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Reply #60 posted 04/18/17 7:40pm

goonerrhys96

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Moonbeam said:


I feel the same. I want to buy it, but I'm not an American resident anymore.

I bought it from the UK in the princerogersnelson website. It's downloaded fine, and hopefuly they won't take all my money and my savings...

How I feel right now! Felt happy listening to it, then it ended and I started thinking whether I will lose everything I have for an EP.

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Reply #61 posted 04/18/17 7:46pm

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The timing is interesting. hmmm



OK... here's how this looks to me. Guy has some unfinished Prince tracks. Maybe not even that much. He spends a year 'finishing' them. He squeezes the unfinished tracks into an entire 'EP', and then puts them onsale on the date of Prince's death, and it's all half assed.

Very fucked up if you ask me. I ain't buying this shit. This is someone who is truly cashing in. Trying to sell it as "spiritual' too. Fucking gross!

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Reply #62 posted 04/18/17 7:48pm

EnDoRpHn

"Hear an Unreleased Prince Song, 'Deliverance,' Ahead of New EP Coming This Friday"

http://www.spin.com/2017/...new-music/

From the article:

Here’s how a press release describes the EP:

The songs were written and recorded when Prince was an independent artist, protesting what he saw as an unjust music industry. In the spirit of that independence, and in supporting Prince’s opinion of major label contracts, Deliverance is being released independently via RMA, a Vancouver WA based record company. The majority of from all sales of Deliverance will benefit Prince’s estate.

[Edited 4/18/17 19:50pm]
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Reply #63 posted 04/18/17 7:50pm

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Thanks for the heads up! Bought the song on iTunes and love it. It will be available on Amazon Music too. I asked Alexa to play the song on my Echo and she played a sample of the song.
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."

"Am I black or white? Am I straight or gay?"

"We had fun, didn't we?"
-Prince (1958-2016) 4ever in my life
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Reply #64 posted 04/18/17 7:53pm

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SomeSoldier said:

Moonbeam said:


I feel the same. I want to buy it, but I'm not an American resident anymore.

I bought it from the UK in the princerogersnelson website. It's downloaded fine, and hopefuly they won't take all my money and my savings...

Payment is taken by Stripe, which is legit and secure. Your credit card info is fully protected.

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Reply #65 posted 04/18/17 7:58pm

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I did the preorder on itunes and got the song "deliverance" which I LOVE. The preorder of the EP is $3.99 on itunes and I guess if you want it now, download it for $6.99 on the princerogersnelson.com website. Man they sure were slick getting that url! lol Can't believe the estate didn't scoop that.

Have U had your + today?
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Reply #66 posted 04/18/17 8:00pm

mothyham

I got it off Itunes.

souns great.

nice to have something "new" to me.

Speaking of new....I just put a deposit on a cloud guitar built by dave rusan.

spoke to him on the phone first...talked about 30 minutes.

Nice feller, has accent of "Fargo". Made me smile.

he's making them to spec, from the original 4 Prince commissioned.

Some dude in australia is getting #5.

I'm hoping for 17.

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Reply #67 posted 04/18/17 8:01pm

gandorb

SomeSoldier said:

Moonbeam said:


I feel the same. I want to buy it, but I'm not an American resident anymore.

I bought it from the UK in the princerogersnelson website. It's downloaded fine, and hopefuly they won't take all my money and my savings...

If they do, I'll see you in bankrupt hell lol !

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Reply #68 posted 04/18/17 8:01pm

EnDoRpHn

Hmmm, it was available on Apple Music a couple of hours ago, but now it's not.

Don't have a good feeling based on this "video":

https://www.facebook.com/...821564713/
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Reply #69 posted 04/18/17 8:03pm

EddieC

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Thanks for the heads up! Bought the song on iTunes and love it. It will be available on Amazon Music too. I asked Alexa to play the song on my Echo and she played a sample of the song.

Yep, I just looked on Amazon based on your post--$5.34 for pre-order, expected on the 20th. No sign of the CD release, but samples of all the tracks (though they have the samples for Sunrise Sunset and No One Else switched around). So, I guess I'll be going with Amazon, and maybe follow up with the CD when it comes.

