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Reply #30 posted 03/15/17 9:09am

IstenSzek

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i have no problem with her writing a book. she has every right to do so.

the thing i don't like about this release is the way the press will pick up
bits and pieces and run with the most controversial headlines.

but that is to be expected, i guess. we'll see more of this with books by
other people coming out one after the other.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #31 posted 03/15/17 9:26am

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This is what they [tabloid media] do, the days of clutching your pearls at salacious headlines are long gone. Vote with your wallet and clicks.

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Reply #32 posted 03/15/17 9:27am

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I really hate seeing the media having a field day
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Reply #33 posted 03/15/17 9:28am

PeteSilas

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:
Not the same at all. And we can never say for sure who these songs were written for/about. The idea that Prince didn't write a tell-all because his tell-all was in his songs...not buying it.
He said many times he was open book because everything about him is in the songs. How much more plain could he have made himself.

he did say he was "open book" but he clearly never meant it, you have to go by what people do not what they say. He was perturbed any time some ex-associate said anything about him.

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Reply #34 posted 03/15/17 9:33am

Identity

I'm looking forward to reading her new book, although I know it will be difficult so close to the anniversary of Prince's death.


Maybe she will have a low key book launch event in L.A. and sign copies. If she does, I'm showing up.

[Edited 3/15/17 10:22am]

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Reply #35 posted 03/15/17 9:34am

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PeteSilas said:



laurarichardson said:


rogifan said:
Not the same at all. And we can never say for sure who these songs were written for/about. The idea that Prince didn't write a tell-all because his tell-all was in his songs...not buying it.

He said many times he was open book because everything about him is in the songs. How much more plain could he have made himself.

he did say he was "open book" but he clearly never meant it, you have to go by what people do not what they say. He was perturbed any time some ex-associate said anything about him.


-/Because he decide if he wanted to address an issue in a song. Because you are celebrity it does mean you obligated to have all your business in the street. All celebs who do this stuff it blows up in their face. The media builds you up and then rips you apart and the celb is the one that gave the media the gun to shoot them with. Prince did not do that stupid shit and his associates are all going to see what happens when they really start talking to the media.
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Reply #36 posted 03/15/17 9:36am

PeteSilas

i guess what i'm getting at is that songwriters and artists do take a think called artistic license, in song and poem, love and women are idealized and everything is magnified. It's not meant to be realistic. A book or articles is meant to be truthful even though it often isn't, it's suppossed to be. different mediums.

Militant said:

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said: He said many times he was open book because everything about him is in the songs. How much more plain could he have made himself.


Bingo.

Some people here would look at a song like "Call My Name" with the lyrics:


"Heard your voice this morning calling out my name

It had been so long since I heard it
That it didn't sound quite the same, no
But it let me know that my name had never really been spoken before
Before the day I carried you through the Bridle Path door"

and they would say "oh, we don't know who the song is about! We can't say for sure!"

Never mind the fact that the Bridle Path is literally the neighborhood where Prince and Mani lived after they got married.

Prince wrote everything about his life in his songs. Like most songwriters.






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Reply #37 posted 03/15/17 9:38am

PeteSilas

laurarichardson said:

PeteSilas said:

he did say he was "open book" but he clearly never meant it, you have to go by what people do not what they say. He was perturbed any time some ex-associate said anything about him.

-/Because he decide if he wanted to address an issue in a song. Because you are celebrity it does mean you obligated to have all your business in the street. All celebs who do this stuff it blows up in their face. The media builds you up and then rips you apart and the celb is the one that gave the media the gun to shoot them with. Prince did not do that stupid shit and his associates are all going to see what happens when they really start talking to the media.

I'm not judging him, he had his reasons for what he did and he was smarter than most of us. I am just saying i thought it was almost laughable for him to say he was open book, he never was although I think he relaxed the older he got. I cannot see him writing a memoir remotely as revealing and self-deprecating as springsteen but then, I haven't seen anyone write a book that honest (maybe Johnny Cash).

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Reply #38 posted 03/15/17 10:06am

Mroshun

I am actually excited to read the book. I have no doubt that Mayte will honor him and their shared moments together.

Some of you all buy into the media hype and the marketing ploy. She is not going to exploit him nor dog him.

