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Reply #30 posted 08/22/17 10:57am

mediumdry

laurarichardson said:

jungleluv said:

I hate it when Singers bring politics into music. The fact is Sheila hasn't made any good music since the 1980's. All of her best work was her first 3 albums and her collaborations with Prince. This cover version/interpretation is a mess.

Because singers are not citizens or voters! Do you realize how that sounds?

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A rare case of me agreeing with you, laurarichardson cool

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Everyone should be free to express themselves the way they want. That means that some will express political opinions. I feel that music is a perfect vehicle for any type of expression.

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Now, that doesn't mean I particularly like Sheila E.'s opinion or the way she expresses it. I'm quite interested to hear this new album, but since I didn't pre-order, I'll have to wait a little bit longer. The two covers that have been released this far did not excite me. (and I have never liked any rendition of the star spangled banner (Hendrix included), nationalism is bad, mmkay?)

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Of all the reasons to criticise this album, expression a political opinion should be very low on the list, imo.

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Reply #31 posted 08/22/17 11:10am

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jungleluv said:

I hate it when Singers bring politics into music. The fact is Sheila hasn't made any good music since the 1980's. All of her best work was her first 3 albums and her collaborations with Prince. This cover version/interpretation is a mess.

I was thinking this exact thing, jungleluv. I really don't feel Sheila fits this "political activist" role very well. It doesn't feel believable, to me. Not saying she is disingenuous.....I'm simply not buying into this new image.



Yes, leave all political thought and opinion to the professionals.

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― T.S. Eliot

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Reply #32 posted 08/22/17 1:28pm

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laurarichardson said:

EmmaMcG said:



I don't understand the point you're trying to make by bringing up that it's a cover of James Brown and that funk is the cornerstone of the minneapolis sound. That doesn't automatically mean that the song is any good. Like I said, I appreciate the message but I think a better song could have been chosen to convey it. Or it could have been performed better.

As for the video, I know it's got a small budget but that doesn't mean they had to make it LOOK like it had a small budget. As it is, it's corny, cliché ridden nonsense that only really serves to detract from the central message of the song.

The cover sounds like the original so I guess you do not like JB because I cannot figure out how you are a fan of the man's music. It looks like it was made on small budget because it was and people marching in the street matches what the song is about.

I agree. I think if it was too flashy, and over-produced, the messsge in the song and vid would have been lost. The video shows the demographics of today's America, and the current, socio-political climate America is in. Americans from various racial/ethnic groups matching together in the name of unity. The message in the vid comes across clearly.
'Trump voters got Hoodwinked by Trump' popcorn coke
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Reply #33 posted 08/23/17 4:29am

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mediumdry said:

laurarichardson said:

Because singers are not citizens or voters! Do you realize how that sounds?

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A rare case of me agreeing with you, laurarichardson cool

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Everyone should be free to express themselves the way they want. That means that some will express political opinions. I feel that music is a perfect vehicle for any type of expression.

.

Now, that doesn't mean I particularly like Sheila E.'s opinion or the way she expresses it. I'm quite interested to hear this new album, but since I didn't pre-order, I'll have to wait a little bit longer. The two covers that have been released this far did not excite me. (and I have never liked any rendition of the star spangled banner (Hendrix included), nationalism is bad, mmkay?)

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Of all the reasons to criticise this album, expression a political opinion should be very low on the list, imo.

Thank you. We are in the mess we are in right now in America because too many people are sitting on their butts and not speaking out.

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Reply #34 posted 08/23/17 2:11pm

anthonyspeaks

jungleluv said:

I hate it when Singers bring politics into music. The fact is Sheila hasn't made any good music since the 1980's. All of her best work was her first 3 albums and her collaborations with Prince. This cover version/interpretation is a mess.

