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Scammer Joel Osteen! MegaChurch Exposed!

A. Osteen got into trouble when commenting on NeoNazis?

B. When the next Hurricane hits TX wonder if he turns people away?

C. All the MegaChurches care about is #1 $$$ You are a sucker if you fall for Hinn, Osteen.

D. Should ConMan like Osteen be banned from Social Media?

I think we can all collectively say.
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Reply #1 posted 09/30/18 7:19am

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Joel Osteen Ministries

CHARITY: DID NOT DISCLOSE.

http://www.give.org/charity-reviews/national/religious/joel-osteen-ministries-in-houston-tx-24569

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CHARITY? THE MONEY GOES TO HIS MANSION. CAN ANYONE SAY CON!

Joel Osteen's $10.5 Million Mansion, Cross-Less Church and Other Surprising Facts About the Mega-Pastor

"Houston CultureMap reported in 2010 that the Osteens moved into a home in the River Oaks area of Houston, Texas, that was valued at $10.5 million. The same article reported that the Osteens had kept a former residence valued at $2.9 million while listing a vacant lot near their former home for $1.1. million."

https://www.christianpost.com/buzzvine/joel-osteens-10-5-million-mansion-cross-less-church-and-other-surprising-facts-about-the-mega-pastor-106986/

I think we can all collectively say.
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Reply #2 posted 09/30/18 7:46am

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How ironic, that you are upset about this. Aren't you the one who always screams, innocent until proven guilty? Or these allegatioins are ruining a man's life and haven't been proven......

Oh wait, this is all Hillary and Obama's fault. biggrin


Yes Osteen has always been a scammer, just like Jim & Tammy Faye Baker.

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Reply #3 posted 09/30/18 8:10am

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PennyPurple said:

How ironic, that you are upset about this. Aren't you the one who always screams, innocent until proven guilty? Or these allegatioins are ruining a man's life and haven't been proven.....


Oh wait, this is all Hillary and Obama's fault. biggrin



Yes Osteen has always been a scammer, just like Jim & Tammy Faye Baker.



No it is "legal" what he is doing. No crimes are broken that I know about. Just ethical questions.
I think we can all collectively say.
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Reply #4 posted 09/30/18 8:35am

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Televangelists in 2018. Wow. Just now. I think if anyone falls for these creeps in 2018 is all good, but it also speaks to a certain part of your mental development. You may be able to do complex math, know that the dress was blue and not black and gold, hold a steady job.....but if you still fall for these con men, there is great scientific post mortem brain research waiting that would greatly benefit mankind.

I’m not saying there is no god. I dont know that. But if there is an all-powerful force he is shaking his head at all the folks who fall for this man and all the so-called religious figures in this day in age.

Religion? 100 years ago or more? Sure, all of us could fall for this type of sham as none of us knew better, and needed a crutch if we had time on our hands to ponder the meaning of life instead of second by second struggle to survive.
[Edited 9/30/18 8:39am]
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Reply #5 posted 09/30/18 9:58am

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Proud member of Lakewood Church here. Now, you can take this information - which comes from a guy who...awww, I'm not gonna name drop but you know - and do with it what you want. Believe it, or put your trust in Nikki Swift. Who is Nikki Swift? Let her tell you herself:

"Nicki Swift is the top source for all the best dirt and juiciest gossip on the celebs you love...or love to hate."

At any rate, that video is hooey. Joel is a great guy and does more to help people in one week than 99.999999% of the people in America do in one year. He gives a higher percentage of his earnings to his church - and other charities - than anyone you will find, anywhere. Oh yeah - he doesn't take a salary from Lakewood, nor does his wife Victoria.

Have at it!

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[Edited 9/30/18 10:00am]

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Reply #6 posted 09/30/18 10:25am

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RodeoSchro said:

Proud member of Lakewood Church here. Now, you can take this information - which comes from a guy who...awww, I'm not gonna name drop but you know - and do with it what you want. Believe it, or put your trust in Nikki Swift. Who is Nikki Swift? Let her tell you herself:

"Nicki Swift is the top source for all the best dirt and juiciest gossip on the celebs you love...or love to hate."

At any rate, that video is hooey. Joel is a great guy and does more to help people in one week than 99.99999% of the people in America do in one year. He gives a higher percentage of his earnings to his church - and other charities - than anyone you will find, anywhere. Oh yeah - he doesn't take a salary from Lakewood, nor does his wife Victoria.