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Reply #39 posted 03/15/17 10:09am

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laurarichardson said:

PeteSilas said:



laurarichardson said:


rogifan said:
Not the same at all. And we can never say for sure who these songs were written for/about. The idea that Prince didn't write a tell-all because his tell-all was in his songs...not buying it.

He said many times he was open book because everything about him is in the songs. How much more plain could he have made himself.

he did say he was "open book" but he clearly never meant it, you have to go by what people do not what they say. He was perturbed any time some ex-associate said anything about him.


-/Because he decide if he wanted to address an issue in a song. Because you are celebrity it does mean you obligated to have all your business in the street. All celebs who do this stuff it blows up in their face. The media builds you up and then rips you apart and the celb is the one that gave the media the gun to shoot them with. Prince did not do that stupid shit and his associates are all going to see what happens when they really start talking to the media.

Which is it? Some of you have been leading the charge for more information regarding his life and death. Begging, digging, demanding, scouring for the most sensitive and personal details. Then when you get it you jump on the "give him his privacy" bandwagon. Just stop with the contradictions and hypocrisy so we can have a nice clean, focused thread for once that doesn't veer off in a number of horrible directions only to eventually land in the gutter again where it will be locked. Thank u. I'll add my own comments about the article and book in a few min.
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Reply #40 posted 03/15/17 10:11am

rogifan

What Prince thinks of this book and all the tabloid headlines to come:

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Reply #41 posted 03/15/17 10:15am

rogifan

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:


Not the same at all. And we can never say for sure who these songs were written for/about. The idea that Prince didn't write a tell-all because his tell-all was in his songs...not buying it.

He said many times he was open book because everything about him is in the songs. How much more plain could he have made himself.

I'm sorry you still can't compare it to a tell-all book. And honestly how many people study lyrics? It's not the same at all.
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Reply #42 posted 03/15/17 10:16am

rogifan

NouveauDance said:

This is what they [tabloid media] do, the days of clutching your pearls at salacious headlines are long gone. Vote with your wallet and clicks.


Which is why I'm not buying the book, didn't click on the People link and won't click on any others.
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Reply #43 posted 03/15/17 10:21am

laytonian

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Oh goodie.
An instant complaint and judgmental thread about a book no one has read.
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Instead, judging the author like she's "the help" and worse.
When y'all start discussing the contents of the book, let me know.
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Reply #44 posted 03/15/17 10:23am

1Sasha

DailyMail.Online has more of the book detailed. What its excerpts reveal is that Prince ruled the roost in that relationship (yes, I know - duh), and he refused to permit essential medical testing. Mayte was too young or too something to stand up for herself and have the testing. I wonder if today, with the same diagnosis, a couple might elect an abortion rather than go through with the pregnancy.

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Reply #45 posted 03/15/17 10:28am

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There was nothing wrong with the article in People. I'm looking forward to the book.

It's sad that she has been diagnosed with MS though.

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Reply #46 posted 03/15/17 10:29am

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sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:


-/Because he decide if he wanted to address an issue in a song. Because you are celebrity it does mean you obligated to have all your business in the street. All celebs who do this stuff it blows up in their face. The media builds you up and then rips you apart and the celb is the one that gave the media the gun to shoot them with. Prince did not do that stupid shit and his associates are all going to see what happens when they really start talking to the media.

Which is it? Some of you have been leading the charge for more information regarding his life and death. Begging, digging, demanding, scouring for the most sensitive and personal details. Then when you get it you jump on the "give him his privacy" bandwagon. Just stop with the contradictions and hypocrisy so we can have a nice clean, focused thread for once that doesn't veer off in a number of horrible directions only to eventually land in the gutter again where it will be locked. Thank u. I'll add my own comments about the article and book in a few min.

-- His case information will be open to the public eventrually so no one has to beg. The details of the child's birth defects are not needed as well as the details of their marriage. The thing is no one in the media cares about his death but they care about a marriage from 20 years ago. Why do you that is?
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Reply #47 posted 03/15/17 10:30am

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This book is beyond tacky and totally a cynical cash-in from Mayte. She should be ashamed, although its hardly surprising.

