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Thread started 02/22/18 10:35am

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Jill Jones FB post

Anyone see this post for JJ's FB page (2/19)?? ... she allegedly made the following comment:

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Through the years since the passing of Prince, I have encountered many who have befriended me on fb. Some have come , looking for answers, some have come with many questions. Some have come in Peace and some have come for War.


I have entertained many. At times, in my grief, I too had questions. I also had curiosities and theories surrounding the mystery of his untimely demise.


Some held the answers to some of my questions. Some provided stories to fill in the gaps of the years when I was not intimately involved in his life through the years.


I vetted many. I doubted many. I am not so trusting as I might appear.


I cross referenced and have interrogated those who have found ways to extract simple meaningless encounters and blown them up into conjecture and speculation and assumptions.

I weighed the character of those who through the years formed alliances and branded their importance in hierarchies. From the fan bases thru to the colleagues. I have Listened to those claiming to be “ in the know” or bystanders who witnessed or participated in “ the fall”. AND DID NOTHING. And will speak nothing openly.


And through all of these extraneous encounters he had, for those that claimed to be present , I have deduced that type of fame is a lonely existence. And the accoutrements that come with it are meh.


I feel He is in a much better place. Because truthfully, I am not sure what he had here on planet earth was worth anything to keep him here longer than he stayed.


So, that being said, I have found my resolve. And this page and it’s belief systems are mine. Mine alone.


I sent someone packing today on my page. One who professed to have a certain knowledge of him and situations. Almost as if that would create or align me to them. In fact, it did the opposite. It just made me sad that he had to encounter some types of people in his life. Very sad for him.

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Reply #1 posted 02/22/18 10:48am

ThatWhiteDude

Seems like a reaction to Apple's post..... I don't know. confused

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Reply #2 posted 02/22/18 11:20am

rogifan

I wish they would all stop with the I know who’s real, who’s fake BS. Why should anybody trust Jill who wasn’t around since like forever? Then it just becomes is she telling me what I want to hear and if so then she’s legit. Meh.
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Reply #3 posted 02/22/18 1:00pm

luvsexy4all

"the fall" ???

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Reply #4 posted 02/22/18 1:17pm

cloveringold85

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I feel He is in a much better place. Because truthfully, I am not sure what he had here on planet earth was worth anything to keep him here longer than he stayed.

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I tend to agree. nod

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #5 posted 02/22/18 1:18pm

anangellooksdo
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luvsexy4all said:

"the fall" ???



She put that in quotation marks, so it’s not her term.
We’ve heard people use it before.

I wonder, when was the last time JJ talked to Prince, before Vanity’s funeral?
I also wonder what dies she mean by, he didn’t have much to stay here for? I guess he wasn’t in a relationship, at least not that Jill thinks.
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Reply #6 posted 02/22/18 1:39pm

donnyenglish

From The Breakdown.
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Reply #7 posted 02/22/18 1:40pm

luvsexy4all

certain types he encountered? who ?

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Reply #8 posted 02/22/18 1:56pm

pinkcashmere23

luvsexy4all said:

certain types he encountered? who ?

I remember after he passed she mentioned that she had been concerned about some of the young women who were around him at the time.Interesting post.

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Reply #9 posted 02/22/18 2:01pm

Vashtix

anangellooksdown said:

luvsexy4all said:

"the fall" ???

She put that in quotation marks, so it’s not her term. We’ve heard people use it before. I wonder, when was the last time JJ talked to Prince, before Vanity’s funeral? I also wonder what dies she mean by, he didn’t have much to stay here for? I guess he wasn’t in a relationship, at least not that Jill thinks.

He was tired and ready to go . . . he went on his own terms what was of value to him was not on this earth any longer. I think Prince always had friendships/relationships but not as deep as these women and the media and associates want to think. Reading about them and what these women say it was wash-rinse-repeat. They took as more - he sounds like the Great Romantic.

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I will always believe there was public Prince/private Prince/secret Prince. These women got public/private.

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Just my opinion .

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Reply #10 posted 02/22/18 2:08pm

WeDaBest

anangellooksdown said:

luvsexy4all said:

"the fall" ???

She put that in quotation marks, so it’s not her term. We’ve heard people use it before. I wonder, when was the last time JJ talked to Prince, before Vanity’s funeral? I also wonder what dies she mean by, he didn’t have much to stay here for? I guess he wasn’t in a relationship, at least not that Jill thinks.

