1983 show will be widely spread since it's already being shopped around and traded like fuck... Panic is spreading amongst some traders who can't keep their cool thanks to that sample...

Neversin.

On the strength of this thread, I went to my local rec store yesterday looking for this Makings Of Rain thing (they carry a lot of..live imports/dvds lol) but they didnt have it. Yet.

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #916 posted 05/04/17 8:49am

Neversin

rdhull said:

 



Neversin said:


 



rdhull said:


 


But the example that was shown and deleted shows that SOMEONE out there has it. Its a shame if it isnt really being worked on by WB etc or the powers that be to have it released. 

 


Im tripping that everyone here is saying that snippet was ho hum quality lol.


 




All fans out there have it who have "The Makings Of Rain" DVDR save for the audio...
People who criticise the quality of the sample have compared it to what they have ("The Makings Of Rain") and that isn't too much quality wise...
Rumour has it that the owner of First Avenue has the original tape (and that of the 1986 Parade gig)...
My guess is it won't be long before the soundboard audio of the 1983 show will be widely spread since it's already being shopped around and traded like fuck... Panic is spreading amongst some traders who can't keep their cool thanks to that sample...

Neversin.



 


On the strength of this thread, I went to my local rec store yesterday looking for this Makings Of Rain thing (they carry a  lot of..live imports/dvds lol) but they didnt have it. Yet. 



It was a free release by FDA/Fullasoul/Superball... Don't pay for it...
And if Warners was seriously doing this show I would expect them to find the original editor(s) of the show, the tapes from all camera's used and then do a re-edit...

Neversin.
O(+>NIИ<+)O

“Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?”

- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
Reply #917 posted 05/04/17 9:00am

rdhull

Ok, just looked up Makings Of Rain and saw some clips. Now I see what you guys are talking about. Some portions seem like it ws from the good parts of Makings. My dumbass been out of the loop and been thinkin the best out there was the old vhs shit we all have from our first time lol.

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #918 posted 05/04/17 9:01am

rusty1

I wonder if the June 7, 1984 B-Day show
will get released, One Day.
I've worn that soundboard out so much since
last year.
It deserves to be out there on video.
What a classic show set a few weeks before
the Purple Rain album came out.
His 26 B-Day had to be the happiest time
In his life.
Is there a video of this show?
I've seen a ton of pics from this First
avenue concert.
BOB4theFUNK
Reply #919 posted 05/04/17 9:30am

purplethunder3121

rusty1 said:

I wonder if the June 7, 1984 B-Day show will get released, One Day. I've worn that soundboard out so much since last year. It deserves to be out there on video. What a classic show set a few weeks before the Purple Rain album came out. His 26 B-Day had to be the happiest time In his life. Is there a video of this show? I've seen a ton of pics from this First avenue concert.

I wish! This is the show I pobably listen to the most. Something In The Water on this is completely out of this world...

Find strength in that which remains...
Reply #920 posted 05/04/17 9:31am

homesquid

Looks like the 2 CD package for me. The third disc is obnoxious with the edits and repeats. Should have been all extended versions only but they ARE collectors/completists out there that want this stuff and WB probably knows that.

The DVD? Well if the quality is really good maybe I'll cave but the VHS has always looked like shite. Like all y'all I was really hoping for either video or audio of the 1st Avenue gig sad

Reply #921 posted 05/04/17 9:48am

OnlyNDaUsa

homesquid said:

Looks like the 2 CD package for me. The third disc is obnoxious with the edits and repeats. Should have been all extended versions only but they ARE collectors/completists out there that want this stuff and WB probably knows that.

The DVD? Well if the quality is really good maybe I'll cave but the VHS has always looked like shite. Like all y'all I was really hoping for either video or audio of the 1st Avenue gig sad

except it left off the other 4 edits of purple rain...

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #922 posted 05/04/17 10:22am

bfunk

I really don't want to belabor the discussion about the clip from Sifi, and what is circulating (Makings of the Rain DVD), but I do want to point out a very important differnce in the 2.



As the Sifi clip begins it fades into a shot of Prince sliding up his guitar, and then transitions to a shot of him from behind/side of him.



