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Reply #90 posted 03/15/17 12:18pm

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PennyPurple said:



MattyJam said:


How is this done "from love"? It is done for one thing and one thing only: money.

If this is not about cashing in and making a cheap buck off her ex-husband and dead child, then prove it, by donating 100% of the proceeds of the book to a childrens hospital, but we all know that ain't gonna happen!

Prince's memoirs are not comparable. For starters, he did more than just marry someone to justify the writing of his memoirs. Secondly, Prince was a class act, and never would've aired his dirty laundry in public. Mayte should be honest with herself, and ask herself if she truly believes Prince would be happy about her writing this book about him. I believe she knows the answer, but the ringing of $$$ sounds louder in her ear than her conscience.


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Well....actually I seen where the proceeds from Mayte's book is going to her animal rescue.






While that is very nice, I see she only has 15 animals up for adoption, a couple million or more will go a long way with that number of pets.
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Reply #91 posted 03/15/17 12:18pm

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sonshine said:

MattyJam said:

That's possibly the most naive thing I've ever read on prince.org.

And stating people who receive divorce settlements are morally bankrupt and work-shy isn't? [Edited 3/15/17 12:14pm]


Large sum divorce settlements for marriages lasting 2-3 years with no children to support? Morally bankrupt and work-shy are two descriptions that are right on the money if you ask me.

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Reply #92 posted 03/15/17 12:18pm

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MattyJam said:

sonshine said:

laurarichardson said: Since when is it up to him to decide she can make money? If money is your point I would say it's the least he could allow her to do since she didn't get any money from him in the divorce.


Making money by writing a book about your dead husband and using the tragedy of your sons passing to drum up publicity for it is morally correct in your eyes? Why should she get a dime of Prince's money? She should stop being a freeloader and get a job, like the rest of us.

She did. lol She did get a job, she hasn't been a free loader, and she didn't live off of Prince's money.

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Look, she can do what she wants. She doesn't need anyone's permission.

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Where is all the outrage with the other people who have written books about Prince?

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Reply #93 posted 03/15/17 12:19pm

rednblue

Militant said:

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said: He said many times he was open book because everything about him is in the songs. How much more plain could he have made himself.


Bingo.

Some people here would look at a song like "Call My Name" with the lyrics:


"Heard your voice this morning calling out my name

It had been so long since I heard it
That it didn't sound quite the same, no
But it let me know that my name had never really been spoken before
Before the day I carried you through the Bridle Path door"

and they would say "oh, we don't know who the song is about! We can't say for sure!"

Never mind the fact that the Bridle Path is literally the neighborhood where Prince and Mani lived after they got married.

Prince wrote everything about his life in his songs. Like most songwriters.






Exactly. Whether or not people think he was correct about it, Prince described himself as an open book. Far from saying it is wrong to be an open book, he even described himself that way.

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Reply #94 posted 03/15/17 12:21pm

StopIt

The level of PTSD both clearly endured during those pregnancies, the birth, death, and aftermath are SO FAR beyond what most folks will ever be able to grasp. Thank God you have no idea of what such things entail.

NO, "most people" traumatized to that degree Do Not talk to anyone, including family or therapists, at all, ever. It's a survival mechanism among other things, Hello?

Your judgment and comments are so revolting it's pitiful.

For others, please stop comparing this to the loss of a newborn, a child, a miscarriage, or other routine losses and life events generally. Their circumstances were profoundly more severe and traumatic, without getting into those graphic details. Does that even need to be said? Holy shi*.

laurarichardson said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

I have such mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I do no know of any other woman that had a newborn child die, and was, and still is expected not to talk about it ever, in the real world the mother would be embraced and comforted. I think medical experts would say it is very unhealthy to suppress all of that. On the other hand, the head line "tell all" is so trashy and does not feel loving at all. The adoration and disgust I am sure will be all over the place. But in the end she can just take all that emotion to the bank.

Most people talk about this with family or a therapist not with the media. If she wrote a book to help women get over this sort of thing that would be great but that is not what she is doing.

Also she keeps going on about the test she did not have. Does she not realize that the test would not have stopped a genetic defect and I doubt he would have wanted her to abort the baby which would have been the only thing they could have done. So what is her point? Is she blaming him for a genetic defect?

