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Thread started 04/19/17 12:01pm

Militant

moderator

EXCLUSIVE - Purple Rain Deluxe Tracklist Revealed!

Last night, I got a tip from an industry insider that Warner Bros had registered all the tracks for Purple Rain Deluxe. As a songwriter myself with registered works, I have access to these databases - after following the lead wediscovered the following registrations - all recently registered by Warners marked with a 2017 release date and with full ISRC codes (These codes are used to identify released works across platforms).

So, without further ado here it is! Exclusive information about the forthcoming long-awaited Prince release, PURPLE RAIN DELUXE, to be released in June! Please feel free share this information across the whole Purple Family - all I ask is that you follow my facebook page (The Violet Reality) and repost the included image.
Please note - this is not necessarily the final order of tracks - and it's also possible (though unlikely) that there are other tracks not registered yet. Also worth noting - we've yet to hear anything about the accompanying live video DVDs.

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Reply #1 posted 04/19/17 12:05pm

3stori3s

Yawn.

Reply #2 posted 04/19/17 12:06pm

SomeSoldier

Disc 2 completely unnecessary. Disc 3 not that exciting, although there's quite a lot to love in there. A bit of a missed opportunity, though.
[Edited 4/19/17 12:08pm]
[Edited 4/19/17 13:07pm]
Reply #3 posted 04/19/17 12:10pm

Nasalhair

Deeply unimpressed by disk 2. Disk 3 looks great!
[Edited 4/19/17 12:56pm]
Reply #4 posted 04/19/17 12:11pm

NorthC

SomeSoldier said:

Disc 2 completely unnecessary. Disc 3 not that exciting, although there's quite a love in there. A bit of a missed opportunity, though.
[Edited 4/19/17 12:08pm]

Agreed. Although We Can Fuck is a nice surprise. Wonder what Prince would have thought of that...
Don't ever lose your dreams.
Reply #5 posted 04/19/17 12:12pm

dance4me3121

I'll buy it!!! I'm disappointed that the extended version of "17 Days" isn't included though.
Reply #6 posted 04/19/17 12:19pm

ReddishBrownOne

If this is right, then it looks interesting to me. Seems to be plenty of stuff on disc three that we've wanted to be officially released for years, like the studio version of Electric Intercourse.

Maybe it's inevitable that some people will be underwhelmed, as we've waited around three years for this set.

I'd much rather have a three disc set at a reasonable price (I hope) than a multi-multi disc set, bundled with tacky merchandise which retails for hundreds of pounds.
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Reply #7 posted 04/19/17 12:23pm

FunkOnTheOne

Interesting how pretty much everything is already out there. Also No time tracks, No Jill Jones, No Appolonia
Reply #8 posted 04/19/17 12:24pm

dodgydicko

dance4me3121 said:

I'll buy it!!! I'm disappointed that the extended version of "17 Days" isn't included though.

I'm pretty certain that the extended version was a dj made extended version and not from the Prince camp hence the reason why it's not included.

Reply #9 posted 04/19/17 12:24pm

FunkOnTheOne

Also, is the original Purple Rain really that bad sounding?
Reply #10 posted 04/19/17 12:26pm

dance4me3121

dodgydicko said:

 



dance4me3121 said:


I'll buy it!!! I'm disappointed that the extended version of "17 Days" isn't included though.

I'm pretty certain that the extended version was a dj made extended version and not from the Prince camp hence the reason why it's not included.


I think it was confirmed on here a few years ago that there's a unreleased version that's a little longer. Cuz the original fades.theres got to be more to it.
Reply #11 posted 04/19/17 12:28pm

Militant

moderator

By the way, just want to clarify as someone asked elsewhere - the original tracks in the database from Disc 1 are specifically marked as "2015 Paisley Park Remaster" - obviously, we remember Prince and Warners making the announcement the year before. Guessing that 2015 is when they got finished and/or delivered.... but that's 100% how they appear in the database.

Reply #12 posted 04/19/17 12:32pm

Romeoblu

well that's not 2 albums of unreleased music. However disk 3 will be marvellous to have.

Reply #13 posted 04/19/17 12:33pm

love2thenines2003

Is this the final tracklist?....or a work in progress?

And what about the 5 boX cd/DVD configuration and details?

Anyway thanx Militant
Reply #14 posted 04/19/17 12:34pm

dodgydicko

dance4me3121 said:

dodgydicko said:

I'm pretty certain that the extended version was a dj made extended version and not from the Prince camp hence the reason why it's not included.

I think it was confirmed on here a few years ago that there's a unreleased version that's a little longer. Cuz the original fades.theres got to be more to it.

lets hope so,i'd love to be proved wrong on this matter.

Reply #15 posted 04/19/17 12:36pm

dadeepop

Thanks for sharing! Not too shabby.
"The password is what."
Reply #16 posted 04/19/17 12:37pm

Militant

moderator

love2thenines2003 said:

Is this the final tracklist?....or a work in progress? And what about the 5 boX cd/DVD configuration and details? Anyway thanx Militant


This is everything that is registered right now. It would be incredibly unusual for Warners to register everything at different times, as the ISRC codes for the tracks are sequential, so the sequential ISRC codes before and after the ones that belong to these songs, are already done for other Warner Bros releases coming out around the same time.

That said, I can't 100% say this is final, although I strongly believe that it is based on the above and the fact that a June release would mean the packages will be getting manufactured in May.



Reply #17 posted 04/19/17 12:40pm

lynx

Disk 3 gets a thumbs up

Reply #18 posted 04/19/17 12:41pm

Graycap23

Wow......they need their asses whipped for this.

This is a MAJOR letdown.

Who the hell needs a disk of 7" edits?

Where is the list of songs from the other artists that appeared on the movie?

There is only 1 song on the Prince Disk 3 that we don't already have.

What a letdown.

Facts don't give a funk about your opinion.
Reply #19 posted 04/19/17 12:44pm

lust

But for the unnecessary single edits, a good looking package.

Definitely needs both versions of God. They're totally different. Should've had Sex Shooter, the time songs and Modernaire too.

As for a studio version of electric intercourse. Get In!

Thanks Militant.
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
Reply #20 posted 04/19/17 12:45pm

BoraBora



Something doesn't compute, here I can see only 1 CD of unreleased tracks, not 2 as announced.


That said, many interesting things inside, something really unexpected.

All in all, I hope this is the real release.



Reply #21 posted 04/19/17 12:45pm

jaawwnn

Could be worse but yeah, hmm. Some nice things in there but no 17 Days extended? I wonder if Our Destiny/ Roadhouse Garden isn't just taken from the birthday show? Where is Wednesday???

Also who's the fool complaining about two versions of God?? You know we'd go mad if they managed to mess up everything previously released on here!
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Reply #22 posted 04/19/17 12:45pm

Nasalhair

Graycap23 said:

Wow.....they need their asses whipped for this.


This is a MAJOR letdown.


Who the hell needs a disk of 7" edits?


Where is the list of songs from the other artists that appeared on the movie? 


There is only 1 song on the Prince Disk 3 that we don't already have.


 


What a letdown.


Speak for yourself - there are nine on disk 3 that I don't have. But disk 2 does look a bit rubbish. I'll still buy it though.
Reply #23 posted 04/19/17 12:46pm

blacknote

Happy to see CB (Hallway Speech Version) is included. It's all I asked for. However, I was hoping for something introspective in the vein of MJ's Thriller SE where Q and Rod Temperton were interviewed. Would have also liked to here different takes/early versions of When Doves Cry, etc.

Overall, this satisfies me.

Reply #24 posted 04/19/17 12:46pm

lust

Graycap23 said:

Wow.....they need their asses whipped for this.


This is a MAJOR letdown.


Who the hell needs a disk of 7" edits?


Where is the list of songs from the other artists that appeared on the movie? 


There is only 1 song on the Prince Disk 3 that we don't already have.


 


What a letdown.




Totally agree on points one and two but I don't think we can reasonably complain that we already have most of disc 3. At least the quality will better (hopefully)
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
Reply #25 posted 04/19/17 12:50pm

SchlomoThaHomo

Thanks for sharing. I'm absolutely salivating over disc 3, yet also cautious about being too excited, as the Moonbeam Levels sound quality was disappointing on 4Ever. I'm praying Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden are the Prince versions, and not the Lisa or Jill Jones ones.

Disc 2 is a bit of a WTF, as it's clearly not a disc of unreleased material, as promised, and a bunch of those single edits were just released on 4Ever. 17 Days is not just the 7 inch edit, but the version from the 12 inch as well. I was confused about for a sec and had to pull out my copy.

Disc 3 tho!!!!! drool3

Also, this version of Possessed is surprising, as it's not the '84 version, which some were hoping for/expecting.

Do we really think Prince wanted We Can Fuck, or even Wonderful Ass on there. Seems suspect.
[Edited 4/19/17 13:02pm]
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Reply #26 posted 04/19/17 12:51pm

maplenpg

Not as bad as I expected - disc 2 a waste of time but disc 3 is great. Bout time I paid back for some of these tracks. I'm probably happier than I expected to be.

Reply #27 posted 04/19/17 12:52pm

Graycap23

I guess this kills ever hearing When Doves Cry with the bass line added in.

sad

Facts don't give a funk about your opinion.
Reply #28 posted 04/19/17 12:55pm

kaine

We'll I guess that answers the age old question of the Roadhouse Gsrden album. Damn. If they put that on there they should have gone ahead and thrown All Day, All Night and Splash on there too. Yeah WB needs to stop with the damn single edits. I could forgive it once with the 4ever release but this is a damn pattern! But I'm still excited! Party Up!
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Reply #29 posted 04/19/17 12:56pm

Graycap23

kaine said:

We'll I guess that answers the age old question of the Roadhouse Gsrden album. Damn. If they put that on there they should have gone ahead and thrown All Day, All Night and Splash on there too. Yeah WB needs to stop with the damn single edits. I could forgive it once with the 4ever release but this is a damn pattern! But I'm still excited! Party Up!

A very annoying pattern.

Facts don't give a funk about your opinion.
Reply #30 posted 04/19/17 1:00pm

jaawwnn

Single edits are officially released tracks, may as well include them, some people collect these obsessively. Obviously not at the cost of new tracks but its purple frickin rain, they can afford to splash out on another CD!
Reply #31 posted 04/19/17 1:05pm

PurpleYoda3121

So Wonderful Ass will be the '83 version without Wendy and Lisa? That should definitely be interesting, I've never heard it.

And where are the two concerts? Can we assume that they will be released on DVD if they haven't been registered as songs?

Also, that's a much longer Father's Song than I've heard. Very good. Disc 3 looks impressive, everything and more I wanted with the exception of G-Spot.

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Reply #32 posted 04/19/17 1:08pm

Graycap23

lust said:

Graycap23 said:

Wow......they need their asses whipped for this.

This is a MAJOR letdown.

Who the hell needs a disk of 7" edits?

Where is the list of songs from the other artists that appeared on the movie?

There is only 1 song on the Prince Disk 3 that we don't already have.

What a letdown.

Totally agree on points one and two but I don't think we can reasonably complain that we already have most of disc 3. At least the quality will better (hopefully)

I get that most people won't have the D3 material.

D2 is a complete waste of time.

So far WB is is zero for 2 in my book. I won't be buying this.

I was looking forward to it until I saw this list.

Facts don't give a funk about your opinion.
Reply #33 posted 04/19/17 1:08pm

jaawwnn

PurpleYoda3121 said:

So Wonderful Ass will be the '83 version without Wendy and Lisa? That should definitely be interesting, I've never heard it.

And where are the two concerts? Can we assume that they will be released on DVD if they haven't been registered as songs?

[Edited 4/19/17 13:06pm]

I wouldn't assume anything until it's officially announced.

Reply #34 posted 04/19/17 1:09pm

Graycap23

PurpleYoda3121 said:

So Wonderful Ass will be the '83 version without Wendy and Lisa? That should definitely be interesting, I've never heard it.

And where are the two concerts? Can we assume that they will be released on DVD if they haven't been registered as songs?

[Edited 4/19/17 13:06pm]

The live material is probably the lasy Syracuse show that was relased on Laserdisk and the 1984 Birthday show. (just a guess)

Facts don't give a funk about your opinion.
Reply #35 posted 04/19/17 1:14pm

rlj1010

Graycap23 said:

PurpleYoda3121 said:

So Wonderful Ass will be the '83 version without Wendy and Lisa? That should definitely be interesting, I've never heard it.

And where are the two concerts? Can we assume that they will be released on DVD if they haven't been registered as songs?

[Edited 4/19/17 13:06pm]

The live material is probably the lasy Syracuse show that was relased on Laserdisk and the 1984 Birthday show. (just a guess)

I'm betting it's the previously released Syracuse show, and the August 3, 1983 First Avenue show.

Reply #36 posted 04/19/17 1:15pm

Sifi

= = = = = = =

Hi guys,
just to clear up some of the comments in this thread, which seem to be based on presumptions.
I ask you to have some trust in this post; please be aware that my sources have asked to shed some light on the leaked tracklist:
Father's Song is the full 5 minute, completely unheard, finished studio version. Mixed, mastered, multi-layered keyboard parts and all.
Electric Intercourse is the finished studio version we didn't even knew existed for sure! NOT the 1983 rehearsal.
Possessed is a completely different vocal version than has ever been circulating
Katrina's Paper Dolls is not the known, circulating version
Computer Blue and Dance Electric: the full, mastered, HQ version that always deserved a proper release.
We Can Fuck is the epic 10 minute work-out that no-one has ever heard. Prince´s drumming on this one is right up there with any classic p-funk track you know.
We´re really, literally, talking about Straight From The VAULT material here.
Obviously, it's impossible for me at this moment to submit some form of proof to back up my claim, but all I ask for you is to wait 'till the release is out there before we all pass judgment. If I turn out to be wrong, I´ll be the first to acknowlegde! But I am positive MINDS WILL BE BLOWN!
Also, disc 2 does contain prev.released material, but you will be surprised on the mastering done and sound quality!
For now, patience and best wishes. It´s a tough week for all of us.
Sifi

= = = = = =

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[Edited 4/19/17 13:21pm]

Reply #37 posted 04/19/17 1:16pm

stesa

Great news!

I am happy; stop the negativity people!

I'm listening to Deliverance, and have the feeling that Prince is alive and well!

I can take on the world!

Reply #38 posted 04/19/17 1:17pm

IstenSzek

so why is it taking them forever and a day to release this tracklist?

it's not as if it's mindblowing.

wtf is velvet kitty kat doing on there? that sounds nothing like any
of the other songs from the era lol

looking more and more like prince had very little to do with this as
it's almost unthinkable he would put 'we can fuck' on a release at
this stage.

oh well. still excited. just a lot less than i was before smile

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #39 posted 04/19/17 1:18pm

SomeSoldier

I'm actually starting to feel a bit bewildered about this. Disc 2 is completely pointless. I'm going to spend a lot of money in this (I know nobody is forcing me to buy it) and we really aren't getting much for our money.
Please, WB notice for future releases: we want extended versions of songs we already have, not edited versions!!!
Reply #40 posted 04/19/17 1:21pm

jaawwnn

Sifi said:

= = = = = = =

Hi guys,
just to clear up some of the comments in this thread, which seem to be based on presumptions.
I ask you to have some trust in this post; please be aware that my sources have asked to shed some light on the leaked tracklist:
- Father's Song is the full 5 minute, completely unheard, finished studio version. Mixed, mastered, multi-layered keyboard parts and all.
- Electric Intercourse is the finished studio version we didn't even knew existed for sure! NOT the 1983 rehearsal.
- Possessed is a completely different vocal version than has ever been circulating
- Katrina's Paper Dolls is not the known, circulating version
- Computer Blue and Dance Electric: the full, mastered, HQ version that always deserved a proper release.
- We Can Fuck is the epic 10 minute work-out that no-one has ever heard. Prince´s drumming on this one is right up there with any classic p-funk track you know.
We´re really, literally, talking about Straight From The VAULT material here.
Obviously, it's impossible for me at this moment to submit some form of proof to back up my claim, but all I ask for you is to wait 'till the release is out there before we all pass judgment. If I turn out to be wrong, I´ll be the first to acknowlegde! But I am positive MINDS WILL BE BLOWN!
Also, disc 2 does contain prev.released material, but you will be surprised on the mastering done and sound quality!
For now, patience and best wishes. It´s a tough week for all of us.
Sifi

= = = = = =

[Edited 4/19/17 13:20pm]

Let your sources know that Disc 3 is great!


But where is disc 4 with all the other outtakes?? This is Purple Rain FFS!

[Edited 4/19/17 13:36pm]

Reply #41 posted 04/19/17 1:24pm

Sifi

In addition, we can be sure that 1 of the DVD's will contain the Syracuse 1985 show, transferred from the 1" master reel, with restored and remastered audio. Not the Video or Laserdisc you may have...

Be well,

Sifi

Reply #42 posted 04/19/17 1:27pm

mushmackalenta

No traffic jam? Surely that should have been included.
Reply #43 posted 04/19/17 1:31pm

kaine

I would love to get that First Ave show with this when they perform the tracks for the first time. I watched it the other night. Can't imagine getting a pristine version. I am still very excited to be finally getting this. And we have to remember they don't wanna blow their load on this first release. Gotta save them goodies. But yeah G-Spot where or where can it be should be on this.
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Reply #44 posted 04/19/17 1:32pm

Militant

moderator

Haha, Warner Bros just had the post removed for "copyright infringement" on Facebook.

So please save it, and re-upload it yourselves, everywhere.

Seriously, what is the point of them doing that? The info is out there now.

Reply #45 posted 04/19/17 1:32pm

rusty1

No "all day,all night"
I tbought it was 2 discs of unreleased music?
Unreal
BOB4theFUNK
Reply #46 posted 04/19/17 1:35pm

Romeoblu

Sifi said:

= = = = = = = 


 


Hi guys,

just to clear up some of the comments in this thread, which seem to be based on presumptions.

I ask you to have some trust in this post; please be aware that my sources have asked to shed some light on the leaked tracklist:



Father's Song is the full 5 minute, completely unheard, finished studio version. Mixed, mastered, multi-layered keyboard parts and all.



Electric Intercourse is the finished studio version we didn't even knew existed for sure! NOT the 1983 rehearsal.



Possessed is a completely different vocal version than has ever been circulating



Katrina's Paper Dolls is not the known, circulating version



Computer Blue and Dance Electric: the full, mastered, HQ version that always deserved a proper release.



We Can Fuck is the epic 10 minute work-out that no-one has ever heard. Prince´s drumming on this one is right up there with any classic p-funk track you know.


We´re really, literally, talking about Straight From The VAULT material here.


Obviously, it's impossible for me at this moment to submit some form of proof to back up my claim, but all I ask for you is to wait 'till the release is out there before we all pass judgment. If I turn out to be wrong, I´ll be the first to acknowlegde! But I am positive MINDS WILL BE BLOWN!



Also, disc 2 does contain prev.released material, but you will be surprised on the mastering done and sound quality!

For now, patience and best wishes. It´s a tough week for all of us.

Sifi

= = = = = =


[Edited 4/19/17 13:20pm]

[Edited 4/19/17 13:21pm]



Any word on our destiny / Roadhouse Garden. Are they studio versions with Prince vocals?
Reply #47 posted 04/19/17 1:39pm

Sifi

Our Destiny contains Lisa´s vocals / Roadhouse Garden contains Prince´s vocals. Songs go back to back and will be released here as they were done in the studio.

Cheers!

Reply #48 posted 04/19/17 1:39pm

MIRvmn

Disc 2 is a total let down and pointless, but I had a feeling the tracklist would be something like this. Disc 3 seems interesting though and looking forward to the studio version of Electric Intercourse smile
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Thunder, all through the night
Promise to see Jesus in the morning light
Take my hand, it'll be alright
C'mon save your soul tonight
Reply #49 posted 04/19/17 1:40pm

Doozer

Militant said:

Haha, Warner Bros just had the post removed for "copyright infringement" on Facebook.

So please save it, and re-upload it yourselves, everywhere.

Seriously, what is the point of them doing that? The info is out there now.


Your OP image is broken (at least for me) now. Could someone put the tracklisting in this thread so it makes sense?

Reply #50 posted 04/19/17 1:41pm

Graycap23

Sifi said:

= = = = = = =

Hi guys,
just to clear up some of the comments in this thread, which seem to be based on presumptions.
I ask you to have some trust in this post; please be aware that my sources have asked to shed some light on the leaked tracklist:
Father's Song is the full 5 minute, completely unheard, finished studio version. Mixed, mastered, multi-layered keyboard parts and all.
Electric Intercourse is the finished studio version we didn't even knew existed for sure! NOT the 1983 rehearsal.
Possessed is a completely different vocal version than has ever been circulating
Katrina's Paper Dolls is not the known, circulating version
Computer Blue and Dance Electric: the full, mastered, HQ version that always deserved a proper release.
We Can Fuck is the epic 10 minute work-out that no-one has ever heard. Prince´s drumming on this one is right up there with any classic p-funk track you know.
We´re really, literally, talking about Straight From The VAULT material here.
Obviously, it's impossible for me at this moment to submit some form of proof to back up my claim, but all I ask for you is to wait 'till the release is out there before we all pass judgment. If I turn out to be wrong, I´ll be the first to acknowlegde! But I am positive MINDS WILL BE BLOWN!
Also, disc 2 does contain prev.released material, but you will be surprised on the mastering done and sound quality!
For now, patience and best wishes. It´s a tough week for all of us.
Sifi

= = = = = =

[Edited 4/19/17 13:20pm]

[Edited 4/19/17 13:21pm]

Sifi......good info on disk 3 but disk 2? Rather pointless.

Facts don't give a funk about your opinion.
Reply #51 posted 04/19/17 1:45pm

fabriziovenerandi

Doozer said:

Militant said:

Haha, Warner Bros just had the post removed for "copyright infringement" on Facebook.

So please save it, and re-upload it yourselves, everywhere.

Seriously, what is the point of them doing that? The info is out there now.


Your OP image is broken (at least for me) now. Could someone put the tracklisting in this thread so it makes sense?

+1 thank you

Reply #52 posted 04/19/17 1:47pm

Doozer

Doozer said:

Militant said:

Haha, Warner Bros just had the post removed for "copyright infringement" on Facebook.

So please save it, and re-upload it yourselves, everywhere.

Seriously, what is the point of them doing that? The info is out there now.


Your OP image is broken (at least for me) now. Could someone put the tracklisting in this thread so it makes sense?

Here it is, in plain text.

UPDATED: Note that the article on Variety.com has Let's Go Crazy (dance mix) omitted completely. Probably poorly transcribed from Militan's original image.

http://variety.com/2017/m...202390479/


Disc 1: Original album, 2015 Paisley Park remaster

Disc 2: Edits & extended mixes

  1. When Doves Cry (7” single edit)
  2. 17 Days (single edit)
  3. Let’s Go Crazy (single edit)
  4. Erotic City (single edit)
  5. Purple Rain (single edit)
  6. God (single edit)
  7. God (Love Theme From Purple Rain) (instrumental)
  8. Another Lonely Christmas (single edit)
  9. I Would Die 4 U (single edit)
  10. Baby I’m a Star (single edit)
  11. Take Me With U (single edit)
  12. Let's Go Crazy ( Special Dance Mix)
  13. Erotic City (extended version)
  14. Another Lonely Christmas (extended version)
  15. I Would Die 4 U (extended version)

Disc 3: From the Vault

  1. The Dance Electric (11:29)
  2. Love and Sex (5:00)
  3. Computer Blue (“Hallway Speech” version) (12:18)
  4. Velvet Kitty Cat (2:32)
  5. Katrina’s Paper Dolls (3:30)
  6. We Can F— (10:17)
  7. Electric Intercourse (studio version) (4:57)
  8. Our Destiny / Roadhouse Garden (6:25)
  9. Possessed (7:56)
  10. Wonderful A— (6:24)
  11. Father’s Song (5:30)



Certainly agree with everyone that disk 2 is unnecessary, but disk 3 looks worth the price of admission, whatever that will be.

[Edited 4/19/17 14:13pm]

Reply #53 posted 04/19/17 1:49pm

jjam

Well, this is disappointing.

Reply #54 posted 04/19/17 1:49pm

love2thenines2003

And why not a cd with the Demo configuration of PR.....with the demo of WDC =bass version ?....the beautiful unedited version of The Beautiful ones.....Darling Nikki or The Purple Rain demo etc.....i'M sure these songs are in WB Vault office....i'M disappointed anyway....2 cds with unheard songs were announced. ...there will be only one....Humm. ....I hope in the end that we get the 1st av august 83 concert on Dvd. ...if not this will be a big disappointment 4 me!
[Edited 4/19/17 13:50pm]
Reply #55 posted 04/19/17 1:50pm

SomeSoldier

Sifi said:

Our Destiny contains Lisa´s vocals / Roadhouse Garden contains Prince´s vocals. Songs go back to back and will be released here as they were done in the studio.


 


 


Cheers!


Thanks for all your information. Just one question: Are there any more track or does Millitant's list include them all?
Reply #56 posted 04/19/17 1:52pm

love2thenines2003

Sifi said:

Our Destiny contains Lisa´s vocals / Roadhouse Garden contains Prince´s vocals. Songs go back to back and will be released here as they were done in the studio.


 


 


Cheers!



Thanks 4 clarification.....Is the Dance Electric an unknown version?
Reply #57 posted 04/19/17 1:53pm

IstenSzek

love2thenines2003 said:

And why not a cd with the Demo configuration of PR.....with the demo of WDC =bass version ?....the beautiful unedited version of The Beautiful ones.....Darling Nikki or The Purple Rain demo etc.....i'M sure these songs are in WB Vault office....i'M disappointed anyway....2 cds with unheard songs were announced. ...there will be only one....Humm. ....I hope in the end that we get the 1st av august 83 concert on Dvd. ...if not this will be a big disappointment 4 me! [Edited 4/19/17 13:50pm]


i thought you had the inside scoop for days if not weeks now?

surely you've already had time to ajust to this news? razz

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #58 posted 04/19/17 1:56pm

sexton

I know I'll be in the minority here if not the only person who is okay with disc 2. I can see myself listening to it if the tracks were in the order in which the singles were released with the five extended versions at the end. I like single edits and use them most of the times I make compilations for myself.

I do understand though that everyone else is disappointed because disc 2 is different from what was initially promised.

[Edited 4/19/17 14:40pm]

Reply #59 posted 04/19/17 1:58pm

jjam

I'm not buying this as the final tracklist. For example, re CD2, where's the extended version of Let's Go Crazy? Sure, it's on CD, but it's more notable having that in there than many of the single edits, hence an odd omission.

No long version of 17 Days.

I'll still get this, but considering the amount of alternate versions and unreleased tracks from this period, this is bollocks.

Reply #60 posted 04/19/17 1:59pm

fabriziovenerandi

Doozer said:

Doozer said:


Your OP image is broken (at least for me) now. Could someone put the tracklisting in this thread so it makes sense?

Here it is, in plain text:

Thank you doozer.

Well, the cd2 is - more or less - useless.

The cd3 is interesting but... Roadhouse Garden... Wonderful Ass...

I was still waiting for the Revolution's Roadhouse Garden with Roadhouse Garden, Wonderful Ass, All My Dreams, Splash, Witness 4 the Prosecution... I fear WB is putting together tracks here and there without a coherent plan (like the poor Moonbeam Levels alone in the hits cds).

Reply #61 posted 04/19/17 2:01pm

Militant

moderator

jjam said:

I'm not buying this as the final tracklist. For example, re CD2, where's the extended version of Let's Go Crazy? Sure, it's on CD, but it's more notable having that in there than many of the single edits, hence an odd omission.

No long version of 17 Days.

I'll still get this, but considering the amount of alternate versions and unreleased tracks from this period, this is bollocks.

Warner Bros just filed a copyright claim against the original post, so they obviously don't think it's bollocks.

Given that somebody's job was to register these songs with the royalty database, and it appeared under the official Warner Music account, you can think that it's bollocks if you like.

But I know that it's not smile

Reply #62 posted 04/19/17 2:01pm

Sifi

love2thenines2003 said:

Sifi said:

Our Destiny contains Lisa´s vocals / Roadhouse Garden contains Prince´s vocals. Songs go back to back and will be released here as they were done in the studio.

Cheers!

Thanks 4 clarification.....Is the Dance Electric an unknown version?

Version is known in some collector´s circles, but it´s unheard in the remastered quality that wil be on this Purple Rain set. You will "re-discover" the song, no doubt!

Reply #63 posted 04/19/17 2:02pm

Doozer

fabriziovenerandi said:

Doozer said:

Here it is, in plain text:

Thank you doozer.

Well, the cd2 is - more or less - useless.

The cd3 is interesting but... Roadhouse Garden... Wonderful Ass...

I was still waiting for the Revolution's Roadhouse Garden with Roadhouse Garden, Wonderful Ass, All My Dreams, Splash, Witness 4 the Prosecution... I fear WB is putting together tracks here and there without a coherent plan (like the poor Moonbeam Levels alone in the hits cds).


Well, I still believe that Prince had a hand in this release, and WB may have compromised on a number of things with him.

How Prince approved including "We Can Fuck" is beyond me, though.

Reply #64 posted 04/19/17 2:03pm

jjam

It's worth noting that in the Variety article, "a rep for Warner Bros., which is releasing the album, had not responded to Variety’s request for comment or confirmation. However, a source close to the situation confirmed the tracklist’s general accuracy".

I stress general, which could mean that the track listing for CD1 is spot on...

I mean, all the single edits, excluding B sides, could be on CD1.

Reply #65 posted 04/19/17 2:04pm

jaawwnn

jjam said:

I'm not buying this as the final tracklist. For example, re CD2, where's the extended version of Let's Go Crazy? Sure, it's on CD, but it's more notable having that in there than many of the single edits, hence an odd omission.

No long version of 17 Days.

I'll still get this, but considering the amount of alternate versions and unreleased tracks from this period, this is bollocks.

track 12

took me a minute to find it there myself

[Edited 4/19/17 14:07pm]

Reply #66 posted 04/19/17 2:04pm

aalloca

Disc 3 10/10

The rest well not happy, but I urge all of you who want more vault stuff to buy this.

We have to show that we will open the wallet for rate material.

Music is the best...
Reply #67 posted 04/19/17 2:05pm

jjam

Militant said:

jjam said:

I'm not buying this as the final tracklist. For example, re CD2, where's the extended version of Let's Go Crazy? Sure, it's on CD, but it's more notable having that in there than many of the single edits, hence an odd omission.

No long version of 17 Days.

I'll still get this, but considering the amount of alternate versions and unreleased tracks from this period, this is bollocks.

Warner Bros just filed a copyright claim against the original post, so they obviously don't think it's bollocks.

Given that somebody's job was to register these songs with the royalty database, and it appeared under the official Warner Music account, you can think that it's bollocks if you like.

But I know that it's not smile

Come on, calm down. Do you really think they'd miss off the extended version of Let's Go Crazy?

There is pretty much an embargo on details of the Purple Rain rerelease. I know this, I was in touch with Warners UK about 7 weeks ago trying to get more info.

Reply #68 posted 04/19/17 2:06pm

love2thenines2003

Sifi said:

 



love2thenines2003 said:


Sifi said:

Our Destiny contains Lisa´s vocals / Roadhouse Garden contains Prince´s vocals. Songs go back to back and will be released here as they were done in the studio.


 


 


Cheers!



Thanks 4 clarification.....Is the Dance Electric an unknown version?

 


Version is known in some collector´s circles, but it´s unheard in the remastered quality that wil be on this Purple Rain set. You will "re-discover" the song, no doubt!




Thanks 4 the info...it's appreciated 》can u confirmed that the second DVD is the concert at First Avenue in Minneapolis on 3rd August 1983. ?

Thanks in advance
[Edited 4/19/17 14:07pm]
[Edited 4/19/17 14:07pm]
Reply #69 posted 04/19/17 2:07pm

sexton

jjam said:

where's the extended version of Let's Go Crazy?


It's in Militant's original post in between the single edit of "Take Me With U" and the extended version of "Erotic City".

Reply #70 posted 04/19/17 2:12pm

jjam

Oh, I was looking at the Variety article.

Can somebody just leak the long version of 17 Days and let us all out of our misery? I have an unreleased cover of Head by Alvin & The Chipmunks that I can trade with.

Reply #71 posted 04/19/17 2:14pm

Militant

moderator

jjam said:

Militant said:

Warner Bros just filed a copyright claim against the original post, so they obviously don't think it's bollocks.

Given that somebody's job was to register these songs with the royalty database, and it appeared under the official Warner Music account, you can think that it's bollocks if you like.

But I know that it's not smile

Come on, calm down. Do you really think they'd miss off the extended version of Let's Go Crazy?

There is pretty much an embargo on details of the Purple Rain rerelease. I know this, I was in touch with Warners UK about 7 weeks ago trying to get more info.

Extended LGC is on there. Look again.

Once again - these are all the tracks officially registered by Warner Bros for a June release, with the royalty collections agencies. There's nothing to dispute here. I can provide the ISRC codes for every single song.





Reply #72 posted 04/19/17 2:15pm

Romeoblu

Sifi said:

Our Destiny contains Lisa´s vocals / Roadhouse Garden contains Prince´s vocals. Songs go back to back and will be released here as they were done in the studio.


 


 


Cheers!



That's a major disappointment for me.
Reply #73 posted 04/19/17 2:16pm

Doozer

Militant said:

jjam said:

Come on, calm down. Do you really think they'd miss off the extended version of Let's Go Crazy?

There is pretty much an embargo on details of the Purple Rain rerelease. I know this, I was in touch with Warners UK about 7 weeks ago trying to get more info.

Extended LGC is on there. Look again.

Once again - these are all the tracks officially registered by Warner Bros for a June release, with the royalty collections agencies. There's nothing to dispute here. I can provide the ISRC codes for every single song.





I think the confusion over the inclusion of Let's Go Crazy dance mix stems from Variety missing it from your original image, Militant. It's still missing on their site.

http://variety.com/2017/m...202390479/

Reply #74 posted 04/19/17 2:17pm

fabriziovenerandi

Militant said:

Once again - these are all the tracks officially registered by Warner Bros for a June release, with the royalty collections agencies. There's nothing to dispute here. I can provide the ISRC codes for every single song.





A silly question: the tracking order or the cds tracklist is sure for each cd?

Reply #75 posted 04/19/17 2:22pm

MIRvmn

Doozer said:

fabriziovenerandi said:

Thank you doozer.

Well, the cd2 is - more or less - useless.

The cd3 is interesting but... Roadhouse Garden... Wonderful Ass...

I was still waiting for the Revolution's Roadhouse Garden with Roadhouse Garden, Wonderful Ass, All My Dreams, Splash, Witness 4 the Prosecution... I fear WB is putting together tracks here and there without a coherent plan (like the poor Moonbeam Levels alone in the hits cds).


Well, I still believe that Prince had a hand in this release, and WB may have compromised on a number of things with him.

How Prince approved including "We Can Fuck" is beyond me, though.

and Erotic City. Prince didn't want it on Ultimate Prince so it was removed on the final configuration

[Edited 4/19/17 14:22pm]

Thunder, all through the night
Promise to see Jesus in the morning light
Take my hand, it'll be alright
C'mon save your soul tonight
Reply #76 posted 04/19/17 2:22pm

fabriziovenerandi

Another silly question (I don't know is the information is on the db): The Dance Electric have Prince or Andre at the vocals?

Reply #77 posted 04/19/17 2:25pm

jaawwnn

Romeoblu said:

Sifi said:

Our Destiny contains Lisa´s vocals / Roadhouse Garden contains Prince´s vocals. Songs go back to back and will be released here as they were done in the studio.

Cheers!

That's a major disappointment for me.

rumour has it she changed the lyrics to:

"Look its written in the sky above... Wendy and I wrote Purple Rain,
Dont fight it cause its stronger than us... Prince actually isn't that talented"

always causing trouble!

Reply #78 posted 04/19/17 2:26pm

dodger

Doozer said:

 



fabriziovenerandi said:


 



Doozer said:


 


 


Here it is, in plain text:


 



 


Thank you doozer.


 


Well, the cd2 is - more or less - useless.


The cd3 is interesting but... Roadhouse Garden... Wonderful Ass...


 


I was still waiting for the Revolution's Roadhouse Garden with Roadhouse Garden, Wonderful Ass, All My Dreams, Splash, Witness 4 the Prosecution... I fear WB is putting together tracks here and there without a coherent plan (like the poor Moonbeam Levels alone in the hits cds).




Well, I still believe that Prince had a hand in this release, and WB may have compromised on a number of things with him.

How Prince approved including "We Can Fuck" is beyond me, though. 



Yes, We Can Fuck and Wonderful Ass make me doubt he had much involvement apart from Disc 1 PP 2015 Remaster. But then I guess you have to wonder how they got Disc 3 'From The Vault' so fuck knows...
Reply #79 posted 04/19/17 2:28pm

sulls

Militant - you are THE man! Incredible! Thanks for the details!
"I like to watch."
Reply #80 posted 04/19/17 2:28pm

SchlomoThaHomo

IstenSzek said:

 



love2thenines2003 said:


And why not a cd with the Demo configuration of PR.....with the demo of WDC =bass version ?....the beautiful unedited version of The Beautiful ones.....Darling Nikki or The Purple Rain demo etc.....i'M sure these songs are in WB Vault office....i'M disappointed anyway....2 cds with unheard songs were announced. ...there will be only one....Humm. ....I hope in the end that we get the 1st av august 83 concert on Dvd. ...if not this will be a big disappointment 4 me! [Edited 4/19/17 13:50pm]


i thought you had the inside scoop for days if not weeks now?

surely you've already had time to ajust to this news? razz  



:falloff:
"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
Reply #81 posted 04/19/17 2:30pm

Sifi

SomeSoldier said:

Sifi said:

Our Destiny contains Lisa´s vocals / Roadhouse Garden contains Prince´s vocals. Songs go back to back and will be released here as they were done in the studio.

Cheers!

Thanks for all your information. Just one question: Are there any more track or does Millitant's list include them all?

Not 100% sure. These are the tracks that were registered SO FAR.

Reply #82 posted 04/19/17 2:30pm

rusty1

No extended versions of Darling Nikki
The Beautiful Ones etc..
Where's traffic jam & Wednesday?
When doves cry with no bass & extended 17 days
aren't on this?
BOB4theFUNK
Reply #83 posted 04/19/17 2:32pm

JudasLChrist

Doozer said:

Doozer said:


Your OP image is broken (at least for me) now. Could someone put the tracklisting in this thread so it makes sense?

Here it is, in plain text:

Disc 1: Original album, 2015 Paisley Park remaster

Disc 2: Edits & extended mixes

  1. When Doves Cry (7” single edit)
  2. 17 Days (single edit)
  3. Let’s Go Crazy (single edit)
  4. Erotic City (single edit)
  5. Purple Rain (single edit)
  6. God (single edit)
  7. God (Love Theme From Purple Rain) (instrumental)
  8. Another Lonely Christmas (single edit)
  9. I Would Die 4 U (single edit)
  10. Baby I’m a Star (single edit)
  11. Take Me With U (single edit)
  12. Let's Go Crazy ( Special Dance Mix)
  13. Erotic City (extended version)
  14. Another Lonely Christmas (extended version)
  15. I Would Die 4 U (extended version)

Disc 3: From the Vault

  1. The Dance Electric (11:29)
  2. Love and Sex (5:00)
  3. Computer Blue (“Hallway Speech” version) (12:18)
  4. Velvet Kitty Cat (2:32)
  5. Katrina’s Paper Dolls (3:30)
  6. We Can F— (10:17)
  7. Electric Intercourse (studio version) (4:57)
  8. Our Destiny / Roadhouse Garden (6:25)
  9. Possessed (7:56)
  10. Wonderful A— (6:24)
  11. Father’s Song (5:30)



Certainly agree with everyone that disk 2 is unnecessary, but disk 3 looks worth the price of admission, whatever that will be.

[Edited 4/19/17 14:10pm]



Eh... I don't hink the 2nd disc is a waste. It has all the singles, all the related 12 inch versions and 12 inch b-sides. This release needed those things.

You know they are just holding off for 5 years down the line when they do an "ULTIMATE EDITION" Purple Rain with 12 discs and a bunch of video.

You know what I really want as a fan and as a musican? Stems. I want to be able to listen to each of the tracks from the 24 track tape of, say, The Beautiful Ones individually. Just for my own learning! It's my fantasy!

Reply #84 posted 04/19/17 2:34pm

sulls

I was hopeful for the extended Take Me With U in pristine quality. I LOVE the coda! Hope one day...

"I like to watch."
Reply #85 posted 04/19/17 2:35pm

Militant

moderator

fabriziovenerandi said:

Militant said:

Once again - these are all the tracks officially registered by Warner Bros for a June release, with the royalty collections agencies. There's nothing to dispute here. I can provide the ISRC codes for every single song.





A silly question: the tracking order or the cds tracklist is sure for each cd?

Not a silly question at all.

So this is the order that the songs are registered in, sequentially.

Doesn't mean for sure it's the same sequence on the album, but seems likely - after all, the WB employee tasked with registering the songs would likely have been sent them in the right order.

Reply #86 posted 04/19/17 2:36pm

NewpowerScarfo

Militant said:

Last night, I got a tip from an industry insider that Warner Bros had registered all the tracks for Purple Rain Deluxe. As a songwriter myself with registered works, I have access to these databases - after following the lead wediscovered the following registrations - all recently registered by Warners marked with a 2017 release date and with full ISRC codes (These codes are used to identify released works across platforms).

So, without further ado here it is! Exclusive information about the forthcoming long-awaited Prince release, PURPLE RAIN DELUXE, to be released in June! Please feel free share this information across the whole Purple Family - all I ask is that you follow my facebook page (The Violet Reality) and repost the included image.
Please note - this is not necessarily the final order of tracks - and it's also possible (though unlikely) that there are other tracks not registered yet. Also worth noting - we've yet to hear anything about the accompanying live video DVDs.

ZX4MvuNl.jpg

Whoa, thanx Militant. You really came through on bringing this info. Any word on the concert dvds?

Reply #87 posted 04/19/17 2:37pm

Sifi

fabriziovenerandi said:

Another silly question (I don't know is the information is on the db): The Dance Electric have Prince or Andre at the vocals?

Not a silly question!

It´s Prince on vocals.

Reply #88 posted 04/19/17 2:39pm

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

Graycap23 said:

Wow......they need their asses whipped for this.

This is a MAJOR letdown.

Who the hell needs a disk of 7" edits?

Where is the list of songs from the other artists that appeared on the movie?

There is only 1 song on the Prince Disk 3 that we don't already have.

What a letdown.

This was a Purple Rain remaster for the masses.
Master versions of these songs are perfect, especially disc 3
The Dance Electric, studio version of Electric Intercourse, I doubt if everyone has Love & Sex,

who has Velvet Kitty Katt and Katrina's Paper Dolls, a remastered We Can Fuck, Our Destiny Roadhouse Garden and Father's Song...


Maybe U all have great versions of those but I don't most do

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #89 posted 04/19/17 2:40pm

SoulAlive

It's disappointing that "G-Spot" isn't included,but otherwise,this set looks pretty good.I'm excited smile

Reply #90 posted 04/19/17 2:41pm

jjam

sulls said:

I was hopeful for the extended Take Me With U in pristine quality. I LOVE the coda! Hope one day...

Me too, as well as the unedited Nikki/I Would Die 4 U/Baby I'm A Star tracks.

Reply #91 posted 04/19/17 2:42pm

PurpleMedley122

Disc 2 is garbage. Why the need for the 7'' edits of songs where the full versions of most of the said songs are on the SAME DISC? It's just a waste of disc space. Disc 3, on the other hand, is great! I wonder what version of Wonderful Ass is included ('83 or '86).
Reply #92 posted 04/19/17 2:42pm

love2thenines2003

Sifi said:

 



fabriziovenerandi said:


Another silly question (I don't know is the information is on the db): The Dance Electric have Prince or Andre at the vocals?



 


Not a silly question!


 


It´s Prince on vocals.



Do u know if other reissues with outtakes from WB Albums catalogue are planned?
1000 thanx
Reply #93 posted 04/19/17 2:42pm

SoulAlive

SomeSoldier said:

Disc 2 completely unnecessary.

yeah,I think they overdid it with the 7" single edits biggrin

Reply #94 posted 04/19/17 2:48pm

JudasLChrist

SoulAlive said:

SomeSoldier said:

Disc 2 completely unnecessary.

yeah,I think they overdid it with the 7" single edits biggrin


All the 12-inches are there, and that is definitely NOT wasteful.

