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Lovejunky

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Morris Hayes’ Amazing 20-Year Journey With Prince

In this comprehensive series Morris discusses everything imaginable from his Arkansas roots to living in a house across the street from Prince in Minnesota; to creating, recording, performing and socializing with one of the greatest musicians of all time; to recounting many unforgettable experiences with his enigmatic, ingenious and forever cherished boss.

http://funknstuff.net/tir-morris-hayes/

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
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Reply #1 posted 08/03/17 8:57pm

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Sweet, thanks for sharing. Lots of great stuff!

If you've got funk, you've got style.
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Reply #2 posted 08/03/17 11:25pm

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Cool. cool Thanks for sharing.

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Reply #3 posted 08/04/17 6:08am

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This is from the TRUTH IN RHYTHM show that has lots of other great interviews, including sessions with NPG's Greg Boyer from June and July. Nice!
http://funknstuff.net/wat...view-show/
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Reply #4 posted 08/04/17 7:36am

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Damn, that's a time commitment! Some great stories so far.

I love the bit about Prince and Morris doing a spontaneous version of Solo at some aftershow. I'd LOVE to hear that.

The bit about Prince taking Morris aside to play him 5 vault tracks that were "better than Purple Rain." I wonder which era those songs are from??? Can you imagine what the stuff Prince had set aside for his future children sounds like?! What if what has already been released pales in comparison to all of that. What if his true golden era is yet to come?! Crazy to think about.

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #5 posted 08/04/17 9:10am

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Great series--thanks for giving it props.

Find strength in that which remains...
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Reply #6 posted 08/04/17 11:09am

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The beginning of Part 3 is really hard to listen to. I'll admit I'm still in denial about any dependancy if not the whole situation. It's nice to get such a wide ranging view of P. Thanks, Mr. Hayes. Thanks OP for posting as well.

God is my Sugar Daddy.
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Reply #7 posted 08/04/17 11:13am

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Thanks for posting LoveJunky.

This is by far is the best associate interview I have heard and I am only on the first hour.

Morris gives a glimpse into what it was like working for the man.

How P was a team player.

How generous P could be.

How when P changed his name to prince and when prince would call him, Morris would ask "Who is this?" lol

yes

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Reply #8 posted 08/04/17 12:43pm

JANEMT0413

Thank you LoveJunky, I could have listened to Mr. Hayes' all day!

I agree that this is one of the most genuine, truthful, loving, associate interviews yet. God bless Morris for this.

I'll be NPG ticket-buying for sure next year!

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Reply #9 posted 08/04/17 2:37pm

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I listened to all three hours ..so worth it..

Morris has SO much respect and admiration for Prince...

Especially Love how Morris refers to him as Kind,generous, and patient.

How he says he matured and grew wiser.

I wish all the Prince haters on here would get with the Program and listen to what People who really

knew him said...

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
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Reply #10 posted 08/04/17 3:14pm

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Yes my favorite Prince band members are Morris & Shelby. Their stories are great and you can tell they loved and respected Prince but also kept it real with him (Shelby said sometimes they’d argue like brother & sister and she’d want to throw a shoe at him lol ).

I remember Shelby posted a story to Facebook about during the Welcome 2 America tour when she found out her father was on his last days. They were playing at MSG when she got the call. She rushed home to North Carolina without even talking to Prince. She called him when she got there and he told her he knew about her dad and to stay as long as she needed to because she needed to be with her family and they needed her and if she needed anything from him to just call.

Elisa Fiorillo also talked about how Prince allowed her to bring her daughter to soundchecks and when she didn’t he would ask where she was because he missed seeing her. And there were times when he told her he wanted her to stay behind so she wouldn’t have to leave her daughter but would have her back on tour when he knew she needed the income.

These are the stories I like to hear and I wish would be surfaced more because I think sometimes the public perception is only that Prince was a weird dude who was difficult to work with and a jerk. It’s nice when people get to hear the other side.
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #11 posted 08/04/17 3:57pm

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Lovejunky said:

I listened to all three hours ..so worth it..

Morris has SO much respect and admiration for Prince...

Especially Love how Morris refers to him as Kind,generous, and patient.

How he says he matured and grew wiser.

I wish all the Prince haters on here would get with the Program and listen to what People who really

knew him said...