Have at it!

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[Edited 9/30/18 10:00am]



That’s not the point.

Ee can use this same logic to defend child molesters in the Catholic Church, the charity of Bill Cosby. The great charity efforts and awareness of Lance Armstrong who has done so much for cancer research.

Poor lance, he was demonize by buffoons in the sports media.
Crooked Donnie. Lock him up!
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Reply #7 posted 09/30/18 10:28am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

RodeoSchro said:

Proud member of Lakewood Church here. Now, you can take this information - which comes from a guy who...awww, I'm not gonna name drop but you know - and do with it what you want. Believe it, or put your trust in Nikki Swift. Who is Nikki Swift? Let her tell you herself:

"Nicki Swift is the top source for all the best dirt and juiciest gossip on the celebs you love...or love to hate."

At any rate, that video is hooey. Joel is a great guy and does more to help people in one week than 99.999999% of the people in America do in one year. He gives a higher percentage of his earnings to his church - and other charities - than anyone you will find, anywhere. Oh yeah - he doesn't take a salary from Lakewood, nor does his wife Victoria.

Have at it!

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[Edited 9/30/18 10:00am]

That’s not the point. Ee can use this same logic to defend child molesters in the Catholic Church, the charity of Bill Cosby. The great charity efforts and awareness of Lance Armstrong who has done so much for cancer research. Poor lance, he was demonize by buffoons in the sports media.



Exactly what untoward behavior by Joel do you think I'm defending? I'm saying there isn't any untoward behavior to defend. The video is piffle, posted by a gossip monger.


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Reply #8 posted 09/30/18 10:31am

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We use religion to scam because of Capitalism.

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
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Reply #9 posted 09/30/18 11:07am

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RodeoSchro said:

Proud member of Lakewood Church here. Now, you can take this information - which comes from a guy who...awww, I'm not gonna name drop but you know - and do with it what you want. Believe it, or put your trust in Nikki Swift. Who is Nikki Swift? Let her tell you herself:

"Nicki Swift is the top source for all the best dirt and juiciest gossip on the celebs you love...or love to hate."

At any rate, that video is hooey. Joel is a great guy and does more to help people in one week than 99.99999% of the people in America do in one year. He gives a higher percentage of his earnings to his church - and other charities - than anyone you will find, anywhere. Oh yeah - he doesn't take a salary from Lakewood, nor does his wife Victoria.

Have at it!

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[Edited 9/30/18 10:00am]



Not once have I spent money on Infowars or given Alex Jones any donations. For the record.
I think we can all collectively say.
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Reply #10 posted 09/30/18 2:30pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

RodeoSchro said:

Proud member of Lakewood Church here. Now, you can take this information - which comes from a guy who...awww, I'm not gonna name drop but you know - and do with it what you want. Believe it, or put your trust in Nikki Swift. Who is Nikki Swift? Let her tell you herself:

"Nicki Swift is the top source for all the best dirt and juiciest gossip on the celebs you love...or love to hate."

At any rate, that video is hooey. Joel is a great guy and does more to help people in one week than 99.999999% of the people in America do in one year. He gives a higher percentage of his earnings to his church - and other charities - than anyone you will find, anywhere. Oh yeah - he doesn't take a salary from Lakewood, nor does his wife Victoria.

Have at it!

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Not once have I spent money on Infowars or given Alex Jones any donations. For the record.



If you go to his website, you're giving him money in the form of your eyeballs. He's selling your page views to advertisers.

So if you REALLY want to make me happy, don't go to his site at all.

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Reply #11 posted 09/30/18 2:59pm

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Joel Osteen is scum and a charlatan and self-worshiper.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #12 posted 09/30/18 4:35pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Joel Osteen is scum and a charlatan and self-worshiper.


Explanation please.

Rest in Peace Bettie Boo. See u soon.
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Reply #13 posted 09/30/18 6:31pm

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JoeyC said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Joel Osteen is scum and a charlatan and self-worshiper.


Explanation please.

He meant Trump. Typo.

"Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost".
-Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #14 posted 09/30/18 10:13pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

We use religion to scam because of Capitalism.