If you compare this same section to what is on The Makings Of The Rain DVD, you will notice that the shot of prince sliding up his guitar has a tracking issue. The video goes static and then gray, then comes back and transitions to the shot from behind/side. This proves that the source of this is most likely a multi-generation VHS dub.



Thsi isn't a huge deal, but I do think it proves that whatever Sifi put out there is from a different and cleaner source.



I still stand by my thoughts on the improvements overall on Sifi's clip too. There is minimal ghosting, color is better. The blacks are black, the details are more crisp and not muddy like what is circulating.



Willing to share a back to back comparison for those interested.

[Edited 5/4/17 10:33am]

Reply #923 posted 05/04/17 10:27am

Doozer

Does anyone else wonder why they're including a DVD…a nearly dead format? 720 x 480 pixel resolution on a DVD is half the resolution of your average YouTube blog.

I understand that there are limits with the source material…but what young fan out there has a DVD player?

Reply #924 posted 05/04/17 10:32am

novabrkr

Doozer said:

Does anyone else wonder why they're including a DVD…a nearly dead format? 720 x 480 pixel resolution on a DVD is half the resolution of your average YouTube blog.

I understand that there are limits with the source material…but what young fan out there has a DVD player?


They're still fairly commonly found on PCs (desktop and laptop). The CD drives on them play DVDs too.

Reply #925 posted 05/04/17 10:34am

rdhull

bfunk said:

I really don't want to belabor the discussion about the clip from Sifi, and what is circulating (Makings of the Rain DVD), but I do want to point out a very important differnce in the 2.


 


 


As the Sifi clip begins it fades into a shot of Prince sliding up his guitar, adn then transitions to a shot of him from behind/side of him.


 


 


If you compare this same section to what is on The Makings Of The Rain DVD, you will notice that the shot of prince sliding up his guitar has a tracking issue. The video goes static and then gray, then comes back and transitions to the shot from behind/side. This proves that the source of this is most likely a multi-generation VHS dub.


 


 


Thsi isn't a huge deal, but I do think it proves that whatever Sifi put out there is from a different and cleaner source.


 


 


I still stand by my thoughts on the improvements overall on Sifi's clip too. There is minimal ghosting, color is better. The blacks are black, the details are more crisp and not muddy like what is circulating.


 


 


Willing to share a back to back comparison for those interested.


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[Edited 5/4/17 10:26am]



Damn it! Why did u wait to post this after I already acquiesced? lol
And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #926 posted 05/04/17 10:54am

FragileUndertow

Neversin said:



The sample only has the soundboard track synced (badly) to the video...

I noticed this too, but wasn't sure
Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

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I will take my place, In the great below
Reply #927 posted 05/04/17 10:55am

Neversin

bfunk said:

I really don't want to belabor the discussion about the clip from Sifi, and what is circulating (Makings of the Rain DVD), but I do want to point out a very important differnce in the 2.


 


 


As the Sifi clip begins it fades into a shot of Prince sliding up his guitar, adn then transitions to a shot of him from behind/side of him.


 


 


If you compare this same section to what is on The Makings Of The Rain DVD, you will notice that the shot of prince sliding up his guitar has a tracking issue. The video goes static and then gray, then comes back and transitions to the shot from behind/side. This proves that the source of this is most likely a multi-generation VHS dub.


 


 


Thsi isn't a huge deal, but I do think it proves that whatever Sifi put out there is from a different and cleaner source.


 


 


I still stand by my thoughts on the improvements overall on Sifi's clip too. There is minimal ghosting, color is better. The blacks are black, the details are more crisp and not muddy like what is circulating.


 


 


Willing to share a back to back comparison for those interested.


