independent and unofficial
Prince fan community site
Tue 26th Sep 2017 12:52pm
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Associated artists & people > Prince fired The Revolution because of his vanity?
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 06/30/17 7:23pm

thebanishedone

Prince fired The Revolution because of his vanity?

Prince had to send his band and crew members to bring Wendy

and Lisa back from aeroport.

Don't you think Prince was hurted by their departure and

he was planning to fire them at that moment but waited the end of the tour?

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 06/30/17 8:57pm

TrivialPursuit

This is not a hard to find story, by any means. It's in every book and on every site, including this one.

"Despite everything, no 1 can dictate who u r 2 other people." - Prince |
http://bit.ly/unboxingprince
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 07/01/17 12:52am

toots

avatar

You can find where Bobby states this on a interview they did for Backspin on youtube...he states"I had go get Lisa and Wendy from the airport so we can continue the tour,they had enough"(something to that effect)...Mark also states he left as well and he had enough as well...as soon as I can copy the link I will edit this post

https://youtu.be/1hX8ihoV2qE
[Edited 7/1/17 0:55am]
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 07/01/17 4:03pm

laurarichardso
n

toots said:

You can find where Bobby states this on a interview they did for Backspin on youtube...he states"I had go get Lisa and Wendy from the airport so we can continue the tour,they had enough"(something to that effect)...Mark also states he left as well and he had enough as well...as soon as I can copy the link I will edit this post https://youtu.be/1hX8ihoV2qE [Edited 7/1/17 0:55am]

Sorry Alan Leeds said W&L were constantly complaining and saying they were going to leave. He knew when the tour was over they would be given their walking papers. You do not get to bitch at your boss and keep your job.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 07/01/17 4:30pm

toots

avatar

If you watched the video i said Bobby stated it as well is why i put a link up to back it up and Bobby had stated a time before in a intervoew he had to go talk to W&L at the airport...Alan may have said it as well but I could only find the link to that video...please provide a link to the interview where Alan may have said it as well so we can all read ...thanks

laurarichardson said:



toots said:


You can find where Bobby states this on a interview they did for Backspin on youtube...he states"I had go get Lisa and Wendy from the airport so we can continue the tour,they had enough"(something to that effect)...Mark also states he left as well and he had enough as well...as soon as I can copy the link I will edit this post https://youtu.be/1hX8ihoV2qE [Edited 7/1/17 0:55am]

Sorry Alan Leeds said W&L were constantly complaining and saying they were going to leave. He knew when the tour was over they would be given their walking papers. You do not get to bitch at your boss and keep your job.


[Edited 7/1/17 16:31pm]
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 07/05/17 6:02pm

funksterr

Loyalty. Go get somebody from the airport in the middle of a tour... man come on... somebody who is basicaly unemployable outside of this gig... I mean.. hell yeah they got fired. He couldn't trust 'em. It seems to be a running gag with the protoges and backing bands to get big-headed, slack-off on Prince, then sling mud when the inevitable occurs...

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 07/05/17 7:08pm

luvsexy4all

3 albums isnt enough for u people.....

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 07/05/17 7:31pm

rdhull

avatar

What were they complaining bout? The backup dancers, expanded Revolution?

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 07/05/17 8:39pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

this is one of those ole tired topics I think but at the same time it has relevance throught Prince's life.
He revealed in 1990, in an interview that it was an emotional move. Still tied to family pains steming back to his father putting him out and not letting him back in. It was a way to protect his heart.

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 07/07/17 10:26am

laurarichardso
n

OldFriends4Sale said:

this is one of those ole tired topics I think but at the same time it has relevance throught Prince's life.
He revealed in 1990, in an interview that it was an emotional move. Still tied to family pains steming back to his father putting him out and not letting him back in. It was a way to protect his heart.

Good Lord. Did Prince tell you this in a phone call that it was all tied to his family problems.

According to Alan Leeds they were constantly complaining on the short Parade Hit and Run shows.

He said he knew they were going to get there walking papers. Don't mouth off to your boss.

We also saw him bring in new people and move in a new direction.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 07/07/17 10:27am

laurarichardso
n

rdhull said:

What were they complaining bout? The backup dancers, expanded Revolution?

Expanded revolution and the back up dances. Did not like being an RnB show.

That got big headed.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 07/07/17 10:58am

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

laurarichardson said:

rdhull said:

What were they complaining bout? The backup dancers, expanded Revolution?

Expanded revolution and the back up dances. Did not like being an RnB show.

That got big headed.

Good Lord, Did Prince tell you this?

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 07/07/17 10:59am

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

this is one of those ole tired topics I think but at the same time it has relevance throught Prince's life.
He revealed in 1990, in an interview that it was an emotional move. Still tied to family pains steming back to his father putting him out and not letting him back in. It was a way to protect his heart.