Yeah but if it were any other type of organization it would legislated and regulated.
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Reply #15 posted 09/30/18 10:19pm

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Perhaps I’m a little too harsh on Joel and am lumping him in with others because I’ve known these characters on a personal basis. I’ve seen what the parishioners don’t see. And in some ways it has numbed and jaded me to things in the human condition. Bleh*
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Reply #16 posted 09/30/18 10:21pm

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RodeoSchro said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


RodeoSchro said:

Proud member of Lakewood Church here. Now, you can take this information - which comes from a guy who...awww, I'm not gonna name drop but you know - and do with it what you want. Believe it, or put your trust in Nikki Swift. Who is Nikki Swift? Let her tell you herself:

"Nicki Swift is the top source for all the best dirt and juiciest gossip on the celebs you love...or love to hate."

At any rate, that video is hooey. Joel is a great guy and does more to help people in one week than 99.99999% of the people in America do in one year. He gives a higher percentage of his earnings to his church - and other charities - than anyone you will find, anywhere. Oh yeah - he doesn't take a salary from Lakewood, nor does his wife Victoria.

Have at it!

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That’s not the point. Ee can use this same logic to defend child molesters in the Catholic Church, the charity of Bill Cosby. The great charity efforts and awareness of Lance Armstrong who has done so much for cancer research. Poor lance, he was demonize by buffoons in the sports media.



Exactly what untoward behavior by Joel do you think I'm defending? I'm saying there isn't any untoward behavior to defend. The video is piffle, posted by a gossip monger.




Ok I’m too harsh on Joel I give you that. I tend to lump televangelist together and shouldn’t do that.
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Reply #17 posted 10/01/18 4:35am

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JoeyC said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Joel Osteen is scum and a charlatan and self-worshiper.


Explanation please.

he is a bad man that is using his flock to get rich... he sees himself as god like. there are many more like him... TJ Jakes... Jerry Falwell... Pat Robertson

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Perhaps I’m a little too harsh on Joel and am lumping him in with others because I’ve known these characters on a personal basis. I’ve seen what the parishioners don’t see. And in some ways it has numbed and jaded me to things in the human condition. Bleh*



I get it.

I know Joel and his family on a personal basis; otherwise, I'd keep silent on this thread.

I suspect my friend SuperFurryAnimal knows this and just wanted to get me to name-drop, LOL.

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Reply #20 posted 10/01/18 6:19am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

JoeyC said:


Explanation please.

he is a bad man that is using his flock to get rich... he sees himself as god like. there are many more like him... TJ Jakes... Jerry Falwell... Pat Robertson

... Trump

2013 Obama & Castro - "and barack has once again bowed down to a despot"
2018 Trump & Kim - "and it is happening now! after nearly 65 years and 11 presidents"
biggest fucking hypocrite around LOL only in da forum...
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OnlyNDaUsa said:

JoeyC said:


Explanation please.

he is a bad man that is using his flock to get rich... he sees himself as god like. there are many more like him... TJ Jakes... Jerry Falwell... Pat Robertson



falloff

Well, OK - there you go. You know what this means, right? Now, you cannot ever criticize someone questioning the character of someone you support whom they've never met.

Enjoy!

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Reply #22 posted 10/01/18 6:39am

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Sure he can. Nobody ever let a little things like consistency or hypocrisy or proof stop them in this forum. Why should we start now?



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We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
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Reply #23 posted 10/01/18 6:50am

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RodeoSchro said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Perhaps I’m a little too harsh on Joel and am lumping him in with others because I’ve known these characters on a personal basis. I’ve seen what the parishioners don’t see. And in some ways it has numbed and jaded me to things in the human condition. Bleh*



I get it.

I know Joel and his family on a personal basis; otherwise, I'd keep silent on this thread.

I suspect my friend SuperFurryAnimal knows this and just wanted to get me to name-drop, LOL.

I play the character of SuperFurryAnimal a conspiracy theorist that is like Dale Gribble. Not once have I ever bought Alex Jones products or donated to Infowars. For myself, the show is entertainment and I have various personalities trapped inside, one of a right-wing conspiracy theorist. These are alter egos. I may create one of SuperPreacher for MegaChurches. This is research. Con is subjective.

I think we can all collectively say.
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djThunderfunk said:

Sure he can. Nobody ever let a little things like consistency or hypocrisy or proof stop them in this forum. Why should we start now?



[Edited 10/1/18 6:40am]

I think we can all collectively say.
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SuperFurryAnimal said:

RodeoSchro said:



I get it.