I believe JJ talked to Prince after Vanity's funeral with Susan & Brenda. I can't recall if Apollonia was there or not. I remember Jill spoke of her daughter being in the music biz and Prince volunteered to help her out and she was planning to contact him again about that in the next few weeks

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Reply #11 posted 02/22/18 2:12pm

anangellooksdo
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Vashtix said:



anangellooksdown said:


luvsexy4all said:

"the fall" ???



She put that in quotation marks, so it’s not her term. We’ve heard people use it before. I wonder, when was the last time JJ talked to Prince, before Vanity’s funeral? I also wonder what dies she mean by, he didn’t have much to stay here for? I guess he wasn’t in a relationship, at least not that Jill thinks.

He was tired and ready to go . . . he went on his own terms what was of value to him was not on this earth any longer. I think Prince always had friendships/relationships but not as deep as these women and the media and associates want to think. Reading about them and what these women say it was wash-rinse-repeat. They took as more - he sounds like the Great Romantic.


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I will always believe there was public Prince/private Prince/secret Prince. These women got public/private.


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Just my opinion .



Very possible Vashtix. I get the feeling he was really alone.
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Reply #12 posted 02/22/18 2:14pm

anangellooksdo
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WeDaBest said:



anangellooksdown said:


luvsexy4all said:

"the fall" ???



She put that in quotation marks, so it’s not her term. We’ve heard people use it before. I wonder, when was the last time JJ talked to Prince, before Vanity’s funeral? I also wonder what dies she mean by, he didn’t have much to stay here for? I guess he wasn’t in a relationship, at least not that Jill thinks.

I believe JJ talked to Prince after Vanity's funeral with Susan & Brenda. I can't recall if Apollonia was there or not. I remember Jill spoke of her daughter being in the music biz and Prince volunteered to help her out and she was planning to contact him again about that in the next few weeks



I thought that was all at the funeral. I could be wrong though.
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Reply #13 posted 02/22/18 2:22pm

WeDaBest

anangellooksdown said:

WeDaBest said:

I believe JJ talked to Prince after Vanity's funeral with Susan & Brenda. I can't recall if Apollonia was there or not. I remember Jill spoke of her daughter being in the music biz and Prince volunteered to help her out and she was planning to contact him again about that in the next few weeks

I thought that was all at the funeral. I could be wrong though.

You are correct, it was at the funeral....I just meant after the service

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Reply #14 posted 02/22/18 2:32pm

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When was the last time she had spoken with him prior to Denise’s funeral?
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Reply #15 posted 02/22/18 2:49pm

Vashtix

anangellooksdown said:

Vashtix said:

He was tired and ready to go . . . he went on his own terms what was of value to him was not on this earth any longer. I think Prince always had friendships/relationships but not as deep as these women and the media and associates want to think. Reading about them and what these women say it was wash-rinse-repeat. They took as more - he sounds like the Great Romantic.

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I will always believe there was public Prince/private Prince/secret Prince. These women got public/private.

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Just my opinion .

Very possible Vashtix. I get the feeling he was really alone.

Tamron Hall said she talked to him every-single-day so . . . I think he had friends.

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Reply #16 posted 02/22/18 3:00pm

WeDaBest

anangellooksdown said:

When was the last time she had spoken with him prior to Denise’s funeral?

I read on the org that she was at the Oakland concert. Not sure if that was the last time she spoke to him prior to the funeral though.

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Reply #17 posted 02/22/18 3:08pm

malbena

Unfortunately, she has lost credibility. Her rants against too many people have backfired.

This could also be another cryptic message to encourage gossip, attention drawing, and to stop tearing Apples apart on the other thread.
This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money.
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Reply #18 posted 02/22/18 3:35pm

cloveringold85

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Vashtix said:

anangellooksdown said:

luvsexy4all said: She put that in quotation marks, so it’s not her term. We’ve heard people use it before. I wonder, when was the last time JJ talked to Prince, before Vanity’s funeral? I also wonder what dies she mean by, he didn’t have much to stay here for? I guess he wasn’t in a relationship, at least not that Jill thinks.

He was tired and ready to go . . . he went on his own terms what was of value to him was not on this earth any longer. I think Prince always had friendships/relationships but not as deep as these women and the media and associates want to think. Reading about them and what these women say it was wash-rinse-repeat. They took as more - he sounds like the Great Romantic.