R U serious. Sheila's best work was in the 80's? Obviously you stopped listeneing after the 80's because i feel like she did her best work after that period, not to say that she didn't do great work in the 80's but Sex Cymbal and the E-Train albums were definite progressions from the 80's material. Sheila is one of the few Prince associates to have great material and a strong name and presence in the music industry BEFORE and AFTER working with Prince. As for this single and video, i get the song conceptually(and it ain't no MPLS sound, it's JB) and the video concept is timely and i actually come away with a new appreciation for the opening monologue.

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Reply #35 posted 08/24/17 8:19am

MacDaddy

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You can listen to some of the tracks and hear Sheila talk about the new album on Brigade-Radio_One

Listen here

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Reply #36 posted 08/24/17 11:55am

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anthonyspeaks said:

jungleluv said:

I hate it when Singers bring politics into music. The fact is Sheila hasn't made any good music since the 1980's. All of her best work was her first 3 albums and her collaborations with Prince. This cover version/interpretation is a mess.

R U serious. Sheila's best work was in the 80's? Obviously you stopped listeneing after the 80's because i feel like she did her best work after that period, not to say that she didn't do great work in the 80's but Sex Cymbal and the E-Train albums were definite progressions from the 80's material. Sheila is one of the few Prince associates to have great material and a strong name and presence in the music industry BEFORE and AFTER working with Prince. As for this single and video, i get the song conceptually(and it ain't no MPLS sound, it's JB) and the video concept is timely and i actually come away with a new appreciation for the opening monologue.

The E-train band she had was excellent and Prince respected her decisions enough that she was a talent scout for him. In addition, this was a pledge project and she was able to get enough of the public to help pay for the making of the CD and actually get it out.

This is exactly the kind of thing Prince was about and it is unfortunate that other associates can't pull this off.

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Reply #37 posted 08/29/17 12:45pm

jungleluv

anthonyspeaks said:

jungleluv said:

I hate it when Singers bring politics into music. The fact is Sheila hasn't made any good music since the 1980's. All of her best work was her first 3 albums and her collaborations with Prince. This cover version/interpretation is a mess.

R U serious. Sheila's best work was in the 80's? Obviously you stopped listeneing after the 80's because i feel like she did her best work after that period, not to say that she didn't do great work in the 80's but Sex Cymbal and the E-Train albums were definite progressions from the 80's material. Sheila is one of the few Prince associates to have great material and a strong name and presence in the music industry BEFORE and AFTER working with Prince. As for this single and video, i get the song conceptually(and it ain't no MPLS sound, it's JB) and the video concept is timely and i actually come away with a new appreciation for the opening monologue.

Her Sex Cymbal album was bland and sounds really dated if u listen to it now.

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Reply #38 posted 09/01/17 4:29pm

SheilaE4Ever

In terms of the album, I was torn because as you can tell by my name, I love Sheila E. but I hate covers. And even the clips and one off videos here and there left me cold. But listening to the album in it's entirety is quite an experience. The musicianship is excellent, and of course the message is on point. She stays fairly true to the original vibes of each of the tracks selected. I encourage you not to judge this project based on clips or the videos she's released but as a whole. It really does work well and it may be her strongest project since her Paisley days.

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Reply #39 posted 09/01/17 9:49pm

MacDaddy

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SheilaE4Ever said:

In terms of the album, I was torn because as you can tell by my name, I love Sheila E. but I hate covers. And even the clips and one off videos here and there left me cold. But listening to the album in it's entirety is quite an experience. The musicianship is excellent, and of course the message is on point. She stays fairly true to the original vibes of each of the tracks selected. I encourage you not to judge this project based on clips or the videos she's released but as a whole. It really does work well and it may be her strongest project since her Paisley days.

I agree.

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Reply #40 posted 09/02/17 3:22am

mediumdry

now that the album is out, I listened to it as a whole. While the musicianship is fine, there's a few things that stand out. For one, she doesn't make the songs her own. Hardly anything adds to the songs. It's a bit like listening to a cover band (but a high quality cover band).