Good Lord. Did Prince tell you this in a phone call that it was all tied to his family problems.

According to Alan Leeds they were constantly complaining on the short Parade Hit and Run shows.

He said he knew they were going to get there walking papers. Don't mouth off to your boss.

We also saw him bring in new people and move in a new direction.

Prince spoke on it in a 1990 Interview magazine interview

That is why in 1997 he released a song called In This Bed I Scream

.

Alan Leeds didn't say that.

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 07/07/17 11:23am

wonder505

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

Good Lord. Did Prince tell you this in a phone call that it was all tied to his family problems.

According to Alan Leeds they were constantly complaining on the short Parade Hit and Run shows.

He said he knew they were going to get there walking papers. Don't mouth off to your boss.

We also saw him bring in new people and move in a new direction.

Prince spoke on it in a 1990 Interview magazine interview

That is why in 1997 he released a song called In This Bed I Scream

.

Alan Leeds didn't say that.

You mean this 1990 interview? lol http://www.rollingstone.c...s-19901018

The breakup of the Revolution apparently didn't go down easy. Today, Prince's relationship with his onetime best friends Wendy Melvoin and Lisa Coleman is somewhere between uncomfortable and estranged. "I talk to Wendy and Lisa, but it's like this," Prince says, moving his hands in opposite directions. "I still hear a lot of hurt from them, and that bothers me. When I knew them, they were two spunky, wonderful human beings. I honestly don't know what they're hurt about."

So far, Prince says, the two women haven't listened to the few tidbits of advice he has offered. For their first video, Prince recommended that they try to announce themselves by making a splash, by "doing something like jumping off a speaker with smoke pouring out everywhere. Something." When he saw the video, however, Wendy was sitting in a chair, playing her guitar. "You can't do that when you're just getting established — kids watching MTV see that and they go click," Prince says, miming a channel being changed. "They'd rather watch a commercial."

Still, Prince's pronouncements seem proffered more in mourning than in malice. "Wendy and Lisa are going to have to do some more serious soul-searching and decide what they want to write about," he says sadly and shakes his head. "I don't know what Wendy and Lisa are so hurt about. I wish I did, but I don't."

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 07/07/17 12:41pm

cbarnes3121

luvsexy4all said:

3 albums isnt enough for u people.....

one was enough for me they could of stopped after purple rain and lovesexy band could of took over

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 07/07/17 6:33pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

cbarnes3121 said:

luvsexy4all said:

3 albums isnt enough for u people.....

one was enough for me they could of stopped after purple rain and lovesexy band could of took over

Yeah U R just being silly

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 07/07/17 6:41pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

wonder505 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Prince spoke on it in a 1990 Interview magazine interview

That is why in 1997 he released a song called In This Bed I Scream

.

Alan Leeds didn't say that.

You mean this 1990 interview? lol http://www.rollingstone.c...s-19901018

The breakup of the Revolution apparently didn't go down easy. Today, Prince's relationship with his onetime best friends Wendy Melvoin and Lisa Coleman is somewhere between uncomfortable and estranged. "I talk to Wendy and Lisa, but it's like this," Prince says, moving his hands in opposite directions. "I still hear a lot of hurt from them, and that bothers me. When I knew them, they were two spunky, wonderful human beings. I honestly don't know what they're hurt about."

So far, Prince says, the two women haven't listened to the few tidbits of advice he has offered. For their first video, Prince recommended that they try to announce themselves by making a splash, by "doing something like jumping off a speaker with smoke pouring out everywhere. Something." When he saw the video, however, Wendy was sitting in a chair, playing her guitar. "You can't do that when you're just getting established — kids watching MTV see that and they go click," Prince says, miming a channel being changed. "They'd rather watch a commercial."

Still, Prince's pronouncements seem proffered more in mourning than in malice. "Wendy and Lisa are going to have to do some more serious soul-searching and decide what they want to write about," he says sadly and shakes his head. "I don't know what Wendy and Lisa are so hurt about. I wish I did, but I don't."

Prince said a lot of detached things in that interview... and in small slivers here and there revealed himself.

"I'm playing the bad guy," says Prince, "but I didn't fire Jimmy and Terry. Morris asked me what I would do in his situation. You got to remember, it was his band."

.

There is still some residue of emotional pain. "What if everybody around me split?" he asks. "Then I'd be left with only me, and I'd have to fend for me. That's why I have to protect me."

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 07/07/17 8:29pm

wonder505

Sounds like typical band drama to me and why wouldn't Prince protect himself as a solo artist first? To connect their firing back to his father is a kinda loopey.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 07/07/17 10:16pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

check out

Image result for tour i would die for you prince

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 07/07/17 11:22pm

SoulAlive

OldFriends4Sale said:


Prince said a lot of detached things in that interview... and in small slivers here and there revealed himself.



