That's the dying breath of late-stage capitalism for you.

jaawwnn said:

That's the dying breath of late-stage capitalism for you.

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Socialism will be tried but then they will run out of someone else's money.

And kaboom!

TweetyV6 said:

On "The View" today, Sunny Hostin described an incident that occurred to her on July 4th at a beach house her and her friends were staying at, when a group of White youths passed by saying they were "patriots" and Sunyy and her friends were "n******s".... Among her friends in the house was an Ivy League educated lawyer....Isn't America great ??

2elijah said:

TweetyV6 said:

Oh and....

The hate crime data are being collected since 1990.

Earliest data available online are from 1996.

Then:
10,706 incidents of which were anti black: 4,469 (41,7%)

https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/1996

20 years later:
7,321 incidents of which were anti black: 2,122 (29,0%)

https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2016/tables/table-1

"More and more", eh?

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You do know that most of those hate crimes are not reported right? What you choose to not acknowledge is thatbtrump’s open, racist rhetoric has contributed to racists coming out in the open with their racism and the reason many of those incidents are making the news, and reported. The racists have always been here, but trump’s presidency has brought msnynout in the open displaying their ignorance and stupidity. A bunch of insecure people who fear and are jealous of any economic progress of the Black and Briwn populationin America. If they had an confidence in themselves, they wouldn’t display such ignorance and lack of self-esteem over those from different racial groups. These racist attacks on many people of color is nothing new in America. It stems from America’s racist history and the system of racism America is built and on. People of color are not responsible for white rscists’ low self esteem and lack of self confidence.

So true....most racial incidents that happened to me involved people who had less education and money than me or my family and friends...

2elijah said:

TweetyV6 said:

Oh and....

The hate crime data are being collected since 1990.

Earliest data available online are from 1996.

Then:
10,706 incidents of which were anti black: 4,469 (41,7%)

https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/1996

20 years later:
7,321 incidents of which were anti black: 2,122 (29,0%)

https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2016/tables/table-1

"More and more", eh?

[Edited 7/9/18 4:27am]

a) You do know that most of those hate crimes are not reported right? b) What you choose to not acknowledge is thatbtrump’s open, racist rhetoric has contributed to racists coming out in the open with their racism and the reason many of those incidents are making the news, and reported.

a) Most probably, yes.
b) without data, that's nothing more then a feeling.

And my point is not that there aren't racist idiots running around.
I only objected against the thread title. Data from your federal government show different.
Its 'headlines' like these which play a substential role in polarizing society.

jjhunsecker said:

On "The View" today, Sunny Hostin described an incident that occurred to her on July 4th at a beach house her and her friends were staying at, when a group of White youths passed by saying they were "patriots" and Sunyy and her friends were "n******s".... Among her friends in the house was an Ivy League educated lawyer....Isn't America great ??

WOW. The data just keeps piling up.

TweetyV6 said:

2elijah said:

TweetyV6 said: a) You do know that most of those hate crimes are not reported right? b) What you choose to not acknowledge is thatbtrump’s open, racist rhetoric has contributed to racists coming out in the open with their racism and the reason many of those incidents are making the news, and reported.

a) Most probably, yes.
b) without data, that's nothing more then a feeling.

And my point is not that there aren't racist idiots running around.
I only objected against the thread title. Data from your federal government show different.
Its 'headlines' like these which play a substential role in polarizing society.

What's "polarized society" is a President who has a long history of racial animus making statements (and actions) which display that animus _...which has enboldened many others to air their racist views. It may be a "feeling", but many of us have experienced these events personally , or know people who have

jjhunsecker said:

TweetyV6 said:

a) Most probably, yes.
b) without data, that's nothing more then a feeling.

And my point is not that there aren't racist idiots running around.
I only objected against the thread title. Data from your federal government show different.
Its 'headlines' like these which play a substential role in polarizing society.

What's "polarized society" is a President who has a long history of racial animus making statements (and actions) which display that animus _...which has enboldened many others to air their racist views. It may be a "feeling", but many of us have experienced these events personally , or know people who have

All you have to do is hold your nose and listen to 30 seconds of one of his bat shit crazy, racist, disgusting nazi rallies to get an idea why this society is so polarized.

Ya gotta wonder about ANYONE who continues to doubt this is happening. And those who think we should stop talking about it, for whatever reason.

poppys said:

Ya gotta wonder about ANYONE who continues to doubt this is happening. And those who think we should stop talking about it, for whatever reason.