[Edited 4/18/17 20:05pm]

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Reply #70 posted 04/18/17 8:12pm

donnyenglish

I listened to the album and it sounds good. Here is my review because I freaking miss doing this.

Deliverance: Great song. Love the guitar and love the lyrics.

I Am (Extended): Defintely sounds like a Plectrum Electrum outtake. Better than many of the songs on that album. Loving it.

Touch Me: Very short and sweet song. Kinda like Sea of Everything if there is a comparison. Amazing guitar at the end that sounds like the end of I Will.

Sunrise Sunset: Also very short and very sweet but very good. Unique sounding song in the vein of All the Midnights.

No One Else: This one gets better as the song goes on, but not as strong as the others because it kinds just lingers, but it finishes very strong. The last 3 songs sound like they go together. As a whole, they make one long very good song.

I like this as a whole because it sounds a bit different and fresh. It is not AOA level of an effort, but I don't think that was the intention. But, it certainly is a nice thing to pick up our spirits a bit. Enjoy it.

Nothing is authorized anymore. These same clueless folks have his stuff on spotify and iTunes against his wishes and call it official. He left his vault for fans. That is his will. The chaos was planned.

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Reply #71 posted 04/18/17 8:16pm

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😔

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Reply #72 posted 04/18/17 8:17pm

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OMG! OMG! OMG!!!! Lovin' Deliverance! Was only able to preorder the rest of it via iTunes.

[Edited 4/18/17 20:21pm]

"I like to watch."
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Reply #73 posted 04/18/17 8:17pm

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I like. The ep has a chaos and disorder vibe. And CAMILLE.
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Reply #74 posted 04/18/17 8:21pm

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donnyenglish said:

I listened to the album and it sounds good. Here is my review because I freaking miss doing this.



Deliverance: Great song. Love the guitar and love the lyrics.



I Am (Extended): Defintely sounds like a Plectrum Electrum outtake. Better than many of the songs on that album. Loving it.



Touch Me: Very short and sweet song. Kinda like Sea of Everything if there is a comparison. Amazing guitar at the end that sounds like the end of I Will.



Sunrise Sunset: Also very short and very sweet but very good. Unique sounding song in the vein of All the Midnights.



No One Else: This one gets better as the song goes on, but not as strong as the others because it kinds just lingers, but it finishes very strong. The last 3 songs sound like they go together. As a whole, they make one long very good song.



I like this as a whole because it sounds a bit different and fresh. It is not AOA level of an effort, but I don't think that was the intention. But, it certainly is a nice thing to pick up our spirits a bit. Enjoy it.



Nothing is authorized anymore. These same clueless folks have his stuff on spotify and iTunes against his wishes and call it official. He left his vault for fans. That is his will. The chaos was planned.



There's a difference between the Estate working out deals to put his music on streaming services and some engineer putting out an EP of remixed music against the estates wishes. And when one says "fans" what do they mean? Who determines what constitutes a fan?
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #75 posted 04/18/17 8:26pm

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Deliverance sounds real good, organic. Loved the guitar and church vibe

Peace
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Reply #76 posted 04/18/17 8:31pm

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Of course the fact that this was "finished" by someone else after prince died makes it messy as hell doesn't it? I like Deliverance a lot though.

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Reply #77 posted 04/18/17 8:36pm

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jaawwnn said:

Of course the fact that this was "finished" by someone else after prince died makes it messy as hell doesn't it? I like Deliverance a lot though.

Deliverance was only finished in terms of choir recording. Everything else was already recorded.

As far as "I Am" - I'd be surprised if that's not the Elissa track rerecorded.

Also, "No One Else" may be the Amel Larrieux track redone... at least that's what I hope.

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Reply #78 posted 04/18/17 8:36pm

donnyenglish

rogifan said:

donnyenglish said:

I listened to the album and it sounds good. Here is my review because I freaking miss doing this.



Deliverance: Great song. Love the guitar and love the lyrics.



I Am (Extended): Defintely sounds like a Plectrum Electrum outtake. Better than many of the songs on that album. Loving it.