There is no love in the way she is presenting herself.

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Reply #95 posted 03/15/17 12:30pm

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The following is a list of books about Prince, and it's not even updated, to include Hahn's book, Devin's book, or several other books.

Where is the outrage?

Where is the outrage about Sheila E.'s book?

Prince: The Man and His Music by Matt Thorne

I Would Die 4 U: Why Prin...me an Icon by Touré

Prince: Inside the Music and the Masks by Ronin Ro

Let’s Go Crazy: Prince and the Making of Purple Rain by Alan Light

Prince: Chaos, Disorder, and Revolution by Jason Draper

EXTRAS:

The Beat of My Own Drum: A Memoir by Sheila E. (Sheila E. is a famous drummer and Prince collaborator.)

Minneapolis in the Twentieth Century: The Growth of an American City by Iric Nathanson (Minneapolis is the city where Prince was born, and he lived close by for most of his life.)

Parental Advisory: Music Censorship in America by Eric Nuzum (Did you know that Tipper Gore started her war on music after catching her daughter listening to “Darling Nikki” by Prince?)

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Reply #96 posted 03/15/17 12:42pm

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PennyPurple said:

The following is a list of books about Prince, and it's not even updated, to include Hahn's book, Devin's book, or several other books.




Where is the outrage?


Where is the outrage about Sheila E.'s book?




Prince: The Man and His Music by Matt Thorne







I Would Die 4 U: Why Prin...me an Icon by Touré


Prince: Inside the Music and the Masks by Ronin Ro


Let’s Go Crazy: Prince and the Making of Purple Rain by Alan Light


Prince: Chaos, Disorder, and Revolution by Jason Draper









EXTRAS:


The Beat of My Own Drum: A Memoir by Sheila E. (Sheila E. is a famous drummer and Prince collaborator.)


Minneapolis in the Twentieth Century: The Growth of an American City by Iric Nathanson (Minneapolis is the city where Prince was born, and he lived close by for most of his life.)


Parental Advisory: Music Censorship in America by Eric Nuzum (Did you know that Tipper Gore started her war on music after catching her daughter listening to “Darling Nikki” by Prince?)



Was there no outrage about Sheila's book? I know I haven't read it. Again Prince was a world famous celebrity/artist/musician. You can't compare books about him & his career (even if they do contain some personal stuff/gossip) to a book from someone who is only famous because she married him. And clearly she's using Prince and the tragedy of losing their son to sell the book.
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Reply #97 posted 03/15/17 12:43pm

StopIt

Its appropriate to include some forthcoming details she wants to share, so be it.

You know ya'll looked up images of CloverLeaf Syndrome and wiki/google pics popped-up medical photos for your curious brains to consume long ago, so stop.

Folks who think they know everything may better understand what happened to them together and individually, and wrap their small brains around the severity of the PTSD such events would set-off.

Yes, it is also his story.

They were told they may have a dwarf, and their baby was delivered with no eyelids to blink, a fused head, and clawed limbs.

Have you people birthed babies?

Have you gone through amnio decisions yourselves and weighed the risks, and sat there with someone pushing a 5 inch needle into your protuding belly when you both already know there are major problems?

Stop judging and bitc*ing, its unbecoming.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

She can tell her story, it is not just princes story, he married her so he made it her story too. I do think describing the babies appearance should have been kept private, out of respect for the child. obviously something she would discuss in detail with her loved ones, but not for any random person that may or may not give a crap. To included those details and then get paid feels wrong. She could have told the exact same story without describing the little one, and not lost any of the story. Again, it just makes me feel bad for everyone, that it all had to end like this...

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Reply #98 posted 03/15/17 12:52pm

Transformed1

I don't care what OTHER PEOPLE read.

The only thing that matters is what I read or don't read. If I don't want to know, I wont read it. Why should I care if someone else wants to read it?

For those that want to read it, it's probably better to know the truth (or something close to it) than to imagine, gossip, and speculate. People are going to decide what they think happened one way or another.

I'll probably read it. I'm interested. I never thought to myself "I wish Mayte would write a book about her time with Prince", but if there's one on the shelf at the bookstore, I will read it.

