Jeff Bezos' team thinks it's possible that the text leaks were politically motivated and that a "government entity" accessed the Bezos texts.

Then this was tweeted about 3 hours ago by a CNN Diplomatic Correspondent:

Michelle Kosinski‏Verified account @MichLKosinski

[Edited 2/7/19 22:30pm]

Dadgum it, I had a slew of headlines ready for this thread!

"Trump Has Pecker Trouble"

"Pecker May Bring Down Trump (Unbelievably It's Not His Pecker)"

"Trump's Pecker Endangered By Another Pecker"

And on and on and on!

At any rate, here's Jeff Bezo's post on this. You should read it:

https://medium.com/@jeffr...6e3922310f

No thank you, Mr. Pecker

Something unusual happened to me yesterday. Actually, for me it wasn’t just unusual — it was a first. I was made an offer I couldn’t refuse. Or at least that’s what the top people at the National Enquirer thought. I’m glad they thought that, because it emboldened them to put it all in writing. Rather than capitulate to extortion and blackmail, I’ve decided to publish exactly what they sent me, despite the personal cost and embarrassment they threaten.

AMI, the owner of the National Enquirer, led by David Pecker, recently entered into an immunity deal with the Department of Justice related to their role in the so-called “Catch and Kill” process on behalf of President Trump and his election campaign. Mr. Pecker and his company have also been investigated for various actions they’ve taken on behalf of the Saudi Government.

And sometimes Mr. Pecker mixes it all together:

“After Mr. Trump became president, he rewarded Mr. Pecker’s loyalty with a White House dinner to which the media executive brought a guest with important ties to the royals in Saudi Arabia. At the time, Mr. Pecker was pursuing business there while also hunting for financing for acquisitions…”

RodeoSchro said:

That's racist

poppys said:

x 21,094

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

If it’s all true, and as long as all the info was obtained and gathered ligitamitly, then I see no problem. Whatever we do, good or bad may be exposed, that’s life.

Amazns’s Jeff Bezos accuses Trump buddy National Enquirer of blackmail.

Is that supposed to say Amazing?

poppys said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

If it’s all true, and as long as all the info was obtained and gathered ligitamitly, then I see no problem. Whatever we do, good or bad may be exposed, that’s life.

I believe the point is that it was not gathered legitimately and the info was being used to extort Bezos but he did not succumb - he is instead turning the tables on them.

All of Trump's affliations (e.g. AMI) are smarmy bottom dwellers

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

If it’s all true, and as long as all the info was obtained and gathered ligitamitly, then I see no problem. Whatever we do, good or bad may be exposed, that’s life.

Extortion and blackmail are not legal, that is a part of where the problem arises. Also, National Enquirer somehow how got his private texts, and they did not get them from him. The other issue with this is that Trump has been attacking Bezos. National Enquirer ownder and Trump are friends and the Nat Enq was involved in paying Karen Dugal money to keep quiet (doing grab and kill stories of Trump during the campaign, in order to effect the outcome of the election, to keep the information hidden from the public).


Then there is another consideration that may be playing into this. Trump has been having a ery public feud with Amazon owner, Amazon, and The Washington Post (which Bezos owns). Bezos intimates that all of this arose because of political purposes and that it may have been done at the direction of a governmental agency. If Trump ordered CIA, Secret Service, NSA, or whoever to spy on Bezos, to get intel on him... Though, I doubt Trump would do that with an American governmental agency. But there is another connection here to a different government who can order their spies to get that intel, without any pushback from anyone in their own country.

Khashoggi worked for the Washington Post. Saudi Araibia crown prince was involved in that murder. Trump has stated time and time again that there is no hard evidence that Saudi Arabia did that, that MBS was involved, etc. When all of this came out, Trump was getting ready to announce again that there was no evidence against MBS. Could MBS have gotten Bezos information in exchange for continued White House support that he was not involved in the murder of Khashoggi?