[Edited 5/4/17 10:23am]

[Edited 5/4/17 10:26am]



There are multiple low generation copies of this show with grey dropouts in different parts of the show; I have 3 versions on VHS: 1 copy is horrible almost black and white but doesn't have the warbled dropout at the beginning of "When U Were Mine", another one doesn't have the dropout you speak of that is on "The Makings Of Rain", it does however have a millisecond brief grey flash 5 seconds before the first verse of "Purple Rain" which isn't on "The Makings Of Rain" and then there's the copy which is exactly like "The Makings Of Rain"... So maybe it's a cleaner source or it's the same as one of the sources I have which have all been circulating since the 1990's... For a version without dropouts either the original tapes should be used and re-edited because I was told the original also has dropouts or someone should "Frankenstein" a version of all available sources...

Neversin.
O(+>NIИ<+)O

“Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?”

- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
Reply #928 posted 05/04/17 10:58am

Neversin

Doozer said:

Does anyone else wonder why they're including a DVD…a nearly dead format? 720 x 480 pixel resolution on a DVD is half the resolution of your average YouTube blog.

I understand that there are limits with the source material…but what young fan out there has a DVD player? 



Just for proper lossless audio alone at least bluray should be used...
Most young fans will probably have an xbox or playstation or bluray player to play dvd's on...

Neversin.
O(+>NIИ<+)O

“Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?”

- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
Reply #929 posted 05/04/17 11:02am

djThunderfunk

Neversin said:

Doozer said:

Does anyone else wonder why they're including a DVD…a nearly dead format? 720 x 480 pixel resolution on a DVD is half the resolution of your average YouTube blog.

I understand that there are limits with the source material…but what young fan out there has a DVD player?

Just for proper lossless audio alone at least bluray should be used... Most young fans will probably have an xbox or playstation or bluray player to play dvd's on... Neversin.


I would agree, except I'm pretty sure they could do lossless PCM audio on a DVD. No?

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
Reply #930 posted 05/04/17 11:23am

Neversin

djThunderfunk said:

 



Neversin said:


Doozer said:

Does anyone else wonder why they're including a DVD…a nearly dead format? 720 x 480 pixel resolution on a DVD is half the resolution of your average YouTube blog.

I understand that there are limits with the source material…but what young fan out there has a DVD player? 



Just for proper lossless audio alone at least bluray should be used... Most young fans will probably have an xbox or playstation or bluray player to play dvd's on... Neversin.


I would agree, except I'm pretty sure they could do lossless PCM audio on a DVD. No?



Depends on the size needed for watchable video I guess...

Neversin.
O(+>NIИ<+)O

“Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?”

- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
Reply #931 posted 05/04/17 11:34am

TrivialPursuit

Neversin said:

Doozer said:

Does anyone else wonder why they're including a DVD…a nearly dead format? 720 x 480 pixel resolution on a DVD is half the resolution of your average YouTube blog.

I understand that there are limits with the source material…but what young fan out there has a DVD player?

Just for proper lossless audio alone at least bluray should be used... Most young fans will probably have an xbox or playstation or bluray player to play dvd's on... Neversin.


DVD sales are still strong in the US, and frankly it's easier to include a DVD w/ a CD than to get someone to buy it alone, especially for music fans. I don't like everything digital-only. Shit gets lost, hacked, etc. But a DVD is there for ya, like a your bed, or a dildo.

As you noted: You can't increase an old BETA or VHS original to 1920x1080 without significant change in quality. The 720 is a stretch, but much more reasonable to try and master it into an HD format. It just never translates that well, depending.

And Neversin has a good point. There is always going to be a DVD player with on a computer or a gaming system. We still have bluray players in every room. And although digital is popular, they've really not put out 3D digital. Other people have mimicked it and it works if your TV has a "make 3D" type setting. But those 4K 3D blurays sell to those who want that.

So - in short, there's a demographic for any format. Some would say CDs are dying, but I would bet the vast majority of the Org folks will pick up the physical format, and not digital.

"Despite everything, no 1 can dictate who u r 2 other people." - Prince |
http://bit.ly/unboxingprince
Reply #932 posted 05/04/17 11:44am

dance4me3121

Doozer said:

Does anyone else wonder why they're including a DVD…a nearly dead format? 720 x 480 pixel resolution on a DVD is half the resolution of your average YouTube blog.

I understand that there are limits with the source material…but what young fan out there has a DVD player? 