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I will always believe there was public Prince/private Prince/secret Prince. These women got public/private.

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Just my opinion .

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Yes, and it wouldn't be a stretch to say that Prince had some pretty shitty people around him....a lot of wolves in sheep clothing. Prince was only human, like the rest of us.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #19 posted 02/22/18 3:38pm

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Vashtix said:

anangellooksdown said:

Vashtix said: Very possible Vashtix. I get the feeling he was really alone.

Tamron Hall said she talked to him every-single-day so . . . I think he had friends.

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Yes, he had a few friends he would talk to regularly, but in his last years on this earth, he really was alone; he did not have a partner in life--someone he could love. Love is really all that matters in this world. We come into this world with no clothes on our backs, and no material possessions, and that is how we leave it.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #20 posted 02/22/18 3:50pm

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I thought he had his faith and his god which would mean he was never alone, and that was what was most important to him...maybe he didn't have lots of friends and lovers because that life style got tired and old...just because you do not have a spouse does not mean you are pitiful and needy, some people enjoy that kind of freedom...
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Reply #21 posted 02/22/18 3:52pm

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

I thought he had his faith and his god which would mean he was never alone, and that was what was most important to him...maybe he didn't have lots of friends and lovers because that life style got tired and old...just because you do not have a spouse does not mean you are pitiful and needy, some people enjoy that kind of freedom...

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That is true, but Prince was a romantic at heart. God did not put us on this earth to be alone. You don't think he longed to be in love?

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Without love, it ain't much.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #22 posted 02/22/18 3:58pm

Vashtix

cloveringold85 said:

Vashtix said:

Tamron Hall said she talked to him every-single-day so . . . I think he had friends.

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Yes, he had a few friends he would talk to regularly, but in his last years on this earth, he really was alone; he did not have a partner in life--someone he could love. Love is really all that matters in this world. We come into this world with no clothes on our backs, and no material possessions, and that is how we leave it.

He did not have a partner the public knew about or associates even- we do not know what Prince had-

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I think he lived a fulfilling life. I do not see him as sad and hate these documentaries spinning that tale.

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I think He had a partner(s) in life- I think he had a person who he trusted and was his person- I am not talking sex either and someone mature and on his level spiritually.

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Reply #23 posted 02/22/18 4:11pm

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Jill can be as opportunistic as the rest of them, but this post just sounds sad and compassionate towards Prince. Its a sad state of affairs when people forget to put themselves in the shoes of teh famous person they are infatuated with, but that being said, grief can make you see only the negative in people and to lose faith in people. I am no more than a fan but there are times when I think everyone around Prince was self=serving, calculating and full of shit (and Prince was as well) and then there are other times when I think most of them did the best they could to balance their obsession with their careers, his fame, the work, his art, and his money with genuine consideration for the man living in the center of all that whilst protecting their own hearts from a man whose own issues didn't allow him to be possessed by any one woman. Jill probably needs to rethink such generalized statements about Prince and everyone around him. The truth is probably in the grey area but I do think that some of the things she says can't just be brushed over. All these people need to self evaluate--not just evaluate Prince (what he did wrong, what he die right) and those around him, but also themselves as well. No one is above reproach (not one of them--including Prince) but ultimately they are all still just people with varying, contrasting and complicated emotional and internal lives. People are a hot mess but I reckon that most of them are NOT evil sociopaths (Prince included)

[Edited 2/22/18 17:07pm]

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Reply #24 posted 02/22/18 5:00pm

pinkcashmere23

cloveringold85 said:

Vashtix said:

Tamron Hall said she talked to him every-single-day so . . . I think he had friends.

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Yes, he had a few friends he would talk to regularly, but in his last years on this earth, he really was alone; he did not have a partner in life--someone he could love. Love is really all that matters in this world. We come into this world with no clothes on our backs, and no material possessions, and that is how we leave it.

During the P&M shows he seemed to be reflecting on love lost and failed relationships and he seemed almost melancholy at times.He also often mentioned the movie The Way We Were.He didn't talk like he did when he was in a seemingly happy relationship I agree.

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Reply #25 posted 02/22/18 5:24pm

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Vashtix said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Yes, he had a few friends he would talk to regularly, but in his last years on this earth, he really was alone; he did not have a partner in life--someone he could love. Love is really all that matters in this world. We come into this world with no clothes on our backs, and no material possessions, and that is how we leave it.