All these statements that "I think it's terrible that she wrote that book" to me equal "I think it's terrible that you read that book that I dont approve of"

Get over yourself, you don't get to decide what the rest of us do, and your opinion (like mine) is just one in a couple billion, no more important than the rest.

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Reply #99 posted 03/15/17 12:56pm

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rogifan said:

PennyPurple said:

The following is a list of books about Prince, and it's not even updated, to include Hahn's book, Devin's book, or several other books.




Where is the outrage?


Where is the outrage about Sheila E.'s book?




Prince: The Man and His Music by Matt Thorne







I Would Die 4 U: Why Prin...me an Icon by Touré


Prince: Inside the Music and the Masks by Ronin Ro


Let’s Go Crazy: Prince and the Making of Purple Rain by Alan Light


Prince: Chaos, Disorder, and Revolution by Jason Draper









EXTRAS:


The Beat of My Own Drum: A Memoir by Sheila E. (Sheila E. is a famous drummer and Prince collaborator.)


Minneapolis in the Twentieth Century: The Growth of an American City by Iric Nathanson (Minneapolis is the city where Prince was born, and he lived close by for most of his life.)


Parental Advisory: Music Censorship in America by Eric Nuzum (Did you know that Tipper Gore started her war on music after catching her daughter listening to “Darling Nikki” by Prince?)



Was there no outrage about Sheila's book? I know I haven't read it. Again Prince was a world famous celebrity/artist/musician. You can't compare books about him & his career (even if they do contain some personal stuff/gossip) to a book from someone who is only famous because she married him. And clearly she's using Prince and the tragedy of losing their son to sell the book.

--There is nothing in Sheila E book we did know already as Prince only takes up 20 pages and she is a grown ass women who takes responsibility for her actions. The book is about Sheila E life in the music industry nothing to be outraged about.
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Reply #100 posted 03/15/17 12:57pm

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Transformed1 said:

I don't care what OTHER PEOPLE read.



The only thing that matters is what I read or don't read. If I don't want to know, I wont read it. Why should I care if someone else wants to read it?



For those that want to read it, it's probably better to know the truth (or something close to it) than to imagine, gossip, and speculate. People are going to decide what they think happened one way or another.



I'll probably read it. I'm interested. I never thought to myself "I wish Mayte would write a book about her time with Prince", but if there's one on the shelf at the bookstore, I will read it.



All these statements that "I think it's terrible that she wrote that book" to me equal "I think it's terrible that you read that book that I dont approve of"



Get over yourself, you don't get to decide what the rest of us do, and your opinion (like mine) is just one in a couple billion, no more important than the rest.


I go not think it is terrible that people want to read it. I think it is terrible they she wrote it.
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Reply #101 posted 03/15/17 1:01pm

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So 20 years of PTSD will be healed by writing a book and making money instead of seeking professional help? Also that was Prince's baby as well I wonder why he did not heal by writing a book?

StopIt said:

The level of PTSD both clearly endured during those pregnancies, the birth, death, and aftermath are SO FAR beyond what most folks will ever be able to grasp. Thank God you have no idea of what such things entail.



NO, "most people" traumatized to that degree Do Not talk to anyone, including family or therapists, at all, ever. It's a survival mechanism among other things, Hello?



Your judgment and comments are so revolting it's pitiful.



For others, please stop comparing this to the loss of a newborn, a child, a miscarriage, or other routine losses and life events generally. Their circumstances were profoundly more severe and traumatic, without getting into those graphic details. Does that even need to be said? Holy shi*.





laurarichardson said:




LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:


I have such mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I do no know of any other woman that had a newborn child die, and was, and still is expected not to talk about it ever, in the real world the mother would be embraced and comforted. I think medical experts would say it is very unhealthy to suppress all of that. On the other hand, the head line "tell all" is so trashy and does not feel loving at all. The adoration and disgust I am sure will be all over the place. But in the end she can just take all that emotion to the bank.

Most people talk about this with family or a therapist not with the media. If she wrote a book to help women get over this sort of thing that would be great but that is not what she is doing.



Also she keeps going on about the test she did not have. Does she not realize that the test would not have stopped a genetic defect and I doubt he would have wanted her to abort the baby which would have been the only thing they could have done. So what is her point? Is she blaming him for a genetic defect?



There is no love in the way she is presenting herself.