I'm a young fan and own both a Blu-ray player and PlayStation 4.Both systems can play DVDs
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Reply #933 posted 05/04/17 1:09pm

djThunderfunk

Neversin said:

djThunderfunk said:


I would agree, except I'm pretty sure they could do lossless PCM audio on a DVD. No?

Depends on the size needed for watchable video I guess... Neversin.


I've got some music DVDs that have room for both PCM & DD5.1, so, I think it would fit.

If I'm wrong, then I'm with you. Lossless audio is a must, if it takes a bluray to fit then a bluray it should be. wink

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
Reply #934 posted 05/04/17 3:11pm

MIRvmn

novabrkr said:

 



Doozer said:


Does anyone else wonder why they're including a DVD…a nearly dead format? 720 x 480 pixel resolution on a DVD is half the resolution of your average YouTube blog.

I understand that there are limits with the source material…but what young fan out there has a DVD player? 




They're still fairly commonly found on PCs (desktop and laptop). The CD drives on them play DVDs too.


Most laptops on the market doesn't have any optical drive these days so u have to buy an external DVD drive. Young fans can play the DVD in their ps4 and xbox one but I don't think there's any high demand for DVDs in 2017
Thunder, all through the night
Promise to see Jesus in the morning light
Take my hand, it'll be alright
C'mon save your soul tonight
Reply #935 posted 05/04/17 3:17pm

rdhull

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7784716/prince-estate-purple-rain-concert-film-documentary-streaming-services

Prince Estate Shopping New 'Purple Rain' Concert Film, Documentary to Streaming Services: Sources

Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images
Prince performs at the Fabulous Forum on Feb. 19, 1985 in Inglewood, Calif.

In one of his first dealings as an advisor to the Prince estate, Spotify executive Troy Carter is helping negotiate a deal that could give one major streaming service exclusive rights to one of the late pop star’s unreleased concert films as well as rights to make a documentary about the film, sources tell Billboard.

The lucky streaming service isn’t likely to be Carter’s employer, though: the estate is talking to a range of Spotify’s rivals including Apple Music, sources say.

The potential multimillion-dollar deal, which hasn’t yet been completed, could be the latest prize in the competition among streaming companies, a battle that has been ratcheting up lately as top players shell out millions for exclusive content that can help them stand out from the pack.

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
Reply #936 posted 05/04/17 3:41pm

tmcjb

I noticed the tracks on the regular vinyl say "2015 Paisley Park Remaster", while the picture disc tracks say "2014 Remastered Version". I wonder how much of a difference there is, if there is any at all.

"Like the drummer said, you got to die."
Reply #937 posted 05/04/17 4:06pm

purplethunder3121

tmcjb said:

I noticed the tracks on the regular vinyl say "2015 Paisley Park Remaster", while the picture disc tracks say "2014 Remastered Version". I wonder how much of a difference there is, if there is any at all.

People don't usually play picture discs, do they? lol

Find strength in that which remains...
Reply #938 posted 05/04/17 5:43pm

bobgeorge77

tmcjb said:

I noticed the tracks on the regular vinyl say "2015 Paisley Park Remaster", while the picture disc tracks say "2014 Remastered Version". I wonder how much of a difference there is, if there is any at all.

That's a good question. I was wondering how the new remastered lp will compare with the remastered lp that just came out last year...

Reply #939 posted 05/04/17 6:04pm

KingSausage

purplethunder3121 said:

 



tmcjb said:


I noticed the tracks on the regular vinyl say "2015 Paisley Park Remaster", while the picture disc tracks say "2014 Remastered Version". I wonder how much of a difference there is, if there is any at all.



People don't usually play picture discs, do they? lol




They do. But those discs often sound like ass.
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Reply #940 posted 05/04/17 6:07pm

purplethunder3121

KingSausage said:

purplethunder3121 said:

People don't usually play picture discs, do they? lol

They do. But those discs often sound like ass.

Wow, I always hung mine on the wall. Never bought one to listen to.

Find strength in that which remains...
Reply #941 posted 05/04/17 6:55pm

djThunderfunk

rdhull said:

Prince Estate Shopping New 'Purple Rain' Concert Film, Documentary to Streaming Services: Sources


If they want my money, they'll also offer a physical release.


