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Reply #30 posted 06/23/18 9:23pm

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kmama07 said:

poppys said:


They could have planned it if it was a cesarean birth, I have no idea. Either way, what a gorgeous family!

Totally. Hate to be a cynic about being born on that date, but planned c-section births are fairly common, especially of a prior child was born that way. i wouldn't be surprised if they went this route and picked the date themselves in honor of Prince.

Joshua made a video on Fathers day and gave an account of what happened..

He woke up in the early hours of the 7th and Hannah was in advanced labour.

He remarked..

Ok...well looks like this baby is really going to come TODAY !!!!!!!

[Edited 6/23/18 21:31pm]

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Reply #31 posted 06/24/18 4:33am

kmama07

Lovejunky said:



kmama07 said:


poppys said:



They could have planned it if it was a cesarean birth, I have no idea. Either way, what a gorgeous family!



Totally. Hate to be a cynic about being born on that date, but planned c-section births are fairly common, especially of a prior child was born that way. i wouldn't be surprised if they went this route and picked the date themselves in honor of Prince.

Joshua made a video on Fathers day and gave an account of what happened..


He woke up in the early hours of the 7th and Hannah was in advanced labour.


He remarked..


Ok...well looks like this baby is really going to come TODAY !!!!!

[Edited 6/23/18 21:31pm]


😀 Thank you
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Reply #32 posted 06/24/18 7:29am

poppys


Well that is nice! He was naturally born on Prince's birthday. Why not just call him Prince instead of King Prince? That's a lot to live up to.

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Reply #33 posted 06/24/18 8:02am

kmama07

poppys said:


Well that is nice! He was naturally born on Prince's birthday. Why not just call him Prince instead of King Prince? That's a lot to live up to.


No kidding!
Prince on its own is a lot to live up to! 😊
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Reply #34 posted 06/24/18 11:03am

TrivialPursuit

That is a stupid fucking name.

Y'all remember Tyka named her kids Sir and President.

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Reply #35 posted 06/25/18 5:59am

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That is a stupid fucking name.

Y'all remember Tyka named her kids Sir and President.


Maybe it's something in the water...

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Reply #36 posted 06/25/18 10:55am

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Lovejunky said:



kmama07 said:


poppys said:



They could have planned it if it was a cesarean birth, I have no idea. Either way, what a gorgeous family!



Totally. Hate to be a cynic about being born on that date, but planned c-section births are fairly common, especially of a prior child was born that way. i wouldn't be surprised if they went this route and picked the date themselves in honor of Prince.

Joshua made a video on Fathers day and gave an account of what happened..


He woke up in the early hours of the 7th and Hannah was in advanced labour.


He remarked..


Ok...well looks like this baby is really going to come TODAY !!!!!

[Edited 6/23/18 21:31pm]



Maybe the conception was planned for around early June.
Maybe not!
Either way, thanks for telling us about the natural birth!
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Reply #37 posted 06/25/18 10:58am

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I couldn’t think of two parents Prince would rather be Re-incarnated to!
nod biggrin

However I have felt that P reached that place where he doesn’t have to come back again.
So if it’s him, biggrin
He’d just be here to enjoy this earth. smile
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Reply #38 posted 06/27/18 9:20pm

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cool

There's no them...there's only us...
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Reply #39 posted 06/30/18 10:05pm

Latin

Joshua posted the following today:

"Reflecting... My wife was born on Prince’s father’s birthday. My son was born on Prince’s birthday. Connected forever, love you Bro. #Prince 💜"
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Reply #40 posted 07/01/18 10:12am

TrivialPursuit

Latin said:

Joshua posted the following today: "Reflecting... My wife was born on Prince’s father’s birthday. My son was born on Prince’s birthday. Connected forever, love you Bro. #Prince 💜"


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Reply #41 posted 07/01/18 5:19pm

206Michelle

kmama07 said:

poppys said:


Well that is nice! He was naturally born on Prince's birthday. Why not just call him Prince instead of King Prince? That's a lot to live up to.

No kidding! Prince on its own is a lot to live up to! 😊

I'm not a fan of the name Sovereign, but I really love the middle name Prince.