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Reply #48 posted 03/15/17 10:33am

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1Sasha said:

DailyMail.Online has more of the book detailed. What its excerpts reveal is that Prince ruled the roost in that relationship (yes, I know - duh), and he refused to permit essential medical testing. Mayte was too young or too something to stand up for herself and have the testing. I wonder if today, with the same diagnosis, a couple might elect an abortion rather than go through with the pregnancy.


--Medical testing would have done nothing to stop birth defect. In fact that test can cause a miscarriage plenty of people do not have it done for that reason. I doubt he would have been okay with an abortion. I am wonder if she even realizes what see is stating. Also if you over the age of 18 you can have any test you want. He would not have been able to stop her.
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Reply #49 posted 03/15/17 10:35am

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rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:


He said many times he was open book because everything about him is in the songs. How much more plain could he have made himself.

I'm sorry you still can't compare it to a tell-all book. And honestly how many people study lyrics? It's not the same at all.

-/Prince was songwriter not an author and plenty of Prince fan pay attention the lyrics.
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Reply #50 posted 03/15/17 10:36am

rogifan

laytonian said:

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Oh goodie.
An instant complaint and judgmental thread about a book no one has read.
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Instead, judging the author like she's "the help" and worse.
When y'all start discussing the contents of the book, let me know.
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I don't care what the books says. We all know it wouldn't be happening if he was still alive. Imagine what people would be saying if this was a book from M2...
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Reply #51 posted 03/15/17 10:36am

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rogifan said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:
I have such mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I do no know of any other woman that had a newborn child die, and was, and still is expected not to talk about it ever, in the real world the mother would be embraced and comforted. I think medical experts would say it is very unhealthy to suppress all of that. On the other hand, the head line "tell all" is so trashy and does not feel loving at all. The adoration and disgust I am sure will be all over the place. But in the end she can just take all that emotion to the bank.
There's no mixed feelings for me. Sorry to anyone here who knows Mayte but to me there are no good intentions here. And to have the book come out the same month as the 1 year anniversary of his passing...it makes me ill. And when Funkenberry says Mayte has a right to tell her side of the story my first question would be when did Prince tell his? Also why does Mayte get a pass when Mani never would? laurarichardson said:
Since he is not here it all the more reason to be respectful that was his son as much as he was Mayte's. Next she will be showing pics of the baby, how about elavator pics, or authosy photos were do you draw the line of just being disrespectul and greedy but I guess as long as we know every intimate detail of his life it is okay. eek
It's one thing to do the book but to then let tabloids splash it across the front pages of their magazines. I know People isn't the worst of the lot but still...Prince never dished on anybody, certainly not the women he was with. I get that she has a right to do this but doesn't mean I have to respect it. [Edited 3/15/17 8:05am]

Prince was in the process of writing his own book. He could have told his story to anyone he pleased, just like Mayte can.

I agree with Militant he told his life thru his songs.

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Reply #52 posted 03/15/17 10:36am

rogifan

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:


I'm sorry you still can't compare it to a tell-all book. And honestly how many people study lyrics? It's not the same at all.

-/Prince was songwriter not an author and plenty of Prince fan pay attention the lyrics.

Mayte isn't an author either.
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Reply #53 posted 03/15/17 10:38am

PennyPurple

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morningsong said:

So has anyone read the actual article?

Yes, there was nothing wrong with the article.

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Reply #54 posted 03/15/17 10:38am

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i agree. Especially when it comes to talking about her and Prince's son. Mayte more or less adhered to Prince's wishes on the matter for 20 YEARS -- and his wishes on this (basically not acknowledging his son's existence publicly) were pretty strange and honestly appeared cruel. But now, if she wants to talk about her son publicly, including saying his name (which is something that many mothers who lost a child would want to do), I think that's well within her rights. And again, we're talking about a child who passed 2 decades ago, not last week.

nelcp777 said:

Militant said:



He's not here. That's the point. Isn't it better that the people he left behind tell their stories, as long as it's done out of love? They certainly have the right to do so.

If you read the excerpt, it's heart-breaking stuff. Everyone who reads it will feel such sympathy for Prince and Mayte over these events. Most couples probably wouldn't survive it, let alone a famous couple with so many other pressures.

Prince didn't like anyone talking about him. If he walked into a 7-11 and bought a soda and then the person who served him told his friend "Hey, Prince came in today" - Prince wouldn't like it. That's because he built his career from mystery and enigma as well as talent. He's the guy who didn't do interviews when he had the biggest album in the world.