Find strength in that which remains...
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Reply #12 posted 08/04/17 5:47pm

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So many fascinating parts, like what it was like being exposed to Crystal Ball for the first time and how Morris eventually fell out with Prince. It sounded like the Kid situation from Purple Rain. I guess more truth to that character than fiction.

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Reply #13 posted 08/04/17 6:58pm

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Im on Part 2 now.

The story behind Face Down. lol

Light up Clive Davis like a Christmas Tree. lol

Not afraid to speak truth to power. He was not afraid and would take them to task.

The innovator P was with the internet including selling his records over the internet.

The five songs P played for Morris that were better than Purple Rain that he has not heard since even on boots. P told him these are for my children. And Morris said You Dont Have Children So Release Them Now. And P said These are My Children's Legacy.

Morris hopes the Estate would put together a panel of people that knew P and those he talked to about the release of his material. after he was gone.

Morris asked him P what are you the best at because you could have been the best guitar player, the best bass player, etc. And P said I am the best a lyrics. I am a poet. The lyrics stand on alone once you peel the music away.

Morris wants people to know the things P did for people that we didnt know about...like paying for funerals for fellow musicians family members.

P changed the band because he thought it changed the sound and energy.

I love Morris and the respect he had for P.

Conversations about the NDA's and how Morris wouldnt sign.


There is so much information from Morris, I cant even begin to tell you all of it. This is a must listen podcast!! All 3 hours.

On to Part 3!



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Reply #14 posted 08/04/17 7:24pm

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Part 3

We only see blocks. He looks different than he looks here. You have much clearer picture outside than you do inside. "Something aint right." "Im not feeling real good about his prospects." Morris is rubbing his head a lot during this conversation. "We gotta do something." "I had not been talking to him on a regular basis then."

There are probably people who had been talking to him on a regular basis who probably wish they had done something different sez Morris, and there is a lot of self checking and self kicking.

I never thought drugs, only that he was an eccentric dude.

I have to stop now and re-start tomorrow. This makes me too sad.

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Reply #15 posted 08/05/17 3:56am

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need to build up to this...MH is someone I have always respected so much, have met him few times etc. Will be hard to watch / listen to.

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Reply #16 posted 08/05/17 5:54am

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Thank you for sharing Lovejunky.
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Reply #17 posted 08/05/17 7:07am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Part 3

We only see blocks. He looks different than he looks here. You have much clearer picture outside than you do inside. "Something aint right." "Im not feeling real good about his prospects." Morris is rubbing his head a lot during this conversation. "We gotta do something." "I had not been talking to him on a regular basis then."

There are probably people who had been talking to him on a regular basis who probably wish they had done something different sez Morris, and there is a lot of self checking and self kicking.

I never thought drugs, only that he was an eccentric dude.

I have to stop now and re-start tomorrow. This makes me too sad.





And all kinds of people in or out of the circle at the end who are probably beating themselves up.

Also it was very telling about how P's world was, that even though Morris worked with Prince for the longest of anyone and had only left in 2013, just several years later he was already not in the inner circle anymore.
It seems that once P changed who was around him, he really kept solid boundaries up.
I don't know why that was.
I believe he could only have so many people around him at once, to honor his own limits and protect what he had going on, to sort of keep a close eye on everyone and everything at all times.
One person can only focus on so much at a time, and I have felt from the beginning that he knew he had a lot to protect.
This is in no way a statement about other people; I just think he could only have so much going on around him at any given time.
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Reply #18 posted 08/05/17 8:05am

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anangellooksdown said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Part 3

We only see blocks. He looks different than he looks here. You have much clearer picture outside than you do inside. "Something aint right." "Im not feeling real good about his prospects." Morris is rubbing his head a lot during this conversation. "We gotta do something." "I had not been talking to him on a regular basis then."

There are probably people who had been talking to him on a regular basis who probably wish they had done something different sez Morris, and there is a lot of self checking and self kicking.

I never thought drugs, only that he was an eccentric dude.

I have to stop now and re-start tomorrow. This makes me too sad.

And all kinds of people in or out of the circle at the end who are probably beating themselves up. Also it was very telling about how P's world was, that even though Morris worked with Prince for the longest of anyone and had only left in 2013, just several years later he was already not in the inner circle anymore. It seems that once P changed who was around him, he really kept solid boundaries up. I don't know why that was. I believe he could only have so many people around him at once, to honor his own limits and protect what he had going on, to sort of keep a close eye on everyone and everything at all times. One person can only focus on so much at a time, and I have felt from the beginning that he knew he had a lot to protect. This is in no way a statement about other people; I just think he could only have so much going on around him at any given time.