[Edited 5/4/17 18:55pm]

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Reply #942 posted 05/04/17 7:03pm

dance4me3121

djThunderfunk said:

 



rdhull said:


Prince Estate Shopping New 'Purple Rain' Concert Film, Documentary to Streaming Services: Sources


 




If they want my money, they'll also offer a physical release.


[Edited 5/4/17 18:55pm]


Yeah me 2!
Reply #943 posted 05/04/17 7:33pm

NewpowerScarfo

djThunderfunk said:

rdhull said:

Prince Estate Shopping New 'Purple Rain' Concert Film, Documentary to Streaming Services: Sources


If they want my money, they'll also offer a physical release.


[Edited 5/4/17 18:55pm]

Word. (folks still say "word", right? )

Reply #944 posted 05/04/17 7:50pm

Doozer

TrivialPursuit said:

 



Neversin said:


Doozer said:

Does anyone else wonder why they're including a DVD…a nearly dead format? 720 x 480 pixel resolution on a DVD is half the resolution of your average YouTube blog.

I understand that there are limits with the source material…but what young fan out there has a DVD player? 



Just for proper lossless audio alone at least bluray should be used... Most young fans will probably have an xbox or playstation or bluray player to play dvd's on... Neversin.


DVD sales are still strong in the US, and frankly it's easier to include a DVD w/ a CD than to get someone to buy it alone, especially for music fans.  I don't like everything digital-only.  Shit gets lost, hacked, etc.  But a DVD is there for ya, like a your bed, or a dildo.

As you noted:  You can't increase an old BETA or VHS original to 1920x1080 without significant change in quality.  The 720 is a stretch, but much more reasonable to try and master it into an HD format.  It just never translates that well, depending.

And Neversin has a good point.  There is always going to be a DVD player with on a computer or a gaming system.  We still have bluray players in every room.  And although digital is popular, they've really not put out 3D digital.  Other people have mimicked it and it works if your TV has a "make 3D" type setting.  But those 4K 3D blurays sell to those who want that.  

So - in short, there's a demographic for any format.  Some would say CDs are dying, but I would bet the vast majority of the Org folks will pick up the physical format, and not digital.



I'm not against a physical format - it's what I'd prefer myself. I just think that in 5-6 years, this DVD release of the Syracuse show is going to be as easy to play as the VHS copy I have now.
Reply #945 posted 05/04/17 8:14pm

djThunderfunk

Doozer said:

TrivialPursuit said:


DVD sales are still strong in the US, and frankly it's easier to include a DVD w/ a CD than to get someone to buy it alone, especially for music fans. I don't like everything digital-only. Shit gets lost, hacked, etc. But a DVD is there for ya, like a your bed, or a dildo.

As you noted: You can't increase an old BETA or VHS original to 1920x1080 without significant change in quality. The 720 is a stretch, but much more reasonable to try and master it into an HD format. It just never translates that well, depending.

And Neversin has a good point. There is always going to be a DVD player with on a computer or a gaming system. We still have bluray players in every room. And although digital is popular, they've really not put out 3D digital. Other people have mimicked it and it works if your TV has a "make 3D" type setting. But those 4K 3D blurays sell to those who want that.

So - in short, there's a demographic for any format. Some would say CDs are dying, but I would bet the vast majority of the Org folks will pick up the physical format, and not digital.

I'm not against a physical format - it's what I'd prefer myself. I just think that in 5-6 years, this DVD release of the Syracuse show is going to be as easy to play as the VHS copy I have now.


Nah!

DVD's play on DVD Players, Bluray Players, computer disc drives and all gaming systems.
VHS only play on VHS players.

In 5-6 years it will still not be difficult or expensive to lay hands on a player.

Not only that, it's also as easy to rip a DVD as it is a CD. Once a physical copy is in my collection I'll be backing up a digital copy on a hard drive and having my cake and eating it too... wink


We were HERE, where were you?

