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Reply #570 posted 04/18/17 3:01am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The Sheriff's Department said the case is still open and active


so there will be no comments on the details?


WTF does that mean?


Why would you release documents when the case is still active?


I'm assuming it will be heavily redacted if the case is still active.



--Well Dr. S is saying he never wrote any Rxs for Prince for controlled substances despite him saying he wrote then under Kirk's name to protect Prince's privacy. How did his statement get in the search warrant? What did Kirk need Oxy and nausea meds for? I think the cops let the search warrants out to tighten the noose around Kirk's neck.
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Reply #571 posted 04/18/17 3:24am

rogifan

I wouldn't want Troy Carter's job.

http://www.billboard.com/...abel-deals
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
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Reply #572 posted 04/18/17 4:07am

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rogifan said:

I wouldn't want Troy Carter's job.

http://www.billboard.com/...abel-deals

--Well according to Dr. Funkenberry Prince knew this guy and reached out to him a few times so maybe he has some insight into what was going on.
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Reply #573 posted 04/18/17 4:40am

1Sasha

He is apparently pretty sharp, and maybe - because he is younger - he will have some new ideas on how to bring in new fans over the coming years.

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Reply #574 posted 04/18/17 4:53am

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1Sasha said:

He is apparently pretty sharp, and maybe - because he is younger - he will have some new ideas on how to bring in new fans over the coming years.

It sounds like he may have some fresh ideas. I hope he can push WB to move faster on getting the records out as deluxe additions and vault material. They really need to put a few things out every year before people start forgetting about the music.

I say thank god Prince signed the licensing deal with them because we are going to get the PR remaster and if he had not signed that deal nothing would be coming out for years.

With the estate owning the master tapes and WB having the license to the WB albums and vault I think Prince made good provisons for his music. The soundtracks are actually WB for eternity.

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Reply #575 posted 04/18/17 7:15am

1Sasha

LR, I agree. If that music does not come out on a routine basis he will be forgot by all but those who love him and his music.

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Reply #576 posted 04/20/17 6:39am

nelcp777

Carlin Q tried to release a hail Mary, but Judge Eide seems to have struck him down so to speak.

Jeffers asked for a subpoena in Florida, but the Judge informed her he does not have jurisdiction.

These were posted yesterday.

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Reply #577 posted 04/20/17 7:34am

ISaidLifeIsJus
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nelcp777 said:

Carlin Q tried to release a hail Mary, but Judge Eide seems to have struck him down so to speak.

Jeffers asked for a subpoena in Florida, but the Judge informed her he does not have jurisdiction.

These were posted yesterday.

It appears his attorney Crooked Cousins didnt tell him (nor follow through)

that the Judge approved a second DNA test.

eek

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Reply #578 posted 04/20/17 8:34am

nelcp777

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 said:

Carlin Q tried to release a hail Mary, but Judge Eide seems to have struck him down so to speak.

Jeffers asked for a subpoena in Florida, but the Judge informed her he does not have jurisdiction.

These were posted yesterday.

It appears his attorney Crooked Cousins didnt tell him (nor follow through)

that the Judge approved a second DNA test.

eek

Sucks to be him. He had 2 attorneys. He will have to prove that his attorneys did not tell him.

I am still dumbfounded about the Jeffers claim and the Judge allowing it. It will be interesting (but probably not shocking) to see it play out. I am sure there is no evidence to support the slayer rule.

When all the frivolous claim and appeals are thrown out/done, we still have the Bremer fiasco for entertainment (trying to be silly).

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Reply #579 posted 04/20/17 5:24pm

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laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:



Thanks. Some of this I wasn't grasping. I saw the 40 business entities, I wonder what that's about. Looks like Comerica has a lot to roll up their sleeves about.

Some of the business entities were in the original inventory sheets it looked some were inactive.

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Wanted to post the Love 4 One Another Charity information I found. I could not get the document to paste so I retyped it. I am not sure when all this took place but I believe he close Love 4 One Another right when M2 filled for divorce. Notice that he gave money to M2 charity and 10k to Kat Dyson.

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Kat Dyson – 10,000

Halo USA – 10,000

Jedevine Center For Autism 10,000

Marva N. Collins Preparatory School 10,000

Youth and Shelter Services, Inc 10,000

Children’s Coalition, Inc 7,000

L.A. Family Housing Donations 7,000

C-Space West Side Community Center $7,000

Peccole Ranch Lakes Kingdom Hall Fund 7,000

Minnesota Helps Bridge Disaster Fund $50,000

Urban Farming $45,000.00

In A Perfect World $50,000

Michael Rolfe Pancreatic Cancer Foundation $5,000

Hearts of Gold $1,000

Smitty Boykin $50,000.