I know Joel and his family on a personal basis; otherwise, I'd keep silent on this thread.

I suspect my friend SuperFurryAnimal knows this and just wanted to get me to name-drop, LOL.

I play the character of SuperFurryAnimal a conspiracy theorist that is like Dale Gribble. Not once have I ever bought Alex Jones products or donated to Infowars. For myself, the show is entertainment and I have various personalities trapped inside, one of a right-wing conspiracy theorist. These are alter egos. I may create one of SuperPreacher for MegaChurches. This is research. Con is subjective.



I was talking to a friend of mine - a guy who owns the most successful business in Houston. He agreed with me and my other friends (an astronaut; a billionaire; and the most successful attorney in Texas) that Joel is a good guy. But we all decided that we needed another opinion, so we called one of the top three politicians in the city, and s/he confirmed our feelings about Joel.

I know that's not the exact type of name-dropping you like best, but it's all I can do considering various Non-Disclosure agreements that exist.

Trust me!

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Reply #26 posted 10/01/18 7:20am

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All I need is God. I have no need for Osteen or other mega preachers.

I think we can all collectively say.
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RodeoSchro said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

I play the character of SuperFurryAnimal a conspiracy theorist that is like Dale Gribble. Not once have I ever bought Alex Jones products or donated to Infowars. For myself, the show is entertainment and I have various personalities trapped inside, one of a right-wing conspiracy theorist. These are alter egos. I may create one of SuperPreacher for MegaChurches. This is research. Con is subjective.



I was talking to a friend of mine - a guy who owns the most successful business in Houston. He agreed with me and my other friends (an astronaut; a billionaire; and the most successful attorney in Texas) that Joel is a good guy. But we all decided that we needed another opinion, so we called one of the top three politicians in the city, and s/he confirmed our feelings about Joel.

I know that's not the exact type of name-dropping you like best, but it's all I can do considering various Non-Disclosure agreements that exist.

Trust me!

I do have an interest in how he connects with his congregation and makes money. May have a group infiltrate the church and document what they are doing. I don't have any conspiracy theories.

I think we can all collectively say.
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Reply #28 posted 10/01/18 7:40am

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RodeoSchro said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

he is a bad man that is using his flock to get rich... he sees himself as god like. there are many more like him... TJ Jakes... Jerry Falwell... Pat Robertson



falloff

Well, OK - there you go. You know what this means, right? Now, you cannot ever criticize someone questioning the character of someone you support whom they've never met.

Enjoy!

FAIL. cause rules Only makes do NOT apply to Only himself. cause he's the typical phoney do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do-right-wing-hypocrite. nice try though

2013 Obama & Castro - "and barack has once again bowed down to a despot"
2018 Trump & Kim - "and it is happening now! after nearly 65 years and 11 presidents"
biggest fucking hypocrite around LOL only in da forum...
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SuperFurryAnimal said:

RodeoSchro said:



I was talking to a friend of mine - a guy who owns the most successful business in Houston. He agreed with me and my other friends (an astronaut; a billionaire; and the most successful attorney in Texas) that Joel is a good guy. But we all decided that we needed another opinion, so we called one of the top three politicians in the city, and s/he confirmed our feelings about Joel.

I know that's not the exact type of name-dropping you like best, but it's all I can do considering various Non-Disclosure agreements that exist.

Trust me!

I do have an interest in how he connects with his congregation and makes money. May have a group infiltrate the church and document what they are doing. I don't have any conspiracy theories.



Ah HA! My friend, I see that you missed an incredibly important point. One that I think will completely change your perception of my pastor. It is this:

Neither Joel Osteen nor Victoria Osteen takes a salary from Lakewood Church; in fact, they haven't taken a dime from Lakewood for more than 15 years now. Not only that, they are the biggest givers to Lakewood. They tithe more money to the church than even the two or three billionaires who attend Lakewood tithe.

So if you think he is "making money from his congregation", then as you can see you are mistaken.

Joel and Victoria's income comes from two sources: (1) Joel's book sales (which comprise the vast majority of his income and no wonder, since each of his books sells millions of copies around the world); and (2) a salary from their personally-owned and personally-funded Night of Hope events.

BTW, tickets to the Night of Hope events are always $15 each. Joel could charge much more that and sell out the arena but he doesn't - and never will.

Can I be your infiltration group? I'm already on the inside, and you know you can trust me!

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