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Reply #946 posted 05/04/17 8:30pm

Ugot2shakesumthin

The more I hear the words "the estate" the more I hate them. Just let warners or Universal handle the milking of his music. Let the professional hyenas handle it and them not worry their desperate pretty heads
Facebook is for losers.
Reply #947 posted 05/05/17 12:50am

JorisE73

Neversin said:

rdhull said:

But the example that was shown and deleted shows that SOMEONE out there has it. Its a shame if it isnt really being worked on by WB etc or the powers that be to have it released.

Im tripping that everyone here is saying that snippet was ho hum quality lol.


All fans out there have it who have "The Makings Of Rain" DVDR save for the audio...
People who criticise the quality of the sample have compared it to what they have ("The Makings Of Rain") and that isn't too much quality wise...
Rumour has it that the owner of First Avenue has the original tape (and that of the 1986 Parade gig)...
My guess is it won't be long before the soundboard audio of the 1983 show will be widely spread since it's already being shopped around and traded like fuck... Panic is spreading amongst some traders who can't keep their cool thanks to that sample...

Neversin.

So with the news that the estate is offering it to streaming services how likely is it we'll be seeing this soon from elite collectors?????

Reply #948 posted 05/05/17 12:59am

JorisE73

Neversin said:

bfunk said:

I really don't want to belabor the discussion about the clip from Sifi, and what is circulating (Makings of the Rain DVD), but I do want to point out a very important differnce in the 2.

As the Sifi clip begins it fades into a shot of Prince sliding up his guitar, adn then transitions to a shot of him from behind/side of him.

If you compare this same section to what is on The Makings Of The Rain DVD, you will notice that the shot of prince sliding up his guitar has a tracking issue. The video goes static and then gray, then comes back and transitions to the shot from behind/side. This proves that the source of this is most likely a multi-generation VHS dub.

Thsi isn't a huge deal, but I do think it proves that whatever Sifi put out there is from a different and cleaner source.

I still stand by my thoughts on the improvements overall on Sifi's clip too. There is minimal ghosting, color is better. The blacks are black, the details are more crisp and not muddy like what is circulating.

Willing to share a back to back comparison for those interested.

[Edited 5/4/17 10:23am]

[Edited 5/4/17 10:26am]

There are multiple low generation copies of this show with grey dropouts in different parts of the show; I have 3 versions on VHS: 1 copy is horrible almost black and white but doesn't have the warbled dropout at the beginning of "When U Were Mine", another one doesn't have the dropout you speak of that is on "The Makings Of Rain", it does however have a millisecond brief grey flash 5 seconds before the first verse of "Purple Rain" which isn't on "The Makings Of Rain" and then there's the copy which is exactly like "The Makings Of Rain"... So maybe it's a cleaner source or it's the same as one of the sources I have which have all been circulating since the 1990's... For a version without dropouts either the original tapes should be used and re-edited because I was told the original also has dropouts or someone should "Frankenstein" a version of all available sources... Neversin.

So the estate is now offering a version from PRince's vault, the original tapes are either lost or in the hands of someone other than the estate. If the estate makes a deal with say Netflix then who will handle the cleaning of the footage? Is this something Netflix will do or does the estate need to do this before offering it to them? And if the footage in Prince's vault isn't much better than what we already have except for the sound quality, how interested will the streaming services be?

Reply #949 posted 05/05/17 1:12am

TheEnglishGent

NewpowerScarfo said:

djThunderfunk said:


If they want my money, they'll also offer a physical release.


[Edited 5/4/17 18:55pm]

Word. (folks still say "word", right? )



Old folks do. I'm running into things like this more and more these days.




RIP sad
Reply #950 posted 05/05/17 7:10am

Ugot2shakesumthin

I never even added "Electric Intercourse" to my Spotify. Listened to it, know it's there if I want to listen to again. I'll add whatever unreleased tracks I like, but that's as far as most folks are going to go to "purchase" this release.

It's all about track streams now.

When I was a kid you could go to a Warehouse music store and listen to albums track by track in a little kiosk on an end-cap and wondered out loud why we couldn't just get the exact tracks we wanted instead of the whole album.