The Missing Piece Foundation $5,000

Donors Choice $15, 000

GTC Turning Point $12,000

Education Gallery Group $12,000

Academy 331 $12,000

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Reply #580 posted 04/21/17 3:04am

deerpath

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

I don't think any one person or any entity knows everything Prince was doing legally/financially that last year, or even two years. Add in his alleged medical issues, and it is unbelievably complicated. Now we have a fighting family, administrators who are either incompetent or too diligent, outside companies which may own more of his work product than anyone knows, and I can foresee at least two to five more years of wrangling to straighten things out. Didn't Michael Jackson's estate take about that long to reach some semblance of calm, and he had a will. The manager from Graceland said Paisley Park was "triaged" to get it to the point it could be open to the public again ... Prince, who was so meticulous about PP, apparently didn't care about the maintenance of the building complex in his final years. I don't think any of us could have imagined what has happened and/or been revealed since April 21. I know I couldn't.

The only thing they mentioned was the Heat/HVAC system which could have conked out the day he died for all we know. The building had to be brung up to code to be converted into a musuem so I think that may be what they are refering to.

Remember he was recording with musicians up and til January and none of them have said anything about the building being in disrepair.

I think contracts are usually pretty clear and some people managing his estate are trying to illegally chanllege these contracts and did not take the time to due their due dilengence.

That is not Prince's fault. He made a deal with WB that he loudly trumped in the media so he must have been happy with it and if that deal means each album has different terms and conditions that means only WB will have interest in his material I suspect the deal was structed in this manner to stop estate managers from circumventing his wishes as a will might have been contested.

How can you contest or break a contract that may have given WB licensing rights forever for some of the albums if not all. Prince knew what he was doing at least as far as this deal was concerned.

[Edited 4/17/17 6:16am]

The Prince Online Museum is open today as tribute and in the 2013 web site development is a story by the man who designed this interim site. Asked "Do you have a memory with Prince that really stands out? he said,
"I have memories that always come back to me when I think of Paisley Park. The first week I was there, I setup my equipment in an unused video editing suite (right below Prince’s apartment). The room had not been used in a while and the heating was not working in there. I was working with my coat on when Prince came in and apologized about the temperature. He said he’d get me a space heater from upstairs until they got it fixed. 5 minutes later he walks in carrying a space heater! He plugs it in next to me and walks out. All the while I’m thinking – really? Did Prince just bring me a space heater from his apartment?"

"Hold on to your souls y'all. We got a long way to go. Thank you! We love y'all!"
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Reply #581 posted 04/21/17 5:19am

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1Sasha said:

LR, I agree. If that music does not come out on a routine basis he will be forgot by all but those who love him and his music.

More crap about Londell. The headline alone kills me. Hopefully this will be an exhibit soon and we can read the whole thing.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/prince-tribute-concert-at-center-of-new-dispute-1492717640

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Reply #582 posted 04/21/17 8:18am

nelcp777

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

Some of the business entities were in the original inventory sheets it looked some were inactive.

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Wanted to post the Love 4 One Another Charity information I found. I could not get the document to paste so I retyped it. I am not sure when all this took place but I believe he close Love 4 One Another right when M2 filled for divorce. Notice that he gave money to M2 charity and 10k to Kat Dyson.

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Kat Dyson – 10,000

Halo USA – 10,000

Jedevine Center For Autism 10,000

Marva N. Collins Preparatory School 10,000

Youth and Shelter Services, Inc 10,000

Children’s Coalition, Inc 7,000

L.A. Family Housing Donations 7,000

C-Space West Side Community Center $7,000

Peccole Ranch Lakes Kingdom Hall Fund 7,000

Minnesota Helps Bridge Disaster Fund $50,000

Urban Farming $45,000.00

In A Perfect World $50,000

Michael Rolfe Pancreatic Cancer Foundation $5,000

Hearts of Gold $1,000

Smitty Boykin $50,000.