Reply #95 posted 04/19/17 2:48pm

sexton

JudasLChrist said:

Doozer said:

Here it is, in plain text:

Disc 1: Original album, 2015 Paisley Park remaster

Disc 2: Edits & extended mixes

  1. When Doves Cry (7” single edit)
  2. 17 Days (single edit)
  3. Let’s Go Crazy (single edit)
  4. Erotic City (single edit)
  5. Purple Rain (single edit)
  6. God (single edit)
  7. God (Love Theme From Purple Rain) (instrumental)
  8. Another Lonely Christmas (single edit)
  9. I Would Die 4 U (single edit)
  10. Baby I’m a Star (single edit)
  11. Take Me With U (single edit)
  12. Let's Go Crazy ( Special Dance Mix)
  13. Erotic City (extended version)
  14. Another Lonely Christmas (extended version)
  15. I Would Die 4 U (extended version)

Disc 3: From the Vault

  1. The Dance Electric (11:29)
  2. Love and Sex (5:00)
  3. Computer Blue (“Hallway Speech” version) (12:18)
  4. Velvet Kitty Cat (2:32)
  5. Katrina’s Paper Dolls (3:30)
  6. We Can F— (10:17)
  7. Electric Intercourse (studio version) (4:57)
  8. Our Destiny / Roadhouse Garden (6:25)
  9. Possessed (7:56)
  10. Wonderful A— (6:24)
  11. Father’s Song (5:30)



Certainly agree with everyone that disk 2 is unnecessary, but disk 3 looks worth the price of admission, whatever that will be.

[Edited 4/19/17 14:10pm]



Eh... I don't hink the 2nd disc is a waste. It has all the singles, all the related 12 inch versions and 12 inch b-sides. This release needed those things.


Ah, someone who agrees with me. I'd just rearrange the order slightly so it's A-side then corresponding B-side, A-side then corresponding B-side, etc. And move the extended instrumental of "God" to after the extended version of "Erotic City". The extended version of "I Would Die 4 U" can remain as the last track since it's live and therefore stands out a bit from the other songs.

Very nerdy, I know.

Reply #96 posted 04/19/17 2:49pm

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

PurpleYoda3121 said:

So Wonderful Ass will be the '83 version without Wendy and Lisa? That should definitely be interesting, I've never heard it.

And where are the two concerts? Can we assume that they will be released on DVD if they haven't been registered as songs?

Also, that's a much longer Father's Song than I've heard. Very good. Disc 3 looks impressive, everything and more I wanted with the exception of G-Spot.

[Edited 4/19/17 13:08pm]

If it is, it might sound like the 2:01min version (Work It disc 4) Without there backing vocals there is a little too much space

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Reply #97 posted 04/19/17 2:51pm

bluegangsta

Shitty tracklist.

I think a lot of you should take note of the MJ Estate's releases. If you're willing to buy shit - they will keep releasing shit.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #98 posted 04/19/17 2:53pm

3stori3s

Militant said:

Haha, Warner Bros just had the post removed for "copyright infringement" on Facebook.

So please save it, and re-upload it yourselves, everywhere.

Seriously, what is the point of them doing that? The info is out there now.

Maybe they weren't fond of the way you're self-promoting by revealing the tracklist.

Reply #99 posted 04/19/17 2:53pm

aalloca

I am playing this as I did/do with major albums I love:

Buy original

Buy remaster

Buy new format ie dvd audio sacd, shm, or blu ray audio

Buy 2 disc version

Buy super deluxe.

we are sitting on tons of great outtakes in great quality from recent leaks in the last few years.

It's cool that these people shared, but now it's time for us to pay back for what we rcvd.

I have and will buy everything prince has officially released to pay for the thousands of tracks we all got on the bootleg market.

Hopefully this won't be crazy expensive.

Look at the beatles..... we got anthology, then what 15 years later we got the mono box and love......... now Super Deluxe Sgt peppers.

Buy it, crank it,,,,,, get chills and remember the magic of hearing a track for the first time, referring to disc 3 and some of the tracks.

Music is the best...
Reply #100 posted 04/19/17 2:54pm

soladeo1

Frankly I'd pay $50 cold hard cash JUST for a re-mastered 9 track PURPLE RAIN.

Prince's 80's albums are so in need of a fresh sonic shine.

Reply #101 posted 04/19/17 2:56pm

love2thenines2003

Disc 2 is pure shit ..useless...but I think that disc 3 is going to be insane and great!

cool
Reply #102 posted 04/19/17 3:00pm

love2thenines2003

love2thenines2003 said:

Sifi said:

 



fabriziovenerandi said:


Another silly question (I don't know is the information is on the db): The Dance Electric have Prince or Andre at the vocals?



 


Not a silly question!


 


It´s Prince on vocals.



Do u know if other reissues with outtakes from WB Albums catalogue are planned?
1000 thanx


Are the songs from WB Vault or Paisley Park Vault?
Reply #103 posted 04/19/17 3:02pm

TheEnglishGent

Am I the only one suspicious about the 2015 Paisley Park remaster tag on Purple Rain? Did Prince do this with unedited vocals?

Yep, disc 2 is disapointing. Disc 3 looks great to me though. Very much looking forward to buying this.

RIP sad
Reply #104 posted 04/19/17 3:02pm

joytotheworld

Variety mentions that two films are likely to be included presumably Prince and the Revolution Live 1985 Syracuse the other is not mentioned. WB has not confirmed the tracklist or the films. Sorry if this has already been posted.

Reply #105 posted 04/19/17 3:06pm

bluegangsta

  1. The Dance Electric (11:29) - Leaked in great quality.
  2. Love and Sex (5:00)
  3. Computer Blue (“Hallway Speech” version) (12:18) - Leaked in great quality.
  4. Velvet Kitty Cat (2:32) - Leaked in great quality.
  5. Katrina’s Paper Dolls (3:30)
  6. We Can F— (10:17) - Partially leaked.
  7. Electric Intercourse (studio version) (4:57)
  8. Our Destiny / Roadhouse Garden (6:25)
  9. Possessed (7:56) - Different version leaked. Or this is an edit.
  10. Wonderful A— (6:24) - Leaked in great quality.
  11. Father’s Song (5:30)

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #106 posted 04/19/17 3:06pm

ForceofNature

We get full studio versions of Wonderful Ass, Electric Intercourse, Hallway Computer Blue, and The Dance Electric. I don't care what anyone says, this plus a remastered Purple Rain is so awesome and I am fully happy with it!

Reply #107 posted 04/19/17 3:09pm

eyewishuheaven

Love it.

As some others have stated, Disc 2 needs to be here.

And the associated artists don't - remaster those albums, too! cool

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #108 posted 04/19/17 3:11pm

NewpowerScarfo

I'm actually pleased with this upcoming release. true I already have most of the songs (except for several on cd 3), but to hear clear remastered HQ versions is what dreams are made of! Automatic day #1 buy for me! Anyway, two questions remain: What is the price? What are the two live concert dvds? Anyway, Thank U Militant for this info. I was about to lose faith in this project all together!

Reply #109 posted 04/19/17 3:12pm

SchlomoThaHomo

JudasLChrist said:

 



SoulAlive said:


 



SomeSoldier said:


Disc 2 completely unnecessary. 

 


yeah,I think they overdid it with the 7" single edits   biggrin   




All the 12-inches are there, and that is definitely NOT wasteful.



Yeah I'd say not only are they not wasteful, they're essential to a Purple Rain box set, along with everything else that was officially released during the era.

The problem is we were promised 2 discs of unreleased material. I think if the set included the b-sides, edits, and extended versions, in addition to two discs of unreleased material, nobody would have a problem with it.
"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
Reply #110 posted 04/19/17 3:12pm

ForceofNature

bluegangsta said:

Shitty tracklist.

I think a lot of you should take note of the MJ Estate's releases. If you're willing to buy shit - they will keep releasing shit.

It isn't shit at all man, you don't have to buy it if you don't want to - but I am just so thrilled and happy to get full properly mastered versions of my favorite unreleased songs from that era plus a remastered version of one of Prince's best albums

Reply #111 posted 04/19/17 3:22pm

IstenSzek

i'm content with disc 2 since it will at least give us the b-sides and extended versions
in the same quality and at the same volume as the other tracks. so if you put these
in a playlist they all go together and they don't change dramatically in sound from a
hits/bsides rip of "17 days" to the newly mastered "love and sex" etc.

the reason i'm not elated with disc 2 is because they clearly stated this release would
contain 2 discs of unreleased material. so far that seems to not be the case.

if they'd said 'and a bonus disc of unreleased songs', all would be fine.

why always the fuckery with press releases? can't companies like this get anything
right the first time round?

still holding out a tiny, tiny bit of hope for that second disc of unreleased stuff but it
will probably remain a dream.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #112 posted 04/19/17 3:22pm

bluegangsta

ForceofNature said:

bluegangsta said:

Shitty tracklist.

I think a lot of you should take note of the MJ Estate's releases. If you're willing to buy shit - they will keep releasing shit.

It isn't shit at all man, you don't have to buy it if you don't want to - but I am just so thrilled and happy to get full properly mastered versions of my favorite unreleased songs from that era plus a remastered version of one of Prince's best albums

And that's great for you. I however, can't see the value in purchasing a whole set for 5 - 7 unheard songs. Prince was one of the most prolific artists of our time - and the best they could do is clogg up most of a disc with single edits that no one really wants? And another with content that has mostly leaked in great quality?

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #113 posted 04/19/17 3:23pm

IstenSzek

SchlomoThaHomo said:

JudasLChrist said:


All the 12-inches are there, and that is definitely NOT wasteful.

Yeah I'd say not only are they not wasteful, they're essential to a Purple Rain box set, along with everything else that was officially released during the era. The problem is we were promised 2 discs of unreleased material. I think if the set included the b-sides, edits, and extended versions, in addition to two discs of unreleased material, nobody would have a problem with it.


exactly!

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #114 posted 04/19/17 3:26pm

ForceofNature

bluegangsta said:

ForceofNature said:

It isn't shit at all man, you don't have to buy it if you don't want to - but I am just so thrilled and happy to get full properly mastered versions of my favorite unreleased songs from that era plus a remastered version of one of Prince's best albums

And that's great for you. I however, can't see the value in purchasing a whole set for 5 - 7 unheard songs. Prince was one of the most prolific artists of our time - and the best they could do is clogg up most of a disc with single edits that no one really wants? And another with content that has mostly leaked in great quality?

It wont be simply for 5-7 unheard songs. You also buy it for full studio quality versions of some of Prince's best songs (Computer Blue hallway, Dance Electric, Wonderful Ass, etc.). Just because they have leaked in "alright" quality, honestly for me the expereince listening to proper full mastered songs are so much more enjoyable. Not to mention the fact that Purple Rain is going to be remastered as well so you will get that in better fidelity. I am happy

Reply #115 posted 04/19/17 3:28pm

bluegangsta

ForceofNature said:

bluegangsta said:

And that's great for you. I however, can't see the value in purchasing a whole set for 5 - 7 unheard songs. Prince was one of the most prolific artists of our time - and the best they could do is clogg up most of a disc with single edits that no one really wants? And another with content that has mostly leaked in great quality?

It wont be simply for 5-7 unheard songs. You also buy it for full studio quality versions of some of Prince's best songs (Computer Blue hallway, Dance Electric, Wonderful Ass, etc.). Just because they have leaked in "alright" quality, honestly for me the expereince listening to proper full mastered songs are so much more enjoyable. Not to mention the fact that Purple Rain is going to be remastered as well so you will get that in better fidelity. I am happy

From the same people that gave us Moonbeam Levels? I wouldn't jump up and down just yet.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #116 posted 04/19/17 3:30pm

ForceofNature

bluegangsta said:

ForceofNature said:

It wont be simply for 5-7 unheard songs. You also buy it for full studio quality versions of some of Prince's best songs (Computer Blue hallway, Dance Electric, Wonderful Ass, etc.). Just because they have leaked in "alright" quality, honestly for me the expereince listening to proper full mastered songs are so much more enjoyable. Not to mention the fact that Purple Rain is going to be remastered as well so you will get that in better fidelity. I am happy

From the same people that gave us Moonbeam Levels? I wouldn't jump up and down just yet.

I had the great pleasure of meeting and speaking with Susan Rogers about this release fairly recently and based on what she said about the care they are putting into finding the right versions in the vaults, I think its ok to get excited haha. The fact that she seemed pleased at the care WB is taking for this release is enough for me to feel excited for it, and to have full studio mastered versions of my favorite Prince outtakes makes this great for me.

When she told me they were scouring the vaults making sure the specific version of Wonderful Ass coming out is the one that Prince would have wanted out - that sealed the deal for me.

Reply #117 posted 04/19/17 3:30pm

jjam

It will be interesting to see where the outtakes have been sourced from. Here's hoping that they come from masters...

Reply #118 posted 04/19/17 3:35pm

dance4me3121

Im ready to pre order this on Amazon.i hope the pre order is up very soon.
[Edited 4/19/17 17:37pm]
Reply #119 posted 04/19/17 3:44pm

jjam

ForceofNature said:

bluegangsta said:

From the same people that gave us Moonbeam Levels? I wouldn't jump up and down just yet.

I had the great pleasure of meeting and speaking with Susan Rogers about this release fairly recently and based on what she said about the care they are putting into finding the right versions in the vaults, I think its ok to get excited haha. The fact that she seemed pleased at the care WB is taking for this release is enough for me to feel excited for it, and to have full studio mastered versions of my favorite Prince outtakes makes this great for me.

When she told me they were scouring the vaults making sure the specific version of Wonderful Ass coming out is the one that Prince would have wanted out - that sealed the deal for me.

Well that's good to hear.

Reply #120 posted 04/19/17 3:49pm

bluegangsta

ForceofNature said:

bluegangsta said:

From the same people that gave us Moonbeam Levels? I wouldn't jump up and down just yet.

I had the great pleasure of meeting and speaking with Susan Rogers about this release fairly recently and based on what she said about the care they are putting into finding the right versions in the vaults, I think its ok to get excited haha. The fact that she seemed pleased at the care WB is taking for this release is enough for me to feel excited for it, and to have full studio mastered versions of my favorite Prince outtakes makes this great for me.

When she told me they were scouring the vaults making sure the specific version of Wonderful Ass coming out is the one that Prince would have wanted out - that sealed the deal for me.

If that is the case, then that's great news! I'm still dissapointed with the amount of missed opportunities on this set through. Thus, I wont be buying it.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #121 posted 04/19/17 3:50pm

jstar69

fabriziovenerandi said:

Another silly question (I don't know is the information is on the db): The Dance Electric have Prince or Andre at the vocals?



Not a silly question, but I do think it would be silly to include Andre on vocals given it's a prince album. On the Variety post it states 'bandmate Andre' which is a bit concerning... it better be P on vocals
Reply #122 posted 04/19/17 3:51pm

ThirdStrike

Silly question. Wondering what everything thinks the price point would be for a set like this?

Reply #123 posted 04/19/17 3:55pm

ForceofNature

bluegangsta said:

ForceofNature said:

I had the great pleasure of meeting and speaking with Susan Rogers about this release fairly recently and based on what she said about the care they are putting into finding the right versions in the vaults, I think its ok to get excited haha. The fact that she seemed pleased at the care WB is taking for this release is enough for me to feel excited for it, and to have full studio mastered versions of my favorite Prince outtakes makes this great for me.

When she told me they were scouring the vaults making sure the specific version of Wonderful Ass coming out is the one that Prince would have wanted out - that sealed the deal for me.

If that is the case, then that's great news! I'm still dissapointed with the amount of missed opportunities on this set through. Thus, I wont be buying it.

I do agree that the disk 2 could have a little more unique variety to it, I probably will be listening to disk 3 way way more haha. But overall I am happy that fully mastered versions of my all time favorite Prince songs are finally going to be out there smile

Reply #124 posted 04/19/17 3:55pm

Crump

eek eek eek eek eek eek

Hyped for this and.. at last!!!!. Some thoughts / speculation

1) Gutted there is no Traffic Jam but I assume there was no room left on the disc and instrumentals have less appeal maybe.

2) We Can Fuck??? After all the speculation Electric Intercourse would be censored this is a shocker. I assume this is WB having free reign after his death or maybe the tracklist is all Prince picks (Paisley employees have said PR reissue was on his desk when he died). If its a crazy extended jam based on Erotic City I'll be happy.

3) If this is the reissue format for all his claasic albums I'll be happy (SOTT will no doubt need to be expanded more though). If recent rumours are true WB already had rights for 80s vault material which would make sense after the 2014 reissue deal and explain why WB let Universal win the vault bid.

4) Syracuse and First Avenue are logical and safe guesses for the DVD's just hope they are of significantly better quality than we have seen before.


5) Guessing WB were no doubt planning to announce this tomorrow hence them being registered yesterday to minimise leakage??


Anyway at least some good news this week of all weeks

Reply #125 posted 04/19/17 3:57pm

OnlyNDaUsa

we can Fuck or Funk?

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #126 posted 04/19/17 3:57pm

thedance

love

I am buying this no matter what.

The Orig album (CD1) = remaster

this alone is worth getting.

Eye No we already own most of the rest - still I am supporting this all the way through.

I can't wait to hold it in my hands.

Please.. let the 2 or is it 3 DVDs be in the final Purple Package... excited

[Edited 4/19/17 15:57pm]

Prince 4Ever. heart
Reply #127 posted 04/19/17 3:58pm

Militant

moderator

OnlyNDaUsa said:

we can Fuck or Funk?

It is registered in the database as We Can Fuck.

Reply #128 posted 04/19/17 4:04pm

jaawwnn

bluegangsta said:

ForceofNature said:

I had the great pleasure of meeting and speaking with Susan Rogers about this release fairly recently and based on what she said about the care they are putting into finding the right versions in the vaults, I think its ok to get excited haha. The fact that she seemed pleased at the care WB is taking for this release is enough for me to feel excited for it, and to have full studio mastered versions of my favorite Prince outtakes makes this great for me.

When she told me they were scouring the vaults making sure the specific version of Wonderful Ass coming out is the one that Prince would have wanted out - that sealed the deal for me.

If that is the case, then that's great news! I'm still dissapointed with the amount of missed opportunities on this set through. Thus, I wont be buying it.

You won't be buying it??

Holy shit, I mean i'm disappointed there isn't more, there's definitely a very strong case for at least another CD of unreleased outtakes we've been reeling off in this thread, nevermind alternate versions of songs, but not buying it? Hell i'll be buying it!

Reply #129 posted 04/19/17 4:06pm

SoulAlive

ThirdStrike said:

Silly question.  Wondering what everything thinks the price point would be for a set like this?



I'll take a wild guess: around $50 or so
Reply #130 posted 04/19/17 4:07pm

ThirdStrike

SoulAlive said:

ThirdStrike said:

Silly question. Wondering what everything thinks the price point would be for a set like this?

I'll take a wild guess: around $50 or so

That wouldn't be bad. Resonably priced if turns out to be true.

Reply #131 posted 04/19/17 4:10pm

bluegangsta

jaawwnn said:

bluegangsta said:

If that is the case, then that's great news! I'm still dissapointed with the amount of missed opportunities on this set through. Thus, I wont be buying it.

You won't be buying it??

Holy shit, I mean i'm disappointed there isn't more, there's definitely a very strong case for at least another CD of unreleased outtakes we've been reeling off in this thread, nevermind alternate versions of songs, but not buying it? Hell i'll be buying it!

Unless the DVD content is worth the price of the 5 disc set, no I wont be.

Where's those 2 albums of unreleased material?

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #132 posted 04/19/17 4:12pm

Militant

moderator

bluegangsta said:

jaawwnn said:

You won't be buying it??

Holy shit, I mean i'm disappointed there isn't more, there's definitely a very strong case for at least another CD of unreleased outtakes we've been reeling off in this thread, nevermind alternate versions of songs, but not buying it? Hell i'll be buying it!

Unless the DVD content is worth the price of the 5 disc set, no I wont be.

Where's those 2 albums of unreleased material?

Unless any other tracks have completely different ISRC codes that don't sequentially relate to these ones, or haven't been registered yet, then this is it.

I did search the database for things like Wednesday, 17 Days Extended, and various other PR-era titles that we know of...... nothing came up.



Reply #133 posted 04/19/17 4:15pm

bluegangsta

Militant said:

bluegangsta said:

Unless the DVD content is worth the price of the 5 disc set, no I wont be.

Where's those 2 albums of unreleased material?

Unless any other tracks have completely different ISRC codes that don't sequentially relate to these ones, or haven't been registered yet, then this is it.

I did search the database for things like Wednesday, 17 Days Extended, and various other PR-era titles that we know of...... nothing came up.

Exactly. And that furthers my point - No 17 Days extended, no Wednesday, no Traffic Jam.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #134 posted 04/19/17 4:15pm

jaawwnn

bluegangsta said:

jaawwnn said:

You won't be buying it??

Holy shit, I mean i'm disappointed there isn't more, there's definitely a very strong case for at least another CD of unreleased outtakes we've been reeling off in this thread, nevermind alternate versions of songs, but not buying it? Hell i'll be buying it!

Unless the DVD content is worth the price of the 5 disc set, no I wont be.

Where's those 2 albums of unreleased material?

In the post with your lotusflower t-shirt.

Reply #135 posted 04/19/17 4:22pm

bluegangsta

jaawwnn said:

bluegangsta said:

Unless the DVD content is worth the price of the 5 disc set, no I wont be.

Where's those 2 albums of unreleased material?

In the post with your lotusflower t-shirt.

Bullshit answer.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #136 posted 04/19/17 4:22pm

mrmaxwell

Given all the surroundung circumstances I think this is a very good release - not perfect but decent enough for a first attempt.

I am assuming that many contents in the vault are not in great condition hence giving WB benefit of the doubt regarding what they have access to in the last few months.

There will be many more releases of this great album so as I said - a good first attempt.

I'm even more excited about the DVD releases, potential to see some great quality here for the first time. First Ave Aug 83 would be incredible!

Reply #137 posted 04/19/17 4:25pm

SchlomoThaHomo

Crump said:

Paisley employees have said PR reissue was on his desk when he died. 



I just have a hard time believing Erotic City, Wonderful Ass, and We Can Fuck were on his track list. Now, Theocratic City, Wonderful Butt, and We Can Duck (7 Minutes Mo' Quack), I might believe.

Sorry, I'll see myself out. lurking
"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
Reply #138 posted 04/19/17 4:26pm

muleFunk

Dig it.

Will be bought June!

Reply #139 posted 04/19/17 4:27pm

jaawwnn

bluegangsta said:

jaawwnn said:

In the post with your lotusflower t-shirt.

Bullshit answer.

lol

oh man, I thought you were one of the jokers on here. How am I supposed to know where it is?? They lied in the press release, it's hardly the first time and it won't be the last

Reply #140 posted 04/19/17 4:37pm

sulls

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Crump said:

Paisley employees have said PR reissue was on his desk when he died.

I just have a hard time believing Erotic City, Wonderful Ass, and We Can Fuck were on his track list. Now, Theocratic City, Wonderful Butt, and We Can Duck (7 Minutes Mo' Quack), I might believe. Sorry, I'll see myself out. lurking

7 minutes mo' quack.... falloff

"I like to watch."
Reply #141 posted 04/19/17 4:40pm

TheFman

it's 100% exactly that what i wrote in the other tread that it would be.
Not surprised and not very excited either. They keep making mistakes all the time...


edit: i take that back, i said that on disc 2 would be the full version of the songs. It's not even that. This is beyond silly.

[Edited 4/19/17 16:42pm]

Reply #142 posted 04/19/17 4:48pm

TheFman

soladeo1 said:

Frankly I'd pay $50 cold hard cash JUST for a re-mastered 9 track PURPLE RAIN.

Prince's 80's albums are so in need of a fresh sonic shine.


I wouldn't give a dime for any remastered version of any album of any artist.
How it came out is how it's supposed to sound.
get yourself the original vinyl album (no fancy 180 gr rubbish) and a high-end turntable and audio installation, and there's no need for any remastered PR album!

Reply #143 posted 04/19/17 4:50pm

gandorb

IstenSzek said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

JudasLChrist said: Yeah I'd say not only are they not wasteful, they're essential to a Purple Rain box set, along with everything else that was officially released during the era. The problem is we were promised 2 discs of unreleased material. I think if the set included the b-sides, edits, and extended versions, in addition to two discs of unreleased material, nobody would have a problem with it.


exactly!

ditto!

Reply #144 posted 04/19/17 4:54pm

Pgeishirt

Would a Computer Blue fan please tell me if this "hallway" version, whatever does that mean?, is the one to hear or do I have to keep looking?
Reply #145 posted 04/19/17 4:59pm

ForceofNature

TheFman said:

soladeo1 said:

Frankly I'd pay $50 cold hard cash JUST for a re-mastered 9 track PURPLE RAIN.

Prince's 80's albums are so in need of a fresh sonic shine.


I wouldn't give a dime for any remastered version of any album of any artist.
How it came out is how it's supposed to sound.
get yourself the original vinyl album (no fancy 180 gr rubbish) and a high-end turntable and audio installation, and there's no need for any remastered PR album!

Remasters in a lot of cases have the potential to come closer to the master tape than what you get from crappy CD editions from the 80's with loudy tape transfers or from high-gen tapes or even vinyl where you have to make mastering choices that will fit the vinyl format and won't screw with anything. If a remastering is done horrible like conforming to a loudness wars trend, it will be shitty. But when done right I think its a fantastic thing

[Edited 4/19/17 17:00pm]

Reply #146 posted 04/19/17 4:59pm

Crump

jaawwnn said:

bluegangsta said:

Bullshit answer.

lol

oh man, I thought you were one of the jokers on here. How am I supposed to know where it is?? They lied in the press release, it's hardly the first time and it won't be the last


I don't think its lying, more third hand news getting bungled in a press release before the project is really finalised. Realistically 2 vault discs was stretching it as that would leave no space for b sides / extended. People on here need to remember it has to appeal to the hardcore and more casual fans who may have never heard 17 days. Plenty of comments already show how difficult it would be to please the hardcore anyway.

Reply #147 posted 04/19/17 5:02pm

OnlyNDaUsa

Pgeishirt said:

Would a Computer Blue fan please tell me if this "hallway" version, whatever does that mean?, is the one to hear or do I have to keep looking?

it is more lyrics talking about walking down a hallway...

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #148 posted 04/19/17 5:04pm

NewpowerScarfo

Pgeishirt said:

Would a Computer Blue fan please tell me if this "hallway" version, whatever does that mean?, is the one to hear or do I have to keep looking?

It's the version that has Prince giving an speech about Hallways, Corridors, Hate, in the background. Trust me, it's the BEST version of Computer Blue!

Reply #149 posted 04/19/17 5:04pm

SoulAlive

Pgeishirt said:

Would a Computer Blue fan please tell me if this "hallway" version, whatever does that mean?, is the one to hear or do I have to keep looking?


It is a lengthy version of the song wih a spoken part known as the "hallway speech".It is absolutely amazing.You will love it.
Reply #150 posted 04/19/17 5:05pm

jjam

Well the audio for the package has been remastered by Bernie Grundman from the masters, who did the original release - which bodes well...

http://blog.thecurrent.or...ecordings/

[Edited 4/19/17 17:06pm]

[Edited 4/19/17 17:06pm]

Reply #151 posted 04/19/17 5:05pm

SomeSoldier

Crump said:

 



jaawwnn said:


 



bluegangsta said:


 


Bullshit answer.



lol

oh man, I thought you were one of the jokers on here. How am I supposed to know where it is?? They lied in the press release, it's hardly the first time and it won't be the last




I don't think its lying, more third hand news getting bungled in a press release before the project is really finalised. Realistically 2 vault discs was stretching it as that would leave no space for b sides / extended. People on here need to remember it has to appeal to the hardcore and more casual fans who may have never heard 17 days. Plenty of comments already show how difficult it would be to please the hardcore anyway.


The problem with disc 2 is that we don't get extended versions, we get edited versions.
Reply #152 posted 04/19/17 5:11pm

jjam

I imagine Warners were planning to announce this on Friday, so are probably a bit pissed off about the jumping of the gun. There goes our chance of a 10CD "1999" box set, then.

Reply #153 posted 04/19/17 5:14pm

jaawwnn

SomeSoldier said:

Crump said:


I don't think its lying, more third hand news getting bungled in a press release before the project is really finalised. Realistically 2 vault discs was stretching it as that would leave no space for b sides / extended. People on here need to remember it has to appeal to the hardcore and more casual fans who may have never heard 17 days. Plenty of comments already show how difficult it would be to please the hardcore anyway.

The problem with disc 2 is that we don't get extended versions, we get edited versions.

Except for the extended versions we also get confuse


There's five 12" versions of songs on there.

[Edited 4/19/17 17:19pm]

Reply #154 posted 04/19/17 5:15pm

Pgeishirt

NewpowerScarfo said:

 



Pgeishirt said:


Would a Computer Blue fan please tell me if this "hallway" version, whatever does that mean?, is the one to hear or do I have to keep looking?

 


It's the version that has Prince giving an speech about Hallways, Corridors, Hate, in the background. Trust me, it's the BEST version of Computer Blue!


Yippee!
Reply #155 posted 04/19/17 5:15pm

Pgeishirt

SoulAlive said:

Pgeishirt said:

Would a Computer Blue fan please tell me if this "hallway" version, whatever does that mean?, is the one to hear or do I have to keep looking?


It is a lengthy version of the song wih a spoken part known as the "hallway speech".It is absolutely amazing.You will love it.

Yay! Now I can't wait!
Reply #156 posted 04/19/17 5:16pm

Militant

moderator

jjam said:

I imagine Warners were planning to announce this on Friday, so are probably a bit pissed off about the jumping of the gun. There goes our chance of a 10CD "1999" box set, then.



In that case they should have waited to register the songs with the publishing and collections folks where any songwriter can search and find them.

Anyway, there's always things to worry about. There's multiple (well....at least 2) hardcore collectors on this very forum who I happen to know have both "Love & Sex" and "Katrina's Paper Dolls".......Since those songs are coming out anyway, they might well leak them.





Reply #157 posted 04/19/17 5:22pm

SomeSoldier

jaawwnn said:

 



SomeSoldier said:


Crump said:

 



I don't think its lying, more third hand news getting bungled in a press release before the project is really finalised. Realistically 2 vault discs was stretching it as that would leave no space for b sides / extended. People on here need to remember it has to appeal to the hardcore and more casual fans who may have never heard 17 days. Plenty of comments already show how difficult it would be to please the hardcore anyway.



The problem with disc 2 is that we don't get extended versions, we get edited versions.

except for the extended versions we also get   confuse

[Edited 4/19/17 17:14pm]


Correct me if I'm wrong, but apart from the I Would Die 4 U and Another Lonely Christmas, all the other extended versions in disc 2 (and I'm talking about disc 2 only) can be bought in iTunes. Let's Go Crazy was in Ultimate. Plus I haven't checked, but are the edited versions the same ones we got in 4Ever?
Reply #158 posted 04/19/17 5:26pm

jaawwnn

SomeSoldier said:

jaawwnn said:

except for the extended versions we also get confuse

[Edited 4/19/17 17:14pm]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but apart from the I Would Die 4 U and Another Lonely Christmas, all the other extended versions in disc 2 (and I'm talking about disc 2 only) can be bought in iTunes. Let's Go Crazy was in Ultimate. Plus I haven't checked, but are the edited versions the same ones we got in 4Ever?

Clearly the point of Disc 2 is to present the complete 7" and 12" edits of all the singles from the album. Zero songs on there have not been released before. Many are available now digitally and a few are not. The point is to get them all together with the same mastering.

Reply #159 posted 04/19/17 5:26pm

NewpowerScarfo

Militant said:

Last night, I got a tip from an industry insider that Warner Bros had registered all the tracks for Purple Rain Deluxe. As a songwriter myself with registered works, I have access to these databases - after following the lead wediscovered the following registrations - all recently registered by Warners marked with a 2017 release date and with full ISRC codes (These codes are used to identify released works across platforms).

So, without further ado here it is! Exclusive information about the forthcoming long-awaited Prince release, PURPLE RAIN DELUXE, to be released in June! Please feel free share this information across the whole Purple Family - all I ask is that you follow my facebook page (The Violet Reality) and repost the included image.
Please note - this is not necessarily the final order of tracks - and it's also possible (though unlikely) that there are other tracks not registered yet. Also worth noting - we've yet to hear anything about the accompanying live video DVDs.

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I don't care what some others say, I'm gonna purchase this on day one and blast the holy heck out of these crystal clear HQ sound! I'm still wondering about packaging, price, and the two full concert dvds.

Reply #160 posted 04/19/17 5:31pm

soladeo1

Admit it guys - all of Disc #2 truly re-mastered is worth
paying $50 by itself. And yet we quibble...
Reply #161 posted 04/19/17 5:31pm

SomeSoldier

jaawwnn said:

 



SomeSoldier said:


jaawwnn said:

 


except for the extended versions we also get   confuse


[Edited 4/19/17 17:14pm]



Correct me if I'm wrong, but apart from the I Would Die 4 U and Another Lonely Christmas, all the other extended versions in disc 2 (and I'm talking about disc 2 only) can be bought in iTunes. Let's Go Crazy was in Ultimate. Plus I haven't checked, but are the edited versions the same ones we got in 4Ever?

Clearly the point of Disc 2 is to present the complete 7" and 12" edits of all the singles from the album. Zero songs on there have not been released before. Many are available now digitally and a few are not. The point is to get them all together with the same mastering. 


Which is all fine. But it makes it one album of unreleased music, not two, and an awful lot less exciting than it wold be with a clear version of purple rain with the extra verse, the longer version of the Beautiful Ones, the extended version of 17 Days (if it exists) and so on.
Reply #162 posted 04/19/17 5:32pm

mrmaxwell

You'd think WB would make an official announcement any minute now seeing as they have no clue about issuing a press release BEFORE registering songs/albums on a public database!! grandpa

Reply #163 posted 04/19/17 5:33pm

jaawwnn

SomeSoldier said:

jaawwnn said:

Clearly the point of Disc 2 is to present the complete 7" and 12" edits of all the singles from the album. Zero songs on there have not been released before. Many are available now digitally and a few are not. The point is to get them all together with the same mastering.

Which is all fine. But it makes it one album of unreleased music, not two, and an awful lot less exciting than it wold be with a clear version of purple rain with the extra verse, the longer version of the Beautiful Ones, the extended version of 17 Days (if it exists) and so on.

Yes that is correct.

as i've said multiple times in this thread, there should be another cd of unreleased music on this release.


For clarity, and if anyone is interested, here is a copy of the original press release by Warner where they clearly state that included will be two cd's of unreleased music which, assuming this list is correct, is not the case. And yeah i'd agree it's more likely just people bungling a press release than straight out lying but unless you take it all very personally and flip out the results are the same.

[Edited 4/19/17 17:45pm]

Reply #164 posted 04/19/17 5:34pm

leadline

I dont consider this the first vault release after his passing as Prince himself is the one who picked these tracks according to many articles. I will buy it, but lets wait and see how the first real release comes together.

All those vault tracks already being in circulation is pretty good sign it was Prince who came up with it. He always wanted to get the real versions of the bootlegged stuff out there first ( for the most part )

Warner may have added We Can Fuck and Wonderful Ass, I can;t imagine Prince chose those given his stance on swearing at the time, unless he changed the lyrics to Wonderful Bum and We Can Freak.



[Edited 4/19/17 17:35pm]

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
Reply #165 posted 04/19/17 5:41pm

Crump

mrmaxwell said:

You'd think WB would make an official announcement any minute now seeing as they have no clue about issuing a press release BEFORE registering songs/albums on a public database!! grandpa

Yep, old media in full effect err

Many independant labels offer more content via download, but I can't see that happening with WB

Reply #166 posted 04/19/17 5:42pm

NewpowerScarfo

The Violet Reality earned my new sub, on youtube. I don't do facebook.

[Edited 4/19/17 17:43pm]

Reply #167 posted 04/19/17 5:54pm

luvgirl

WONDERFUL ASS!!!!! Katrina Paper Dolls! (Representing Vanity!) excited nutty nutty
Happy to see all the extended, Computer Blue Hallway speech, and few others I don't have! That said, not listening to Wonderful Ass again until June! lol
[Edited 4/19/17 18:53pm]
I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
Reply #168 posted 04/19/17 6:00pm

KlyphIsBackAgain

I'm LOL at all the people pissed that the songs that they bought/ heard on BOOTLEGS are being officially released.... (as if everyone scours the world for P boots)
[Edited 4/19/17 18:13pm]
Reply #169 posted 04/19/17 6:02pm

OnlyNDaUsa

NewpowerScarfo said:

The Violet Reality earned my new sub, on youtube. I don't do facebook.

[Edited 4/19/17 17:43pm]

their weekly show is great!

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #170 posted 04/19/17 6:04pm

Militant

moderator

OnlyNDaUsa said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

The Violet Reality earned my new sub, on youtube. I don't do facebook.

[Edited 4/19/17 17:43pm]

their weekly show is great!




Aww, you guys.

hug hug hug

Reply #171 posted 04/19/17 6:06pm

Dibblekins

ForceofNature said:

bluegangsta said:

From the same people that gave us Moonbeam Levels? I wouldn't jump up and down just yet.

I had the great pleasure of meeting and speaking with Susan Rogers about this release fairly recently and based on what she said about the care they are putting into finding the right versions in the vaults, I think its ok to get excited haha. The fact that she seemed pleased at the care WB is taking for this release is enough for me to feel excited for it, and to have full studio mastered versions of my favorite Prince outtakes makes this great for me.

When she told me they were scouring the vaults making sure the specific version of Wonderful Ass coming out is the one that Prince would have wanted out - that sealed the deal for me.

To me, that suggests Prince hadn't okayed a disc containing unreleased tracks from the vault - because you'd think he would have already selected the versions he wanted on any such disc.

.

Anyway...I'm thrilled we're getting a previously-unheard studio version of 'Electric Intercourse' - and I suppose that makes up for no 'G-Spot' and 'Purple Rain' with the extra verse (will we ever get those, I wonder?)?!
.
Here's hoping that we get a great quality DVD of the First Avenue gig where they played PR for the first time. I love seeing that sweaty, purple face! biggrin

Reply #172 posted 04/19/17 6:07pm

OnlyNDaUsa

Militant said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

their weekly show is great!




Aww, you guys.

hug hug hug

I am not sure which one I crush more on! razz

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #173 posted 04/19/17 6:21pm

jstar69

jaawwnn said:

 



SomeSoldier said:


jaawwnn said:

 


Clearly the point of Disc 2 is to present the complete 7" and 12" edits of all the singles from the album. Zero songs on there have not been released before. Many are available now digitally and a few are not. The point is to get them all together with the same mastering. 



Which is all fine. But it makes it one album of unreleased music, not two, and an awful lot less exciting than it wold be with a clear version of purple rain with the extra verse, the longer version of the Beautiful Ones, the extended version of 17 Days (if it exists) and so on.

Yes that is correct.

as i've said multiple times in this thread, there should be another cd of unreleased music on this release. 


For clarity, and if anyone is interested, here is a copy of the original press release by Warner where they clearly state that included will be two cd's of unreleased music which, assuming this list is correct, is not the case. And yeah i'd agree it's more likely just people bungling a press release than straight out lying but unless you take it all very personally and flip out the results are the same. 


 


 

[Edited 4/19/17 17:45pm]



Hmmm, given this info does not include the DVD info, and therefore is incomplete of full package release, maybe the 2nd CD (of unreleased info) is a yet to be detailed CD single/EP of one of the unreleased tracks from disc 3 - containing further unreleased songs from the Purple Rain era. Just a thought(pipe dream)? Would certainly maximise earnings for WB forcing the fans to buy the single also? Possibly including your G-spot, traffic jam and one or 2 others????
[Edited 4/19/17 18:29pm]
Reply #174 posted 04/19/17 6:25pm

nelcp777

I am looking forward to it.

Reply #175 posted 04/19/17 6:31pm

luvsexy4all

since all disc 3 tracks r previoulsy bootlegged (in the hands of some collectors)......does this mean these tracks r bootlegged sourced and not vault sourced? those elitists NEED to reveal if in fact ALL these tracks r in their hands ....

Reply #176 posted 04/19/17 6:31pm

purpleprime

People are moaning about disc 2..but lets be honest people would moan whatever was on the release, im actually really glad to have all the edits together...really makes for a complete package, and I cant wait to hear Prince's high pitch screeching God vocal's and the funkyness of Erotic City in a remastered form.....instead of just volume levelling as we previously have had...

[Edited 4/19/17 18:32pm]

Reply #177 posted 04/19/17 6:33pm

bluegangsta

purpleprime said:

People are moaning about disc 2..but lets be honest people would moan whatever was on the release, im actually really glad to have all the edits together...really makes for a complete package, and I can wait to hear Prince's high pitch God vocal's and the funkyness of Erotic City in a remastered form.....

That's an absolute cop-out.

If WB had delivered what they promised - two discs of unreleased material (a healthy mix of leaked and unleaked stuff) - the would be no complaints.

Stop trying to justify poor decision making just because you part with your money easily.

[Edited 4/19/17 18:35pm]

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #178 posted 04/19/17 6:33pm

KlyphIsBackAgain

purpleprime said:

People are moaning about disc 2..but lets be honest people would moan whatever was on the release, im actually really glad to have all the edits together...really makes for a complete package, and I can wait to hear Prince's high pitch God vocal's and the funkyness of Erotic City in a remastered form.....



Not only that but I remember when this set was first announced people on these boards were saying that the extended versions/etc NEEDED to be in this set for completion. What can I say, it's the internet....
Reply #179 posted 04/19/17 6:34pm

jjam

jstar69 said:

jaawwnn said:

Yes that is correct.

as i've said multiple times in this thread, there should be another cd of unreleased music on this release.


For clarity, and if anyone is interested, here is a copy of the original press release by Warner where they clearly state that included will be two cd's of unreleased music which, assuming this list is correct, is not the case. And yeah i'd agree it's more likely just people bungling a press release than straight out lying but unless you take it all very personally and flip out the results are the same.

[Edited 4/19/17 17:45pm]

Hmmm, given this info does not include the DVD info, and therefore is incomplete of full package release, maybe the 2nd CD (of unreleased info) is a yet to be detailed CD single/EP of one of the unreleased tracks from disc 3 - containing further unreleased songs from the Purple Rain era. Just a thought(pipe dream)? Would certainly maximise earnings for WB forcing the fans to buy the single also? Possibly including your G-spot, traffic jam and one or 2 others???? [Edited 4/19/17 18:29pm]

The link I posted earlier (to Thecurrent blog) mentions that the video of Syrcause show will be included, with the audio for that having been remastered too.

Reply #180 posted 04/19/17 6:38pm

bluegangsta

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

purpleprime said:

People are moaning about disc 2..but lets be honest people would moan whatever was on the release, im actually really glad to have all the edits together...really makes for a complete package, and I can wait to hear Prince's high pitch God vocal's and the funkyness of Erotic City in a remastered form.....

Not only that but I remember when this set was first announced people on these boards were saying that the extended versions/etc NEEDED to be in this set for completion. What can I say, it's the internet....

The extended versions are needed. The edited versions are not - we already have them numerous times over and no one really cares for them.

[Edited 4/19/17 18:38pm]

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #181 posted 04/19/17 6:41pm

jstar69

jjam said:

 



jstar69 said:


jaawwnn said:

 


Yes that is correct.

as i've said multiple times in this thread, there should be another cd of unreleased music on this release. 


For clarity, and if anyone is interested, here is a copy of the original press release by Warner where they clearly state that included will be two cd's of unreleased music which, assuming this list is correct, is not the case. And yeah i'd agree it's more likely just people bungling a press release than straight out lying but unless you take it all very personally and flip out the results are the same. 


 


 


[Edited 4/19/17 17:45pm]



Hmmm, given this info does not include the DVD info, and therefore is incomplete of full package release, maybe the 2nd CD (of unreleased info) is a yet to be detailed CD single/EP of one of the unreleased tracks from disc 3 - containing further unreleased songs from the Purple Rain era. Just a thought(pipe dream)? Would certainly maximise earnings for WB forcing the fans to buy the single also? Possibly including your G-spot, traffic jam and one or 2 others???? [Edited 4/19/17 18:29pm]

The link I posted earlier (to Thecurrent blog) mentions that the video of Syrcause show will be included, with the audio for that having been remastered too. 



So still another DVD yet to be detailed.... so until we get the WB press release detailing content who knows what is still to be confirmed....
Reply #182 posted 04/19/17 6:42pm

KlyphIsBackAgain

bluegangsta said:

 



purpleprime said:


People are moaning about disc 2..but lets be honest people would moan whatever was on the release, im actually really glad to have all the edits together...really makes for a complete package, and I can wait to hear Prince's high pitch God vocal's and the funkyness of Erotic City in a remastered form.....



That's an absolute cop-out.

If WB had delivered what they promised - two discs of unreleased material (a healthy mix of leaked and unleaked stuff) - the would be no complains.

Stop trying to justify poor decision making.



Actually people will complain anyway. For example, I guarantee there are a lot of people that will be happy to hear those unreleased versions on the new Sgt. Peppers set that comes out next month. Me? I heard most of them YEARS ago on Purple Chick bootlegs. But that's the cost of being a bootleg collector/uber fan. You want to hear stuff that you're not supposed to hear. Even if they included the other Purple Rain "long versions", guess what? We've already heard them! Could they have included Wednesday? Sure.... But maybe, just maybe they couldn't find it, or the tapes sucked, or whatever. 17 Days Extended may not even exist! The only thing that is fraked is they said 2 Cds of unreleased stuff..... But hell, even if there was I'm willing to bet super-fans would probably heard most of that too.
[Edited 4/19/17 18:43pm]
Reply #183 posted 04/19/17 6:45pm

KlyphIsBackAgain

bluegangsta said:

 



KlyphIsBackAgain said:


purpleprime said:

People are moaning about disc 2..but lets be honest people would moan whatever was on the release, im actually really glad to have all the edits together...really makes for a complete package, and I can wait to hear Prince's high pitch God vocal's and the funkyness of Erotic City in a remastered form.....