[Edited 2/8/19 20:34pm]

benni said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

If it’s all true, and as long as all the info was obtained and gathered ligitamitly, then I see no problem. Whatever we do, good or bad may be exposed, that’s life.

Extortion and blackmail are not legal, that is a part of where the problem arises. Also, National Enquirer somehow how got his private texts, and they did not get them from him. The other issue with this is that Trump has been attacking Bezos. National Enquirer ownder and Trump are friends and the Nat Enq was involved in paying Karen Dugal money to keep quiet (doing grab and kill stories of Trump during the campaign, in order to effect the outcome of the election, to keep the information hidden from the public).


Then there is another consideration that may be playing into this. Trump has been having a ery public feud with Amazon owner, Amazon, and The Washington Post (which Bezos owns). Bezos intimates that all of this arose because of political purposes and that it may have been done at the direction of a governmental agency. If Trump ordered CIA, Secret Service, NSA, or whoever to spy on Bezos, to get intel on him... Though, I doubt Trump would do that with an American governmental agency. But there is another connection here to a different government who can order their spies to get that intel, without any pushback from anyone in their own country.

Khashoggi worked for the Washington Post. Saudi Araibia crown prince was involved in that murder. Trump has stated time and time again that there is no hard evidence that Saudi Arabia did that, that MEB was involved, etc. When all of this came out, Trump was getting ready to announce again that there was no evidence against MEB. Could MEB have gotten Bezos information in exchange for continued White House support that he was not involved in the murder of Khashoggi?

benni said:

Extortion and blackmail are not legal, that is a part of where the problem arises. Also, National Enquirer somehow how got his private texts, and they did not get them from him. The other issue with this is that Trump has been attacking Bezos. National Enquirer ownder and Trump are friends and the Nat Enq was involved in paying Karen Dugal money to keep quiet (doing grab and kill stories of Trump during the campaign, in order to effect the outcome of the election, to keep the information hidden from the public).


Then there is another consideration that may be playing into this. Trump has been having a ery public feud with Amazon owner, Amazon, and The Washington Post (which Bezos owns). Bezos intimates that all of this arose because of political purposes and that it may have been done at the direction of a governmental agency. If Trump ordered CIA, Secret Service, NSA, or whoever to spy on Bezos, to get intel on him... Though, I doubt Trump would do that with an American governmental agency. But there is another connection here to a different government who can order their spies to get that intel, without any pushback from anyone in their own country.

Khashoggi worked for the Washington Post. Saudi Araibia crown prince was involved in that murder. Trump has stated time and time again that there is no hard evidence that Saudi Arabia did that, that MEB was involved, etc. When all of this came out, Trump was getting ready to announce again that there was no evidence against MEB. Could MEB have gotten Bezos information in exchange for continued White House support that he was not involved in the murder of Khashoggi?

What does MEB stand for?

Poor Jeff Bezos doesn't like being a victim of the surveillance state? Cry me a river.

"If Bezos were the political victim of surveillance state abuses, it would be scandalous and dangerous. It would also be deeply ironic.

That’s because Amazon, the company that has made Bezos the planet’s richest human being, is a critical partner for the U.S. Government in building an ever-more invasive, militarized and sprawling surveillance state. Indeed, one of the largest components of Amazon’s business, and thus one of the most important sources of Bezos’ vast wealth and power, is working with the Pentagon and the NSA to empower the U.S. Government with more potent and more sophisticated weapons, including surveillance weapons."

https://theintercept.com/...yone-else/

^^ banana bend!

poppys said:

^^ banana bend!

poppys said:

benni said:

Extortion and blackmail are not legal, that is a part of where the problem arises. Also, National Enquirer somehow how got his private texts, and they did not get them from him. The other issue with this is that Trump has been attacking Bezos. National Enquirer ownder and Trump are friends and the Nat Enq was involved in paying Karen Dugal money to keep quiet (doing grab and kill stories of Trump during the campaign, in order to effect the outcome of the election, to keep the information hidden from the public).