As Judith Hill said to detectives in Carver County (see below), Prince thought the Weltons "were like his kids" and "he really loved them to peices". While I don't know the Weltons personally, I really like them. My impression is that they brought Prince joy and were, more or less, his family at the end of his life. This man had serious trust issues, but he loved and trusted Josh and Hannah. They lived in a house that he owned and he was looking forward to being "Uncle Prince" to their daughter. I follow both J and H on social media and I love their faith, their love, and their outlooks on life.

.

I think it's a good thing that Josh and Hannah did not use Prince for the child's first name. Considering that J and H knew Prince and were a part of Prince's inner circle at the end of his life, I feel that giving their son the first name Prince would have been unfairly saddling their son with this huge legacy of having the same first name as one of the greatest musicians of the 20th century. It's one thing for a Prince fan to name their child Prince; it's quite another for members of his inner circle to do so. Using Prince as a middle name allows them to honor Prince while allowing their son to have his own identity.

.......

Interview with Judith Glory Hill

pp. 48-49

Unk: The Welton's. Do you know who they are?

JH: They're very .. yeah.

Unk: Okay tell me a little bit about them um their connection.

JH: Oh they're um well Hannah was his drummer..

Unk: Okay.

JH: .. and Joshua is ah did a lot of production in, on the records and was also auxiliary keyboardist in the show so they had a big role, they were very close to Prince. Prince liked them a lot. They .. he thought they were like his kids.

Unk: Okay.

JH: Yeah.

Unk: And .. any .. ever discussion, disparaging discussions between the other staff about them or concerns about them or..

JH: No I think it was difficult when Hannah decided to have a baby and that's when 3rdeyegirl kind of fell apart ..

Unk: ( Okay.

JH: .. and I know he really wanted 3rdeyegirl to continue but she felt like it was a time for her to .. to move on and .. or not move on, they were still living in the house and he really loved them to pieces so ..

Unk: Uh-hum.

JH: .. they were still very much involved even though 3rdeyegirl had kind of disbanded ..

Unk: Uh-hum.

JH: .. um but they were still very much a part of his life.

Unk: So did the Welton's live in a house that Prince owned?

JH: Uh-hum.

Unk: Okay ..

JH: They live next to Kirk, yeah they both ..

Unk: Oh they, they live next to Kirk, okay.

JH: .. their two houses are like this.

.

Source: http://www.documentcloud....l#text/p48

.......

EBONY: You’ve never had a producer. What made you choose Joshua Welton for Hit N Run: Phase One?

Prince: His faith in God really struck a nerve. And you know how you can just feel that something’s gonna work and it feels right, it’s a good fit? I knew the band was going to work, I knew the relationship with him was gonna work. I check people out now to see how faith-based they are and how real they are about it. That goes a long way, I gotta tell you. Because I can trust them. I can give him the key and don’t have to worry.

Deleted Dec 2015 Ebony interview. (Discussion Part II) - http://prince.org/msg/7/420939?pr

.......

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Reply #42 posted 07/01/18 8:01pm

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206Michelle said:

kmama07 said:

poppys said: No kidding! Prince on its own is a lot to live up to! 😊

I'm not a fan of the name Sovereign, but I really love the middle name Prince.

As Judith Hill said to detectives in Carver County (see below), Prince thought the Weltons "were like his kids" and "he really loved them to peices". While I don't know the Weltons personally, I really like them. My impression is that they brought Prince joy and were, more or less, his family at the end of his life. This man had serious trust issues, but he loved and trusted Josh and Hannah. They lived in a house that he owned and he was looking forward to being "Uncle Prince" to their daughter. I follow both J and H on social media and I love their faith, their love, and their outlooks on life.

.

I think it's a good thing that Josh and Hannah did not use Prince for the child's first name. Considering that J and H knew Prince and were a part of Prince's inner circle at the end of his life, I feel that giving their son the first name Prince would have been unfairly saddling their son with this huge legacy of having the same first name as one of the greatest musicians of the 20th century. It's one thing for a Prince fan to name their child Prince; it's quite another for members of his inner circle to do so. Using Prince as a middle name allows them to honor Prince while allowing their son to have his own identity.

.......

Interview with Judith Glory Hill

pp. 48-49

Unk: The Welton's. Do you know who they are?

JH: They're very .. yeah.

Unk: Okay tell me a little bit about them um their connection.

JH: Oh they're um well Hannah was his drummer..

Unk: Okay.