"I'm playing the bad guy," says Prince, "but I didn't fire Jimmy and Terry. Morris asked me what I would do in his situation. You got to remember, it was his band."



lol




...
[Edited 7/8/17 1:11am]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 07/08/17 9:18am

wonder505

OldFriends4Sale said:

check out

Image result for tour i would die for you prince

Another book based on limited third party interviews and another author trying his darnest to piece together and make a connection into Prince's personality. And that panel with him, Quest Love and Alan Leeds at a book discussion did not help.

Let's talk about Wendy's personality? Can I dissect her and discuss how she may have contributed to getting the boot from Prince. Or are we to assume that Wendy and Lisa are complete perfect Angels.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 07/08/17 9:27am

SoulAlive

As I understand it,Wendy and Lisa quit the band right in the middle of the Parade Tour.This angered Prince and he was forced to beg them to come back.They came back,but he was still pissed at them and fired them after the tour was over.I think I read all this in the DMSR book.

In addition,BrownMark was unhappy around this time,too.He was considering a gig in Stevie Nicks' band,where he would have been paid three times what he was making in the Revolution.Late 1986 seems like it was a tough time for everyone.Under The Cherry Moon had flopped,Parade wasn't a massive seller,and it was obvious that some major changes were needed.I have to say,I wasn't totally surprised when I heard that Prince was disbanding the Revolution.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 07/08/17 9:59am

wonder505

SoulAlive said:

As I understand it,Wendy and Lisa quit the band right in the middle of the Parade Tour.This angered Prince and he was forced to beg them to come back.They came back,but he was still pissed at them and fired them after the tour was over.I think I read all this in the DMSR book.

In addition,BrownMark was unhappy around this time,too.He was considering a gig in Stevie Nicks' band,where he would have been paid three times what he was making in the Revolution.Late 1986 seems like it was a tough time for everyone.Under The Cherry Moon had flopped,Parade wasn't a massive seller,and it was obvious that some major changes were needed.I have to say,I wasn't totally surprised when I heard that Prince was disbanding the Revolution.

Quitting in the middle of a tour would anger any band leader and BrownMark has not done much since leaving the Revolution.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 07/08/17 10:21am

rdhull

avatar

wonder505 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

check out

Image result for tour i would die for you prince

Another book based on limited third party interviews and another author trying his darnest to piece together and make a connection into Prince's personality. And that panel with him, Quest Love and Alan Leeds at a book discussion did not help.

Let's talk about Wendy's personality? Can I dissect her and discuss how she may have contributed to getting the boot from Prince. Or are we to assume that Wendy and Lisa are complete perfect Angels.

Man, Wendy came in talkin shit. Im sure at first it was a nice breth of fresh air but became insufferable. I remember that Rolling Stone story and she seemd overbearing in her place with the band and Prince, after such a short time. Brown Mark had some things to say about that in Pop Life-Dave Hill, or was it DMSR-Per Nilsen?

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 07/08/17 11:10am

luvgirl

OldFriends4Sale said:


check out



Image result for tour i would die for you prince





Any worthwhile information in this book? I stared reading it a while back and had to put it down because I got bored with it. Too much about generation X and trying to psychoanalyze Prince. Maybe I didn't give it enough of a chance? I plan to try to read it again but have to drum up the interest again.
I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 07/08/17 11:57am

SoulAlive

Oh I agree.Prince had every right to be upset.

wonder505 said:

Quitting in the middle of a tour would anger any band leader

[Edited 7/8/17 11:58am]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 07/08/17 12:03pm

SoulAlive

True.Not everybody can be a "star",but he's a good bassist.If Stevie Nicks wanted to pay him three times what he was making in the Revolution,that says alot about his talent,doesn't it?

wonder505 said:

BrownMark has not done much since leaving the Revolution.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 07/08/17 1:34pm

wonder505

SoulAlive said:

True.Not everybody can be a "star",but he's a good bassist.If Stevie Nicks wanted to pay him three times what he was making in the Revolution,that says alot about his talent,doesn't it?





wonder505 said:



BrownMark has not done much since leaving the Revolution.





No.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 07/08/17 1:49pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

SoulAlive said:

True.Not everybody can be a "star",but he's a good bassist.If Stevie Nicks wanted to pay him three times what he was making in the Revolution,that says alot about his talent,doesn't it?

wonder505 said:

BrownMark has not done much since leaving the Revolution.

Definately

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 07/08/17 1:49pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

luvgirl said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

check out

Image result for tour i would die for you prince

Any worthwhile information in this book? I stared reading it a while back and had to put it down because I got bored with it. Too much about generation X and trying to psychoanalyze Prince. Maybe I didn't give it enough of a chance? I plan to try to read it again but have to drum up the interest again.

I think there is supposed to be a 'book club' discussion on the Org soon

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Associated artists & people > Prince fired The Revolution because of his vanity?