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Second problem I have is the mix. There's no oomph! It's like the took an equalizer and turned down half of the lower frequency sliders. Wasn't this supposed to be funk? If it's Bootsy playing on the James Brown medley.. you can hardly hear him, and certainly can't feel him!

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So... a somewhat anemic assortment of covers that don't add much. It'd be nice as a tribute concert, but whoever mixed and mastered this should take a class with the guy...m vulfpeck. (look through the presentation, just listen to the sound difference)

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Reply #41 posted 09/03/17 5:08pm

SoulAlive

it's on Spotify now

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Reply #42 posted 09/04/17 1:52am

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MacDaddy said:

FINAL TRACKLIST INCLUDING PLEDGE BONUS TRACK
1) Message 2 America
2) Come Together – Revolution
3) Everyday People
4) Inner City Blues – Trouble Man
5) It Starts With Us
6) Jesus Children Of America
7) James Brown Medley
8) Blackbird
9) One Nation Under A Groove – Mothership Connection
10) Pusherman
11) Respect Yourself
12) I Am Funky
13) Yes We Can Can
14) America – Free
15) What The World Needs Now Is Love

  • Bonus Track ******************
    16) The Ghetto (downloadable only

Which service does provide song 16?

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Reply #43 posted 09/04/17 6:00pm

databank

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I can't recall what JB song was used there, can anyone help? Thx wink

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Reply #44 posted 09/05/17 12:15am

mediumdry

What JB song was used where? There's quite a few on the album...

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You probably mean Doing It To Death though, aka Funky Good Time.

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[Edited 9/5/17 0:22am]

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Reply #45 posted 09/05/17 1:07am

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spaceboy said:

MacDaddy said:

FINAL TRACKLIST INCLUDING PLEDGE BONUS TRACK
1) Message 2 America
2) Come Together – Revolution
3) Everyday People
4) Inner City Blues – Trouble Man
5) It Starts With Us
6) Jesus Children Of America
7) James Brown Medley
8) Blackbird
9) One Nation Under A Groove – Mothership Connection
10) Pusherman
11) Respect Yourself
12) I Am Funky
13) Yes We Can Can
14) America – Free
15) What The World Needs Now Is Love

  • Bonus Track ******************
    16) The Ghetto (downloadable only

Which service does provide song 16?

The bonus track is available to anyone who pledged via PledgeMusic.com

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Reply #46 posted 09/05/17 2:37am

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MacDaddy said:

spaceboy said:

Which service does provide song 16?

The bonus track is available to anyone who pledged via PledgeMusic.com

Ok thanks. I missed that and it is closed now.

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Reply #47 posted 09/05/17 6:07am

databank

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mediumdry said:

What JB song was used where? There's quite a few on the album...

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You probably mean Doing It To Death though, aka Funky Good Time.

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[Edited 9/5/17 0:22am]

Yes that was the one smile Thx smile

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Reply #48 posted 09/06/17 8:48am

jamesholver

Yeah, that is really great video)

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Reply #49 posted 09/06/17 10:39am

morningsong

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Thanks Shelia. I'm enjoying the album.

“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
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Reply #50 posted 09/08/17 7:39am

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anthonyspeaks said:

jungleluv said:

I hate it when Singers bring politics into music. The fact is Sheila hasn't made any good music since the 1980's. All of her best work was her first 3 albums and her collaborations with Prince. This cover version/interpretation is a mess.

R U serious. Sheila's best work was in the 80's? Obviously you stopped listeneing after the 80's because i feel like she did her best work after that period, not to say that she didn't do great work in the 80's but Sex Cymbal and the E-Train albums were definite progressions from the 80's material. Sheila is one of the few Prince associates to have great material and a strong name and presence in the music industry BEFORE and AFTER working with Prince. As for this single and video, i get the song conceptually(and it ain't no MPLS sound, it's JB) and the video concept is timely and i actually come away with a new appreciation for the opening monologue.