Touch Me: Very short and sweet song. Kinda like Sea of Everything if there is a comparison. Amazing guitar at the end that sounds like the end of I Will.



Sunrise Sunset: Also very short and very sweet but very good. Unique sounding song in the vein of All the Midnights.



No One Else: This one gets better as the song goes on, but not as strong as the others because it kinds just lingers, but it finishes very strong. The last 3 songs sound like they go together. As a whole, they make one long very good song.



I like this as a whole because it sounds a bit different and fresh. It is not AOA level of an effort, but I don't think that was the intention. But, it certainly is a nice thing to pick up our spirits a bit. Enjoy it.



Nothing is authorized anymore. These same clueless folks have his stuff on spotify and iTunes against his wishes and call it official. He left his vault for fans. That is his will. The chaos was planned.



There's a difference between the Estate working out deals to put his music on streaming services and some engineer putting out an EP of remixed music against the estates wishes. And when one says "fans" what do they mean? Who determines what constitutes a fan?


There are those that love Prince. None of us can say who really loves Prince and who does not. But his gift to those that loved him was his music both released and unreleased. "The Estate" is a legal entity and it has its role. The record companies, streaming services, attorneys, etc. all have their role also. I believe he knew the chaos that would ensue when he passed and it was his plan as only Prince would do so that those that loved him would get his music. If we start debating about who should profit then we miss the point.
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Reply #79 posted 04/18/17 8:37pm

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donnyenglish said:

I listened to the album and it sounds good. Here is my review because I freaking miss doing this.



Deliverance: Great song. Love the guitar and love the lyrics.



I Am (Extended): Defintely sounds like a Plectrum Electrum outtake. Better than many of the songs on that album. Loving it.



Touch Me: Very short and sweet song. Kinda like Sea of Everything if there is a comparison. Amazing guitar at the end that sounds like the end of I Will.



Sunrise Sunset: Also very short and very sweet but very good. Unique sounding song in the vein of All the Midnights.



No One Else: This one gets better as the song goes on, but not as strong as the others because it kinds just lingers, but it finishes very strong. The last 3 songs sound like they go together. As a whole, they make one long very good song.



I like this as a whole because it sounds a bit different and fresh. It is not AOA level of an effort, but I don't think that was the intention. But, it certainly is a nice thing to pick up our spirits a bit. Enjoy it.



Nothing is authorized anymore. These same clueless folks have his stuff on spotify and iTunes against his wishes and call it official. He left his vault for fans. That is his will. The chaos was planned.








Thanks for the review! Can't wait to get it Friday. Pre-ordered on iTunes. Deliverance is on constant repeat. Hearing new music from Prince is so good for my soul right now. I love the reasoning for releasing this as an independent release in the spirit of Prince's fight against the labels for so long and finding new ways to distribute his music. The controversy continues even after his death...brilliant.

Also love you comment above...He left his vault for fans. That is his will.

The chaos was planned.

I could not agree more.

THE CHAOS WAS PLANNED.
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Reply #80 posted 04/18/17 8:39pm

Leopard52

Thank the Lord! I needed this. I don't care if it's what the estate wants. I don't care if Prince wouldn't be happy. I just don't care. After reading all the search warrant pages this was such a wonderful surprise. Its something good in this sad anniversary time period. I've only heard Deliverance but I liked it better than the new song released on the 4ever release. I've never had a bootleg and if that's what they wanna call this - I don't care about that either. biggrin
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Reply #81 posted 04/18/17 8:40pm

jaawwnn

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TrcikyChristopher said:

jaawwnn said:

Of course the fact that this was "finished" by someone else after prince died makes it messy as hell doesn't it? I like Deliverance a lot though.

Deliverance was only finished in terms of choir recording. Everything else was already recorded.

As far as "I Am" - I'd be surprised if that's not the Elissa track rerecorded.

Also, "No One Else" may be the Amel Larrieux track redone... at least that's what I hope.

But would he have wanted a choir on it? Did he leave notes instructing a choir be added? If yes would he have approved of the choir that was added?

I mean, it sounds great, don't get me wrong but... well...you know. Do we want Peggy Sue got Married with or without the overdubs? Will we be sold the untouched version of this song in a few years?