Not only that but I remember when this set was first announced people on these boards were saying that the extended versions/etc NEEDED to be in this set for completion. What can I say, it's the internet....

The extended versions are needed. The edited versions are not - we already have them numerous times over and no one really cares for them.

[Edited 4/19/17 18:38pm]



I could have sworn I have the extended versions on vinyl, on CD single, etc..... yet most of the edits I don't own.... Just saying
Reply #184 posted 04/19/17 6:46pm

jjam

jstar69 said:

jjam said:

The link I posted earlier (to Thecurrent blog) mentions that the video of Syrcause show will be included, with the audio for that having been remastered too.

So still another DVD yet to be detailed.... so until we get the WB press release detailing content who knows what is still to be confirmed....

I'm sure we'll see it this Friday.

And it has been confirmed that a proper long version of 17 Days exists. I was really hoping that it would be released on this package.

Right, that's the last time I moan about no long 17 Days. At least for 2 Days...

Reply #185 posted 04/19/17 6:47pm

bluegangsta

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

bluegangsta said:

That's an absolute cop-out.

If WB had delivered what they promised - two discs of unreleased material (a healthy mix of leaked and unleaked stuff) - the would be no complains.

Stop trying to justify poor decision making.

Actually people will complain anyway. For example, I guarantee there are a lot of people that will be happy to hear those unreleased versions on the new Sgt. Peppers set that comes out next month. Me? I heard most of them YEARS ago on Purple Chick bootlegs. But that's the cost of being a bootleg collector/uber fan. You want to hear stuff that you're not supposed to hear. Even if they included the other Purple Rain "long versions", guess what? We've already heard them! Could they have included Wednesday? Sure.... But maybe, just maybe they couldn't find it, or the tapes sucked, or whatever. 17 Days Extended may not even exist! The only thing that is fraked is they said 2 Cds of unreleased stuff..... But hell, even if there was I'm willing to bet super-fans would probably heard most of that too. [Edited 4/19/17 18:43pm]

All I'm hearing from you are excuses that apply when you want them to.

Yes, we've heard th elon versions of Purple Rain. We've also heard half of Disc 3. No excuse.

Wednesday was given a test pressing several times. Really? They couldn't find it? Unlikely.

17 Day does exist. it's been confirmed by Questlove and Madhousemen.

And yes, it is fucked that they said 2 CDs of unreleased material - they should be held accountable for it.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #186 posted 04/19/17 6:48pm

purpleprime

bluegangsta said:

purpleprime said:

People are moaning about disc 2..but lets be honest people would moan whatever was on the release, im actually really glad to have all the edits together...really makes for a complete package, and I can wait to hear Prince's high pitch God vocal's and the funkyness of Erotic City in a remastered form.....

That's an absolute cop-out.

If WB had delivered what they promised - two discs of unreleased material (a healthy mix of leaked and unleaked stuff) - the would be no complaints.

Stop trying to justify poor decision making just because you part with your money easily.

[Edited 4/19/17 18:35pm]

I dont part with my money easily.....but id prefer all those b-sides that are actually associated with the singles of that album "Purple Rain" ...to all be together.....that's all.....if they wernt they would only release a "B-sides collection" ...somewhere down there line, which I would end up spending on again anway....

Reply #187 posted 04/19/17 6:49pm

jaawwnn

bluegangsta said:

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

purpleprime said: Not only that but I remember when this set was first announced people on these boards were saying that the extended versions/etc NEEDED to be in this set for completion. What can I say, it's the internet....

The extended versions are needed. The edited versions are not - we already have them numerous times over and no one really cares for them.

[Edited 4/19/17 18:38pm]

I don't know if Purple Rain edit has ever had a cd or digital release, maybe on some ancient multiple artist compilation. Why anyone would want to listen to it is beyond my personal taste but I actually have a friend who has repeatedly said the 7" edit is his favourite Prince track. shrug

I think it's important that the 7" versions be included, they're part of the story. Not at the expense of other unreleased tracks OBVIOUSLY but you're acting like this was a choice that was ever on the table. We have no idea. Physically including an extra cd would be a minor expense, preparing another cd from outtakes is a different thing altogether.

Don't get me wrong, i'm disappointed too but unfortunately i'm not surprised. The lack of 17 Days extended and Wednesday is a real kicker for me.

[Edited 4/19/17 18:53pm]

Reply #188 posted 04/19/17 6:53pm

jstar69

jjam said:

 



jstar69 said:


jjam said:

 


The link I posted earlier (to Thecurrent blog) mentions that the video of Syrcause show will be included, with the audio for that having been remastered too. 



So still another DVD yet to be detailed.... so until we get the WB press release detailing content who knows what is still to be confirmed....

I'm sure we'll see it this Friday.


 


And it has been confirmed that a proper long version of 17 Days exists. I was really hoping that it would be released on this package.


 


Right, that's the last time I moan about no long 17 Days. At least for 2 Days...



Not 17 extended days? 😜😜
Reply #189 posted 04/19/17 6:56pm

OnlyNDaUsa

disc 3 is 75 Mins long that is about the length of 2 albums... they could have given them spread out on 2 cds... so i am fine with this set

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #190 posted 04/19/17 6:56pm

bluegangsta

purpleprime said:

bluegangsta said:

That's an absolute cop-out.

If WB had delivered what they promised - two discs of unreleased material (a healthy mix of leaked and unleaked stuff) - the would be no complaints.

Stop trying to justify poor decision making just because you part with your money easily.

[Edited 4/19/17 18:35pm]

I dont part with my money easily.....but id prefer all those b-sides that are actually associated with the singles of that album "Purple Rain" ...to all be together.....that's all.....if they wernt they would only release a "B-sides collection" ...somewhere down there line, which I would end up spending on again anway....

Most of the b-sides could have followed the album on disc 1. In either case, that doesn't justify clogging up disc 2 with edits that barely have an audience.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #191 posted 04/19/17 6:58pm

jjam

jstar69 said:

jjam said:

I'm sure we'll see it this Friday.

And it has been confirmed that a proper long version of 17 Days exists. I was really hoping that it would be released on this package.

Right, that's the last time I moan about no long 17 Days. At least for 2 Days...

Not 17 extended days? 😜😜

We'll see wink

Reply #192 posted 04/19/17 6:59pm

KlyphIsBackAgain

OnlyNDaUsa said:

disc 3 is 75 Mins long that is about the length of 2 albums... they could have given them spread out on 2 cds... so i am fine with this set


 



Oh yeah! I forgot, the press release DID say 2 "albums", NOT CDs!! I let the internet mess up my comprehension skills. Thanks Only!
Reply #193 posted 04/19/17 7:02pm

luvsexy4all

why all the bellyaching....u got ext tracks and unreleased tracks....buy the MFer and they'll release more

Reply #194 posted 04/19/17 7:03pm

luv4u

Moderator

moderator

Interesting. I'll believe it when it drops

Edmonton, AB - canada

Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
Reply #195 posted 04/19/17 7:07pm

UncleJam

If this is what it is, they get no complaints from me. Prince's Dance Electric and a studio Electric Intercourse? With pristine sound quality? Sign me up...

Make it so, Number One...
Reply #196 posted 04/19/17 7:08pm

purpleprime

bluegangsta said:

purpleprime said:

I dont part with my money easily.....but id prefer all those b-sides that are actually associated with the singles of that album "Purple Rain" ...to all be together.....that's all.....if they wernt they would only release a "B-sides collection" ...somewhere down there line, which I would end up spending on again anway....

Most of the b-sides could have followed the album on disc 1. In either case, that doesn't justify clogging up disc 2 with edits that barely have an audience.

I hear ya....but either way...im sure there's much more suprise's to come to keep us all happy, seemed like only yesterday the 4ever compilation was released. So we will all be holding 1999 Deluxe, Parade Deluxe and SOTT Deluxe in no time!!......Ive longed for years to hear SOTT especially remastered with some Dream Factory tracks...and especiallywnat to hear the remastered angel vocals of "Adore" beg

[Edited 4/19/17 19:09pm]

Reply #197 posted 04/19/17 7:08pm

Fizer

Disc 3 will be my summer soundtrack.

Reply #198 posted 04/19/17 7:34pm

eyewishuheaven

OnlyNDaUsa said:

disc 3 is 75 Mins long that is about the length of 2 albums... they could have given them spread out on 2 cds... so i am fine with this set


I wonder if they'll spin it that way: 2 'albums' on one disc? They did say albums in the press release, not discs specifically.

And for what it's worth, you can't get more than 80 mins of music on a cd, so at 76 mins, that disc is pretty much packed.

Excited for the release. Hope there's juicy liner notes.

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #199 posted 04/19/17 7:38pm

oliviacamron

Sifi said:

= = = = = = = 


 


Hi guys,

just to clear up some of the comments in this thread, which seem to be based on presumptions.

I ask you to have some trust in this post; please be aware that my sources have asked to shed some light on the leaked tracklist:



Father's Song is the full 5 minute, completely unheard, finished studio version. Mixed, mastered, multi-layered keyboard parts and all.



Electric Intercourse is the finished studio version we didn't even knew existed for sure! NOT the 1983 rehearsal.



Possessed is a completely different vocal version than has ever been circulating



Katrina's Paper Dolls is not the known, circulating version



Computer Blue and Dance Electric: the full, mastered, HQ version that always deserved a proper release.



We Can Fuck is the epic 10 minute work-out that no-one has ever heard. Prince´s drumming on this one is right up there with any classic p-funk track you know.


We´re really, literally, talking about Straight From The VAULT material here.


Obviously, it's impossible for me at this moment to submit some form of proof to back up my claim, but all I ask for you is to wait 'till the release is out there before we all pass judgment. If I turn out to be wrong, I´ll be the first to acknowlegde! But I am positive MINDS WILL BE BLOWN!



Also, disc 2 does contain prev.released material, but you will be surprised on the mastering done and sound quality!

For now, patience and best wishes. It´s a tough week for all of us.

Sifi

= = = = = =


[Edited 4/19/17 13:20pm]

[Edited 4/19/17 13:21pm]


I thought Sex Shooter with Prince on vocals was supposed to be on it. Does anyone know if that even exist?
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
Reply #200 posted 04/19/17 7:47pm

luvgirl

I'm super excited about disc 3! Even if we have some of them already, these will be in better quality than anything we have! To get my hands on a good quality Wonderful Ass, Electric Intercourse and Dance Electric with Prince vocals! eek
Who could be mad at that? I'm happy today, I'll be sad enough on Friday.. sad
I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
Reply #201 posted 04/19/17 7:50pm

kingricefan

I'm not going to complain. While I am a huge fan, I have never heard any of the songs that are going to be on disc 3 (if this really is the official tracks) so it's all going to be new to me. I don't have access to most of the things that the uber collectors do, so I'm going to be driving around in my car blasting these songs out my car windows for all to hear.

Reply #202 posted 04/19/17 7:52pm

donnyenglish

Where is G Spot?
Reply #203 posted 04/19/17 7:55pm

bluegangsta

donnyenglish said:

Where is G Spot?

Assuming you're a man; up your ass.

[Edited 4/19/17 19:56pm]

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #204 posted 04/19/17 8:00pm

dance4me3121

bluegangsta said:

 



donnyenglish said:


Where is G Spot?

Assuming you're a man; up your ass.

[Edited 4/19/17 19:56pm]


lol
[Edited 4/19/17 20:00pm]
Reply #205 posted 04/19/17 8:20pm

TrevorAyer

I don't believe it ... disk 2 is rubbish ... neither prince or WB have any reason to reduce sales with 'we can fuck' on the packaging .. this set suggests an our destiny roadhouse live medley but the recent road house leak was stand alone studio masterpiece ... and i doubt prince called computer blue the "hallway speach version" that sounds more like a fan invented title ... hard to believe .. we will see
Reply #206 posted 04/19/17 8:20pm

EddieC

Okay, tough to say exactly how I feel (since we don't know the selling price or the video portions for certain), but I'm pretty okay with this. Several unreleased tracks I don't have (and I'm still hopeful, despite Moonbeam Levels, that they'll actually sound okay--though, at the same time, if they do sound okay it might be because someone messed with them other than Prince), and unless it's pretty expensive, I'm not complaining about the previously released stuff. Sure, I have it somewhere already, but not all together and not all on pressed discs, so, again depending on price, I'm okay with their inclusion. I do wonder if there's any chance that there will be different versions of the package. A 5 disc with all the material, and as an alternative maybe a 2 disc with just the original and the unreleased tracks--I'm guessing that might fit some people's desires a bit better than what it looks like will be the full package.

Reply #207 posted 04/19/17 8:34pm

Moonbeam

Obviously, as fans we want more, but for what this is, it's decent. Disc 3 has a lot of great treats as well as some tracks I haven't heard before. Would I love a 5-disc version (plus the DVDs)? Of course! But I'll still happily pick this up, if for "Possessed" and "Computer Blue (Hallway Verson)" alone.

Feel free to join in the Prince Song Poll 2016! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince songs, as decided by you!
Reply #208 posted 04/19/17 8:38pm

mbdtyler

Disc 2 is cool for the completionists, I guess, but there's not much I'm interested in there. Disc 3 though? I'm gonna be jamming to that shit all summer cool Maybe some of y'all have been listening to a lot of those songs for years, but you can't complain about getting them in better quality.

Reply #209 posted 04/19/17 8:45pm

renfield

The single edits are unnecessary (especially after "4Ever") but I'm cool with this. And if they want to release a 35th anniversary version with all the extended album tracks (and all of them except "When Doves Cry" have one) then I'll buy it again. Just keep taking my money WB.

Reply #210 posted 04/19/17 9:21pm

EnDoRpHn

Just saw a post on FB claiming that the OP was served with a copyright takedown notice by WBR.

Reply #211 posted 04/19/17 9:22pm

oliviacamron

renfield said:

The single edits are unnecessary (especially after "4Ever") but I'm cool with this. And if they want to release a 35th anniversary version with all the extended album tracks (and all of them except "When Doves Cry" have one) then I'll buy it again. Just keep taking my money WB.


I hate single edits mad
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
Reply #212 posted 04/19/17 9:23pm

EnDoRpHn

.snip.

[Edited 4/19/17 21:23pm]

Reply #213 posted 04/19/17 9:27pm

oliviacamron

EnDoRpHn said:

.snip.

[Edited 4/19/17 21:23pm]


[i] I'll just snip myself
[Edited 4/19/17 21:29pm]
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
Reply #214 posted 04/19/17 9:37pm

luv4u

Moderator

moderator

EnDoRpHn said:

Just saw a post on FB claiming that the OP was served with a copyright takedown notice by WBR.


nod

Edmonton, AB - canada

Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
Reply #215 posted 04/19/17 9:38pm

FunkiestOne

As others have pointed out, the 7" single edits are worthless. They are arbitrary edits, just for radio play. And the full songs are on Disc 1, so what a waste of precious space. The extended versions are fine to have on there, of course, even though some were released in CD quality in the past.

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Does anyone even buy CDs any longer? It seems pointless to arrange the material in 70 minute chunks.

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But there is a lot of goodness on Disc 3 and not their fault that hardcore fans have heard most if it already.

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[Edited 4/19/17 21:39pm]

Reply #216 posted 04/19/17 9:43pm

luv4u

Moderator

moderator

FunkiestOne said:

As others have pointed out, the 7" single edits are worthless. They are arbitrary edits, just for radio play. And the full songs are on Disc 1, so what a waste of precious space. The extended versions are fine to have on there, of course, even though some were released in CD quality in the past.

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Does anyone even buy CDs any longer? It seems pointless to arrange the material in 70 minute chunks.

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But there is a lot of goodness on Disc 3 and not their fault that hardcore fans have heard most if it already.

.

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[Edited 4/19/17 21:39pm]



CDs, digital, and vinyl smile

Edmonton, AB - canada

Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
Reply #217 posted 04/19/17 9:49pm

FunkiestOne

And i'm glad Velvet Kitty Kat is on there. l like that little ditty.

Reply #218 posted 04/19/17 9:57pm

FunkiestOne

Pgeishirt said:

Would a Computer Blue fan please tell me if this "hallway" version, whatever does that mean?, is the one to hear or do I have to keep looking?

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it is not my favorite one. There is a version that is even longer with slow, building intro of squealing guitar and no Hallway speech (which is slightly corny). This version they chose will be great for you if you've never heard the one I'm talking about. I'm disappointed that they didn't include that one, but it was a bit more raw.

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[Edited 4/19/17 21:59pm]

Reply #219 posted 04/19/17 10:12pm

jaawwnn

Single edits are not arbitrary, they're quite specific. For many people they would be the first way they heard a lot of the tracks back in 1984/5 and they're an insight into how music was written, recorded and sold when this album came out.

You may have no interest, fair enough, but you'd be foolish to assume that on this release the single edits are taking the place of something else. Just because we know more songs and versions of songs exist doesn't mean Warner have any intention of releasing them (this time round).

Reply #220 posted 04/19/17 10:23pm

jstar69

Brace yourselves for a single release...
Reply #221 posted 04/19/17 10:40pm

datdude

wow, ungrateful sob's most of u are. i mean REALL-AYE! i'm SO copping this. for his version of the dance electric alone which i HAVEN'T heard along with other goodies.

Reply #222 posted 04/19/17 10:49pm

thedance

jaawwnn said:

Single edits are not arbitrary, they're quite specific. For many people they would be the first way they heard a lot of the tracks back in 1984/5 and they're an insight into how music was written, recorded and sold when this album came out.

You may have no interest, fair enough, but you'd be foolish to assume that on this release the single edits are taking the place of something else. Just because we know more songs and versions of songs exist doesn't mean Warner have any intention of releasing them (this time round).

I agree with you Jaawwnn! nod

Back then the single edits were (also) used in the musicvideos, like "Let's Go Crazy", the short version.

Those "Single edits" were the versions people was hearing, first, both in radio and on Tv (most of the time).

[Edited 4/19/17 22:50pm]

Prince 4Ever. heart
Reply #223 posted 04/19/17 11:03pm

NewpowerScarfo

WB still has news to announce (hopefully as soon as this weekend). We need to see the package deluxe cover box art. Will it include pictures? When it will be available for pre order? The price? and the two concert blu rays or dvds? Still lots of info that needs to be shared. WB can take my money on this project.

Reply #224 posted 04/19/17 11:07pm

thedance

oliviacamron said:

renfield said:

The single edits are unnecessary (especially after "4Ever") but I'm cool with this. And if they want to release a 35th anniversary version with all the extended album tracks (and all of them except "When Doves Cry" have one) then I'll buy it again. Just keep taking my money WB.

I hate single edits mad

ok olivia fine... biggrin

but...... you are getting the extended version and the album version as well. cool

I like (some) of the single edits like "Alphabet Street" & "Batdance" (on the 4Ever compilation)

Because I was playing these on 7 inch vinyls, back then in 88/ 89, nice for me to have these "short edits" on Cd...

To me it's cool to own all versions from the PR-album, single & album & extended.

Bring me this purple rain-package. And incling those 2 Dvd's......

I can't wait til june 2017, been looking forward to this release soooo very very long..

At least I can't hide, I am a bit excited.... woot!

(maybe this set is aimed at the broader masses who are not that familiar with the vinyls stuff, from back then, ok I can see this - I am still a bit excited, though)




Prince 4Ever. heart
Reply #225 posted 04/20/17 12:11am

Sifi

love2thenines2003 said:

love2thenines2003 said:
Do u know if other reissues with outtakes from WB Albums catalogue are planned? 1000 thanx
Are the songs from WB Vault or Paisley Park Vault?

Paisley Park Vault.

Reply #226 posted 04/20/17 12:31am

dustoff

Wonder which version of "Possessed" we'll get. An edited and cleaned up version of the 8:46-ish track, or something completely different?

Reply #227 posted 04/20/17 12:36am

dustoff

...And the combined running time of "Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden" from the Birthday show is at least 8 minutes, not 6:25. Even if they clipped the intros/fadeouts and audience noise, they still wouldn't land at 6:25. Maybe this is a studio version?

Reply #228 posted 04/20/17 12:48am

love2thenines2003

Sifi said:

love2thenines2003 said:

love2thenines2003 said: Are the songs from WB Vault or Paisley Park Vault?

Paisley Park Vault.

GOOD NEWS

This means i guess that the tapes & the others from the same era are in good shape & preserved !!

Works has been made from the MASTERS?

[Edited 4/20/17 0:48am]

[Edited 4/20/17 0:49am]

Reply #229 posted 04/20/17 1:15am

SoulAlive

EnDoRpHn said:

Just saw a post on FB claiming that the OP was served with a copyright takedown notice by WBR.

Why are Warners acting so secretive about this release? rolleyes The info is out there,let the fans enjoy the news! They should have given us a full tracklist weeks ago! I don't like the way they're delaying things and now they're apparenty still trying to keep this info under wraps....wtf

Reply #230 posted 04/20/17 1:17am

SoulAlive

donnyenglish said:

Where is G Spot?

Such a shame that this song isn't included.It's one of my favorites from that era.

Reply #231 posted 04/20/17 1:18am

chripin

And what about G-Spot, Wednesday, All Day All Night, Mama, Cold Coffee & Cocaine, Manic Monday & Traffic Jam instead of the edits?

Reply #232 posted 04/20/17 1:22am

Sifi

dustoff said:

Wonder which version of "Possessed" we'll get.  An edited and cleaned up version of the 8:46-ish track, or something completely different?



Different to any of the circulating versions!
Reply #233 posted 04/20/17 1:34am

TheEnglishGent

Info about disc 3 from a blog link someone posted earlier :

http://blog.thecurrent.or...cordings/




Disc 3: From the Vault

The Dance Electric – 11:29

This song is best-known from André Cymone’s 1985 recording; Prince also occasionally performed it live.

Love & Sex – 5:00

A previously unreleased song from the Purple Rain sessions.

Computer Blue (Hallway Speech Version) – 12:18

A previously unreleased version of this track, including a section known as the “hallway speech” because it refers to a metaphorical passage through hallways marked “lust” and “fear.”

Velvet Kitty Cat – 2:42

A previously unreleased recording.

Katrina’s Paper Dolls – 3:30

A demo version of this song has circulated, but this finished master has never before been heard.

We Can Fuck – 10:17

This song was released on Graffiti Bridge as a George Clinton collaboration called “We Can Funk.” This earlier version has never before circulated at its full ten-minute length.

Electric Intercourse (Studio Version) – 4:57

Live versions of this song have circulated, but this studio recording has never before been heard — and was not even previously known to exist.

Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden – 6:25

These two songs, connected by a segue, have been performed live.

Possessed – 7:56

This song was widely performed live, and a 1984 recording has been circulated; this is an earlier, never-before-heard 1983 Prince solo version.

Wonderful Ass – 6:24

A previously unreleased collaboration with Wendy and Lisa.

Father’s Song – 5:30

One of the holy grails of Prince’s Vault, this piano piece co-written by Prince and his father is heard briefly in the film. It’s previously been heard only in an abbreviated version taken from the film — never before at its full length.

[Edited 4/20/17 1:34am]

RIP sad
Reply #234 posted 04/20/17 1:35am

darkroman

Disc 2 is totally expected so shouldn't be a shock to anyone - I can imagine there will be a stripped down 2 disc edition of just discs 1 and 2.

.

Disc 3 looks great.

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I'll have to read through these pages to find if there is an analysis of these tracks, such as recording dates and any other background. I'm sure there are already multiple versions of these tracks.

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I do think that sometimes it is an impossible task to please people so I can imagine the label had a really hard time putting this together but I think they have done really well to bring us a full disc of new tracks.

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lol lol lol

Reply #235 posted 04/20/17 1:36am

thisisreece

Disc 3 isn't bad at all, though I wonder how cohesive it will play. Will it feel like an album or just a bunch of collected outtakes?

Disc 2 is a disappointment. Who really wants the single edits? There's still plenty of outtakes they could have included instead.

Although, I would have been happy having unreleased alternate versions, such as the extended/unedited versions of Computer Blue, Darling Nikki, The Beautiful Ones, I Would Die 4 U (live at the benefit show), with the Let's Go Crazy Dance Mix, and the b-sides.

Hundalasiliah!
Reply #236 posted 04/20/17 2:05am

BartVanHemelen

Graycap23 said:

Wow......they need their asses whipped for this.

This is a MAJOR letdown.

Who the hell needs a disk of 7" edits?

Where is the list of songs from the other artists that appeared on the movie?

There is only 1 song on the Prince Disk 3 that we don't already have.

What a letdown.

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Gotta love how people pretend that WBR are to blame, and not the dude who blocked these kind of releases for decades.

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That said: this would have been a decent release as a first attempt back in say... 1999 (15th anniversary). Barely good enough in 2004. In 2017? Pathetic. We should be getting alternate versions for most album tracks, at least several concerts, relevant outtakes (no "Wednesday"?),...

.

Oh well, let's hope the estate gets their shit together soon and that WBR et al collaborate with Princologists to deliver a stunning package in... 2019?

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Reply #237 posted 04/20/17 2:14am

BartVanHemelen

IstenSzek said:

so why is it taking them forever and a day to release this tracklist?

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Do you lot know NOTHING about hype, release schedules, embargoes, etc.?

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Reply #238 posted 04/20/17 2:19am

BartVanHemelen

MIRvmn said:

Doozer said:


Well, I still believe that Prince had a hand in this release, and WB may have compromised on a number of things with him.

How Prince approved including "We Can Fuck" is beyond me, though.

and Erotic City. Prince didn't want it on Ultimate Prince so it was removed on the final configuration

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So? Prince didn't have anything to negociate with back in 2014. Warners might have been playing nice with those previous compilations etc., but this time they had no reason to.

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Reply #239 posted 04/20/17 2:21am

fabriziovenerandi

BartVanHemelen said:

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Gotta love how people pretend that WBR are to blame, and not the dude who blocked these kind of releases for decades.

.

That said: this would have been a decent release as a first attempt back in say... 1999 (15th anniversary). Barely good enough in 2004. In 2017? Pathetic. We should be getting alternate versions for most album tracks, at least several concerts, relevant outtakes (no "Wednesday"?),...

.

Oh well, let's hope the estate gets their shit together soon and that WBR et al collaborate with Princologists to deliver a stunning package in... 2019?

.

The dude was still making new music. He was the creator, not me, not you. You are only a consumer.

Me, you, prince.orgers have not any kind of right over music he created.

Prince is dead, we are only still searching crumbs to eat under the table of his creativity.

"Stunning package"? Who really cares. It's time to quit adolescence.

[Edited 4/20/17 2:23am]

Reply #240 posted 04/20/17 2:37am

BartVanHemelen

TheFman said:

soladeo1 said:

Frankly I'd pay $50 cold hard cash JUST for a re-mastered 9 track PURPLE RAIN.

Prince's 80's albums are so in need of a fresh sonic shine.


I wouldn't give a dime for any remastered version of any album of any artist.
How it came out is how it's supposed to sound.
get yourself the original vinyl album (no fancy 180 gr rubbish) and a high-end turntable and audio installation, and there's no need for any remastered PR album!

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Utter BS. Those vinyl releases are already compromises. Have you ever been to a recording studio and listened to a recording on their $100,000 speakers?

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Reply #241 posted 04/20/17 2:46am

BartVanHemelen

Dibblekins said:

ForceofNature said:

I had the great pleasure of meeting and speaking with Susan Rogers about this release fairly recently and based on what she said about the care they are putting into finding the right versions in the vaults, I think its ok to get excited haha. The fact that she seemed pleased at the care WB is taking for this release is enough for me to feel excited for it, and to have full studio mastered versions of my favorite Prince outtakes makes this great for me.

When she told me they were scouring the vaults making sure the specific version of Wonderful Ass coming out is the one that Prince would have wanted out - that sealed the deal for me.

To me, that suggests Prince hadn't okayed a disc containing unreleased tracks from the vault - because you'd think he would have already selected the versions he wanted on any such disc.

.

To me it suggests Prince was blocking/sabotaging this release (hence it not appearing in 2015), and the estate now helping out WBR deliver a decent package so the ongoing contract (between WBR and Prince) can be moved on.

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Reply #242 posted 04/20/17 2:48am

BartVanHemelen

jaawwnn said:

as i've said multiple times in this thread, there should be another cd of unreleased music on this release.


For clarity, and if anyone is interested, here is a copy of the original press release by Warner where they clearly state that included will be two cd's of unreleased music which, assuming this list is correct, is not the case.

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Technically those tracks are unreleased in this particular mastering version. See also: WBR's claims WRT "previously unreleased on CD" tracks on 4Ever. This is record company speak.

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Reply #243 posted 04/20/17 2:51am

BartVanHemelen

bluegangsta said:

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

purpleprime said: Not only that but I remember when this set was first announced people on these boards were saying that the extended versions/etc NEEDED to be in this set for completion. What can I say, it's the internet....

The extended versions are needed. The edited versions are not - we already have them numerous times over and no one really cares for them.

[Edited 4/19/17 18:38pm]

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Nonsense. These packages NEED to include all those things, in equal mastering quality. You shouldn't need to seek out dozens of other releases to collect these all, they should be part of a single package. But they're the bare minimum, especially WRT Prince.

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Reply #244 posted 04/20/17 2:58am

BartVanHemelen

OnlyNDaUsa said:

disc 3 is 75 Mins long that is about the length of 2 albums... they could have given them spread out on 2 cds... so i am fine with this set

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Oh come on. You lot seriously come up with the lamest excuses. This is a compilation, and thus there is no reason to apply an arbitrary limit based on the limitations of an outdated format.

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Reply #245 posted 04/20/17 3:21am

OnlyNDaUsa

BartVanHemelen said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

disc 3 is 75 Mins long that is about the length of 2 albums... they could have given them spread out on 2 cds... so i am fine with this set

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Oh come on. You lot seriously come up with the lamest excuses. This is a compilation, and thus there is no reason to apply an arbitrary limit based on the limitations of an outdated format.

well, at least it was a positive. We are getting 2 album's worth of stuff

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #246 posted 04/20/17 3:30am

TheEnglishGent

OnlyNDaUsa said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Oh come on. You lot seriously come up with the lamest excuses. This is a compilation, and thus there is no reason to apply an arbitrary limit based on the limitations of an outdated format.

well, at least it was a positive. We are getting 2 album's worth of stuff

Supposed to be getting two albums of unreleased stuff. I'm happy with disc 3, but was expecting another disc like that.

RIP sad
Reply #247 posted 04/20/17 3:33am

OnlyNDaUsa

TheEnglishGent said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

well, at least it was a positive. We are getting 2 album's worth of stuff

Supposed to be getting two albums of unreleased stuff. I'm happy with disc 3, but was expecting another disc like that.

me too! given what we know is out there! Like the longer "Beautiful ones."

I was hoping for stuff I had not even heard of... (and I am not whining about having most of this stuff in some form). I just hope this is not indicative of what is really in the vault.

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #248 posted 04/20/17 3:38am

master

abit gutted by tracklist . no associated artists apollonia, time or modernaire or wednesday because that is probably an ssociated artist song. no demos

even the casual fans would prefer that to 7" edits of tracks .That is just an easy/lazy option. Now we have same song about 3 times and not even the more interesting demoes like beautiful ones and extended purple rain with extra lyrics just edits. .

I hope they did not listen to databank as he kept crying that only prince could be on it and it looks like earlier tracklist got changed so they have listened to some fans just not the right ones. . He as got the tracklist he deserves. He is probably jumping for joy and living the dream. . But like a punch in the gut to me .

Even the casaul fan will not want shorten versions. Having same song 3 times will bore them they could have had associated stuff .

1st disc. why just leave at purple rain only you could have 50 minutes more on that?.

why spred this thing out and give as little as possible.?

easy money like i said . it as descent songs but it is the minimum expected and could have been so much more.

Reply #249 posted 04/20/17 3:39am

MIRvmn

TheEnglishGent said:

 



OnlyNDaUsa said:


 



BartVanHemelen said:


 


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Oh come on. You lot seriously come up with the lamest excuses. This is a compilation, and thus there is no reason to apply an arbitrary limit based on the limitations of an outdated format.



 


 


well, at least it was a positive. We are getting 2 album's worth of stuff



Supposed to be getting two albums of unreleased stuff. I'm happy with disc 3, but was expecting another disc like that.


Yes I'm also very disappointed that there's not 2 albums of unreleased music as they promised so I'm not that excited about this release.
Thunder, all through the night
Promise to see Jesus in the morning light
Take my hand, it'll be alright
C'mon save your soul tonight
Reply #250 posted 04/20/17 3:39am

TheFman

BartVanHemelen said:

TheFman said:


I wouldn't give a dime for any remastered version of any album of any artist.
How it came out is how it's supposed to sound.
get yourself the original vinyl album (no fancy 180 gr rubbish) and a high-end turntable and audio installation, and there's no need for any remastered PR album!

.

Utter BS. Those vinyl releases are already compromises. Have you ever been to a recording studio and listened to a recording on their $100,000 speakers?

There are two things with remasters:
1- the overall sound quality (your point above)

2- differences in mixing: my point. For example, remastered Megadeth's Hangar 18 compared to the original one is a completely different beast. Sure the sound is 'better' but the mixing is totally wrong. Just the intro alone, where other instruments get to the foreground much more. THIS is not how it's supposed to sound. Is it was, they would have done it back than. That's my issue with remasters.

Reply #251 posted 04/20/17 3:42am

MIRvmn

master said:

abit gutted  by tracklist . no associated artists apollonia, time or modernaire or wednesday because that is probably an ssociated artist song. no demos


even the casual fans would prefer that to 7" edits of tracks .That is just an easy/lazy  option. Now we have same song about 3 times and not even the more interesting  demoes like beautiful ones and extended purple rain with extra lyrics just edits. .


I hope they did  not listen to databank as he kept crying that only  prince  could be on it and it looks like earlier tracklist got changed so they have listened to some fans just not the right ones. . He as got the tracklist he deserves. He is probably jumping for joy and living the dream. .  But like a punch in the gut to me .


Even the casaul fan will not want shorten versions. Having same song 3 times will bore them they could have had associated stuff .


1st disc. why just leave at purple rain only you could have 50 minutes more on that?.


why spred this thing out and give as little as possible.?


easy money like i said . it as descent songs  but it is the minimum expected and could have been so much more.


Yes this release could have been something really special, disc 2 feels like slap in the face, such a waste
Thunder, all through the night
Promise to see Jesus in the morning light
Take my hand, it'll be alright
C'mon save your soul tonight
Reply #252 posted 04/20/17 3:48am

PURPLEIZED3121

BartVanHemelen said:

Graycap23 said:

Wow......they need their asses whipped for this.

This is a MAJOR letdown.

Who the hell needs a disk of 7" edits?

Where is the list of songs from the other artists that appeared on the movie?

There is only 1 song on the Prince Disk 3 that we don't already have.

What a letdown.

.

Gotta love how people pretend that WBR are to blame, and not the dude who blocked these kind of releases for decades.

.

That said: this would have been a decent release as a first attempt back in say... 1999 (15th anniversary). Barely good enough in 2004. In 2017? Pathetic. We should be getting alternate versions for most album tracks, at least several concerts, relevant outtakes (no "Wednesday"?),...

.

Oh well, let's hope the estate gets their shit together soon and that WBR et al collaborate with Princologists to deliver a stunning package in... 2019?

ha we live in hope. Estate & those advising really do seem clueless. The sooner they get fans input the better. I fear the same frustrations we have with our beloved Prince will continue for years to come...by that time I'll be deaf & rockin in a wheel chair in an OAP's home!

Reply #253 posted 04/20/17 4:04am

SuperFurryAnimal

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Gotta love how people pretend that WBR are to blame, and not the dude who blocked these kind of releases for decades.

.

That said: this would have been a decent release as a first attempt back in say... 1999 (15th anniversary). Barely good enough in 2004. In 2017? Pathetic. We should be getting alternate versions for most album tracks, at least several concerts, relevant outtakes (no "Wednesday"?),...

.

Oh well, let's hope the estate gets their shit together soon and that WBR et al collaborate with Princologists to deliver a stunning package in... 2019?

ha we live in hope. Estate & those advising really do seem clueless. The sooner they get fans input the better. I fear the same frustrations we have with our beloved Prince will continue for years to come...by that time I'll be deaf & rockin in a wheel chair in an OAP's home!

haaahaaahaahaaaaaa MOOOOO!!!!! Look into the Crytal Ball. Purple Rain Deluxe edition volume 3 in 2027. $$$ Cow. MoooBart!

Reply #254 posted 04/20/17 4:39am

donnyenglish

bluegangsta said:

 



donnyenglish said:


Where is G Spot?

Assuming you're a man; up your ass.

[Edited 4/19/17 19:56pm]



FINALLY, someone with a real sense of humor.
Reply #255 posted 04/20/17 4:43am

jaypotton

Clearly disappointing that the "two albums of unreleased material" actually equates to just one CD worth (I think WB were being tricksy with their wording and will use the excuse that you cannot call it "two CDs" for people who buy it as a download. In addition if this is also released on vinyl then CD3 WILL have to be spread over two "albums".

Nonetheless the press release was misleading.

That aside CD2 was obvious. It was ALWAYS going to be single edits and 12 inch edits and b-sides. It is a set for completists and that is the complete set of officially released tracks for Purple Rain.

Would hardcore fans have preferred alternate versions of songs - hell yeah!

Somebody above complained that the single edits and b-sides could have been on CD1 after the Purple Rain album = NO NO NO. That would be plain wrong. PR remastered and experienced as originally intended only please!

CD3 looks damn good to me. Yes like many people I have most of these on bootleg but if these are truly in pristine quality then I am really excited.

I too am surprised to see We Can Fuck and Wonderful Ass. It certainly says to me that Prince had no involvement in THIS version of the PR remaster...

In fact I speculate that Prince's version of the remaster would have ONLY had one or two unreleased songs with Electric Intercourse being almost certain (as he played it live for the first time in years in 2014). Pure speculation but I think the Prince approved PR remaster would have been two CDs with CD1 being PR and CD2 being b-sides, 12 inch edits, possibly one of the alternate Computer Blue versions and one or two unreleased.

Quite why PR got delayed I guess we might never really know.

At the end of the day despite all the bitching on this thread I bet almost everyone on the ORG will buy this anyway!

We should all want this to be a big success because if it is it will encourage WBR (and hopefully Universal if they can satisfy themselves with the post 1995 releases and vault) to get the ball rolling on more deluxe and vault releases.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #256 posted 04/20/17 4:50am

BartVanHemelen

TheFman said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Utter BS. Those vinyl releases are already compromises. Have you ever been to a recording studio and listened to a recording on their $100,000 speakers?

There are two things with remasters:
1- the overall sound quality (your point above)

2- differences in mixing: my point. For example, remastered Megadeth's Hangar 18 compared to the original one is a completely different beast. Sure the sound is 'better' but the mixing is totally wrong. Just the intro alone, where other instruments get to the foreground much more. THIS is not how it's supposed to sound. Is it was, they would have done it back than. That's my issue with remasters.

.

Using Megadeath as an example is ridiculous. Mustaine fucked so much with those. Those weren't remasters, those were Mustaine rewriting history and "fixing" errors caused by him being blind drunk at the time. Using those as examples is like using that painting of Jesus as restored by that old lady as evidence of how restoration is a bad thing.

.

Instead, look up the Dylan remasters from a couple of years ago.

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Reply #257 posted 04/20/17 4:53am

paulludvig

Looking forward to the 10 min version of WCF. I have a 10 min version already, but that one features overdubs by George Clinton. Wonder what this version is like.
The wooh is on the one!
Reply #258 posted 04/20/17 4:53am

FUNKNROLL

Looking forward to CD3.

CD2 seems odd after considering the legend that he turned in around / over 100 songs for the Purple Rain project. Why not throw in a CD w/a "Runner Up" tracklist?

Reply #259 posted 04/20/17 4:56am

master

jaypotton said:

Would hardcore fans have preferred alternate versions of songs - hell yeah! Somebody above complained that the single edits and b-sides could have been on CD1 after the Purple Rain album = NO NO NO. That would be plain wrong. PR remastered and experienced as originally intended only please!

it would not been wrong to fill the rest of disc 1 with musics? you would not want 50 minutes more on your disc. . of course you would.

you could always stop you disc after 9 tracks or just program in 9 tracks.if want to listen to just album.

An absolute waste and again listening to fans is a bad idea if this is the way they think . .We want more music not less. . It lets them get away with giving less stuff out saying just want 30 minutes music on disc.

Reply #260 posted 04/20/17 4:58am

hw3004

i think the edits are historically important and should be on the set...just don't think I'll be listening to them that often..

Reply #261 posted 04/20/17 5:00am

tbokris

What are the chances this 3 cd set will be released on vinyl in full? The second and thid discs would need to be spread across 3 vinyls at least.

It would be great if it was a 3 vinyl set of the PR album + non 7" mixes of the b-sides plus the 3rd disc.


I imagine a remastered single vinyl of the album only

Reply #262 posted 04/20/17 5:01am

master

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

The sooner they get fans input the better. I fear the same frustrations we have with our beloved Prince will continue for years to come...by that time I'll be deaf & rockin in a wheel chair in an OAP's home!

again a big no to listen to fans. Databank cried like a girl and wanted no associated stuff so they listened i think as earlier tracklist we got shown had them on.. And the last fan said only wants 30 minutes on discs 1 when could have an extra 50 minutes music. They just need someones who know what there doing and be generous on a release and give you a decent release which would have been easy with this

Rather than milking it and giving you as little as possible so afew years down the line the release another version. The star wars syndrome

Reply #263 posted 04/20/17 5:04am

jaypotton

master said:

 



jaypotton said:


 Would hardcore fans have preferred alternate versions of songs - hell yeah! Somebody above complained that the single edits and b-sides could have been on CD1 after the Purple Rain album = NO NO NO. That would be plain wrong. PR remastered and experienced as originally intended only please!  

it would not been wrong to fill the rest of disc 1 with musics? you would not want 50 minutes more on your disc. . of course you would.


you could always stop you disc after 9 tracks or just program in 9 tracks.if want to listen to just album.


An absolute waste and again listening to fans is a bad idea if this is the way they think . .We want more music not less. . It lets them get away with giving less stuff out saying just want 30 minutes music on disc.



Oh for sure I would want more music (it would be about 35 mins more if I am being pedantic) but personally I would prefer that on another CD and keep the "album" as intended. Remember it will also be bought as a download so those unknowing youngsters may think all those b-sides were part of the "album". Maybe I am just old school but I would want to protect the integrity of the "album" Prince created biggrin

The other thing people need to recognise is that, as Billy Sparks said, "this is a bidness mother fucker" [sic] and WB don't want to blow all their exploitable assets in one go. They can milk the Vault for years to come and can even milk PR further with the ultimate super duper deluxe edition with the 2 track demo version of the solo bass track intended for When Doves Cry included (I am joking but you see the point...record companies are still exploiting the Beatles recordings years later by releasing ever more obscure versions of known songs etc).
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #264 posted 04/20/17 5:06am

jaypotton

master said:

 



PURPLEIZED3121 said:


 



The sooner they get fans input the better. I fear the same frustrations we have with our beloved Prince will continue for years to come...by that time I'll be deaf & rockin in a wheel chair in an OAP's home!




again a big no to listen to fans. Databank cried like a girl and wanted no  associated stuff so they listened i think as earlier tracklist   we got shown had them on.. And the last fan  said only wants 30 minutes on discs 1 when could have an extra 50 minutes music. They just need someones who know what there doing and be generous on a release and give you a decent release which would have been easy with this


 Rather than milking it and giving you as little as possible so afew years down the line the release another version. The star wars syndrome



Disagree with you there. None of the associated artist material should have been included. There deserves to be a separate associated artist remasters.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #265 posted 04/20/17 5:07am

master

jaypotton said:

master said:

it would not been wrong to fill the rest of disc 1 with musics? you would not want 50 minutes more on your disc. . of course you would.

you could always stop you disc after 9 tracks or just program in 9 tracks.if want to listen to just album.

An absolute waste and again listening to fans is a bad idea if this is the way they think . .We want more music not less. . It lets them get away with giving less stuff out saying just want 30 minutes music on disc.

Oh for sure I would want more music (it would be about 35 mins more if I am being pedantic) but personally I would prefer that on another CD and keep the "album" as intended. Remember it will also be bought as a download so those unknowing youngsters may think all those b-sides were part of the "album". Maybe I am just old school but I would want to protect the integrity of the "album" Prince created biggrin The other thing people need to recognise is that, as Billy Sparks said, "this is a bidness mother fucker" [sic] and WB don't want to blow all their exploitable assets in one go. They can milk the Vault for years to come and can even milk PR further with the ultimate super duper deluxe edition with the 2 track demo version of the solo bass track intended for When Doves Cry included (I am joking but you see the point...record companies are still exploiting the Beatles recordings years later by releasing ever more obscure versions of known songs etc).

about 18 million of us already have the original 9 track album and most are after the unheard vault stuff. youngsters just want to listen to good songs.they have given us 1 cd of new material in reality on this release

Reply #266 posted 04/20/17 5:12am

jaypotton

master said:

 



jaypotton said:


master said:

 


it would not been wrong to fill the rest of disc 1 with musics? you would not want 50 minutes more on your disc. . of course you would.


you could always stop you disc after 9 tracks or just program in 9 tracks.if want to listen to just album.