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Reply #102 posted 03/15/17 1:09pm

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MattyJam is triggered.

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Reply #103 posted 03/15/17 1:09pm

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Mayte Garcia has feelings too.

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Reply #104 posted 03/15/17 1:16pm

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sonshine said:

Which is it? Some of you have been leading the charge for more information regarding his life and death. Begging, digging, demanding, scouring for the most sensitive and personal details. Then when you get it you jump on the "give him his privacy" bandwagon. Just stop with the contradictions and hypocrisy so we can have a nice clean, focused thread for once that doesn't veer off in a number of horrible directions only to eventually land in the gutter again where it will be locked. Thank u. I'll add my own comments about the article and book in a few min.

yeahthat

I am not a Mayte apologizer..but...

Dont forget about all the people who have been begging for the autopsy to be released.

Or all the people counting down the days until the criminal investigative report

will be released along with all the gory details.

How much more personal and invasive can you get if you want to see an autopsy report, and

criminal investigative report?

If you dont want to read her book, dont buy the book, and just scroll by the org threads that discuss it.

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Reply #105 posted 03/15/17 1:17pm

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rogifan said:

NouveauDance said:

This is what they [tabloid media] do, the days of clutching your pearls at salacious headlines are long gone. Vote with your wallet and clicks.

Which is why I'm not buying the book, didn't click on the People link and won't click on any others.

Your clicking this thread.

Whats the difference?

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Reply #106 posted 03/15/17 1:35pm

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She has the right to tell her story.. PERIOD!

"holding grudges and anger is a waste of energy, We are all going to die. We are all evolving, trying to become better people, so let it go.”
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Reply #107 posted 03/15/17 1:42pm

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MD431Madcat said:

She has the right to tell her story.. PERIOD!


There's a difference between "can" and "should."

I mean if he did have sex he would break every rule Jehova's have regarding premarital sex so Prince is really just friends with them all anyway.
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Reply #108 posted 03/15/17 1:58pm

PRNelson

Genesia said:



MD431Madcat said:


She has the right to tell her story.. PERIOD!




There's a difference between "can" and "should."




Well said.

The woman sold his love letter of marriage proposal whilst he was still here. Expect the same from the book now he's gone.
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Reply #109 posted 03/15/17 1:58pm

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...And she has a right, I believe, to discuss her child who passed away 20 years ago, regardless of how the child's now-deceased father wanted that issue addressed. The way Prince handled that whole part of his life was atypical at best and, one could argue, cruel at worst, and to expect that Mayte should be required to adhere to his very unusual preferences for the rest of her life seems a little over the top.

MD431Madcat said:

She has the right to tell her story.. PERIOD!

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Reply #110 posted 03/15/17 2:12pm

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disch said:

...And she has a right, I believe, to discuss her child who passed away 20 years ago, regardless of how the child's now-deceased father wanted that issue addressed. The way Prince handled that whole part of his life was atypical at best and, one could argue, cruel at worst, and to expect that Mayte should be required to adhere to his very unusual preferences for the rest of her life seems a little over the top.



MD431Madcat said:


She has the right to tell her story.. PERIOD!




--And you were there so you know how he handled it? I think he was just as grief stricken as she was but did what a lot of men do. Shut down when things get to emotional. We know he threw himself into his work, moved on, and never used the death of that child for profit or publicity. We all see that she is doing the opposite and are well within our rights to judge. Everybody on this earth can be judged.
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Reply #111 posted 03/15/17 2:16pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

rogifan said:

Which is why I'm not buying the book, didn't click on the People link and won't click on any others.

Your clicking this thread.

Whats the difference?

The difference is you buy People they get money, you click their site they get ad impressions. They don't get revenue or ad impressions from just reading this thread.

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[Edited 3/15/17 14:17pm]

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Reply #112 posted 03/15/17 2:17pm

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DailyMail.Online has more of the book detailed. What its excerpts reveal is that Prince ruled the roost in that relationship (yes, I know - duh), and he refused to permit essential medical testing. Mayte was too young or too something to stand up for herself and have the testing. I wonder if today, with the same diagnosis, a couple might elect an abortion rather than go through with the pregnancy.