Thankfully that day has come.
Thankfully for me as a consumer, not so much for the labels or artists. If Prince was still around I would make sure to support him by going to his shows and stream his songs I like through Spotify. All I can do is stream his tracks now, but I could care less where the money goes. Someone is getting paid.

Facebook is for losers.
Reply #951 posted 05/05/17 12:28pm

tonybibb

KingSausage said:

purplethunder3121 said:

People don't usually play picture discs, do they? lol

They do. But those discs often sound like ass.

Can't find any info as to if or when there will be a full "deluxe" version on vinyl...anyone know?

must be something in the water they drink..
Reply #952 posted 05/05/17 12:34pm

djThunderfunk

tonybibb said:

KingSausage said:

purplethunder3121 said: They do. But those discs often sound like ass.

Can't find any info as to if or when there will be a full "deluxe" version on vinyl...anyone know?


Pretty sure that as of now this hasn't been offered or announced. Wouldn't be surprised to see it added though. It's a no-brainer... wink

We were HERE, where were you?

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Reply #953 posted 05/05/17 1:35pm

OnlyNDaUsa

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

I never even added "Electric Intercourse" to my Spotify. Listened to it, know it's there if I want to listen to again. I'll add whatever unreleased tracks I like, but that's as far as most folks are going to go to "purchase" this release.

It's all about track streams now.

When I was a kid you could go to a Warehouse music store and listen to albums track by track in a little kiosk on an end-cap and wondered out loud why we couldn't just get the exact tracks we wanted instead of the whole album.

Thankfully that day has come.
Thankfully for me as a consumer, not so much for the labels or artists. If Prince was still around I would make sure to support him by going to his shows and stream his songs I like through Spotify. All I can do is stream his tracks now, but I could care less where the money goes. Someone is getting paid.

I remember in the 80s reading that was something they were going to be doing "soon" and then again when CDRs became popular. But the tech changed so fast and now we have it where we can either buy just what we want have and save it to our media of choice. (I have a set of CDRS with about 6 albums each CDR so it helps with not having to change on my daily commute)

what I want to see is a way to mix your own versions of songs... but I doubt there is enough interest in that.

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #954 posted 05/05/17 1:49pm

BeatofBlackWings

For the love of fuck, this stuff needs to leak already.

Reply #955 posted 05/05/17 1:54pm

getxxxx

just pre ordered from Target.

Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman
Reply #956 posted 05/05/17 2:19pm

IstenSzek

BeatofBlackWings said:

For the love of fuck, this stuff needs to leak already.



i haven't paid attention to any leaks the last 2 years or so but isn't it
usually much much closer to the release date, like 1 or 2 weeks?

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #957 posted 05/05/17 4:22pm

jjam

I hear CD1 and CD2 of the 3CD/1DVD package leaked over 30 years ago wink

Reply #958 posted 05/05/17 4:43pm

BeatofBlackWings

IstenSzek said:

BeatofBlackWings said:

For the love of fuck, this stuff needs to leak already.



i haven't paid attention to any leaks the last 2 years or so but isn't it
usually much much closer to the release date, like 1 or 2 weeks?

It sort of depends, from what I've seen. When something is posted to iTunes like this, it can leak extremely quickly because it's no longer in solely the label's hands.

We'll see. If Questlove already has the file (but didn't have it before now), seems to me it's out there in some fashion. I'd be surprised if it took another month to leak. Maybe wider than Prince.org, but someone here should have it by then.

Reply #959 posted 05/05/17 4:51pm

Ugot2shakesumthin

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

I never even added "Electric Intercourse" to my Spotify. Listened to it, know it's there if I want to listen to again. I'll add whatever unreleased tracks I like, but that's as far as most folks are going to go to "purchase" this release.

It's all about track streams now.

When I was a kid you could go to a Warehouse music store and listen to albums track by track in a little kiosk on an end-cap and wondered out loud why we couldn't just get the exact tracks we wanted instead of the whole album.