Makes a lot of sense, Angel. "Survivor's Guilt" is very real - what could I have done differently so it wouldn't have gone down the way it did? The answer is always nothing, because if you could have, you would have.

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Reply #19 posted 08/05/17 8:28am

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anangellooksdown said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Part 3

We only see blocks. He looks different than he looks here. You have much clearer picture outside than you do inside. "Something aint right." "Im not feeling real good about his prospects." Morris is rubbing his head a lot during this conversation. "We gotta do something." "I had not been talking to him on a regular basis then."

There are probably people who had been talking to him on a regular basis who probably wish they had done something different sez Morris, and there is a lot of self checking and self kicking.

I never thought drugs, only that he was an eccentric dude.

I have to stop now and re-start tomorrow. This makes me too sad.





And all kinds of people in or out of the circle at the end who are probably beating themselves up.

Also it was very telling about how P's world was, that even though Morris worked with Prince for the longest of anyone and had only left in 2013, just several years later he was already not in the inner circle anymore.
It seems that once P changed who was around him, he really kept solid boundaries up.
I don't know why that was.
I believe he could only have so many people around him at once, to honor his own limits and protect what he had going on, to sort of keep a close eye on everyone and everything at all times.
One person can only focus on so much at a time, and I have felt from the beginning that he knew he had a lot to protect.
This is in no way a statement about other people; I just think he could only have so much going on around him at any given time.

Couldn't it also be because his world was music and not much else if you were no longer involved with him musically you probably didn’t see or speak with him much (outside of the random hey how are you doing phone calls)?
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
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Reply #20 posted 08/05/17 10:47am

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Every P fan should hear what Morris has to say, why not make this a sticky?
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Reply #21 posted 08/05/17 11:35am

JANEMT0413

HardcoreJollies said:

Every P fan should hear what Morris has to say, why not make this a sticky?

I vote yes to sticky. The interview is THAT good

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Reply #22 posted 08/05/17 2:44pm

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Misslink88 said:



anangellooksdown said:


ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Part 3

We only see blocks. He looks different than he looks here. You have much clearer picture outside than you do inside. "Something aint right." "Im not feeling real good about his prospects." Morris is rubbing his head a lot during this conversation. "We gotta do something." "I had not been talking to him on a regular basis then."

There are probably people who had been talking to him on a regular basis who probably wish they had done something different sez Morris, and there is a lot of self checking and self kicking.

I never thought drugs, only that he was an eccentric dude.

I have to stop now and re-start tomorrow. This makes me too sad.





And all kinds of people in or out of the circle at the end who are probably beating themselves up. Also it was very telling about how P's world was, that even though Morris worked with Prince for the longest of anyone and had only left in 2013, just several years later he was already not in the inner circle anymore. It seems that once P changed who was around him, he really kept solid boundaries up. I don't know why that was. I believe he could only have so many people around him at once, to honor his own limits and protect what he had going on, to sort of keep a close eye on everyone and everything at all times. One person can only focus on so much at a time, and I have felt from the beginning that he knew he had a lot to protect. This is in no way a statement about other people; I just think he could only have so much going on around him at any given time.

Makes a lot of sense, Angel. "Survivor's Guilt" is very real - what could I have done differently so it wouldn't have gone down the way it did? The answer is always nothing, because if you could have, you would have.



Right, Misslink. We aren't that powerful.
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Reply #23 posted 08/05/17 7:17pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Im on Part 2 now.

The story behind Face Down. lol

Light up Clive Davis like a Christmas Tree. lol

Not afraid to speak truth to power. He was not afraid and would take them to task.

The innovator P was with the internet including selling his records over the internet.

The five songs P played for Morris that were better than Purple Rain that he has not heard since even on boots. P told him these are for my children. And Morris said You Dont Have Children So Release Them Now. And P said These are My Children's Legacy.

Morris hopes the Estate would put together a panel of people that knew P and those he talked to about the release of his material. after he was gone.

Morris asked him P what are you the best at because you could have been the best guitar player, the best bass player, etc. And P said I am the best a lyrics. I am a poet. The lyrics stand on alone once you peel the music away.

Morris wants people to know the things P did for people that we didnt know about...like paying for funerals for fellow musicians family members.

P changed the band because he thought it changed the sound and energy.

I love Morris and the respect he had for P.