I don't have 2 wonder....they are full of shit.

Plain and simple.

poppys said:

Ya gotta wonder about ANYONE who continues to doubt this is happening. And those who think we should stop talking about it, for whatever reason.

Or worse, suggesting that we not stand up against his horrific policies by protesting via any civil means possible.

udo said:

jaawwnn said:

udo said:

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Socialism will be tried but then they will run out of someone else's money.

And kaboom!

Lol sure, nice one.

Trump bankrupted an entire city (Atlantic) FULL of casino money. Then moved on to the US national coffers - and Russia pockets. We are miles past that academic argument.

Sonny Hoskins of the View had her racial attack:

https://www.alternet.org/...-party-our

This is our country? Blacks built America, peckerwoods.

2freaky4church1 said:

Sonny Hoskins of the View had her racial attack:

https://www.alternet.org/...-party-our

This is our country? Blacks built America, peckerwoods.

Her group should have gone after those rednecks, got nose to nose with them, and said, "you see a n****r here, whip his ass!"

2freaky4church1 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

jaawwnn said:

udo said:

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Socialism will be tried but then they will run out of someone else's money.

And kaboom!

Lol sure, nice one.

Sure. Hell yes.
And when they run out of someone else's money, they just collect more.
That's why I pay 56% (!!) income tax over the majority of my salary.

To fund left wing hobbies and 'support' those who are to lazy to work.

TweetyV6 said:

That's why I pay 56% (!!) income tax over the majority of my salary.

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56% starting from 100K? More?

In the Netherlands it is like this:

Four levels (schijf).

We have some socialism here but still they do not take very good care of things like state pensions, private pensions, unemployment benefits, etc. It is supposedly the best pension system in the world yet for a few years they were not able to index the pensions to grow with inflation.

But we've not descended to the Illinois level yet.

Things like that are symptoms.

It is a system, a country, that is unable to provide for the people.

And a system that throws propaganda onto the people so that it appears reasonable to do things like they are done. (military industrial complex, justice, politics, etc, etc)

USSA needs to get rid of the money in politics.

USSA needs to get rid of the foreign influence in politics.

USSA needs to get rid of theirinfluence in foreign politics.

Then it might be a slightly better place.

We can't prevent racism. What do you guys want, purity? We might as well talk like this after my thread on chomsky.

2freaky4church1 said:

We can't prevent racism. What do you guys want, purity? We might as well talk like this after my thread on chomsky.

Which one? You've started close to a dozen on just the first 2 pages of google search. I'm not against Chomsky, after all he did say hold your nose and vote for HRC. That was good advice.

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lame

TweetyV6 said:

jaawwnn said:

udo said: Lol sure, nice one.

Sure. Hell yes.
And when they run out of someone else's money, they just collect more.
That's why I pay 56% (!!) income tax over the majority of my salary.

To fund left wing hobbies and 'support' those who are to lazy to work.

i'm sorry to hear you think so little of your fellow humans. I'd pay 90% tax if I knew it was being used well. I'm a part of society, I pay my part.

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Business Insider - today

Papa John's (stock) drops after report alleges chairman used racial slur

...Wednesday a report that Chairman, founder and former CEO John Schnatter used a racial slur on a conference call

** Forbes reported https://www.forbes.com/si...018/07/11/papa-johns-founder-john-schnatter-allegedly-used-n-word-on-conference-call/#1d257bb94cfc that Schnatter used the offensive term for black people on a call with a marketing agency aimed at preventing future public-relations crises

** According to the report, Schnatter complained that in the past, "Colonel Sanders" used the racist term without facing a public backlash

** Schnatter stepped down as CEO of PZZA in January after he came under fire for blaming soft pizza sales on the National Football League's handling of national anthem protests by players

** In a statement, PZZA said: "Papa John's condemns racism and any insensitive language, no matter the situation or setting. ... We take great pride in the diversity of the Papa John's family, though diversity and inclusion is an area we will continue to strive to do better."

jaawwnn said:

Papa John's founder John Schnatter resigns as chairman of company's board after apologizing for racial slur

Finally!

Scary, because I have no idea how we stop it. You cannot make people not be bigots. Capitalist alienation plays a big part but who can say that these days?

Does it ever end ???

https://www.huffingtonpos...c958f7cf1e

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