Thankfully that day has come.
Thankfully for me as a consumer, not so much for the labels or artists. If Prince was still around I would make sure to support him by going to his shows and stream his songs I like through Spotify. All I can do is stream his tracks now, but I could care less where the money goes. Someone is getting paid.

I remember in the 80s reading that was something they were going to be doing "soon" and then again when CDRs became popular. But the tech changed so fast and now we have it where we can either buy just what we want have and save it to our media of choice. (I have a set of CDRS with about 6 albums each CDR so it helps with not having to change on my daily commute)

what I want to see is a way to mix your own versions of songs... but I doubt there is enough interest in that.



There is certainly the software for you to mix your own versions.

[Edited 5/5/17 17:01pm]

Facebook is for losers.
Reply #960 posted 05/06/17 3:16am

NewpowerScarfo

TheEnglishGent said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

Word. (folks still say "word", right? )



Old folks do. I'm running into things like this more and more these days.




lol, too true.

Reply #961 posted 05/06/17 4:09am

bluegangsta

BeatofBlackWings said:

For the love of fuck, this stuff needs to leak already.

Good things come to those who wait.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #962 posted 05/06/17 4:14am

tonyspr

Not too sure if it has been mentioned but i was just looking at the pledgemusic site and the LP picture disc and 3cd/dvd packages are quite a bit cheaper than anywhere else I have found in the UK


Also check out the Sheila E pledge page, she is selling so much stuff related to her latest album (including Prince/ Sheila E - girl meets boy 7" single)

Reply #963 posted 05/06/17 4:42am

jjam

Well there's been no official mention of this Pledgemusic site - is it even a definite Warners thing? I'd be wary of pledging for that without confirmation from Warners...

Reply #964 posted 05/06/17 4:53am

MiceElfAgin

jjam said:

Well there's been no official mention of this Pledgemusic site - is it even a definite Warners thing? I'd be wary of pledging for that without confirmation from Warners...

.
PledgeMusic is a totally legit site, don't worry. Great prices too.

Also, I don't know if it has been confirmed before, but the expanded edition is a Digipak (according to PledgeMusic). Lame.

Reply #965 posted 05/06/17 5:19am

jjam

I'm aware that Pledgemusic is a legit site, but there's nothing on that page that states that it's an official Warners outlet.

Note that the prices don't include postage and packing, as that is to be determined.

Reply #966 posted 05/06/17 6:33am

BeatofBlackWings

bluegangsta said:

BeatofBlackWings said:

For the love of fuck, this stuff needs to leak already.

Good things come to those who wait.

As if we haven't all been waiting!?

Reply #967 posted 05/06/17 6:56am

bluegangsta

BeatofBlackWings said:

bluegangsta said:

Good things come to those who wait.

As if we haven't all been waiting!?

Exactly. What's another month?

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #968 posted 05/06/17 7:03am

OnlyNDaUsa

bluegangsta said:

BeatofBlackWings said:

As if we haven't all been waiting!?

Exactly. What's another month?

and 17 days

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #969 posted 05/06/17 10:42am

BeatofBlackWings

bluegangsta said:

BeatofBlackWings said:

As if we haven't all been waiting!?

Exactly. What's another month?

In a word? Agony. smile

Reply #970 posted 05/06/17 3:35pm

SomeSoldier

OnlyNDaUsa said:

 



bluegangsta said:


 



BeatofBlackWings said:


 


 


As if we haven't all been waiting!?



Exactly. What's another month?



 


 


and 17 days


17 long nights...
Reply #971 posted 05/06/17 3:36pm

Dilan

OnlyNDaUsa said:

bluegangsta said:

Exactly. What's another month?

and 17 days

its already been discussed the extended version isnt on this

I'm feeling a bit fammy™
Reply #972 posted 05/06/17 3:45pm

OnlyNDaUsa

Dilan said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

and 17 days

its already been discussed the extended version isnt on this

it is okay tomorrow it will be a month an 16 days

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #973 posted 05/06/17 5:33pm

getxxxx

Also available for pre - order at Target.com

Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman

URL: http://new.prince.org/msg/7/441628/Purple-Rain-Deluxe-Tracklist-CONFIRMED-by-APPLE

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