JH: .. and Joshua is ah did a lot of production in, on the records and was also auxiliary keyboardist in the show so they had a big role, they were very close to Prince. Prince liked them a lot. They .. he thought they were like his kids.

Unk: Okay.

JH: Yeah.

Unk: And .. any .. ever discussion, disparaging discussions between the other staff about them or concerns about them or..

JH: No I think it was difficult when Hannah decided to have a baby and that's when 3rdeyegirl kind of fell apart ..

Unk: ( Okay.

JH: .. and I know he really wanted 3rdeyegirl to continue but she felt like it was a time for her to .. to move on and .. or not move on, they were still living in the house and he really loved them to pieces so ..

Unk: Uh-hum.

JH: .. they were still very much involved even though 3rdeyegirl had kind of disbanded ..

Unk: Uh-hum.

JH: .. um but they were still very much a part of his life.

Unk: So did the Welton's live in a house that Prince owned?

JH: Uh-hum.

Unk: Okay ..

JH: They live next to Kirk, yeah they both ..

Unk: Oh they, they live next to Kirk, okay.

JH: .. their two houses are like this.

.

Source: http://www.documentcloud....l#text/p48

.......

EBONY: You’ve never had a producer. What made you choose Joshua Welton for Hit N Run: Phase One?

Prince: His faith in God really struck a nerve. And you know how you can just feel that something’s gonna work and it feels right, it’s a good fit? I knew the band was going to work, I knew the relationship with him was gonna work. I check people out now to see how faith-based they are and how real they are about it. That goes a long way, I gotta tell you. Because I can trust them. I can give him the key and don’t have to worry.

Deleted Dec 2015 Ebony interview. (Discussion Part II) - http://prince.org/msg/7/420939?pr

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It was NEVER no doubt to me that Prince really loved and cared about Joshua. He had NEVER let ANYONE produce ANY of his own albums or get credit for doing it. It's sad that Prince's fans NEVER accepted Joshua.

I remember when I attended one of Prince's last public appearances on The Arsenio Hall Show. Joshua was right there on stage dancing & playing keyboards with him. Prince wouldn't have had it any other way.

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #43 posted 07/01/18 8:53pm

206Michelle

ChocolateBox3121 said:



206Michelle said:




kmama07 said:


poppys said: No kidding! Prince on its own is a lot to live up to! 😊

I'm not a fan of the name Sovereign, but I really love the middle name Prince.



As Judith Hill said to detectives in Carver County (see below), Prince thought the Weltons "were like his kids" and "he really loved them to peices". While I don't know the Weltons personally, I really like them. My impression is that they brought Prince joy and were, more or less, his family at the end of his life. This man had serious trust issues, but he loved and trusted Josh and Hannah. They lived in a house that he owned and he was looking forward to being "Uncle Prince" to their daughter. I follow both J and H on social media and I love their faith, their love, and their outlooks on life.


.


I think it's a good thing that Josh and Hannah did not use Prince for the child's first name. Considering that J and H knew Prince and were a part of Prince's inner circle at the end of his life, I feel that giving their son the first name Prince would have been unfairly saddling their son with this huge legacy of having the same first name as one of the greatest musicians of the 20th century. It's one thing for a Prince fan to name their child Prince; it's quite another for members of his inner circle to do so. Using Prince as a middle name allows them to honor Prince while allowing their son to have his own identity.


.....


Interview with Judith Glory Hill


pp. 48-49


Unk: The Welton's. Do you know who they are?


JH: They're very .. yeah.


Unk: Okay tell me a little bit about them um their connection.


JH: Oh they're um well Hannah was his drummer..


Unk: Okay.


JH: .. and Joshua is ah did a lot of production in, on the records and was also auxiliary keyboardist in the show so they had a big role, they were very close to Prince. Prince liked them a lot. They .. he thought they were like his kids.


Unk: Okay.


JH: Yeah.


Unk: And .. any .. ever discussion, disparaging discussions between the other staff about them or concerns about them or..


JH: No I think it was difficult when Hannah decided to have a baby and that's when 3rdeyegirl kind of fell apart ..


Unk: ( Okay.


JH: .. and I know he really wanted 3rdeyegirl to continue but she felt like it was a time for her to .. to move on and .. or not move on, they were still living in the house and he really loved them to pieces so ..


Unk: Uh-hum.


JH: .. they were still very much involved even though 3rdeyegirl had kind of disbanded ..