Conversations about the NDA's and how Morris wouldnt sign.


There is so much information from Morris, I cant even begin to tell you all of it. This is a must listen podcast!! All 3 hours.

On to Part 3!



Reference to the Bolded from My Profile

You can read the lyrics in their glorious poetry, and you can listen to just the music and be completely swept away.

They don't even need each other.

Put them together and you have an absolute volcano of gorgeousness.

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
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Reply #24 posted 08/06/17 6:52am

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I'm grateful for Morris Hayes. He deserves our support.

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rogifan said:

anangellooksdown said:



And all kinds of people in or out of the circle at the end who are probably beating themselves up.

Also it was very telling about how P's world was, that even though Morris worked with Prince for the longest of anyone and had only left in 2013, just several years later he was already not in the inner circle anymore.
It seems that once P changed who was around him, he really kept solid boundaries up.
I don't know why that was.
I believe he could only have so many people around him at once, to honor his own limits and protect what he had going on, to sort of keep a close eye on everyone and everything at all times.
One person can only focus on so much at a time, and I have felt from the beginning that he knew he had a lot to protect.
This is in no way a statement about other people; I just think he could only have so much going on around him at any given time.

Couldn't it also be because his world was music and not much else if you were no longer involved with him musically you probably didn’t see or speak with him much (outside of the random hey how are you doing phone calls)?

Co-sign. I think he was working so much that when people left the bands he simply lost touch with them do to his work. He obviously thought a lot of these people and did a lot for them but you cannot work 24/7 and stay in touch with people.
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Reply #26 posted 08/07/17 4:57am

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rogifan said:


Couldn't it also be because his world was music and not much else if you were no longer involved with him musically you probably didn’t see or speak with him much (outside of the random hey how are you doing phone calls)?

Co-sign. I think he was working so much that when people left the bands he simply lost touch with them do to his work. He obviously thought a lot of these people and did a lot for them but you cannot work 24/7 and stay in touch with people.

Yeah I think sometimes we psychoanalyze too much and it’s much simpler than people think. Also there were people Prince worked with, then didn’t work with, then worked with again. It’s very possible we’re Prince still here he would have worked with Morris again some day.
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Reply #27 posted 08/07/17 5:03am

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rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:
Co-sign. I think he was working so much that when people left the bands he simply lost touch with them do to his work. He obviously thought a lot of these people and did a lot for them but you cannot work 24/7 and stay in touch with people.
Yeah I think sometimes we psychoanalyze too much and it’s much simpler than people think. Also there were people Prince worked with, then didn’t work with, then worked with again. It’s very possible we’re Prince still here he would have worked with Morris again some day.

Agree with ALL of that...

Nothing Stays the same..

Everything has a beginning a Middle and an end

the Cycle of Life...

Its as complicated as we make it...

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Lovejunky said:

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said: Yeah I think sometimes we psychoanalyze too much and it’s much simpler than people think. Also there were people Prince worked with, then didn’t work with, then worked with again. It’s very possible we’re Prince still here he would have worked with Morris again some day.

Agree with ALL of that...

Nothing Stays the same..

Everything has a beginning a Middle and an end

the Cycle of Life...

Its as complicated as we make it...

You guys watch the Greg Boyer interviews at TRUTH IN RHYTHM? Curious how he declined to say what the circumstances were for him leaving the NPG in 2009. He had no problem stating why he left George Clinton in 1996 though. But his answer about agonizing what he or anyone could have done to prevent Prince's demise was similar to Morris.

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Reply #29 posted 08/07/17 11:14am

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laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:


Couldn't it also be because his world was music and not much else if you were no longer involved with him musically you probably didn’t see or speak with him much (outside of the random hey how are you doing phone calls)?

Co-sign. I think he was working so much that when people left the bands he simply lost touch with them do to his work. He obviously thought a lot of these people and did a lot for them but you cannot work 24/7 and stay in touch with people.


Not everyone we come across can stay in our lives forever, that's obvious.
But this was more.
Many people have said once they were no longer in the inner circle, they couldn't reach him.
I think the reasons I gave are pretty simple and wise of Prince.

I've known since April that Prince was HUGE on boundaries and he also taught them to his girl protégés. You can see it in some of them.

Boundaries allowed Prince to continue to have the freedom to live as God wanted him to.
This has been a great helpful example to me, especially as a woman.

http://www.etonline.com/n...ould_come/
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