An absolute waste and again listening to fans is a bad idea if this is the way they think . .We want more music not less. . It lets them get away with giving less stuff out saying just want 30 minutes music on disc.



Oh for sure I would want more music (it would be about 35 mins more if I am being pedantic) but personally I would prefer that on another CD and keep the "album" as intended. Remember it will also be bought as a download so those unknowing youngsters may think all those b-sides were part of the "album". Maybe I am just old school but I would want to protect the integrity of the "album" Prince created biggrin The other thing people need to recognise is that, as Billy Sparks said, "this is a bidness mother fucker" [sic] and WB don't want to blow all their exploitable assets in one go. They can milk the Vault for years to come and can even milk PR further with the ultimate super duper deluxe edition with the 2 track demo version of the solo bass track intended for When Doves Cry included (I am joking but you see the point...record companies are still exploiting the Beatles recordings years later by releasing ever more obscure versions of known songs etc).

about 18 million of us already have the original  9 track album and most are after the unheard vault stuff. youngsters just want to listen to good songs.they have  given us 1 cd  of new material in reality on this release



I think for the most part we are violently agreeing lol

As my first post said, this is disappointing and WB have been misleading (though as I also said, they will have ways to spin this).

I was really excited to be getting "two albums of unreleased material" as I like others read this as "two CDs of unreleased material". If this track list is correct (and it appears to be) then that is not what we are getting.

So disappointment aside the question is, will we all be buying this? Bet you will!!!! I certainly will!

Oh and again being pedantic, millions of people do indeed own PR already and therefore have these songs but ZERO people own them in remastered quality...just saying biggrin
[Edited 4/20/17 5:18am]
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #267 posted 04/20/17 5:28am

PURPLEIZED3121

SuperFurryAnimal said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

ha we live in hope. Estate & those advising really do seem clueless. The sooner they get fans input the better. I fear the same frustrations we have with our beloved Prince will continue for years to come...by that time I'll be deaf & rockin in a wheel chair in an OAP's home!

haaahaaahaahaaaaaa MOOOOO!!!!! Look into the Crytal Ball. Purple Rain Deluxe edition volume 3 in 2027. $$$ Cow. MoooBart!

can someone please supply subtitles?...i don't speak gibberish! razz

Reply #268 posted 04/20/17 5:32am

bluegangsta

hw3004 said:

i think the edits are historically important and should be on the set...just don't think I'll be listening to them that often..

They are on the compilations. They can waste their historical significance on there.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #269 posted 04/20/17 5:39am

jjam

SoulAlive said:

EnDoRpHn said:

Just saw a post on FB claiming that the OP was served with a copyright takedown notice by WBR.

Why are Warners acting so secretive about this release? rolleyes The info is out there,let the fans enjoy the news! They should have given us a full tracklist weeks ago! I don't like the way they're delaying things and now they're apparenty still trying to keep this info under wraps....wtf

Being involved in the industry, a lot of advance planning goes into these things and I've been insistent for a while that there'd be a press release about this tomorrow. On reflection, I truly believe that Warners want to get this right. They'd see something as this "leaked" reveal as a bit of a spanner in the works, in terms of them trying to maximise press coverage, on the sad anniversary of his passing.

Reply #270 posted 04/20/17 5:43am

OnlyNDaUsa

CD2 is fine with just the extend versions. I am sure that if there was a When Doves Cry or Wednesday in the vault they would have looked for it... but keep in mind that recently Susan Rogers was talking about Wednesday and mentioned that Jill sang it in the movie... but I do not remember that. But I think I know when it was in the movie...but just cut.

So I am still thinking there is more and that is was an older track list... but then again (ok i am rambling) would Prince put Some of those songs on this?

I am also thinking that "Electric Intercorse" is pretty much the one that is circulating. I read that it was edited by T but the time is so close... I hope I am wrong!

but I am very happy and looking forward to this!

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #271 posted 04/20/17 5:45am

TheFman

BartVanHemelen said:

TheFman said:

There are two things with remasters:
1- the overall sound quality (your point above)

2- differences in mixing: my point. For example, remastered Megadeth's Hangar 18 compared to the original one is a completely different beast. Sure the sound is 'better' but the mixing is totally wrong. Just the intro alone, where other instruments get to the foreground much more. THIS is not how it's supposed to sound. Is it was, they would have done it back than. That's my issue with remasters.

.

Using Megadeath as an example is ridiculous. Mustaine fucked so much with those. Those weren't remasters, those were Mustaine rewriting history and "fixing" errors caused by him being blind drunk at the time. Using those as examples is like using that painting of Jesus as restored by that old lady as evidence of how restoration is a bad thing.

.

Instead, look up the Dylan remasters from a couple of years ago.


you didn't like the old-lady-Jesus-job? biggrin

I'm pretty sure I actually have two Dylan remaster CD's, will give it a shot one of the days


edit: i checked, they're originals (luckily - but i'll try to get my hand on a remaster somewhere)

[Edited 4/20/17 6:23am]

Reply #272 posted 04/20/17 5:46am

OnlyNDaUsa

jjam said:

SoulAlive said:

Why are Warners acting so secretive about this release? rolleyes The info is out there,let the fans enjoy the news! They should have given us a full tracklist weeks ago! I don't like the way they're delaying things and now they're apparenty still trying to keep this info under wraps....wtf

Being involved in the industry, a lot of advance planning goes into these things and I've been insistent for a while that there'd be a press release about this tomorrow. On reflection, I truly believe that Warners want to get this right. They'd see something as this "leaked" reveal as a bit of a spanner in the works, in terms of them trying to maximise press coverage, on the sad anniversary of his passing.

when ultimate was about to come out a guy who was working on it was here and he said that they had a mock up of one set of songs and a sequencing that was different than what we got. And that was a few weeks before it was released (before being pulled for a while).

I am thinking they only need about 3 weeks to get it all done and out.

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #273 posted 04/20/17 6:01am

jjam

OnlyNDaUsa said:

jjam said:

Being involved in the industry, a lot of advance planning goes into these things and I've been insistent for a while that there'd be a press release about this tomorrow. On reflection, I truly believe that Warners want to get this right. They'd see something as this "leaked" reveal as a bit of a spanner in the works, in terms of them trying to maximise press coverage, on the sad anniversary of his passing.

when ultimate was about to come out a guy who was working on it was here and he said that they had a mock up of one set of songs and a sequencing that was different than what we got. And that was a few weeks before it was released (before being pulled for a while).

I am thinking they only need about 3 weeks to get it all done and out.

Not in terms of getting a press release out with tracklist and marketing in advance. It makes sense for them to issue a release on the anniversary of his passing.

Ultimate didn't receive much in the way of marketing.

Reply #274 posted 04/20/17 6:06am

mrmaxwell

jjam said:

SoulAlive said:

Why are Warners acting so secretive about this release? rolleyes The info is out there,let the fans enjoy the news! They should have given us a full tracklist weeks ago! I don't like the way they're delaying things and now they're apparenty still trying to keep this info under wraps....wtf

Being involved in the industry, a lot of advance planning goes into these things and I've been insistent for a while that there'd be a press release about this tomorrow. On reflection, I truly believe that Warners want to get this right. They'd see something as this "leaked" reveal as a bit of a spanner in the works, in terms of them trying to maximise press coverage, on the sad anniversary of his passing.


If you're in the industry then you would know how badly WB are stuffing this up...

Where is the official website for this release? Or at least an artist page on WB site?

A single cryptically worded press release then radio silence?

Leaked tracklist details from a PUBLIC website and then cease and desist orders?

How about some communication? Tracklist details? The process behind the entire project?

Explanation on why certain tracks? Social media build up? Connect with the fans?

You know, like all the other artists!

Sometimes I wish I was a Bob Dylan or Springsteen fan. Clocking out official remasters, bootlegs, bootlegs of bootlegs, special editions, box sets, wooden boxsets, plastic boxsets, etc etc.

I guess this is and will always be our lot in life being a Prince fan....utter confuson, chaos, random releases and copyright police.

Reply #275 posted 04/20/17 6:08am

master

jaypotton said:

master said:

about 18 million of us already have the original 9 track album and most are after the unheard vault stuff. youngsters just want to listen to good songs.they have given us 1 cd of new material in reality on this release

I think for the most part we are violently agreeing lol As my first post said, this is disappointing and WB have been misleading (though as I also said, they will have ways to spin this). I was really excited to be getting "two albums of unreleased material" as I like others read this as "two CDs of unreleased material". If this track list is correct (and it appears to be) then that is not what we are getting. So disappointment aside the question is, will we all be buying this? Bet you will!!!! I certainly will! Oh and again being pedantic, millions of people do indeed own PR already and therefore have these songs but ZERO people own them in remastered quality...just saying biggrin [Edited 4/20/17 5:18am]

still getting it of course. Got to give money to those warner brother rascals..By making a good tracklist you can make it enjoyable. i just think the edits are a bit of a waste . it makes it more affordable to fill each disc. i like to hear diferent songs . i do not want 3 versions of same song they can save the 7" edits for another time. you are just going to bore people. Not suprised they did not honor that 2 unreleased albums of music.

I guess i i like the associated songs in the film. For me just want to hear an album full of good difeeernt songs on most part.

They could easily have made a cd set we could all be satisfied with. you can keep the price the same if you fill the first disc rather than just pad it out and if they ditch the 7" edits of same songs and add afew more unrelease tracks no one would cry as not really missing any music.

Reply #276 posted 04/20/17 7:10am

jjam

mrmaxwell said:

jjam said:

Being involved in the industry, a lot of advance planning goes into these things and I've been insistent for a while that there'd be a press release about this tomorrow. On reflection, I truly believe that Warners want to get this right. They'd see something as this "leaked" reveal as a bit of a spanner in the works, in terms of them trying to maximise press coverage, on the sad anniversary of his passing.


If you're in the industry then you would know how badly WB are stuffing this up...

Where is the official website for this release? Or at least an artist page on WB site?

A single cryptically worded press release then radio silence?

Leaked tracklist details from a PUBLIC website and then cease and desist orders?

How about some communication? Tracklist details? The process behind the entire project?

Explanation on why certain tracks? Social media build up? Connect with the fans?

You know, like all the other artists!

Sometimes I wish I was a Bob Dylan or Springsteen fan. Clocking out official remasters, bootlegs, bootlegs of bootlegs, special editions, box sets, wooden boxsets, plastic boxsets, etc etc.

I guess this is and will always be our lot in life being a Prince fan....utter confuson, chaos, random releases and copyright police.

Well, Dylan and Springsteen are alive for a start, so can be involved in such releases.

Let's see what's announced tomorrow before going in on WB.

Reply #277 posted 04/20/17 7:12am

MLava

I suppose disc 3 is the length of two LPs, there's your two albums of unreleased material. razz

Reply #278 posted 04/20/17 7:12am

TheEnglishGent

OnlyNDaUsa said:

CD2 is fine with just the extend versions. I am sure that if there was a When Doves Cry or Wednesday in the vault they would have looked for it... but keep in mind that recently Susan Rogers was talking about Wednesday and mentioned that Jill sang it in the movie... but I do not remember that. But I think I know when it was in the movie...but just cut.

So I am still thinking there is more and that is was an older track list... but then again (ok i am rambling) would Prince put Some of those songs on this?

I am also thinking that "Electric Intercorse" is pretty much the one that is circulating. I read that it was edited by T but the time is so close... I hope I am wrong!

but I am very happy and looking forward to this!

The one circulating is a live version, this is supposed to be a previously unknown studio version.

RIP sad
Reply #279 posted 04/20/17 7:21am

bluegangsta

MLava said:

I suppose disc 3 is the length of two LPs, there's your two albums of unreleased material. razz

Oh, good the apologists are out now.

Keep that up now, then get back to me after a few years of MJ/ 2Pac-estate-like shennanigans.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #280 posted 04/20/17 7:28am

purplethunder3121

Why wouldn't they release the Dance Electric with Prince on vocals instead of Andre Cymone? Oh, well... I already have both.

Free your mind...and your ass will follow.
Reply #281 posted 04/20/17 7:37am

MLava

bluegangsta said:

MLava said:

I suppose disc 3 is the length of two LPs, there's your two albums of unreleased material. razz

Oh, good the apologists are out now.

Keep that up now, then get back to me after a few years of MJ/ 2Pac-estate-like shennanigans.

I was being sarcastic, hence the tongue smiley. It probably isn't far off from record exec thinking though. If it were to come out on vinyl it'd be two LPs.

Shame about the second disc, I was fearing we'd see a disc of horrible contemporary remixes so it could have been much worse I suppose.

Reply #282 posted 04/20/17 7:43am

BartVanHemelen

mrmaxwell said:


If you're in the industry then you would know how badly WB are stuffing this up...

Where is the official website for this release? Or at least an artist page on WB site?

A single cryptically worded press release then radio silence?

.

Do you expect them to post some insignificant fact each week? These things are planned.

.

Leaked tracklist details from a PUBLIC website and then cease and desist orders?

.

So? This happens for all kinds of shit.

.

How about some communication? Tracklist details? The process behind the entire project?

Explanation on why certain tracks? Social media build up? Connect with the fans?

.

WTF? Are you serious?

.

Sometimes I wish I was a Bob Dylan or Springsteen fan. Clocking out official remasters, bootlegs, bootlegs of bootlegs, special editions, box sets, wooden boxsets, plastic boxsets, etc etc.

.

You're talking about artists who are collaborating with their record companies instead of sabotaging them.

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This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
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Reply #283 posted 04/20/17 7:44am

bluegangsta

MLava said:

bluegangsta said:

Oh, good the apologists are out now.

Keep that up now, then get back to me after a few years of MJ/ 2Pac-estate-like shennanigans.

I was being sarcastic, hence the tongue smiley. It probably isn't far off from record exec thinking though. If it were to come out on vinyl it'd be two LPs.

Shame about the second disc, I was fearing we'd see a disc of horrible contemporary remixes so it could have been much worse I suppose.

Fair enough then biggrin

Honestly, it's been hard to tell. Over the last few hours, so many people have been clutching at straws to defend this realease, I don't have anything to drink my smoothie with.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #284 posted 04/20/17 7:44am

OnlyNDaUsa

TheEnglishGent said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

CD2 is fine with just the extend versions. I am sure that if there was a When Doves Cry or Wednesday in the vault they would have looked for it... but keep in mind that recently Susan Rogers was talking about Wednesday and mentioned that Jill sang it in the movie... but I do not remember that. But I think I know when it was in the movie...but just cut.

So I am still thinking there is more and that is was an older track list... but then again (ok i am rambling) would Prince put Some of those songs on this?

I am also thinking that "Electric Intercorse" is pretty much the one that is circulating. I read that it was edited by T but the time is so close... I hope I am wrong!

but I am very happy and looking forward to this!

The one circulating is a live version, this is supposed to be a previously unknown studio version.

the one I am talking about is an edit of a rehearsal and NOT from the First Ave show. Princevault says Prince did do some work on the one from the concert but frankly the rehearsal is better.

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #285 posted 04/20/17 7:46am

OnlyNDaUsa

purplethunder3121 said:

Why wouldn't they release the Dance Electric with Prince on vocals instead of Andre Cymone? Oh, well... I already have both.

I am pretty sure it is Prince's version, they do not have the rights to release Andre's was on CBS/Columbia.


remember variety got their information from Militant. and added their own commentary or maybe it was his? But it was meant to indicate that Andre had released the song. But it would be Prince's version as for one WB can doesn't own it and two the one listed is longer than Andre's.

[Edited 4/20/17 7:56am]

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #286 posted 04/20/17 7:52am

Sifi

OnlyNDaUsa said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Why wouldn't they release the Dance Electric with Prince on vocals instead of Andre Cymone? Oh, well... I already have both.

I am pretty sure it is Prince's version, they do not have the rights to release Andre's was on CBS/Columbia.

100% sure it's Prince's version.

Reply #287 posted 04/20/17 7:53am

Sifi

OnlyNDaUsa said:


I am also thinking that "Electric Intercorse" is pretty much the one that is circulating. I read that it was edited by T but the time is so close... I hope I am wrong!

but I am very happy and looking forward to this!

Electric Intercourse is not a circulating version (live or rehearsal), but the fully arranged and finished studio track.

Reply #288 posted 04/20/17 7:56am

love2thenines2003

Sifi said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:


I am also thinking that "Electric Intercorse" is pretty much the one that is circulating. I read that it was edited by T but the time is so close... I hope I am wrong!

but I am very happy and looking forward to this!

Electric Intercourse is not a circulating version (live or rehearsal), but the fully arranged and finished studio track.

@Sifi

Do u know how much Deluxe configuration are due 4 release ?

2 CD

3 CD + 1 DVD

3CD + 2 DVD

More ?

thanx in advance

Reply #289 posted 04/20/17 7:57am

OnlyNDaUsa

Sifi said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:


I am also thinking that "Electric Intercorse" is pretty much the one that is circulating. I read that it was edited by T but the time is so close... I hope I am wrong!

but I am very happy and looking forward to this!

Electric Intercourse is not a circulating version (live or rehearsal), but the fully arranged and finished studio track.

that is good! I noticed the time of both as listed was within 3 seconds so I was worried. I am happy to be wrong!

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #290 posted 04/20/17 7:58am

OnlyNDaUsa

love2thenines2003 said:

Sifi said:

Electric Intercourse is not a circulating version (live or rehearsal), but the fully arranged and finished studio track.

@Sifi

Do u know how much Deluxe configuration are due 4 release ?

2 CD

3 CD + 1 DVD

3CD + 2 DVD

More ?

thanx in advance

I am thinking $50 I hope they do not get Prince Cute and charge $77..

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #291 posted 04/20/17 8:04am

oliviacamron

I am so exited but I keep thinking about Prince's tweets stating that the new people at WB didn't want to pay him properly for this. Now they don't have to pay him at all. I don't want to buy this from WB but I really want it sad
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
Reply #292 posted 04/20/17 8:11am

TheEnglishGent

oliviacamron said:

I am so exited but I keep thinking about Prince's tweets stating that the new people at WB didn't want to pay him properly for this. Now they don't have to pay him at all. I don't want to buy this from WB but I really want it sad


They have to pay the estate though. We may find a lot of stuff coming out from WB through the years and if we don't buy it, that amount of stuff will become less and less. Prince is never going to be paid for anything ever again, the only way we're going to hear stuff is if someone leaks it or someone gets paid from an official release.

RIP sad
Reply #293 posted 04/20/17 8:28am

djThunderfunk

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Crump said:

Paisley employees have said PR reissue was on his desk when he died.

I just have a hard time believing Erotic City, Wonderful Ass, and We Can Fuck were on his track list. Now, Theocratic City, Wonderful Butt, and We Can Duck (7 Minutes Mo' Quack), I might believe. Sorry, I'll see myself out. lurking


You're right, of course they weren't.

If Susan Rogers is correct, then at least disc 3 has been assembled and mastered after he passed.

He probably had his remastered album (disc 1) on his desk.


We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
Reply #294 posted 04/20/17 8:31am

woogiebear

Militant said:

Last night, I got a tip from an industry insider that Warner Bros had registered all the tracks for Purple Rain Deluxe. As a songwriter myself with registered works, I have access to these databases - after following the lead wediscovered the following registrations - all recently registered by Warners marked with a 2017 release date and with full ISRC codes (These codes are used to identify released works across platforms).

So, without further ado here it is! Exclusive information about the forthcoming long-awaited Prince release, PURPLE RAIN DELUXE, to be released in June! Please feel free share this information across the whole Purple Family - all I ask is that you follow my facebook page (The Violet Reality) and repost the included image.
Please note - this is not necessarily the final order of tracks - and it's also possible (though unlikely) that there are other tracks not registered yet. Also worth noting - we've yet to hear anything about the accompanying live video DVDs.

ZX4MvuNl.jpg

There's SLIGHTLY LONGER versions of "The Beautiful Ones" & "Darling Nikki" that would look good on this Anniversary Edition, as well as "When Doves Cry" WITH the Bass!!!!

cool

Reply #295 posted 04/20/17 8:48am

TheEnglishGent

djThunderfunk said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Crump said: I just have a hard time believing Erotic City, Wonderful Ass, and We Can Fuck were on his track list. Now, Theocratic City, Wonderful Butt, and We Can Duck (7 Minutes Mo' Quack), I might believe. Sorry, I'll see myself out. lurking


You're right, of course they weren't.

If Susan Rogers is correct, then at least disc 3 has been assembled and mastered after he passed.

He probably had his remastered album (disc 1) on his desk.


When Prince spoke about it, didn't he say that it was just the same album with nothing extra. It seems quite clear that the rest has been put together and wasn't something he approved, which was probably what stalled the release before with Warner wanting extra stuff and Prince sticking to it being just the main album.

I'm happy we're getting this other stuff in the collection, lookign forward to it.

RIP sad
Reply #296 posted 04/20/17 8:54am

djThunderfunk

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

But that's the cost of being a bootleg collector/uber fan. You want to hear stuff that you're not supposed to hear.


yeahthat When you make the choice to obsessively collect every bootleg your chances of being surprised by official releases of "previously unreleased" material go WAY down.

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
Reply #297 posted 04/20/17 8:58am

TheEnglishGent

djThunderfunk said:

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

But that's the cost of being a bootleg collector/uber fan. You want to hear stuff that you're not supposed to hear.


yeahthat When you make the choice to obsessively collect every bootleg your chances of being surprised by official releases of "previously unreleased" material go WAY down.

Yep and if they aren't on there, then we get the chorus of why weren't they on there. It's a no win situation for whoever releases anything.

RIP sad
Reply #298 posted 04/20/17 9:27am

OnlyNDaUsa

woogiebear said:

Militant said:

Last night, I got a tip from an industry insider that Warner Bros had registered all the tracks for Purple Rain Deluxe. As a songwriter myself with registered works, I have access to these databases - after following the lead wediscovered the following registrations - all recently registered by Warners marked with a 2017 release date and with full ISRC codes (These codes are used to identify released works across platforms).

So, without further ado here it is! Exclusive information about the forthcoming long-awaited Prince release, PURPLE RAIN DELUXE, to be released in June! Please feel free share this information across the whole Purple Family - all I ask is that you follow my facebook page (The Violet Reality) and repost the included image.
Please note - this is not necessarily the final order of tracks - and it's also possible (though unlikely) that there are other tracks not registered yet. Also worth noting - we've yet to hear anything about the accompanying live video DVDs.

There's SLIGHTLY LONGER versions of "The Beautiful Ones" & "Darling Nikki" that would look good on this Anniversary Edition, as well as "When Doves Cry" WITH the Bass!!!!

cool

"the Beautiful Ones" has more lyrics in the part he is talking and it is very nice! "Darling Nikki" IIRC is mostly just some more instrumental jam (But both could be put into the album with ease as could "computer blue" for that matter--but some are purest and would not like that either)

As to Doves... I am not sure the mix with bass even exists...but if it does it is really something that should be released and the estate should make every effort to find it.

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #299 posted 04/20/17 9:49am

djThunderfunk

All I know is that this beats the hell out of that set that was being sold on Amazon a few years ago, that the sellers claimed was legal and official but obviously was not:

http://prince.org/msg/7/401901


Hope the DVDs are great and the packaging is truly "deluxe", but either way, they're getting my $$.

cool


[Edited 4/20/17 9:51am]

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
Reply #300 posted 04/20/17 9:51am

MLava

According to this link the Syracuse DVD is included.

http://blog.thecurrent.org/2017/04/purple-rain-deluxe-edition-tracklist-revealed-including-never-before-heard-recordings/

Reply #301 posted 04/20/17 9:56am

eyewishuheaven

Man, I'm so glad that Bernie's involved.

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #302 posted 04/20/17 9:57am

jjam

OnlyNDaUsa said:

woogiebear said:

There's SLIGHTLY LONGER versions of "The Beautiful Ones" & "Darling Nikki" that would look good on this Anniversary Edition, as well as "When Doves Cry" WITH the Bass!!!!

cool

"the Beautiful Ones" has more lyrics in the part he is talking and it is very nice! "Darling Nikki" IIRC is mostly just some more instrumental jam (But both could be put into the album with ease as could "computer blue" for that matter--but some are purest and would not like that either)

As to Doves... I am not sure the mix with bass even exists...but if it does it is really something that should be released and the estate should make every effort to find it.

It'll be disappointing. The lack of bass in the track makes it.

Reply #303 posted 04/20/17 10:22am

kathieyes

Militant said:

Last night, I got a tip from an industry insider that Warner Bros had registered all the tracks for Purple Rain Deluxe. As a songwriter myself with registered works, I have access to these databases - after following the lead wediscovered the following registrations - all recently registered by Warners marked with a 2017 release date and with full ISRC codes (These codes are used to identify released works across platforms).

So, without further ado here it is! Exclusive information about the forthcoming long-awaited Prince release, PURPLE RAIN DELUXE, to be released in June! Please feel free share this information across the whole Purple Family - all I ask is that you follow my facebook page (The Violet Reality) and repost the included image.
Please note - this is not necessarily the final order of tracks - and it's also possible (though unlikely) that there are other tracks not registered yet. Also worth noting - we've yet to hear anything about the accompanying live video DVDs.

ZX4MvuNl.jpg

WoW!

What would my GREAT Uncle Fred say?
Reply #304 posted 04/20/17 10:28am

oliviacamron

djThunderfunk said:

All I know is that this beats the hell out of that set that was being sold on Amazon a few years ago, that the sellers claimed was legal and official but obviously was not:

http://prince.org/msg/7/401901



Hope the DVDs are great and the packaging is truly "deluxe", but either way, they're getting my $$.

cool


[Edited 4/20/17 9:51am]


Either way they're getting my money too and I hope they f*cking choke on it.
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
Reply #305 posted 04/20/17 10:36am

getxxxx

MLava said:

According to this link the Syracuse DVD is included.

http://blog.thecurrent.org/2017/04/purple-rain-deluxe-edition-tracklist-revealed-including-never-before-heard-recordings/

thats the same info the OG Poster posted .... the dvd wasnt mentioned and has not been confirmed as of yet.

Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman
Reply #306 posted 04/20/17 10:45am

Sifi

getxxxx said:

MLava said:

According to this link the Syracuse DVD is included.

http://blog.thecurrent.org/2017/04/purple-rain-deluxe-edition-tracklist-revealed-including-never-before-heard-recordings/

thats the same info the OG Poster posted .... the dvd wasnt mentioned and has not been confirmed as of yet.

I can confirm the Syracuse DVD incl. remastered audio will be included as well.

Reply #307 posted 04/20/17 10:50am

master

Sifi said:

 



getxxxx said:


 



MLava said:


According to this link the Syracuse DVD is included.


 


http://blog.thecurrent.org/2017/04/purple-rain-deluxe-edition-tracklist-revealed-including-never-before-heard-recordings/



thats the same info the OG Poster posted .... the dvd wasnt mentioned and has not been confirmed as of yet.



 


I can confirm the Syracuse DVD incl. remastered audio will be included as well.


If you are in with them tell them they are doing a shit job. I would prefer a different show. Syracuse we have all seen.Who care about HD. It is average show. Tell them to pick a better a show and includung 7 "edits is just milking the release. Why do you want to bore the fans with same song over and over. They have let the fans down badly. We have waited years to get given what we already got.
[Edited 4/20/17 10:51am]
[Edited 4/20/17 10:54am]
Reply #308 posted 04/20/17 10:51am

eyewishuheaven

Sifi said:

getxxxx said:

thats the same info the OG Poster posted .... the dvd wasnt mentioned and has not been confirmed as of yet.

I can confirm the Syracuse DVD incl. remastered audio will be included as well.


Thanks for checking in again Sifi. Any word on the 2nd concert?

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #309 posted 04/20/17 10:55am

rusty1

I hope that 1984 B-day show is the second
concert:)..,
So legendary
BOB4theFUNK
Reply #310 posted 04/20/17 11:06am

TheEnglishGent

master said:

Sifi said:

I can confirm the Syracuse DVD incl. remastered audio will be included as well.

If you are in with them tell them they are doing a shit job. I would prefer a different show. Syracuse we have all seen.Who care about HD. It is average show. Tell them to pick a better a show and includung 7 "edits is just milking the release. Why do you want to bore the fans with same song over and over. They have let the fans down badly. We have waited years to get given what we already got. [Edited 4/20/17 10:51am] [Edited 4/20/17 10:54am]



In your opinion of course.

The fans are going to buy this for disc 3 regardless of anything else. The rematered album is obvious and honestly, I'm not even too bothered about that. The collection of singles makes sense as an historical part of the package, even if I'm not personally intersted in that disc too much.The thing to remember is that this isn't just for the hard core, this is for everyone.

The only disapointment for me so far is the lack of the 2nd unreleased album, which they promised in the press release. But we're grumbling about stuff which hasn't even been officially announced yet, let's wait and see what is revelead tomorrow.

RIP sad
Reply #311 posted 04/20/17 11:08am

TheEnglishGent

rusty1 said:

I hope that 1984 B-day show is the second concert:).., So legendary

And so already been listened to in amazing sound board quality so many times. I really want to see stuff being released which I've never heard before.

But like I said in my post above, this collection isn't about pleasing the hard core and it would be good for the masses to hear that show.

RIP sad
Reply #312 posted 04/20/17 11:09am

Ingela

edit versions of the b-side? who in the fuck wants that?

Reply #313 posted 04/20/17 11:14am

sms130

I like the tracklisting for the most part. I'll be buying it. I wish that they didn't put all of the single edited versions on this release. You would think that they would save some of those for another posthumous compilation in the future. It is what it is. Now, what i would have put on the Purple Rain Deluxe Edition? I would have went with for the tracklisting. This was what I predicted to appear on the Purple Rain Deluxe Edition:

Disc 1: The entire album remastered with some rarities.

Let's Go Crazy

Take Me With U

The Beautiful Ones

Computer Blue

Darling Nikki

When Dove Cry

I Would Die 4 U

Baby I'm A Star

Purple Rain

Erotic City [12' mix/b-side to Let's Go Crazy]

Another Lonely Christmas [12' mix/b-side to I Would Die 4 U]

17 Days (b-side to When Doves Cry)

God [Vocal] (b-side to Purple Rain)

Disc 2: unreleased, alternate, and more rarities

Let's Go Crazy [12'/special dance mix]

Take Me With U [full version)

Electric Intercourse [studio/overdub mix]

God [Love Theme From Purple Rain] (b-side to Purple Rain, UK)

Possessed [1984 Instrumental or vocal, if that exist]

The Beautiful Ones [full version]

Father's Song

Computer Blue [full version]

Darling Nikki [full version along with the backward message]

Disc 3: unreleased and alternate

17 Days [rumored full version]

G-Spot

When Dove Cry [early version with bassline included or June 7, 1984 live recording]

I Would Die 4 U [full version]

Baby I'm A Star [full version]

Purple Rain [full version]

Possessed [1983 version]

Wednesday

Traffic Jam

The 2 DVDs:

Prince and The Revolution Live - Live in Syracuse 1985 concert

First Avenue 8/3/1983 concert

[Edited 4/20/17 11:50am]

Reply #314 posted 04/20/17 11:26am

Romeoblu

Disc 3 really does excite me, I was hoping for Our Destiny Road house Garden and The Dance Electric but thought they would fall outside the albums time parameters, so a little shocked but very pleased to see them included.


Tracks missing I was hoping for.

G spot
Feline
Screams of passion
Traffic Jam
My Love belongs 2 u


Plus I really thought there would be a handful of previously unknown tracks.
Reply #315 posted 04/20/17 11:28am

Loefie

Seen the mixed reactions and I understand all of them. I am happy about it, although disc 2 doesn't give me the chills. But overall I'm glad there is some news. Now hoping for some good news regarding the dvd's.

Produced, Arranged, Composed & Performed by PRINCE


"Rotterdam, we come to jam!"
Reply #316 posted 04/20/17 11:33am

master

TheEnglishGent said:

 



rusty1 said:


I hope that 1984 B-day show is the second concert:).., So legendary

And so already been listened to in amazing sound board quality so many times. I really want to see stuff being released which I've never heard before.

But like I said in my post above, this collection isn't about pleasing the hard core and it would be good for the masses to hear that show. 


Our only chance of getting a different show was the Syracuse main show .Other is more or less nailed on to be first avenue benefit show where songs originated . Anyway Syracuse is not such a good show so I would have lost it better show in worse quality as seen that in descent quality. I think a lot of hardcore fans are going to be bored as just disc 3 will interest them. Putting out a statement saying 2 discs of unreleased music is an out and out lie which is disgusting from organisations you should trust. They should quit deceiving people . When you give a statement you tell the truth. So yes they have done a terrible job and not just my opinion the majority can see it.Not going to suck up to guy giving info .Warner's should be ashamed
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Reply #317 posted 04/20/17 11:38am

TheEnglishGent

master said:

TheEnglishGent said:

And so already been listened to in amazing sound board quality so many times. I really want to see stuff being released which I've never heard before.

But like I said in my post above, this collection isn't about pleasing the hard core and it would be good for the masses to hear that show.

Our only chance of getting a different show was the Syracuse main show .Other is more or less nailed on to be first avenue benefit show where songs originated .More or less a certainty. Anyway Syracuse is not such a good show so I would have lost syeacuse for better show in worse quality as seen that in descent quality. I think a lot have hardcore are going to be bored as just disc 3 will interest them. Putting out a statement saying 2 discs of unreleased music is an out and out lie which is disgusting from organisations you should trust. I did not believe them anyway due to track record but they should quit deceiving people . When you give a statement you tell the truth. So yes they have done a terrible job and not just my opinion the majority can see it.Not going to suck up to guy giving info .Warner's should be ashamed [Edited 4/20/17 11:36am]

If things stay as they are I agree but we have to remember that nothing has been officially announced yet.

RIP sad
Reply #318 posted 04/20/17 11:45am

sms130

I'm happy that some of these unreleased recordings are seeing the light of day. That 1983 recording of We Can Fuck is the blueprint for We Can Funk (1990). Love & Sex is going to cool to hear. The Dance Electric is dope! I sure hope that they use the 6/7/1984 live recording of Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden. I sure hope that they use the 1983 original recording of Wonderful Ass and not the 1986 version that was worked on with Wendy & Lisa. Father Song is going to be cool to hear. Computer Blue extended version is going to be great to own officially. I hope Velvet Kitty Cat is an early version and not the one that's out there, sound like re-recording or re-worked. Katrina's Paper Dolls is going be cool. I hope Possessed is the 1984 version and not the 1983 version. Regardless, it's still a win to finally see another recording of Possessed is officially released, besides the live version from Syracuse in 1985.

Reply #319 posted 04/20/17 12:12pm

cb70

oliviacamron said:

djThunderfunk said:

All I know is that this beats the hell out of that set that was being sold on Amazon a few years ago, that the sellers claimed was legal and official but obviously was not:

http://prince.org/msg/7/401901


Hope the DVDs are great and the packaging is truly "deluxe", but either way, they're getting my $$.

cool


[Edited 4/20/17 9:51am]

Either way they're getting my money too and I hope they f*cking choke on it.

How christian of you rolleyes

Reply #320 posted 04/20/17 12:26pm

ForceofNature

master said:

Sifi said:

I can confirm the Syracuse DVD incl. remastered audio will be included as well.

If you are in with them tell them they are doing a shit job. I would prefer a different show. Syracuse we have all seen.Who care about HD. It is average show. Tell them to pick a better a show and includung 7 "edits is just milking the release. Why do you want to bore the fans with same song over and over. They have let the fans down badly. We have waited years to get given what we already got. [Edited 4/20/17 10:51am] [Edited 4/20/17 10:54am]

I am really really glad I do not think the way you do lol

[Edited 4/20/17 12:30pm]

Reply #321 posted 04/20/17 12:42pm

ForceofNature

Really this release is a win-win. If you don't like disk 2, just don't listen to it - or just buy Disks 1 and 3 off of iTunes or something. We get a remastered PR from a mastering engineer I fully trust, and we get full studio quality versions of some amazing songs we already know and love which will enhance our listening experience because of the full fidelity. People can complain, however the powers that be did a fantastic job IMO of bridging the hardcore fans and the non-hardcore fans for this release

Reply #322 posted 04/20/17 12:45pm

nelcp777

I wonder how the packaging will be.

Reply #323 posted 04/20/17 1:43pm

JudasLChrist

ForceofNature said:

master said:

Sifi said: If you are in with them tell them they are doing a shit job. I would prefer a different show. Syracuse we have all seen.Who care about HD. It is average show. Tell them to pick a better a show and includung 7 "edits is just milking the release. Why do you want to bore the fans with same song over and over. They have let the fans down badly. We have waited years to get given what we already got. [Edited 4/20/17 10:51am] [Edited 4/20/17 10:54am]

I am really really glad I do not think the way you do lol

[Edited 4/20/17 12:30pm]



That Syracuse show is amazing, and is an important moment for me as a fan in solidifying my life long Prince devotion. Once The Revolution finished Irristible Bitch/Possessed it was OVER for me.

Also, it's got thr best Purple Rain guitar solos. Just Badass.

Reply #324 posted 04/20/17 2:01pm

master

JudasLChrist said:

 



ForceofNature said:


 



master said:


Sifi said: If you are in with them tell them they are doing a shit job. I would prefer a different show. Syracuse we have all seen.Who care about HD. It is average show. Tell them to pick a better a show and includung 7 "edits is just milking the release. Why do you want to bore the fans with same song over and over. They have let the fans down badly. We have waited years to get given what we already got. [Edited 4/20/17 10:51am] [Edited 4/20/17 10:54am]

I am really really glad I do not think the way you do lol


[Edited 4/20/17 12:30pm]





That Syracuse show is amazing, and is an important moment for me as a fan in solidifying my life long Prince devotion. Once The Revolution finished Irristible Bitch/Possessed it was OVER for me.

Also, it's got thr best Purple Rain guitar solos. Just Badass.


Syracuse is run of the mill .Even the new York shows that just surfaced are miles better. That baby I'm a star jam is shit and lasts a lifetime. Anyway be happy listening to what you already got in slightly better quality. You can probably make your own purple rain deluxe in slightly lower quality.(apart from disc 3) If you do not say something is shit they will keep doing this. So far 4ever one extra song Blu-ray of movies we already seen .Boring Lazy easy money releases. Why let them get away with it.
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Reply #325 posted 04/20/17 2:05pm

OnlyNDaUsa

Syracuse is just okay... there have to be other better shows. I have been saying since it was announced Not Syracuse! (and they did say from the vault which would suggest something not yet released)

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #326 posted 04/20/17 2:13pm

eyewishuheaven

nelcp777 said:

I wonder how the packaging will be.


I hope it'll be in a format that can be replicated nicely if the other albums get the same treatment down the line. I wouldn't like my hypothetical 'Prince Deluxe Remaster Series' to be a line of jewel cases with a big Purple Rain cardboard box sticking up in the middle. lol

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #327 posted 04/20/17 3:09pm

Mintchip

I'm excited!!!! Yeah, it could be better, but it could be a lot worse - (paging Will.i.am). There's a shit ton to juggle - the album, b sides, extended cuts, vault songs, club shows, stadium shows - and they seem to have done a pretty good job. If it's not exactly what we were expecting, based on the press release, tough titties. Some of you sound like entitled teenagers, whining that daddy got you a BMW, when he promised a Porsche.

Reply #328 posted 04/20/17 3:12pm

Ingela

When it hits Spotify, I'll add the few tracks are new on my lists. Who's going to "buy" this?

Not enough to matter.

But it's always good to get new tracks. The age of albums has been over for a while now.
Reply #329 posted 04/20/17 3:17pm

IstenSzek

Mintchip said:

I'm excited!!!! Yeah, it could be better, but it could be a lot worse - (paging Will.i.am). There's a shit ton to juggle - the album, b sides, extended cuts, vault songs, club shows, stadium shows - and they seem to have done a pretty good job. If it's not exactly what we were expecting, based on the press release, tough titties. Some of you sound like entitled teenagers, whining that daddy got you a BMW, when he promised a Porsche.



ho now, daddy didn't get me jack shit. daddy got himself a nice new BMW and he's
asking me and all of y'all to pay for it.

that's how it is. now i'm not mad. i'd gladly pay for daddy to drive whatever the fck
he wants.

but daddy should know by now that you don't send out a press release saying he'll
release 2 albums of unreleased material when in the end he only delivers one.

with that reasoning we might buy daddy his BMW but take out the engine and the
seats. then we say 'why the long face, daddy, you wanted a bmw didn't you, bitch?'

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #330 posted 04/20/17 3:18pm

fen

eyewishuheaven said:

nelcp777 said:

I wonder how the packaging will be.


I hope it'll be in a format that can be replicated nicely if the other albums get the same treatment down the line. I wouldn't like my hypothetical 'Prince Deluxe Remaster Series' to be a line of jewel cases with a big Purple Rain cardboard box sticking up in the middle. lol

The Miles boxsets were nicely done.

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Reply #331 posted 04/20/17 3:19pm

IstenSzek

yeahthat the miles davis boxsets were absolutely fantastic!

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #332 posted 04/20/17 3:19pm

rusty1

I want that California show..
I think was in feb of 85..
Prince did "4 the tears in your eyes"
Madonna & Springsteen came onto the stage.
They were all huge stars at the same time:)
BOB4theFUNK
Reply #333 posted 04/20/17 3:44pm

fen

IstenSzek said:

yeahthat the miles davis boxsets were absolutely fantastic!

Yeah, I wish that I had the full set. I’d love to see Prince’s catalogue receive similar treatment.

Regarding this track list, I agree that CD2 is slightly disappointing. I’m all for remasters of extended versions, but the shorter edits strike me as a little pointless. That said, as a deluxe version of one of Prince's most well known albums, the target market is broader than just us die-hards, so we should probably be rooting for it.

CD3 looks wonderful though. “We Can Fuck” probably excites me the most. I’ve always liked the later version, but if this is the one recorded the day after Erotic City it’s bound to be good. Does anyone know much about it beyond what’s stated on the Vault? You know it’s going to be edgy if the young Prince thought that it was “too much”.


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Reply #334 posted 04/20/17 3:55pm

IstenSzek

fen said:

IstenSzek said:

yeahthat the miles davis boxsets were absolutely fantastic!

Yeah, I wish that I had the full set. I’d love to see Prince’s catalogue receive similar treatment.

Regarding this track list, I agree that CD2 is slightly disappointing. I’m all for remasters of extended versions, but the shorter edits strike me as a little pointless. That said, as a deluxe version of one of Prince's most well known albums, the target market is broader than just us die-hards, so we should probably be rooting for it.

CD3 looks wonderful though. “We Can Fuck” probably excites me the most. I’ve always liked the later version, but if this is the one recorded the day after Erotic City it’s bound to be good. Does anyone know much about it beyond what’s stated on the Vault? You know it’s going to be edgy if the young Prince thought that it was “too much”.


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me too. i looked at it multiple times but it was too expensive for me.

if such a thing were released for prince, and as extensive as some of
those miles special editions are, i think i would scrape the money for
it together no matter what though lol

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #335 posted 04/20/17 4:15pm

GTsymbolover

I can't wait for this, so excited!
Reply #336 posted 04/20/17 4:43pm

ElectricDancer

I think this is pretty great. THE DANCE ELECTRIC!

I'm realy saddneed how cynical some people in this thread are.

There are MILLIONS of fans who deserve to hear all kinds of the stuff on disc three that had never been officially released. Those people take precedent over the hundreds of people with boots.

I am only bummed the strings & piano mix of Purple Rain is missing. Is there a boot copy out there that does not sound like it's from a tape under water...?

Reply #337 posted 04/20/17 4:44pm

purplethunder3121

fen said:

eyewishuheaven said:


I hope it'll be in a format that can be replicated nicely if the other albums get the same treatment down the line. I wouldn't like my hypothetical 'Prince Deluxe Remaster Series' to be a line of jewel cases with a big Purple Rain cardboard box sticking up in the middle. lol

The Miles boxsets were nicely done.

1475616706519MILES-DAVIS-Jack-Johnson-slang-inc-3.jpgbox-43-cds-miles-davis-the-genius-of-miles-raridade-D_NQ_NP_109311-MLB20535652828_012016-F.jpg

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Wow, this is great!

Free your mind...and your ass will follow.
Reply #338 posted 04/20/17 4:55pm

ElectricDancer

fen said:

The Miles boxsets were nicely done.

Indeed. Which came out TWENTY YEARS after he died.

Reply #339 posted 04/20/17 5:17pm

fen

purplethunder3121 said:

fen said:

The Miles boxsets were nicely done.

box-43-cds-miles-davis-the-genius-of-miles-raridade-D_NQ_NP_109311-MLB20535652828_012016-F.jpg

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Wow, this is great!