Then there is another consideration that may be playing into this. Trump has been having a ery public feud with Amazon owner, Amazon, and The Washington Post (which Bezos owns). Bezos intimates that all of this arose because of political purposes and that it may have been done at the direction of a governmental agency. If Trump ordered CIA, Secret Service, NSA, or whoever to spy on Bezos, to get intel on him... Though, I doubt Trump would do that with an American governmental agency. But there is another connection here to a different government who can order their spies to get that intel, without any pushback from anyone in their own country.

Khashoggi worked for the Washington Post. Saudi Araibia crown prince was involved in that murder. Trump has stated time and time again that there is no hard evidence that Saudi Arabia did that, that MBS was involved, etc. When all of this came out, Trump was getting ready to announce again that there was no evidence against MBS. Could MBS have gotten Bezos information in exchange for continued White House support that he was not involved in the murder of Khashoggi?

What does MEB stand for?

Sorry, I was still in work mindset. It's supposed to be MBS. I corrected it. But I was talking about the crown Prince of Saudi Arabia: Mohammed bin Salman

benni said:

poppys said:

What does MEB stand for?

Sorry, I was still in work mindset. It's supposed to be MBS. I corrected it. But I was talking about the crown Prince of Saudi Arabia: Mohammed bin Salman

Ok, makes sense.

NYTimes Feb. 7, 2019

WASHINGTON — Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia told a top aide in a conversation in 2017 that he would use “a bullet” on Jamal Khashoggi, the journalist killed in October, if Mr. Khashoggi did not return to the kingdom and end his criticism of the Saudi government, according to current and former American and foreign officials with direct knowledge of intelligence reports.

The conversation, intercepted by American intelligence agencies, is the most detailed evidence to date that the crown prince considered killing Mr. Khashoggi long before a team of Saudi operatives strangled him inside the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul and dismembered his body using a bone saw.

And if we really want to go down the rabbit hole, Russia could be involved in information gathering too. After all, Trump asked them to get HRC's emails during a campaign speech.

[Edited 2/8/19 20:59pm]

djThunderfunk said:

poppys said:

benni said:

Sorry, I was still in work mindset. It's supposed to be MBS. I corrected it. But I was talking about the crown Prince of Saudi Arabia: Mohammed bin Salman

Ok, makes sense.

NYTimes Feb. 7, 2019

WASHINGTON — Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia told a top aide in a conversation in 2017 that he would use “a bullet” on Jamal Khashoggi, the journalist killed in October, if Mr. Khashoggi did not return to the kingdom and end his criticism of the Saudi government, according to current and former American and foreign officials with direct knowledge of intelligence reports.

The conversation, intercepted by American intelligence agencies, is the most detailed evidence to date that the crown prince considered killing Mr. Khashoggi long before a team of Saudi operatives strangled him inside the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul and dismembered his body using a bone saw.

And if we really want to go down the rabbit hole, Russia could be involved in information gathering too. After all, Trump asked them to get HRC's emails during a campaign speech.

[Edited 2/8/19 20:59pm]

Very true. The thread I had posted about the Senate Intelligence Committee (Senator Burr's interview), since I read that, I've been speculating whether Russia and the Middle Eastern countries are working together to undermind the USA and other allied nations. After all, we know that the 9/11 terrorists the majority of them came from Saudi Arabia. And it is very possible that all of this is tied in together somehow.

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

djThunderfunk said:

Poor Jeff Bezos doesn't like being a victim of the surveillance state? Cry me a river.

"If Bezos were the political victim of surveillance state abuses, it would be scandalous and dangerous. It would also be deeply ironic.

That’s because Amazon, the company that has made Bezos the planet’s richest human being, is a critical partner for the U.S. Government in building an ever-more invasive, militarized and sprawling surveillance state. Indeed, one of the largest components of Amazon’s business, and thus one of the most important sources of Bezos’ vast wealth and power, is working with the Pentagon and the NSA to empower the U.S. Government with more potent and more sophisticated weapons, including surveillance weapons."

https://theintercept.com/...yone-else/

Silly quote from the Intercept whom ever that is.