I don't think her albums after Prince were really good.
I did buy Sex Cymbal, but it lacked some kind of electricity...

the more latter albums like the one released a few years ago was really not good at all.

But this album I like. But it is an album of covers.

Sheila E is a great performer.

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
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Reply #51 posted 09/08/17 12:05pm

mediumdry

this album is a bit like the E-Train albums. Well played fusion that's dangerously close to muzak.. Was nice to see her play Stephen Colberts show with multiple songs (although all that was shown was the intro/outro of songs).

She sounded good with the house band.

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Reply #52 posted 09/15/17 8:07am

Latin

Here is a new Sheila E. video entitled "ICONIC Album - Preview":

https://m.youtube.com/wat...9TfOjBYf_k
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Reply #53 posted 09/15/17 9:42am

Latin

Here is "ICONIC - Yes We Can - Preview":

https://m.youtube.com/wat...d5eSJHyDQI
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Reply #54 posted 09/15/17 9:44am

Latin

Here is "Respect Yourself - Preview":

https://m.youtube.com/wat...T2VvvzYx-c
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Reply #55 posted 09/16/17 9:30am

Latin

Here is another new video Sheila E. has posted entitled "Sheila E. - Message 4 America":

https://m.youtube.com/wat...vZxGUYHUSg
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Reply #56 posted 09/16/17 1:06pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:



anthonyspeaks said:




jungleluv said:


I hate it when Singers bring politics into music. The fact is Sheila hasn't made any good music since the 1980's. All of her best work was her first 3 albums and her collaborations with Prince. This cover version/interpretation is a mess.



R U serious. Sheila's best work was in the 80's? Obviously you stopped listeneing after the 80's because i feel like she did her best work after that period, not to say that she didn't do great work in the 80's but Sex Cymbal and the E-Train albums were definite progressions from the 80's material. Sheila is one of the few Prince associates to have great material and a strong name and presence in the music industry BEFORE and AFTER working with Prince. As for this single and video, i get the song conceptually(and it ain't no MPLS sound, it's JB) and the video concept is timely and i actually come away with a new appreciation for the opening monologue.




I don't think her albums after Prince were really good.
I did buy Sex Cymbal, but it lacked some kind of electricity...


the more latter albums like the one released a few years ago was really not good at all.


But this album I like. But it is an album of covers.


Sheila E is a great performer.


Funny Eric Leeds was in the E train and he raved about that band. There is a market for this type of music.
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Reply #57 posted 09/16/17 1:21pm

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I've seen Sheila E. perform her own shows live over the years and she is a great performer but an album of old covers just doesn't do it for me.

Free your mind...and your ass will follow.
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Reply #58 posted 09/16/17 1:23pm

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laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I don't think her albums after Prince were really good.
I did buy Sex Cymbal, but it lacked some kind of electricity...

the more latter albums like the one released a few years ago was really not good at all.

But this album I like. But it is an album of covers.

Sheila E is a great performer.

Funny Eric Leeds was in the E train and he raved about that band. There is a market for this type of music.

what is funny?

the E Train band w/Writes of Passage was not Sex Cymbal

and I said 'the more latter albums' like ICON

Writes of Passage was good music

Do you have Writes of Passage?

I'm a jazz fan

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
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Reply #59 posted 09/16/17 1:52pm

SoulAlive

OldFriends4Sale said:

I don't think her albums after Prince were really good.
I did buy Sex Cymbal, but it lacked some kind of electricity...

the more latter albums like the one released a few years ago was really not good at all.

But this album I like. But it is an album of covers.

Sheila E is a great performer.

I agree,that last album 'Icon'...I really,really tried to like it,but I just wasn't impressed with most of it.

but unlike some of the other former Prince proteges,Sheila stays busy and tours constantly.She always finds a way to get some new music out.She's a hard worker.Gotta admire that wink

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