He did not have a partner the public knew about or associates even- we do not know what Prince had-

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I think he lived a fulfilling life. I do not see him as sad and hate these documentaries spinning that tale.

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I think He had a partner(s) in life- I think he had a person who he trusted and was his person- I am not talking sex either and someone mature and on his level spiritually.

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I'm sure he got sad, just like the rest of us do. Losing his Son and two failed marriages is an unbelievably difficult thing to go through--not to mention, all the other female relationships he had over the years.

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He spoke to Tamron Hall a lot, and he was very fond of her. I think he could confide in Denise because they knew each other so well.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #26 posted 02/22/18 5:26pm

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pinkcashmere23 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Yes, he had a few friends he would talk to regularly, but in his last years on this earth, he really was alone; he did not have a partner in life--someone he could love. Love is really all that matters in this world. We come into this world with no clothes on our backs, and no material possessions, and that is how we leave it.

During the P&M shows he seemed to be reflecting on love lost and failed relationships and he seemed almost melancholy at times.He also often mentioned the movie The Way We Were.He didn't talk like he did when he was in a seemingly happy relationship I agree.

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Yes, a lot of people said he was very emotional during P&M. Losing Denise probably made him reflect a lot on his life. It was a side of him that we didn't get to see, until the very end. So sad. sad

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #27 posted 02/22/18 5:50pm

pinkcashmere23

cloveringold85 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

During the P&M shows he seemed to be reflecting on love lost and failed relationships and he seemed almost melancholy at times.He also often mentioned the movie The Way We Were.He didn't talk like he did when he was in a seemingly happy relationship I agree.

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Yes, a lot of people said he was very emotional during P&M. Losing Denise probably made him reflect a lot on his life. It was a side of him that we didn't get to see, until the very end. So sad. sad

I read that he would sometimes leave the stage and come back explaining to the audience how emotional some of the songs were for him to play.At one of the shows at PP he said,"I think I've got her out of my system now"Someone was definitely on his mind.He was being unusually open.

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Reply #28 posted 02/22/18 6:32pm

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Unfortunately, she has lost credibility. Her rants against too many people have backfired. This could also be another cryptic message to encourage gossip, attention drawing, and to stop tearing Apples apart on the other thread.

I wonder how she feels about Apollonia who supported the Revolution shows from day one and continued to go to them

And now Jerome being back with the Family (ie Susannah)

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Reply #29 posted 02/22/18 6:36pm

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When was the last time she had spoken with him prior to Denise’s funeral?

1990

I used to think that Prince and I would have been friends during the duration, during our whole lives. Because we had a really strong friendship... You can be with people for 10, 12 years, it's phases of your life, you just close the book and you just put it on the shelf. So, it's so bizarre when people ask anything about him, it was just a phase in my life. It's nothing in particular, it's just my point of view of certain phase in my life. It's always in retrospect. I used to say, when I got older, if I was on the Swiss Alps and I was milking cows, there would be somebody that would come across the hill that asked about Prince!

The second album... My mother passed away in '95. When she was diagnosed in cancer in '94, I had a deal with London Records. Steve Fargnoli hooked me up with them. My contract expired with Prince in 1993 on April 15... which I remember because it was seven years to the day. When my mom passed...I didn't want to sing. I don't think I handled it as professionally as I should have. I wrote a letter to my manager that said “You're just too busy going through the corporate world, because you don't know what the fuck you're doing.” And I faxed it. And we were dropped... I (later) recorded (the album Two) with Chris Bruce and it was cathartic. I had a new boyfriend at the time and that was a nightmare. (I) just had to get it all out. That record came and it was supposed to come. (The song) "Gorgeous Wonder" is about my daughter and she just saved me in so many ways. I just ended up going into interior design through friends. It was very trying and tricky. I remember (one time) that I was bartending and the RZA (from the Wu-Tang Clan) came in and said “you're Jill Jones” and I was like “No, I don't understand” and I pretended like I was French. Don't let your pride swallow you up...because that is a mistake. Everything's fixable and your good friends would never make you feel bad about it...

Ten years. Ten Years (emphasis added). Wasted. Yeah, ten years wasted. And I don't think fondly of these ten years, the ten years that I'm thinking of... But, I got a good song out of it.

I want to know how to stop over analyzing and to kind of just not take things so personally anymore.

http://beautifulnightschitown.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-question-of-u-jill-jones-talks-2.html

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