[Edited 4/18/17 20:41pm]

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Reply #82 posted 04/18/17 8:43pm

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donnyenglish said:

rogifan said:


There's a difference between the Estate working out deals to put his music on streaming services and some engineer putting out an EP of remixed music against the estates wishes. And when one says "fans" what do they mean? Who determines what constitutes a fan?


There are those that love Prince. None of us can say who really loves Prince and who does not. But his gift to those that loved him was his music both released and unreleased. "The Estate" is a legal entity and it has its role. The record companies, streaming services, attorneys, etc. all have their role also. I believe he knew the chaos that would ensue when he passed and it was his plan as only Prince would do so that those that loved him would get his music. If we start debating about who should profit then we miss the point.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. I'm glad his music is on streaming services. I loved the guy but didn't agree with all his business decisions. I'm all for cutting out the middleman and artists getting the profits from sales. But physical media is not where it's at in the 21st century, and I want his music to be where the people are. I want him to acquire new fans, young people to hear what real music by real musicians is like. And I think Spotify is one of the best ways to do that.
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Reply #83 posted 04/18/17 8:44pm

EddieC

TrcikyChristopher said:

jaawwnn said:

Of course the fact that this was "finished" by someone else after prince died makes it messy as hell doesn't it? I like Deliverance a lot though.

Deliverance was only finished in terms of choir recording. Everything else was already recorded.

As far as "I Am" - I'd be surprised if that's not the Elissa track rerecorded.

Also, "No One Else" may be the Amel Larrieux track redone... at least that's what I hope.

I don't know the Amel Larrieux, so I can't say anything about it. But from the snippets on Amazon there is no connection between the I Am that appears on this EP and the earlier song. Those of you with the full tracks should be able to clear that issue up, however.

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Reply #84 posted 04/18/17 8:45pm

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jaawwnn said:



TrcikyChristopher said:




jaawwnn said:


Of course the fact that this was "finished" by someone else after prince died makes it messy as hell doesn't it? I like Deliverance a lot though.



Deliverance was only finished in terms of choir recording. Everything else was already recorded.


As far as "I Am" - I'd be surprised if that's not the Elissa track rerecorded.


Also, "No One Else" may be the Amel Larrieux track redone... at least that's what I hope.



But would he have wanted a choir on it? Did he leave notes instructing a choir be added? If yes would he have approved of the choir that was added?

I mean, it sounds great, don't get me wrong but... well...you know. Do we want Peggy Sue got Married with or without the overdubs? Will we be sold the untouched version of this song in a few years?

[Edited 4/18/17 20:41pm]


I don't know but I love it. The choir fits on this song so well.
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Reply #85 posted 04/18/17 8:47pm

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TrcikyChristopher said:



jaawwnn said:


Of course the fact that this was "finished" by someone else after prince died makes it messy as hell doesn't it? I like Deliverance a lot though.



Deliverance was only finished in terms of choir recording. Everything else was already recorded.


As far as "I Am" - I'd be surprised if that's not the Elissa track rerecorded.


Also, "No One Else" may be the Amel Larrieux track redone... at least that's what I hope.



I am is not elisa's track. Not familiar with the amel song.
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Reply #86 posted 04/18/17 8:47pm

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I am is a totally different track to the Elisa Fiorillo one

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Reply #87 posted 04/18/17 8:58pm

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That guitar riff at :37 is exactly like OctopusHeart and it just elevates this song to a higher level.

What a gift this song right here is to all of us on a week that has been full of pain as the dreaded day approaches, the release on Monday, Universal backing out....

All that pain dissolves away listening to this totally unexpected new song from Prince and that pain is replaced with...full on joy! Thanks PRINCE.
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Reply #88 posted 04/18/17 9:01pm

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Hell to the naw to the naw naw naw!
"There is only one success-To spend your life in your own way!"
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Reply #89 posted 04/18/17 9:02pm

bashraka

I will download the EP for free. Not putting money into this charlatans' bank account. I do dig "Deliverance" though.

3121 #1 THIS YEAR
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