Unk: Uh-hum.


JH: .. um but they were still very much a part of his life.


Unk: So did the Welton's live in a house that Prince owned?


JH: Uh-hum.


Unk: Okay ..


JH: They live next to Kirk, yeah they both ..


Unk: Oh they, they live next to Kirk, okay.


JH: .. their two houses are like this.


.


Source: http://www.documentcloud....l#text/p48


.....


EBONY: You’ve never had a producer. What made you choose Joshua Welton for Hit N Run: Phase One?

Prince: His faith in God really struck a nerve. And you know how you can just feel that something’s gonna work and it feels right, it’s a good fit? I knew the band was going to work, I knew the relationship with him was gonna work. I check people out now to see how faith-based they are and how real they are about it. That goes a long way, I gotta tell you. Because I can trust them. I can give him the key and don’t have to worry.


Deleted Dec 2015 Ebony interview. (Discussion Part II) - http://prince.org/msg/7/420939?pr


.....



It was NEVER no doubt to me that Prince really loved and cared about Joshua. He had NEVER let ANYONE produce ANY of his own albums or get credit for doing it. It's sad that Prince's fans NEVER accepted Joshua.



I remember when I attended one of Prince's last public appearances on The Arsenio Hall Show. Joshua was right there on stage dancing & playing keyboards with him. Prince wouldn't have had it any other way.


I totally agree with you, ChocolateBox.
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The production credit for HNR is significant, for sure. To me, what speaks the most volume is the credit that Joshua Welton (initials JW, coincidentally, given that Prince was a JW) received for remastering Purple Rain. PR is Prince’s best-known album, and, arguably, his magnum opus. P could have remastered PR himself, but he let Josh remaster PR. Josh was in his 20s when he remastered PR and he was not a well-known producer. I am convinced that Prince gave Joshua credit because he respected Josh as a musician and also thought of him like a son. I estimate that the production and remastering credits were a bequest of sorts in that these credits were Prince’s way of taking care of the Weltons in the long term. P did not make a will, but he took care of those whom he loved, like the Weltons.
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Reply #44 posted 07/02/18 6:36pm

Vashtix

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Prince absolutely adored Joshua & Hannah. They were like the family he never had.

They are strong Christians too- they have a very powerful things to share about life

I like that about them. Glad to know because as we know one of his dearest friends was also a strong Christian and had strong convictions too. Says alot about what was dear to Prince. dove heart

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Reply #45 posted 07/02/18 7:07pm

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206Michelle said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

It was NEVER no doubt to me that Prince really loved and cared about Joshua. He had NEVER let ANYONE produce ANY of his own albums or get credit for doing it. It's sad that Prince's fans NEVER accepted Joshua.

I remember when I attended one of Prince's last public appearances on The Arsenio Hall Show. Joshua was right there on stage dancing & playing keyboards with him. Prince wouldn't have had it any other way.

I totally agree with you, ChocolateBox. . The production credit for HNR is significant, for sure. To me, what speaks the most volume is the credit that Joshua Welton (initials JW, coincidentally, given that Prince was a JW) received for remastering Purple Rain. PR is Prince’s best-known album, and, arguably, his magnum opus. P could have remastered PR himself, but he let Josh remaster PR. Josh was in his 20s when he remastered PR and he was not a well-known producer. I am convinced that Prince gave Joshua credit because he respected Josh as a musician and also thought of him like a son. I estimate that the production and remastering credits were a bequest of sorts in that these credits were Prince’s way of taking care of the Weltons in the long term. P did not make a will, but he took care of those whom he loved, like the Weltons.

yes

nod

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #46 posted 07/02/18 7:10pm

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Vashtix said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Prince absolutely adored Joshua & Hannah. They were like the family he never had.

They are strong Christians too- they have a very powerful things to share about life

I like that about them. Glad to know because as we know one of his dearest friends was also a strong Christian and had strong convictions too. Says alot about what was dear to Prince. dove heart

yes

He loved Larry also at one point.

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #47 posted 07/02/18 9:30pm

Vashtix

Latin said:

Joshua posted the following today: "Reflecting... My wife was born on Prince’s father’s birthday. My son was born on Prince’s birthday. Connected forever, love you Bro. #Prince 💜"

Awww. . .Love the Weltons- The Universe speaks

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