The Missing Piece Foundation $5,000

Donors Choice $15, 000

GTC Turning Point $12,000

Education Gallery Group $12,000

Academy 331 $12,000

Interesting, Urban Farming is headed by Taja Sevelle. Just read an article on NbcNews:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/former-prince-prot-g-he-would-have-wanted-us-all-n749061

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Reply #583 posted 04/21/17 10:41am

PurpleDiamonds
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Dupe post
[Edited 4/21/17 10:44am]
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Reply #584 posted 04/21/17 10:44am

PurpleDiamonds
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1Sasha said:

LR, I agree. If that music does not come out on a routine basis he will be forgot by all but those who love him and his music.


nod agree
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Reply #585 posted 04/21/17 11:09am

Astasheiks

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1Sasha said:

LR, I agree. If that music does not come out on a routine basis he will be forgot by all but those who love him and his music.

P will never be forgotten by certain amount of Fans/Fams whether new music comes out or not! eek smile

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Reply #586 posted 04/22/17 1:55pm

MMJas

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deerpath said:

laurarichardson said:

The only thing they mentioned was the Heat/HVAC system which could have conked out the day he died for all we know. The building had to be brung up to code to be converted into a musuem so I think that may be what they are refering to.

Remember he was recording with musicians up and til January and none of them have said anything about the building being in disrepair.

I think contracts are usually pretty clear and some people managing his estate are trying to illegally chanllege these contracts and did not take the time to due their due dilengence.

That is not Prince's fault. He made a deal with WB that he loudly trumped in the media so he must have been happy with it and if that deal means each album has different terms and conditions that means only WB will have interest in his material I suspect the deal was structed in this manner to stop estate managers from circumventing his wishes as a will might have been contested.

How can you contest or break a contract that may have given WB licensing rights forever for some of the albums if not all. Prince knew what he was doing at least as far as this deal was concerned.

[Edited 4/17/17 6:16am]

The Prince Online Museum is open today as tribute and in the 2013 web site development is a story by the man who designed this interim site. Asked "Do you have a memory with Prince that really stands out? he said,
"I have memories that always come back to me when I think of Paisley Park. The first week I was there, I setup my equipment in an unused video editing suite (right below Prince’s apartment). The room had not been used in a while and the heating was not working in there. I was working with my coat on when Prince came in and apologized about the temperature. He said he’d get me a space heater from upstairs until they got it fixed. 5 minutes later he walks in carrying a space heater! He plugs it in next to me and walks out. All the while I’m thinking – really? Did Prince just bring me a space heater from his apartment?"

Nice story. smile

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Reply #587 posted 04/23/17 12:35pm

cloveringold85

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nelcp777 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

It appears his attorney Crooked Cousins didnt tell him (nor follow through)

that the Judge approved a second DNA test.

eek

Sucks to be him. He had 2 attorneys. He will have to prove that his attorneys did not tell him.

I am still dumbfounded about the Jeffers claim and the Judge allowing it. It will be interesting (but probably not shocking) to see it play out. I am sure there is no evidence to support the slayer rule.

When all the frivolous claim and appeals are thrown out/done, we still have the Bremer fiasco for entertainment (trying to be silly).

.

The Judge denied that crooked Cousins claims that Prince owed him money. He missed the grace period to file and cannot file again.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #588 posted 04/23/17 7:56pm

moonsister

nelcp777 said:



laurarichardson said:




laurarichardson said:



Some of the business entities were in the original inventory sheets it looked some were inactive.





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Wanted to post the Love 4 One Another Charity information I found. I could not get the document to paste so I retyped it. I am not sure when all this took place but I believe he close Love 4 One Another right when M2 filled for divorce. Notice that he gave money to M2 charity and 10k to Kat Dyson.


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Kat Dyson – 10,000


Halo USA – 10,000


Jedevine Center For Autism 10,000


Marva N. Collins Preparatory School 10,000



Youth and Shelter Services, Inc 10,000



Children’s Coalition, Inc 7,000


L.A. Family Housing Donations 7,000


C-Space West Side Community Center $7,000



Peccole Ranch Lakes Kingdom Hall Fund 7,000



Minnesota Helps Bridge Disaster Fund $50,000



Urban Farming $45,000.00



In A Perfect World $50,000



Michael Rolfe Pancreatic Cancer Foundation $5,000



Hearts of Gold $1,000



Smitty Boykin $50,000.