Yes, I have 3 of these sets and they're almost little works of art in their own right. Nice form factor and very sturdy (my oldest set, The Complete In A Silent Way Sessions, came out in 2001 and is still in great condition).

complete_silent_way_boxset.jpg


A few cheaper versions were released in a different form factor (same contents):

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I suspect WB will take a more mass-market approach, but I'd be happy with whatever makes multiple deluxe versions viable. heart

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Reply #340 posted 04/20/17 5:18pm

fen

ElectricDancer said:

fen said:

The Miles boxsets were nicely done.

Indeed. Which came out TWENTY YEARS after he died.

True. smile

Reply #341 posted 04/20/17 5:34pm

bluegangsta

Just a thought.

I think the fact that it specifies Electric Intercourse (Studio Version); is a good indication that one of the DVDs will contain the First Avenue concert.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #342 posted 04/20/17 5:35pm

mrmaxwell

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Syracuse is just okay... there have to be other better shows. I have been saying since it was announced Not Syracuse! (and they did say from the vault which would suggest something not yet released)


People need to realise that only Syracuse was pro shot on video. If any of the other shows were shot they definately weren't done with multiple cameras or done as a complete package ready to release. I've said it many times but it is a real shame no PR shows were shot on film, they could have been remastered in high defintion and would have looked incredible.

I do hope the other live show on DVD will be the famous MPLS dance benefit show from Aug 3, 1983 where Purple Rain was recorded for the album...


Reply #343 posted 04/20/17 5:41pm

purplethunder3121

mrmaxwell said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Syracuse is just okay... there have to be other better shows. I have been saying since it was announced Not Syracuse! (and they did say from the vault which would suggest something not yet released)


People need to realise that only Syracuse was pro shot on video. If any of the other shows were shot they definately weren't done with multiple cameras or done as a complete package ready to release. I've said it many times but it is a real shame no PR shows were shot on film, they could have been remastered in high defintion and would have looked incredible.

I do hope the other live show on DVD will be the famous MPLS dance benefit show from Aug 3, 1983 where Purple Rain was recorded for the album...


I think syracuse is the one I have...

Free your mind...and your ass will follow.
Reply #344 posted 04/20/17 5:41pm

IstenSzek

bluegangsta said:

Just a thought.

I think the fact that it specifies Electric Intercourse (Studio Version); is a good indication that one of the DVDs will contain the First Avenue concert.


please let this be true, because that would be wonderful imo love

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #345 posted 04/20/17 5:42pm

fen

ElectricDancer said:

I think this is pretty great. THE DANCE ELECTRIC!

I'm realy saddneed how cynical some people in this thread are.

There are MILLIONS of fans who deserve to hear all kinds of the stuff on disc three that had never been officially released. Those people take precedent over the hundreds of people with boots.

I am only bummed the strings & piano mix of Purple Rain is missing. Is there a boot copy out there that does not sound like it's from a tape under water...?

Yes, I agree with this. It goes without saying that I want to hear new music, but I'm also happy that circulating tracks will receive greater exposure (in perfect quality).

How much of CD3 is circulating though? I haven't heard:

Love & Sex

Katrina's Paper Dolls

the early version of We Can Fuck

or the studio version of Electric Intercourse.

It sounds as though even the previously leaked tracks may be different versions.

Reply #346 posted 04/20/17 5:46pm

gandorb

ElectricDancer said:

fen said:

The Miles boxsets were nicely done.

Indeed. Which came out TWENTY YEARS after he died.

At that rate it will come out when I am in an old folks hme. Hopefully, I rremember my name. better yet, all I will know is My Name is Prince.

Reply #347 posted 04/20/17 5:47pm

bluegangsta

mrmaxwell said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Syracuse is just okay... there have to be other better shows. I have been saying since it was announced Not Syracuse! (and they did say from the vault which would suggest something not yet released)


People need to realise that only Syracuse was pro shot on video. If any of the other shows were shot they definately weren't done with multiple cameras or done as a complete package ready to release. I've said it many times but it is a real shame no PR shows were shot on film, they could have been remastered in high defintion and would have looked incredible.

I do hope the other live show on DVD will be the famous MPLS dance benefit show from Aug 3, 1983 where Purple Rain was recorded for the album...

The Capitol show definitly was -see the video for IWD4U/ BIAS.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #348 posted 04/20/17 6:05pm

mrmaxwell

bluegangsta said:

mrmaxwell said:


People need to realise that only Syracuse was pro shot on video. If any of the other shows were shot they definately weren't done with multiple cameras or done as a complete package ready to release. I've said it many times but it is a real shame no PR shows were shot on film, they could have been remastered in high defintion and would have looked incredible.

I do hope the other live show on DVD will be the famous MPLS dance benefit show from Aug 3, 1983 where Purple Rain was recorded for the album...

The Capitol show definitly was -see the video for IWD4U/ BIAS.

Do you mean shot on film or pro shot? Do we know the entire show was filmed?

Reply #349 posted 04/20/17 6:40pm

KingSausage

To be honest, I'll fucking buy anything at this point.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #350 posted 04/20/17 6:57pm

sulls

KingSausage said:

To be honest, I'll fucking buy anything at this point.


yeahthat
"I like to watch."
Reply #351 posted 04/20/17 7:03pm

bluegangsta

KingSausage said:

To be honest, I'll fucking buy anything at this point.

That's a real shame. I think we fans have to maintain standards, otherwise we'll keep getting sub-par products.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #352 posted 04/20/17 7:27pm

LRCdancer88

KingSausage said:

To be honest, I'll fucking buy anything at this point.

yeahthat lol

Admission is easy, just say you believe and come to this place in your heart... <3
Reply #353 posted 04/20/17 7:40pm

SchlomoThaHomo

bluegangsta said:

 



KingSausage said:


To be honest, I'll fucking buy anything at this point.

That's a real shame. I think we fans have to maintain standards, otherwise we'll keep getting sub-par products.



But you know it's better than what Prince would have given, at least until he was able to put out his independent deluxe Purple Rain. They should have just been upfront from the jump about it only being 1 disc of unreleased music. Disc 3 is absolutely going to KILL.
"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
Reply #354 posted 04/20/17 7:56pm

BanishedBrian

Overall, I'm happy with this release.

Any chance that the PR remaster is the fully re-recorded version from the late 90s? I've always wanted something that I could play back-to-back with 1999 The New Master. wink

No Candy 4 Me
Reply #355 posted 04/20/17 8:30pm

purplethunder3121

BanishedBrian said:

Overall, I'm happy with this release.

Any chance that the PR remaster is the fully re-recorded version from the late 90s? I've always wanted something that I could play back-to-back with 1999 The New Master. wink

razz

Free your mind...and your ass will follow.
Reply #356 posted 04/20/17 8:34pm

bluegangsta

SchlomoThaHomo said:

bluegangsta said:

That's a real shame. I think we fans have to maintain standards, otherwise we'll keep getting sub-par products.

But you know it's better than what Prince would have given, at least until he was able to put out his independent deluxe Purple Rain. They should have just been upfront from the jump about it only being 1 disc of unreleased music. Disc 3 is absolutely going to KILL.

And that is acknowledged. But, I don't hold people to Prince's standards.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #357 posted 04/20/17 8:36pm

UncleJam

This will be on Apple Music for "rent"...right?

Make it so, Number One...
Reply #358 posted 04/20/17 8:36pm

KingSausage

bluegangsta said:

 



KingSausage said:


To be honest, I'll fucking buy anything at this point.

That's a real shame. I think we fans have to maintain standards, otherwise we'll keep getting sub-par products.




With Prince, my standards went down the shitter decades ago.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #359 posted 04/20/17 8:52pm

Adorecream

It will be great. Velvet Kitty Kat, We Can Fuck and Electric Intercourse! Sign me up. I hope this is real and not some Bootleg that is dropping.

.

But do we have to buy Purple Rain - AGAIN!!!!! Can't they have a package where they just sell the extras by themselves.

.

And I agree with some of the others, where are the protege songs and Modernaire?

Prince - Love4oneanother
Reply #360 posted 04/20/17 9:42pm

SoulAlive

I'm ready to pre-order this thing.I hope it appears on Amazon soon.
Reply #361 posted 04/20/17 9:57pm

rap

Were these tracks chosen by Prince, before he died??

Reply #362 posted 04/20/17 10:06pm

bluegangsta

rap said:

Were these tracks chosen by Prince, before he died??

Yes, 56 year old Johova Witness Prince chose We Can Fuck and Wonderful Ass.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #363 posted 04/20/17 10:16pm

Adorecream

Has anyone heard Velvet Kitty Kat, because that shit sounds sexified and fucked up. Along with Katrina's paper dolls, what the fuxk name is that for a jam. With those weird names, you know the shit is going to be good.

Prince - Love4oneanother
Reply #364 posted 04/20/17 10:18pm

Adorecream

bluegangsta said:

rap said:

Were these tracks chosen by Prince, before he died??

Yes, 56 year old Johova Witness Prince chose We Can Fuck and Wonderful Ass.

Probably find them all changed to We can Furread the Gospel and Wonderful Adam and Eve lol

Prince - Love4oneanother
Reply #365 posted 04/20/17 10:20pm

FunkiestOne

Adorecream said:

Has anyone heard Velvet Kitty Kat, because that shit sounds sexified and fucked up. Along with Katrina's paper dolls, what the fuxk name is that for a jam. With those weird names, you know the shit is going to be good.

.

Yes Velvet Kitty Kat was on Youtube for quite awhile and many of us have heard it. It is nothing sensational, but I liked it. It just has a nice groove to it.

Reply #366 posted 04/20/17 10:42pm

bluegangsta

Adorecream said:

Has anyone heard Velvet Kitty Kat, because that shit sounds sexified and fucked up. Along with Katrina's paper dolls, what the fuxk name is that for a jam. With those weird names, you know the shit is going to be good.

Velvet Kitty Cat sounds like a Vanity 6 outtake (think along the lines of Bite The Beat), although it was actually intended for The Time, supposedly.

Katrina's Paper Dolls has been briefely described further back in the thread. There's a YouTube video with that title, but it's actually an instrumental called Paisley Park/ Joy.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #367 posted 04/20/17 10:55pm

jaawwnn

I'm kinda surprised Velvet Kitty Kat is on there, I mean it's very much just a demo judging by the boot that came out last year. Not that i'm complaining, bring it on!

I wonder was Wednesday left off because Prince doesn't sing it? I suppose versions of tracks like Mia Bocca, G-Spot and Vibrator come from that time period as well but aren't sung by Prince.

Reply #368 posted 04/20/17 10:59pm

JudasLChrist

jaawwnn said:

I'm kinda surprised Velvet Kitty Kat is on there, I mean it's very much just a demo judging by the boot that came out last year. Not that i'm complaining, bring it on!

I wonder was Wednesday left off because Prince doesn't sing it? I suppose versions of tracks like Mia Bocca, G-Spot and Vibrator come from that time period as well but aren't sung by Prince.


I don't think Wednesday exists. People have been talking about it forever, but no-one's heard it. There are no versions or rehearsals of it. I think it's a myth.

Reply #369 posted 04/20/17 11:03pm

jaawwnn

JudasLChrist said:

jaawwnn said:

I'm kinda surprised Velvet Kitty Kat is on there, I mean it's very much just a demo judging by the boot that came out last year. Not that i'm complaining, bring it on!

I wonder was Wednesday left off because Prince doesn't sing it? I suppose versions of tracks like Mia Bocca, G-Spot and Vibrator come from that time period as well but aren't sung by Prince.


I don't think Wednesday exists. People have been talking about it forever, but no-one's heard it. There are no versions or rehearsals of it. I think it's a myth.

In a recent interview Susan Rogers said it exists and even confirmed Jill sings it...

Looking through some old threads there's also something called I am Five mentioned by a few reputable orgers...

Also the demo we have of Baby I'm a Star isn't on there, which is a bit of a pity but it might be way beyond the timespan of this release.

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Reply #370 posted 04/20/17 11:04pm

JudasLChrist

jaawwnn said:

JudasLChrist said:


I don't think Wednesday exists. People have been talking about it forever, but no-one's heard it. There are no versions or rehearsals of it. I think it's a myth.

Susan Rogers said it exists and even confirmed Jill sings it in a recent interview.

Looking through some old threads there's also something called I am Five mentioned by a few reputable orgers...

Also the demo we have of Baby I'm a Star isn't on there, which is a bit of a pity but it might be way beyond the timespan of this release.


Oh really!? I would love to read that. Can you point me to it?

Reply #371 posted 04/20/17 11:07pm

jaawwnn

JudasLChrist said:

jaawwnn said:

Susan Rogers said it exists and even confirmed Jill sings it in a recent interview.

Looking through some old threads there's also something called I am Five mentioned by a few reputable orgers...

Also the demo we have of Baby I'm a Star isn't on there, which is a bit of a pity but it might be way beyond the timespan of this release.


Oh really!? I would love to read that. Can you point me to it?

I'm fairly sure it was on the Prince podcast although can't be 100%, she's done a fair few recently!

http://podcastjuice.net/the-prince-podcast-susan-rogers-interview/

Reply #372 posted 04/20/17 11:14pm

rap

bluegangsta said:

rap said:

Were these tracks chosen by Prince, before he died??

Yes, 56 year old Johova Witness Prince chose We Can Fuck and Wonderful Ass.

Don't be a cunt, your whole life.

Reply #373 posted 04/20/17 11:20pm

bluegangsta

rap said:

bluegangsta said:

Yes, 56 year old Johova Witness Prince chose We Can Fuck and Wonderful Ass.

Don't be a cunt, your whole life.

He didn't choose those either.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #374 posted 04/20/17 11:42pm

SoulAlive

yeah,"Wednesday" really exists.In an early script of Purple Rain,Jill Jones sits at a piano (see pic below) and begins singing it.As you know,her character has a crush on The Kid and the song is supposed to be about her feelings for him....."If you don't call by Wednesday",part of the chorus goes.

Image result for jill jones in purple rain singing wednesday

jaawwnn said:

JudasLChrist said:


I don't think Wednesday exists. People have been talking about it forever, but no-one's heard it. There are no versions or rehearsals of it. I think it's a myth.

In a recent interview Susan Rogers said it exists and even confirmed Jill sings it...

Reply #375 posted 04/20/17 11:54pm

jaypotton

SoulAlive said:

yeah,"Wednesday" really exists.In an early script of Purple Rain,Jill Jones sits at a piano (see pic below) and begins singing it.As you know,her character has a crush on The Kid and the song is supposed to be about her feelings for him....."If you don't call by Wednesday",part of the chorus goes.


 


 


Image result for jill jones in purple rain singing wednesday


 


 


 



jaawwnn said:


 



JudasLChrist said:


 



I don't think Wednesday exists. People have been talking about it forever, but no-one's heard it. There are no versions or rehearsals of it. I think it's a myth.



In a recent interview Susan Rogers said it exists and even confirmed Jill sings it...




Would be nice if Warner Brothers Films (separate company different owners) decided in the near future to also issue a special edition of Purple Rain film including out takes such as Jill performing Wednesday (assuming it was actually filmed and cut out).
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #376 posted 04/20/17 11:57pm

jaypotton

Adorecream said:

And I agree with some of the others, where are the protege songs and Modernaire?



Nah WBR will save that for the Ultimate Super Deluxe 35th Anniversary edition LOL

They are gonna want to milk this as far as is possible and get folks to rebuy what they already own as often as they can.

I am willing to bet anyone on the Org that THIS is not the last/only Purple Rain remaster/deluxe release.

Edit: due to bloody annoying autocorrect!
[Edited 4/20/17 23:59pm]
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #377 posted 04/21/17 12:06am

jaypotton

bluegangsta said:

 



KingSausage said:


To be honest, I'll fucking buy anything at this point.

That's a real shame. I think we fans have to maintain standards, otherwise we'll keep getting sub-par products.



Already been clear that I think Warners saying "two albums of unreleased material" and not delivering (regardless of how they spin it) was a dick move.

However, if they had only said "one album of unreleased material" then this set would be pretty much on the money (although without s shadow of a doubt folks on here would be complaining track X isn't on there).

I get it that folks don't want single edits (I don't) but there is the counter argument that CD2 represents a definitive collection of official releases which some collectors will want.

The track list is NOT sub par, it just hasn't delivered on the promise and expectations the Warners press release raised.

Now IF the sound quality is crap and this is not a proper remaster and those vault tracks sound like Moonbeam Levels and it has cheap packaging...THEN this will be a sub par product!
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #378 posted 04/21/17 12:35am

BillyO

Wonder if WB will give a major surprise and unveil Disc 1 as a new configuration of the album with extended versions and other featured artists in the tracklist.

I do hope they rethink Disc 2...I personally have no interest in edits. It's these edits that renders 4ever almost unlistenable.

Disc 3 is a beautiful thing, I can't wait to play that loud.

As for the DVDs...I'd much prefer the audio on CD, the DVDs could be sold separately as a Visual boxset to accompany this Audio set. I know I'd listen to the shows a lot more than sitting down and watching them.
Reply #379 posted 04/21/17 12:53am

NewpowerScarfo

jaypotton said:

SoulAlive said:

yeah,"Wednesday" really exists.In an early script of Purple Rain,Jill Jones sits at a piano (see pic below) and begins singing it.As you know,her character has a crush on The Kid and the song is supposed to be about her feelings for him....."If you don't call by Wednesday",part of the chorus goes.

tumblr_lpedkoqkM51qcvaxho1_400.jpg

Would be nice if Warner Brothers Films (separate company different owners) decided in the near future to also issue a special edition of Purple Rain film including out takes such as Jill performing Wednesday (assuming it was actually filmed and cut out).

Better than that, I want the completely unedited Rated X version of Purple Rain that has the incest, anal sex, and barnyard scenes that was cut from the theatrical version for it won't receive an X rating. I know it's never gonna happen, but an guy can dream. lol

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Reply #380 posted 04/21/17 1:17am

jaypotton

NewpowerScarfo said:

 



jaypotton said:


SoulAlive said:

yeah,"Wednesday" really exists.In an early script of Purple Rain,Jill Jones sits at a piano (see pic below) and begins singing it.As you know,her character has a crush on The Kid and the song is supposed to be about her feelings for him....."If you don't call by Wednesday",part of the chorus goes.


 


 


tumblr_lpedkoqkM51qcvaxho1_400.jpg


 


 


 



Would be nice if Warner Brothers Films (separate company different owners) decided in the near future to also issue a special edition of Purple Rain film including out takes such as Jill performing Wednesday (assuming it was actually filmed and cut out).

Better than that, I want the completely unedited Rated X version of Purple Rain that has the incest, anal sex, and barnyard scenes that was cut from the theatrical version for it won't receive an X rating. I know it's never gonna happen, but an guy can dream. lol

[Edited 4/21/17 1:15am]



Sometimes thoughts are better left unsaid
lol
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #381 posted 04/21/17 1:24am

jaypotton

BillyO said:

Wonder if WB will give a major surprise and unveil Disc 1 as a new configuration of the album with extended versions and other featured artists in the tracklist.


I hope not! I want the "album" treated as such. It is perfect in its 45min state. Save all the extended versions for CD2 just as they have. Leave the album as a self contained piece as originally intended!

As for the DVDs...I'd much prefer the audio on CD, the DVDs could be sold separately as a Visual boxset to accompany this Audio set. I know I'd listen to the shows a lot more than sitting down and watching them.


Different folks and strokes and all but for me the live concerts are as much a visual as an aural experience. Never been a fan of live albums/CDs. I want to relive the shows I attended (or as close as possible). I want to see Prince pull his guitar face, being flirty and cheeky, abusing that poor microphone stand etc
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'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #382 posted 04/21/17 1:50am

Sifi

bluegangsta said:

Adorecream said:

Has anyone heard Velvet Kitty Kat, because that shit sounds sexified and fucked up. Along with Katrina's paper dolls, what the fuxk name is that for a jam. With those weird names, you know the shit is going to be good.

Velvet Kitty Cat sounds like a Vanity 6 outtake (think along the lines of Bite The Beat), although it was actually intended for The Time, supposedly.

Katrina's Paper Dolls has been briefely described further back in the thread. There's a YouTube video with that title, but it's actually an instrumental called Paisley Park/ Joy.

Rest assured, the version of KPD is different to the one you describe!

Reply #383 posted 04/21/17 2:11am

thedance

bluegangsta said:

KingSausage said:

To be honest, I'll fucking buy anything at this point. I will buy this for sure, me too nod

That's a real shame. I think we fans have to maintain standards, otherwise we'll keep getting sub-par products.

??

a Purple Rain remaster
, how is that subpar product.. eek cool cool

also: Disc 3 is looking great, as well as the 2 dvd concerts.

I am excited, (even though most of us may have had some higher expectations)

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Prince 4Ever. heart
Reply #384 posted 04/21/17 2:15am

thedance

Prince 4Ever. heart
Reply #385 posted 04/21/17 2:18am

thedance

^ credits: from: Violet Reality.. cool cool cool cool



Disc 3: excited excited

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Prince 4Ever. heart
Reply #386 posted 04/21/17 2:38am

master

jaypotton said:

Adorecream said:

And I agree with some of the others, where are the protege songs and Modernaire?

Nah WBR will save that for the Ultimate Super Deluxe 35th Anniversary edition LOL They are gonna want to milk this as far as is possible and get folks to rebuy what they already own as often as they can. I am willing to bet anyone on the Org that THIS is not the last/only Purple Rain remaster/deluxe release. Edit: due to bloody annoying autocorrect! [Edited 4/20/17 23:59pm]

that is understatement. they milked the hits up to 93 for all its worth. where the fuck are the demoes beautiful ones , baby i'm a star , purpler rain extra verse, wednesday. Also they may as well have associated artist songs featured in film. and there will be more we do not know about. Yet we get nearly a whole disc of 7" edits of songs. and according to warners them 7" edits are an album of new material.

In the statement they said 2 albums of new material and 2 dvds from the vault

They say getting stuff from the vault. 3 out of your 5 discs are already availabe in more than good quality. i do not care abot camera angles i would have chosen a different show. They must have filmed more than one show. It does not have to be perfect. It is just boring getting stuff already got

Susan rogers is a joke .If this all they can give us.

pretty much a joke release i can review this release now for you. with my exceitement level rated out of 10.

1st disc an whole 30 minutes of purple already got this slightly better quality ao give it 1/10

2nd disc 7" edits . same songs only shorter. bollocks 0/10

3rd disc a good disc no alot of the songs but they say alot different version 8/10

4th disc syracuse average show seen it already 0/10

5th disc benefit show 83 good show should be on this release as important show excitement is 5/10 but the show is excellent so no complaints. this will be in better quality than what i have.

Got everyone hyped up with bullshit press release is totally out of order. They should tell the truth . so far they have release 3 things and all they have given is extra1 track and 1 album worthwile. if they can not handle a release that should be as enjoyable for everyone they need to give control to someone else.

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Reply #387 posted 04/21/17 2:49am

TheEnglishGent

Sifi said:

bluegangsta said:

Velvet Kitty Cat sounds like a Vanity 6 outtake (think along the lines of Bite The Beat), although it was actually intended for The Time, supposedly.

Katrina's Paper Dolls has been briefely described further back in the thread. There's a YouTube video with that title, but it's actually an instrumental called Paisley Park/ Joy.

Rest assured, the version of KPD is different to the one you describe!

Hi Sifi, really appreciating your comments on these, thanks for the input. You seem close to the project, or at least know people who are. Is there any comment from anyone regarding the original press release claiming two albums of unreleased material and what appears to now be only 1 album of unreleased material?

RIP sad
Reply #388 posted 04/21/17 3:05am

TheEnglishGent

thedance said:

^ credits: from: Violet Reality.. cool cool cool cool



Disc 3: excited excited

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Yep, I'm excited too, really looking forward to this 3rd disc.

The only thing I am hoping with this disc is that the Roadhouse Garden is different to the one which leaked last year. That was great quality but the track didn't feel finished to me and I'm hoping this has more to it. Really looking forward to this either way though.

RIP sad
Reply #389 posted 04/21/17 3:10am

dodger

bluegangsta said:

rap said:

Don't be a cunt, your whole life.

He didn't choose those either.

lol

Amongst pages of bullshit this is gold standard

Reply #390 posted 04/21/17 3:15am

master

TheEnglishGent said:

Sifi said:

Rest assured, the version of KPD is different to the one you describe!

Hi Sifi, really appreciating your comments on these, thanks for the input. You seem close to the project, or at least know people who are. Is there any comment from anyone regarding the original press release claiming two albums of unreleased material and what appears to now be only 1 album of unreleased material?

no need to be nice to him. sifi should get back to warners and tell them they are cunts for releasing bullshit statements and giving us 3 discs of stuff we already got and tell them where they can stick there 7"

Reply #391 posted 04/21/17 3:24am

TheEnglishGent

master said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Hi Sifi, really appreciating your comments on these, thanks for the input. You seem close to the project, or at least know people who are. Is there any comment from anyone regarding the original press release claiming two albums of unreleased material and what appears to now be only 1 album of unreleased material?

no need to be nice to him. sifi should get back to warners and tell them they are cunts for releasing bullshit statements and giving us 3 discs of stuff we already got and tell them where they can stick there 7"


There's every need to be nice, as I generally am to everyone, either in real life or when I could be nasty whilst hiding behind the anonymity of the internet.

I haven't got a remastered Purple Rain and there's quite a bit on disc 3 which I haven't got and some of the tracks I do have appear to be a different version here anyway. But even if I had the entirity of disc 3 in remastered CD quality, that's hardly anyone's fault but mine for having illegal boots in the first place.

The only complaint we can have with this set is the lack of a second disc of unreleased stuff which was announced previously. But as I said previously, this still hasn't even been officially announced yet and while I'm not expecting anything else, let's just wait and see before getting carried away wink.

RIP sad
Reply #392 posted 04/21/17 3:38am

master

TheEnglishGent said:

master said:

no need to be nice to him. sifi should get back to warners and tell them they are cunts for releasing bullshit statements and giving us 3 discs of stuff we already got and tell them where they can stick there 7"


There's every need to be nice, as I generally am to everyone, either in real life or when I could be nasty whilst hiding behind the anonymity of the internet.

I haven't got a remastered Purple Rain and there's quite a bit on disc 3 which I haven't got and some of the tracks I do have appear to be a different version here anyway. But even if I had the entirity of disc 3 in remastered CD quality, that's hardly anyone's fault but mine for having illegal boots in the first place.

The only complaint we can have with this set is the lack of a second disc of unreleased stuff which was announced previously. But as I said previously, this still hasn't even been officially announced yet and while I'm not expecting anything else, let's just wait and see before getting carried away wink.

i would say this to there face. Anyone who gives so many false statements as warners should be out of business. If someone continaully lies to you would you be nice to them . We have been treated apallingly with this release and 4ever and the bluray movies set. just money grabbers. .We have had this release delayed and delayed . Then they give us is the same shit we already have. . I am normally nice to people.

They are taking the piss. If they can change this release and make it better they should do it. but all the info given so far is worrying

Reply #393 posted 04/21/17 3:38am

master

TheEnglishGent said:

master said:

no need to be nice to him. sifi should get back to warners and tell them they are cunts for releasing bullshit statements and giving us 3 discs of stuff we already got and tell them where they can stick there 7"


There's every need to be nice, as I generally am to everyone, either in real life or when I could be nasty whilst hiding behind the anonymity of the internet.

I haven't got a remastered Purple Rain and there's quite a bit on disc 3 which I haven't got and some of the tracks I do have appear to be a different version here anyway. But even if I had the entirity of disc 3 in remastered CD quality, that's hardly anyone's fault but mine for having illegal boots in the first place.

The only complaint we can have with this set is the lack of a second disc of unreleased stuff which was announced previously. But as I said previously, this still hasn't even been officially announced yet and while I'm not expecting anything else, let's just wait and see before getting carried away wink.

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Reply #394 posted 04/21/17 3:44am

fabriziovenerandi

TheEnglishGent said:

There's every need to be nice, as I generally am to everyone, either in real life or when I could be nasty whilst hiding behind the anonymity of the internet.

I haven't got a remastered Purple Rain and there's quite a bit on disc 3 which I haven't got and some of the tracks I do have appear to be a different version here anyway. But even if I had the entirity of disc 3 in remastered CD quality, that's hardly anyone's fault but mine for having illegal boots in the first place.

The only complaint we can have with this set is the lack of a second disc of unreleased stuff which was announced previously.

+1

Reply #395 posted 04/21/17 3:46am

love2thenines2003

@SIFI

The PRESS RELEASE 4 THE DELUXE PACKAGES with all the details is 4 2day or not??

Thanx1More

cool

Reply #396 posted 04/21/17 4:07am

SomeSoldier

master said:

 



TheEnglishGent said:


 



master said:


 


no need to be nice to him. sifi should get back to warners and tell them they are cunts for releasing bullshit statements and giving us 3 discs of stuff we already got  and tell them where they can stick there 7" 




There's every need to be nice, as I generally am to everyone, either in real life or when I could be nasty whilst hiding behind the anonymity of the internet. 


I haven't got a remastered Purple Rain and there's quite a bit on disc 3 which I haven't got and some of the tracks I do have appear to be a different version here anyway. But even if I had the entirity of disc 3 in remastered CD quality, that's hardly anyone's fault but mine for having illegal boots in the first place. 

The only complaint we can have with this set is the lack of a second disc of unreleased stuff which was announced previously. But as I said previously, this still hasn't even been officially announced yet and while I'm not expecting anything else, let's just wait and see before getting carried away wink.



i would say this to there face. Anyone who gives so many false statements as warners should be out of business. If someone continaully lies to you would you be nice to them . We have been treated apallingly with this release and 4ever and  the bluray movies set. just money grabbers. .We have had this release  delayed and delayed . Then they give us is the same shit we already have. . I am normally nice to people. 


They are taking the piss. If they can change this release and make it better they should do it. but all the info given so far is worrying


There's a difference between being honest and rude. And certainly you may have issues with warners, but not with Sifi. So there is every need to be nice.
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Reply #397 posted 04/21/17 4:19am

jjam

Sifi's giving us proper information about this release, why the hell be rude to him, master?

I get where you're coming from not being happy with the reissue, this could easily be a reissue with 4CDs worth of unreleased tracks and alternate versions - but it's not too bad. No point shooting the messenger.

Reply #398 posted 04/21/17 4:21am

KingSausage

Do we know who did the remastering of the main album?
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #399 posted 04/21/17 4:24am

jaypotton

master said:

 



jaypotton said:


Adorecream said:

And I agree with some of the others, where are the protege songs and Modernaire?



Nah WBR will save that for the Ultimate Super Deluxe 35th Anniversary edition LOL They are gonna want to milk this as far as is possible and get folks to rebuy what they already own as often as they can. I am willing to bet anyone on the Org that THIS is not the last/only Purple Rain remaster/deluxe release. Edit: due to bloody annoying autocorrect! [Edited 4/20/17 23:59pm]

that is understatement. they milked the hits up to 93  for all its worth.  where the fuck are the demoes beautiful ones , baby i'm a star , purpler rain extra verse, wednesday. Also they  may as well have associated artist songs featured in film. and there will be more we do not know about. Yet we get nearly a whole disc of  7" edits of songs. and according to warners them 7" edits are an album of new material.


In the statement they said 2 albums of new material and 2 dvds from the vault


They say getting stuff from the vault. 3 out of your 5 discs are already availabe in more than good quality. i do not care abot camera angles i would have chosen a different show. They must have filmed more than one show. It does not have to be perfect. It is just boring getting stuff already got


Susan rogers is a joke .If this all they can give us. 


 


pretty much a joke release i can review this release now for you. with my exceitement level rated out of 10. 


1st disc  an whole 30 minutes of purple already got this slightly better quality ao give it 1/10


2nd disc  7" edits . same songs only shorter. bollocks 0/10


3rd disc a good disc no alot of the songs but they say alot different version 8/10


4th disc syracuse average show seen it already 0/10


5th disc benefit show 83 good show should be on this release as important show excitement is 5/10 but the  show is excellent  so no complaints. this will be in better quality than what i have.


 


 


Got everyone hyped up with  bullshit press release is totally out of order. They should tell the truth .  so far they have release 3 things and all they have given is extra1 track and 1 album worthwile. if they can not handle a release that should be as enjoyable for everyone they need to give control to someone else.  


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[Edited 4/21/17 2:44am]



You really are coming across all entitled aren't you?

I agree (and have said so now a few times) that Warners have misled us regarding "two albums of previously unreleased material" which was a dick move and it will be interesting to see how they spin it!

But this is not the garbage release you are saying. For many people this is gold dust. Not everyone is like us. Not everyone owns virtually every fart or brain dump Prince ever took (regardless of quality). As for the Syracuse show...well I have that on VHS in the loft but never had it on DVD before (all I hope is that, in addition to improving picture and sound quality, that they get rid of the split screen effect on When Doves Cry. Man that looks 80s and bad).

Again as said before I agree that the single edits are a waste and I do not want them (some collectors might want all official releases in one place I guess) but CD2 having b-sides and 12inch edits is fine and as I expected with this type of release. I would have liked a couple more alternative versions such as the longer Beautiful Ones instead of single edits and maybe (if it still exists) When Doves Cry with the bass line.

But how you can mark them down for CD3 is beyond me? It is a great collection of songs (some totally unexpected). You say "not a lot of songs" but have you seen how long some are? Regardless of the download generation this is being packaged onto CDs which limits it to 80mins.

BTW you keep saying Purple Rain is 30mins? The album is 43mins 48secs (Ie. fairly standard 80s vinyl length)

Also I agree with Englishgent no need to be rude to SiFi!

P.S. So I take it YOU WILL NOT BE BUYING THIS THEN?
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'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #400 posted 04/21/17 4:27am

jjam

KingSausage said:

Do we know who did the remastering of the main album?

Bernie Grundman, who mastered the original too.

Reply #401 posted 04/21/17 4:33am

BartVanHemelen

jaypotton said:

Adorecream said:

And I agree with some of the others, where are the protege songs and Modernaire?

Nah WBR will save that for the Ultimate Super Deluxe 35th Anniversary edition LOL They are gonna want to milk this as far as is possible and get folks to rebuy what they already own as often as they can.

.

The only reason we're getting this is because a) Prince signed a deal with them in 2014 and b) that deal is still valid now, whilst all of the rest is locked in legal dispute. Yet here you are talking about future imaginary slights.

.

In-fucking-credible.

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Reply #402 posted 04/21/17 4:37am

BartVanHemelen

Adorecream said:

.

But do we have to buy Purple Rain - AGAIN!!!!! Can't they have a package where they just sell the extras by themselves.

.

Which part of REMASTERED is so bloody hard to understand?

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Reply #403 posted 04/21/17 4:41am

jaypotton

BartVanHemelen said:

 



jaypotton said:


Adorecream said:

And I agree with some of the others, where are the protege songs and Modernaire?



Nah WBR will save that for the Ultimate Super Deluxe 35th Anniversary edition LOL They are gonna want to milk this as far as is possible and get folks to rebuy what they already own as often as they can.

.


The only reason we're getting this is because a) Prince signed a deal with them in 2014 and b) that deal is still valid now, whilst all of the rest is locked in legal dispute. Yet here you are talking about future imaginary slights.


.


In-fucking-credible.



Bart stop projecting. Clearly anyone with an iota of intelligence knows what you have just said. The point I was making, which is perfectly reasonable, is that in the future there will be more Purple Rain releases. There is precedent for this with all record companies and artists (as you well know). Clearly rights issues and contracts need to be sorted out before ANYTHING can be released - duh!
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #404 posted 04/21/17 4:41am

BartVanHemelen

Ingela said:

When it hits Spotify, I'll add the few tracks are new on my lists. Who's going to "buy" this? Not enough to matter. But it's always good to get new tracks. The age of albums has been over for a while now.

.

There are labels who don't do anything but license content from majors and release deluxe albums. So unless I'm missing something, those guys must be making money.

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Reply #405 posted 04/21/17 4:44am

BartVanHemelen

jaypotton said:

BartVanHemelen said:

.

The only reason we're getting this is because a) Prince signed a deal with them in 2014 and b) that deal is still valid now, whilst all of the rest is locked in legal dispute. Yet here you are talking about future imaginary slights.

.

In-fucking-credible.

Bart stop projecting.

.

Don't use words you don't comprehend.

.


The point I was making, which is perfectly reasonable, is that in the future there will be more Purple Rain releases. There is precedent for this with all record companies and artists (as you well know). Clearly rights issues and contracts need to be sorted out before ANYTHING can be released - duh!

.

Then get upset about those WHEN THEY ARRIVE. You're dismissing this set based on those things THAT MIGHT NOT HAPPEN.

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Reply #406 posted 04/21/17 4:50am

Sifi

jjam said:

Sifi's giving us proper information about this release, why the hell be rude to him, master?

I get where you're coming from not being happy with the reissue, this could easily be a reissue with 4CDs worth of unreleased tracks and alternate versions - but it's not too bad. No point shooting the messenger.

I don't take any of it personal.

I understand the level of emotions running high, but it will not get to me. No worries.

Reply #407 posted 04/21/17 4:51am

jaypotton

BartVanHemelen said:

 



jaypotton said:


BartVanHemelen said:

 


.


The only reason we're getting this is because a) Prince signed a deal with them in 2014 and b) that deal is still valid now, whilst all of the rest is locked in legal dispute. Yet here you are talking about future imaginary slights.


.


In-fucking-credible.




Bart stop projecting.

.


Don't use words you don't comprehend.


.




The point I was making, which is perfectly reasonable, is that in the future there will be more Purple Rain releases. There is precedent for this with all record companies and artists (as you well know). Clearly rights issues and contracts need to be sorted out before ANYTHING can be released - duh!

.


Then get upset about those WHEN THEY ARRIVE. You're dismissing this set based on those things THAT MIGHT NOT HAPPEN.



The thing with you Bart is that you don't actually read all the posts (or choose to ignore the ebb and flow of the conversation). You take an isolated comment and then project onto that what you want to believe someone is saying without clarifying or checking what they are saying because you like to make a point and score points!

You assume I consider further release of Purple Rain a slight. I don't! It is just going to be an inevitable fact based on commerce and the desire by both the estate and Warners to exploit their assets. Ever since reissues/remasters/deluxe editions etc started happening many artists and record companies have done this. Why won't it happen with Prince's material?

The context for me making that comment of future releases was based on other people complaining that song X is not on this release. I was simply pointing out (based on established business practice) that they could well surface on future versions of Purple Rain.

So what exactly is your beef?
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #408 posted 04/21/17 4:56am

jjam

Sifi said:

jjam said:

Sifi's giving us proper information about this release, why the hell be rude to him, master?

I get where you're coming from not being happy with the reissue, this could easily be a reissue with 4CDs worth of unreleased tracks and alternate versions - but it's not too bad. No point shooting the messenger.

I don't take any of it personal.

I understand the level of emotions running high, but it will not get to me. No worries.

Admit it, you're Prince wink

Reply #409 posted 04/21/17 4:57am

NewpowerScarfo

jaypotton said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

Better than that, I want the completely unedited Rated X version of Purple Rain that has the incest, anal sex, and barnyard scenes that was cut from the theatrical version for it won't receive an X rating. I know it's never gonna happen, but an guy can dream. lol

[Edited 4/21/17 1:15am]

Sometimes thoughts are better left unsaid lol

lol, this stuff is pretty tame compared to an average episode of Game of Thrones. (yes, I'm totally adicted to that hbo show).

Reply #410 posted 04/21/17 5:03am

KingSausage

jjam said:

 



KingSausage said:


Do we know who did the remastering of the main album?

Bernie Grundman, who mastered the original too. 




Excellent. Thanks!

I hope it isn't super loud, brickwalled to hell and back, compressed like crazy, etc.

Too bad this doesn't seem to be coming out on vinyl, unless I missed that news.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #411 posted 04/21/17 5:03am

TheThem

Disc 2 is a joke and where the hell is:

Prince's version of Modernaire (Dez said the master for his version is lost)

Wednesday

Prince version of G-Spot

Father's Song

When Doves Cry unstripped with bass and rhythm guitar

The strange Crying version of Father's Song

They could have made disc 2 the actual score by Michel Colombier. Why even include single edits?

Reply #412 posted 04/21/17 5:06am

master

jaypotton said:

master said:

that is understatement. they milked the hits up to 93 for all its worth. where the fuck are the demoes beautiful ones , baby i'm a star , purpler rain extra verse, wednesday. Also they may as well have associated artist songs featured in film. and there will be more we do not know about. Yet we get nearly a whole disc of 7" edits of songs. and according to warners them 7" edits are an album of new material.

In the statement they said 2 albums of new material and 2 dvds from the vault

They say getting stuff from the vault. 3 out of your 5 discs are already availabe in more than good quality. i do not care abot camera angles i would have chosen a different show. They must have filmed more than one show. It does not have to be perfect. It is just boring getting stuff already got

Susan rogers is a joke .If this all they can give us.

pretty much a joke release i can review this release now for you. with my exceitement level rated out of 10.

1st disc an whole 30 minutes of purple already got this slightly better quality ao give it 1/10

2nd disc 7" edits . same songs only shorter. bollocks 0/10

3rd disc a good disc no alot of the songs but they say alot different version 8/10

4th disc syracuse average show seen it already 0/10

5th disc benefit show 83 good show should be on this release as important show excitement is 5/10 but the show is excellent so no complaints. this will be in better quality than what i have.

Got everyone hyped up with bullshit press release is totally out of order. They should tell the truth . so far they have release 3 things and all they have given is extra1 track and 1 album worthwile. if they can not handle a release that should be as enjoyable for everyone they need to give control to someone else.

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You really are coming across all entitled aren't you? I agree (and have said so now a few times) that Warners have misled us regarding "two albums of previously unreleased material" which was a dick move and it will be interesting to see how they spin it! But this is not the garbage release you are saying. For many people this is gold dust. Not everyone is like us. Not everyone owns virtually every fart or brain dump Prince ever took (regardless of quality). As for the Syracuse show...well I have that on VHS in the loft but never had it on DVD before (all I hope is that, in addition to improving picture and sound quality, that they get rid of the split screen effect on When Doves Cry. Man that looks 80s and bad). Again as said before I agree that the single edits are a waste and I do not want them (some collectors might want all official releases in one place I guess) but CD2 having b-sides and 12inch edits is fine and as I expected with this type of release. I would have liked a couple more alternative versions such as the longer Beautiful Ones instead of single edits and maybe (if it still exists) When Doves Cry with the bass line. But how you can mark them down for CD3 is beyond me? It is a great collection of songs (some totally unexpected). You say "not a lot of songs" but have you seen how long some are? Regardless of the download generation this is being packaged onto CDs which limits it to 80mins. BTW you keep saying Purple Rain is 30mins? The album is 43mins 48secs (Ie. fairly standard 80s vinyl length) Also I agree with Englishgent no need to be rude to SiFi! P.S. So I take it YOU WILL NOT BE BUYING THIS THEN? [Edited 4/21/17 4:25am] [Edited 4/21/17 4:28am] [Edited 4/21/17 4:36am]

8/10 is excitement level for disc 3.I generally do not get too excited about slightly better sound quality. I know majority of songs on disc 3, as most have circulated in some form or another. They are excellent songs though but heard some alternate versions already. For the syracuse show , a laserdisc one was remastered for dvd/download and as been in circulation for ages, so you can see it in even better than vhs quality already. Not going to make the show anybetter by remastering it. Still an average show .

If you say you your happy with it they wony change it. if you say you wany 9 tracks on first discs that is what you get. if you want to keep it at affordable price you fill each disc. they can have made it alot better.Most know it. just very disappointed. i have nothing against warners they should really deliver on the statements they put out as that was easily possible. i feel ihave been nice.. if you are disappointed and you do not say anythig nothing will be done. . maybe they should pull the release and work on it a little more. Add some demos beutiful ones baby i'm a star purple rain , asociated artist tracks wednesday plus may be 5 more unreleased tracks it can only help. plus take syracuse off and replace with another show .what we have is disspointing

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Reply #413 posted 04/21/17 5:09am

dandan

Where the hell is G-Spot?

I got two sides... and they're both friends.
Reply #414 posted 04/21/17 5:09am

TheEnglishGent

TheThem said:

Disc 2 is a joke and where the hell is:

Prince's version of Modernaire (Dez said the master for his version is lost)

Wednesday

Prince version of G-Spot

Father's Song

When Doves Cry unstripped with bass and rhythm guitar

The strange Crying version of Father's Song

They could have made disc 2 the actual score by Michel Colombier. Why even include single edits?


Fathers Song is the last track on disc 3.

RIP sad
Reply #415 posted 04/21/17 5:16am

jaypotton

master said:

 



jaypotton said:


master said:

 


that is understatement. they milked the hits up to 93  for all its worth.  where the fuck are the demoes beautiful ones , baby i'm a star , purpler rain extra verse, wednesday. Also they  may as well have associated artist songs featured in film. and there will be more we do not know about. Yet we get nearly a whole disc of  7" edits of songs. and according to warners them 7" edits are an album of new material.