But you can't maintain enigma when you're gone.

If anything, I personally feel like everyone who has a story to tell, should tell it. Because that's all that's left now. It humanises him. It allows us to see him as a multi-dimensional human being.

Mayte was unquestionably one of the most important relationships in Prince's entire life. Nobody is going to deny that. I personally support her telling her story. Other people won't, and that's their prerogative.



Well said.

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Reply #55 posted 03/15/17 10:41am

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

so, to continue. I guess she has every right to do a book..it was her loss too. However of everyone involved in his circle this is the one I dreaded the most. Other books will follow an inevitable pattern i.e. cute stories, some insights into the recording process, his work ethic, charitable works, funny stories, he was a hard task master etc.

Mayte's book however crosses a huge line for me in that we all know how firecely private P was, this was a shattering moment for him too & he did not want this part of life shared. To do a book like this should require 100% approval from both parties - it wasn't done when he was alive & yet as soon as he's gone here we have the full account. By the looks of it no details spared & fully sensationalised in People magazine...& inevitably will be picked up by tabloids across the globe.

So, as we approach April 21st 2017..this book will dominate...as if we & more importantly his family aren't hurt enough. It refelcts incredibly badly IMHO on her & her motives.

What a world we live in. sad

Prince was beginning to write his own book. Would it have required 100% approval from ALL parties involved? I don't think so.

There was nothing wrong with the People magazine article. Nothing in that article that hasn't already been discussed HERE, time and time again.

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Reply #56 posted 03/15/17 10:57am

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Firstly, I used to like People mag back in the day. They are still better than some gossip mags but their headlines are another story. I hate how they sensationalize their content. It prob doesn't sit well with Mayte either. But all they care about is selling issues. They don't care about the people in People.

That being said I had already decided not to buy or read her book. And everyone else has that same choice. I respect her for doing what was right for her and in her heart. She's certainly allowed to do so. I have no bad feelings towards her for doing this. But I don't like sad stories, i don't like sad movies, or sad songs. Life can be hard enough some days so I avoid things that might bring me down. I already know more than enough about their life together. I prefer stories with a happy ending. I'm a hopeless romantic who naively clings to the ideal of "happily ever after". We already knew how their story ended. I don't want to read the heart wrenching details that got them there. They suffered a devastating tragedy no one should have to endure. There are other aspects of their relationship that never sat well with me but I prefer not to dwell on those lest I confuse the artist too much with the person.

As someone who has followed Prince since the early 80's there were times he disappointed me as a human being. But if I get too wrapped up in all that I'm afraid it will taint the respect and admiration I have had for the artist basically my entire adult life. He earned that due to his superior musicianship and prolific output. He has given me a lifetime of discovery, enjoyment, entertainment, fun, laughter, and love via his work and there is nothing anyone writes about him that can change what he accomplished. I see no reason to be upset with any of these books. I'm not willing to give up the gifts he generously shared with the world by getting embroiled in his personal business. I'm just going to continue to enjoy them while acknowledging he was a flawed individual. And that's ok with me.
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Reply #57 posted 03/15/17 11:00am

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How is this done "from love"? It is done for one thing and one thing only: money.

If this is not about cashing in and making a cheap buck off her ex-husband and dead child, then prove it, by donating 100% of the proceeds of the book to a childrens hospital, but we all know that ain't gonna happen!

Prince's memoirs are not comparable. For starters, he did more than just marry someone to justify the writing of his memoirs. Secondly, Prince was a class act, and never would've aired his dirty laundry in public. Mayte should be honest with herself, and ask herself if she truly believes Prince would be happy about her writing this book about him. I believe she knows the answer, but the ringing of $$$ sounds louder in her ear than her conscience.

[Edited 3/15/17 11:03am]

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Reply #58 posted 03/15/17 11:05am

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...the cover wording is distasteful and implies something other than what I read.
The media is at it again...
[Edited 3/15/17 11:07am]
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Reply #59 posted 03/15/17 11:07am

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PennyPurple said:

morningsong said:

So has anyone read the actual article?

Yes, there was nothing wrong with the article.



Is it talking about what the cover of the magazine is implying is in it?

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