The amniocentesis test does nothing but let you know that there is a problem. The test is given around month 6 of a pregnancy. Given that Mayte is more than likely of the Catholic faith, she probably would not have had an abortion. Not having the test changed nothing. I have 2 kids and elected not to take the amniocentesis test both times.

Also, the Daily Mail can't seem to publish the truth. I spotted a falsehood right away. I seriously doubt that Prince adopted Mayte. lol

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Reply #113 posted 03/15/17 2:39pm

disch

Well, we all know that he didn't discuss or even acknowledge his son publicly (which was his choice and right to do) and that he and Mayte both did that interview with Oprah where they pretended their child was still alive. There are many other stories that have been reported from "behind the scenes" (not just by Mayte), but we all know those 2 facts, and that the behavior appeared unexpected.

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I'm not judging Prince; I'm saying that Mayte essentially went along with his preferences while Prince was alive, but if now she wants to talk more openly about her child, I think that's her right.

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And I'm not saying Mayte is "right" or "wrong" in telling her story; in my view, a mom can talk about her child's life and death if she wants (even in a book) and that does not fall out of the bounds decent human behavior. (And as a side note, as others have noted here, it's a bit disingenuous for some orgers to insatiably want more info about P's admittedly mysterious life and death, but then rain judgment on someone who might offers that, or at least their own perspective, which is pretty much all anyone can offer anyway.)

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<shrug> we'll just agree to disagree, sounds like. I don't have more to add in this particular discussion.

laurarichardson said:

disch said:

...And she has a right, I believe, to discuss her child who passed away 20 years ago, regardless of how the child's now-deceased father wanted that issue addressed. The way Prince handled that whole part of his life was atypical at best and, one could argue, cruel at worst, and to expect that Mayte should be required to adhere to his very unusual preferences for the rest of her life seems a little over the top.

--And you were there so you know how he handled it? I think he was just as grief stricken as she was but did what a lot of men do. Shut down when things get to emotional. We know he threw himself into his work, moved on, and never used the death of that child for profit or publicity. We all see that she is doing the opposite and are well within our rights to judge. Everybody on this earth can be judged.

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Reply #114 posted 03/15/17 2:42pm

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

PennyPurple said:

Well....actually I seen where the proceeds from Mayte's book is going to her animal rescue.

While that is very nice, I see she only has 15 animals up for adoption, a couple million or more will go a long way with that number of pets.

Uhmmmm... that is some bull.... Mayte has been helping dogs for years- MANY MANY of them. Not only 15 dogs. I haven't read through this whole thread yet but no one should act like she doesn't really help animals- she does and that is wonderful. I love Prince but if he were so great, he would have had a will and left a huge chunk of it to her animal rescue. Animals matter. They have no voice. They are sick, hungry, and abused and no one should ever try and negate what she does for animals.

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Reply #115 posted 03/15/17 2:59pm

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Quick glance through this thread and fuck that. I like Mayte, I always have, hell I even thought her album was good. I thought the pre-pub was ok and I'll be buying the finished book too.

Do you have it in green?
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Reply #116 posted 03/15/17 3:02pm

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rogifan said:

What Prince thinks of this book and all the tabloid headlines to come: 17308837_1645742228774437_7562313701068710061_n.jpg?oh=467372f475a31d4620dba706b9bea1ce&oe=592FFCFB

yeahthat

He would say:

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Reply #117 posted 03/15/17 3:18pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



rogifan said:


NouveauDance said:

This is what they [tabloid media] do, the days of clutching your pearls at salacious headlines are long gone. Vote with your wallet and clicks.



Which is why I'm not buying the book, didn't click on the People link and won't click on any others.

Your clicking this thread.


Whats the difference?


And once this thread starts discussing the book in detail I'll stop posting in it. I'm not reading her book or any of the tabloid excerpts.
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Reply #118 posted 03/15/17 3:18pm

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Did the thread for the People article disappear?

Anyway, read that, I can see myself buying the book, I feel better about it. And for the one personal thing about herself in the article, my prayers are with her.

“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
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Reply #119 posted 03/15/17 3:26pm

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PT 2!

MD431Madcat said:

She has the right to tell her story.. PERIOD!

"holding grudges and anger is a waste of energy, We are all going to die. We are all evolving, trying to become better people, so let it go.”
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