In the statement they said 2 albums of new material and 2 dvds from the vault


They say getting stuff from the vault. 3 out of your 5 discs are already availabe in more than good quality. i do not care abot camera angles i would have chosen a different show. They must have filmed more than one show. It does not have to be perfect. It is just boring getting stuff already got


Susan rogers is a joke .If this all they can give us. 


 


pretty much a joke release i can review this release now for you. with my exceitement level rated out of 10. 


1st disc  an whole 30 minutes of purple already got this slightly better quality ao give it 1/10


2nd disc  7" edits . same songs only shorter. bollocks 0/10


3rd disc a good disc no alot of the songs but they say alot different version 8/10


4th disc syracuse average show seen it already 0/10


5th disc benefit show 83 good show should be on this release as important show excitement is 5/10 but the  show is excellent  so no complaints. this will be in better quality than what i have.


 


 


Got everyone hyped up with  bullshit press release is totally out of order. They should tell the truth .  so far they have release 3 things and all they have given is extra1 track and 1 album worthwile. if they can not handle a release that should be as enjoyable for everyone they need to give control to someone else.  


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[Edited 4/21/17 2:44am]



You really are coming across all entitled aren't you? I agree (and have said so now a few times) that Warners have misled us regarding "two albums of previously unreleased material" which was a dick move and it will be interesting to see how they spin it! But this is not the garbage release you are saying. For many people this is gold dust. Not everyone is like us. Not everyone owns virtually every fart or brain dump Prince ever took (regardless of quality). As for the Syracuse show...well I have that on VHS in the loft but never had it on DVD before (all I hope is that, in addition to improving picture and sound quality, that they get rid of the split screen effect on When Doves Cry. Man that looks 80s and bad). Again as said before I agree that the single edits are a waste and I do not want them (some collectors might want all official releases in one place I guess) but CD2 having b-sides and 12inch edits is fine and as I expected with this type of release. I would have liked a couple more alternative versions such as the longer Beautiful Ones instead of single edits and maybe (if it still exists) When Doves Cry with the bass line. But how you can mark them down for CD3 is beyond me? It is a great collection of songs (some totally unexpected). You say "not a lot of songs" but have you seen how long some are? Regardless of the download generation this is being packaged onto CDs which limits it to 80mins. BTW you keep saying Purple Rain is 30mins? The album is 43mins 48secs (Ie. fairly standard 80s vinyl length) Also I agree with Englishgent no need to be rude to SiFi! P.S. So I take it YOU WILL NOT BE BUYING THIS THEN? [Edited 4/21/17 4:25am] [Edited 4/21/17 4:28am] [Edited 4/21/17 4:36am]

 


8/10 is excitement level  for disc 3.I generally do not get too excited about slightly better sound quality.  I know majority of songs on disc 3, as most have circulated in some form or another. They are excellent  songs though but heard some alternate versions already. For the syracuse show , a laserdisc one was remastered for dvd/download  and as been  in circulation for ages, so you can see it in even better than vhs quality already. Not going to make the show anybetter by remastering it. Still an average show . 


If you say you your happy with it they wony change it.  if you say you wany 9 tracks on first discs that is what you get. if you want to keep it at affordable rice you fill each disc. they can have made it alot better.Most know it. just very disappointed. i have nothing against warners  they should really deliver on the statements they put out as that was easily possible



Well as said before, I agree with the point on Warners being misleading in press release.

But your point on already having songs previously unreleased is a moot point. It is tough shit that you have these. By rights you should not have them. I have most of them too. But these were from bootlegs and we (as hardcore fans) sought the, out regardless of the sound quality.

On the "fill the disc" comment, we are just going to have to agree to disagree cos I have made it clear that I believe in the sanctity of the original concept of the "album" rather than squashing on stuff that shouldn't be there in THAT context!
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #416 posted 04/21/17 5:21am

jjam

I have often wondered why Colombier's full score was never released. One track ("Love Theme") was released on a compilation of his work entitled "Dreams". There are also other unreleased musical elements in the film that had nothing to do with him (such as the other versions of "Purple Rain" Prince plays on his boombox and the music played when he first brings her to his room) which it would have been nice to see being released - maybe they'll be on the 100th anniversary box set.

Reply #417 posted 04/21/17 5:26am

OnlyNDaUsa

to the negative ones: if you do not like this set you are free to give it a pass. I plan to buy it!

My only question is if it comes out on the 9th! I will likely try to pick it up at wal mart at midnight (as well as order it off amazon). If it is the 16th... I am not so sure! I am seeing the revolution on Wednesday as well as working Wednesday and Thursday (I am off both Fridays) so I may be wiped out! But I guess I can take a nap on the 15th and get up to get it at midnight...

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #418 posted 04/21/17 5:54am

KingSausage

dandan said:

Where the hell is G-Spot?




Where oh where could it be?
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
Reply #419 posted 04/21/17 5:57am

OnlyNDaUsa

KingSausage said:

dandan said:

Where the hell is G-Spot?

Where oh where could it be?

FINALY

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #420 posted 04/21/17 6:37am

dsimp8

djThunderfunk said:

 



KlyphIsBackAgain said:


But that's the cost of being a bootleg collector/uber fan. You want to hear stuff that you're not supposed to hear.


yeahthat When you make the choice to obsessively collect every bootleg your chances of being surprised by official releases of "previously unreleased" material go WAY down.


And if we got songs that no one but Prince's ears have heard,there would be some people who would be ticked off that they had never heard it
Reply #421 posted 04/21/17 6:50am

NewpowerScarfo

Sifi said:

jjam said:

Sifi's giving us proper information about this release, why the hell be rude to him, master?

I get where you're coming from not being happy with the reissue, this could easily be a reissue with 4CDs worth of unreleased tracks and alternate versions - but it's not too bad. No point shooting the messenger.

I don't take any of it personal.

I understand the level of emotions running high, but it will not get to me. No worries.

Thank you Sifi for both being informative and an good sport. I have one question for you, any word when the official announcement may be revealed? Again, thank you for your time and understanding. smile

Reply #422 posted 04/21/17 6:58am

Romeoblu

How do we know sifi is legit?
Reply #423 posted 04/21/17 7:07am

dodger

Romeoblu said:

How do we know sifi is legit?

love2thenines2003 vouched for him

Reply #424 posted 04/21/17 7:10am

love2thenines2003

dodger said:

Romeoblu said:

How do we know sifi is legit?

love2thenines2003 vouched for him

Never ...but my guess and nothing more ...Yes he is !

cool

Reply #425 posted 04/21/17 7:10am

TheEnglishGent

dodger said:

Romeoblu said:

How do we know sifi is legit?

love2thenines2003 vouched for him



lol

lol

RIP sad
Reply #426 posted 04/21/17 7:10am

thedance

thedance said:

please let me ask:

the Purple Rain DeLuxe set is going to include 2x Dvd (at least this was rumoured a few months back).

The Benefit concert First Avenue 1983 Dvd

+

the Purple Rain tour Syracuse 1985 Dvd

Is this still true, is it gonna be confirmed...... or was this specualtions only..

Prince 4Ever. heart
Reply #427 posted 04/21/17 7:13am

TheEnglishGent

thedance said:

thedance said:

please let me ask:

the Purple Rain DeLuxe set is going to include 2x Dvd (at least this was rumoured a few months back).

The Benefit concert First Avenue 1983 Dvd

+

the Purple Rain tour Syracuse 1985 Dvd

Is this still true, is it gonna be confirmed...... or was this specualtions only..


Still waiting for official confirmation, the content of the two DVD's has only been speculated although it seems that Syracuse with remastered audio is one of them.

RIP sad
Reply #428 posted 04/21/17 7:24am

purpleprime

master said:

about 18 million of us already have the original 9 track album and most are after the unheard vault stuff. youngsters just want to listen to good songs.they have given us 1 cd of new material in reality on this release

yes but 18 million of us dont have it "remastered".....I'll bet it's gonna sound incredible...all of it!!

Reply #429 posted 04/21/17 7:28am

TheEnglishGent

purpleprime said:

master said:

about 18 million of us already have the original 9 track album and most are after the unheard vault stuff. youngsters just want to listen to good songs.they have given us 1 cd of new material in reality on this release

yes but 18 million of us dont have it "remastered".....I'll bet it's gonna sound incredible...all of it!!

Exactly, anyone who moans about the Purple Rain package containing a remaster of Purple Rain loses all credibilty.

RIP sad
Reply #430 posted 04/21/17 7:30am

master

dsimp8 said:

djThunderfunk said:

 



KlyphIsBackAgain said:


But that's the cost of being a bootleg collector/uber fan. You want to hear stuff that you're not supposed to hear.


yeahthat When you make the choice to obsessively collect every bootleg your chances of being surprised by official releases of "previously unreleased" material go WAY down.


And if we got songs that no one but Prince's ears have heard,there would be some people who would be ticked off that they had never heard it
Reply #431 posted 04/21/17 7:33am

master

dsimp8 said:

djThunderfunk said:

 



KlyphIsBackAgain said:


But that's the cost of being a bootleg collector/uber fan. You want to hear stuff that you're not supposed to hear.


yeahthat When you make the choice to obsessively collect every bootleg your chances of being surprised by official releases of "previously unreleased" material go WAY down.


And if we got songs that no one but Prince's ears have heard,there would be some people who would be ticked off that they had never heard it

Utter nonsense . What % would be unhappy with tracks not heard of before. Unheard tracks I want. .The excitement level would go up. If rumours are true 3 discs out of 4 are already released officially. Weather you know of the boots or not. They are giving you as little extra as possible.
Reply #432 posted 04/21/17 7:34am

Romeoblu

dodger said:

 



Romeoblu said:


How do we know sifi is legit?

love2thenines2003 vouched for him



That's all I needed to hear.
Reply #433 posted 04/21/17 7:44am

master

NewpowerScarfo said:[quote]

 



Sifi said:


 



jjam said:


Sifi's giving us proper information about this release, why the hell be rude to him, master?


 


I get where you're coming from not being happy with the reissue, this could easily be a reissue with 4CDs worth of unreleased tracks and alternate versions - but it's not too bad. No point shooting the messenger. 



 


I don't take any of it personal.


I understand the level of emotions running high, but it will not get to me. No worries.


 




Do not worry about it. Tell them to keep milking these releases and give as little extra as possible. Carry on the good work as you have disappointed the fans so much they will accept any bone you throw them.
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Reply #434 posted 04/21/17 7:47am

jjam

Why not email Warners about your concerns?

Reply #435 posted 04/21/17 7:48am

TheEnglishGent

master said:

dsimp8 said:
And if we got songs that no one but Prince's ears have heard,there would be some people who would be ticked off that they had never heard it
Utter nonsense . What % would be unhappy with tracks not heard of before. Unheard tracks I want. .The excitement level would go up. If rumours are true 3 discs out of 4 are already released officially. Weather you know of the boots or not. They are giving you as little extra as possible.

Can we at least get an official announcement and a price before we start talking about what is or isn't good value and whether or not the 'extras' are worth it.

RIP sad
Reply #436 posted 04/21/17 7:50am

Sifi

Romeoblu said:

How do we know sifi is legit?

All I can say is that I will share info that is confirmed within circles close to this project.

It's OK to be suspicious, I will not force anyone to believe me, nor will I go into back-an-forths about the validity about my posts. I happen to be in a position to share info, which seems useful, based on the comments I have seen so far. Many opinions seem to be based on rumour. I will continue to post info when possible.

Reply #437 posted 04/21/17 7:57am

purpleprime

I for one, am very gratefull to Warners as we seem to get alot more than I was expecting, you can see that they have really tried (harder than I ever thought possible) to please us. I cant wait to hear "Erotic City" remastered...that song in paticular I think is gonna sound incredible remastered...with all the whistles, different vocal's and the general alien sound of it, and Im really excited to hear Disc 3....as unlike most of you, ive never heard any of those songs before.....ano people are moaning that there isnt enough on the final disc....but I for one think we have theres quite alot on there.....75 mins worth?.....i thought they would milk the cow for another collection and just give us 25 mins worth....thank you warners!! worship ...and much more importantly thank you for all the amazing music of the past, and all that you have left for us to discover in the future prince cry

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Reply #438 posted 04/21/17 8:04am

master

jjam said:

Why not email Warners about your concerns? 


They would never listen. There agenda is make as much money as possible for as little material as possible.
Why bother.
Would emailing them about 4ever and Blu-ray box set have done any good.
This is a company who thought they can add 1 extra track and resell an hits package for umpteenth time. And told us to treat 7"edits even on 4ever like unreleased gems.

Warner's have been terrible. 3 releases since princes death and made a pigs ear out of all.
Best for them to holding back details to save themselves a backlash.
Reply #439 posted 04/21/17 8:11am

Romeoblu

Velvet Kitty Cat is the same length as the leaked track from last year so I think it will be the same version. That leak my well have come from this set.
Reply #440 posted 04/21/17 8:11am

love2thenines2003

Sifi said:

Romeoblu said:

How do we know sifi is legit?

All I can say is that I will share info that is confirmed within circles close to this project.

It's OK to be suspicious, I will not force anyone to believe me, nor will I go into back-an-forths about the validity about my posts. I happen to be in a position to share info, which seems useful, based on the comments I have seen so far. Many opinions seem to be based on rumour. I will continue to post info when possible.

The lovely info that i'd like 2 see confirmed is about the second DVD? = August 83 1st Av Concert

Did u catch some info about it??

thanx

cool

Reply #441 posted 04/21/17 8:20am

nelcp777

Sifi said:

Romeoblu said:

How do we know sifi is legit?

All I can say is that I will share info that is confirmed within circles close to this project.

It's OK to be suspicious, I will not force anyone to believe me, nor will I go into back-an-forths about the validity about my posts. I happen to be in a position to share info, which seems useful, based on the comments I have seen so far. Many opinions seem to be based on rumour. I will continue to post info when possible.

Thanks for providing the information. Do you have any knowledge on the packaging?

Reply #442 posted 04/21/17 8:21am

jjam

master said:

jjam said:

Why not email Warners about your concerns?

They would never listen. There agenda is make as much money as possible for as little material as possible. Why bother. Would emailing them about 4ever and Blu-ray box set have done any good. This is a company who thought they can add 1 extra track and resell an hits package for umpteenth time. And told us to treat 7"edits even on 4ever like unreleased gems. Warner's have been terrible. 3 releases since princes death and made a pigs ear out of all. Best for them to holding back details to save themselves a backlash.

But you should email them. It's more productive than ranting on a noticeboard. There have been a few U-turns from labels recently re deluxe reissues that have a disappointing tracklisting, owing to getting complaints, with the resolution being an improved list of tracks. What's there to lose?

Reply #443 posted 04/21/17 8:22am

purpleprime

nelcp777 said:

Sifi said:

All I can say is that I will share info that is confirmed within circles close to this project.

It's OK to be suspicious, I will not force anyone to believe me, nor will I go into back-an-forths about the validity about my posts. I happen to be in a position to share info, which seems useful, based on the comments I have seen so far. Many opinions seem to be based on rumour. I will continue to post info when possible.

Thanks for providing the information. Do you have any knowledge on the packaging?

please dont be a digipack......please pray

Reply #444 posted 04/21/17 8:32am

2freaky4church1

What happened to the live stuff? Was that made up?

The Vault one is a real yawner. There's Other's Here With us--no. Do Yourself A Favor? no. How about something new we never heard. Why not release him jamming in the studio?

"2freaky is a complete stud." DJ
"2freaky is very down." 2Elijah.
"2freaky convinced me to join Antifa: OnlyNDA
Reply #445 posted 04/21/17 8:32am

2freaky4church1

Better they kill it.

"2freaky is a complete stud." DJ
"2freaky is very down." 2Elijah.
"2freaky convinced me to join Antifa: OnlyNDA
Reply #446 posted 04/21/17 8:52am

Loefie

KingSausage said:

dandan said:

Where the hell is G-Spot?

Where oh where could it be?

Let me in on this info too!!

Produced, Arranged, Composed & Performed by PRINCE


"Rotterdam, we come to jam!"
Reply #447 posted 04/21/17 9:02am

jjam

It's a tough one to find, for many people wink

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Reply #448 posted 04/21/17 9:09am

MLava

I'm too lazy to go clicking around and know there are some extremely knowledgeable folk here who have this info memorized...

Are the edits compiled on disc 2 everything that was contemporarily released? I can see why they include it, the whole picture gathered together, documenting the album, blah blah blah, but if it's just bits and pieces and not comprehensive that doesn't make sense then. Those single edits are the versions that were hits after all. Even though I'll never listen to 'em. Also some of those have never been on CD before or are pretty hard to find no?

Reply #449 posted 04/21/17 9:12am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

MLava said:

I'm too lazy to go clicking around and know there are some extremely knowledgeable folk here who have this info memorized...

Are the edits compiled on disc 2 everything that was contemporarily released? I can see why they include it, the whole picture gathered together, documenting the album, blah blah blah, but if it's just bits and pieces and not comprehensive that doesn't make sense then. Those single edits are the versions that were hits after all. Even though I'll never listen to 'em. Also some of those have never been on CD before or are pretty hard to find no?

Yes

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Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
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Reply #450 posted 04/21/17 9:30am

NewpowerScarfo

Sifi said:

Romeoblu said:

How do we know sifi is legit?

All I can say is that I will share info that is confirmed within circles close to this project.

It's OK to be suspicious, I will not force anyone to believe me, nor will I go into back-an-forths about the validity about my posts. I happen to be in a position to share info, which seems useful, based on the comments I have seen so far. Many opinions seem to be based on rumour. I will continue to post info when possible.

*raises hand* you kind of skipped over the question that was just before this post.

Reply #451 posted 04/21/17 9:39am

SomeSoldier

Sifi, any indication about when an official announcement will be made? And thanks for all the information!
Reply #452 posted 04/21/17 9:59am

jaypotton

2freaky4church1 said:

  What happened to the live stuff?  Was that made up?


 


  The Vault one is a real yawner.  There's Other's Here With us--no.  Do Yourself A Favor?  no.  How about something new we never heard.  Why not release him jamming in the studio?  



But the tracks you list were not recorded in the same time period as Purple Rain?
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #453 posted 04/21/17 10:00am

jaypotton

jjam said:

It's a tough one to find, for many people wink

[Edited 4/21/17 9:02am]



Not really
lol
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #454 posted 04/21/17 10:31am

Graycap23

master said:

jjam said:

Why not email Warners about your concerns?

They would never listen. There agenda is make as much money as possible for as little material as possible. Why bother. Would emailing them about 4ever and Blu-ray box set have done any good. This is a company who thought they can add 1 extra track and resell an hits package for umpteenth time. And told us to treat 7"edits even on 4ever like unreleased gems. Warner's have been terrible. 3 releases since princes death and made a pigs ear out of all. Best for them to holding back details to save themselves a backlash.

That sums up the WB attitude and action toward this project and all things Prince these days.

Facts don't give a funk about your opinion.
Reply #455 posted 04/21/17 10:39am

novabrkr

If the track lists are indeed legit it seems that for CD3 they've tried to take into account what people that have been collecting bootlegs for years might want to hear.

Is "Electric Intercourse" really going to be described as a "studio version" on the package? There would be no real reason for it other than to make the fans that are already familiar with the live takes interested in it. There has been no official release of the track in any form so far.

Of course, the track list for CD3 doesn't look that bad as such.

I was just personally hoping that they would compile a really strong "Purple Rain 2" type of a "pseudo album" as one of the extra discs, putting tracks like "Do It All Night" that sound more like the stuff on the original album on it, instead of stuff like "Velvet Kitty Cat". Disc 3 gives me the impression of being a bit uneven stylistically, but I'm sure I'll love the previously unheard material on it anyway.

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Reply #456 posted 04/21/17 10:44am

purpleprime

I wonder if the ending of Darling Nikki.....is gonna be reversed and not play backwards anymore.....seems no point as it's not viynl....

Reply #457 posted 04/21/17 10:55am

positivity88

I may be the only person who's excited to have a 7" edit of "Purple Rain." I've always felt like that song plods along way too long past the mid-way point. But it's not a personal fave. There, I said it.

It totally makes sense to me to make remastered versions of the B-sides part of this package. The soundtrack's singles were what made Prince really famous for his B-sides. The "Baby, I'm a Star" edit may not be necessary for everybody, but it's short.

Disc 3 looks great to me. It wouldn't have made smart business sense to stuff too many great outtakes into one package. I just hope there's no question that these are from the true master tapes (unlike the "Moonbeam Levels" speculation).

It's amazing to me that this is finally coming out at all.

In 7 short years, we'll probably see another configuration for the Deluxe 40th anniversary.

Reply #458 posted 04/21/17 11:18am

djThunderfunk

purpleprime said:

I wonder if the ending of Darling Nikki.....is gonna be reversed and not play backwards anymore.....seems no point as it's not viynl....


That's the way it is on every CD, cassette, digital copy AND LP, so no, it won't be changed.

Pretty sure the point was an artistic decision and not merely an easter egg for those that purchased the vinyl... wink

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
Reply #459 posted 04/21/17 11:21am

purpleprime

positivity88 said:

In 7 short years, we'll probably see another configuration for the Deluxe 40th anniversary.

Hope this sells amazingly well, only so it will warrant other "Deluxe" editions in that time....namley Dirty Mind, 1999, ATWIAD , Parade and ofcourse Sign Of The Time's (have a feeling this ones coming next...hopefully with Dream Factory material)

Reply #460 posted 04/21/17 11:21am

TheThem

TheEnglishGent said:

TheThem said:

Disc 2 is a joke and where the hell is:

Prince's version of Modernaire (Dez said the master for his version is lost)

Wednesday

Prince version of G-Spot

Father's Song

When Doves Cry unstripped with bass and rhythm guitar

The strange Crying version of Father's Song

They could have made disc 2 the actual score by Michel Colombier. Why even include single edits?


Fathers Song is the last track on disc 3.

Okay I made a mistake with Father's song. I also want to say, Lust U always should be here, both the instrumental and vocal versions. if you look at the end of the purple Rain movie, right after baby I'm a star you notice that they play small samples of each song in the order that they are played in the movie. The very first song is a very small sample of the instrumental version of Lust U Always. Maybe that was the first track of the original cut of the movie.

Reply #461 posted 04/21/17 11:27am

purpleprime

TheThem said:

Disc 2 is a joke and where the hell is:

Prince's version of Modernaire (Dez said the master for his version is lost)

Wednesday

Prince version of G-Spot

Father's Song

When Doves Cry unstripped with bass and rhythm guitar

The strange Crying version of Father's Song

They could have made disc 2 the actual score by Michel Colombier. Why even include single edits?

no they couldnt....85% percent of us want "Prince" music......not a whole disc dedicated to michel colombier...

Reply #462 posted 04/21/17 11:54am

TheThem

purpleprime said:

TheThem said:

Disc 2 is a joke and where the hell is:

Prince's version of Modernaire (Dez said the master for his version is lost)

Wednesday

Prince version of G-Spot

Father's Song

When Doves Cry unstripped with bass and rhythm guitar

The strange Crying version of Father's Song

They could have made disc 2 the actual score by Michel Colombier. Why even include single edits?

no they couldnt....85% percent of us want "Prince" music......not a whole disc dedicated to michel colombier...

I understand that.

Reply #463 posted 04/21/17 12:06pm

purpleprime

TheThem said:

purpleprime said:

no they couldnt....85% percent of us want "Prince" music......not a whole disc dedicated to michel colombier...

I understand that.

however that does not mean I wouldnt buy it, I for one would love the score to be released and im sure it will......its just there's far more important work's that will be first in the cue......they should really pass the score and all the other associated artist's all on to "Rhino" or a similar company.....so they can remaster them......and warners should just concentrate on "Prince's" work.....they way we could get them all a lot quicker....

Reply #464 posted 04/21/17 12:50pm

Vannormal

Graycap23 said:

I guess this kills ever hearing When Doves Cry with the bass line added in.

sad

Exactly. Thàt would've been a total surprise...

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Honestly, what a TOTAL let down this is... The edited versions are hopefully also remastered.

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I do hope the packaging is a nice extend, and not a fucked up contemporary one. A nie booklet with the shooting of the cover picture for instance, stories, whatever... I'm afraid im longing too much here. wink

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Why no Demo versions ?

Why no comments by co musicians ?

Why no Fargnoli additions to the choice of the music for the movie for instance ?

Or is that something we might expect for the DVD releases ?

“My body reeks with lust, I will rape you if i must.”
Reply #465 posted 04/21/17 2:05pm

Crump

Still no announcemnet from WB when we all know its finished and they could have cheered people up today. Dicks!

Reply #466 posted 04/21/17 2:56pm

eyewishuheaven

Crump said:

Still no announcemnet from WB when we all know its finished and they could have cheered people up today. Dicks!


Double-edged sword. Half the fandom would have accused them of ghoulishly capitalizing on the anniversary of his passing.

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #467 posted 04/21/17 4:02pm

antonb

well it seems like every other fucker is. Shelby, Morris and the rest either releasing new music on his death or touring. What the hell is that video from Morris, its awful. Prince world has gone mad. None of this would be happening if Prince would have had his way. Now you kind of see Princes point on keeping everything so tightly under control.

Reply #468 posted 04/21/17 4:44pm

thedance

OldFriends4Sale said:

MLava said:

I'm too lazy to go clicking around and know there are some extremely knowledgeable folk here who have this info memorized...

Are the edits compiled on disc 2 everything that was contemporarily released? I can see why they include it, the whole picture gathered together, documenting the album, blah blah blah, but if it's just bits and pieces and not comprehensive that doesn't make sense then. Those single edits are the versions that were hits after all. Even though I'll never listen to 'em. Also some of those have never been on CD before or are pretty hard to find no?

Yes

About these 7 inch Single Edits... once I saw a bootleg compilation containing these Short versions,

and people / P-fans were in search for these 7 inch single edits (it was before the "4Ever" 2Cd).

Believe this, some really want to have it ALL, and I am actually one of these fans.

( recently I did buy the Scandalous promo-CD, just to own the 4 minutes short version of this brilliant Prince song )

--- and of course I know the 6 minutes album version + the 12 inch Scandalous Sex Suite are much better, heart


Still it's so nice to own them ALL, I can enjoy the 4 minutes edit of Scandalous a lot, still.

Ok just imho.. nod woot!

Prince 4Ever. heart
Reply #469 posted 04/21/17 5:01pm

jaawwnn

Releasing 7" edits is par for the course in reissue series in 2017, we'd be moaning if it wasn't there.

You're all working on the assumption that this cd of single mixes is taking the place of something else which we have zero evidence of bar our own personal wishlists.

Reply #470 posted 04/21/17 5:26pm

214

Let's wait, i'm excited as i haven't heard most if not all the third disc.

Reply #471 posted 04/21/17 5:40pm

injuredpinky

Thanks Militant for the tracklist exclusive...nice work!

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Personal track wishlists aside, there's plenty on this release for me to be happy about. Also my inner pessimist is just grateful this hasn't been canceled like soooo many of his other recent reissues.

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I'm purchasing this without a doubt on the first day it's released. And if WB ever releases an even delux-ier version, I'll buy that too.

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I hope this does well. I hope all his WB era albums get (super) deluxe editions.

Reply #472 posted 04/21/17 5:40pm

homesquid

Unless this is priced cynically and absurdly I'm cool with this! I haven't heard 80% of disc 3

Reply #473 posted 04/21/17 6:22pm

OnlyNDaUsa

our Militant is a little famous! I have seen several news stories about this! And I have gotten a few messages telling me about it! I said "yeah I know that guy!"

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #474 posted 04/21/17 8:45pm

thedoorkeeper

homesquid said:

Unless this is priced cynically and absurdly I'm cool with this! I haven't heard 80% of disc 3


I'm like you - I haven't heard the majority of the music on Disc 3. Looking forward to it happening!
Reply #475 posted 04/21/17 10:16pm

NewpowerScarfo

OnlyNDaUsa said:

our Militant is a little famous! I have seen several news stories about this! And I have gotten a few messages telling me about it! I said "yeah I know that guy!"

I admire two things about him: He has perfect hair like Jon Snow, and he's an natural fighter. His facebook post on getting an copyright strike for this leak earned my respect.

Reply #476 posted 04/21/17 10:32pm

jaawwnn

Okay we've waited long enough, time for the official announcement please and thank you
Reply #477 posted 04/21/17 11:44pm

jaypotton

jaawwnn said:

Releasing 7" edits is par for the course in reissue series in 2017, we'd be moaning if it wasn't there.

You're all working on the assumption that this cd of single mixes is taking the place of something else which we have zero evidence of bar our own personal wishlists. 




yeahthat


Although to be fair what MOST people are pissed about is Warners issuing a misleading press release stating "two albums of unreleased material".

As I have said several times now, Warners will spin this because they used the word "album" not "CD" and will point to the fact that CD3 does indeed contain 2 X vinyl albums worth of material. But that was sneaky and a bit of a dick move.

Now if they had said from the beginning "one CD of unreleased material" nobody could complain (though of course this is the ORG so folks would definitely still be complaining)

Personally I too would rather NOT have the single edits and wish they were replaced with the alternative versions of WDC and Beautiful Ones (longer one) but hey ho big sigh!
[Edited 4/21/17 23:48pm]
[Edited 4/21/17 23:49pm]
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #478 posted 04/22/17 12:33am

NewpowerScarfo

jaawwnn said:

Okay we've waited long enough, time for the official announcement please and thank you

I agree 100%. A person wants to pre order this and go on with their day. We've waited long enough already.

Reply #479 posted 04/22/17 12:54am

TheEnglishGent

jaypotton said:

Although to be fair what MOST people are pissed about is Warners issuing a misleading press release stating "two albums of unreleased material".


Something else to consider is that people are also being pissed based on unofficial leaked information. There's still been no official announcement. It's entirely possible that the tracks Militant listed have been put in the data base because they are set in stone, yet a second unreleased disc is still being compiled and not yet definite and so not yet registered.

It's also entirely possible that the information we have is what will be released. But at the moment, nothing is 100% certain, so people should just wait and see before getting their knickers in a twist.

RIP sad
Reply #480 posted 04/22/17 1:07am

Vannormal

rusty1 said:

I want that California show.. I think was in feb of 85.. Prince did "4 the tears in your eyes" Madonna & Springsteen came onto the stage. They were all huge stars at the same time:)

That was indeed a great show !

23 February 1985 in THE FORUM, Inglewood California.



“My body reeks with lust, I will rape you if i must.”
Reply #481 posted 04/22/17 1:38am

bluegangsta

TheEnglishGent said:

jaypotton said:



Something else to consider is that people are also being pissed based on unofficial leaked information. There's still been no official announcement. It's entirely possible that the tracks Militant listed have been put in the data base because they are set in stone, yet a second unreleased disc is still being compiled and not yet definite and so not yet registered.

It's also entirely possible that the information we have is what will be released. But at the moment, nothing is 100% certain, so people should just wait and see before getting their knickers in a twist.

If that is the case, it's the best time to voice our opinion on if this was the case.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #482 posted 04/22/17 3:22am

jaypotton

TheEnglishGent said:

 



jaypotton said:



 Although to be fair what MOST people are pissed about is Warners issuing a misleading press release stating "two albums of unreleased material".




Something else to consider is that people are also being pissed based on unofficial leaked information. There's still been no official announcement. It's entirely possible that the tracks Militant listed have been put in the data base because they are set in stone, yet a second unreleased disc is still being compiled and not yet definite and so not yet registered.

It's also entirely possible that the information we have is what will be released. But at the moment, nothing is 100% certain, so people should just wait and see before getting their knickers in a twist. 



True very true. The fans have made an assumption there would be an official announcement on 21 April but nobody (including Warners) ever said when they would be making an official announcement. It will come when they planned for it to come because I guarantee it is all planned into the schedule amongst all the other artists Warners are involved with.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #483 posted 04/22/17 5:30am

Dandroppedadime

Just thought of something..... people keep referring to the unreleased full length versions of the PR songs not being included in the set, but wouldn't it be cool if they were plannning to release a version of the album with all the full length songs intact, that would be the best way to release those songs rather than on a bonus disk?
Reply #484 posted 04/22/17 5:42am

love2thenines2003

Just my guess.....not sure that PR Deluxe will be released somewhere in June. ..not even sure or so that the exclusive Trax list shared by Militant is the good one...so ?
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Reply #485 posted 04/22/17 6:33am

udo

So....

For disc 2 and 3, what songs did we already have, did we already know, maybe in an alternate version?

What otehr info can we add to these titles?

Please report per track, disc.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill
Reply #486 posted 04/22/17 6:49am

OnlyNDaUsa

udo said:

So....

For disc 2 and 3, what songs did we already have, did we already know, maybe in an alternate version?

What otehr info can we add to these titles?

Please report per track, disc.

I have known about them or at leats some version of all of them. And have heard most of (a version) of most of them.

One issue I see is some people who have most of these and if one of the shows is a re-release of Syracuse... then some will not be willing to spend as much $ on the set and the average fan may not be willing to pay more that $40... if all they want is Purple Rain then the full set may not be worth it for the "remaster."

Which is why I said I thought there would be a stand alone CD (maybe a 2 CD set with 1 and 2) and one with the 3 cds and one with all 5. (maybe a even more limited special set).

I think it is so cool that Militant got this info first! Literally, a worldwide scoop that is being picked up all over the place! But to be honest, I rather have no edits and more alt versions. (Like one cd of official and unofficial alt version) and one of the unreleased songs... but guess what? I am pretty sure to get 2 of these anyway!

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #487 posted 04/22/17 6:50am

udo

So WB make us wait for a year for 1 disc of 'new' (old) material.

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It appears they are still stuck in their `1 release per year mantra` that they did when LPs and CDs were relevant.

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This means that, as I wrote before, you will never hear all -or at least a significant portion- of the unreleased music in the Vault or other P-related archives from an official release.

At this pace you need multiple lifetimes to even get close to such a goal.

The record company (or whatever WB does these days w.r.t. music) needs to understand that alternate structures exist to earn money from people with higher frequency releases.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill
Reply #488 posted 04/22/17 6:52am

NewpowerScarfo

What we do know, it was officially announced to having an June 9th release date. Here we are a little over an month from their stated release date, and we still don't have an official tracklist, price, packaging, or ever availability for pre order. Needless to say, fans has cause for concern how WB is rolling this out.

Reply #489 posted 04/22/17 6:56am

OnlyNDaUsa

NewpowerScarfo said:

What we do know, it was officially announced to having an June 9th release date. Here we are a little over an month from their stated release date, and we still don't have an official tracklist, price, packaging, or ever availability for pre order. Needless to say, fans has cause for concern how WB is rolling this out.

I am still thinking that the full reveal will be tomorrow (April 23) at the end of the Celebration. I suspect this was done at the request if the estate.

If not then sometime SOON! They are aware of the "leak" and their non-response is just that...

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #490 posted 04/22/17 7:04am

NewpowerScarfo

OnlyNDaUsa said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

What we do know, it was officially announced to having an June 9th release date. Here we are a little over an month from their stated release date, and we still don't have an official tracklist, price, packaging, or ever availability for pre order. Needless to say, fans has cause for concern how WB is rolling this out.

I am still thinking that the full reveal will be tomorrow (April 23) at the end of the Celebration. I suspect this was done at the request if the estate.

If not then sometime SOON! They are aware of the "leak" and their non-response is just that...

That's all we're left with is guesses due to WB lack of info on this project. The longer they hold off on releasing details, the greater the chances for even more leaks.

Reply #491 posted 04/22/17 7:06am

OnlyNDaUsa

NewpowerScarfo said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I am still thinking that the full reveal will be tomorrow (April 23) at the end of the Celebration. I suspect this was done at the request if the estate.

If not then sometime SOON! They are aware of the "leak" and their non-response is just that...

That's all we're left with is guesses due to WB lack of info on this project. The longer they hold off on releasing details, the greater the chances for even more leaks.

I am not sure what makes or would make me more anxious. not knowing for sure or if I did know for sure!

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #492 posted 04/22/17 7:06am

Militant

moderator

TheEnglishGent said:

jaypotton said:



Something else to consider is that people are also being pissed based on unofficial leaked information. There's still been no official announcement. It's entirely possible that the tracks Militant listed have been put in the data base because they are set in stone, yet a second unreleased disc is still being compiled and not yet definite and so not yet registered.

Yep, this is definitely possible.


However..... if that were to be the case, the other disc would have different ISRC codes.

The ISRC codes that sequentially follow all these songs have already been given to an upcoming country release by an artist named Chris Janson, and the ISRC codes that precede the PR Deluxe ones belong to Steve Earle & The Dukes (album called So You Wanna Be An Outlaw) - both scheduled for release in June 2017 also. That said, there are some codes in that general area that appear to be blank, and could have been earmarked for another Prince disc.

The other thing I want to quickly point out, is that I am slightly annoyed at the picture edit with the blue background, which was made by The Prince Museum and based on my original graphic. The problem is that they've added numbers before the song, indicating sequence.

I specifically did not include numbers in the original edit because there's no way of knowing that the order the songs were registered in is going to be the order they will appear on the set.









Reply #493 posted 04/22/17 7:09am

Militant

moderator

NewpowerScarfo said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

our Militant is a little famous! I have seen several news stories about this! And I have gotten a few messages telling me about it! I said "yeah I know that guy!"

I admire two things about him: He has perfect hair like Jon Snow, and he's an natural fighter. His facebook post on getting an copyright strike for this leak earned my respect.

lol lol

Funnily enough my best friend went to school with Kit Harington. He's a great guy, from what I've heard, and deserves his success.

And thank you - yeah, I was super pissed with WB for that bullshit copyright strike. It was so petty of them.










Reply #494 posted 04/22/17 7:15am

NewpowerScarfo

Militant said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

I admire two things about him: He has perfect hair like Jon Snow, and he's an natural fighter. His facebook post on getting an copyright strike for this leak earned my respect.

lol lol

Funnily enough my best friend went to school with Kit Harington. He's a great guy, from what I've heard, and deserves his success.

And thank you - yeah, I was super pissed with WB for that bullshit copyright strike. It was so petty of them.










I met Kit (with the entire season 1 cast) at San Diego Comic Con back in 2011. He was an cool dude. Emilia Clarke was an goddess. ^_Q

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Reply #495 posted 04/22/17 7:45am

purpleprime

NewpowerScarfo said:

Militant said:

lol lol

Funnily enough my best friend went to school with Kit Harington. He's a great guy, from what I've heard, and deserves his success.

And thank you - yeah, I was super pissed with WB for that bullshit copyright strike. It was so petty of them.










I met Kit (with the entire season 1 cast) at San Diego Comic Con back in 2011. He was an cool dude. Emilia Clarke was an goddess. ^_Q

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hang on is Militant realy Kit Harington?...im confused confused

Reply #496 posted 04/22/17 8:08am

OnlyNDaUsa

purpleprime said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

I met Kit (with the entire season 1 cast) at San Diego Comic Con back in 2011. He was an cool dude. Emilia Clarke was an goddess. ^_Q

[Edited 4/22/17 7:25am]

hang on is Militant realy Kit Harington?...im confused confused

i thought kit was a candy bar?

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #497 posted 04/22/17 9:41am

TheEnglishGent

purpleprime said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

I met Kit (with the entire season 1 cast) at San Diego Comic Con back in 2011. He was an cool dude. Emilia Clarke was an goddess. ^_Q

[Edited 4/22/17 7:25am]

hang on is Militant realy Kit Harington?...im confused confused

You're confused? Imagine how I felt, the only Jon Snow which came to my mind was the UK's news journalist Jon Snow and I couldn't work out what was so fine about his hair.

RIP sad
Reply #498 posted 04/22/17 9:44am

TheEnglishGent

OnlyNDaUsa said:

purpleprime said:

hang on is Militant realy Kit Harington?...im confused confused

i thought kit was a candy bar?

Kit-Kat







RIP sad
Reply #499 posted 04/22/17 9:45am

TheEnglishGent

Kit-Kats and journalists? Come on WB, give us some official news, things are rapidly going downhill in this thread now! lol

RIP sad
Reply #500 posted 04/22/17 10:31am

rlj1010

TheEnglishGent said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

i thought kit was a candy bar?

Kit-Kat







Gimme a freaking break.

Reply #501 posted 04/22/17 11:00am

NewpowerScarfo

Since I kind of driven this thread a bit off course...I might as well push the peddle to the metal:

http://i.imgur.com/cWEjuFs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/I2Js8q0.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/wq06aEB.jpg

(ya'll have to excuse how blurry these pics are. I had an blackberry 9700 camera with the photo resolution of an potatoe.)

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Reply #502 posted 04/22/17 11:14am

love2thenines2003

Roadhouse Garden and Our Destiny have been played yesterday at P.PARK by the REVOLUTION. ....I say that I say nothing! cool
Reply #503 posted 04/22/17 2:22pm

BartVanHemelen

udo said:

So....

For disc 2 and 3, what songs did we already have, did we already know, maybe in an alternate version?

What otehr info can we add to these titles?

Please report per track, disc.

.

Dude, please just do some of this work yourself. Visit PrinceVault and write it up yourself and ask for input here. But almost "demanding" us to do this for you: not cool. Also: read this thread. Plenty of info already here.

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Reply #504 posted 04/22/17 2:24pm

BartVanHemelen

udo said:

So WB make us wait for a year for 1 disc of 'new' (old) material.

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Sigh. No, Prince made you wait DECADES.

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It appears they are still stuck in their `1 release per year mantra` that they did when LPs and CDs were relevant.

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You've already shown you know nothing about this release, yet here you are bitching and whining. This release was obviously held up since at least 2015 because Prince was sabotaging the process.

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Reply #505 posted 04/22/17 2:32pm

BartVanHemelen

master said:

jjam said:

Why not email Warners about your concerns?

They would never listen. There agenda is make as much money as possible for as little material as possible.

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Utter BS. The simple fact that this package will include two concert movies shows they're investing. Digitizing video and cleaning it up etc. takes a fuckload of money and is rarely worth the investments.

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Warner's have been terrible. 3 releases since princes death and made a pigs ear out of all.

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Which part of THE ESTATE IS NOT SETTLED do you lot find so fucking hard to comprehend?

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Reply #506 posted 04/22/17 2:46pm

BartVanHemelen

jaypotton said:

You assume I consider further release of Purple Rain a slight. I don't! It is just going to be an inevitable fact based on commerce and the desire by both the estate and Warners to exploit their assets.

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Newsflash: if this deluxe set doesn't do good business, none of that is likely to happen. Again: you're complaining about something that might not happen at all.

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Ever since reissues/remasters/deluxe editions etc started happening many artists and record companies have done this. Why won't it happen with Prince's material? The context for me making that comment of future releases was based on other people complaining that song X is not on this release. I was simply pointing out (based on established business practice) that they could well surface on future versions of Purple Rain. So what exactly is your beef?

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You're pretending this is some plan of them. It isn't. At this point Warners are trying to guess what balance to strike between investments and possible sales results. This is aggrevated by the fact Prince's estate is a mess and a bunch of chancers have already sold the rights to works they feel belong to them to another company in a suspect deal.

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And even on a practical level: Prince's vault seems to have been in a completely unorganised state. So sourcing track X and then applying all required work to get it release-ready is not some cheap operation.

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Bitching about this release because you imagine Warners is already busy planning some future release and are using this as a quick cash grab is absurd.

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Reply #507 posted 04/22/17 3:37pm

tmcjb

Someone should ask that fellow from Estonia if he's heard anything new about the PR release.

"Like the drummer said, you got to die."
Reply #508 posted 04/22/17 3:44pm

bobgeorge77

So I, like many, am dissappointed if Disc 2 comes out the way that it is listed here, but Disc 3 does look good. My big question is "why did they not officially announce this yesteday? and when will they get it announced officially and up for pre-order?? err I have my $$ waiting...I am ready to give it to u PP/ Estate/ Heirs and Lawyers...please let me!!! foodnow

Reply #509 posted 04/22/17 5:05pm

dadeepop

http://imgur.com/qoad16v

(I felt a need to make that candy bar purple.)

I'm happy if this is the actual track list. Could've been better, but also could've been a lot worse.

And apparently I need a refresher on how to post images. Help!

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"The password is what."
Reply #510 posted 04/22/17 5:27pm

master

BartVanHemelen said:

 



master said:


jjam said:

Why not email Warners about your concerns? 




They would never listen. There agenda is make as much money as possible for as little material as possible.

.


Utter BS. The simple fact that this package will include two concert movies shows they're investing. Digitizing video and cleaning it up etc. takes a fuckload of money and is rarely worth the investments.


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 Warner's have been terrible. 3 releases since princes death and made a pigs ear out of all.

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Which part of THE ESTATE IS NOT SETTLED do you lot find so fucking hard to comprehend?


I take it all back they are truly spoiling us.I will sit through the full syracuse baby I'm a star jam as punishment. It better be full HD 4D hologram version
Reply #511 posted 04/22/17 7:54pm

ElectricDancer

BartVanHemelen, what is your problem?
Every post I've ever seen by you in this and every thread is an attack on someone else with some smug superior attitude.
It would be one thing if you made other positive contributions to this board, but all you ever do is post to pounce others. Every-single-time.
You're fucked up man.
Reply #512 posted 04/22/17 8:00pm

OnlyNDaUsa

Yeah, his nice/rude post ratio is a little one sided... but he is old, he's been around longer than me! LOL he was doing this back in the mid 90's...