The Missing Piece Foundation $5,000



Donors Choice $15, 000



GTC Turning Point $12,000



Education Gallery Group $12,000



Academy 331 $12,000



Interesting, Urban Farming is headed by Taja Sevelle. Just read an article on NbcNews:



http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/former-prince-prot-g-he-would-have-wanted-us-all-n749061



Interesting too is Smitty Boykin CEO is Eric Benet Jordan. Looks like Smitty Boykin is a NYC restaurant. Not exactly a not for profit, maybe a loan?
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Reply #589 posted 04/24/17 2:51am

Laydown

Okay_Player_has_a_timeline_of_all_events_concerning_Prince_legacy.Its_on_facebook_worthy_a_read.

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Reply #590 posted 04/24/17 2:57am

Laydown

The_estate_can_go_up_in_smoke_as_far_as_im_concerned.Warner_UMG_The_Estate.All_of_princes_relatives_and_anyone_else_trying_to_profit_from_his_death_can_get_fucked.Prince_and-his_music_will_live_on.Oh_and_fuck_the_Revolution_2.

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Reply #591 posted 04/24/17 5:47am

laurarichardso
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moonsister said:

nelcp777 said:

Interesting, Urban Farming is headed by Taja Sevelle. Just read an article on NbcNews:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/former-prince-prot-g-he-would-have-wanted-us-all-n749061

Interesting too is Smitty Boykin CEO is Eric Benet Jordan. Looks like Smitty Boykin is a NYC restaurant. Not exactly a not for profit, maybe a loan?

Could be the company that provided food for the tour or some catered event. Remember the money in this charity was his money. I know their was a mention of Comerica looking at loans that were made by the charity and remember he closed it down right when divorce #2 came.

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Reply #592 posted 04/24/17 5:49am

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Laydown said:

The_estate_can_go_up_in_smoke_as_far_as_im_concerned.Warner_UMG_The_Estate.All_of_princes_relatives_and_anyone_else_trying_to_profit_from_his_death_can_get_fucked.Prince_and-his_music_will_live_on.Oh_and_fuck_the_Revolution_2.

Please remember Prince signed the deal with WB so it is what he wanted. It may be in the end the only thing he wanted that stands if WB has licensing forever on the soundtracks. He gets to have his way on at least one thing.

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Reply #593 posted 04/24/17 6:40am

DD55

laurarichardson said:

moonsister said:

nelcp777 said: Interesting too is Smitty Boykin CEO is Eric Benet Jordan. Looks like Smitty Boykin is a NYC restaurant. Not exactly a not for profit, maybe a loan?

Could be the company that provided food for the tour or some catered event. Remember the money in this charity was his money. I know their was a mention of Comerica looking at loans that were made by the charity and remember he closed it down right when divorce #2 came.

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Reply #594 posted 04/24/17 8:38am

1Sasha

Are we talking about the Eric Benet here?

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Reply #595 posted 04/24/17 9:07am

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1Sasha said:

Are we talking about the Eric Benet here?


--Not sure what are the chances the CEO has the same name. I did not have a date for this sheet but I did find a JW message board that mentioned his donation to the JW donation in Vegas with a list of much larger amounts going from 2005-2007.

See link to message board.
https://www.jehovahs-witn...nce?page=2
Link to 2000 tax form showing more donations.
http://990s.foundationcen..._990PF.pdf
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Reply #596 posted 04/24/17 9:12am

1Sasha

Wikipedia says Eric's name is Eric Benet Jordan. And this group is getting Prince's money while Prince is still around?

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Reply #597 posted 04/24/17 9:15am

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1Sasha said:

Wikipedia says Eric's name is Eric Benet Jordan. And this group is getting Prince's money while Prince is still around?

Was this a business venture of Eric's that Prince supported before the divorce? I really cannot find a date for this sheet but it would be odd if it was after the divorce.

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Reply #598 posted 04/24/17 9:21am

1Sasha

Was M2 running the foundation then? And $50K happened to go to this place?

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Reply #599 posted 04/24/17 9:35am

DD55

moonsister said:

nelcp777 said:

Interesting, Urban Farming is headed by Taja Sevelle. Just read an article on NbcNews:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/former-prince-prot-g-he-would-have-wanted-us-all-n749061

Interesting too is Smitty Boykin CEO is Eric Benet Jordan. Looks like Smitty Boykin is a NYC restaurant. Not exactly a not for profit, maybe a loan?

The list is incomplete and incorrect. It's from the 2007 tax retrun and the Peccole Ranch lakes Kingdom hall fund was given 800,000, not 7K.

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