What's "silly" about it?

benni said:

poppys said:

Ok, makes sense.

NYTimes Feb. 7, 2019

WASHINGTON — Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia told a top aide in a conversation in 2017 that he would use “a bullet” on Jamal Khashoggi, the journalist killed in October, if Mr. Khashoggi did not return to the kingdom and end his criticism of the Saudi government, according to current and former American and foreign officials with direct knowledge of intelligence reports.

The conversation, intercepted by American intelligence agencies, is the most detailed evidence to date that the crown prince considered killing Mr. Khashoggi long before a team of Saudi operatives strangled him inside the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul and dismembered his body using a bone saw.

And if we really want to go down the rabbit hole, Russia could be involved in information gathering too. After all, Trump asked them to get HRC's emails during a campaign speech.

Very true. The thread I had posted about the Senate Intelligence Committee (Senator Burr's interview), since I read that, I've been speculating whether Russia and the Middle Eastern countries are working together to undermind the USA and other allied nations. After all, we know that the 9/11 terrorists the majority of them came from Saudi Arabia. And it is very possible that all of this is tied in together somehow.

I'm leaning towards Saudi Arabia having gotten those texts, and here is why:


https://observer.com/2019...y-scandal/

Another suspect is Saudi Arabia, which incurred the wrath of The Washington Post by murdering and dismembering their columnist Jamal Khashoggi in Istanbul last October. Bezos referenced that awful crime in his blog post, including the line, “Pecker and his company have also been investigated for various actions they’ve taken on behalf of the Saudi Government,” explaining that AMI is seeking Saudi funding. Bezos added, “Several days ago, an AMI leader advised us that Mr. Pecker is ‘apoplectic’ about our investigation. For reasons still to be better understood, the Saudi angle seems to hit a particularly sensitive nerve.”

The Amazon CEO is more than hinting that Riyadh is mixed up in AMI activities in a nefarious way, something which Pecker is desperate to obscure.


In 2017, the Israeli firm NSO Group sold Riyadh a $55 million spy program termed Pegasus which hacks smartphones to obtain their contents. This capability was desired by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman to spy on his enemies abroad—including, it seems, the doomed Jamal Khashoggi. Since somebody appears to have hacked Jeff Bezos’ smartphone and passed its salacious contents to The National Enquirer, the Saudi angle is one which investigators are pursuing with vigor right now.

benni said:

I'm leaning towards Saudi Arabia having gotten those texts, and here is why:


https://observer.com/2019...y-scandal/

Another suspect is Saudi Arabia, which incurred the wrath of The Washington Post by murdering and dismembering their columnist Jamal Khashoggi in Istanbul last October. Bezos referenced that awful crime in his blog post, including the line, “Pecker and his company have also been investigated for various actions they’ve taken on behalf of the Saudi Government,” explaining that AMI is seeking Saudi funding. Bezos added, “Several days ago, an AMI leader advised us that Mr. Pecker is ‘apoplectic’ about our investigation. For reasons still to be better understood, the Saudi angle seems to hit a particularly sensitive nerve.”

The Amazon CEO is more than hinting that Riyadh is mixed up in AMI activities in a nefarious way, something which Pecker is desperate to obscure.


In 2017, the Israeli firm NSO Group sold Riyadh a $55 million spy program termed Pegasus which hacks smartphones to obtain their contents. This capability was desired by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman to spy on his enemies abroad—including, it seems, the doomed Jamal Khashoggi. Since somebody appears to have hacked Jeff Bezos’ smartphone and passed its salacious contents to The National Enquirer, the Saudi angle is one which investigators are pursuing with vigor right now.

Yes. There was a guy on Meet the Press today trying to minimize. Said "the press" is just scattershot accusing everyone all the time, everyone can't be guilty, and the press needs to stop (saying this on Meet the Press, lol). Another guest said nope, there is plenty of evidence leading that way.