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #513 posted 04/22/17 9:01pm

NewpowerScarfo

I know I'm ancient. I've been here when the regular posters were Aaron, Superman, Ben,.....I forget the rest. Back then I was known as Loakum An Smokum. lol, memories...

Reply #514 posted 04/23/17 12:36am

rob1965

I'm excited. Looks nice. Hopefully they gave a lot of thought about the packaging as well. Not unimportant. With the release of 4Ever they talked about 'never before seen photos of Prince which was a joke of course.
[Edited 4/23/17 0:39am]
'Liberate My Mind'
Reply #515 posted 04/23/17 12:52am

TheEnglishGent

dadeepop said:

http://imgur.com/qoad16v

(I felt a need to make that candy bar purple.)

I'm happy if this is the actual track list. Could've been better, but also could've been a lot worse.

And apparently I need a refresher on how to post images. Help!

[Edited 4/22/17 18:16pm]


When you make a post, there's a little icon that looks like a tree. Click on that and you get a pop up into which you can paste your image link. Paste in the image link then click insert and you're done.

RIP sad
Reply #516 posted 04/23/17 12:55am

BartVanHemelen

ElectricDancer said:

BartVanHemelen, what is your problem? Every post I've ever seen by you in this and every thread is an attack on someone else with some smug superior attitude. It would be one thing if you made other positive contributions to this board, but all you ever do is post to pounce others. Every-single-time. You're fucked up man.

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Or you could read what I wrote and notice how I attack bad opinions which are often based on ill-informed ideas about how things work. It's you who posted a personal attack, not me. If I'm wrong, prove me wrong, simple as that.

© Bart Van Hemelen
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
Reply #517 posted 04/23/17 2:13am

jaypotton

BartVanHemelen said:

 



jaypotton said:



You assume I consider further release of Purple Rain a slight. I don't! It is just going to be an inevitable fact based on commerce and the desire by both the estate and Warners to exploit their assets.

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Newsflash: if this deluxe set doesn't do good business, none of that is likely to happen. Again: you're complaining about something that might not happen at all.


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Ever since reissues/remasters/deluxe editions etc started happening many artists and record companies have done this. Why won't it happen with Prince's material? The context for me making that comment of future releases was based on other people complaining that song X is not on this release. I was simply pointing out (based on established business practice) that they could well surface on future versions of Purple Rain. So what exactly is your beef?

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You're pretending this is some plan of them. It isn't. At this point Warners are trying to guess what balance to strike between investments and possible sales results. This is aggrevated by the fact Prince's estate is a mess and a bunch of chancers have already sold the rights to works they feel belong to them to another company in a suspect deal.


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And even on a practical level: Prince's vault seems to have been in a completely unorganised state. So sourcing track X and then applying all required work to get it release-ready is not some cheap operation.


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Bitching about this release because you imagine Warners is already busy planning some future release and are using this as a quick cash grab is absurd.



And once again you try and put words in my mouth or tell me what I am thinking!

Read my posts Bart. I am not bitching about anything (apart from a misleading press release from Warners some months back).

At no point did I say whether it was wrong or right that in future there will likely be a super dooper deluxe etc release. I was saying that (clearly if deemed commercially viable) we can expect this to not be the last time Purple Rain gets a release.

Again you ignore the context of why I was saying it...because people were moaning track X or Y were not on this release. Newflash back at you: at some point if the profit to be made justifies the investment then Warners/the estate will want to sweat their assets! Newsflash 2: me stating that realistic scenario is NOT the same as me bitching about it.

You know full well how commerce works so stop trying to position what I have said as anything other then pointing out a potential realistic scenario for the future.

Come on Bart you are better than that. While you like to dish out shit and paint 99% of Prince fans as purple koolade drinking nutcases with no basic grasp of business, law or common sense, you need to get better at making the distinction between "bitching" and discussing realistic scenarios (and keep in mind the context in which a point was raised).
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #518 posted 04/23/17 3:38am

SomeSoldier

BartVanHemelen said:

 



ElectricDancer said:


BartVanHemelen, what is your problem? Every post I've ever seen by you in this and every thread is an attack on someone else with some smug superior attitude. It would be one thing if you made other positive contributions to this board, but all you ever do is post to pounce others. Every-single-time. You're fucked up man.

.


Or you could read what I wrote and notice how I attack bad opinions which are often based on ill-informed ideas about how things work. It's you who posted a personal attack, not me. If I'm wrong, prove me wrong, simple as that.


There is not such a thing as 'bad opinions'. There's factually wrong information and uninformed speculation. And nobody objects to you correcting or challenging those. It's the way that you do it that people have a problem with. Every time you start a post with oh 'please', or 'for crying out loud' or 'newsflash' you come across as a smug, intolerant and very miserable individual.
Reply #519 posted 04/23/17 3:50am

udo

BartVanHemelen said:

udo said:

So WB make us wait for a year for 1 disc of 'new' (old) material.

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Sigh. No, Prince made you wait DECADES.

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It appears they are still stuck in their `1 release per year mantra` that they did when LPs and CDs were relevant.

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You've already shown you know nothing about this release, yet here you are bitching and whining. This release was obviously held up since at least 2015 because Prince was sabotaging the process.

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What P did was his fault.

After his death, why didn't WB release the PR remaster within a month of his cremation?

Because the estate was not up and running?

Because they needed goodies from the vault?

Because they do not need any monies extracted from them fans?

Because the heirs do not want the cash?

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I did know the tracklisat of disc one as of the first days of rumors about this release.

As shown there were plenty ideas of making this a 5-disc set and we would still be missing gems.

I do understand that these tracks are simply gathered from some database (with isrc things) and do not necessarily describe the whole release but might still do that perfectly.

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I am not whining nor bitching when I state the obvious fact that WB cannot even get close to find the actual optimum release frequency which brings them the most cash. Where and when ever did they experiment, in the past two decades, with multiple Prince releases per year? Different products based on one release? (3-disc PR for Joe Blow, 5-disc for the fans...)

Where and when will they experiment to find out the ctual optimum release frequency which brings them the most cash?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill
Reply #520 posted 04/23/17 3:52am

udo

BartVanHemelen said:

udo said:

Please report per track, disc.

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Dude, please just do some of this work yourself. Visit PrinceVault and write it up yourself and ask for input here. But almost "demanding" us to do this for you: not cool. Also: read this thread. Plenty of info already here.

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Dude, I did check the princevault site.

Not all songs are there.

No all details, infos, stories are there.

If asking for such infos is already too much and princevault is supposed to be the one and only truth why don't we have edit access there?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill
Reply #521 posted 04/23/17 4:12am

alb69

Is there anybody out there who could share some more info , besides the info on princevault, on sound, tempo etc of songs like

love & sex

we can fuck (will the sound be more purplerainish than the graff bridge version for instance?)

dance electric (its lenght!)

k paper dolls

etc

thanx

Reply #522 posted 04/23/17 5:09am

Revolution81

alb69 said:

Is there anybody out there who could share some more info , besides the info on princevault, on sound, tempo etc of songs like 


 


love & sex


we can fuck (will the sound be more purplerainish than the graff bridge version for instance?)


dance electric (its lenght!)


k paper dolls


 


etc


 


 


thanx


U can hear most of "love and sex" as a phone recording from some questlove dj set.
Unique vocal delivery, great lyrics and awesome purple rain era sound with some backwards electric guitar. It's gonna be great to hear this one in its pristine remastered entirety
Reply #523 posted 04/23/17 5:14am

Romeoblu

Revolution81 said:

alb69 said:

Is there anybody out there who could share some more info , besides the info on princevault, on sound, tempo etc of songs like 


 


love & sex


we can fuck (will the sound be more purplerainish than the graff bridge version for instance?)


dance electric (its lenght!)


k paper dolls


 


etc


 


 


thanx


U can hear most of "love and sex" as a phone recording from some questlove dj set.
Unique vocal delivery, great lyrics and awesome purple rain era sound with some backwards electric guitar. It's gonna be great to hear this one in its pristine remastered entirety


They might have used the questlove phone leak on this release.
Reply #524 posted 04/23/17 5:20am

TheEnglishGent

Romeoblu said:

Revolution81 said:


U can hear most of "love and sex" as a phone recording from some questlove dj set.
Unique vocal delivery, great lyrics and awesome purple rain era sound with some backwards electric guitar. It's gonna be great to hear this one in its pristine remastered entirety


They might have used the questlove phone leak on this release.

lol
RIP sad
Reply #525 posted 04/23/17 5:22am

Revolution81

Romeoblu said:

Revolution81 said:
U can hear most of "love and sex" as a phone recording from some questlove dj set. Unique vocal delivery, great lyrics and awesome purple rain era sound with some backwards electric guitar. It's gonna be great to hear this one in its pristine remastered entirety
They might have used the questlove phone leak on this release.

Well at least it will have been remastered lol

Reply #526 posted 04/23/17 6:16am

dadeepop

TheEnglishGent said:

dadeepop said:

http://imgur.com/qoad16v

(I felt a need to make that candy bar purple.)

I'm happy if this is the actual track list. Could've been better, but also could've been a lot worse.

And apparently I need a refresher on how to post images. Help!

[Edited 4/22/17 18:16pm]


When you make a post, there's a little icon that looks like a tree. Click on that and you get a pop up into which you can paste your image link. Paste in the image link then click insert and you're done.




It's a purple miracle! I thought I had tried that. Thanks! Now, what were we all talking about? lol

"The password is what."
Reply #527 posted 04/23/17 6:20am

tbokris

I don't tend to post much anymore on this board (I used to go by a different user name in the 2000s) but so much of this whole thread is utter bollocks spouted by trolls who feel entitled.

I am a massive Prince fan, and have been eagerly awaiting this release for years as have many of you, but I am disgusted by some of the behaviour of people on this thread.

Thanks Militant for sharing the leaked info

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Reply #528 posted 04/23/17 8:36am

injuredpinky

TheEnglishGent said:

purpleprime said:

hang on is Militant realy Kit Harington?...im confused confused

You're confused? Imagine how I felt, the only Jon Snow which came to my mind was the UK's news journalist Jon Snow and I couldn't work out what was so fine about his hair.

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Lol. This Jon Snow has the other meaning of "fine" hair.

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(of a thread, filament, or person's hair) thin.

Reply #529 posted 04/23/17 8:50am

Guitarhero

SomeSoldier said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Or you could read what I wrote and notice how I attack bad opinions which are often based on ill-informed ideas about how things work. It's you who posted a personal attack, not me. If I'm wrong, prove me wrong, simple as that.

There is not such a thing as 'bad opinions'. There's factually wrong information and uninformed speculation. And nobody objects to you correcting or challenging those. It's the way that you do it that people have a problem with. Every time you start a post with oh 'please', or 'for crying out loud' or 'newsflash' you come across as a smug, intolerant and very miserable individual.

You forgot rude and arrogant too. razz

Love and miss you so much Julita xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx heart Rest in Peace
Reply #530 posted 04/23/17 8:51am

Guitarhero

I will buy it for Disc 1 and 3 cool

Love and miss you so much Julita xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx heart Rest in Peace
Reply #531 posted 04/23/17 8:54am

Guitarhero

Be civilized
Don't create offensive, vulgar, obscene, threatening, abusive or excessively profane posts. Do not instigate, engage in, or encourage 'flame wars'. If you insult someone "jokingly", be prepared to have it not interpreted that way by the Moderators. A good general rule: "criticize ideas, not people." Any language which encourages conduct that would constitute a criminal offense is grounds for immediate account deletion.

This rule is broken time and time again . Always the same peeps too.

Love and miss you so much Julita xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx heart Rest in Peace
Reply #532 posted 04/23/17 9:53am

mushmackalenta

I was looking forward to this release accept the The remaster and 12 inch b sides part that I don't need. People need to except it for what it is and lower you're expectations.

Their are plenty of people who enjoy this release and a handful who will be dissappointed, especially as the release won't be made in June to further fuel the fire.
[Edited 4/23/17 9:54am]
Reply #533 posted 04/23/17 10:16am

eyewishuheaven

Kinda feelin' like tomorrow's likely for a formal announcement on this. The anniversary has past, and it's a Monday, which gives them a whole week's worth of watercooler discussion and word of mouth...

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #534 posted 04/23/17 12:01pm

alanhoey

Didn't the press release say 'two discs of unreleased music'?
I can only see one. Disc 3 looks great but who on earth wants edits? Although they will probably save stuff for future editions like they did with Fleetwood Mac's Rumours et al.
Reply #535 posted 04/23/17 12:13pm

eyewishuheaven

alanhoey said:

Didn't the press release say 'two discs of unreleased music'? I can only see one.


They said "two albums of unreleased music". So technically, if you get the vinyl version, yes, you'll have two albums of new cuts.

Pretty sneaky wording, but there you go.


[Edited 4/23/17 12:13pm]

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #536 posted 04/23/17 1:27pm

TheEnglishGent

eyewishuheaven said:

alanhoey said:

Didn't the press release say 'two discs of unreleased music'? I can only see one.


They said "two albums of unreleased music". So technically, if you get the vinyl version, yes, you'll have two albums of new cuts.

Pretty sneaky wording, but there you go.


[Edited 4/23/17 12:13pm]

And also, nothing is officially announced yet, so things may or may not change from the info we have.

RIP sad
Reply #537 posted 04/23/17 2:12pm

ElectricDancer

SomeSoldier said:

There is not such a thing as 'bad opinions'. There's factually wrong information and uninformed speculation.

Bingo.

SomeSoldier said:

Every time you start a post with oh 'please', or 'for crying out loud' or 'newsflash' you come across as a smug, intolerant and very miserable individual.

Exactly.

Reply #538 posted 04/23/17 3:09pm

alanhoey

eyewishuheaven said:

 



alanhoey said:


Didn't the press release say 'two discs of unreleased music'? I can only see one.


They said "two albums of unreleased music". So technically, if you get the vinyl version, yes, you'll have two albums of new cuts.

Pretty sneaky wording, but there you go.  


 

[Edited 4/23/17 12:13pm]


To be honest, upon reflection it's not as bad as it looks (disc 2). It had to be there really and not everyone buying it will experts or die hards. To have them in remastered form would be nice anyway I suppose. Disc 3 looks great though although if I had to add one track it would be the extended Beautiful Ones.
I think there will be future editions anyway, 40th anniversary etc.
Reply #539 posted 04/23/17 4:09pm

bilbolives

http://www.startribune.com/from-reissues-to-reunions-what-prince-fans-can-look-forward-to-this-year/420184433/

The Minneapolis Star Tribune is reporting on the "Purple Rain" reissue as well as other upcoming events.

Reply #540 posted 04/23/17 10:50pm

love2thenines2003

bilbolives said:

http://www.startribune.com/from-reissues-to-reunions-what-prince-fans-can-look-forward-to-this-year/420184433/


 


The Minneapolis Star Tribune is reporting on the "Purple Rain" reissue as well as other upcoming events.



I think Star Tribune is speculating a lot about the Reissues !
Reply #541 posted 04/24/17 12:38am

Crump

love2thenines2003 said:

bilbolives said:

http://www.startribune.com/from-reissues-to-reunions-what-prince-fans-can-look-forward-to-this-year/420184433/

The Minneapolis Star Tribune is reporting on the "Purple Rain" reissue as well as other upcoming events.

I think Star Tribune is speculating a lot about the Reissues !


So its June 16th now...

[Edited 4/24/17 0:38am]

Reply #542 posted 04/24/17 1:19am

love2thenines2003

I was almost sure that at the end of the Celebration in PPark a press release from WB was due.....but I was wrong....at this stage no press announcement from WB 4 PR Deluxe....I wonder when and if the Box will be released in the end...grrrrr!
[Edited 4/24/17 1:19am]
Reply #543 posted 04/24/17 5:19am

RODSERLING

love2thenines2003 said:

I was almost sure that at the end of the Celebration in PPark a press release from WB was due.....but I was wrong....at this stage no press announcement from WB 4 PR Deluxe....I wonder when and if the Box will be released in the end...grrrrr! [Edited 4/24/17 1:19am]

Even if it was announced today, Purple Rain could't be released before june 24th. A physical release has to be announced, priced, and tracklisted at least two months before the D-day.

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If it is ever released, I think september 2017 would be more realistic. I don't see WBR releasing it in summer, otherwise the sales would be disappointing.

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I still think there are legal issues surrounding the project. Otherwise, it would have been released last year (not to mention the fact that it was supposed to be released 3 years ago).

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The material, audio and video, is in WB's vault for more than 30 years, so if they still don't release it, is because they still can't.

[Edited 4/24/17 5:22am]

Reply #544 posted 04/24/17 5:36am

whitesockedfunk

RODSERLING said:

love2thenines2003 said:

I was almost sure that at the end of the Celebration in PPark a press release from WB was due.....but I was wrong....at this stage no press announcement from WB 4 PR Deluxe....I wonder when and if the Box will be released in the end...grrrrr! [Edited 4/24/17 1:19am]

Even if it was announced today, Purple Rain could't be released before june 24th. A physical release has to be announced, priced, and tracklisted at least two months before the D-day.

Not really, the Fleetwood Mac "Tango In The Night" reissues were announced on 25 January for a 10 March release (even though it was then delayed by three weeks). The Stevie Nicks deluxe editions for "Bella Donna" and "Wild Heart" were announced 5 October 2016 with a 4 November 2016 release date. And all these are on Warner/Reprise just like "Purple Rain". Then of course there are "surprise"-albums like Beyonce's "Lemonade" that were released without any notice whatsoever.

So 16 June or even 9 June still is possible.

[Edited 4/24/17 5:38am]

Just like the white winged dove...
Reply #545 posted 04/24/17 6:22am

RODSERLING

whitesockedfunk said:

RODSERLING said:

Even if it was announced today, Purple Rain could't be released before june 24th. A physical release has to be announced, priced, and tracklisted at least two months before the D-day.

Not really, the Fleetwood Mac "Tango In The Night" reissues were announced on 25 January for a 10 March release (even though it was then delayed by three weeks). The Stevie Nicks deluxe editions for "Bella Donna" and "Wild Heart" were announced 5 October 2016 with a 4 November 2016 release date. And all these are on Warner/Reprise just like "Purple Rain". Then of course there are "surprise"-albums like Beyonce's "Lemonade" that were released without any notice whatsoever.

So 16 June or even 9 June still is possible.

[Edited 4/24/17 5:38am]

TANGO IN THE NIGHT : not relevant here because it was announced more than 2 months before release (!)

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LEMONADE is not a physical release, so not relevant at all here. Digital release, so no stocks needed. It can be announced the day before.

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The Stevie Nicks reissues are a niche, WB doesn't need two months to print them, and amazon won't be flooded by hundred of thousand of unplanned orders and deliveries.

Reply #546 posted 04/24/17 6:37am

jaypotton

RODSERLING said:

 



whitesockedfunk said:


 



RODSERLING said:


 


Even if it was announced today, Purple Rain could't be released before june 24th. A physical release has to be announced, priced, and tracklisted at least two months before the D-day.



 


Not really, the Fleetwood Mac "Tango In The Night" reissues were announced on 25 January for a 10 March release (even though it was then delayed by three weeks). The Stevie Nicks deluxe editions for "Bella Donna" and "Wild Heart" were announced 5 October 2016 with a 4 November 2016 release date. And all these are on Warner/Reprise just like "Purple Rain". Then of course there are "surprise"-albums like Beyonce's "Lemonade" that were released without any notice whatsoever.


 


So 16 June or even 9 June still is possible. 


[Edited 4/24/17 5:38am]



TANGO IN THE NIGHT : not relevant here because it was announced more than 2 months before release (!)


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LEMONADE is not a physical release, so not relevant at all here. Digital release, so no stocks needed. It can be announced the day before.


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The Stevie Nicks reissues are a niche, WB doesn't need two months to print them, and amazon won't be flooded by hundred of thousand of unplanned orders and deliveries.



Do YOU really think Amazon etc are going to be flooded with hundreds of thousands of unplanned orders for Purple Rain deluxe? I mean I hope it is THAT popular as that will demonstrate a potential level of demand for Prince going forward and we will get more!!!
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #547 posted 04/24/17 7:02am

mushmackalenta

So yet another day passes where people expected to get official word of the release date and release details and still nothing.

I'll tell you again for 100% sure this ain't getting released anytime soon. This ain't a hunch or pessimism IT'S FOR SURE.
Reply #548 posted 04/24/17 7:25am

BartVanHemelen

udo said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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You've already shown you know nothing about this release, yet here you are bitching and whining. This release was obviously held up since at least 2015 because Prince was sabotaging the process.

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What P did was his fault.

After his death, why didn't WB release the PR remaster within a month of his cremation?

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Because things don't work that fast. Also: contractual minefield.

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I am not whining nor bitching when I state the obvious fact that WB cannot even get close to find the actual optimum release frequency which brings them the most cash. Where and when ever did they experiment, in the past two decades, with multiple Prince releases per year? Different products based on one release? (3-disc PR for Joe Blow, 5-disc for the fans...)

Where and when will they experiment to find out the ctual optimum release frequency which brings them the most cash?

.

This is beyond naive.

© Bart Van Hemelen
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
Reply #549 posted 04/24/17 7:30am

RODSERLING

jaypotton said:

RODSERLING said:

TANGO IN THE NIGHT : not relevant here because it was announced more than 2 months before release (!)

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LEMONADE is not a physical release, so not relevant at all here. Digital release, so no stocks needed. It can be announced the day before.

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The Stevie Nicks reissues are a niche, WB doesn't need two months to print them, and amazon won't be flooded by hundred of thousand of unplanned orders and deliveries.

Do YOU really think Amazon etc are going to be flooded with hundreds of thousands of unplanned orders for Purple Rain deluxe? I mean I hope it is THAT popular as that will demonstrate a potential level of demand for Prince going forward and we will get more!!!

Purple Rain usually sells 100.000 a year in the US only.

So if there is promotion for the deluxe edition, it could sold 500.000 in the US this year.

Reply #550 posted 04/24/17 7:39am

RODSERLING

In the contrary, Sony released the THIS IS IT soundtrack exactly 4 months after MJ's death. It contained 5 unreleased tracks. One of which had even been reorchestrated (!). So of course it can be done that fast.

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MJ's contract with Sony was over since 2004. His estate and Sony signed in a hurry an agreement for this release, in order to benefit from MJ's death as quickly as possible.

And like Prince with WB, MJ was in a feud with Sony.

BartVanHemelen said:

udo said:

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Because things don't work that fast. Also: contractual minefield.

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I am not whining nor bitching when I state the obvious fact that WB cannot even get close to find the actual optimum release frequency which brings them the most cash. Where and when ever did they experiment, in the past two decades, with multiple Prince releases per year? Different products based on one release? (3-disc PR for Joe Blow, 5-disc for the fans...)

Where and when will they experiment to find out the ctual optimum release frequency which brings them the most cash?

.

This is beyond naive.

Reply #551 posted 04/24/17 7:40am

BartVanHemelen

udo said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Dude, please just do some of this work yourself. Visit PrinceVault and write it up yourself and ask for input here. But almost "demanding" us to do this for you: not cool. Also: read this thread. Plenty of info already here.

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Dude, I did check the princevault site.

Not all songs are there.

No all details, infos, stories are there.

If asking for such infos is already too much and princevault is supposed to be the one and only truth why don't we have edit access there?

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You could have easily written up the available info yourself (combining the data from PrinceVault and other resources, especially the info given in this thread), and then asked people to fill in the gaps. But that is not what you did.

© Bart Van Hemelen
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
Reply #552 posted 04/24/17 7:47am

BartVanHemelen

RODSERLING said:

In the contrary, Sony released the THIS IS IT soundtrack exactly 4 months after MJ's death. It contained 5 unreleased tracks. One of which had even been reorchestrated (!). So of course it can be done that fast.

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MJ's contract with Sony was over since 2004. His estate and Sony signed in a hurry an agreement for this release, in order to benefit from MJ's death as quickly as possible.

And like Prince with WB, MJ was in a feud with Sony.

BartVanHemelen said:

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The feud is irrelevant. MJ's heirs wanted to cash in on his death and didn't spend a year battling each other. Simple as that.

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Reply #553 posted 04/24/17 8:01am

RODSERLING

BartVanHemelen said:

RODSERLING said:

In the contrary, Sony released the THIS IS IT soundtrack exactly 4 months after MJ's death. It contained 5 unreleased tracks. One of which had even been reorchestrated (!). So of course it can be done that fast.

.

MJ's contract with Sony was over since 2004. His estate and Sony signed in a hurry an agreement for this release, in order to benefit from MJ's death as quickly as possible.

And like Prince with WB, MJ was in a feud with Sony.

.

The feud is irrelevant. MJ's heirs wanted to cash in on his death and didn't spend a year battling each other. Simple as that.

Because Prince's heirs doesn't want to cash in on Prince's death ?

And MJ's brothers tried to take their part of the cake, and battled each other saying MJ's will was a fake, etc.

Reply #554 posted 04/24/17 9:41am

charismatic

RODSERLING said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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The feud is irrelevant. MJ's heirs wanted to cash in on his death and didn't spend a year battling each other. Simple as that.

Because Prince's heirs doesn't want to cash in on Prince's death ?

And MJ's brothers tried to take their part of the cake, and battled each other saying MJ's will was a fake, etc.

The Estates job should be to generate and maximize income for the beneficiares of the estate. So no matter how you look at it, they will make money off of his death.

Reply #555 posted 04/24/17 11:16am

databank

IMHO, in case WB is listening...

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The good

- WB had the sense not to include any Apollonia 6 or The Time material.

- Most single edits and extended cuts are included.

- Though I need to see how it works in sequence, I'll be glad to hear the CD of unreleased material as it is. Anything from the vault is good news anyway.

- WB and the estate seem to be legally capable of using Prince's versions of tracks Prince had given to other labels through another artist (TDE, in that case), which I feared they wouldn't.

.

The bad

- Why announce 2 CD's then give only one? This is WB doing exactly what fans blamed Prince for doing all these years: misleading info and promises that lead nowhere... Bad business!

- No all tracks on CD 3 are from the PR sessions, in the sense that some were recorded after the album was sequenced/released. One can assume that this was done on purpose just to maintain a certain cohesiveness in sound, though, and honestly I don't really care as long as I get vault material in the end, but this doesn't make WB look too professional in terms of archiving.

- Technically, the original version of 4 The Time In Your Eyes was released before ATWIAD, therefore during the PR era, so it should have been included here. My guess is WB felt it belongs more on a potential ATWIAD remaster, though.

.

The ugly

- There were actually no less than FIVE different single edits of Purple Rain and only one made the cut. I hope WB will have the sense of releasing the 4 others at least digitally on iTunes or something, particularly since some of those are very rare (there's 2 that I've never, ever found anywhere in digital format).

- Audio versions of the 4 live music videos (Baby, TMWU + 2 edits of IWD4U), as well as the AMA PR and the Grammy Baby I'm A Star TV performances should have been included. Hopefully WB will have the sense to include all of those in video format on one of the 2 DVD's alongside the other PR promo videos.

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On a sidenote regarding the DVD's, I'm not sure if those have ever been properly archived but the promo live clips from the PR tour sent to local TV stations would be a must on that DVD!

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...iscog/home
Reply #556 posted 04/24/17 11:28am

christobole

BartVanHemelen said:

ElectricDancer said:

BartVanHemelen, what is your problem? Every post I've ever seen by you in this and every thread is an attack on someone else with some smug superior attitude. It would be one thing if you made other positive contributions to this board, but all you ever do is post to pounce others. Every-single-time. You're fucked up man.

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Or you could read what I wrote and notice how I attack bad opinions which are often based on ill-informed ideas about how things work. It's you who posted a personal attack, not me. If I'm wrong, prove me wrong, simple as that.

Bart is right, I actually look forward to his well-reasoned and educated posts, while I skip many other posters' uninformed and naive rubbish.

Reply #557 posted 04/24/17 12:25pm

Abdul

I'm getting this for Disc 3, can't wait!

Reply #558 posted 04/24/17 12:29pm

jaypotton

christobole said:

 



BartVanHemelen said:


 



ElectricDancer said:


BartVanHemelen, what is your problem? Every post I've ever seen by you in this and every thread is an attack on someone else with some smug superior attitude. It would be one thing if you made other positive contributions to this board, but all you ever do is post to pounce others. Every-single-time. You're fucked up man.

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Or you could read what I wrote and notice how I attack bad opinions which are often based on ill-informed ideas about how things work. It's you who posted a personal attack, not me. If I'm wrong, prove me wrong, simple as that.



Bart is right, I actually look forward to his well-reasoned and educated posts, while I skip many other posters' uninformed and naive rubbish.



Actually generally I like reading Bart's posts and have done for nearly 20 years!

A lot of people challenge the style of his posts because they often come across as aggressive and pompous. Bart almost always comes at the Org from a position of self believed superiority and an assumption that 99% of people here are purple koolade drinking wackos with no basic understanding of business or common sense!

Bart has not had the good grace to admit he was wrong in taking what I was saying out of context, put words in my mouth and make assumptions to try and prove a point (page 18).

If Bart was big enough to actually admit he gets it wrong sometimes people might cut him a bit of slack.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #559 posted 04/24/17 12:36pm

Abdul

jaypotton said:


Oh for sure I would want more music (it would be about 35 mins more if I am being pedantic) but personally I would prefer that on another CD and keep the "album" as intended. Remember it will also be bought as a download so those unknowing youngsters may think all those b-sides were part of the "album". Maybe I am just old school but I would want to protect the integrity of the "album" Prince created biggrin The other thing people need to recognise is that, as Billy Sparks said, "this is a bidness mother fucker" [sic] and WB don't want to blow all their exploitable assets in one go. They can milk the Vault for years to come and can even milk PR further with the ultimate super duper deluxe edition with the 2 track demo version of the solo bass track intended for When Doves Cry included (I am joking but you see the point...record companies are still exploiting the Beatles recordings years later by releasing ever more obscure versions of known songs etc).

BINGO! nod

Reply #560 posted 04/24/17 1:44pm

Crump

I've seen a few sources quote the 16th June so it would be good to know where this new date came from: WB or....?

Reply #561 posted 04/24/17 2:09pm

eyewishuheaven

databank said:

- Why announce 2 CD's then give only one?


Once again, it should be said that WB said "two albums of unreleased material". At 76 minutes, if you buy the vinyl version, that's exactly what you're gonna get. Sneaky wording, true, but not necessarily a bald-faced lie.

And as far as this 'one measly disc of unreleased material' goes, it's longer than 1999, and almost as long as Sign o' the Times. WB could have kept to their word and split it into two 38 minute (or so) cds, but then the cost of the package would go up and we'd all be crying about the unused disc space.

The alternative: jam-pack both cds with 80 minutes of music each? That'd translate to 4 LPs of unreleased music which, while desirable of course, would raise the cost of the vinyl set out of reach for a lot of people, I think.

But you're absolutely correct: WB could have said "1 cd/2 lps worth of unreleased material", and we'd all feel much better about the situation.

That said, I think it's a great set. cool

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #562 posted 04/24/17 2:15pm

tmcjb

eyewishuheaven said:

databank said:

- Why announce 2 CD's then give only one?


Once again, it should be said that WB said "two albums of unreleased material". At 76 minutes, if you buy the vinyl version, that's exactly what you're gonna get. Sneaky wording, true, but not necessarily a bald-faced lie.

This begs the question, will there be a vinyl release of the unreleased tracks? Normally for these deluxe two-or-more disc deals they only release the first disc. I'd be surprised if they release more than just Purple Rain remastered on vinyl...I'll probably end up buying both the boxset and the vinyl. razz

"Like the drummer said, you got to die."
Reply #563 posted 04/24/17 2:21pm

eyewishuheaven

tmcjb said:

eyewishuheaven said:


Once again, it should be said that WB said "two albums of unreleased material". At 76 minutes, if you buy the vinyl version, that's exactly what you're gonna get. Sneaky wording, true, but not necessarily a bald-faced lie.

This begs the question, will there be a vinyl release of the unreleased tracks? Normally for these deluxe two-or-more disc deals they only release the first disc. I'd be surprised if they release more than just Purple Rain remastered on vinyl...I'll probably end up buying both the boxset and the vinyl. razz


If they don't, then their statement will have been an out-and-out lie.

But I'm betting they will... it's been working for David Bowie! biggrin

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #564 posted 04/24/17 3:22pm

jaawwnn

I'd be VERY surprised if there wasnt a vinyl release, most modern reissues get them. I actually have no interest in outtakes on vinyl or repressed old albums myself but I could see there being a six vinyl or something version with both the original album and the unreleased stuff on it.
[Edited 4/24/17 17:39pm]
Reply #565 posted 04/24/17 4:52pm

Dandroppedadime

I'm actually happy the full length original versions of the purple rain album are NOT included, as it allows for a future release where we can appreciate and digest the material while not taking away from the original 'edits' album (rightly released first).
Also the bonus disk can feature the associates material including Wednesday, modernaire, plus the time and A6 material.
Reply #566 posted 04/24/17 10:12pm

udo

BartVanHemelen said:

This is beyond naive.

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Assuming a commercial entity wants maximum gain is naive?

Assuming that they did not sufficiently research this fanbase is naive?

How many comparable cases did they encounter in the past two decades?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill
Reply #567 posted 04/24/17 10:36pm

bluegangsta

Dandroppedadime said:

I'm actually happy the full length original versions of the purple rain album are NOT included, as it allows for a future release where we can appreciate and digest the material while not taking away from the original 'edits' album (rightly released first). Also the bonus disk can feature the associates material including Wednesday, modernaire, plus the time and A6 material.

Great, now you're just encouraging them to release the same thing with a couple of unreleased tracks for every few anniversarys.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #568 posted 04/24/17 11:50pm

RODSERLING

Abdul said:

jaypotton said:


Oh for sure I would want more music (it would be about 35 mins more if I am being pedantic) but personally I would prefer that on another CD and keep the "album" as intended. Remember it will also be bought as a download so those unknowing youngsters may think all those b-sides were part of the "album". Maybe I am just old school but I would want to protect the integrity of the "album" Prince created biggrin The other thing people need to recognise is that, as Billy Sparks said, "this is a bidness mother fucker" [sic] and WB don't want to blow all their exploitable assets in one go. They can milk the Vault for years to come and can even milk PR further with the ultimate super duper deluxe edition with the 2 track demo version of the solo bass track intended for When Doves Cry included (I am joking but you see the point...record companies are still exploiting the Beatles recordings years later by releasing ever more obscure versions of known songs etc).

BINGO! nod

Phsyical format will be a niche in 5 years. This is now or never.

Reply #569 posted 04/25/17 12:19am

embmmusic

tmcjb said:

eyewishuheaven said:


Once again, it should be said that WB said "two albums of unreleased material". At 76 minutes, if you buy the vinyl version, that's exactly what you're gonna get. Sneaky wording, true, but not necessarily a bald-faced lie.

This begs the question, will there be a vinyl release of the unreleased tracks? Normally for these deluxe two-or-more disc deals they only release the first disc. I'd be surprised if they release more than just Purple Rain remastered on vinyl...I'll probably end up buying both the boxset and the vinyl. razz

A recent example of this is the remastered version of Boys For Pele by Tori Amos. The CD contained a whole bunch of additional tracks that the vinyl didn't have. The download card that came with the vinyl also only included the album tracks.

Reply #570 posted 04/25/17 12:55am

bluegangsta

A recording time line of inclusion and notable un-inclusions.

1983 XXX XX: 17 Days
- Unreleased extended version known to exist.
1983 XXX XX: G-Spot
- Replace Darling Nikki in the movie.
- Later re-recorded for Jill Jones
1983 May 24: Possessed
- Re-recorded into the leaked version on 17 March 1984
1983 Apr 19: Velvet Kitty Cat
- Intended for The Time’s Ice Cream Castles
- Full version leaked.
1983 Early XX: Wonderful Ass
- Snippet of this version has leaked.
- Updated by Wendy & Lisa in 1986
1983 Aug XX: Darling Nikki (NOT INCLUDED)
- Longer version leaked
1983 Aug 03: I Would Die 4 U
- Longer version leaked.
1983 Aug 03: Baby I’m A Star
- Longer version leaked.
- Demo recorded in 81/ 82 leaked
1983 Aug 15: Computer Blue
- Recorded live 3 August 1983
- Recorded at St Louis Park August 1983 has leaked
1983 Sep 15: Irresistible Bitch (NOT INCLUDED)
- B-Side to Let’s Pretend We’re Married
- Longer version known to exist
1983 Sep XX: The Beautiful Ones
- Longer version leaked.
1983 Sep XX: Purple Rain
- Recorded Live on 3 Aug 1983
- Longer version leaked.
1983 Sep XX: Electric Intercourse
- Recorded live in Aug
1983 Oct XX: Let’s Go Crazy
- Recorded live 3 August 1983
1983 Oct 24: Wednesday (NOT INCLUDED)
- Version recorded with Jill Jones later.
- Placed on early configuration of Purple Rain
1983 Oct 29: Father’s Song
- Described as having very heavy synths.
1983 Nov XX: Katrina’s Paper Dolls (worked on as early as October)
- 4 Version of this song are known to exist.
1983 Dec 30: She's Always In My Hair (NOT INCLUDED)
- Reorded the same day as the basic tracks of Erotic City.
1983 Dec 31: We Can Fuck
- Later rerecorded into We Can Funk on Graffiti Bridge.
- Snippet of this version has leaked.
1984 Jan 27: Take Me With U
- Longer version has leaked.
1984 Feb 7: God (Love Theme From Purple Rain)
1984 Feb 18: Another Lonely Christmas
1984 Feb 27: Love & Sex
- Snippet leaked.
1984 Feb 27: Traffic Jam (NOT INCLUDED)
- 2 versions leaked, one incomplete.
1984 Mar 01: When Doves Cry
- Version with bassline known to exist.
1984 Apr XX: Erotic City
- Originally recorded on 20 Dec 1983.
- Several alternate mixes are know to exist and have leaked.
1984 Jun 25: Purple Rain album is released.

1984 Aug 17 : The Dance Electric
- Rerecorded and released by Andre Cymone in 1985
1984 Aug 24 : God
1984 Sep 29: Our Destiny/ Roadhouse Garden
- Recorded live on 7 June 1984
1986 Jul XX: All Day All Night (NOT INCLUDED)
- Recorded live on 7 June 1984

[Edited 4/25/17 15:52pm]

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #571 posted 04/25/17 1:36am

smokeverbs

Now this would be a right collection
Keep your headphones on.
Reply #572 posted 04/25/17 2:44am

MiceElfAgin

bluegangsta said:

A recording time line of inclusion and notable un-inclusions.
1983 XXX XX: 17 Days
- Unreleased extended version known to exist.
1983 May 24: Possessed
- Re-recorded into the leaked version on 17 March 1984
1983 Apr 19: Velvet Kitty Cat
- Intended for The Time’s Ice Cream Castles
1983 Early XX: Wonderful Ass
- Snippet of this version has leaked.
- Updated by Wendy & Lisa in 1986
1983 Aug XX: Darling Nikki
- Longer version leaked
1983 Aug 03: I Would Die 4 U
- Longer version leaked.
1983 Aug 03: Baby I’m A Star
- Longer version leaked.
- Demo recorded in 81/ 82 leaked
1983 Aug 15: Computer Blue
- Recorded live 3 August 1983
- Recorded at St Louis Park August 1983 has leaked
1983 Sep 15: Irresistible Bitch (NOT INCLUDED)
- B-Side to Let’s Pretend We’re Married
- Longer version known to exist
1983 Sep XX: The Beautiful Ones
- Longer version leaked.
1983 Sep XX: Purple Rain
- Recorded Live on 3 Aug 1983
- Longer version leaked.
1983 Sep XX: Electric Intercourse
- Recorded live in Aug
1983 Oct XX: Let’s Go Crazy
- Recorded live 3 August 1983
1983 Oct 24: Wednesday (NOT INCLUDED)
- Version recorded with Jill Jones later.
- Placed on early configuration of Purple Rain
1983 Oct 29: Father’s Song
- Described as having very heavy synths.
1983 Nov XX: Katrina’s Paper Dolls (worked on as early as October)
- 4 Version of this song are known to exist.
1983 Dec 31: We Can Fuck
- Later rerecorded into We Can Funk on Graffiti Bridge.
- Snippet of this version has leaked.
1984 Jan 27: Take Me With U
- Longer version has leaked.
1984 Feb 7: God (Love Theme From Purple Rain)
1984 Feb 18: Another Lonely Christmas
1984 Feb 27: Love & Sex
- Snippet leaked.
1984 Feb 27: Traffic Jam (NOT INCLUDED)
- 2 versions leaked, one incomplete.
1984 Mar 01: When Doves Cry
- Version with bassline known to exist.
1984 Apr XX: Erotic City
- Originally recorded on 20 Dec 1983.
- Several alternate mixes are know to exist and have leaked.
1984 Jun 25: Purple Rain album is released.
1984 Aug 17 : The Dance Electric
- Rerecorded and released by Andre Cymone in 1985
1984 Aug 24 : God
1984 Sep 29: Our Destiny/ Roadhouse Garden
- Recorded live on 7 June 1984
1986 Jul XX: All Day All Night (NOT INCLUDED)
- Recorded live on 7 June 1984

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Thanks for this, but don't forget these are only the songs we know of. There must be a lot more from the same period and as others have already pointed out, Warners surely doesn't want to put everything out right now. They know there's enough material in there to be exploited for decades – and at this stage there could be technical issues with some of the stuff too.
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Paisley's vault is not even catalogued yet, let alone starting the monumental task of digitising all the tapes and making decisions whether an already existing mix is good enough (either technically or artistically) for release or they'll have to go back to the multitracks and mix it again. They might want to do that with 'Wednesday', for example. They might simply hold it back for a later, far more comprehensive set. We don't know why they left it off the deluxe reissue.

Reply #573 posted 04/25/17 3:18am

love2thenines2003

Sifi said:

 



Romeoblu said:


How do we know sifi is legit?

 


All I can say is that I will share info that is confirmed within circles close to this project. 


It's OK to be suspicious, I will not force anyone to believe me, nor will I go into back-an-forths about the validity about my posts. I happen to be in a position to share info, which seems useful, based on the comments I have seen so far. Many opinions seem to be based on rumour. I will continue to post info when possible. 



@SIFI

Do u know when the Press release from WB with all the details is coming out? Thanks in advance
Reply #574 posted 04/25/17 5:24am

Graycap23

Dandroppedadime said:

I'm actually happy the full length original versions of the purple rain album are NOT included, as it allows for a future release where we can appreciate and digest the material while not taking away from the original 'edits' album (rightly released first). Also the bonus disk can feature the associates material including Wednesday, modernaire, plus the time and A6 material.

U actually believe that this makes reasonable sense?

Facts don't give a funk about your opinion.
Reply #575 posted 04/25/17 5:46am

BartVanHemelen

databank said:

The bad

- Why announce 2 CD's then give only one? This is WB doing exactly what fans blamed Prince for doing all these years: misleading info and promises that lead nowhere... Bad business!

.

So far this still is not official. Also, if the second concert movie is the August 1983 show, then that would be the second disc of unreleased music.

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- Technically, the original version of 4 The Time In Your Eyes was released before ATWIAD, therefore during the PR era, so it should have been included here. My guess is WB felt it belongs more on a potential ATWIAD remaster, though.

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Pointless speculation. Also: the studio version might not be "licensable", because it might belong to USA 4 Africa (or whatever the org is called).

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- Audio versions of the 4 live music videos (Baby, TMWU + 2 edits of IWD4U), as well as the AMA PR and the Grammy Baby I'm A Star TV performances should have been included. Hopefully WB will have the sense to include all of those in video format on one of the 2 DVD's alongside the other PR promo videos.

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Don't get your hopes up. Also: obtaining the rights to these performances might be hard/costly. This is Warners' first trip to Prince re-issue land and considering the insecurity surrounding the music rights of the catalog they likely have looked for something that could have a positive ROI.

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Let's not forget: Prince never even bothered with this, even when it was part of a deal he closed with Warners.

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This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
Reply #576 posted 04/25/17 5:49am

BartVanHemelen

jaypotton said:

Bart almost always comes at the Org from a position of self believed superiority and an assumption that 99% of people here are purple koolade drinking wackos with no basic understanding of business or common sense!

.

Oh look, projection.

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This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
Reply #577 posted 04/25/17 5:54am

BartVanHemelen

embmmusic said:

tmcjb said:

This begs the question, will there be a vinyl release of the unreleased tracks? Normally for these deluxe two-or-more disc deals they only release the first disc. I'd be surprised if they release more than just Purple Rain remastered on vinyl...I'll probably end up buying both the boxset and the vinyl. razz

A recent example of this is the remastered version of Boys For Pele by Tori Amos. The CD contained a whole bunch of additional tracks that the vinyl didn't have. The download card that came with the vinyl also only included the album tracks.

.

The 20th anniversary of Garbage's debut was a mere 2CDs, but the download was much larger: http://www.superdeluxeedi...y-reissue/ . And Macca's Flowers In The Dirt deluxe is an insult to his fans.

© Bart Van Hemelen
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
Reply #578 posted 04/25/17 5:56am

MiceElfAgin

jaypotton said:


christobole said:

Bart is right, I actually look forward to his well-reasoned and educated posts, while I skip many other posters' uninformed and naive rubbish.

Actually generally I like reading Bart's posts and have done for nearly 20 years! A lot of people challenge the style of his posts because they often come across as aggressive and pompous. Bart almost always comes at the Org from a position of self believed superiority and an assumption that 99% of people here are purple koolade drinking wackos with no basic understanding of business or common sense!

.

What an outrageous assumption! In reality, it's only 95%. smile

Reply #579 posted 04/25/17 9:55am

bonatoc

FunkOnTheOne said:

Also, is the original Purple Rain really that bad sounding?


On CD? Big, big time.
I just hope they didn't turn the compressor up to 11.

Africa, Cap'n Crunch, Norma Jean, Sex and Cheerio's
Play my record double speed, feel the climax fit 4 a king
Reply #580 posted 04/25/17 9:57am

LeeChristmas

So still no preorder, no offficial tracklist...what a joke, clearly Warner Bros. don't want to sell this thing.

Lurking since '07
Reply #581 posted 04/25/17 9:58am

MiceElfAgin

bonatoc said:

FunkOnTheOne said:

Also, is the original Purple Rain really that bad sounding?


On CD? Big, big time.
I just hope they didn't turn the compressor up to 11.

.

Nah, they'll just brickwall it. smile

[Edited 4/25/17 10:44am]

Reply #582 posted 04/25/17 10:26am

purpleprime

has anyone else noticed that it say's "Disc 1:Purple Rain (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)".......but it say's nothing about the other 2 discs being remastered.....I bet ya there just mastered and louder just like "Ultimate Prince" .....

Reply #583 posted 04/25/17 10:27am

bonatoc

jjam said:

Well the audio for the package has been remastered by Bernie Grundman from the masters, who did the original release - which bodes well...

http://blog.thecurrent.or...ecordings/

[Edited 4/19/17 17:06pm]

[Edited 4/19/17 17:06pm]


That sold it to me on the spot.
Finally, Bernie tweaking the knobs again! I coud be wrong, but I don't think he's the type to sell his ass to the Loudness Wars. But WB executive have their words, so who knows. I hope everyone in the building has come to the conclusion that radio doesn't exist anymore. Or at least that this is not millenials radio material.

Susan Rogers liking it is also good news.

Africa, Cap'n Crunch, Norma Jean, Sex and Cheerio's
Play my record double speed, feel the climax fit 4 a king
Reply #584 posted 04/25/17 11:05am

jjam

purpleprime said:

has anyone else noticed that it say's "Disc 1:Purple Rain (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)".......but it say's nothing about the other 2 discs being remastered.....I bet ya there just mastered and louder just like "Ultimate Prince" .....

The The Current blog states that all audio has been mastered/remastered.

Reply #585 posted 04/25/17 11:15am

jaypotton

BartVanHemelen said:

 



jaypotton said:


Bart almost always comes at the Org from a position of self believed superiority and an assumption that 99% of people here are purple koolade drinking wackos with no basic understanding of business or common sense!  

.


Oh look, projection.



Ha ha ha come on Bart tell me you don't...go on tell me that is not your default position?
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #586 posted 04/25/17 11:17am

purpleprime

jjam said:

purpleprime said:

has anyone else noticed that it say's "Disc 1:Purple Rain (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)".......but it say's nothing about the other 2 discs being remastered.....I bet ya there just mastered and louder just like "Ultimate Prince" .....

The The Current blog states that all audio has been mastered/remastered.

ok thanks jjam....phew

Reply #587 posted 04/25/17 11:27am

jaypotton

MiceElfAgin said:

Thanks for this, but don't forget these are only the songs we know of. There must be a lot more from the same period and as others have already pointed out, Warners surely doesn't want to put everything out right now. They know there's enough material in there to be exploited for decades – and at this stage there could be technical issues with some of the stuff too.


Ooh careful...I got BARTED earlier in this thread for making such an assumption
lol

Still waiting on my apology from him. Do you think I will be waiting for a long time lol
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #588 posted 04/25/17 11:58am

christobole

MiceElfAgin said:

jaypotton said:


Actually generally I like reading Bart's posts and have done for nearly 20 years! A lot of people challenge the style of his posts because they often come across as aggressive and pompous. Bart almost always comes at the Org from a position of self believed superiority and an assumption that 99% of people here are purple koolade drinking wackos with no basic understanding of business or common sense!

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What an outrageous assumption! In reality, it's only 95%. smile

In fact, I don't quite understand why Bart bothers to visit this forum at all, often correcting all the mis-information on here and enduring insults. Of course, I'm glad he still does.

Reply #589 posted 04/25/17 12:13pm

purpleprime

christobole said:

MiceElfAgin said:

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What an outrageous assumption! In reality, it's only 95%. smile

In fact, I don't quite understand why Bart bothers to visit this forum at all, often correcting all the mis-information on here and enduring insults. Of course, I'm glad he still does.

nod me too....sometimes I just wish the org had a "like" button...if only for bart's comments....however I do try not to interact, reply to his comments, i.e directly speak to him ....as I do not want a brick ...he can be rather scary.... lol

Reply #590 posted 04/25/17 12:38pm

bonatoc

mrmaxwell said:

bluegangsta said:

The Capitol show definitly was -see the video for IWD4U/ BIAS.

Do you mean shot on film or pro shot? Do we know the entire show was filmed?


Also, isn't there a pro shot video of "Take Me With U" that is not from Syracuse?

Africa, Cap'n Crunch, Norma Jean, Sex and Cheerio's
Play my record double speed, feel the climax fit 4 a king
Reply #591 posted 04/25/17 12:54pm

jjam

It's a live video but not from Syracuse as you say, as I seem to recall.

Reply #592 posted 04/25/17 1:19pm

bonatoc

dadeepop said:

TheEnglishGent said:


When you make a post, there's a little icon that looks like a tree. Click on that and you get a pop up into which you can paste your image link. Paste in the image link then click insert and you're done.




It's a purple miracle! I thought I had tried that. Thanks! Now, what were we all talking about? lol



This :



...but as always with these kind of boxes, there's a good half that you won't eat
because they're not of your taste.



Africa, Cap'n Crunch, Norma Jean, Sex and Cheerio's
Play my record double speed, feel the climax fit 4 a king
Reply #593 posted 04/25/17 1:34pm

OnlyNDaUsa

bonatoc said:

mrmaxwell said:

Do you mean shot on film or pro shot? Do we know the entire show was filmed?


Also, isn't there a pro shot video of "Take Me With U" that is not from Syracuse?

no it was filmed at one of the Houston shows...

With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #594 posted 04/25/17 1:55pm

dadeepop




It's a purple miracle! I thought I had tried that. Thanks! Now, what were we all talking about?  lol





This : 



...but as always with these kind of boxes, there's a good half that you won't eat
because they're not of your taste.






Haha well played!
"The password is what."
Reply #595 posted 04/25/17 1:59pm

IstenSzek

dadeepop said:




It's a purple miracle! I thought I had tried that. Thanks! Now, what were we all talking about? lol



This :



...but as always with these kind of boxes, there's a good half that you won't eat
because they're not of your taste.



Haha well played!


i always start out like 'urgh, those are horrible, why are those even in here? who eats those?'

and two days later, when the good ones are gone and there's no other chocolate in the house
i'm like 'meh, these are not so bad, i'll have some of these'

third day, there's only wrappers left in the box lol

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #596 posted 04/25/17 8:02pm

Sifi

love2thenines2003 said:

Sifi said:

 



Romeoblu said:


How do we know sifi is legit?

 


All I can say is that I will share info that is confirmed within circles close to this project. 


It's OK to be suspicious, I will not force anyone to believe me, nor will I go into back-an-forths about the validity about my posts. I happen to be in a position to share info, which seems useful, based on the comments I have seen so far. Many opinions seem to be based on rumour. I will continue to post info when possible. 



@SIFI

Do u know when the Press release from WB with all the details is coming out? Thanks in advance


VERY soon, maybe today! But that's not a 100% guarantee, that's why I am hesitant to post this.
Reply #597 posted 04/25/17 9:44pm

NewpowerScarfo

Sifi said:

love2thenines2003 said:
@SIFI Do u know when the Press release from WB with all the details is coming out? Thanks in advance
VERY soon, maybe today! But that's not a 100% guarantee, that's why I am hesitant to post this.

Translation, you have no idea, just like the rest of us.

Reply #598 posted 04/25/17 10:09pm

jaawwnn

Sifi said:

love2thenines2003 said:
@SIFI Do u know when the Press release from WB with all the details is coming out? Thanks in advance
VERY soon, maybe today! But that's not a 100% guarantee, that's why I am hesitant to post this.

I'll take it.

If it turns out not to be the case so be it.

Reply #599 posted 04/25/17 10:35pm

mrmaxwell

purpleprime said:

has anyone else noticed that it say's "Disc 1:Purple Rain (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)".......but it say's nothing about the other 2 discs being remastered.....I bet ya there just mastered and louder just like "Ultimate Prince" .....

You can't remaster tracks that haven't been mastered a first time!!!

Cutting WB some slack (shock!) we have no idea what quality or state the vault tracks are in. With time against them who knows what tracks were in good enough condition to master and get to release status...perhaps they wanted other tracks but needed more time to restore.

Reply #600 posted 04/25/17 11:40pm

jaypotton

mrmaxwell said:

 



purpleprime said:


has anyone else noticed that it say's "Disc 1:Purple Rain (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)".....but it say's nothing about the other 2 discs being remastered.....I bet ya there just mastered and louder just like "Ultimate Prince" .....



 


You can't remaster tracks that haven't been mastered a first time!!!

Cutting WB some slack (shock!) we have no idea what quality or state the vault tracks are in. With time against them who knows what tracks were in good enough condition to master and get to release status...perhaps they wanted other tracks but needed more time to restore. 


 



This was actually a fear of mine (well fear might be the wrong word because it is not exactly life threatening and definitely a first world level of concern...ie nice problems to have)...

Some years back I remember reading about one of the Engineers (might have been HM Buff - hope I have that name right) saying that the vault was a bit of a mess and some of the analogue tapes were decaying (might have been a better technical term). He said something about them needing to be "baked" and I also think digitised otherwise the music on them would be lost.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #601 posted 04/26/17 12:15am

love2thenines2003

I noticed that a companion Audio Cd of DVD Syraruce (PR DELUXE) is due 4 release in the BOx too....so we can suspect that maybe more than 5 Cds/DVDs will be released...a packaging more important that we thought 1st > Remember the WB Press release back in february > 3 cds+2 DVDs !

I really Hope that all the Details from the different configurations of PR DELUXE coming up 2day with his Press Release!

@Sifi > Fell free 2 add details if u can...1000 thanx in advance...We appreciate ur input & comments here !!

smile

Reply #602 posted 04/26/17 12:26am

JudasLChrist

love2thenines2003 said:

I noticed that a companion Audio Cd of DVD Syraruce (PR DELUXE) is due 4 release in the BOx too....so we can suspect that maybe more than 5 Cds/DVDs will be released...a packaging more important that we thought 1st > Remember the WB Press release back in february > 3 cds+2 DVDs !


 


I really Hope that all the Details from the different configurations of PR DELUXE coming up 2day with his Press Release!


 


@Sifi > Fell free 2 add details if u can...1000 thanx in advance...We appreciate ur input & comments here !!


 


smile




Where did you hear that an audio disk of Syracuse was going to be included. Incidentally, I was at Guitar Center a few weeks ago, and they were selling audio CDs of the Syracuse show. I totally raised my eyebrow at it, it wasn't Warner Bros. or any recognizable label.
Reply #603 posted 04/26/17 12:34am

love2thenines2003

JudasLChrist said:

love2thenines2003 said:

I noticed that a companion Audio Cd of DVD Syraruce (PR DELUXE) is due 4 release in the BOx too....so we can suspect that maybe more than 5 Cds/DVDs will be released...a packaging more important that we thought 1st > Remember the WB Press release back in february > 3 cds+2 DVDs !

I really Hope that all the Details from the different configurations of PR DELUXE coming up 2day with his Press Release!

@Sifi > Fell free 2 add details if u can...1000 thanx in advance...We appreciate ur input & comments here !!

smile

Where did you hear that an audio disk of Syracuse was going to be included. Incidentally, I was at Guitar Center a few weeks ago, and they were selling audio CDs of the Syracuse show. I totally raised my eyebrow at it, it wasn't Warner Bros. or any recognizable label.

http://blog.thecurrent.or...ecordings/

"The tracks have been carefully transferred from the stereo masters at Paisley Park, and mastered by Bernie Grundman — the mastering engineer who worked on the original album. The reissue will also include a concert film recorded in Syracuse on March 30, 1985, with audio remastered by Grundman. Here’s the track list for the audio discs. The set was originally announced with a June 9 release date, but that may be pushed back a couple of weeks."

PS>Maybe i understood wrong?

Reply #604 posted 04/26/17 12:36am

JudasLChrist

love2thenines2003 said:

 



JudasLChrist said:


love2thenines2003 said:

I noticed that a companion Audio Cd of DVD Syraruce (PR DELUXE) is due 4 release in the BOx too....so we can suspect that maybe more than 5 Cds/DVDs will be released...a packaging more important that we thought 1st > Remember the WB Press release back in february > 3 cds+2 DVDs !


 


I really Hope that all the Details from the different configurations of PR DELUXE coming up 2day with his Press Release!


 


@Sifi > Fell free 2 add details if u can...1000 thanx in advance...We appreciate ur input & comments here !!


 


smile



Where did you hear that an audio disk of Syracuse was going to be included. Incidentally, I was at Guitar Center a few weeks ago, and they were selling audio CDs of the Syracuse show. I totally raised my eyebrow at it, it wasn't Warner Bros. or any recognizable label.

 


 


 


http://blog.thecurrent.org/2017/04/purple-rain-deluxe-edition-tracklist-revealed-including-never-before-heard-recordings/


"The tracks have been carefully transferred from the stereo masters at Paisley Park, and mastered by Bernie Grundman — the mastering engineer who worked on the original album. The reissue will also include a concert film recorded in Syracuse on March 30, 1985, with audio remastered by Grundman. Here’s the track list for the audio discs. The set was originally announced with a June 9 release date, but that may be pushed back a couple of weeks."


 


 


PS>Maybe i understood wrong?


 


 



Yeah, I believe that's an announcement about the DVD.
Reply #605 posted 04/26/17 12:43am

TheEnglishGent

love2thenines2003 said:

JudasLChrist said:

love2thenines2003 said: Where did you hear that an audio disk of Syracuse was going to be included. Incidentally, I was at Guitar Center a few weeks ago, and they were selling audio CDs of the Syracuse show. I totally raised my eyebrow at it, it wasn't Warner Bros. or any recognizable label.

http://blog.thecurrent.or...ecordings/

"The tracks have been carefully transferred from the stereo masters at Paisley Park, and mastered by Bernie Grundman — the mastering engineer who worked on the original album. The reissue will also include a concert film recorded in Syracuse on March 30, 1985, with audio remastered by Grundman. Here’s the track list for the audio discs. The set was originally announced with a June 9 release date, but that may be pushed back a couple of weeks."

PS>Maybe i understood wrong?

That post has been around as long as Militant's one here. It's not any more official than any other info we have.

RIP sad
Reply #606 posted 04/26/17 12:45am

MiceElfAgin

mrmaxwell said:

purpleprime said:

has anyone else noticed that it say's "Disc 1:Purple Rain (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)".......but it say's nothing about the other 2 discs being remastered.....I bet ya there just mastered and louder just like "Ultimate Prince" .....

You can't remaster tracks that haven't been mastered a first time!!!

.

Well, yes, you can.

There are so many misunderstandings and false ideas about the term 'mastering' in people's minds, even within the music industry, it's unbelievable. (If you all want, I can put together a detailed explanation for the forum, but I'm not sure how many would read it.)

'Mastering' is a very broad term used in music production, potentially it covers a lot of different technical processes – and I'm saying "potentially" because a lot of times there really isn't too much done to a certain recording after it has been mixed.

Also, the meaning of 'mastering' has changed a lot over time: mastering for a vinyl record in the 60's meant very different processes to what it means today, when mastering something for the iTunes store, for example.

As I've mentioned in a more detailed post about this a few months ago, the term 'master tape' or 'master recording' can also mean entirely different things – and let's not even talk about the process called 'glass mastering' which is also something often confused with 'mastering' – so sometimes when people talk about 'mastering' it's important to clarify which part of the production process we're referring to.

Sometimes a recording is simply mixed and the producer decides that the resulting 2-track ('mixdown') tape will require no further processes, so it's declared to be the 'master'. (I'm fairly certain that most of Prince's unreleased 'masters' are at this stage, as they have not been sent to a mastering engineer to do further work on them, there was no need to, since most of them have never become part of a planned release.) When such a 'master' is pulled out of the vault and becomes part of a new release, it is common to work on it a bit more to make it sound like the rest of the release (in terms of EQ and levels, for example), therefore it is 'remastered', even though it hasn't been 'mastered' before.

Reply #607 posted 04/26/17 3:19am

james

Just seen this track list!

Disk 2 sucks a bit.

Disk 3... worrying that Roadhouse Garden is on this. Isn't there a full album that could be released later?

As has been said, it would have been nicer to have the longer mixes and the associated artist tracks!

Reply #608 posted 04/26/17 3:45am

TheEnglishGent

james said:

Just seen this track list!

Disk 2 sucks a bit.

Disk 3... worrying that Roadhouse Garden is on this. Isn't there a full album that could be released later?

As has been said, it would have been nicer to have the longer mixes and the associated artist tracks!

At this point nothing is official yet.

RIP sad
Reply #609 posted 04/26/17 4:22am

mrmaxwell

MiceElfAgin said:

mrmaxwell said:

You can't remaster tracks that haven't been mastered a first time!!!

.

Well, yes, you can....

Sometimes a recording is simply mixed and the producer decides that the resulting 2-track ('mixdown') tape will require no further processes, so it's declared to be the 'master'. (I'm fairly certain that most of Prince's unreleased 'masters' are at this stage, as they have not been sent to a mastering engineer to do further work on them, there was no need to, since most of them have never become part of a planned release.) When such a 'master' is pulled out of the vault and becomes part of a new release, it is common to work on it a bit more to make it sound like the rest of the release (in terms of EQ and levels, for example), therefore it is 'remastered', even though it hasn't been 'mastered' before.

Susan Rogers has advised most of the unreleased tracks she engineered with Prince ended up as 2-track mixdowns and many were one or two takes only. I wouldn't call these masters in the completeness sense but as you note anyone can call any recording anything they want if they so wish. A relative quote from Susan;

"When we'd mix, I'd just hit "record" on the 2-track and do it live. People have asked me about him being a perfectionist. He was not a perfectionist. There was nothing perfect about it. What he was was a virtuoso. He was that fluent on so many instruments that we could go super-fast. There was no perfection involved"

Reply #610 posted 04/26/17 4:51am

MiceElfAgin

mrmaxwell said:

MiceElfAgin said:

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Well, yes, you can....

Sometimes a recording is simply mixed and the producer decides that the resulting 2-track ('mixdown') tape will require no further processes, so it's declared to be the 'master'. (I'm fairly certain that most of Prince's unreleased 'masters' are at this stage, as they have not been sent to a mastering engineer to do further work on them, there was no need to, since most of them have never become part of a planned release.) When such a 'master' is pulled out of the vault and becomes part of a new release, it is common to work on it a bit more to make it sound like the rest of the release (in terms of EQ and levels, for example), therefore it is 'remastered', even though it hasn't been 'mastered' before.

Susan Rogers has advised most of the unreleased tracks she engineered with Prince ended up as 2-track mixdowns and many were one or two takes only. I wouldn't call these masters in the completeness sense but as you note anyone can call any recording anything they want if they so wish.

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They are masters too, because they are finished products of the recording and mixing process. I think one of the reasons there is so much misunderstanding around the term 'mastering' is that people assume every recording HAS to go through some extra, mysterious process after it has been mixed, but it is not the case.

I really feel I should write a long, detailed post about mastering... But in short: "mastering" is sometimes as simple as performing a fade-out or just adding ISRC to a track. Sometimes it's not needed at all, especially when the mixing engineer has already done a great job. And sometimes people apply a hundred different processes to a track "to make it sound better" (and call it 'mastering') – and sometimes it will sound better, sometimes they mess it up.

Just to be clear: what Susan meant on most mixdows being 1-2 takes only is that she was mixing live (playing back the 2" multitrack, riding the faders manually as opposed to using automation and recording it straight to 1/4") and usually she got it right in just 1 go (or in 2).

[Edited 4/26/17 4:59am]

Reply #611 posted 04/26/17 5:08am

MIRvmn

bluegangsta said:

A recording time line of inclusion and notable un-inclusions.
 


1983 XXX XX: 17 Days

-      Unreleased extended version known to exist.

1983 XXX XX: G-Spot
-      Replace Darling Nikki in the movie.
-      Later re-recorded for Jill Jones 

1983 May 24: Possessed

-      Re-recorded into the leaked version on 17 March 1984

1983 Apr 19: Velvet Kitty Cat

-      Intended for The Time’s Ice Cream Castles
-      Full version leaked. 

1983 Early XX: Wonderful Ass

-      Snippet of this version has leaked.

-      Updated by Wendy & Lisa in 1986

1983 Aug XX: Darling Nikki (NOT INCLUDED)

-      Longer version leaked

1983 Aug 03: I Would Die 4 U

-      Longer version leaked.

1983 Aug 03: Baby I’m A Star

-      Longer version leaked.

-      Demo recorded in 81/ 82 leaked

1983 Aug 15: Computer Blue

-      Recorded live 3 August 1983

-      Recorded at St Louis Park August 1983 has leaked

1983 Sep 15: Irresistible Bitch (NOT INCLUDED)

-      B-Side to Let’s Pretend We’re Married

-      Longer version known to exist

1983 Sep XX: The Beautiful Ones

-      Longer version leaked.

1983 Sep XX: Purple Rain

-      Recorded Live on 3 Aug 1983

-      Longer version leaked.

1983 Sep XX: Electric Intercourse

-      Recorded live in Aug

1983 Oct XX: Let’s Go Crazy

-      Recorded live 3 August 1983

1983 Oct 24: Wednesday (NOT INCLUDED)

-      Version recorded with Jill Jones later.

-      Placed on early configuration of Purple Rain

1983 Oct 29: Father’s Song

-      Described as having very heavy synths.

1983 Nov XX: Katrina’s Paper Dolls (worked on as early as October)

-      4 Version of this song are known to exist.
1983 Dec 30: She's Always In My Hair (NOT INCLUDED)
-      Reorded the same day as the basic tracks of Erotic City. 

1983 Dec 31: We Can Fuck

-      Later rerecorded into We Can Funk on Graffiti Bridge.

-      Snippet of this version has leaked.

1984 Jan 27: Take Me With U

-      Longer version has leaked.

1984 Feb 7: God (Love Theme From Purple Rain)

1984 Feb 18: Another Lonely Christmas

1984 Feb 27: Love & Sex

-      Snippet leaked.

1984 Feb 27: Traffic Jam (NOT INCLUDED)

-      2 versions leaked, one incomplete.

1984 Mar 01: When Doves Cry

- Version with bassline known to exist.

1984 Apr XX: Erotic City

-      Originally recorded on 20 Dec 1983.

-      Several alternate mixes are know to exist and have leaked.

1984 Jun 25: Purple Rain album is released.


1984 Aug 17 : The Dance Electric

-      Rerecorded and released by Andre Cymone in 1985

1984 Aug 24 : God 

1984 Sep 29: Our Destiny/ Roadhouse Garden

-      Recorded live on 7 June 1984

1986 Jul XX: All Day All Night (NOT INCLUDED)

-      Recorded live on 7 June 1984

[Edited 4/25/17 15:52pm]


There's a lot on that list which could have fit on a possible 4th disc. A 5th disc could have contained songs we never heard of.
Thunder, all through the night
Promise to see Jesus in the morning light
Take my hand, it'll be alright
C'mon save your soul tonight
Reply #612 posted 04/26/17 6:12am

udo

bonatoc said:

jjam said:

Well the audio for the package has been remastered by Bernie Grundman from the masters, who did the original release - which bodes well...

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That sold it to me on the spot.
Finally, Bernie tweaking the knobs again! I coud be wrong, but I don't think he's the type to sell his ass to the Loudness Wars.

(...)

Susan Rogers liking it is also good news.

.

Indeed, this helps a lot! nodnod

But how to explain the '2 albums of unreleased music' thing?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill
Reply #613 posted 04/26/17 6:47am

purpleprime

MiceElfAgin said:

mrmaxwell said:

Susan Rogers has advised most of the unreleased tracks she engineered with Prince ended up as 2-track mixdowns and many were one or two takes only. I wouldn't call these masters in the completeness sense but as you note anyone can call any recording anything they want if they so wish.

.
They are masters too, because they are finished products of the recording and mixing process. I think one of the reasons there is so much misunderstanding around the term 'mastering' is that people assume every recording HAS to go through some extra, mysterious process after it has been mixed, but it is not the case.

I really feel I should write a long, detailed post about mastering... But in short: "mastering" is sometimes as simple as performing a fade-out or just adding ISRC to a track. Sometimes it's not needed at all, especially when the mixing engineer has already done a great job. And sometimes people apply a hundred different processes to a track "to make it sound better" (and call it 'mastering') – and sometimes it will sound better, sometimes they mess it up.

Just to be clear: what Susan meant on most mixdows being 1-2 takes only is that she was mixing live (playing back the 2" multitrack, riding the faders manually as opposed to using automation and recording it straight to 1/4") and usually she got it right in just 1 go (or in 2).

[Edited 4/26/17 4:59am]

like Stevies "Songs In The Key Of Life" cd remaster...sound awfull, flat and highly compressed...really want the audio fidelity cd version....but it costs a fortune....

Reply #614 posted 04/26/17 7:19am

BartVanHemelen

purpleprime said:

has anyone else noticed that it say's "Disc 1:Purple Rain (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)".......but it say's nothing about the other 2 discs being remastered.....

.

Have you tried reading this thread first, which contains info WRT the mastering of those tracks? Or were you too busy posting an unfounded assumption?

© Bart Van Hemelen
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
Reply #615 posted 04/26/17 7:34am

purpleprime

BartVanHemelen said:

purpleprime said:

has anyone else noticed that it say's "Disc 1:Purple Rain (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)".......but it say's nothing about the other 2 discs being remastered.....

.

Have you tried reading this thread first, which contains info WRT the mastering of those tracks? Or were you too busy posting an unfounded assumption?

unfounded how?.....point me to were it say's those other tracks are remastered on the original text??......it quite clearly states "Disc 1:Purple Rain (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)"......and then just "Disc 2...with the list of song's...and Disc 3 with the list of song's....music companys do like doing things cheaply you know?....but im sure the EQ levels will be up for the other 2 disc's......and if it is done as good as the "Ultimate" compilation (which was not remastered..even tho it soundeed good).....ill be happy...ofcourse originally "Erotic City 12 inch" was meant to be on ultimate...so im sure thats the version we will have of that paticular song, to save them time...since they already have it in the can biggrin

[Edited 4/26/17 7:39am]

Reply #616 posted 04/26/17 8:07am

TheEnglishGent

purpleprime said:

BartVanHemelen said:

.

Have you tried reading this thread first, which contains info WRT the mastering of those tracks? Or were you too busy posting an unfounded assumption?

unfounded how?.....point me to were it say's those other tracks are remastered on the original text??......it quite clearly states "Disc 1:Purple Rain (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)"......and then just "Disc 2...with the list of song's...and Disc 3 with the list of song's....music companys do like doing things cheaply you know?....but im sure the EQ levels will be up for the other 2 disc's......and if it is done as good as the "Ultimate" compilation (which was not remastered..even tho it soundeed good).....ill be happy...ofcourse originally "Erotic City 12 inch" was meant to be on ultimate...so im sure thats the version we will have of that paticular song, to save them time...since they already have it in the can biggrin

[Edited 4/26/17 7:39am]


Please bear in mind that this isn't an official announcement. That list was put together by Militant based on information in a database of record releases. We need to wait for more official information regarding this release.


Militant's comment on this in the very first post of this thread :

Last night, I got a tip from an industry insider that Warner Bros had registered all the tracks for Purple Rain Deluxe. As a songwriter myself with registered works, I have access to these databases - after following the lead wediscovered the following registrations - all recently registered by Warners marked with a 2017 release date and with full ISRC codes (These codes are used to identify released works across platforms).

RIP sad
Reply #617 posted 04/26/17 9:30am

jaypotton

MiceElfAgin said:

 



mrmaxwell said:


 



MiceElfAgin said:


 


.


Well, yes, you can....

Sometimes a recording is simply mixed and the producer decides that the resulting 2-track ('mixdown') tape will require no further processes, so it's declared to be the 'master'. (I'm fairly certain that most of Prince's unreleased 'masters' are at this stage, as they have not been sent to a mastering engineer to do further work on them, there was no need to, since most of them have never become part of a planned release.) When such a 'master' is pulled out of the vault and becomes part of a new release, it is common to work on it a bit more to make it sound like the rest of the release (in terms of EQ and levels, for example), therefore it is 'remastered', even though it hasn't been 'mastered' before.



 


Susan Rogers has advised most of the unreleased tracks she engineered with Prince ended up as 2-track mixdowns and many were one or two takes only. I wouldn't call these masters in the completeness sense but as you note anyone can call any recording anything they want if they so wish. 


 



.
They are masters too, because they are finished products of the recording and mixing process. I think one of the reasons there is so much misunderstanding around the term 'mastering' is that people assume every recording HAS to go through some extra, mysterious process after it has been mixed, but it is not the case.

I really feel I should write a long, detailed post about mastering... But in short: "mastering" is sometimes as simple as performing a fade-out or just adding ISRC to a track. Sometimes it's not needed at all, especially when the mixing engineer has already done a great job. And sometimes people apply a hundred different processes to a track "to make it sound better" (and call it 'mastering') – and sometimes it will sound better, sometimes they mess it up.

Just to be clear: what Susan meant on most mixdows being 1-2 takes only is that she was mixing live (playing back the 2" multitrack, riding the faders manually as opposed to using automation and recording it straight to 1/4") and usually she got it right in just 1 go (or in 2). 


 

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Well I would read it. Would be fascinating.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #618 posted 04/26/17 9:52am

purpleprime

jaypotton said:

MiceElfAgin said:

Well I would read it. Would be fascinating.

I second that remark also.....the guy defintley knows his stuff....unlike some on here who think they do.....

Reply #619 posted 04/26/17 10:06am

mushmackalenta

Ok people are still talking as if this is gonna get released soon.

At what point are you going to all realise this ain't happening in June.

Does no one else think it's really weird nothing at all has been heard about the release since they gave out the initial details in February.
Reply #620 posted 04/26/17 10:11am

IstenSzek

mushmackalenta said:

Ok people are still talking as if this is gonna get released soon. At what point are you going to all realise this ain't happening in June. Does no one else think it's really weird nothing at all has been heard about the release since they gave out the initial details in February.


if it is postponed it would be nice of them to at least say *something* about it.
they obviously know about all the speculation and even asked militant to take
down the initial post due to use of copyrighted artwork.

if the set is pushed back, what's wrong with telling the fans?

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #621 posted 04/26/17 10:17am

purpleprime

IstenSzek said:

mushmackalenta said:

Ok people are still talking as if this is gonna get released soon. At what point are you going to all realise this ain't happening in June. Does no one else think it's really weird nothing at all has been heard about the release since they gave out the initial details in February.


if it is postponed it would be nice of them to at least say *something* about it.
they obviously know about all the speculation and even asked militant to take
down the initial post due to use of copyrighted artwork.

if the set is pushed back, what's wrong with telling the fans?

the set is most probably going to be pushed back after they have read all the negative comments on here, some peopel are just greedy.....i cant understand people moaning about the 2nd disc...those B-Sides especially are essential and we have never had them in high-quality and there moaning that they wanted another disc worth of unreleased material....yet they have 75 minutes worth on disc 3!!...we are bloody lucky to even get this after he left no will and the inner turmoil in the estate...I thought we would be waiting 10 years for even a sniff!!!....

Reply #622 posted 04/26/17 12:37pm

NewpowerScarfo

Still no pre order or an offical tracklist, and this thing is still scheduled for June? WB's silence has been deafening. The same silence we're gotten use to since 2014.

Reply #623 posted 04/26/17 12:45pm

dadeepop


i always start out like 'urgh, those are horrible, why are those even in here? who eats those?'

and two days later, when the good ones are gone and there's no other chocolate in the house
i'm like 'meh, these are not so bad, i'll have some of these'

third day, there's only wrappers left in the box lol

 


*****
I do the same exact thing. eek
"The password is what."
Reply #624 posted 04/26/17 1:58pm

SoulAlive

IstenSzek said:

mushmackalenta said:

Ok people are still talking as if this is gonna get released soon. At what point are you going to all realise this ain't happening in June. Does no one else think it's really weird nothing at all has been heard about the release since they gave out the initial details in February.


if it is postponed it would be nice of them to at least say *something* about it.
they obviously know about all the speculation and even asked militant to take
down the initial post due to use of copyrighted artwork.

if the set is pushed back, what's wrong with telling the fans?

I'm wondering why Warners are being so secretive about this release.What is their problem?! This set has the potential to be HUGE,but they're not doing anything to hype it up! They're not even bothering to put out a press release nuts If they somehow screw this up and decide NOT to release it,I'm gonna be pissed!!

Reply #625 posted 04/26/17 2:02pm

IstenSzek

dadeepop said:


i always start out like 'urgh, those are horrible, why are those even in here? who eats those?'

and two days later, when the good ones are gone and there's no other chocolate in the house
i'm like 'meh, these are not so bad, i'll have some of these'

third day, there's only wrappers left in the box lol

******************************************* I do the same exact thing. eek


and they know that. that's why they can afford to keep putting
those horrible ones in those boxes. they know we'll eat them up
eventually lol

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #626 posted 04/26/17 2:54pm

master

purpleprime said:

 



IstenSzek said:


 



mushmackalenta said:


Ok people are still talking as if this is gonna get released soon. At what point are you going to all realise this ain't happening in June. Does no one else think it's really weird nothing at all has been heard about the release since they gave out the initial details in February.


if it is postponed it would be nice of them to at least say *something* about it.
they obviously know about all the speculation and even asked militant to take
down the initial post due to use of copyrighted artwork. 

if the set is pushed back, what's wrong with telling the fans?  



 


the set is most probably going to be pushed back after they have read all the negative comments on here, some peopel are just greedy.....i cant understand people moaning about the 2nd disc...those B-Sides especially are essential and we have never had them in high-quality and there moaning that they wanted another disc worth of unreleased material....yet they have 75 minutes worth on disc 3!!...we are bloody lucky to even get this after he left no will and the inner turmoil in the estate...I thought we would be waiting 10 years for even a sniff!!!....


They have had a year to sort things out with estate over this release . Every time we have had a release by Warner's most people say this sucks but they will get the deluxe right. 2nd disc is boring .1st disc just purple rain again boring . Syracuse is average..After princes death They have released quite alot of rehash. And only given 12/13 tracks . If I was working for Warner's i would pat myself on back for getting so much mileage out of a few tracks . They had to remaster this release so do not let them fool you into thinking working hard. Easy option all the way.. This should have been the pinnacle of prince releases. I want Warner's or anyone to do well but give a descent release and do as promised.
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Reply #627 posted 04/26/17 3:39pm

bonatoc

For the lazy and curious ones :


Bernie Grundman is one of the most prominent names in Mastering world wide. He has been directly or indirectly, by his studio staff of engineers, behind hundreds of gold and platinum recordings. He has personally mastered some of the industry's landmark recordings, such as:
Carol King's "tapestry",
Steely Dan's "Aja",
Michael Jackson's "Thriller",
Prince's "Purple rain",
and Dr. Dre's "the Chronic".

In addition He has worked on albums by a veritable who's who of the music industry, such as:
The Carpenters,
Herb Alpert,
Sergio Mendes,
The Doors,
Joe Cocker,
Joni Mitchell,
Burt Backarach,
Jackson Brown,
Linda Ronstadt,
James Taylor,
Supertramp,
Procol Harum,
Rod Stewart,
Fleetwood Mac,
Janet Jackson,
Quincy Jones,
Outkast,
Ludicrous,
Mos Def,
Mary J. Blidge,
Lucinda Williams,
Jack Johnson & Macy Gray.


Born in Minneapolis, ... ( eek )



Suffice to say, this shit has a high risk of sounding awesome
(sure hope par to the original german WEA vinyls).

The blabber above about mastering being a facultative process is NONSENSE.
Even jazz records or classical music records go through mastering, especially in the analog era, where it was very ill-advised to have your needles go in the red, or below a certain dB level, for the master acetate. Like you wouldn't show a movie's final edit directly in a theater, EVERY commercialized record goes through a mastering process. The only case where it doesn't is if it's for your mama.

Mastering is not just mere preparation for mass replication of the record. It is also the last chance of putting the final mix into some fresh, expert third-party ears. The mastering engineer applies some surgical audio adjustments and subtle embellishments with state-of-the-art EQs, compressors, limiters, enhancers, spatializers. Mastering engineers of the level of Mr. Grundman are a very, very rare breed.


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Africa, Cap'n Crunch, Norma Jean, Sex and Cheerio's
Play my record double speed, feel the climax fit 4 a king
Reply #628 posted 04/26/17 3:52pm

bluegangsta

bonatoc said:

For the lazy and curious ones :


Bernie Grundman is one of the most prominent names in Mastering world wide. He has been directly or indirectly, by his studio staff of engineers, behind hundreds of gold and platinum recordings. He has personally mastered some of the industry's landmark recordings, such as:
Carol King's "tapestry",
Steely Dan's "Aja",
Michael Jackson's "Thriller",
Prince's "Purple rain",
and Dr. Dre's "the Chronic".

In addition He has worked on albums by a veritable who's who of the music industry, such as:
The Carpenters,
Herb Alpert,
Sergio Mendes,
The Doors,
Joe Cocker,
Joni Mitchell,
Burt Backarach,
Jackson Brown,
Linda Ronstadt,
James Taylor,
Supertramp,
Procol Harum,
Rod Stewart,
Fleetwood Mac,
Janet Jackson,
Quincy Jones,
Outkast,
Ludicrous,
Mos Def,
Mary J. Blidge,
Lucinda Williams,
Jack Johnson & Macy Gray.


Born in Minneapolis, ... ( eek )

Suffice to say, this shit has a high risk of sounding awesome
(sure hope par to the original german WEA vinyls).

Nonsense. Bernie Grundman adhears to industry standards and requests like most mastering engineers do. Take a listen to MJ's Invincible album and tell me that Grundman is a 100% hitter.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #629 posted 04/26/17 3:58pm

bonatoc

bluegangsta said:

bonatoc said:

For the lazy and curious ones :


Bernie Grundman is one of the most prominent names in Mastering world wide. He has been directly or indirectly, by his studio staff of engineers, behind hundreds of gold and platinum recordings. He has personally mastered some of the industry's landmark recordings, such as:
Carol King's "tapestry",
Steely Dan's "Aja",
Michael Jackson's "Thriller",
Prince's "Purple rain",
and Dr. Dre's "the Chronic".

Nonsense. Bernie Grundman adhears to industry standards and requests like most mastering engineers do. Take a listen to MJ's Invincible album and tell me that Grundman is a 100% hitter.


Now you're playing the naysayer just to get all eyes on you.
We get it, you're against the whole project, you made your statement through pages and pages.
And now you're just embarassing yourself. The man also got to eat. Sure he's gonna work on some horseshit from time to time.

He's a legend, and guys like Bob Ludwig and him practically wrote the whole book for the industry, and therefore the "standards" you're referring to. Do you happen to have any experience in high-end professional studios ? If not, save it.

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Africa, Cap'n Crunch, Norma Jean, Sex and Cheerio's
Play my record double speed, feel the climax fit 4 a king
Reply #630 posted 04/26/17 4:05pm

bluegangsta

bonatoc said:

bluegangsta said:

Nonsense. Bernie Grundman adhears to industry standards and requests like most mastering engineers do. Take a listen to MJ's Invincible album and tell me that Grundman is a 100% hitter.


Now you're playing the naysayer just to get all eyes on you.
We get it, you're against the whole project, you made your statement through pages and pages.
And now you're just embarassing yourself. The man also got to eat. Sure he's gonna work on some horseshit from time to time.

He's a legend, and guys like Bob Ludwig and him practically wrote the whole book for the industry, and therefore the "standards" you're referring to. Do you happen to have any experience in high-end professional studios ? If not, save it.

You've essentially made that same point I did. He will do the best of what he's told. Simple.

And I'm not against the project. Pathetic ad-hominem argument, as usual.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #631 posted 04/26/17 4:25pm

bonatoc

bluegangsta said:

bonatoc said:


Now you're playing the naysayer just to get all eyes on you.
We get it, you're against the whole project, you made your statement through pages and pages.
And now you're just embarassing yourself. The man also got to eat. Sure he's gonna work on some horseshit from time to time.

He's a legend, and guys like Bob Ludwig and him practically wrote the whole book for the industry, and therefore the "standards" you're referring to. Do you happen to have any experience in high-end professional studios ? If not, save it.

You've essentially made that same point I did. He will do the best of what he's told. Simple.

And I'm not against the project. Pathetic ad-hominem argument, as usual.


Again, no. The man is following his own judgment. The final mix is delivered to him as it is, there's nothing he can do to change it. I can guarantee you that, from this step on, he takes over, and relies on his judgment only to give the best final product possible, matching the initial artistic view.

Again, he's given a final product. They don't need to tell him what to do. They wouldn't get what he's doing anyway. Now of course some schmuck of a producer is going to ask your average mastering studio to turn it up to 11. But consider that MJ's Invicible already came in the studio über-compressed. And this is Sony, and this is MJ, high as a kite by then, so please don't compare apples and oranges.

If "Human Nature" sounds so awesome, you owe it in large parts to this man.

As for the pathetic part, hey, it's me, your usual purple know-it-all little despot.



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Africa, Cap'n Crunch, Norma Jean, Sex and Cheerio's
Play my record double speed, feel the climax fit 4 a king
Reply #632 posted 04/27/17 2:01am

MiceElfAgin

bonatoc said:

The blabber above about mastering being a facultative process is NONSENSE.
Even jazz records or classical music records go through mastering, especially in the analog era, where it was very ill-advised to have your needles go in the red, or below a certain dB level, for the master acetate. Like you wouldn't show a movie's final edit directly in a theater, EVERY commercialized record goes through a mastering process. The only case where it doesn't is if it's for your mama.

Mastering is not just mere preparation for mass replication of the record. It is also the last chance of putting the final mix into some fresh, expert third-party ears. The mastering engineer applies some surgical audio adjustments and subtle embellishments with state-of-the-art EQs, compressors, limiters, enhancers, spatializers. Mastering engineers of the level of Mr. Grundman are a very, very rare breed.

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Thanks for this as it reassures me that sitting down to write a long, detailed post about mastering in this forum is needed indeed, and I will try to do that later today when I have the time.
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It's funny how you refer to my post as 'blabber', then proceed to write up this text-book blabber about the importance of mastering (that, being a sound engineer for several decades, I never denied.) smile
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Indeed, there is a great deal of confusion and misunderstanding about the different purposes and often, false expectations about mastering and I will attempt to clear these up later.

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As mentioned in my previous post, sometimes [the process most often referred to as] mastering is not needed at all, especially when the mixing engineer has done a great job. That's what I said, not that it is a "facultative process".

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Of course, when you are talking about big budget pop releases, using a big brand mastering house is inevitable for the majors. If you're Ed Sheeran, you can even spend an extra 100K on polishing your turd, if you want to. That does not mean that there aren't many releases out there that didn't go through any EQs, compressors, limiters, enhancers, spatializers after they were mixed. (They will go through a horrible bunch of extra processes as soon as they are played on the radio anyway.)

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I have to go now, but just one more thing: how often do you think Prince has sent off his finished mixes during his later years to a mastering engineer (or employ an extra engineer at Paisley specifically for mastering) before releasing stuff?
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tbc


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Reply #633 posted 04/27/17 3:06am

bonatoc

Fair enough, and sorry about the "blabber". But I read your post like you were mixing "master" and "mastering" terms in all directions, hence the impression of a vague mess.

Since we are talking about this specific box remasterings, I didn't understand the purpose of talking about mixes that don't require mastering, since here it's an obvious case. But it's a tough subject for neophytes, a process quite hard to explain properly to people with no professional (or semi-professional) recording experience.

Africa, Cap'n Crunch, Norma Jean, Sex and Cheerio's
Play my record double speed, feel the climax fit 4 a king
Reply #634 posted 04/27/17 9:35am

Militant

moderator

Tracklist now confirmed by Apple - new thread here : http://prince.org/msg/7/441628

URL: http://new.prince.org/msg/7/441220/EXCLUSIVE-Purple-Rain-Deluxe-Tracklist-Revealed

Date printed: Sun 24th Sep 2017 12:30pm PDT